If you publicly document your crimes on the internet, you deal with the consequences. We live in a society full of dummies
@mrrockets32
Жыл бұрын
Rap snitches, telling all their business Sit in the court and be their own star witness - MF DOOM
@einhauchvontull5206
Жыл бұрын
@@mrrockets32 fax
@valeriagude903
Жыл бұрын
I couldn’t agree with you more💯💯
@mrrockets32
Жыл бұрын
If wasn’t for ak hander being there he would went off that’s not the real ak take the mask off akademiks
@finessewop
Жыл бұрын
I wonder what dude has to say to CPD who woke up the death of KI by unnecessarily releasing that king von was her killer 😴 these dudes ain’t doing nothing but reporting on public information the reason WE mad is because it’s not US profiting from the media
@pamela8260649
Жыл бұрын
I’m confused on why they’re blaming Ross when he’s literally taking the info they put out themselves
@mrrockets32
Жыл бұрын
Rap snitches, telling all their business Sit in the court and be their own star witness -MF DOOM
@mrrockets32
Жыл бұрын
If wasn’t for ak hander being there he would went off that’s not the real ak take the mask off akademiks
@mrrockets32
Жыл бұрын
Why you think he only hops on twitch just so guys tip him money so he get drunk
@mrrockets32
Жыл бұрын
But they won’t talk about saycheesetv giving voices to gangster in Dallas tx he the reason mo3 died y’all love to talk about “ stop the violence” when they the ones causing it “this comment is reaching “ mane mo3 died on a fucking highway bro
@TalkingThrones
Жыл бұрын
They think he's soft and easy to push up on
@FranklinBurrus
Жыл бұрын
Dude puts together 3+ hour deep dives on the most specific situations. Homie really takes the time to understand and explain. You have to respect it.
@Redd.915
Жыл бұрын
ALREADY 💕💕💕
@darrylb9228
Жыл бұрын
The Dave dude mad cause he didn’t get those views and money from it. That’s what I’m thinking.
@IamLinLin
Жыл бұрын
The fact that Van and the other guy laughed when Trap Lore brought up Shoulda Duck and they laughed, solidifies everything Trap Lore was saying.
@montyjalloh7882
Жыл бұрын
felt exactly the same
@ajmartin6758
Жыл бұрын
What time line
@TJ-um8ce
Жыл бұрын
Precisely
@Frugal637
Жыл бұрын
They also laughed about the threats he received. They are ignorant and haters.
@mississippimudd6638
Жыл бұрын
You held your own against these fake woke clowns, Ross. I’m a black man and I’m ashamed of how Van & David never held black people in Chicago accountable for killing each other. All TLR is doing is reporting the news. Keeps reporting bro. You’re doing a great job
@rbunny7676
Жыл бұрын
Preach brother
@mindyourbusiness1811
Жыл бұрын
The prison system is holding them accountable why would some media personality do it?
@chillbest14
Жыл бұрын
Facts 💯
@dee5202
Жыл бұрын
Big facts, I’m a black man and I can acknowledge that we need to hold eachother in the black community accountable for nonsense while also understanding that we are in these famine and impoverished situations because of systematic oppression and late capitalism. Bottom line is the behavior exhibited by most gangstas these days is horrendous. Zero respect for the community, the elders, the youth, etc. And bragging about this behavior in music affects society in such a negative way. People need to know that it is not cool to do these things that these drill rappers are doing. Since when did it become cool to kill people?? Why have we normalized mocking the dead? We rap about killing each other and people think that won’t start to resonate into our day to day lives? It’s like we’re killing ourselves collectively
@hippievisions
Жыл бұрын
Facts
@oliverquach9614
Жыл бұрын
Literally the entire documentary was compiled from tweets, news and music. TLR has nothing to apologize for.
@josephchestang9942
Жыл бұрын
Exactly! Even the police records are public information.
@d.weez2239
Жыл бұрын
So true!!
@jasont8773
Жыл бұрын
Tweets is not a reliable source.. I can tweet I killed 50 people.. and I never hurt a soul.. Von never got convicted of no murder
@Zariyah_Nicole
Жыл бұрын
This is what I’ve been saying.
@stepintothelyte2307
Жыл бұрын
The thong is it's based on speculation, not proof
@AlbinYuup
Жыл бұрын
Thank god for akademiks coming in and setting shit straight cuz they were cornering Ross and playing the race card
@TJ-um8ce
Жыл бұрын
💯
@YeshuaAkbar7
Жыл бұрын
💯
@RequiemForYourDream940
Жыл бұрын
💯
@FREEZA_AKA_MR_COOLA
Жыл бұрын
That because white people didn’t get involved in this shit until social media and monetization came period.
@AndresD209
Жыл бұрын
Accountability is lost in this world. It's scary
@lomiles83
Жыл бұрын
This shit made me sooooo mad. Ross ain't the one, bro. The fact that he's even hearing these dudes out let's you kno where his heart's at. They acting like he went to the hood and earned everybody's trust to get these stories, then ran to the internet with tightly guarded hood secrets. Ross literally curated then narrated information that was already publicly available. It's so disgusting to see how my people will come together to defend a whole ass serial killer's legacy, but won't do shit to discourage the violence.
@bico1514
Жыл бұрын
NAH FR big respect to Ross I would've let my black ignorant self out and start wylin out
@devinbath7266
Жыл бұрын
Well said
@pennyproud1621
Жыл бұрын
Exactly
@sheskates6551
Жыл бұрын
💯💯💯
@louissmith3444
Жыл бұрын
It blows my mind they talk about everybody except for the people actually taking out people's loved ones
@spyd3y1
Жыл бұрын
I dunno how the doc was in bad taste when Von was literally talking about folks he murdered by himself everyday
@martinc8325
Жыл бұрын
Accountability and niggas go together like oil and water.
@RonnieMcNutt666
Жыл бұрын
u gn need 3 4 hands tryna count my bodies ☠☠☠☠☠☠☠☠☠☠☠☠☠☠☠☠☠☠☠☠
@jakebarnes3054
Жыл бұрын
They'd rather get angry at the white nerdy guy making a documentary about a murderer than sincerely reflect on how our culture glorifies murderers
@mrrockets32
Жыл бұрын
Rap snitches, telling all their business Sit in the court and be their own star witness -MF DOOM
@okloshbrokla8154
Жыл бұрын
Why are you here this is telling of trap lore ross audience racists gawkibg at black people
@kieshaholt2600
Жыл бұрын
As a girl from the Bronx who's healed a bit watching your stuff, I get a different narrative! keep going TLR. I love your documentaries!
@MsMimi581
Жыл бұрын
The lack of accountability is disgusting. He was a serial who told on himself. People who make excuses and want to shift the blame on others are the problem. That’s why the culture will never change.
@LizNeptune
Жыл бұрын
Right.. and most serial killers and mast shooters want the world to know of their crimes and infamy. Von would be happy about this documentary. He was a raging, malignant narcissist.
@JOSWAY787
Жыл бұрын
Famm it’s not a culture, it’s a cult. But the fact y’all wanna keep including all the violence and gang shit into “the culture” like it’s a part of black identity. Really it annoys me how dumb y’all are sometimes but y’all can’t help it anyway…
@piperchristeson3394
Жыл бұрын
It’s really sad that ppl can’t separate the music from the artist. We can’t excuse killings just cuz you like his music
@PotFastL-gg2ne
11 ай бұрын
what car is dave sitting in
@Bovice_Nicole
Жыл бұрын
Dave is what’s wrong wit the black community. Specifically the men. Y’all blame EVERYONE ELSE for choices YOU made
@ernestholloway9436
Жыл бұрын
I remember when kids could go out and play. There not a real parent alive that would let there kids go out and play l. I guess it's trap lore ross is to blame
@4huggies
Жыл бұрын
100% - Dave saying Ross needs to consider that his documentary is causing people to go out and shoot someone else is complete BS. There’s going to be many triggers the victims of this violence are going to have to face. If this documentary makes them commit another crime, something else would have done the same. These killers need to be accountable for their actions. Which I think most do. Dave is making it seem like they are not responsible because Ross was the one that could be blamed for reminding them.
@7414Fasure
Жыл бұрын
No specifically it's the black woman just look at u tryna down play yo accountability
@darnellthomas8155
Жыл бұрын
Dave is a guy whose making money off the death of black men in a place he's not even from. Also there organizations and activist in every black city whose fighting against the violence and these niggaz are not giving them any attention.
@abovetherim8000
Жыл бұрын
Facts
@shay0912
Жыл бұрын
The amount of patience that Ross displays👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾
@NKim-gj9vk
Жыл бұрын
These grown men are so embarrassing and I’m convinced they hate their own. If you justify/defend a serial killer that only targeted men that look like you…seek help 😢
@aalynnodell9809
Жыл бұрын
I mean the documentary shed light on them killing their own everyday so there's no convincing they hate their own. They do. It's a shame too because a lot of them are extremely talented and waste that talent on being institutionalized.
@jezebulls
Жыл бұрын
I don't have the will to get through this nonsense. Dude is gatekeeping songs, lyrics, artists, info, and/or how they're supposed to be perceived as if he speaks for everyone on the streets. It's INSANE how he's against Ross simply putting all this information that is publicaly available into a neat package in a 3 hour documentary, but disregards the fact that Von was basically incriminating himself with tweets everyday. Everyone is entitled to their own opinion. If he doesn't like the video, he doesn't have to watch it, but anyone can criticize it. It's just weird how he feels like he has the authority to tell people how things should be perceived instead of letting people have their own opinions.
@TJ-um8ce
Жыл бұрын
💯💯💯
@Santamuerte13
Жыл бұрын
Literally…….
@darrylb9228
Жыл бұрын
The Dave dude just mad cause he didn’t get them views Ross got. The Dave dude is the problem. Making excuses for all the negative shit that the rappers do 🤦🏾♂️
@luckybeauty2193
Жыл бұрын
When Dave said "...when Von tweeted that he's going to catch a body tnite, that could have meant he was going to link a girl..." 😂😂😂😂😂😂
@qmakesithappen
Жыл бұрын
As a black man born and raised in Chicago I’m with you on this Ross. Nobody goes this far JUST for financial gain. There’s genuine passion in your work. I’ll also add that while the people you cover were dealt a bad hand in some cases, in most cases they have chance after chance to do different and change their ways but they don’t. A few examples are Chief Keef and Lil Bibby. Waka is the best example in terms of rappers changing for the better. Accountability is a must amongst these grown men acting like victims 💯
@rapwojnarowski4629
Жыл бұрын
You’re a legend lord … this the one
@rickyjackson1104
Жыл бұрын
Facts bro 💯 if he was just giving his personal opinion then that's different, but he actually looking into it to see if this is really happening and it shocked him to see the info that's out there on it!! And someone should tell Dave the fedz will sit on you for years and have what they need to pick you up 🤷 why they do I don't know, but I think it's too get more people are a bigger target 🎯
@M2xim
Жыл бұрын
Preach! Can't blame the universe if you ain't even trying.🙏
@quadoe818
Жыл бұрын
Yall hate your ppl so much - you jump on the culture vultures side for reigniting flames
@louissmith3444
Жыл бұрын
well said
@alexprovence9379
Жыл бұрын
This will never stop happening because of this. They will never put the blame on the people that are actually committing the crime
@pistolpete8231
Жыл бұрын
Personal responsibility is like a kryptonite to neegaz, that's a fact
@Frugal637
Жыл бұрын
That would be too easy.
@thabothema6890
Жыл бұрын
Big Ups to Akademics for this. I think discussion around whatever topic breeds understanding, understanding breeds respect. Even when you disagree on something, but when you understand each others backgrounds we build positively from that
@beachavebaby
Жыл бұрын
it’s okay for them dudes who’s in the streets to make songs , tweet , go on live and say what they do and spread that energy but it’s a problem when a person who isn’t from there begins to speak on it an spread it online …. HOW DOES THAT EVEN MAKE SENSE TO THESE CHICAGO DUDES ? 😂 Dave came on here and said a whole bunch of nothing 😂
@FREEZA_AKA_MR_COOLA
Жыл бұрын
So if you knew killers around you are you going to report it?
@neeneebaby
Жыл бұрын
Dave is the reason this shit is still going on his excuses are making me sick to my stomach and the sad part is he’s a grown man and he’s serious asf
@SheriBear1
Жыл бұрын
👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾 I started cringing 30 seconds into his argument. I just couldn’t understand how a grown man can be so illogical in his thoughts and not know it😳.
@catchingdirtysouthjersey4581
Жыл бұрын
He a goofy hater.
@dee5202
Жыл бұрын
The serious af part is what’s sad but funny af lmaaao. Cuz like are you hearing yourself
@kjrobinson4105
Жыл бұрын
Yea this dude ignorant as fuck…
@bico1514
Жыл бұрын
Fr he really made me sick like I have respect for von cause he was raised in a war zone so obviously we can't blame how he was. It's just unfortunate his fame was cut short and didn't have that opportunity to mentality and spirituality grow like durk did... ehh
@Ro6ns
Жыл бұрын
“We’re gonna blame you cause we can’t control our urge to kill eachother” is what I’m getting first 5 mins of Dave talking
@PAGoldenglovechamp06
Жыл бұрын
White supremacisit like yourself tend to play dumb but you definitely aren’t playing
@NostalgiaVomitBootlegs
Жыл бұрын
EXACTLY. He sound stupid
@jluchette
Жыл бұрын
The vibe I’m getting is “TLR is a more popular YTer than me, so I’m going to call him out to increase my own views.” Or I may be reading too much into it. If that’s the case, then this Dave person is astonishingly stupid.
@blackqueen5201
Жыл бұрын
Facts he's such a damn🤡
@fatherbewithme
Жыл бұрын
In a way you're correct but unfortunately there's too much truth in some of the things he's saying about Gasoline being added to old beefs and ignorant black ppl from Chicago getting mad at each other again & shooting & killing
@coss1
Жыл бұрын
This was a very productive conversation and I appreciate all four for participating. Hiphop needs to have more conversations like this. We need to truly analyze how the media, the rappers, and social media contribute to the cycles of violence in our neighborhoods.
@RLeezyDeezy
Жыл бұрын
I'm glad to see so many people agreeing with Ross. He literally got all his info from public knowledge and was just sharing and spreading this knowledge that he is actively engaged in and actually cares. He has never in any of his videos spread any misinformation or biased opinion. Just simply sharing his love and respect for the story of rappers and their dangerous life they lead.
@BlackLusterDragon9
Жыл бұрын
im tired of people saying he's a culture vulture, he is the only hip hop historian that doesnt cause people to beef or kill each other, he deserves his flowers
@jezebulls
Жыл бұрын
It's weird cuz he's talking like he's the culture or has the authority to approve who can or cannot talk about things that don't even belong to him.
@FREEZA_AKA_MR_COOLA
Жыл бұрын
Why is a white boy from uk worried about people getting killed in the states
@piperchristeson3394
Жыл бұрын
@@jezebullshow does he talk like he is the culture?
@ericlucas1
11 ай бұрын
@@piperchristeson3394notice how he didn't answer you?
@PotFastL-gg2ne
11 ай бұрын
what car is dave sitting in
@WGESTAXKS
Жыл бұрын
“Unless von told you out his mouth” he literally did
@daddycrimson
Жыл бұрын
lmfaoooooo and he aint stop telling us up until he kicked it smh
@jettfitceo
Жыл бұрын
Keep Trappin Ross…u da mvp and your work is award worthy.
@Thevirtuouswoman501
Жыл бұрын
Ross, you handled yourself well. 👏🏾👏🏾
@g-holy
Жыл бұрын
Black ppl HAVE to STOP this. They blame ANYBODY for the violence except the niggas who doin it🤦🏾♂️
@LordHaveMurcielago
Жыл бұрын
The black community is matriarchal which means it is lead and ran by its women. Which means the identity adopted by the majority of the young men and young women in the community is feminine in its nature. Women are never capable of admitting when they are wrong and neither is the black community. The blame is always shifted and that’s the problem!
@deidrajames4258
Жыл бұрын
Facts
@pennyproud1621
Жыл бұрын
Yeah the shh is sick. They got all this smoke for a reporter but none for the guys doing it. I never hear none these guys tell them hey could you make more positive music, hey could you stop killing each other. Nothing crickets. They some weirdos.
@Humhem88
4 ай бұрын
Facts bro. Praying for a change in mentality
@whatstheword6271
Жыл бұрын
Mind you, Van Lathan just wrapped a season of a show about "hip hop murders." All of these people profit from death, they just want to move the goalpost with Trap Lore Ross
@ayeare101
Жыл бұрын
He is YT and not from our culture. Profiting from us just like the YT man do. I’m not surprised
@sheskates6551
Жыл бұрын
@@ayeare101 he is doing what a capitalist does why are black men continuing to target each rather rather then obtaining some capital. Carry some of the best talents but fails to capitalize on it every damn time wake up
@peterheinzo515
Жыл бұрын
lol you do realize its racist when you say hes not allowed to talk about music/culture because of his skin colour
@michelledozier4951
Жыл бұрын
If Case and Point was a person.
@sagba9473
Жыл бұрын
@@ayeare101oh well then y’all need to be mad at every white journalist who report it y’all more mad at TLR then the people committing the crimes baffles me😂
@BLee09
Жыл бұрын
Man. It's sad that we're really gonna sit here and blame a KZitemr for ANY gang violence as if this type of shit hasn't been going on since before we even had the internet.
@kanedasrifle
Жыл бұрын
If a faceless major media conglomerate /corporation like Amazon or Netflix had created TLR's Von documentary , everybody would be throwing at it the critical acclaim it deserves , KZitem as a platform & it's (talented) creators deserve props not abuse , or else we will have no alternative to the said corporate productions & it's revisionist history. The documentary was captivating & the story truly 'crazy'.
@RequiemForYourDream940
Жыл бұрын
Great comment. Face Lift is an all time classic album also btw 🤘💯 Rip Layne Thomas Staley
@kanedasrifle
Жыл бұрын
@@RequiemForYourDream940 Thanks man , any Alice fan i consider a brother. Inner peace.
@theol1618
Жыл бұрын
In my opinion TLR does responsible work. He never simply glorifies killings. That's a real surface level account of what he does. He often details the circumstances, the environment, the disparity of the community and all that. Sometimes self accountability gotta be taken.
@clarkkent52
Жыл бұрын
sick of whyte peeps who cant make it in their culture come into a place where black people created and all the sudden feel they got a right to talk ish...please take that same concern and go over to ur own community and preach to them ...trust whytes have over 500 years of evil fkery that you can address
@brucewilliams2561
Жыл бұрын
Just say you love us 🦝.
@toughflowers5088
Жыл бұрын
He does every single video, and his work can be on HBO, and Netflix, they need to stop blaming him and trying to make him stop, there are not a lot of good in-depth docs for free on YT, trying to take away our good quality content
@sliver7993
Жыл бұрын
@@brucewilliams2561 the way you just posted that is crazy.
@theol1618
Жыл бұрын
@toughflowers5088 definitely. Especially his last, I'd say 4 docs. They've all been done with care to take into account the circumstances surrounding the upbringing of individuals from and in these broken communities. He even gives a brief history of the gangs origins and how condition forced them to evolve into what they are today. If I could suggest anything it might be to include information on grassroot organizations built to help the communities he's reporting on so viewers can donate. Or a portion of the uncut patron video proceeds could go towards community efforts
@wayneb9253
Жыл бұрын
Let’s get one thing straight If no one ever accused von of a single thing in life Just through his own admissions he is linked to over 9 murders from his own mouth
@lethal3245
Жыл бұрын
They avoiding that main point
@Andemur
Жыл бұрын
You forgot about the 2014 murder. He was only found not guilty of 2017 because the witnesses refused to testify.
@SKPanda1915
Жыл бұрын
@@lethal3245 they want to shoot the messengers messenger lol
@mindyourbusiness1811
Жыл бұрын
you need proof to accuse and charge someone of a crime.
@RobinXlone
Жыл бұрын
being linked to murders dont make u a serial killer. and if u and 4 other people shoot at people every time are u really a serial killer? all 5 people are the killers tbh
@Jefe4x4
Жыл бұрын
He is making trap lore Ross sound like the most inspirational news! Congrats TLR
@x217xwebb
Жыл бұрын
The fact he blames Ross for people in the hood sliding on opps is fucking hilarious.
@Infamous1Hookz
Жыл бұрын
Trap Lord Ross literally goes striaght to the point. 💯. He's a realist and people aren't used to that period.
@womanspringishchild606
Жыл бұрын
Yes! People don’t want to take PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY for anything, these days. And EVERYONE is amazing when they die 😒 if KV was alive today, he’s be locked up.
@FREEZA_AKA_MR_COOLA
Жыл бұрын
If you wanna make documentaries at least go speak with the people you talking about
@mykelgatson5934
4 ай бұрын
@@FREEZA_AKA_MR_COOLAwhy? It’s not necessary.
@neverhating_63HREE
Жыл бұрын
Watchin trap defend his work is almost just as good as the actual video lol
@pennyproud1621
Жыл бұрын
Agreed
@Turbo-Drip
Жыл бұрын
FACTS
@LSDdreams808
Жыл бұрын
Trap lore ross is puts out alot of bangers he definitely deserves some respect for making these documentarys that takes alot of time to do.
@thegreathonourandprosper52
Жыл бұрын
Blame the police and vons mother for ignoring his tweets and actions.
@coreywilson7326
Жыл бұрын
That's his fault I mean his mother is part but not all
@KingEJayE
Жыл бұрын
TLR defended himself well. Its all about accountability
@jb33rd
Жыл бұрын
Accountability to who not you maybe the people in the situations but not you worry about yourself
@chrisjacobs9101
Жыл бұрын
@@jb33rdyou’re the reason the cycle keeps going it sucks that it takes a white dude to say hold your community accountable and you can’t stand it because he’s right
@bloodaonadeline8346
Жыл бұрын
once he started asking Ross for money I just rolled my eyes. All the info is publically available if anyone goes and kills someone Ross is not responsible for funeral expenses.
@Humhem88
4 ай бұрын
When he said maybe break some people off some bread 🥴🥴🥴🥴 disgusting bro … the real vulture
@ashleylwilliams4067
Жыл бұрын
Ross is definitely logical. Dave is definitely emotional. Dave place accountability where it belongs!!
@basedcentrist3056
Жыл бұрын
If Van is so concerned with TRLs lack of personal interviews, why don't they collaborate and do a documentary? TRLs narration/research and Vans interviews would be a really good mix
@TwoGunKidd
Жыл бұрын
Trap lore ross, you did nothing wrong. you just highlighted what was already published in public. I’m glad that this doc got viral because people need to wake up and see what this generation are evolving to, so that we can change our youth, to be great next generation hopefully
@PAGoldenglovechamp06
Жыл бұрын
Go shine his shoes you 🦝 @zz nigguh
@pennyproud1621
Жыл бұрын
That's not happening. All these street hood kids are the way they are because of failed parents. It's not the kids fault....no real guidance no accountability what you expect...
@Dray_3stacks
Жыл бұрын
@@pennyproud1621 your right but it has to change at some point or do we jus go on with life as it is til the end?
@bluntballoons7238
Жыл бұрын
Dude tryna hold Ross accountable for gang wars because of a KZitem video 😂😂😂 our people lost
@stevebrizzle
Жыл бұрын
This idea that somehow black people have a monopoly on the grief about the black genocide going on in Chicago and other cities is so misguided. I’m a white guy from England who’s been a hip hop fan all my life too and TLR’s videos evoke a strong feeling of empathy in me for the senseless loss of human life on all sides and I empathise because I’m a *fellow human*, not because of whatever the colour of my skin is. Also, TLR - please don’t go to Chicago any time soon. Wait until all this furore over the Von video has subsided. I think it’s admirable you are planning to interview some of the people involved in the stories you cover but I’m worried that some knucklehead will take a shot at you to get some clout and the fans and I don’t want to see that happen! Stay safe.
@ComptonCrypto
Жыл бұрын
For real. If I hear about a ton of people dying the very last thing I think about is what color their skin is. But hey man, unfortunately not everyone is like that and most Americans literally dont think. They just regurgitate shit they've seen and heard.
@johnroe4551
Жыл бұрын
@@ComptonCrypto Stfu none of you give af about these dudes. Lets be real you all looking for entertainment..
@MarvoloSalazar
Жыл бұрын
@@ComptonCrypto Aint that the truth
@jezebulls
Жыл бұрын
MY THOUGHTS Exactly. Dude is gatekeeping songs, lyrics, artists, info, and/or how they're supposed to be perceived as if he speaks for everyone on the streets. It's INSANE how he's against Ross simply putting all this information that is publicaly available into a neat package in a 3 hour documentary, but disregards the fact that Von was basically incriminating himself with tweets everyday. Everyone is entitled to their own opinion. If he doesn't like the video, he doesn't have to watch it, but anyone can criticize it. It's just weird how he feels like he has the authority to tell people how things should be perceived instead of letting people have their own opinions.
@rasta6713
Жыл бұрын
Who profited from Anne Frank’s diary? Who profited from the Holocaust? The victims. When the victims live and tell their story, it will completely differ from an outside journalist. Who would you rather hear the story from? A victim from a Jewish ghetto, or an American journalist with profit in mind? The victim is likely to share the story so other victims can listen, or people to really sympathize. This dude is profiting from gang stories that are completely inaccurate. If you base your stories off someone’s tweets instead of actual evidence, you’re bound to be called out for inconsistencies. But why do you think he wants to debate? Because HE ACTUALLY CARES FOR THE VICTIMS, OR BECAUSE OF HIS INCOME. The same way Von took advantage of the bad boy persona for income. I’m telling you, half of the stuff he said on the drakeo vs Inglewood was inaccurate.
@BJC-pk8cm
Жыл бұрын
The man literally ATE CEREAL ONLINE EVERYTIME HE KILLED SOMEONE. He was CERTAINLY A SERIAL KILLER. He had his rituals like the rest.
@onhots2235
Жыл бұрын
.... or it’s just something that he prefer . U people
@versatillion15
Жыл бұрын
There was only 3 instances of him eatin cereal.
@hild-demongoddess7498
Жыл бұрын
They are only mad cause Ross is white and hes profiting off of black men’s stupidity 🤣🤣
@gghomemaker3835
Жыл бұрын
Man what 😂😂😂😂
@Game-6
Жыл бұрын
@@versatillion15 yeah "only"
@JGRG07
Жыл бұрын
Ak and Ross are making too many good points lol if you want to kill someone over a documentary then you have other issues. Von was literally tweeting about murders and just because he beat the case means he didn't do it? "Caught a body, beat that body, catch some more" -King Von
@beast6343
Жыл бұрын
I’m damn near positive not a single soul is sliding with Ak or Ross coming out their speakers. Lol
@einhauchvontull5206
Жыл бұрын
Man King David is not brightest candle on the cake. It was Von who killed (allegedly) people, was tweeting about it, and rapping about it. So he published it. So saying TRL ist to blame for the harm is nonsense. He never killed someone. Thats why attacking him is only defending king von. Defending someone who boasts about his crimes. May Jesus be with us. And formost for those who are in dire need.
@dashyte412
Жыл бұрын
Lol the man ain't dumb at all. He said he a street dude, you're not gonna get any accountability or real conversation with street dudes about street shit
@wide-awake
Жыл бұрын
if he wanted to make the point that making detailed videos on gang violence inflames that violence, that's an argument that he can make (although i probably disagree with it). but when he comes on to deny reality and claim that we don't know that von even killed anyone it makes any kind of conversation impossible. a pointless exercise.
@bobsucks9647
Жыл бұрын
Yeah dude is a dummy, on king David
@NoCoastBENT
Жыл бұрын
it is what it is type shit
@hanielnasheed7189
Жыл бұрын
I don’t understand his logic at all!
@Shavars.Sanctuary
Жыл бұрын
Ross’s videos are actually a piece of art/ humanitarian justice. It’s surprising that they are so detailed and the production/ editing is so high level. From the arrangement to the writing. He does a better job reporting than the major media outlets. Like off this skill, I wouldn’t be surprised if he had channel 4, Netflix, MI5 or any investigative journaling sources, contacting him with job offers. It’s actually inspirational, he actually has a skill unlike many KZitemrs that have big channels.
@grimyGobIin
Жыл бұрын
Dude is a whole leech and culture vulture and the definition of 🤓☝️🤓☝️
@yo3rdtier128
Жыл бұрын
Guy, he’s snitching on people from far away in England. Digging up information and make videos keeping beefs going.. No news channel should even look his way. Ross is drama queen
@gamecrazyoo1
Жыл бұрын
Except he gets things wrongs and tries to structure real life situations into lessons to be learned . Cool when you not person he covering . I don’t have a problem with him doing what he does but to do a 3 hour documentary is kinda overkill. I get we wanna blame the rappers for being stupid but the thing about accountability is finding the role you play and correcting your part . My role as someone looking for content on the internet while I may stumble across it I try to parentally guide myself . I don’t need to indulge in a 3 hour documentary about a killer rapper . If I’m a rapper I wouldn’t speak on real life situations and families like my words have no power.
@jamesbennett5587
Жыл бұрын
@@yo3rdtier128 the only people keeping the beef going is the people involved in the beef if someone from a whole different country can keep the beef going the dudes in the beef needs get out they feelings
@Tashawn612
Жыл бұрын
#FACTS
@jmar5127
Жыл бұрын
I'm embarrassed by some of my peoples mindset. It almost seems like a joke they actually believe reporting on murders is more of a focus than the actual murderers. Smh 🤡
@aworte3266
Жыл бұрын
Its not instigating. I swear they blame anyone BUT the shooters.
@donsadler3257
Жыл бұрын
This is honestly ridiculous that they’re trying to put all this burden on Ross. None of their arguments have merit or any validity.
@dretheman123
Жыл бұрын
👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾
@supernova7848
Жыл бұрын
Absolutely
@MissSimone02
Жыл бұрын
Period. And then saying he needs to fly to Chicago to interview people, for what? They already put all the business on Twitter and IG. Do he should interview them just to hear them talk in circles? FOH
@MsMN7677
Жыл бұрын
Disagree! He lives there for sure and knows!!!
@bloodaonadeline8346
Жыл бұрын
@@MissSimone02 He made a decent point when he said he hasn’t talked to anyone. He could have asked for some interviews without flying to Chicago but I think it’s unlikely they would have agreed to an interview.
@kllaterall
Жыл бұрын
Crazy how Vons relatives and fans are denying things that Von said himself to make him look better
@Sapientia-in-senectute
Жыл бұрын
Because they don’t want the heat on themselves, von was doing that shi my himself or with some of his homies most of his relatives probably don’t want that smoke from vons past
@coltonholaway7902
Жыл бұрын
@@Sapientia-in-senectute no one wants the smoke that was brewing for von. He was ready for it but not many others would ever wana face it
@dewaynerobinson3278
Жыл бұрын
They mad somebody black didn’t make the documentary
@idkyolo988
Жыл бұрын
@@dewaynerobinson3278 nigga what💀
@mindyourbusiness1811
Жыл бұрын
Where in that video was there solid evidence of him doing anything? You think the police don’t look at social media and saw all that? You need evidence to charge and convict someone
@sweetasskandi
Жыл бұрын
Bodies would have been dropping regardless. I personally am grateful for the documentary as a person from across the pond and of colour. It has helped me to understand the struggles my brothers and sisters are enduring on the other side of the world. To know that these children were soo young and handed guns was extremely upsetting for me to see. As, I compared it to my family member of the same age. Tear were shed and the world really needs to get better. We all regardless of colour or creed. NEED to do BETTER for these kids. Love Vons music can,t lie very creative artist. However, he was what he was, whether we like it or not . He devised a higher sense of self and power from killing ....sociopathic traits I'd say.
@trealcity
Жыл бұрын
Lyrics get rappers convicted these days
@jahleelflecha
Жыл бұрын
Look at Dave’s face @1:02:49 when Ross mentions one of Vons victims. The fact that he smirked says everything.
@oliverquach9614
Жыл бұрын
There’s another moment at 1:03:56 where they laugh after Ross mentions Durk and ‘shoulda ducked’
@moneymantra7318
Жыл бұрын
@@oliverquach9614 right they are laughing like he did not have a point.
@EJflYboY
Жыл бұрын
Man point blank. We gotta learn to stop blaming everyone but ourselves. We gotta take responsibility, we gotta do better so the kids can do better. We gotta charge us then help change the system cause they still got us enslaved if you can’t tell
@SaltyJus10
Жыл бұрын
We need more people like you
@catchwreck928
Жыл бұрын
Thats sounds good until the whyte folks who run this country sees you as a threat, which if u bothered to study black history you would of understood why things never changed....but go on about us taking responsibility and blah blah blah. even tho THEY DONT EVER DO THAT, ALL THEY DO IS DESTROY AND NO ONE CARES
@Disco6ixco
Жыл бұрын
Niggas steady pointing the finger when we are the cause of most of our problems. Shit really is fuckin weak
@egocentricblack3278
Жыл бұрын
We? Last I checked I didn't murder someone and brag about it on Twitter. King von deserved to be in jail like the serial killer he was.
@malcador
Жыл бұрын
Yet another day of "we gotta do dis 😢 we gotta come together and 😢😢😢" voice all shaking and shit. Sobbing. 😒
@djfusionkotb
Жыл бұрын
“Nobody from Chicago would make these KZitem videos on Duck and Von cause it’s dangerous to speak about the streets” but they would rap song about it. The logic.
@terencehenry1094
Жыл бұрын
He mad TLR beat him to it or getting fame from the culture is all this is🙄
@staxmarley8259
Жыл бұрын
4 grown men having a civil conversation is commendable
@Marshmobilise
Жыл бұрын
Sad state of the world that this has become exceptional
@cchima9932
Жыл бұрын
3 grown men.
@duncanpenderhughes8865
Жыл бұрын
Talkin about nothin
@nkosistrainbullies5806
Жыл бұрын
This is not a compliment men should be able to express themselves
@lilspliffster88
Жыл бұрын
Dave acted like a child at some point
@TedyBrukshut
Жыл бұрын
The lack of accountability in the black community is astonishing (*from some people in the black community is a more thoughtful comment)
@enzigenes
Жыл бұрын
Very.
@TheThinkingMansTemplar
Жыл бұрын
Not at this point... Nothing surprised me anymore
@jluchette
Жыл бұрын
White man from a rural area here, no life experience to draw from. I DID study violence among various demographics of American youth while getting my Master’s in psych, and I’ve never seen any scientific evidence that suggests the black community lacks accountability more than other minority groups, or other demographics such as: ANY minority, low SES/underprivileged populations, etc…. But you can’t learn everything from college. So, please educate me: why are you saying the black community in particular “lacks accountability?” NOT trying to argue any point, I just wanna hear people’s reasoning so I can learn.
@ShaunKang69
Жыл бұрын
@@jluchette because the blame is always pushed to somewhere else, wither it be racism, sexism, the police, economic resources and etc. When the blatant truth is right in front of everyone's eyes. It's black gang violence!!! If we can't admit that this is the biggest problem then we are just lying to each other trying to pass the blame.
@TedyBrukshut
Жыл бұрын
@@jluchette honestly, this was a knee jerk reaction to this video specifically. When I really think about it, I guess I can’t really pin lack of accountability on the black community solely. Im black and maybe bc I’m around my community more than any other, my view is probably biased. A more accurate comment maybe would have been to say the guy from Chicago in the video doesn’t seem to be holding the right people accountable when it come to the violence in Chicago. If I remember right, he mentioned that traploreross had some responsibility behind the violence that commenced following his video being posted on king von. I think bc of who I am as a person, being someone who takes believes strongly in accountability for my own actions, when I hear people being blamed for the actions of others it makes me cringe. Hope this comment was insightful. And thanks for challenging me to think about the comment I made.
@ArrogantNinjaStudios
Жыл бұрын
Hey man, I just wanna say that you're not to blame for putting this stuff out there. I've been watching your shit for years now. I'm from the UK myself, I live in Canada now but like you, i've always been interested in what happens in the world of hip hop. I find your videos incredibly informative and a good example of 'what not do do'. Each of these types of videos are life lessons. They're almost like a deterrence for any rappers that want to get in to that type of life. Knowing your own life is on the line should be a stark reminder of why you shouldn't be running your mouth or getting online and chatting shit. Life's short, your videos highlight this immensely. I believe your videos are a prime example for people who are interested in what happens in places like Chicago, New York, Jacksonville, etc. I can't imagine how much work you put in to this. Every time I watch a video, I never get the vibe that you're doing this to snitch or get clout. It's informative, like Wikipedia or the news when they report on these types of situations. Thank you SO much for putting this out there and putting yourself out there like you do. Mad respect. But the most thing I'm glad about is that you're not from liverpool because god knows I wouldn't be able to watch your videos with that type of accent, mate. Keep up the good work.
@FREEZA_AKA_MR_COOLA
Жыл бұрын
Informative? The world knew about this shit long before Tlr 😂😂😂😂😂
@ArrogantNinjaStudios
Жыл бұрын
@@FREEZA_AKA_MR_COOLA Really, they did? Was there a platform where this was being highlighted or was as easily accessible as this? Show me.
@Dershomlvik
2 ай бұрын
To blame Ross for gang activity is wild
@valeriagude903
Жыл бұрын
All these people twisting themselves into pretzels defending someone that’s killed all those black folks are so delayed 🙄🙄🙄🙄
@abzda1700
Жыл бұрын
None of them black folks were law abiding citizens the body that Made von famous is literally a female assassin
@tomjornee2391
Жыл бұрын
Thank u
@raven717
Жыл бұрын
This is why I don’t fe sorry for these gang members that keep dropping. Let them get rid of each other so we won’t have these unaccountable idiots causing destruction in the community
@deidrajames4258
Жыл бұрын
And this is why the KKK is sitting back laughing, let them do it.
@SOULTHAGOD
Жыл бұрын
AK jumped in the call and immediately started givin David bars like he was a feature😂😂😂
@indiashante1560
Жыл бұрын
😂😂😂
@twshabangu2894
Жыл бұрын
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
@oliverquach9614
Жыл бұрын
It’s so tricky for Ross (and any non-black person, really) to engage in these debates. Potential land mines all over the place.
@bryanadunn4919
Жыл бұрын
I’ve watched several of your documentaries and I appreciate all the work you do!
@yungtwun
Жыл бұрын
Keep doing your thing TLR. Great documentary. You just compiled what was put out straight from the horse's mouth. Dave needs to learn what accountability means.
@MrCk1234567890
Жыл бұрын
Ross is the only adult in this debate
@YACHIHANNAH
Жыл бұрын
No he’s the only dog
@EdgarAlpO
Жыл бұрын
Homie said “talk to the people”, but he just gave us a perfect example earlier of the people not willing to talk when he kept falling back on questions about Von being a killer
@bigfu
Жыл бұрын
Go talk to them so they can either lie .. or tell you "you acting like the police" 🤦🏿♂️
@MissSimone02
Жыл бұрын
THANK YOU
@mordecaimcnasty
Жыл бұрын
Alota these street dudes are walking contradictions and it’s sad.
@OliverBooks
Жыл бұрын
This turned into a pretty good discourse. Way to bring many perspectives into the conversation and be open to the frustrations. I understand why maybe communities feel like you're an outsider profiting on their dead, but I also see the sincerity you're trying to bring to the table. It seems like you're trying to at least put some skin in the game. I think this is good shit tbh
@mgee1723
Жыл бұрын
Us black folks need to hold ourselves accountable
@mra2316
Жыл бұрын
It’s okay if the Killer himself reports his crime, but it’s not okay if his crimes get reported on….logic.
@fooliojones3319
Жыл бұрын
😅😅😅. Literally couldn't make this shit up if I was tripping off acid.
@rzwitdauncut
Жыл бұрын
thats the logic of the community. classic. i dare them to buck at abc 6 news like that💯😂🤣
@thegodnasr
Жыл бұрын
King Dave's perspective is he's madder at youtube videos than the gangbangers actually doing the murders in the community🤯
@zabadyah
Жыл бұрын
That means you don't understand the point.
@dlilwon
Жыл бұрын
@@zabadyah well say the point. Unless you don’t know neither 😅
@TJ-um8ce
Жыл бұрын
Lmao! This is essentially a shake-down 😂... they eluded to financial "compensation" several times as a way for Ross to basically get back in Chicago's good graces. They are trying to finesse him while simultaneously dodging *any* accountability (outside of blaming Ross) regarding the gang problems... what a talent.
@keyanddracaryskillua6187
Жыл бұрын
Thru thought they were going to bully him because he a white guy from England because he isn't in gangland or a serial killer.
@mirage5002
Жыл бұрын
ChicagoKingDavid a clown. You blaming TLR for what King Von's kids will see? Von didnt think of his kids when he was putting money up and all those tweets?
@valeriagude903
Жыл бұрын
Correct 💯🤦🏾♀️
@mac3176
Жыл бұрын
No way he thought about his kids before he started a fight with quando rondo I doubt it he just cared about his image.
@Whatmurdaaaaa
Жыл бұрын
David's perspective, unsolved murders aren't really murders coz nobody has been convicted 😂😂😂😂😂
@diddy2612
Жыл бұрын
Exactly, he sound stupid
@Ishbikes
Жыл бұрын
Hitler never got convicted for war crimes either so I guess he’s innocent according to this nigga
@ashleylwilliams4067
Жыл бұрын
Ross has mentally surpassed the both of them. Dave couldn’t catch it.
@keyanddracaryskillua6187
Жыл бұрын
TLR ate them up😊
@tftltv
Жыл бұрын
20min in and I can already say TRL got my Support. Keep documenting on the culture
@denzelwilliams6019
Жыл бұрын
No white man should report on our culture 🤦🏿♂️
@blackmcbain3145
Жыл бұрын
Respect to Ross. He's doing us all a service. Denial ain't going to help anyone.
@GameN3rdz
Жыл бұрын
It never does
@DirtyDDialect
10 ай бұрын
Ross is spot on, vloggers gonna vlog there argument although I understand holds no water\merit, keep doing your thing Ross ❤
@elronlavey5912
Жыл бұрын
So basically David is saying It’s okay for Durk, Von and Sosa to rap about real dirt being done in the city of Chicago because they’re real street dudes But if a “nerd” like Ross or a “goofy” like Akademics talks about what Durk, Von & Sosa rap about, then more violence will erupt in Chicago because kids are gonna slide just so they can be in the next Ross KZitem video This David dude makes no sense. He’s just mad Ross didn’t reach out to buy an interview from him
@littlegirlblue9829
Жыл бұрын
Exactly. They're trying to extort Ross!
@dvonnlynch1607
Жыл бұрын
Blaming the violence on youtube documentaries is some serious accountability dodging
@forestknowledge
Жыл бұрын
1:22:24 bro is a trained mediator! This is honestly such a powerful video! And DJ Akademiks spoke amazingly! This information is valuable and needs to be seen on the streets.
@Oscar.shaman
Жыл бұрын
Bro really tried to blame Trap Lore Ross for murders. Lmaooo bro that beef will never end you live in Chicago try to fix that shit. He’s not the cause of nothing. It BE your own people
@Blackreaper95
Жыл бұрын
Beef been going on since black folks moved to Chicago and somehow that's TLR's fault I don't understand either lol, our wider community is done for.
@justinlast2lastharder749
Жыл бұрын
@@Blackreaper95 Beef in Chicago has always been there, and always this Crazy. Even the Chicago Mafia were crazier and more brazen than elsewhere. Not more effective...but just more open with their shit. That criminal culture is continued by the gangs of today.
@mitchellbrown2450
Жыл бұрын
Niggas like him make black people look so weak. BLAME VON for his BS. Not the one talking about it
@BigO631
Жыл бұрын
If KZitem videos make you kill somebody you were a lost cause to begin with
@Anthony-wv9kd
Жыл бұрын
They blamed Ak too Chicago dudes just don’t like taking accountability
@g-holy
Жыл бұрын
So if 60 Minutes come do a Chiraq special, they responsible now? If Oprah do a video on it, she responsible? Is the News responsible? Stop it
@LordHaveMurcielago
Жыл бұрын
Funny thing, 60 Minutes Australia actually did a special on the murders in Chicago a few years ago.
@4huggies
Жыл бұрын
This was really difficult to watch because Dave continued to argue a point based on how journalism is causing old flames to reignite. That was not just a stretch, it was taking accountability away from those that are really responsible. At the end of the day all these people have the power in their hands to not commit the crime, the cycle ends when they decide to end it. Good on Ross and Akademiks to point out how the music that is directly mocking those who have died continues to be played and make rappers rich does not get the attention Ross is getting when all he is doing is shedding light and education to the topic.
@kjrobinson4105
Жыл бұрын
Exactly, this dudes argument makes no sense at all. Invalid
@Bmore3OG
Жыл бұрын
Well said
@LSDdreams808
Жыл бұрын
They need to put more respect on ross name he makes some incredible content.
@spyd3y1
Жыл бұрын
Ngl seeing some of y’all comments I understand why R. Kelly and OJ Simpson were living LOVELY before recently
@fastmoneygiant
Жыл бұрын
Explain👀
@spyd3y1
Жыл бұрын
@@fastmoneygiant because people like to chop ride for celebrities they like all the time. There could be overwhelming evidence but let that person catch a ball really good , make music or perform well, everyone be letting them rock. It took 3 WHOLE COURT CASES. To get Kells the fuck on outta here and we STILL got people’s capping for him just like niggas do for Von
@nhamer615
Жыл бұрын
I think he is getting the backlash cause he doesn’t really report on his own people. Let Von rest in peace.
@Beautifully_Chaotic3109
Жыл бұрын
Fuck von he has murdered so many black men but y’all be the first ones ready to protest…
@158Cypher
Ай бұрын
Dude has documentaries on UK gangs too. What are you talking about?
@hovdolla
Жыл бұрын
Keep doing your thing Trap, we appreciate you.
@erdngtn9942
Жыл бұрын
When an artist puts music and tweets, ig live, anything public, it's fair game. Anything else is rascist against those who discuss public events of any color.
@audiofeinz5754
Жыл бұрын
Thank you Ross you are a legend
@moneyguy1867
Жыл бұрын
Ross is the Boss
@mackdaddypeypey1
Жыл бұрын
It DEFINITELY wasn’t in bad taste. They just trying to pick on the skinny whyte dude 🤦🏾♂️🤦🏾♂️
@L.O.HLilKenny
Жыл бұрын
Pretty Much
@timmorisma4800
Жыл бұрын
@32:35 Trap More Ross started cooking here. He's right, we do need to ban instagram from allowing these gang members to have a platform. These social media platforms are a big part of this situation.
@quintonbrooks7536
Жыл бұрын
He's right every sense they add live on Instagram it's got crazy gang members talking non stop
@raginrasta9667
Жыл бұрын
If they wanna be mad,be mad at Vons camp. He gets killed and THEY talk about how savage he was. They got no get back AND they making the self defense case more possible. They mad at the wrong person
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