My only question is "Then why do we play the games and keep score?"
@MadHatterHerby
10 ай бұрын
What is a woman?
@ChadGrindstaff
10 ай бұрын
Why did Alabama have to win 12 games and SECC in a 5 sos for y’all to act like it didn’t happen?
@nicholaskrebs7815
10 ай бұрын
Fact is, if OSU was in FSU's shoes, he'd be bitching and moaning and they probably wouldn't have been left home to begin with.
@ajdback
10 ай бұрын
ABSOLUTELY!
@MadHatterHerby
10 ай бұрын
2nd fact is FSU is going to get exposed against UGA
@ajdback
10 ай бұрын
Really? Pay attention to the bowl games, they usually expose the SEC as being OVERATED.
@jamesmckenzie9529
10 ай бұрын
Look at that Top 25. SEC, SEC, SEC, B1G, B1G, B1G, Big 12, SEC, ACC, B1G, SEC. Add a G5 school and you've got your playoffs. Get used to this.
@kaii231
10 ай бұрын
Thank God top 12 get in next year. All this craziness will be a thing of the past. Best team wins.
@area.man.
10 ай бұрын
Then the arguments will be for seeding in the playoffs.
@kaii231
10 ай бұрын
@@area.man.Nah. All people want is a seat at the table.
@area.man.
10 ай бұрын
Just wait until they announce the top 4 seeds that get the first round bye.
@kaii231
10 ай бұрын
@@area.man. They'll be irritated but a long way from how they feel this year not being in the playoff at all
@area.man.
10 ай бұрын
@@kaii231 Well nothing has been or will be like this year, but the craziness will never go away
@tvpacspam9914
10 ай бұрын
Ok but how is Oregon better than Washington still after losing twice?
@williamdean1934
10 ай бұрын
Thinking UO>UW is a braindead take
@muerkier
10 ай бұрын
Oregon is not better than Washington. That was proven on the field not once but twice as you said. Anyone who says differently is Trolling.
@christopherbritt321
10 ай бұрын
@muerkier Washington is a typical PAC2 team who will be destroyed by Texas, so they are irrelevant!
@pierresoorden5975
10 ай бұрын
More impressive wins by far
@Salty-Doggy
10 ай бұрын
Before I start I think Washington is better but the argument is Washington only beat Oregon by 3 twice. Now look at their games where they played the same teams Oregon destroys lesser opponents while Washington played down to their competition.
@orangehoof
10 ай бұрын
If you can't stand the heat, OSU Herbie, find another kitchen. You get paid well. Criticism is part of the job. What's self-evident is that FSU did not lose to anybody. They also beat SEC teams Florida and LSU, which is more than either Georgia or Alabama did. AP finished with FSU 4th. Coaches finished with FSU 3rd. The three major conference undefeateds need to be included first and then choose your best one-loss team. It's really not that hard.
@zplapplap
10 ай бұрын
“The three major conference undefeateds need to be included first . . . . “ This is objectively false. They did not NEED to be included at all. It’s an at-large format given to a committee charged with subjectively choosing teams. Accordingly, they could be included first. They probably should be included first. They always had been included. But, a four-team playoff never contemplated automatic entry for power 5 undefeated conference champions. If the conferences wanted automatic inclusion, they would have built it into a different format.
@orangehoof
10 ай бұрын
@@zplapplap For credibility sake, they need to include major conference undefeateds. Is that easier for you to accept? If you want to be picky, the committee could just agree to any 4 damned teams they want to, right?
@zplapplap
10 ай бұрын
@@orangehoof With respect to the first of your two questions: they should, if credibility is the top line objective. As to the second question, this is what it appears, to me, that the Committee actually did: Its members agreed on four teams, published its selections, and provided post hoc rationalizations to the media to justify the choices that they made. This is what the CFP Playoff Selection Committee was empowered to do. I won’t miss this four team format.
@davidfloyd9134
10 ай бұрын
Look at the break down by conference
@nathanh9935
10 ай бұрын
SEC bias… Fans need to realize they are being entertained through the Alabama invitational for profit, not watching a playoff, the winner is merely the winner of the invitational, not the national champion. THERE WILL BE NO NATIONAL CHAMPION for the 2023 season. Don’t they always say, “Defense wins championships??” Oh, unless your QB 1 is injured. Yes, this is SEC bias in a year when the ACC beat the SEC 6 -4 and has more bowl eligible teams,11, than 9 bowl eligible for the Big12, Big10, or the WEAKER SEC. FSU beat #5 LSU on the road early, and Florida on the road w/ FSU's #2 QB. Bama did NOT do everything to win, by the FACT that they have one loss to Texas. FSU won their ACC Championship with a 3rd string QB by double digits. How does an undefeated ACC champion lose out to the 1 loss weaker SEC champion, who barely beat out Arkansas at home with Bamas 1st String QB, by merely 3 points, 1/3 of the margin of victory that FSU had beating a top 15 team while starting their 3rd string QB. CFP is officially an SEC proxy, co-owned with ESPN by Disney. CFP is an abbreviation for Corruption for Profit. Disgusting ruling, compared to the heart of a champion FSU displayed all year on the field. Results matter, put FSU in, and remove Alabama. Ohio State should be # 5, they lost to the current #1 Michigan. If not, Corruption for Profit is telling all of college football that the regular season is irrelevant without a payoff to them. If any playoff QB gets injured in practice, then FSU takes their place, somehow? What sense does that make, that clearly should never be a criteria for the playoffs. FSU maintained their rank, #4 (#3 when you realize Georgia didn’t earn it). CFP is legally liable for additional security on every QB in the playoff, their foolish decision has placed a bounty on every QB in the playoff between now and the first game. Without removing Alabama, this years invitational winner is disqualified due to CFP incompetence… call it the Alabama invitational because it most certainly is NOT a playoff. The talking heads don't feel bad for FSU, they are lining their pockets for being biased toward Bama and the SEC. Florida State Seminoles, the heart of a champion!!!
@DougShook-ny8xi
10 ай бұрын
I'm boycott ESPN
@chriskay1449
10 ай бұрын
LOL what? The committee literally used on injury of one player to disqualify an undefeated team from their rightful place. And by the way the committee once said they would NEVER hold an injury to one player against any team.
@CarolinaJackpot
10 ай бұрын
It’s literally in the playoff selection committee’s criteria list. Number four. I swear you people just make up things.
@chriskay1449
10 ай бұрын
@@CarolinaJackpotRead my post again. They had publicly stated "WE WILL NEVER HOLD AN INJURY AGAINST AN ENTIRE TEAM". It doesn' matter that it is in the criteria. They lied.You cannot say one thing and say "Nah, we are going to do it". Stick to your own words.
@CarolinaJackpot
10 ай бұрын
@@chriskay1449 when did they ever publicly state that?
@chriskay1449
10 ай бұрын
@@CarolinaJackpotThey have stated it on past poll reveal shows.
@davealmighty9638
10 ай бұрын
@@chriskay1449the committee has by laws. They HAVE to judge teams based on certain metrics, but can use other factors as well. Strength of schedule. FSU is ranked at #55. Bama is ranked a #5. Results against top 25 teams. Bama played 6 top 25 teams. FSU played 3. Conference championships. FSU beat #18, Bama beat #1. Results against common opponents, with no incentive to margin of victory. Bama dominated LSU thru the entire game. FSU struggled until the 4th quarter. Head to head matchups. They didnt play, so that doesnt matter. These are the rules all teams agreed to. The biggest factor is the strength of schedule. Every single SEC team is ranked higher than FSU in that metric. The ACC is just a weak conference. Bobby Bowden even admitted that FSU joined the ACC because it would be easier to win. Another factor that can be used are the odds in a potential matchup. If FSU played Michigan, Michigan would be a 16 point favorite. Michigan is only a 2 point favorite over Bama. Georgia is a 14 point favorite over FSU. FSU can wait until next year, when weak conferences will get their chance to win a championship.
@The-MC
10 ай бұрын
Right! I’ll never understand the logic of… We lost to this team, twice in this case, but we’re better than them. That’s really stupid to say
@thre3x
10 ай бұрын
It’s crazy how results are weighted so little now in College Football.
@RonnieMcDaniel-o5k
10 ай бұрын
They put Clemson in there a couple of times
@huntershinn9852
10 ай бұрын
Oregon is NOT better than Washington. The results on the field matter. Washington has beaten them at home, on the road, and on a neutral field the last 3 meetings. Case closed.
@donleonard4446
10 ай бұрын
7:56 Colorado? Over OU?
@JimBobson-r4y
10 ай бұрын
My phone ring is Kirk's crying.
@MadHatterHerby
10 ай бұрын
Mine is FSU fans
@edmundponichtera7195
10 ай бұрын
"Herbie" is one of the biggest reasons I no longer care about the NCAA. And before some smart ass says well you commented on this, the reason I even saw this is because it appeared on the right side of my screen when I was looking at something I am interested in.
@slingnasty9045
10 ай бұрын
ACC went 6-4 against the SEC. But somehow the SEC is better this year.
@paulmatthews463
10 ай бұрын
And Im guessing you think FSU would still be undefeated if they played and SEC schedule
@muerkier
10 ай бұрын
Yeah those games against the SEC cellar dwellers must have been tough. FSU has languished in the basement of the ACC for goodness sakes for the past decade. They have 1 good season (FINALLY) and all of a sudden they are somehow a great team now. Ummmm no. Not how it works. Consistent winning and season after season of Conference and National Championships is how you establish a reputation as a National Power. FSU has a LONG way to go.
@muerkier
10 ай бұрын
By the way, if you want to know why people that know college football and are not part of Hater Nation do not respect the ACC vs the SEC this would be why: The all-time record of the ACC against the SEC in NCAA Football is 184-341-10 This means that out of all the games played between the two conferences, the ACC has won 184 games, the SEC has won 341 games, and 10 games have ended in a tie. In bowl games, the ACC has a record of 30-52 against the SEC. You can't have a winning record against a bunch of cellar dwellers have a slight edge in wins then call yourself superior. It doesn't work that way.
@slingnasty9045
10 ай бұрын
@@muerkier I asked if you thought LSU was a cellar dweller they were ranked 5 when FSU destroyed them. That's also why I said this year. FSU beat every team put in front of them and yes that includes 2 SEC teams, what more can they do? I guess you forgot about K. Herbstreit saying in 2021 that a non=power 5 Cincinnati 13-0 should be in the playoffs regardless.
@muerkier
10 ай бұрын
@@slingnasty9045 LSU is mid-tier at best at the moment. What ever happened to early season wins not meaning much? Thats the nonsense I heard when Bama was toppling big names every year early in the season. bama has scheduled a solid opponent OOC game early every year for awhile now but all I ever saw was people disparaging those wins. Bama finally got bit this year with Texas. Now all of a sudden the early wins are very meaningful. Makes me want to vomit with all the Hater nonsense.
@NeganSmash420
10 ай бұрын
Missouri and Kentucky could beat FSU
@duhdoy08
10 ай бұрын
This is not a playoffs. It is an SEC sponsored tournament that claims to crown a champion. The AP Poll is the final word. Has been for nearly 80 years. Ignore the CFP and recognize it as a nice end of season tournament and nothing more. Declaring a national champion when there are over 150 D1 schools and they only play 8% of the field is ludicrous. They need to do a conference supremacy set of games where teams play like ranked teams from other conferences. Example: SEC W SEC 1 v B1G, 1 SEC 2 v ACC, 2 SEC 3 v PAC12, 3 SEC 4 v Big 12, 4 SEC 5 v B1G, 5 SEC 6 v ACC, 6 SEC 7 v PAC12, 7 Do that with all the conferences and where teams don't have match ups just pit them against someone else in the same 3 rank range if possible. The conference with the most wins is the best Conference. Also, flip for it but allow half of all the conferences games be campus home games sponsored by the Bowl Games. So like, the Fiesta Bowl at ASU, the Orange Bowl at FSU, etc. The End.
@pierresoorden5975
10 ай бұрын
JaguarGator9 tried to end this man's career
@88jaspersimmons
4 ай бұрын
There is absolutely no argument that Oregon is better than Washington. You simply don't lose twice to an inferior team. Stop it.
@Mark-zo4ys
10 ай бұрын
College playoffs are all about the money and bias of certain teams every year. Being undefeated is huge until you lose. Grave injustice to Fla. St. Shame on the selection committee.
@ChadGrindstaff
10 ай бұрын
Feel like people don’t know what deserving is. If you carry more weight in wins, how is that not a case to be made for most deserving? The two phrases “Best 4” and “most deserving” has college fans acting like NPCs.
@exthorn5539
10 ай бұрын
Kirk said what needed to be said, get over it FSU Fans!
@MadHatterHerby
10 ай бұрын
Cry baby Gen Z libs... embarrassing for FSU
@gardcorelegend
10 ай бұрын
Too bad the 12-team playoff didn't start this year, FSU, Georgia, Ohio State, and Oregon would be in, a G5 team doesn't deserve an automatic bid.
@ericlofroos2405
10 ай бұрын
He’s no longer welcome in Tally, that’s for sure.
@jamiethornton6101
10 ай бұрын
It's kind of funny and maybe @DepressedGinger can talk about this. Back in 1993 when FSU won a national title, they had lost a regular season game against Miami. Now Nebraska was number one and were going to be in the Orange Bowl. But West Virginia was also undefeated. Yet FSU's coach and everyone associated started crying that they deserved to be in over West Virginia. Well, all of the crying and begging, FSU got the Orange Bowl over West Virginia.
@johnjess4111
10 ай бұрын
If i was the coach of Michigan,...I would tell every defensive player of mine to watch Lawrence Taylor films with me and to show up with his Game Face against Alabama.
@butterbook
10 ай бұрын
SEC has two teams...just like the ACC. Please prove me wrong
@dillondelhoney714
10 ай бұрын
I'm a Georgia fan and I feel Georgia deserves to be left out, because they did not win the SEC championship in a year where any conference championship loser would be automatically out.
@johnwatkins3985
10 ай бұрын
As a Bammer..and Georgia is one of the best 4 teams..RTR
@shawnj1966
10 ай бұрын
Georgia is still one of the top four teams and would probably beat Bama if they played them again. As a Gators fan, I am disgusted that I just wrote that and now must go wash my fingers out with soap.
@StunninglyHumble
10 ай бұрын
@@shawnj1966 Shoulda coulda woulda. No, Georgia did not do what they needed to do to be in the playoffs.
@jenifersantinole
10 ай бұрын
Top QBs don’t go play for Mario y’all gotta stop with that 😂😂😂
@fballcoach447
10 ай бұрын
Alabama may be better. but I find it funny everyone acting like its clear as day that they are better like they didn't just take a literal miracle to beat a 5 win Auburn team 2 weeks ago & almost lose to USF as well. It's not like they dominated the season after losing to Texas they could have easily had 3 losses this year.
@martinmccormick2166
10 ай бұрын
The thing is, Bama is clearly better. So is UGA, so is Michigan, so is Texas, So is LSU, so is Ole Miss, so is OSU, and so on.
@fballcoach447
10 ай бұрын
@@martinmccormick2166 lol you’re trolling if you say Ole Miss & LSU 😂 u remember LSU lost to FSU right?
@RB-.-
10 ай бұрын
@@fballcoach447Hmm if only there was something different about this FSU team 🤔 i can’t quite put my finger on it.
@fballcoach447
10 ай бұрын
@@RB-.- is there anything different now about the bama team that lost by 2 scores to texas at home or the one that barely beat a 5 win auburn? Oh there isnt
@terrybryant609
10 ай бұрын
@@RB-.-Hmn Prehaps they should change it to who is plays better the last game
@Johnzobeams
10 ай бұрын
We really did need a 6 team playoff at least this year
@dmja9806
10 ай бұрын
6 would def be interesting but 8 this year woulda been crazy
@thetzar671
10 ай бұрын
Not really there was 4 clear undefeated teams
@Johnzobeams
10 ай бұрын
@@thetzar671 liberty biberty
@thetzar671
10 ай бұрын
@@Johnzobeams lol 😂
@muerkier
10 ай бұрын
We were supposed to have the 12 team playoff start THIS season in 2023 BUT there is a certain ACC Commissioner who voted NO to that notion back in September of this year I believe it was. Karma is a bitch
@calebpepper3834
10 ай бұрын
I’m sorry but the playoff rules have been there since 2014 that’s 9 years now. Here is the criteria Record as in wins and losses Head to Head as in if two teams played each other and have the same record. Conference Championship. To say that Bama belongs there somehow without meeting but one criteria is stupid. Also as Dr.Livesey would say Rum and death are the same to you. To change the criteria now we might as well go back to the AP poll rules.
@MadHatterHerby
10 ай бұрын
A bunch of cry babies. Literally embarrassing for FSU...
@jordandennis6794
10 ай бұрын
😂😂😂 He couldn't take it anymore
@Buckwheat56
10 ай бұрын
Herbie is fake. Used to love him. He succumbed to ESPN
@twoalpacas8me
10 ай бұрын
This guy said oregano is better than Washington???!!! After getting beat 2wice in 1 season.. smh
@johnnyjohnnyson4672
10 ай бұрын
Doesn’t matter imo. There is no point in playing a season, or frankly doing any form of competition, athletic or otherwise, if we simply choose the best analytical teams. Who cares if Alabama is better on paper? Where’s your heart? Don’t you appreciate the narrative, the Cinderella stories, the underdog finally having a chance? If your answer is “no, I just want to see the two best statistical teams play” then I have nothing else to say to you other than I have an entirely different view from you in regard to the entire point of playing and watching sports. Don’t play a season then! Just have a computer decide the best 5-6 teams and have them play each other a few times to decide who the champion is. Avoid more injuries that way. We watch sports for the narrative! That’s what fans love! That’s the meaning of it all. My hope is that a 12-team playoff will alleviate this issue. Admittedly there will be some serious first round blowouts. But better for the spirit of competition overall.
@MattLindon-wv8jy
10 ай бұрын
They arent even better on paper.......
@loganschmidt.8454
10 ай бұрын
Dawg whats the ppint in highly competive sports if analytics don't play a major role. Its caveman thinking.
@johnnyjohnnyson4672
10 ай бұрын
@@loganschmidt.8454 I didn’t say analytics shouldn’t play any role. But the value in sports to most people is the narrative and human element to it. My point is, a good system would take into account teams that deserve to be in the playoffs due to how they played during the season, even if statistically they’re worse than a team with 1 or 2 losses. I think the 12 team playoff will make things much better. You’ll get your analytically top teams even if they’ve lost, and you’ll get underdog teams who went undefeated.
@spagbol525
10 ай бұрын
I'm with FSU and their fans. They earned, and I mean EARNED that undefeated record, just to get fucked in favor of Alabama. Not the first time either: *THEY DID THE SAME THING TO UCF IN 2017.* They're still mad about that, too, and even claim to be the 2017 National Champs just to give the NCAA a big middle finger. Back to the main point, FSU is definitely in the right here - like, I'm an Orange fan, I hate the Noles to my guts, but this is blatantly unacceptable.
@bjohnson5521
10 ай бұрын
Kirk does hate fsu and he even said that years ago
@tonysauruswrexu4623
10 ай бұрын
He could’ve just shortened his explanation/rant to say “We want an SEC team in because they bring in more money. 🤷🏻♂️ Sorry about your perfect season! Maybe next year!”
@smokezilla3975
10 ай бұрын
i seen espn bama band wagon show thay had with nick saban and i knew at that point thay was going to put bama in there over a team with a better record
@johnnybgoode8104
10 ай бұрын
How many times does Washington have to beat Oregon - Literally 3x in a row now and yet "OrEgOn Is BeTtEr" I'm not a UW fan. Im a Texas fan. This guy is just as ridiculous as Kirk
@skeetwheatstraw1374
10 ай бұрын
Kirk Herbstreit is dumb and prejudice. Really 2000! FSU played that game without OC Mark Richt. Whom UGA (SEC) hired as a HC and would not let him coach the NC game. Also 1998 FSU played for an NC with a backup Quarterback. Chris Weinke got injured same game JT. Still played for NC.
@doylekennedyusaf7808
10 ай бұрын
FSU hasn't lost a game since October 2022. Not an FSU fan but if you was you would be arguing they deserve to be in. Michigan Washington FSU then Texas . I'm an Oklahoma fan. So I don't have a dog in the fight. Who do I think are the four best teams. Georgia Michigan Alabama Washington However I could easily put Ohio State ahead of Washington in my four best teams.
@joethumm8186
10 ай бұрын
Kirk is absolutely right Florida State does not deserve to be in the final four...Florida State Fans shamed themselves and their team the way they've reacted to this !!!
@88jaspersimmons
10 ай бұрын
Not really. As an unbiased observer, I think FSU fans have handled this just fine
@tonysmith952
10 ай бұрын
Kirk Herbstreit has shown himself to be biased and therefore can never be seen as a Professional Sports Analyst. The rant indicates that he is deranged and cannot handle the criticism he is getting and rightly deserves.
@Justin-pq3rq
10 ай бұрын
Ohio state has the biggest beef. They lost a road game to the number 1 team by 6 points in a game they could have EASILY won. Michigan literally played perfect. Got the benefit on a TD call that could have been turned over. Got a free TD on a gimme INT. Etc…. So. Ya if anyone should be pissed about not being their is Ohio state.
@kylefield707
9 ай бұрын
I mean the right choice was made for sure after georgia beat them by 60 i feel georgia has a better case for being snubbed
@steve-onewm-o9297
10 ай бұрын
He cracked and gave FSU fans EXACTLY what they wanted. The sad thing for Herbie is that this is only the beginning. FSU is not going to stop attacking him ever...it would be wise for him to try and stay out Tallahassee at all costs
@john-mc4zo
10 ай бұрын
Hmmmm AAC beat the SEC overall this year
@briangwin1251
10 ай бұрын
FSU fans just can't see past their natural bias. And I understand that. But the truth is subjectivity has always been part of the game. Because it has to be - there are 133 teams playing schedules with much different levels of difficulty. Bama played a difficult schedule while FSU played one of the easiest schedules in the power five. Bama beat number #1 UGA. FSU's best win is Bama's 3rd best win. So stop acting like the committee did something completely crazy. You act like they put in a 7-5 team who did nothing over FSU. Bama had a case - that's a fact. Feel free to disagree but you can't escape that reality. It's just an unfortunate set of circumstances this particular year - there were 6 deserving teams for 4 spots and FSU got left out. So all the committee did was MAKE A CHOICE THAT YOU DISAGREE WITH. That's it, that's all that's happended. Nothing more nothing less. And just because you disagree doesn't mean anything nafarious happened! Hopefully going to 12 teams will resolve most of this sort of thing.
@CoryPlaysDrums
10 ай бұрын
Damn, I didn’t realize there were so many people out there with the ability to predict things that haven’t happened. Oh, those are assumptions 🙄 Noles got screwed. No room for opinions deciding sports. Those are no longer sports.
@brettk9316
10 ай бұрын
What Texas would stomp those trash teams. Michigan, Ohio st, Georgia, and Oregon. That was a bad example post!
@whatlol_e
10 ай бұрын
texas would lose to all those teams you listed
@MiRi-zi4wp
10 ай бұрын
FSU Fans if you ever see Kirk Turdstreit, Paul FuKbalm, and any of the cowardly Selection Committee Members "In Person" remember "IT IS ON SIGHT!" Make sure to let them know exactly how you feel about the level of disrespect they have shown FSU!
@tommygunzz8117
10 ай бұрын
Na. They probably would have left FSU out even If JT was healthy.
@pierresoorden5975
10 ай бұрын
So right
@jomabug76
9 ай бұрын
If it was best teams bama would be in ..they beat uga with no problem ..and strength of schedule bamas is harder way higher than any team up there as well ..and fsu they showed exactly why they got it right .
@kimmartin6063
10 ай бұрын
It's all about money
@christopherbritt321
10 ай бұрын
F*** FSU! Miami should have been in the final 4.
@johndippolito4148
10 ай бұрын
Kirk you have mess with the wrong person with that comment I do not appreciate that comment
@bobbowie9350
10 ай бұрын
Comparing teams to whom all having different schedules is stupid. Fan bases are the dumbest sector in america.
@thegrayman69
10 ай бұрын
Why even play all season if this is the case ? The NFC south is god awful this season . Is the NFC South champion going to get snubbed from the playoffs because other wildcard teams are better ?
@slayer7682
10 ай бұрын
Herbstreit cried when bama jumped B10 champ O st . when bama didn't even play in their championship game. each had 1 lose. wtf is he talking about Miami wasn't even in the acc back that, whys he is bringing that up. Noles made it anyways.
@john-mc4zo
10 ай бұрын
What happems if flordia state beats Georgia by more points then Alabama Like flordia state aleady did with LSU
@socksoff5th
10 ай бұрын
Crazy part is its not just FSU fans lol. Its no reason UGA should be ranked lower than all three of us. They were 29-0 since the last time they lost until the Bama game lol and like they are saying its not off just one game then no reason UGA should not be top 4. But they'll continue to try and make it seem like its only FSU fans complaining when its not. The whole Attorney General thing is funny to me cause if its true its going to change a lot.
@muerkier
10 ай бұрын
I have not seen a single person claiming to be a Georgia fan complaining at all not in person and not online. I have seen FSU fans complaining FOR Georgia to try and bolster their case but thats it.
@88jaspersimmons
10 ай бұрын
@@muerkier I am not a Georgia fan or FSU fan, and I agree 100% with FSU's gripes. These are not just fringe FSU fans making noise. It is much bigger than that.
@muerkier
10 ай бұрын
@@88jaspersimmons That is just it, it REALLY is not bigger than that. The Crying is bigger than that but that is it. There is no merit to it. FSU is not the only team to ever be screwed in one fashion or the other. In the past when teams get screwed their fans cry for a couple days and we move on. Here is it almost 2 weeks now and FSU fans are still crying. It is sad really because the ones adding kerosene to this nonsense is Hater Nation who are more pissed at Alabama getting into the playoffs than with FSU being snubbed. Facts. People know what happens when Bama gets into the Playoffs. They usually win it all or are at least in the Natty game. People are desperate to see someone outside the SEC win the Natty and I get it but this has gotten stupid.
@socksoff5th
10 ай бұрын
@@muerkier Low IQ logic. Just because you haven't experienced something doesn't change the fact that It has/is happening.
@muerkier
10 ай бұрын
@@socksoff5th Low IQ .... I don't know whether to laugh, snort in derision or just roll my eyes. When one does not have an argument worth pissing on, one tends to resort to insults. Just because YOU think something is happening does not mean it IS happening. See how that works? If it can not be seen, heard or otherwise verified in the real world then it is a baseless claim. No Georgia fan anywhere has complained. Just FSU fans complain ing FOR Georgia. Until I see otherwise.
@jrwizz
10 ай бұрын
They r puttin colorado num 25 for next years preseason? 😂😂😂 yeah these preseason rankings are the biggest joke
@Edible_Inc
10 ай бұрын
Woah! My boy Dillion Gabriel is heading to Oregon?! Wow!! I started following him at UCF! What a journey
@txdoubletap8509
10 ай бұрын
True
@Sensejaws
10 ай бұрын
The current version of FSU would lose to every top 10 team by 2 scores in a playoff situation.
@4dchessplayer516
10 ай бұрын
Does not mean they should not get in.
@ragmanintx
10 ай бұрын
True Also True. FSU got screwed. Cause 2 things can be true at once. Frankly you can say similar about Georgia and Ohio State. Don't think Washington could beat either given average defense. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
@jaridatkinson4907
10 ай бұрын
But how do you know that lmfao
@jaridatkinson4907
10 ай бұрын
If you got a crystal ball I'd like one too
@dwizzle2132
10 ай бұрын
prove it lol
@ReadingsbyDom
10 ай бұрын
It’s time Herbstreit! Beyond biased! If FSU & OSU were reversed… Herby would ensure OSU would be in.
@davidbrown386
10 ай бұрын
Just another “log on the fire” anti FSU attitude ESPN. from ESPN. Personally I think FSU is going Big 10, and so does ESPN. Why? If they did not why comments like this one and the anti Seminole remarks on The Monty Show ( not to mention the College Football Playoff theft). If I felt FSU would stay in the ACC or go SEC, I would not be doing these things.
@krakenNation
10 ай бұрын
Off course ESPN is in bed with the SEC. Alabama shouldn’t be able to leap 4 spots over FSU. I’m sorry Kirk it IS RIGGED
@thefireshow1
10 ай бұрын
🐘🐘🐘They are waiting for you! Hey, where is Connor Stalions hiding these days? 😎
@kimmartin6063
10 ай бұрын
I think Ga. Better then Washington. Maybe Texas
@polywoggins
10 ай бұрын
He basically told the truth...
@dereckvineyard5792
10 ай бұрын
Herbstreit is an espn schill. His opinion is irrelevant
@terryrodney787
10 ай бұрын
Wow ACC not that good, check your stats the SEC went 4-6 against ACC teams and Ajabama struggled against mediocre competition with the likes of Arkansas, Auburn and USF.
@richardperritti5916
10 ай бұрын
FSU is 13-0. Fact. FSU has not played any of those teams this year, so we don't know if they are better. Fact. Kirk said FSU would lose to many teams this year, it did not happen. Fact. Kirk has a problem with the facts. FSU is 13-0. FSU and FSU fans have Kirk's number, and he can't take it. FYI, a full investigation has been opened by the Florida State Attorney Gerneral. This could get very interesting for all involved.
@loganschmidt.8454
10 ай бұрын
13-0 means nothing when over half of your offensive production(Jordan travis) is out for the rest of the season. That injury clearly affects FSU's offense and they are not the same without him and makes the team a whole lot worse.
@MadHatterHerby
10 ай бұрын
Fact FSU about to get exposed against UGA 😂😂😂😂
@reginaldgreen7001
10 ай бұрын
FSU can beat all of them I'm from Texas
@KaidonSalter4Heisman
10 ай бұрын
Liberty at 23!! Let's go Flames
@sarahmccoy1941
10 ай бұрын
FSU fans are disappointed. I get it. Your team finishes an undefeated regular season and wins its conference title. But the injury to your QB1. That was a huge blow! In their mind, I think FSU fans know their season ended with the injury to Jordan Travis, but in their heart they want to be in the CFP. Unfortunately, injures change things when they happen, especially when it involves a quarterback. I remember when Texas quarterback Colt McCoy was knocked out of the 2010 BCS title game against Alabama. I believe Texas would have won if McCoy played the entire ball game. But Texas had to go with little used backup, true freshman Garrett Gilbert. He gave it his best shot, but could not get the job done against Alabama’s defense. It is hard to win with a back-up in a big game. I understand the pain that FSU fans are suffering, but I also know that the chances of their team winning in the CFP would have been very slim indeed without Jordan Travis.
@chriskay1449
10 ай бұрын
It is BS. THey went undefeaetede. They should be in Period. That was compelte BS so rthey could get an SEC team in for ESPN. Period.
@hueypenguin
10 ай бұрын
defense wins championships
@loganschmidt.8454
10 ай бұрын
Florida State's offense has been bad since his injury. If they played better against Louisville maybe they would've been in@@chriskay1449
@MattLindon-wv8jy
10 ай бұрын
I will say that FSU fans do have a pretty ridiculous sense of entitlement though. Its messed up what happened, but they are just the 24th undefeated team to not make a championship game. Yet if you point this out, FSU like to say well G5 teams are irrelevant..... but FSU is literally making the same argument as G5 teams had that winning your season should matter and not how big your brand is for the sport. Also historically there have been more egregious snubs of the G5 than FSU. I mean FSU actually joins MWC TCU as being the only teams to get jumped by 2 or more teams out of a title game despite an undefeated season. Compare these two teams and it is very apparent that FSU's argument is not even close..... 2023 FSU - 13-0 - beat #12, #13, #20 - best win 45-21 vs (then) #5 LSU (neutral) - averaged 12.6 margin of victory vs ranked teams - averaged 20.7 margin of victory on season - FSU beat the best teams in its conference by 86-47 - FSU beat the worst teams in its conference by 106-26 - ranked #16 offense - ranked #6 defense - opponents record (70-74) 2010 TCU - 13-0 (back to back undefeated; 34-2 in 3 years) - beat #4, #9, #14, #21, #24 - best win 47-7 vs (then) #6 Utah (road) (TCU got jumped in the rankings when they won this game) - averaged 29.5 margin of victory vs ranked teams - averaged 31.4 margin of victory on season - TCU beat the best teams in its conference by 125-39 - TCU beat the worst teams in its conference by 159-7 - ranked #4 offense - ranked #1 defense - opponents record (87-80)
@supermodel2
10 ай бұрын
I still think Georgia and Alabama are better then Michigan and Ohio State. SEC best is better than the Big 10 best and I think we’ll see an Alabama vs Texas final this year.
@thefireshow1
10 ай бұрын
Come next year everything changes… 12 teams Go Bucks 😎
@jpmnky
10 ай бұрын
At least he didn’t break down in tears again.
@zplapplap
10 ай бұрын
😢
@jordandennis6794
10 ай бұрын
He probably did
@charliecushman9193
10 ай бұрын
Washington over Oregon they beat them twice
@RayMcCoy-Redskin21
10 ай бұрын
Stupid Argument Kirk....JT was hurt for 3 weeks before the last vote...and if y'all all thought FSU was compromised then, then why continue to rank them after the injury. Then y'all keep them at 5 on last vote..ahead of GA, oh st, and Oregon...but you didn't rank them that way .. subjective? or biased?
@kylegross1081
10 ай бұрын
Well if he wants to go back to the BCS days.. I know LSU wanted no part of USC in 2003. USC probably would have beaten Florida in 2008 as well.
@gabrielw7773
10 ай бұрын
The 2000 comment was 100% legit. It should have been Miami instead of FSU in that Orange Bowl championship game against Oklahoma in 2000.
@kylegross1081
10 ай бұрын
They definitely screwed up in the BCS era too. There were several times where USC should have been in the title game and would’ve likely won instead of the other teams they threw in there
@gabrielw7773
10 ай бұрын
@@kylegross1081 Yeah that BCS co-champion stuff was crap. USC would have destroyed LSU in 03.
@kylegross1081
10 ай бұрын
@@SuperWarJamah yes the person who thinks being objective means you’re automatically a fan of the team involved. You probably think there isn’t a single person who believes Miami was screwed in 2000 and FSU was screwed in 2023 🤦♂️
@Mannyfreshkidd66
10 ай бұрын
Texas lost to team sitting at home in the couch they should have got in that week 2 regular season game credit be annoying after you beat a great team if you struggle until the end no reward. Bama only struggled once late against rival while Texas lost to rival Bama had better wins and better losses then Texas and all of a sudden beating number one means less then beating a lower ranked team head to head should only count against if teams are undefeated because you only show the merit to argue that when you haven’t lost. Texas is the only team left in top 6 that lost to a team that wasn’t top 6 at the end.
@Bbbmurr
10 ай бұрын
4 best teams Excludes majority of the power 5 its ohio st Michigan penn st Oregon Washington usc Texas Oklahoma Clemson and whoever wins the sec r the only teams eligible under the best 4 teams argument
@michaelmorse5818
10 ай бұрын
Well it’s like this when you grab the tiger by the balls and you offend him don’t be upset when he don’t take it well and that’s exactly what he’s done. He has pissed off everybody and he did it things he said so now he had to deal with it, he just can’t say whatever the hell you wanna say in incline and that and drop this at the other stuff happened that way without drawing attention to yourself and that’s exactly what he wanted to do. Now he has to deal with a consequences of it herb you got it
@mikemclendon4962
10 ай бұрын
Is Alabama better ? Ask a Nole. Is Kirk bought ? Ask a Nole.
@hs44444
10 ай бұрын
The thing is if the committee wanted the 4 best teams georgia should be in over washington and texas like lets be honest on a neutral field you cant tell me either of those teams are beating georgia
@ljevers
10 ай бұрын
I like your content that you are off your rocker if you're going to argue that Oregon is still better than Washington.... Head to head always matters, And now you have two times that they've been defeated by the same Washington team..... You would be absolutely ridiculous to argue still to this day that Oregon is better than Washington
@georgejohnson5478
10 ай бұрын
KIRK HAS ALWAYS BEEN OVERHYPED, JUST LIKE OHIO STATE🤫
@ahunts.bowling.channel
10 ай бұрын
Redit cfp is wrong Ohio state and Michigan are not better than Texas and bama especially bama
@thefireshow1
10 ай бұрын
That is your opinion! Not mine!
@ahunts.bowling.channel
10 ай бұрын
@@thefireshow1 is it an opinion or a fact?
@thefireshow1
10 ай бұрын
@@ahunts.bowling.channel Fact! All American OT Kirk Barton addressed that rumor.
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