Kobe had foot work like Ali! Each year Kobe came with a new era of himself
@GJG_3
11 ай бұрын
Yea but Dwight trynna come back in the league. If he said Kobe was better he'd be banished for saying something against Lebron.
@64mali714
11 ай бұрын
Kobe is the number 6 leader in turnovers. He traveled a lot, I guess that’s why you said he had foot work. Lebron is number 1 in turnovers. Jordan is not even on the top 25 list he’s 34 on the list as of right now. Since most people think Jordan is ball-hogger you would think he would turn over the ball way more. That’s why I consider Jordan as the best, less mistakes wins games. Also, Jordan was never a lazy player.
@hashmoncrief6965
6 ай бұрын
@@64mali714I guess you never watched Jordan's game, he got away with a lot of traveling, and I'm not talking KZitem videos, Kobe was never lazy, Kobe won without Shaq, Jordan couldn't do that without Pippen, Kobe is more skilled at basketball than Jordan is, Kobe took Jordan's moves that Jordan stole from other great NBA players and just made them better, and Jordan knows he got lucky with Magic Johnson falsely got diagnosed with hiv, Jordan knows he wouldn't have them six rings. Jordan and LeBron fans are the worst fans ever, but I will say,, Kobe North Jordan ever beg for respect, like LeBron does🤡
@andrewyuyoungearn2799
6 ай бұрын
@@64mali714 true
@ScottRachelson777
4 ай бұрын
Kobe's footwork was different than LeBron's, especially in terms of the effectiveness of the type of shots they each took and specialized in. What ultimately matters when discussing a skill like "footwork" is not what it looks like or how aesthetic it seems to the bare eye, but its EFFECTIVENESS and efficiency in scoring the basket. If fancy footwork leads to less efficient baskets, then is the fanciness of the footwork more valuable than its translation into a successful shot?
@grinchoi1
Жыл бұрын
There’s absolutely no reason for Dwight Howard to ever use “pause”.
@travisgulley421
Жыл бұрын
😂
@aopnice5896
Жыл бұрын
Facts
@jasongrant685
Жыл бұрын
😂😂😂😂😂
@kweefsweat5628
Жыл бұрын
😂😂 that man said he not gay he just a little freaky 😭
@Dreweybaby
Жыл бұрын
@@kweefsweat5628wit men 🤣💀🤣
@MrJ1S
Жыл бұрын
Dwight pausing anything is HILARIOUS 😂
@Djack-py8xr
Жыл бұрын
Swear I was just about to write that
@Magnus_VII
Жыл бұрын
Lol
@CORYCASHTV
Жыл бұрын
Because he actually the pause
@1MafiaMarc
Жыл бұрын
@@CORYCASHTV dawg 🤣😂
@coachduece
Жыл бұрын
😂😂😂😂
@VangoghC5C
Жыл бұрын
DHoward has a contagious spirit. Seems like he enjoys life and everything he is doing. Mad love and respect to you sir. For him to not be in the top 75 or whatever is freaking insane.
@TheRealTurkFebruary
Жыл бұрын
It’s called HIV.
@wraithstrongopark
Жыл бұрын
word. i'm still not feeling niggas in pearl necklaces, tho, but i know i'm old.
@lonesoljazangetsu1157
11 ай бұрын
Word. He definitely deserves to be in their over AD. But he bugging having lebron in front of kobe
@antionewalker4081
9 ай бұрын
@@lonesoljazangetsu1157 LeBron should be ahead of Kobe he was more greater and LeBron got Howard a ring after Kobe couldn’t.
@lonesoljazangetsu1157
9 ай бұрын
@antionewalker4081 bruh don't @ me we idiocy. Speak facts to me and show you atleast understand the game
@sycogee818
Жыл бұрын
KOBEEEEE ALLL DAYYY. 🏀🏀🏀💯💯 R.I.P. MAMBA🙏👑
@adnanojd
Жыл бұрын
Despite his goofiness he still deserves to be top 75 all time can’t deny it.
@Jeter112
Жыл бұрын
Like it’s PAINFULLY obvious too. The fact that he was slighted is utter disrespect
@CWillGetWitCha_973
Жыл бұрын
EASILY‼️‼️ Better than ALOT of the legends 💯
@stairway-steeltalkironresp7595
Жыл бұрын
True dat.
@Dipset415
Жыл бұрын
Not over tmac Vince grant hill etc
@vonteflockajames4921
Жыл бұрын
Take Anthony Davis out and Put Dwight Howard in his spot
@samlucas5754
Жыл бұрын
Kobe
@KTKZon58
Жыл бұрын
Dwight get a lotta flack for personal reasons (fair or not) but him not being top 75 was a damn travesty
@CezarGodbody
Жыл бұрын
Facts
@chrisrobinson8339
Жыл бұрын
That's a fact.
@joebain7313
Жыл бұрын
real shit... a lot nighas have them same skeletons in the closet
@Cornell_Alvarez99
Жыл бұрын
It’s Asinine Asi10 Asi11 you name it, Anthony Davis is on that bih but Howard is not?????? 🤣🤣🤣💀
@TheRealest365
Жыл бұрын
@@Cornell_Alvarez99Ad deserve it idk what’s wrong with u . His resume is really great and his is one of the most talented players defensively and offensive we have ever seen. Dude literally almost won finals mvp. And hit that shot over joker. His game is unguardable and he has a handle . And the dude can literally guard some of the best guards in the league
@adrianjohnson1155
Жыл бұрын
I actually agree with Dwight on the Kobe/Jordan comparison. At some point, and don't know when it happened, Kobe realized I'm HIM and chasing Jordan was an afterthought.
@winten3815
10 ай бұрын
I have kobe 1a, Jordan 1b. It's really close between the 2. Actually it's really fractions. True shooting percentage, kobe 55%, Jordan, 56% Win loss regular season, jordan 706 - 366, .659 win % Win loss regular season, kobe 701 - 356, .663 win % Post season, jordan 119 - 60 Post season, kobe 126 -72 Against 50 win teams in the playoffs Jordan- 20-7 Kobe- 25 - 10. Faced the most in playoff history. Number of playoff games against sub 100 DRTG teams among perimeter players in modern era Jordan - 6 Kobe - 65 Average SRS (competition during a title run) Jordan - 15.41 Kobe - 18.86 Total points and assists Jordan - 32,292 pts, 5633 assists. Kobe - 33,643 pts, 6303 assists. Jordan played against man to man defense. Kobe played against zone defense, also used ISO. Championships Jordan- 6-0. Kobe 5-2. Era Jordan won during the expansion decade. This was weaker Era compared to the 80s, 2000s. The defense wasn't as good as some might remember. All you have to do is do a KZitem search on exposing 90s defense. Kobe played in arguably the toughest Era in history, in the toughest conference. Tougher teams, tougher defense, tougher competition. Kobe won without shaq, Jordan never won without pippen. Also in the 90s the bulls were always the favorite to win. He had a stacked team. Kobe had to fight to the nail to win. And Shaq never carried kobe.
@raymondhansen4482
10 ай бұрын
@@winten3815💯
@egrassa1480
8 ай бұрын
Kobe thought about it from the beginning, he said that he admired Mike and stole the moves who he thought were effective, but he wasn't trying to be next Mike. He learned from Hakeem and a lot of other greats
@andrewyuyoungearn2799
6 ай бұрын
@@egrassa1480 true
@kevinorellanaable
28 күн бұрын
The conversation is lebron and Jordan. Kobe isn't in that convention. Kobe isn't a top 10 player
@Obi_Haves
Жыл бұрын
Now this felt like a good barber's shop healthy discourse. Everybody pitching in. Dwight posing the questions sometimes. Nobody talking over nobody. 10/10 🌊🌊🌊🌊
@frank-ko6de
Жыл бұрын
Dwight is a very introspective thinker, I used to just think he was just goofy. But hes just a light hearted soul, but a great thinker. man was asking them really great pointed questions to help them assess their points better. I also heard the man is a very successful farmer, and that too requires a lot of diligence and planning now that I think about it.
@HustleGang20
Жыл бұрын
Kobe & Bron are Yin & Yang... Gotta appreciate both because you can't have 1 without the other. I love & appreciate BOTH 🦁 x 🐍
@Man_eee
Жыл бұрын
You definitely can ha e Kobe without LeBron not the other way around.
@heemladen5872
Жыл бұрын
@@Man_eeeu sound dumb. We seen Kobe before in another man, he COPIED a whole other dude. Lebron is one of one
@ProphetP11
Жыл бұрын
@@Man_eee📠
@kharianaflowers8033
Жыл бұрын
@@ProphetP11 🧢
@ProphetP11
Жыл бұрын
@@kharianaflowers8033 🧏🏾♂️
@sshaxy860
11 ай бұрын
05-08 kobe was insane. Kobe improved his skills more than Jordan because he had to. He didn’t have Jordan’s athleticism and large hands. With their style of play, it was very risky to play because it was very obvious if they didn’t play well you can easily blame them. The problem I have with lebron (which is probably a good thing) is that his style of play really makes it hard to blame him for anything. His team will loose but you’ll look at stats and can’t blame him so you blame the teammates. When they win you look at levrons stats are like exactly the same even when he looses so then he gets the credit…. It’s a win win for him. I think that’s why Kobe always tried to taunt him early in lebrons career to take the last shot, because it forces you to take some form of blame
@sportstalkonly1442
9 ай бұрын
Man this is one of the worst takes I've ever seen lmao
@sportstalkonly1442
9 ай бұрын
The only time a guy ( not just lebron but anybody u can name) needs to be blamed for a loss is if he underperformed and clearly had the better team in a winnable series.
@sshaxy860
9 ай бұрын
@@sportstalkonly1442 sorry truth hurts… lebron plays basketball the “right way.” The right way means you can’t really blame any 1 person. Kobe was trying to entertain the fans with heroism
@sportstalkonly1442
9 ай бұрын
@@sshaxy860 bro wtf r u even talking about lmao
@sshaxy860
9 ай бұрын
@@sportstalkonly1442 talking about heroism bruh…. Kobe saved the world
@waffles824
Жыл бұрын
Pippen guarded the best offensive player on the opposing team, not Jordan. Kobe for the first half of his career guarded the best opponent and made the all-defensive team. Kobe's route to being on the all-defensive team was harder than Jordans route...not to mention there were more quality PG's, SG's, SF's to guard in the 2k's than the 90's.
@sylviaadkins6208
Жыл бұрын
All facts Kobe took what Jordan did and perfected it
@eazymoneymane7789
Жыл бұрын
That's a lie MJ guarded magic Johnson majority of the 91 finals go look at the tape, MJ also shutdown grant hill in the 4th quarter when pippen was getting misused, MJ would see if pippen could handle a certain player and if he couldn't MJ got that, he didn't make 9 all defensive team and 1 defensive player not taking the best player, come on you make no sense
@eazymoneymane7789
Жыл бұрын
@@sylviaadkins6208can't perfect MJ when it's only one Kobe is Kobe, both are top 2 and lebron is #7
@waffles824
Жыл бұрын
@@eazymoneymane7789 fun fact James Worthy was the Lakers leading scorer not Magic Johnson to top it off Magic averaged more point that series with Jordan guarding him, than he did during the entire season, thanks for proving my point.
@eazymoneymane7789
Жыл бұрын
@@waffles824 go look at the series all 5 games from start to finish and you'll see that you are wrong
@1SuperD1
Жыл бұрын
I like how he said Jordan had an all around game but elaborated saying he had everything in his bag and he could excel at it. Jordan didn’t use everything in his bag but if he needed to he could.
@moxgen
Жыл бұрын
He ran the point for about 10 games and averaged a triple double.
@paulh.9937
Жыл бұрын
@@moxgenyeah but that's only like 10 games. That's not a good sample size
@paulh.9937
Жыл бұрын
@@moxgenif he was running point for a season, or 2 seasons, then we could reasonably say that he was capable of doing that, but 10 games is nothing
@moxgen
Жыл бұрын
@@paulh.9937 You're missing the fact that he was not a PG. The point was there was nothing he couldn't do on the court. Can you name another player that did it all both ends clutch in the regular season and playoffs.
@reggiesmith6941
11 ай бұрын
Jordan competition was weaker than Kobe's and that's a fact. Kobe went against the higher winning percentage teams
@oldmanjenkinsgaming3555
Жыл бұрын
That ending killed me Dwight: just take it and finish *points pause!!! 😂😂😂😂
@brentonford6130
Жыл бұрын
Math you really expanding your brand to all aspects of the culture.. salute!!
@cwilliams2119
Жыл бұрын
Kobe in his own everything 💪🏽GOAT
@trueking4815
Жыл бұрын
When he said it’s harder to score all those points as a big man with no threes shit made sense
@mindbully
Жыл бұрын
It really didn’t. If it were harder to score, they’d have worse FG% percentages. He’s obviously biased, but you’re always at an advantage playing closer to the cup.
@HoweyJR_
Жыл бұрын
@@mindbullyexactly lol
@Dipset415
Жыл бұрын
@@mindbully💯😭
@ahkashi4338
Жыл бұрын
@@mindbully It was harder not because how close the hoop was, but the defense was played inside since the 3 was a bail out shot, barely taken. So you have damn near 8 in the paint and and multiple defenders around you. Makes getting the shot up harder.
@mindbully
Жыл бұрын
@@ahkashi4338 I clearly understood his point. It’s still inaccurate.
@HandsomeKing-vb6kx
Жыл бұрын
I respect math and them for shining the light on legends and keeping a mature non judgemental mindset about someone's personal business behind closed doors.Salute to yall for keeping respectful and no goofy ish.Salute.
@Piper-Down-EZ
Жыл бұрын
⏸️⏸️
@Cee4DaCulture
Жыл бұрын
Dwight and Kobe bumped heads cus Dwight thought he was better than what he really was and didn't want to put that time and dedication in cus he was a beast but he wasn't HIM.
@toxicmelody6228
11 ай бұрын
Nah he was injured, yall act as if his back wasn't fckd up, not to mention Kobe can be an asshole just like Michael.
@ducatarina
Жыл бұрын
Howard is one of the most underrated, he did his thing, he was a impactful player
@Bart-lp9vb
Жыл бұрын
No he's not he never found a post game even tho he practiced with Patrick Ewing, Hakeem n shit , if you been watching since he been drafted he was a rim protector athlete who had alot of put backs.. he should replace AD on the top 75 but he is not underrated he got comfortable. Period.
@notnice5100
Жыл бұрын
@@Bart-lp9vbhe still was unstoppable. Won defensive player of the year more than once because he was that great, sent lebron home also. I’ll take Dwight over AS any day in their prime
@hviii7452
Жыл бұрын
From HS, college, to the Pros. Look at Kareem’s chips & numbers. Was the man in the 70’s & 80’s. Salute!
@toddc.bakerjr5826
Жыл бұрын
Thank you I'm happy someone said it
@Degreciarigoberto
11 ай бұрын
Who gives a fucc about the 70s and 80s. Lol
@princeofny22
Жыл бұрын
Really gotta salute math , it’s only been growth. Def one of if not the top pods out ..appreciate the work you and the team been doin
@Kpthevow
Жыл бұрын
I believe that every generation has had there greats. And an individual who loves the game. I have been fortunate to witness how Kobe was able to link together every nation and tongue together under a roof and watch the game. He was more than a player
@DaPrinc383
Жыл бұрын
What couldn't Kobe do, then?!?! That man game was flawless, he had no weakness.
@Degreciarigoberto
11 ай бұрын
Go left. He couldn't go left😂
@DaPrinc383
11 ай бұрын
@Degreciarigoberto Ahahahahahahaha, yet he is left handed 🤣🤣
@Degreciarigoberto
11 ай бұрын
@@DaPrinc383 kobe is not left handed
@DaPrinc383
11 ай бұрын
@@Degreciarigoberto Lol, do your homework
@Degreciarigoberto
11 ай бұрын
@DaPrinc383 every move you ever seen kobe do was to the right.
@214silk2
Жыл бұрын
Having him on after reading them text he involved in is the most funniest thing I’ve seen this week 😂😂😂
@douglasreed2138
Жыл бұрын
💯 😂
@dariusjones7006
Жыл бұрын
Dwight Howard saying pause is crazy lmao
@spencerwhitsett9350
Жыл бұрын
💀💀😂😂😂😂💯
@zendavis3501
Жыл бұрын
Your profile pic is pause lmao😂😂😂
@quandellwigfall6724
Жыл бұрын
Math has some of the most famous people as guest. Salute to Math his show has definitely progressed over the years!
@paulolive1973
11 ай бұрын
Kobe was the hardest worker, the most studious of the game. He dedicated his whole career to studying and copying MJ. Despite all his efforts, he's still the 2nd shooting guard ever. He played 20 years trying to be better than MJ. Fell short. Personally, he's my #2 all-time.
@LonokeCountyResearch501
Жыл бұрын
Bill Russel is why Players like lebron and Dwight exist🚨‼️ He was the prototype ✅
@heiryanow8951
Жыл бұрын
Dwight saying pause to ANYTHING is wild
@davon4470
Жыл бұрын
I''ll never forget when Kobe said try me and called Dwight soft.
@supersai4198
Жыл бұрын
He called him soft because normally when hes around men hes hard
@hankleepixain4283
Жыл бұрын
@@supersai4198ayo
@R3llo2
Жыл бұрын
@@hankleepixain4283🫨🫨🫨😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
@bmills6176
Жыл бұрын
Dwight would have destroyed Kobe in a fist fight
@terrelljackson1995
Жыл бұрын
@@bmills6176kobe got into it with shaq he way harder than d12
@BigMoonShot
Жыл бұрын
The interview I didn’t know we needed. Great basketball insight👍
@Solodreamsz
Жыл бұрын
He did derrick rose as well
@chadliberty8975
Жыл бұрын
Jordan is like that Shaolin Monk that perfected a move over and over and over again 😁
@djstackademikz
Жыл бұрын
Kobe never left or switched or bitched he’s the best hands down rip 👑kb24👑
@24Jabba
Жыл бұрын
wym? didn't he demand a trade?
@2rawww4tvkd
Жыл бұрын
@@24Jabbafacts Kobe demanded a trade to get away from Shaq to prove his greatness lebron demands trades to get other great players to team up & call himself the greatest it’s a difference
@24Jabba
Жыл бұрын
whatever makes you feel better i guess.@@2rawww4tvkd
@CslimBlockTG
Жыл бұрын
Kobe #8 💜💛
@albgamin410
Жыл бұрын
Not to mention 10 scoring titles defensive player of the year he 6 finals mvp it’s not even close JORDAN IS THE GOAT
@Ricodell89
Жыл бұрын
Kobe the Goat you crazy Jordan wa sin the coke era Kobe played against straight athletes
@albgamin410
Жыл бұрын
@@Ricodell89 🧢🧢🧢he got carried by Shaq the first 3 Shaq got 3 finals mvp
@albgamin410
Жыл бұрын
@@Ricodell89 Kobe not even higher then Lebron
@DezZ9
Жыл бұрын
@@Ricodell89factual
@Ricodell89
Жыл бұрын
@@albgamin410 to y'all Goofies 🤣 ask NBA current and former players they taking Kobe over goofy ass lebum 🤣🤣💯💯
@kevinjohnson3066
Жыл бұрын
Kobe all day, & Kareem don't get the credit he deserves, the skyhook dominated the league for decades
@baazbana
Жыл бұрын
What people don’t realize is that Kareem use to shoot those skyhooks not only around the rim but also from the around free throw line. 20ft skyhooks. That shot still can’t be duplicated by any player.
@kassiefurgason4143
11 ай бұрын
For me mj and kobe are my G.O.A.T's. They were cut from the same cloth. Nobody since them has had the same kind of will and determination to be the best at the thing they love most. Ive seen many interviews of nba players saying there was a sort of fear knowing they was gonna have to play mj or kobe. I dont think any nba player has said that about lebron.
@rickeyadams8
11 ай бұрын
Exactly 💯
@_EYEQ
10 ай бұрын
Cap 🧢
@Twin_shawn021
Жыл бұрын
Yes Kobe over LeBron any day Dwight is hilariouswit his pause game 😂😂
@oblove1586
Жыл бұрын
Even Though LeBron Smashed His Ass 16-6 In Head to Head Battles....You FANS Are Casual and Funny ASF 😂😂😂😂😂🤷🏿♂️
@adon31997
Жыл бұрын
Hakeem Olajuwon is in my top 3 greatest of all time! His skill set, footwork, defense, etc. Is like none other. No 4 or 5 could guard him in any era. A prime Olajuwon is unstoppable! Highly underrated #thedream👑🏀🐐
@raymondsims7042
Жыл бұрын
“Top 3” 🤔he’s great possibly top ten but not top 3. I think top 3 has to be Kareem, lebron, and mj
@Jason09_
Жыл бұрын
Prime Shaq is the best Big ever !
@baraginwholesaler4328
Жыл бұрын
@@Jason09_negative
@melvinhhcp3615
Жыл бұрын
@@raymondsims7042MJ. Wilt. Kareem. LBJ frfr ain't Top 5.
@adon31997
Жыл бұрын
@@Jason09_ We ALL saw what Olajuwon did to prime Shaq....
@mrk1269
Жыл бұрын
I remember averaging about 20 assist for like four games straight to get this dude into the game! Kobe was special
@frankiethefrog1752
Жыл бұрын
Kobe’s 3 highest assist totals for a single game. 17,15,14…only one of those games came during Dwight’s tenure I believe… Busted.
@jukztv76
Жыл бұрын
Stop the cap
@mrk1269
11 ай бұрын
@@frankiethefrog1752 I stand corrected. I remembering being assist. May been a triple double. I remember afterwards Phil or kobe spoke about how kobe pulled back to get Howard more confident. The just to it is that I seen kobe do things like the 81 point game. Where he did it on purpose. Like the last game they played Boston for the title. Kobe points sucked. But he had a lot of rebounds. Each game in that series was won by rebounds. They both was down they starting center. That's goat status. No to mention his last game. He did it cause shaq ask him to do it for him and he delivered. The 81 point game was the first time his grand mother ever came to any of his professional games. That's🥶
@illuzeweb
Жыл бұрын
Kareem had the sky hook a move that was unstoppable I'm amazed that no other big man learned it
@marekboldin4386
3 ай бұрын
He played against no good centers realsitclly him and Shaq some of the most overrated players ever
@cousinchris5851
Жыл бұрын
Dwight Howard aka Big Zesty is keeping it 💯 right here. Facts!
@anthonyyoung9677
Жыл бұрын
Give me one good reason why a NBA team couldn't use defense, 12-15 rebounds, and 8-10 points on put backs and dunks
@JaeSproo
Жыл бұрын
Because they don't put any VALUE in it. Just like the NFL don't value running backs.
@reyfreeman4256
Жыл бұрын
Dwight got blackballed,like jr.smith,Carmelo, Iman shumpert
@kheprineteru4990
Жыл бұрын
Dwight is prohibited 🚫 from using the word PAUSE😂😂😂 NOT AFTER THOSE TEXTS
@Genghiskoz
Жыл бұрын
Kobe on God!!!
@danas916x
Жыл бұрын
Him not being in the NBA is crazy. Insane 🤦♂️
@face6264
10 ай бұрын
Soon as Dwight said “Pause” it told me everything I needed to know 😅
@VitaminJay
Жыл бұрын
This is why debating with Jordan fans is annoying at times and redundant, 6 rings is their argument for him being number one to them but in the same breath they disregard Bill Russell’s 11 rings saying the era was different so it was easy for him but god forbid you say the same exact thing about Mike’s era and how it was easy for him when being compared to others like Lebron or Kobe. Todays era is filled with far more skilled players as a whole and the game itself is more difficult from a skill perspective because majority of the league has players equipped with the skill to score in bunches and make defensive plays whether starter or rotation player.
@gumballwaterson1957
Жыл бұрын
Honestly, if someone wanted to use just rings, Bill Russell is the only player you could clearly put above MJ. Everyone else it's easy to see why they're not #1. That puts his floor at #2 without considering anything else involving basketball that doesn't include rings. As far as the argument Mike's era was weak the current one is strong and filled with skilled players, it's pretty easy to refute that especially for Lebron and Kobe. For skills, the NBA itself has said over and over it's changed rules to make scoring easier for wing players. They changed the rules and surprise surprise, more wing players started being the best players in the league. A lot of offensive moves today were just straight illegal in MJ's era and before. It's like arguing And1 players were more skilled than NBA players when And1 was having their heyday. No, they weren't more skilled, they just didn't have the same rules. When they went under NBA rules, they didn't do shit. I won't argue the 3, but it's not a shock that once the NBA started making sure 3pt shooters got landing space we all of a sudden got this explosion of 3s from everyone. For competition, gotta let that one go too. The winners from most of Kobe/Lebron's era played at the tail end of MJ's era and they weren't bringing any smoke. There was no sudden overthrow of MJ and Bulls with new era talent. Shaq and Co. got worked by MJ and Bulls even when Shaq had a squad. Duncan and squad won while young and old across both Kobe/Bron's era. Shaq started the era and won while old with Wade. Dirk beat Bron directly when old with a lesser talented squad. Somehow today's players are more skilled and competition harder, but 38 y/o Duncan giving them work like he'd been doing his whole career? 33 y/o Dirk working more skilled KD and Westbrook and prime Bron and Wade? If this era is more skilled, how come during most of Kobe/Bron's era, their biggest competition was from older players (many of whom actually played against MJ)?
@jtremaine23
Жыл бұрын
Interestingly, Bill Russell only had to win around 24 playoff series for his 11 rings whereas MJ had to win 24 playoff series for his 6 rings.
@VitaminJay
Жыл бұрын
@@gumballwaterson1957 You can easily name rotation players from today who are better than starters from MJs era…easily. You cannot even name 5 reputable rivals of his at his position who played in the league during his time who were actually really good competition. When he played Shaq, Shaq was very young and a far smaller/slimmer version of who he eventually formed to be during his dominant years. Tim Duncan wasn’t 38 doing anything to anyone in the league…at all…he also isn’t from MJs era, he came into the league the year before Mike retired. Dirk wasn’t old when he won, he also didn’t have a lesser talented roster when he won, Miami’s roster during the first year was a bunch of old cheap veterans alongside 3 young stars. The skilled players come in bunches and play each other on a nightly basis therefor the competition is spread out throughout the league and not just sprinkled here and there with one player being able to dominate because he plays for the best team in the league(who still made it to the finals without him). No matter what you say about the previous era, nothing they hold onto or we’re doing back then took an immense amount of skill especially defensively when all they did was foul and fight, no real skill involved. What rules were changed specifically for wing players? You’re just making things up, i can provide you with the entire list of rule changes that have been made in the league and none make todays league easier than prior or specifically easier to score. A 3 point shooter simply having feet space to land properly does not prevent shots from being contested nor blocked, it makes it harder which requires more SKILL and proper positioning and timing to contest or block the shot without fouling. Not being able to grab someone and hold them requires more SKILL due to having to get to a spot before the handler to prevent them from progressing towards the basket. Not being able to stand still in the paint to block shots requires more SKILL due to the rim protector having to rotate and constantly move to not only check his man but be aware of other players driving as well. Here’s a list of the rule changes you claim helped make things “easier” for the era after MJ as well as some from his era…nothing is missing btw. * 1984 - The 2-3-2 Finals format adopted, changing from 2-2-1-1-1 format * 1988 - Number of referees permanently increased from two to three * 1992 - Shot clock is reset only when ball hits the rim (previously it was reset if ball hit either the rim or backboard) * 1994 - Three shots awarded for foul on 3-point attempt * 1994 - 3-point line shortened to a uniform 22 feet around the basket * 1997 - 3-point line lengthened to original 23 feet, 9 inches, except in the corners where the distance remained at 22 feet * 1997 - A “no-charge” area established with a half circle with a 4-foot radius measured from middle of goal * 2000 - Timeouts increased from six to seven, fourth-period timeouts increased from three to four * 2001 - Illegal defense eliminated and zone defense allowed. Defensive 3-second rule prohibits defensive player from being in lane without guarding offensive player * 2001 - The time to advance ball past midcourt reduced from 10 seconds to 8 seconds * 2002 - Instant replay implemented for review of certain last-second plays * 2007-15 - Expansion of instant replay every year except 2010-11 * 2017 - Timeouts reduced from nine to seven per team per game with no more than two after the 3-minute mark of the fourth quarter * 2018 - Shot clock reset to 14 after an offensive rebound rather than 24 Learn ball bro….watch ball…understand ball, before speaking about ball. Don’t let nostalgia hold you back from intellectually progressing.
@gumballwaterson1957
Жыл бұрын
@@VitaminJay Nostalgia isn't holding me back from anything. "Weak" vs. "Strong" eras and "skilled" vs. "unskilled" actually takes some intellectual processing. I'd argue that the only time period one could objectively say is "weak" is the 70s because the top talent was split between the ABA and NBA. And it was clearly split because ABA players came directly into the NBA and won and were consistently top players in both leagues. I don't think there's a strong argument against that. "Easily name 5 starters from today..." so? Based on what? Mike's era had rules that placed much more emphasis on strength in the interior. I could easily name starters today that are equal to or worse than rotation players back then simply because the style and rules. It's also factually true that some feats seen as "skill" today are simply rule violations in Mike's time. Just like Dikembe Mutombo was a "skilled" defender for his time by taking advantage of the no 3s defensive rules (or to a stronger degree Mark Eaton), Mutumbo and Eaton probably would be worse than many current rotation players for today's game. "...5 reputable rivals of his at his time..." You're right. I could not name 5 SGs that were on Mike's level. I also can't name 5 shooting guards in the history of the NBA that I would consider Mike's "rivals". Maybe your definition is different than mine, but there are maybe 4 SGs in history who've had individual seasons that have rivaled Mike's let alone extended lengths of time or careers. "Dirk wasn't old..." Dirk was 33 when he won. If that's not considered old to you, you have a different definition of "old" than most NBA fans, historians, and players. If you really want to say Dallas had comparable talent to Miami and the series was expected to be close, then we fundamentally don't see basketball the same at all. Next you'll tell me Miami had more talent than all their opponents this year too. In '13 &'14, Duncan was anywhere from 1st-3rd best player on teams that went to the finals. He load managed a ton, but production-wise, was still one of the better/best PFs in the league. I'll concede that he wasn't doing much in his last 2 years, but 14 and 9 at 38 on a team with Lamarcus Aldridge isn't all that bad. "...nothing they were doing...took an immense amount of skill". No, that "skill" was just less obvious than today or skills you don't/didn't like. Bob Cousy doesn't have dribbling skills compared to pretty much who's picked up a basketball in the last 25 years for the simple reason the rules were strict about the hand being on top of the ball. Player's "skills" adapt to whatever rules and just cause you can't recognize that doesn't mean it's not skill. You won't get any argument from me whatsoever about today's players being better 3pt shooters compared to any era. But guess what, if you took any 3pt specialist and instantly placed him in 1975, his shooting "skill" wouldn't mean much cause he'd just be a low shot percentage shooter. Your argument about the difficulty in guarding a 3pt shooter works all types of ways. If it's harder to play defense because of the rules and that results in more skill being needed, then the exact opposite can be said when rules did not favor the offense. Harder to shoot a 3 when someone can hand check you or slide under your feet (using your logic). Does that mean offensive players are less skilled now than before? Since rules made it easier for offense, does that mean offenses are less skilled? Skill adapts to rules. Period. Your list of rule changes is so incomplete I'm not going to spend time addressing it. It also doesn't include the most important part which is interpretation of the rules and "emphasis" that refs are given or using throughout the season. The "gather" step didn't exist officially in the rule book until maybe a half decade ago. 2 steps and a shot has evolved in interpretation for the entirety of NBA history. I don't mind learning ball. I watch ball. I understand ball before I speak also. Disagreement is pretty normal even amongst HOF coaches (Phil Jackson vs. pretty much all of the modern NBA). Apply your advice to me to yourself.
@GodIsATheory
Жыл бұрын
Math putting in Work📣 This show is the Culture ✍🏾
@jzw55
Жыл бұрын
As hard as MJ played I believe he seemed to still possess something else others don’t have. Take his final game vs Utah that last (1) minute of that game. He went somewhere mentally that I don’t think others have. They call it heart or will to win.
@yoyimarti2864
Жыл бұрын
Complete push off on that shot!!!!
@jzw55
Жыл бұрын
@@yoyimarti2864 they didn’t call it. Just like they didn’t call it against Reggie miller when he barreled into MJ chest when he hit the 3 to send to game 7. The way the game was called back then. Refs didn’t wanna be part of the storyline no matter what. Right wrong or indifferent that’s the way the game was
@RooflessVillain
Жыл бұрын
Yea but that's ridiculous to basically say only MJ had the heart to win out of all the athletes to ever play any kind of sport. I love Mj too but he's human and he had his challenges too.
@jzw55
Жыл бұрын
@@RooflessVillain of course he had his challenges. I’m not a Kobe, LeBron hater. I don’t even like these debates cause I love all these guys but IMO MJ had an extra gear. When Kobe was averaging 35 ppg dominating the sport he shot his team out of games. LeBron didn’t always assert his will. He’s done it but not consistently. Even though I’d take him over Kobe
@teamgreats4084
Жыл бұрын
Where was that "WILL TO WIN" Against Larry Bird????
@AnitaHanjaaab
Жыл бұрын
Math really got the best podcast out right now. And it's not even close. Drink Champs is cool but when they get drunk shit gets too crazy. I like how leveled things are on these joints. I wanna hear intelligent takes and answers, not drunk ones.
@stairway-steeltalkironresp7595
Жыл бұрын
Alcohol is never a plus, when a professional environment is the goal.
@user-pe6vu4lv9q
Жыл бұрын
Nah Drink Champs is wassup. Math is poppin bc he puts out long clips that are enjoyable. With Drink Champs you have to actually watch the whole interview. And this "PAUSE" shit is getting ridiculous. Can't even have a conversation.
@savigegardner74
Жыл бұрын
🤣🤣🤣 there's a difference why they drink, brings the truth out. True reason I don't watch this show just clips is they trying to be something they ain't they show don't feel authentic they want to be white professionals 🤷🏾♂️🤷🏾♂️🤷🏾♂️ #DrinkChamps #TruthComesOut
@AnitaHanjaaab
Жыл бұрын
@@user-pe6vu4lv9q I feel you on the pause shit. But Nore doesn't allow his guests to answer questions when he's drunk. He's always interrupting them. That's what I hate about the liquor being involved in that podcast.
@therealmvp232
Жыл бұрын
Club shay shay is the best
@ilkandemir7557
Жыл бұрын
4:18 Dwight: _"Literally everything Michael Jordan did, Kobe Bryant did times two...🤨. Jordan was a midrange shooter, Kobe could shoot 3s... Jordan wasn't as efficient shooting 3s as Kobe."_ 🤦🏻♂ MJ shot 32,7% from 3 vs 32,9% for Kobe, which is NEAR IDENTICAL! Additionally, Kobe attempted 4,1 3s per game compared to MJ's 1,7. This played a role in Kobe's microscopically improved efficiency.
@kelvinharris1808
Жыл бұрын
Dwight witness both careers from the bench, bro had the best seat in the house!
@kingbrutus1804
Жыл бұрын
Can’t remember what year All-Star game it was but LBJ didn’t want no part of Kobe 💪🏾
@raymondsims7042
Жыл бұрын
Come on mate that’s an all star game and I’m a Kobe fan😂you’re reaching for anything
@kingbrutus1804
Жыл бұрын
@@raymondsims7042 go back and watch the All-Star game Kobe was literally tell LBJ come on let’s go and LBJ didn’t want no part he literally passed the ball 🤣🤣🤣
@kingbrutus1804
Жыл бұрын
Go and watch the 2013 All-Star game Kobe locked down LBJ and he was talking trash to LBJ bro LBJ didn’t want no smoke 💨
@QuietStorm263
Жыл бұрын
@@kingbrutus1804😂 REACHING LOL CHECK THEIR HEAD TO HEAD MATCHUPS
They had a euro step back in a day but they didn't call it that. They just did the move and went back on defense lol
@srush5571
Жыл бұрын
People act like Jordan only played 6 seasons in the league. What about the other 7 seasons he struggled just like any other NBA great. You can’t just erase a player struggles just because he’s your favorite player
@emack4371
Жыл бұрын
FOH his teammates struggle.....
@eddieblaze9227
Жыл бұрын
Stop it man!!! Did you watch Jordan live or only highlights
@acshadmagee1903
Жыл бұрын
that goes along with alot of other players in this league, if were gonna talk about all the wins..you better be prepared to talk about the losses but him going back to back is unprecedented... thats legendary
@KDogduval
Жыл бұрын
Great point Dwight...another reason why MJ is the 🐐. He did all that he did IN A CROWDED PAINT era. While shooting minimal 3s. Both BEAN and Bron shot damn near 5k more 3s than Mike. Yet MJ and BEAN have the same career 3pt pct at around 33% and Bron for his career is around 34-35 % I believe.
@tridra5714
Жыл бұрын
yeah they shot way more 3s and have the same or better percentage from 3. your percentage decreases if you take more shots
@nydibs
Жыл бұрын
@tridra5714 - not true, your 3 pt % typically increases with more attempts. Especially compared to it you’re shooting less than 1 3 a game like they did back then. And also, nobody cared about their 3 pt % so a lot of those attempts were last second heaves. Now players wait for the clock to go off before shooting the ball
@KDogduval
Жыл бұрын
@@nydibs That part🎯
@shawn57779
Жыл бұрын
They also played against way better competition and defenders. Kobe had to face an elite defender every night in the west. Had to go against the spurs, kings, , suns, Portland, mavs, just to get into the finals
@jtremaine23
Жыл бұрын
@@tridra5714 What’s interesting is the more 3s MJ took, the better he shot them.
@azrielnguyen9586
11 ай бұрын
The two years including the one where Kobe got MVP, is the peak in terms of defensive era. That is what caused the NBA to just completely abandon defense. Scoring was at an all-time low include all the offensive metrics like number of possessions, etc. Oh and by the way, the 40+ scoring streak, 81 pts game, and 60 in 3 quarter vs best defensive team also happened during this low era. Correction: I would not call it peak defensive era, more accurately is that those few years were the worst for scoring in NBA history.
@user-lm3nr1yc2t
Жыл бұрын
Kobe 💪🖤
@jrallday
Жыл бұрын
9:58 Great question Howard asked? And the follow up also , then his view! Man I’ve never thought of it like that with the big players , that shows how great they can be 🔥
@LibertyRDeath23
Жыл бұрын
Kobe way better than lebron they tried disrespecting Kobe while he was alive now they are more disrespectful now while he’s resting
@dparks2856
Жыл бұрын
Your opinion
@LibertyRDeath23
Жыл бұрын
@@dparks2856 no facts
@dparks2856
Жыл бұрын
@@LibertyRDeath23 How is Kobe better? Lebron has more everything except 1 ring. Shaq has 3 finals mvps with kobe
@michaelnelson9708
Жыл бұрын
Kobe should have 2 more mvps but they gave those 2 Nash Smdh. Lebron not better then Kobe or Jordan
@dparks2856
Жыл бұрын
@michaelnelson9708 Better than both. Lebron should have 2 more leagues mvps also
@justinbolden4108
Жыл бұрын
Lebron actually outscored Kareem in less games Dwight was wrong about that take
@walkwithme
Жыл бұрын
Kareem hit 2 3’s in his career lol.
@Ak-47ram
8 ай бұрын
If Kobe didn’t get injured 22 times and got couple more rings there would be no argument on who’s the greatest.
@paulusrumanouw3176
7 ай бұрын
Kobe choked in 2 Finals. His fg% were poor during those.
@donovanmarcus289
Жыл бұрын
I'm going to enjoy this one! Always been a fan of Dwight!
@micuzzu
Жыл бұрын
KOBE
@hoopstarhighlights
Жыл бұрын
KOBE top 2 ever!
@Each1teach2
Жыл бұрын
Jordan did have a step back and has did a euro step quite a few times. Jordan showed how efficient he was from three during the 92 and 93 seasons especially the postseason. Dwight is young
@cyber6sapien
Жыл бұрын
Jordan 91, 92, and 93 postseasons shot 38% from three.
@pastormichaelsharkey6734
Жыл бұрын
He shot 43% from three in ‘96
@twilla-wf7pq
Жыл бұрын
Jordan had a step back and a better 3pt % than Kobe
@RicoSoprano_
Жыл бұрын
I’m a Jordan fan but y’all die hard Stan’s are delusional
@Each1teach2
Жыл бұрын
@@RicoSoprano_ nah just seen him play from start to finish. You weren't even born!
@wassup4294
Жыл бұрын
When Howard went to LA with Kobe, Phil was no longer coaching, and Howard was coming off a back injury which he came back too early from.
@wesleyvaux5590
Жыл бұрын
I can’t believe an NBA player, played basketball his whole life, so called student of the game can’t accurately analyze MJ Vs Kobe..
@yannickscott2234
Жыл бұрын
Honestly u are not qualified to critique his opinion He may not articulate himself well but he knows better than most people on the planet
@wesleyvaux5590
Жыл бұрын
@@yannickscott2234 He articulated his point just fine . What he said was “ Everything Michael did, Lobe did times 2” … That’s not only not accurate, it’s straight up silly. And a little food fer thought . Whether a person is right, or wrong, is superfluous. Everyone is entitled to critique another’s opinion ! …The word itself says it all …..Opinion . Differing opinions is how we learn. Have a blessed day!
@MusicMakesAdiff23
Жыл бұрын
Let me help you break it down then.. Kobe was more skilled version of Mj while Mj was 2% more efficient in scoring but let’s talk about it.. Kobe did everything MJ but a bit better except one thing Ball handling, Kobe had much better ball handling skills than Mj. Kobe mastered the footwork, Hakeem said Kobe had the best footwork he’s ever seen. Meanwhile Hakeem teaches footwork. Said Kobe asked him to show him some things and Hakeem told him “there’s nothing I could show him that he hasn’t already displayed” Kobe was a better shot created, difficult shot maker, they both were great mid range shooter with guys all over them but Kobe could shoot the 3 ball. He was a threat on more areas on the court than MJ was, defense? Ok MJ has 1 defensive player award I give him that but..Kobe has 9 first team defenses made and 12 overall.. that’s an NBA record so he was just as good as MJ on defense and he never had a defender like pippen to Gaurd the opposing teams best player. Kobe always had to Gaurd the best player even if they were a point Gaurd, SG or Small Forward. He’s had to Gaurd quick 6ft killers like Iverson and tall 6’9 players like Tmac
@wesleyvaux5590
Жыл бұрын
@@amifiii265 So Kobe had more skills then MJ? I can see how someone might that argument..and maybe right, but as similar as they both were, there was also vast differences..1st Kobe simply didn’t possess the physical gifts that MJ had . Also , as MJ got older , he became far more surgical then Kobe.. MJ never waisted steps .Kobe’s made reference to that several times over the years.. Kobe was a better 3 point shooter then MJ ( to be fair to both of them tho, there wasn’t nearly the emphasis on the 3 pointer when they played.. Mike was a better Mid range shooter .. No matter how u slice it, love em both
@ricosuavepr1207
Жыл бұрын
He can but Jordan stans will cut you off...Kobe is probably most skilled player the game has seen and like he said he could do everything at another level than Jordan skill wise.
@5dollarshake263
Жыл бұрын
When Dwight Howard says "pause" its only so he can take another couple of seconds envisioning the scenario he just said "pause" about.
@stringer2295
Жыл бұрын
😂😂😂😂
@joshuad24
Жыл бұрын
You got it 😂😂😂
@trollpolice
Жыл бұрын
Dwight could of been one of the goats he was Giannis mixed w Shaq.
@blackjesus6433
Жыл бұрын
Dwight is the 2nd most athletic center behind Wilt. 🙏🏾
@KingJRZJ
Жыл бұрын
He was the one guy I thought could stop LeBron early on and he never stepped up. Smh
@stevenl.2338
Жыл бұрын
@@KingJRZJHe did it with the Magic in 2009
@jrallday
Жыл бұрын
11:07 That pause was funny as hell 😂😂😂
@kllipsninja1138
Жыл бұрын
Damnnnn I never thought about Kareem’s points until DHoward made that point. Jabbar scored 38K pts and never shot 3’s and parlayed in the paint his entire career and was opposed by other bigs. While Bron’s feat was great, I think Kareem’s was more difficult as he had to rely on someone passing him the ball whereas Bron was ball dominate since he came in the league. Imagine that, DHoward who gets no respect and everyone thinks was never serious just made the best point I ever heard about the all time scoring. Wow!!!!!
@drew5700
Жыл бұрын
Never had the chance to see Kareem play because of my age, but yeah what Kareem did was incredible, but to say Kareem deserves more credit, because he shot no 3s, is not fair to lebron, it's not like lebron was a 3 point sniper, also lebron is still top 10 in other categories, like assist, steals, if not he will be, so to me what bron did is more significant,
@michael43567
Жыл бұрын
I disagree. The skyhook was pretty unguardable. He didn't have to work that hard to score
@biged5149
Жыл бұрын
Kareem was just an awesome player because he won a ring before he joined the Lakers and centers didn't shoot 3's back then a scorer is a scorer period you do whlat you do best as long as you score period Shaq was unstoppable and he couldn't hit free throws and Scottie was a better all around players than Jordan he assist , rebound ,scored and played defense that's why he has six rings as well
@skeesmith36
Жыл бұрын
Big facts 💯. Its a huge difference between greater and better. Bill Russell was greater than Wilt. But Wilt was a better player
@mindbully
Жыл бұрын
Bill’s “team” was greater. If they’d been traded for one another, you would’ve never heard or Bill Russell. He averaged 15ppg.
@melvinhhcp3615
Жыл бұрын
@@mindbullyRight!
@skeesmith36
Жыл бұрын
@@mindbully his team's bein greater made him greater. But like I said, Wilt was a better hooper
@mindbully
Жыл бұрын
Saying Kobe did everything Mike did times 2 is not only the worst take ever, but literally the opposite of what occurred.
@Lu_Williams
Жыл бұрын
Bruh that man Kobe the Walmart version of MJ. Ever since he died they’re extra kind to him
@z-mane1438
Жыл бұрын
He meant skill not accomplishments
@mindbully
Жыл бұрын
@@Lu_Williams Indeed. There’s nothing that substantially supports Kobe being a better player than Jordan, beyond personal preference.
@mindbully
Жыл бұрын
@@z-mane1438 He isn’t twice as skilled as Jordan. That’s a laughable assertion.
@iampioneer81
Жыл бұрын
@@mindbully I disagree. If you look at his entire body of work there's a lot. MJ wasnt good enough to come out of high school. Kobe was. He also won 3 chips by the time he was 23. Climbed back to the top of the mountain and won 2 more. You also have to consider how ridiculous his numbers would have been if he never played with Shaq for 7 years. His numbers would probably have surpassed MJ's.
@Philliphh
Жыл бұрын
Kobe the best to ever do it mid range deep shooting scoring at the rim above an below defense was cool too Kobe to me is the total package an he gone give u tht game everytime out
@criticalthought4910
Жыл бұрын
Kobe shot 41% in the Finals and below 45% in 9 of his 15 playoff runs He’s #6 in turnovers but only #36 in assists. He gets so much love because his brand of Hero Ball is exciting to the fans. Fans always love the gunner even when he’s not efficient.
@emack4371
Жыл бұрын
U r a Kobetart......his scoring was below MJs in the playoffs finals and regular season.....his 1st ring he averaged the same amount of points as Austin Krosher....and he missed 2 games....name a season MJ would have won doing that?....u can't let that man RIP
@lionelserrano6554
Жыл бұрын
Cam and Mase have revolutionized the way grown men talk amongst each other 😂😂😂😂
@imachamp88
Жыл бұрын
To be fair, the three pointer era when Jordan was playing was no where near what is today. I think Kobe introduced us todays three point era and Stephen Curry took it to another level
@jKHAHN215PA
Жыл бұрын
9:53 best player of all time MJ all inclusive and wild clutch! He’s the blueprint he took dr. J energy and theatrics and bawsed like no other
@joejoiner8582
Жыл бұрын
Bron averaged more points, rebounds, assists, blocks, steals, scored more points, and has a higher fg% and 3pt%. If you bring up rings be sure to mention bron has twice the finals mvp's than Kobe
@JCDenton.
Жыл бұрын
Math def got me listening more often than I do Joe Rogan which says something. Good stuff.
@marcosmith9315
Жыл бұрын
F joe Rogan u act like that's saying something
@shawn57779
Жыл бұрын
I liked Rogan more before his move to Spotify. Had better guests and more interesting. But still good
@jonwhispers
Жыл бұрын
They also forgot to mention that as a guard, if you really wanted to you can score whenever you want to, because you have the ball first. You don't have to give it up. On the block, you just got to stand there with ya hand out like you trying to hit up a cab. Nowadays it's different, big dudes have more handles. but when Dwight was playing, aint nobody giving him nothing until he's got position, cause he wasn't shooting jumpers. I think that's why Kareem was legit, cause he had that hook that was automatic.
@ralx225b
11 ай бұрын
Dwight said it was easier to shoot, if it was easy to shoot, shooting wouldn't be a premium. Shooting outside of man on man defense is the hardest skill. It's why shooters are so in demand.
@ChicagoStyles23
Жыл бұрын
With Jordan's 6 rings, he was the BEST PLAYER in those finals each time. Kareem and Bill didn't win finals mvp on every championship. End of story
@peoplz50
Жыл бұрын
It's funny how when he was comparing Kobe to Jordan as soon as Jordan was up he was like a two different areas. Either going to compare them or not
@grinchoi1
Жыл бұрын
Exactly
@KingJRZJ
Жыл бұрын
They always make excuses when it comes to Russell as if he wouldn't have been dominant in Jordan's era.
@emack4371
Жыл бұрын
He wouldn't have .....nobody had more help then Bill.....Sam Jones had 10 Havelchich had like 8....etc
@jtremaine23
Жыл бұрын
Interestingly, Bill Russell only had to win around 24 playoff series for his 11 rings whereas MJ had to win 24 playoff series for his 6 rings.
@tonywong8134
Жыл бұрын
Dwight was not super young in la. He was in his late 20s.
@terencejones22
Жыл бұрын
Ikr 26 or 27 at the moment
@culleeyy
Жыл бұрын
@@terencejones22still very young
@terencejones22
Жыл бұрын
@culleeyy he was in year 7 or 8 he was a vet at that moment fam just saying he wasn't in year 3 or 4 superstars have it together at that time in their careers if we keeping it real now
@tonywong8134
Жыл бұрын
@@culleeyyNo one who is 26 is very young. They are closer to 30 than they are to 20. I'm 26 and I don't even remotely consider myself very young.
@Polojay49
Жыл бұрын
No need for the “Pause” Dwight.. We know already 😂😂
@realstreet8618
Жыл бұрын
Oh the Greek freak pause lol😅😅😅😅
@djlucky8745
Жыл бұрын
Bruh a lot of people don’t understand Jordan’s greatness.. He was so great, he was able to dictate the outcome of a game.. He was Vegas…
@ktbeatty
11 ай бұрын
It’s normal. No one remembers how good Kareem was. No one remembers how good Magic and Bird were. Jordan is fading. Kobe is fading. LeBron will fade. When people say James Harden is better than Jordan and Kobe, you know.
@abdulthadon
Жыл бұрын
My favorite baller will forever be the Mamba
@vonjackson2421
Жыл бұрын
Kareem's Sky Hook is unblockable!! Point Blank!!
@eugimon
11 ай бұрын
I like grown man Howard a lot. He knows who he is and he's got nothing to prove, but he's still humble and open. Dude's is good people.
@brandenwebb6232
10 ай бұрын
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
@Ty-Zay
Жыл бұрын
I understand Jordan won Defensive Player of the Year but Kobe was 12x all defense & was the last player to Average 30ppg & make All Defense First Team n the same year Kobe had clamps Frfr… r.i.p mamba 🐍
@Ty-Zay
Жыл бұрын
MJ, KOBE, LEBRON N THAT ORDER TOP 3 PLAYERS OF ALL TIME
@WolfmanBlak313
Жыл бұрын
So if Bill isn't (11 rings) but MJ is (bcuz of 6 rings) what are they saying😂😂😂
@christianhenry4173
Жыл бұрын
Exactly
@millardthomas9059
Жыл бұрын
Rip to the Mamba but" he did everything Jordan didx2"🤔
@ricardoalvarez8415
Жыл бұрын
He meant that he had Jordans game but he added more moves. Kobe trained with Hakeem to learn about footwork and Kobes footwork was one of the best
@POLO-PLAYA
Жыл бұрын
Kobe wanted to rip your heart out your chest. Jordan wanted your soul
@Certifiedspeaker1994
Жыл бұрын
😂bron better than both
@POLO-PLAYA
Жыл бұрын
@@Certifiedspeaker1994 either you're being deliberately stupid or your 12 years old
@booblam6919
11 ай бұрын
@@Certifiedspeaker1994he's great...but no
@ClassicOpinion
10 ай бұрын
It’s my opinion: ~ awesome interview of difference of opinions amongst men and yet all in harmony in conversation…..Love this ❤
@Dre-xc2no
5 ай бұрын
Great discussion! I put Kobe #1. It's okay to admit, that popularity factors into the GOAT debate. Personality and style of play preference, it all matters. Ironically LeBron's longevity, can be seen as working against him, because he's basically putting up the same stats he did in his prime, but struggling every year to make the playoffs now.
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