It might not offer audiophile sound quality, but four beefy channels of over 1kW@8Ω each in a relatively compact casing are enough to make this a nice budget solution for audio amplification. It's enough for pushing almost any speaker cabinet to its limit.
@SoundGuy-vn3kl
4 ай бұрын
Yes, we have compared them side-by-side with the original. There is no difference in Sound to a human ear.
@MyroGopy
2 күн бұрын
Sir is their any different from the sinbosen and the sanway ? Which one you recommend me to buy
@CoroaEntertainment
3 жыл бұрын
2:32 The clone is longer due to the larger cooling fins at the back and not because of the two extra caps.The front section where the caps are located (between the front faceplate and fan supports), is basically the same depth when visually comparing both amps. -> 0:05
@casekyle6293
3 жыл бұрын
I guess it is kinda off topic but do anybody know a good website to watch newly released tv shows online?
@jordanwillie6726
3 жыл бұрын
@Case Kyle Flixportal :)
@casekyle6293
3 жыл бұрын
@Jordan Willie Thank you, signed up and it seems to work :) I appreciate it!!
@jordanwillie6726
3 жыл бұрын
@Case Kyle you are welcome :D
@flowinsounds
4 жыл бұрын
been pushing my aoyue clone pretty hard for a few years now. Its just great. Drives a heavy load quite happily.
@SoundGuy-vn3kl
4 жыл бұрын
Yes sir I never had a problem with mine aswel good amps so far
@TheMessenger212
4 жыл бұрын
How much was it total shipping and all?
@TheMessenger212
4 жыл бұрын
@@SoundGuy-vn3kl which one is better to you in term of handling power and run time and price?
@SoundGuy-vn3kl
4 жыл бұрын
I think it was around $930 cad and they are both great Amps but if I were to purchase any more I think the build quality of the Sinbosen Amps is a little better
@TheMessenger212
4 жыл бұрын
@@SoundGuy-vn3kl what about actually maximum push for both from huge concert speakers WE NEED TEST you can get alot of views dude
@carfagnaandrew5235
5 жыл бұрын
Few months ago I have tried sinbosen's FP10000q and FP20000Q amplifiers.Their cooling system of FP10Q is good. Although the size is bigger than other.
@SoundGuy-vn3kl
5 жыл бұрын
Carfagna Andrew oh nice how did you like the fp20000
@carfagnaandrew5235
5 жыл бұрын
@@SoundGuy-vn3kl Yes my FP20000Q each channel connect with one unit dual 18" sub , they run very well. the supplier said this amp under 4ohms is stable
@SoundGuy-vn3kl
5 жыл бұрын
Carfagna Andrew oh that’s very nice I think I will order one and try it
@johnplayerson5906
5 жыл бұрын
You never mentioned the heatsink in the front. It looks like the simbosian clone has full copper heat sinking vs aluminum on the sanway. Manitoba here.
@johnplayerson5906
Жыл бұрын
Actually that heatsink may be just anodized not copper. Anodizing increases thermal capacity, but black is apparently best
@SoundGuy-vn3kl
Жыл бұрын
Awesome thanks for letting me know
@borsosbotika4564
6 ай бұрын
Hello! What’s your long term review? It is worth it? For 2pcs double 18 I need a power amp, i hope the 10q will be good. Thanks
@SoundGuy-vn3kl
6 ай бұрын
It’s have been using theses amplifiers for many years now maybe 8 times per month and I never had a problem
@sundipsohal3820
4 жыл бұрын
My experience on the SANWAY versions is the channel boards go into protect quite often and need replacing. For this reason I Got rid of the amps.
@SoundGuy-vn3kl
4 жыл бұрын
Sundip Sohal Wow OK we have been running them for over four years now I’ve never had a problem with any that’s weird that yours had problems
@sundipsohal3820
4 жыл бұрын
SoundGuy0000 I’m glad you have not had issues hopefully they rectified any problems. SANWAY themselves provided me schematics and advised me to remove 1 of the components located next to the PSU (white chip) I believe there is three side by side. They advised removing one of these stabilised the amp and helped against boards blowing. It did help but eventually boards would fail.
@MadScientist512
2 жыл бұрын
The caps in the Sanway appear to be better quality/higher temperature versions and could even have higher individual,but and therefore the same, or even more overall capacitance as the Sinbosen, so saying with Sinbosen that More Caps=better doesn't take any of that into account. Overall great general info, but this point is accidentally somewhat irrelevant at least and actually misleading at worst while also ignoring the potential short longevity issue of cheap caps.
@stevemendez4741
Жыл бұрын
they are better amps period ! all the way.
@jayesmoker1140
11 ай бұрын
I have had 3 sinbosen dsp amp failures put of 7 in 3 years so far. You think Sanway is better?
@djiqmix
2 жыл бұрын
would you know how they compare to the ones on ebay, sold by theloudfactory?
@SoundGuy-vn3kl
2 жыл бұрын
To be honest I am not sure never compared them to these
@soyyo9704
2 жыл бұрын
The Sanway 10,000 to me sounds cleaner that the da18k4, what do you think?
@SoundGuy-vn3kl
2 жыл бұрын
I never tried the da18k4
@Deejblackboysxm
4 жыл бұрын
Any update side to side with speakers on these amplifier?
@merctr2
5 жыл бұрын
So what one do you prefer because I’m looking at purchasing one or the other I want the best but I’m looking at the FP30000q
@SoundGuy-vn3kl
5 жыл бұрын
merctr2 tuff choice I would probably say either one but if it was me I would say Sinbosen Amps
@TheMessenger212
4 жыл бұрын
@@SoundGuy-vn3kl can you make another video regarding this and compare them as well as price and performance
@noeramirez9056
5 жыл бұрын
Buenas tardes. Entonces cual es la mejor de las 2... ya que cada amp es de diferente compania. Cual recomientas
@danielchavezsalazar3545
2 жыл бұрын
Te recomiendo sanway es mejor
@KevinRodriguez-yv9hi
5 жыл бұрын
Do these amps actually do 10000K rms watts rated continously and not peak? Provided that you have the AC in your house to back it up ... in other words , will this amp power 4 x 18in subs in a home theater for music , 10000watts continously?
@SoundGuy-vn3kl
5 жыл бұрын
I never did a metre test on the amplifiers but I compare this to the real lab gruppens and they are the same amplifier I am using them to run 4 18s right now and the amp does it effortlessly what kind of eighteens are you looking to run on the amp
@sarahconner9433
2 жыл бұрын
In stadium sound they use 220v or 440v .... This amp will do what your house can give it most are 20 amps at 120 v in the USA.. So anyway you will get around 3000 Rms clean... With proper power, yes they do out out enormous power at 2 ohms 2 channels
@sarahconner9433
2 жыл бұрын
This is for stadiums and line arrays...i.e. this amp pushes 4 pro subs to 12 or 24 mids high.....if you use it in your house with 2 speakers im sure you will burn them up!! Unless your fuse them
@tomasnovacek1533
7 ай бұрын
My 10 years models from sanway / gisen can work all weekend long. But it must be on separated fuses. Best result is 32A 400V power supply from the wall or power generator to the switchboard with 3X 230V 16A fuses - each amp have own. Last free socket is for lights and dj decks.
@travisgulley2652
2 жыл бұрын
You could have sent that amp to bigdwiz aka Williston audio labs because I would guess it would be assume it would do nowhere near 100 watts rms in bridged mode and probably more like 30 to 50 watts rms per channel at 1 ohm even though it’s not 1 ohm stable in stereo mode
@kristofnagy1574
2 жыл бұрын
I had a stroke reading this
@kinggustl
5 жыл бұрын
Have you tested the amplifiers in detail? For me, it looks like the Sinbosen is better. But this is also much cheaper. What would you say?
@SoundGuy-vn3kl
5 жыл бұрын
Marius Winter i I think the build quality of Sinbosen is better I never really did a torture test but both amplifier sound the same again if I were to pick from the two it would be sinbosen
@stevemendez4741
Жыл бұрын
they are better
@FranciscoCastro-hc9gi
2 жыл бұрын
hello how are the sinbose amplifiers
@SoundGuy-vn3kl
2 жыл бұрын
They are amazing never had a problem I got 16pc
@cj18cinema
5 жыл бұрын
hey buddy how are you question wish one is better or work better for you ?
@SoundGuy-vn3kl
5 жыл бұрын
CJ18 videos hey brother Both Amps are pretty much the same but I like the build quality of the Sinbosen
@cj18cinema
5 жыл бұрын
SoundGuy0000 thank you buddy
@audibqbalkanbalkan
8 ай бұрын
greetings, how well did this enhance the sinbosen experience, is it worth buying
@SoundGuy-vn3kl
8 ай бұрын
I have been using these for 10years 4 times a week I run them very hard and never had a problem
@gabrielantonioperezmunoz3148
5 жыл бұрын
I am interested in buying the sinbosen amplifier I see it with better components. Which one of the heats more mounts a video both working with basses and tells us your experience thanks soy de colombia
@SoundGuy-vn3kl
5 жыл бұрын
Gabriel Antonio Perez Muñoz yes I will be posting another video soon are you subscribe to my channel if yes then You will be able to see the next video and I will explain my experience with both amplifiers I am from Ontario Canada
@TheMessenger212
5 жыл бұрын
@@SoundGuy-vn3kl yes please and inform us of prices and all please
@TheMessenger212
5 жыл бұрын
Did you buy one and if you did how much was it from where?
@shahzadaudio7119
5 жыл бұрын
Hi sir anyone help how to connection FP10000q amplifier board..bcz there 8pin input output one Wrote..and can use normal power DC 120v 0 120v
@Newschoolcovers
5 жыл бұрын
What are the results of the AB testing?
@AB-80X
4 жыл бұрын
They are known to fail in the field, and the sound quality is not up to snuff. Get the Lab, the clones are garbage. If you make a venue pay you good money for a professional production, you should also bring reliable pro gear. If you don't, you're a con.
@gabrielmartinez9446
5 жыл бұрын
God bless you what product do you recommend sinbosen or sanway??...
@SoundGuy-vn3kl
5 жыл бұрын
Gabriel Aguilar thank you god bless you to I like the build quality of the sinbosen a little better
@gabrielmartinez9446
5 жыл бұрын
I thought the same thing thanks for the advice
@SoundGuy-vn3kl
5 жыл бұрын
Gabriel Aguilar no problem anytime
@gabrielmartinez9446
5 жыл бұрын
good morning God bless you brother you are still using the SINBOSEN FP10000 You had no problem with the amplifier, it has not burned or is in perfect condition...
@SoundGuy-vn3kl
5 жыл бұрын
Good morning brother yes amplifiers are working great I use them a few times each week never had a problem yet
@FranciscoCastro-hc9gi
2 жыл бұрын
Hello friend, which one is better? ¿Sinbosen o sanwey?
@SoundGuy-vn3kl
2 жыл бұрын
Tuff choice I think Sinbosen
@markfinlayson2078
5 жыл бұрын
So i here these get pretty crusty when you turn them up loud. Is this true been thinking of buying one for a few years now
@markfinlayson2078
5 жыл бұрын
I want for a pa setup
@markfinlayson2078
5 жыл бұрын
Also how long have you had them, any issues. Do you run them hard or just like 50%most of the time
@SoundGuy-vn3kl
5 жыл бұрын
Mark Finlayson hmmm nope I never had a problem like that the amplifier sounds the same at all types of volumes
@SoundGuy-vn3kl
5 жыл бұрын
Mark Finlayson we always run them pretty hard and again we never had any issues at all with them
@georgfleischhacker2523
5 жыл бұрын
I am also interested in a comparison ;-)
@mrHenry8703
2 жыл бұрын
Hello ,how have the sinbosen amps held up? Thinking about getting a pair
@SoundGuy-vn3kl
2 жыл бұрын
I have been running them hard never had a problem once
@mrHenry8703
2 жыл бұрын
@@SoundGuy-vn3kl ....thanks man ......... Im picking up a Fp10,000 and a fp14,000 for only $700 for the pair ,I was a lil skeptical because they wasn't actual lab gruppens, but you've given me confidence lol
@SoundGuy-vn3kl
2 жыл бұрын
@@mrHenry8703 damm that’s pretty cheap 🤔
@mrHenry8703
2 жыл бұрын
@@SoundGuy-vn3kl im gonna do some test and I'll keep you posted on how it goes!!!!
@SoundGuy-vn3kl
2 жыл бұрын
Ok 👍
@ooklaa1
4 жыл бұрын
have you done any dyno testing on these amplifier?
@SoundGuy-vn3kl
4 жыл бұрын
I did some testing from the real ones in the fake ones and they were the same sound amplifier
@clandelpie2505
Жыл бұрын
Where find Sandway amps in US??
@SoundGuy-vn3kl
Жыл бұрын
Just order right from the website
@andreatellez2716
4 жыл бұрын
Buen video!! Saludos desde Michigan USA!
@NiliMoto
Жыл бұрын
My sinbosen fp10q blew up on me during an event. Ever since i got it it had a bad smell of hot electronics. Not quite a burnt electronics smell but still weird. I‘ve been running it hard a couple times and the smell stayed but it also kept working normally so i thought that was normal. During the event i suddenly noticed the level meter on channel a creeping towards clip. I turned it down all the way but it kept creeping up until it hit vpl, lit all leds and then literally blew up. A loud but deep „pop“. I still habe warranty but sinbosen customer support (alice and crystal wang) really take their time with replying. Now they send me a video tutorial of how to diagnose the amp myself. I‘m a bit worried to open it up. They told me they will send the replacement parts i need once i figure out what part failed. I have to pay for shipping tho… Also even if i get it fixed the blowing up just seems to be a symptom of another problem (probably related to the smell). I was very happy with the amp until this happened. I‘ll gladly take any advice or guesses on what the smell could be, how to best handle the repair and such. For anyone looking to buy one, they are good and well built amps. The money you save compared to the original lab.Gruppen just costs you proper support and you have to be prepared to handle any problems on your own. (Again please post tips or thoughts, i would really appreciate it)
@SoundGuy-vn3kl
Жыл бұрын
Well, first things first what kind of power were you giving the amplifier and was the amplifier in a proper ventilated area? and what little did you have on the amplifier meaning ohms? There’s a lot of factor here. I have been running the these amps for over 10 years. Never had a problem once and I run them very hard.
@jayesmoker1140
11 ай бұрын
I have had 3 sinbosen fail on me now. All within 4 years, of 7 dsp amps from them. None pushed hard.
@hungvotan7713
5 жыл бұрын
i think this amply too good, because i using at home
@rcfaudioitalia6110
2 ай бұрын
Everything is made in China. Sinbosen, Lab grupen, Sanway. only diference is price.
@SoundGuy-vn3kl
2 ай бұрын
@@rcfaudioitalia6110 yep true thats what I keep telling everyone
@rcfaudioitalia6110
2 ай бұрын
@@SoundGuy-vn3kl Assembled in Germany, but parts are all imported from China. All capacitors, transformers, smd's, resistors...all are made in China.
@SoundGuy-vn3kl
2 ай бұрын
@rcfaudioitalia6110 that’s what I tell people and they think I am crazy 🤪
@rcfaudioitalia6110
2 ай бұрын
@@SoundGuy-vn3kl 😅 Stupid people.
@K-Effect
5 жыл бұрын
Do you think these amplifiers put out rated power?
@SoundGuy-vn3kl
5 жыл бұрын
Kevin Guthrie to be honest I think they are identical to the real ones
@K-Effect
5 жыл бұрын
OK, cool👍🏻
@thennekcdcdthennek6417
3 жыл бұрын
@Brent Handy, CTS nice try. lol
@sarahconner9433
2 жыл бұрын
@@SoundGuy-vn3kl I think they are the originals with a different label
@deeteepeafore
5 жыл бұрын
Nice video. This is off topic but, why don't you have Atmos?
@SoundGuy-vn3kl
5 жыл бұрын
deeteepeafore I do have atmos I will be posting a videos soon just installed 4 ceiling speakers 🔈
@deeteepeafore
5 жыл бұрын
@@SoundGuy-vn3kl thanks for replying. I'm looking forward to the video
@SoundGuy-vn3kl
5 жыл бұрын
deeteepeafore thanks
@JasonLeaman
5 жыл бұрын
You would think they would put ain a PWM controller for the fans.. :(
@SoundGuy-vn3kl
5 жыл бұрын
Mr Dashpuppy lol yep that’s true just clueless these people
@adanjuarezjr5135
2 жыл бұрын
Watch Christian Tutoriales here on KZitem for his thoughts on it
@gabrielantonioperezmunoz3148
5 жыл бұрын
which of the two heats less I see the sinbosen more more robust
@SoundGuy-vn3kl
5 жыл бұрын
Gabriel Antonio Perez Muñoz I have not tried the sinbosen yet but I think it might run cooler I will be doing another video with fp14000 sanway and fp14000 sinbosen soon but yes the sinbosen looks more robust for sure
@gabrielantonioperezmunoz3148
5 жыл бұрын
which of the two is better
@SoundGuy-vn3kl
5 жыл бұрын
Gabriel Antonio Perez Muñoz that’s a tuff choice they both sound the same I would have to put them through a torture test to really see the difference if there is any difference do you have some of them your self
@samuelaubrey2612
5 жыл бұрын
@@SoundGuy-vn3kl how to do they compare to real Labs? I'm putting together my first system and considering going with one of these brands to power my subwoofers
@SoundGuy-vn3kl
5 жыл бұрын
Samuel Aubrey to be honest with you they are the same sounding amplifier everything is the same I did multiple tests with the real ones on the fake ones there is no difference in sound
@K-Effect
5 жыл бұрын
Where did you purchase these amplifiers from/website? I would like to know so I can purchase them myself, I enjoyed the video thank you.
@SoundGuy-vn3kl
5 жыл бұрын
Kevin Guthrie thank you for watching the video just go straight to the website and order from there or Alibaba.com
@t3rr1ble
4 жыл бұрын
Kevin Guthrie US $602.00 | AMPLIFICADOR DE POTENCIA dj 2000w clase td línea de 4 canales Array DS-10Q sonido aoue audio de escenario profesional a.aliexpress.com/k91kgf7i
@victorpluche921
5 жыл бұрын
You should plug them to some speakers
@SoundGuy-vn3kl
5 жыл бұрын
Victor Estrada yes I will try to post a video with the amplifiers working
@TheMessenger212
5 жыл бұрын
How much were they??? And from where???
@gouveamaquinasefachadurasf4035
4 жыл бұрын
vc tem o numero da saida pra mepassar
@navinsingh1918
5 жыл бұрын
Nice bro where you located in the us of yes I will buy some from you cause I cannot trust an put my card on the net lol
@SoundGuy-vn3kl
5 жыл бұрын
navin singh thanks bro I am located in Ontario Canada
@navinsingh1918
5 жыл бұрын
SoundGuy0000 is their anyway you can contact me an I’ll purchase two from you my number is 201-589-7044 I live in Brooklyn ny
@SoundGuy-vn3kl
5 жыл бұрын
I just called you
@kevonmanuel
5 жыл бұрын
I'm surprised these two companies haven't been sued by LabGruppen?
@SoundGuy-vn3kl
5 жыл бұрын
NewYorkBlack lmfao that’s so true
@erikbritz8095
5 жыл бұрын
they shouldn't be korean amps are virtually the same but the brands don't sue each other so why would Lab also Lab knows the guys who can afford buys their products in a heartbeat those who can't run the clones or even lower brands this doesn't hurt their market one bit as these clone brands generally are not as popular as lab so yeah...
@AB-80X
5 жыл бұрын
@@erikbritz8095 Problem is that these amps will get out into the used market, where the originals are actually selling for an affordable price. These assholes ruin the industry.
@AB-80X
5 жыл бұрын
@Have_At_IT Unfortunately yes.
@lawbadman
5 жыл бұрын
@@AB-80X no real pro audio guy is going to run a China clone amplifier for shows. Professionals will spend the money for the real deal...
@vzbeatz1706
5 жыл бұрын
i have a few question about these amps is there an email or number i can contact?
@SoundGuy-vn3kl
5 жыл бұрын
Vz Beatz The best thing for you to do is message Sinbosen just go online and you’ll find the link
@vzbeatz1706
5 жыл бұрын
@@SoundGuy-vn3kl thanx bro i appreciate it
@vzbeatz1706
5 жыл бұрын
which one u believe is more reliable Sinbosen or the other one?
@TheMessenger212
4 жыл бұрын
@@vzbeatz1706 I want to know the same thing did you ever get one???
@vzbeatz1706
4 жыл бұрын
Only on facebook
@John48778
3 жыл бұрын
Dyno
@carlosmanuelbaldelomarsand8573
4 жыл бұрын
Creo que es mejor sanway
@derkchurk5879
2 жыл бұрын
Better to buy the real thing then a clone with shabby parts, you get what you pay for when it comes to professional amplifiers... Wouldn't ever trust one of these in a important situation...
@SoundGuy-vn3kl
2 жыл бұрын
Yep I agree 💯
@gabrieleasterling3059
2 жыл бұрын
L
@Campbell1.
5 жыл бұрын
cant hear anything
@SoundGuy-vn3kl
5 жыл бұрын
Campbell Hicks what do you mean
@Campbell1.
5 жыл бұрын
@@SoundGuy-vn3kl volume is right up and can barely hear you :)
@SoundGuy-vn3kl
5 жыл бұрын
Campbell Hicks That’s impossible there might be something wrong with the device that you’re watching it from You were the first person to say that they cannot hear me
@sarahconner9433
2 жыл бұрын
Where's the speaker and voltmeter?!(!?.. You really compared nothing!!!!!!.... Please bro try it again use music. use a speaker. use a voltmeter and your ears for clean music and give us some voltmeter readings!!
@lapavoni5579
Жыл бұрын
Can’t stand any copy pro equipment. Go think of your own ideas
@alaskaaudioguy35
4 жыл бұрын
I wouldn’t buy any
@mattmoreira210
2 жыл бұрын
There is NO clone. There are COUNTERFEIT UNITS.
@jd5787
Жыл бұрын
No... Counterfeiting is also putting the brand name in it. These units are all different from the original
@AB-80X
4 жыл бұрын
To anybody watching this. The reliability and sound quality of these copies are far from that of the Lab amps. If a venue pay you to do a good production, you should honour that by providing them with reliable high quality gear. I would say that anybody whi's doing something professional with these, are robbing and conning their clients. Personally I hope karma will be a bitch and that the use of such a product like this, will cause major system damage and eventually put any pro user of this garbage out of business. Shame on you for using it and promoting it.
@babatunda1849
4 жыл бұрын
These are dog shit compared to a real lab 😂
@cipisound
4 жыл бұрын
how many things are made in Sweden? UK? USA? maybe iphone? Void? Danley? LabGruppen? I believe that you can order anything from China, pay 25% of the price because in EUROPE or USA, there is some rich people with fancy cars and fancy houses ...with huge costs, expensive champagne and deluxe bitches.... and the price for the "brand" pro are going to the "pleasure" ... how much? 75%... Mercedes fall and fails, spit all the traditions, make cars components in Romania, WAKE up!!!! Mackie fall and fails!!! EV fall and fails!!! and so on...I want to buy a macbook pro...is made in China... I want to buy ECLER ...same China... I am not chinesse, but I can't eat rich thieves and neither politicians who are their friends by giving laws for them, against people that works... In China a product is build with $130, in Romania is selling with $360 !!! HELLLOOOOO the guy who work take 130 and the rich-smart guy take 230????? and say it is original "pro" product? really? c'mon why? because the store rent is expensive? who establish the high price? why not to buy online at 130? I must "send" my money "in" the rich fat smart guys that own expensive buildings? hell noooo
@TheMessenger212
4 жыл бұрын
@@cipisound I COMPLETELY AGREE WITH YOU 👍
@TheMessenger212
4 жыл бұрын
@@babatunda1849 not really they are pretty good I'm looking to buy 4
@youtubegarbage7876
Жыл бұрын
"There IS 12 caps...5 fans..." Ever heard of the word 'are'? "more thicker"? - are you not an native English speaker? I mean, maybe you're not...I hope you're not.
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