READ ME BEFORE COMMENTING hey everyone, I’m adding this right here for people who keep asking about the longer videos. I decided I’m gonna just make longer videos when I feel the topic warrants it. Don’t wanna force anything for the sake of video length.
@revidove
2 жыл бұрын
Love your content!!
@kierralovestv
2 жыл бұрын
@@revidove hii thank you 😊
@cecex4545
2 жыл бұрын
I appreciate shorter videos, because I'll often be like "oh I'll let myself watch a 15 min video before I go to sleep" but then they're all so long :(
@ashleydobson1532
Жыл бұрын
WHERE HAS YOUR CHANNEL BEEN?! AHHH SO HAPPY I AM HERE.... I know these people in my life too. My mom is Lorelai Gilmore. Lane is one of my favorite characters and I agree she is so underrated
@just.a.bit.fruity6297
2 жыл бұрын
I’m still upset about where Lane ended up. I just feel like her character deserved so much better 😭
@kierralovestv
2 жыл бұрын
!!!
@isabellacecil8810
2 жыл бұрын
Like they didn’t give us a good wedding for Luke and Lorelai, Rory didn’t get a good ending, and Lane! At least give us a good ending with Lanes character!!
@just.a.bit.fruity6297
2 жыл бұрын
@@isabellacecil8810 EXACTLY!!
@soygabbyok
2 жыл бұрын
@@isabellacecil8810 exactlyyy!!! like how are they going to end it with “im pregnant” 😭
@lauriecarson6483
2 жыл бұрын
@@isabellacecil8810 I thought Lorelai ans Lukes wedding was great. They didn't alot of people with then and it small and intimate
@tibitaylor
2 жыл бұрын
"Rory is Christopher" is a genius observation. However, it was so jarring to see in the revival. The girl who had to have specific color highlighters and did all her reading in advance was also the girl who wasn't prepared to talk about ideas at a job interview and couldn't remember her own boyfriend? Oy with the poodles!
@kierralovestv
2 жыл бұрын
Ahhhhh u said the thing (idk why that made me excited lmao) & exactly! This is why everyone is thrown off guard by her sudden character change I think the writers wanted to shock us but like the hamster in that Drake & Josh episode we were stunned and not in the good way
@michellecollinsgalaviz2126
2 жыл бұрын
But the reason Rory was so unstable in AYITL is because 1. Her whole life she based her worth on her grades in school and how good a student she was, and 2. Her life plans no longer served her because of how rigid they were, she failed to foresee (like everyone alive) that she herself would change through the years and didn’t have the flexibility to say, “maybe journalism isn’t it anymore, let me see where I can keep writing for a living”. In my opinion Christopher is just selfish, which is a trait that Rory shares, and perhaps that is what makes them similar, but Rory was always more responsible than Chris. I always thought Rory was more like a young Emily that was willing to sacrifice many things for comfort and the “finer things in life” but ultimately figured out that this sort of hollow, banal life is not enough for her (much like Emily did in AYITL when she had to figure out who she was now that she wasn’t serving the role of wife any longer).
@alexaf2744
2 жыл бұрын
Oy with the poodles!
@lauriecarson6483
2 жыл бұрын
@@michellecollinsgalaviz2126 so what
@yuzan3607
2 жыл бұрын
@@michellecollinsgalaviz2126 "Rory was more like a young Emily " yea yea exactly, I also agree. I think Rory was somehow ready to be "the wife" of Logan, I think she would've liked that life. But because she is the daughter of Lorelei who despises that life (and also the disapproval of Logan's family of her), it in a way pushed her away from it, she didn't want to be "that woman" in her mother's eyes. So instead, she ended up "lost", neither here nor there.
@user-mh7db7ei1s
2 жыл бұрын
I sustain that Lane and Paris were the best characters. Maybe it’s because I’m biased since Lane is extremely similar to my best friend and I see a lot of myself in Paris. Or maybe it’s because they were offered complexity and depth and were allowed to be flawed, whereas it seems like they tried too hard to make Rory “perfect.”
@kierralovestv
2 жыл бұрын
I loveee Lane and Paris and totally agree
@millybartholomew2380
2 жыл бұрын
Same, I couldn't agree more! Would have loved to see more of them throughout the show.
@lauriecarson6483
2 жыл бұрын
@@millybartholomew2380 bunch of Karen's
@diabloakland
2 жыл бұрын
@@lauriecarson6483 rory is the biggest Karen
@iiamromika
Жыл бұрын
you see a lot of yourself in paris?? 💀💀
@ameliecarre4783
2 жыл бұрын
There's an episode called "will you be my Lorelai Gilmore ?", where Lane tells Rory how important Lorelai has been for her growing up, and she asks Rory to be her babies' godmother, in the hope that they too will have their own Lorelai Gilmore to rely on growing up. So yeah, you're on to something here.
@kierralovestv
2 жыл бұрын
I totally meant to include this episode! Ik exactly which one you’re talking about 💕
@ennuiblue4295
2 жыл бұрын
I was hoping Emily's sister 'Sweety' was going to make an appearance. It was disappointing we didn't get to see a side of Emily who had history with a person, but one she was comfortable and happy with ☹
@ennuiblue4295
2 жыл бұрын
Wait Sweety was her friend who died... well whoever that was they said was her expatriate relative
@diabloakland
2 жыл бұрын
Which is wild bc rory is so selfish she hasn’t even been there for her god kids
@kellylappin5944
Жыл бұрын
Emily’s sister’s name was Hopi.
@crimismimisteehee
2 жыл бұрын
i think the people who claim that the characters in gilmore girls "aren't real" are probably not in any sort of community because i know so many people in my city (hell, even my neighborhood) who are carbon copies of each character.
@kierralovestv
2 жыл бұрын
ME TOO. I thought I was alone
@rachellemckeown3332
2 жыл бұрын
Right? Who are these people and why do they lead such boring lives?
@ginathecookie
2 жыл бұрын
Im a hermit, I don't get out much I know at least one like that and even I'd I didnt I wouldn't claim it's not realistic
@stephanieceballos6078
2 жыл бұрын
sadly i don’t know people like this so that’s why i didn’t find the characters realistic
@jyutzler
2 жыл бұрын
I've never met a single character who in any way resembles any of the main characters. They're all caricatures. From my perspective, it's a type of fantasy, that if such a place existed, this is the type of people who could populate it and this is what could happen to them.
@elizastaniszewska3894
2 жыл бұрын
id like to point out that just like christopher to lorelai, rory was sometimes very absent in lane's life, chris was avoiding lorelai and rory was too self-centered to focus or even listen about lane's problems
@kierralovestv
2 жыл бұрын
YES. I forgot about this too
@allie6160
2 жыл бұрын
Yeah! Both Lorelai and Lane had to deal with a lot of real shit as a result of decisions that they made. They didn't have an easy way out, so they were forced to grow up fast. However, both Christopher and Rory were protected from facing the real consequences of their actions and end up very self-centered. We see from Christopher that it's still possible to have that growth later in life. I can only hope that Rory gets there eventually.
@CarlosCooksChi
Жыл бұрын
Mrs. Kim showed the most growth of anyone on the show and she did it for Lane. She deserves her flowers
@T_Cup
2 жыл бұрын
It's always struck me how the Asian best friend/sidekick in TV shows and movies is almost always more interesting or likeable than their best friend, and should really be the main character, Lane included. This opinion was further solidified after reading an article called "The Rise Of The Asian Best Friend (And Why It's Not The Representation You Think)", which is long, but definitely worth the read. It just sucks that they never seem to get a satisfying ending no matter which character it is, not even today
@anitawithag
2 жыл бұрын
Great article, thank you
@T_Cup
2 жыл бұрын
@@anitawithag Welcome, glad you enjoyed it.
@lianserene
2 жыл бұрын
If you know the Myers Briggs, I think Rory is ISxJ. Meaning she is good with accumulating facts, but isn’t good with out of the box ideas or processing those facts into something new. Logan’s father may have called it right. She wasn’t right for investigative journalism. She could write a book about her life with her mother because it was relaying info about something that she had experienced. Without someone directing her, she was indecisive.
@lianserene
2 жыл бұрын
Absolutely. Have you seen Perfect Score? The Asian guy stole that movie. Sorry, I wouldn’t call him the Asian guy, but I can’t remember the character or actor’s name. That in the end he was a flighty genius? LOVE IT.
@lianserene
2 жыл бұрын
Sorry. I think this comment got attached to the wrong comment. This was a response to Rory didn’t get her act together. Why is she wandering
@lygophilia4127
2 жыл бұрын
Lane's dad's brief and insignificant appearance was a joke--an intended joke. He was spoken of in the show like he was around, but we never saw him. So it was kind of like a "he DOES exist!" moment. Giving him more airtime than that wouldn't have made sense for the joke nor the fact that they felt his presence wasn't important for the entirety of the original show.
@kierralovestv
2 жыл бұрын
Ohhhh okay I can definitely see that.
@somethingbambi875
2 жыл бұрын
I must research because I can't remember they ever mention him. I just thought he was dead or out the picture. I didn't get it.
@lygophilia4127
2 жыл бұрын
@@somethingbambi875 I just pulled this from a wiki fandom, since I couldn't remember the exact mentions. There might be more: "Mr. Kim, is never seen in the original series. Lane does, however, specifically refer to her father when her parents plan to send her to Korea indefinitely in season 2, and Mrs. Kim mentions him briefly when reminiscing about her wedding night in season 6."
@Marshallfamily.
2 жыл бұрын
Right he wasn't at his own daughters wedding and he shows up in revival weird
@lygophilia4127
2 жыл бұрын
@@Marshallfamily. I assumed he was there but not pointed out as Lane's dad.
@charoraimondogarcia
2 жыл бұрын
Lane is hands down the best character of the show (apart for Loelai). She carries the show in her showlders since Rory fall of grace (since Yale). They did her dirty with the final and the revival. And making her end up with Zac, what a dense guy. Also Emily has a narcissistic personality, Miss Kim is just conservative. Wow, Rory IS Christopher, I never though that. I really like your takes (also agree, Logan is the wors with Rory, he brings the worst of her), the deep dive. Everytime I rewatch it with my mom we rant for ever about these things
@kierralovestv
2 жыл бұрын
Thank youu!
@VioletEmerald
2 жыл бұрын
Yes to all of this! Every single point you make.
@carolina482
2 жыл бұрын
I agree, only that a liked that Zac ended up with Lane, but they should have put more about her in the revival. And I hate Logan, he is the worst. Rory would have been better off with Jess, Martin, or the professor she blushed for.
@charoraimondogarcia
2 жыл бұрын
@@carolina482 But Dave Ragalsky, he was the man made of dreams, soooo perfect for Lane. I ended up kinda hate loving Zac, but he was not Lane's end game. Jess was the only one who made Rory grow and question herself, and the only of her romantic partners that grow and mature. He really knows her, not the Rory she shows (Logan knows that) but the deep parts. He loves Rory, not the idea of Rory
@carolina482
2 жыл бұрын
@@charoraimondogarcia I agree, they completely forgot about Dave
@dixiejeannine6163
2 жыл бұрын
yeah i've always thought it was crazy, in the first season lane mentions her "parents" but you literally never see her father, even after lane moves out and sneaks into her mom's bedroom, her dad is not there in the bed.
@kierralovestv
2 жыл бұрын
!!!!
@meghansullivan6812
2 жыл бұрын
Yes omg mrs. Kim sleeping alone always made me !!!???
@soygabbyok
2 жыл бұрын
righttttt! we only see him once but if i remember correctly he doesn’t even speak
@somethingbambi875
2 жыл бұрын
I always thought he was just dead or something but thought it was weird they never ever mention him. So it was very very strange he suddenly appears, they shouldn't have done that. For someone who just had my mother, it was relateble. Same with Christopher when I realized they had a connection, it is fine, but why can't it be like I had it, just my mom, and a father living nearby but we almost never met and were like strangers, it happens. Now we know each other though.
@dixiejeannine6163
2 жыл бұрын
@@somethingbambi875 what about luke and april?
@surge3562
Жыл бұрын
i feel like another parallel for Lorelai’s backstory (in her teen years) is actually Jess Mariano. he was kind of a screw up in his teenage years, like Lorelai. then Jess went off on his own to California, like Lorelai running off to Stars Hollow with Rory. then, over the years, they’ve grown and matured into adults who seem to have it all figured out, but there’s always the one that got away (Rory/Christopher). it also helps to explain why Lorelai hated Jess when they first met; Lorelai used to be Jess when she was a teenager, and she didn’t want someone like that bringing Rory down. there’s a video on youtube, i forget which one exactly, but it highlights more of the parallels between Jess and Lorelai and i love their parallels.
@eleanora1059
7 күн бұрын
this is a brilliant observation
@ladywiththelantern
2 жыл бұрын
I agree that Lane and Lorelai are very similar. The idea that Rory is Christopher makes SO MUCH SENSE! That explains so much. I'm interested to hear your other opinions. 🙂
@lauriecarson6483
2 жыл бұрын
How is Rory like Chris. Please explain to me.
@amycrebs1346
2 жыл бұрын
I like the observation that Lane's upbringing is a precursor/ near mirror to Loreli's because it makes both Lane and Lorelei more relatable. when lorelai and other characters talk about lorelai as a teenager they talk about her as being a total wild child. when we look at lane's, who is much more reserved, upbringing, we realize that the observation of her being out of control is just a continued projection of her parent onto her and others, because the parent's control makes it so the kids can't actually "rebel" in a really significant way, just in their forms of expression/doing things (often considered unacceptable or taboo by the parents), just like Emily and Lorelei. Lane is a polite, well behaved, often scared kid who just has interests and dreams. It makes me wonder about Lorelai's upbringing and if she was more like Lane in that way. Maybe she was truly "wild and uncontrollable," or maybe she has just claimed that narrative as her parents and peers pushed that belief onto her.
@kierralovestv
2 жыл бұрын
I think it’s the second thing. I don’t think Lorelai was just out of control maybe just a slightly more hyper version bc she’d be a teenager. I think in the eyes of her parents she was doing things normal teenagers do but it wasn’t normal to them. From their perspective it probably WAS wild and crazy bc they’d never been exposed to individualistic behavior like the kind that Lorelai shows. Anything new and different to some people is always gonna seem scary. People generally don’t like changes
@sparklyunicorn5431
2 жыл бұрын
Rory definitely became Christopher. Complete character transformation as she started out as the opposite.
@lauriecarson6483
2 жыл бұрын
Oh bull crap.
@kawaiimatilda
Жыл бұрын
@@lauriecarson6483 Rory stan detected
@carmenlove7839
2 жыл бұрын
i feel like lane having her own show would be awesome. her life is so interesting
@adelinaayulestari2795
2 жыл бұрын
omg, i never thought about the connection between lane and Lorelai before! love ur video! :)
@kierralovestv
2 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@bonniedoeswhat795
2 жыл бұрын
Your Christopher theory has blown my mind!!! Ah! As for video length, I’d say that you should make your videos long enough to explain your ideas on whatever topic that you choose and not be too concerned with the length. Then again, what do I know? You did a great job with this and I’m going to be thinking about it.
@kierralovestv
2 жыл бұрын
Thank you! 🥰🥰
@heatherhaven1268
Жыл бұрын
I want a backstory for Mrs. Kim. She’s one of the most interesting characters.
@margareth5501
2 жыл бұрын
Emily’s control is fueled by her need to keep up appearances. Emily needs to control how she appears to society.
@mirandabullard4809
2 жыл бұрын
I could see her change in the revival giving up the DAR society thing and just moving away.
@inthought02
2 жыл бұрын
Lane is actually inspired by Helen Pai, who is Amy Sherman-Palladino's long-time friend and I /think/ was also her editor when the show was first conceived. Helen Pai from what I know is also Korean, and she was the main consultant behind the scenes where Mrs Kim and Lane spoke Korean from what I remember, since the actress who plays Mrs Kim isn't Korean. And fun fact: Dave on the show is also inspired by Helen's real-life husband who is also named Dave and whose last name is almost identical to show-Dave's last name as well. Lane's band is even inspired by Helen Pai's name I think: Helen Pai -> Hemp Alien. And yeah from what I know aside from Helen Pai, I don't think that anyone else was consulted about how Lane and her family are written on the show, but I also don't think that there were even that many other writers on Gilmore Girls aside from Amy and Daniel Palladino until they both didn't renew their contract with the WB and a new showrunner and new writers were brought in. Often times the show itself suffers from a lack of other writers or input which I feel like you can definitely notice in how AYITL was made, especially in some of the very tone-deaf jokes made in it. And random sidenote but while Lane's ending storyline in season 7 is badly put together, from what I've come to understand, this was not the idea that Amy originally had for her. Though Lane's season 6 ending wasn't as promising either, and Zach as a boyfriend for her felt more random overall and just her needing to be put with another guy that her mother doesn't initially approve of rather than having someone who was at least more deserving of her as Dave was! And lastly, I get what you mean about Rory representing Christopher through her life in the revival but I also /kind/ of think that her life isn't technically going to end up like his because of her pregnancy reveal by the end. Christopher did wander and hop around jobs and was just very aimless and overall fine with it, but Rory in the revival obviously struggles with the hopping around and though she also just seems to lack the drive to get a stable job for herself, still goes back to the place that is "always there for her", aka her mom and Stars Hollow. And while I really hate the trope of a female character becoming a mother in order to "find her purpose in life", I feel like that's what the whole thing with the full-circle storyline and her getting pregnant at the end is supposed to be. So technically at first glance she does resemble Christopher, but if she keeps her kid, she most likely won't have the long-term freedom that Christopher had even as he got older. Because yeah, Christopher ended up also having another kid with Sherry but he also didn't exactly do much in raising her...
@kierralovestv
2 жыл бұрын
Oh wow I never heard this about Lane’s character, and I agree!
@VioletEmerald
2 жыл бұрын
Disagree with your Christopher points but yes to all the Lane stuff.
@lauravsthepage
2 жыл бұрын
I donno about not being able to wander as long as Christopher… Revival Rory is Christopher’s age in season 1. Yeah he might have a couple more wandering years on her before becoming Gigi’s full time dad but hardly enough to say their characters are different especially since we haven’t gotten to see what kind of parent Rory would be. Personally I suspect that Rory’s baby would be Lorelai and Luke’s responsibility in a big way quite often.
@inthought02
2 жыл бұрын
@@lauravsthepage that's not what's implied through her conversation with Christopher in the revival though. Yes, she did wander, but in comparison to Christopher even in season 1, she wasn't fine with it and it was obvious that she was suffering through burnout rather than wanting to wander around the world. The fact that she's even hinted at keeping the baby is significant because it wasn't Christopher's direct choice for either Rory or Gigi to be born, it was their respective mothers'. If the show wanted to imply that Rory's kid will be Lorelai and Luke's responsibility, there likely never would've been a conversation with Rory and Christopher where it's implied that she'll take responsibility in raising her kid just like her mom did.
@lauriecarson6483
2 жыл бұрын
@@lauravsthepage no it would be Rory responsibility. I hope they make another season and Rory is a good mom to shut up all the Rory haters. And I think Logan is like Chris he won't be involved on the baby life.
@kodamaskill5351
2 жыл бұрын
I think it’s interesting that the show always comes back to try and explain, you can never fully run away from your family or your past. Hence Lane working with her mom again after so much push back. Lorelei attempted a relationship with her parents for her daughter. Rory following habits that were displayed in both her parents. Shows like Gilmore girls and one tree hill always prove to me how you treat kids matters, even well into adult hood and shapes a lot of who you are. It’s very much so nature thru nurture. Lane was around a mother like Lorelei who showed her that fun side but inevitably the biological side of things (her mom’s disapproval) shows a different side of things that she falls back on. We want the approval of our parents. We want to be loved. And how we grow up effects all of that.
@kierralovestv
2 жыл бұрын
!!!
@bsommervold
2 жыл бұрын
I completely agree the show is realistic camp The character interactions are real for the most part but the circumstances are camp A single mother and her daughter: VERY real Stars Hallow a very campy small (almost cult like town) The citizens behave like real people with the occasional campy eccentricity
@kierralovestv
2 жыл бұрын
And I live for every minute of it.
@kellylappin5944
Жыл бұрын
Lane loves Zach, and persued him. They have a loving home with their sons, and fun playing music together.
@jeannemilne3150
2 жыл бұрын
I think Emily wanted Loreli to be a carbon copy of herself. I think she did lighten up somewhat over the years, although she never could accept or understand Loreli's free spirit.
@lauranolastnamegiven3385
2 жыл бұрын
and, as much as she loved Rory, of course, I don't think she ever forgave Lorelei for getting pregnant so young, or, at least, for not marrying Christopher right then, and then that she took Rory & left
@CraigFine
2 жыл бұрын
As a 56 year old father who watched the original series every week with my daughter, and I have shared the series with so many people. Thank you for doing this and I will subscribe. 😎
@mikak1765
2 жыл бұрын
i disagree that mrs kim listens to lane and takes what she has to say into account. she says several times that parents can’t trust their children and that they have to do what is right regardless of how their children feel. but the key difference between emily and mrs kim is that mrs kim grew up in the same household as lane with a mother that didn’t understand her religion or understand her. she also can be swayed by logic or dedication like with dave and zach. so she was able to save her relationship with lane. emily grew up in a world where children listen to their parents and it worked out for her. she also has that “my way or the highway” attitude regardless of the situation.
@kierralovestv
2 жыл бұрын
I meant in the future she does when Lane is older. I’ll try to be clearer next time but I do agree with some of these points !!
@Imokayluv
2 жыл бұрын
Tbh i 100% agree that with children and teens especially, parents need to be protective and make decisions based on their adult experiences. Especially those of minorities,. The US does not care much for non-white immigrants, doesn’t matter whether they go missing or is dead. It’s the hard truth. Mrs. Kim did what she had to do in a foreign land
@jessicabatson8924
Жыл бұрын
Most of the irritation of watching gilmore girls was how nothing ever gets solved. You have episode where emily and lorelai find common ground and then the very next scene/episode it goes back to the previous pattern. Also rory is so christopher! Shes completely selfish and unaccountable for her flaws. Im also annoyed with how luke and lorelai just got messed the whole series. Lets be real lorelai repeats bad patterns over and over and by the end luke totally becomes a simp. In the beginning her put up more of a fight in defense of himself and then totally back tracks.
@TsukiNoInu93
10 ай бұрын
Honestly that made it more realistic for me, a lot of reactions sadly have this and it takes a long time and work on both sides to break a cycle or pattern
@Ashely56
2 жыл бұрын
Lane was one of my favorite characters too and felt upset that she was stuck with the other guy from her band and that they band wasn't as successful as they wanted it to be, but i was also happy to see that she was happy and a kick ass mom like Lorieli
@bgeese1918
2 жыл бұрын
I havent watched the video yet but holy shit you’re so right! it’s painful/frustrating watching how she was treated, especially as someone who is Asian. And sure i get it, it’s early 2000s and white writers but nonetheless this show being iconic and watched by lots of ppl and getting away with it is what is just…ugh. And omg i love emily because she reminds me of my grandma (in the positive and negative ways) but honestly ms.kim is much better. (im listening to the video playing while im typing this lmao so yeah) but omg yeah like lane’s story being a prequel is accurate and as i am typing this im just listening to the video, all the points being made were on point! an amazing video! (And lmao yeah it’s kinda like rory doesn’t realize she’s more like christopher and wants to be like lorelai/mimic her mostly) and yeah lane deserves so much better writing!
@kierralovestv
2 жыл бұрын
Definitely hope they harp on diversity more if they bring the show back again.
@sanx189
2 жыл бұрын
I though it was pretty clear that Rory was a wannabe Lorelai, and she never grows out of it and regressed to being flaky like Christopher. The same as how she doesn't acknowledge her priviliged background, and acts as if she's different from other trust fund kids. As for Mrs.Kim she was never shown to be manipulative like Emily. I don't think the writing was bad but non-Asians perception of Mrs. Kim being a strict parent out of protection may be overlooked by the audience. The only thing that bugs people the most is Lane's outcome.
@jyutzler
2 жыл бұрын
All I can say is that writing stuff that stands the test of time is really hard. No show has come close to accomplishing what this show has but despite all the brilliance, there are plenty of things about it that don't hold up.
@leannayovanov4490
2 жыл бұрын
Ughhhh this just reminds me of a argument I had on tik tok about how apparently Lorelai is a very toxic mother and she did Rory so wrong, and it just made me so mad. SO hearing someone say she was a good mother and broke the cycle makes my heart happy. Yeah she made mistakes but she was far from toxic. The only characters that I could remotely see that title for are possibly Emily and Richard's grandma, and sometimes Jess. But they all pointed out the fact of Rory running to Emily when she stole the boat. Like first of all neither one of those things really had anything to do with Lorelai's parenting. It was Logan's influence (and they all argued it was Rory's idea, but who took her there, who put ideas like that in her head, her actually let her go through with it, who had the experience of doing similar things, Logan did) and Rory was scared and she knew her grandma would do anything for her. She thought that was the best option for her at the time. She was a great mother based on what she made for herself and how well she took care of Rory. And just because her and Rory was close doesn't mean she treated her like a friend. What people don't understand is Rory never did anything enough that needed "mama bear" so yeah as an outsider it probably seems way too friendly. But Lorelai showed disappointment in Rory and disciplined her when needed, she was just a great kid you know. sorry for the rant.
@kierralovestv
2 жыл бұрын
No you’re fine, I plan on making an entire video discussing Lorelai’s parenting bc this is something I hear often and I can’t wait bc I have so many examples and evidence that’ll hopefully put this debate to rest.
@lauriecarson6483
2 жыл бұрын
You are so wrong.
@grace13579
2 жыл бұрын
I don’t think she was a bad mother but I think she tried to be Rory’s freind and live vicariously though her a little to much
@activatedcharcoal
2 жыл бұрын
You're so right! It's incredibly challenging to be a parent to an anxious but self-disciplined kid. Lorelai rarely had the opportunity to take off the "friend" hat and put on her "parent" one, because Rory chose to stay within all of the boundaries most parents have to enforce. When people say that L was too much of a friend to R, I'm always like "Where are all these instances of times L failed to guide or discipline her?" Making a couple of mistakes just isn't the same as being a bad parent.
@JLynn72788
2 жыл бұрын
Kirk is one of my favorites lol he's so animated 😂
@kierralovestv
2 жыл бұрын
Right
@sistersgrimm9408
2 жыл бұрын
You know what should have happened with Lane, when all the teens were applying for colleges and mrs Kim applied to 7th day adventist college on behalf of Lane, why the hell didn’t stars hollow high guidance councillor sit down with Lane and help her to apply to some colleges away from stars hollow?! I know Lane loved her music but she was also highly organised with great time management skills and a passion for discovering unknown artists, I see her as more of a music producer given her advanced knowledge and love of so many bands. The episode where Lane has her aptitude test and it comes back with sales, could that have translated into something to do with the scouting of bands, and then producing and selling the albums for a label? I know mrs Kim would probably not fund a ‘’progressive’’ music school but let’s not forget about scholarships and also the fact that Lane was a grafter when passionate about something, I think she would have definitely paid her way through college with a couple jobs. Yes becoming a rockstar might have been too far fetched, but someone with Lane’s determination, passion, organisation and attention to detail could have hacked a more ‘feet on the ground’ corporate role in the industry. Don’t get me started on the Zack storyline…if there’s more to come from Gilmore girls, I hope we see Lane running an indie record label with the help of Hep Alien.
@simpelwitch8656
2 жыл бұрын
I love Gilmore girls because they have moments of fun but they also know how to be real and raw and make people think, I don't think this show could be just one it wouldn't work
@christinamurcia
2 жыл бұрын
I love your unique commentary. You made me realize a lot of the themes in the show!!
@kierralovestv
2 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@jamesoconnor5467
2 жыл бұрын
I love this Lane as Lorelai, Rory as Christopher theory! I totally see it.
@aimeeguzman6758
2 жыл бұрын
So here's what I think about how Lane turned out. I think her and Zach are running the secret bar in Stars Hallow. Think about it. She can do the mom thing and still be her rockin' self playing music and still hiding and revelling like her character always did. It fits perfectly!
@kierralovestv
2 жыл бұрын
Wait this makes sense
@aimeeguzman6758
2 жыл бұрын
@@kierralovestv right? It fits Lane so well! They were playing at the bar, I think Lane and Zach run it.
@melissap.6271
2 жыл бұрын
Hmm. I never really thought about Rory ended up like Christopher when it comes to being indecisive and job hopping. Very insightful!
@isabellouis3833
2 жыл бұрын
It's like you were reading my mind. Also, you gave me some different perspective on some characters and it totally makes sense to me. I can't agree more!!!
@kierralovestv
2 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@Sama-yd4cl
2 жыл бұрын
This is the first time I've heard this theory and WOW! My mind is blown. It is spot on. They are both so hardworking too. & Rory IS Christopher as an adult. It's funny how she became the parent that did not raise her. Maybe she emulated him as a way of keeping his presence in her life.
@anitawithag
2 жыл бұрын
Hello! I’m new, thank you for making these! I’m always telling my daughter how much I feel like they totally low balled Lane. She was incredibly smart, creative, caring, thoughtful, her future should’ve been so much more. Dave was the one her story should’ve ended with, NOT Zack. And yea that happens in real life, but her character really deserved so much more than that. And to your point they could’ve had Lane move away, go to school for music, or whatever and then come back to Stars Hollow, open a recording studio, with Dave…or something like that.
@charlottereames8571
2 жыл бұрын
I completely agree! I’ve said for years that Lorelai and Lane are parallels just as much as Lane/Mrs Kim is a foil for Rory/Lorelai. And the difference between their situations is that Lorelai rebelled openly from the beginning and Emily refused to bend in any way for years. Whereas Lane cowed under the scrutiny of her mother and didn’t have the courage to stand up to her until she was much older. But when she finally did, Mrs. Kim found a way to adapt to the new dynamic and its boundaries!! That is a healthy relationship!
@eden3150
2 жыл бұрын
my head canon is that dave & lane ended up together & had a successful music career & got married in their late 20s
@giraffequeen9437
6 ай бұрын
We actually DO have some insight into how Emily was raised by her mother. In the spa episode she says something basically like "mothers arent supposed to be friends with their daughters, they are supposed to be rolemodels, thats how I was raised". I may not have worded it right, but that leads me believe Emily's mother was a perfectionist who wanted/expected Emily to be the same. I'm assuming she, like Richard, came from some money (maybe not as much or as old money which could be a reason Trix hated her) and was therefore raised to be a housewife in a wealthy household. This seems to be what she was expected to do to, she even says got a degree but was only ever in college to find a husband basically. This was likely at her own mother's influence
@karilynn5098
2 жыл бұрын
Another parallel between them is also that Lane became a young mother and had to navigate that while still figuring out who she was as a person.
@noramero2955
Жыл бұрын
These people definitely exist. They just don’t exist all at once. These are people you met throughout the years, at different homes and jobs all living in the same neighborhood.
@IssaPartay
Жыл бұрын
Rory is actually Emily when she grows up. 😂 in this essay, I will…
@KhadijaMbowe
2 жыл бұрын
No you’re right, I feel Christopher vibes from Rory
@kierralovestv
2 жыл бұрын
They also look TOO much alike. Ik it’s actors but that’s always stunned me @ how good the casting was
@ikniet5032
2 жыл бұрын
Oef, I do also definitely know people that treat others like Emily Gilmore
@sindhusanthanakrishnan5465
2 жыл бұрын
I think the comparison is spot-on! The only depressing thing about that comparison though, in light of the revival is, it almost feels like if you've repaired your relationship with your mother and have a loving and supportive partner, the same sparky, animated person loses their drive to excel and succeed in other parts of their life. I mean, that's the difference between Lorelai and Lane isn't it? Lorelai had to do many things on her own and that gave her not just the independence, but the push to excel. And if the revival is canon, Lane settled into a more mundane life since she had all the support. Oh well, that decision is not the end of the world and she chose contentment over excitement which many people today are figuring out is what they want, so it's not all bad. Also, another commenter made a comment about Rory being like Emily and I agree. I agree with this video that she is part Christopher, but also that she is part Emily. Especially a tendency for head-in-the-sand I think. Emily tells herself she's fulfilling the roles and rules of high society in exchange for privilege and thinks she's happy doing that, but realizes her potential and drive for more. Rory tells herself that her family and boyfriend just 'happen' to be rich while she herself is humble, so she Has to do high society things, but really that's a comfort spot she chose for herself. It's not wrong for a teenager to be pulled into the promise of privilege especially when it gets her fat returns, but it's like what the Nepotism babies say: privilege only gets you so far, and maybe a cushion when you fail, but ultimately you have to prove yourself. In Rory's case unfortunately, the cushion took away her drive and tolerance for discomfort. And an exalted opinion of what she 'deserved'. But the Rory-Christopher comparison you made me feel sad for Christopher in a way: if he grew up without privilege (as in, rich family), could he have shown more potential when he was younger? I remember even Emily, who wanted Lorelai to marry Christopher, not having a good opinion about him even in his thirties. He didn't have the benefit Rory had of showing potential until college and letting everyone basking in the memory of who she was. At the very minimum, Christopher would've become Dean - not bookish smart or an intellectual, but hardworking, committed, and becoming professional from a younger age.
@kierralovestv
2 жыл бұрын
This is very possible imo
@nicolegabrielle06
Жыл бұрын
you have to stop WHEN YOU SAID RORY IS CHRISTOPHER 2.0.... EVERYTHING MADE SENSE. I never thought that before and now that you mention it, it all makes so much sense. HOW DID I ONLY SEE THAT NOW?
@alixxxia
2 жыл бұрын
I absolutely love this perspective! I honestly noticed this and thought a lot about it while watching the series, and I agree on how it’s overlooked. I felt connected towards her character though I don’t exactly relate to it. I like what they did with her in the beginning (besides the stereotypes which are ehh), but as it got further I’m not a fan of what the writers had her end up. I still love her nonetheless, but they definitely could’ve done her better. Thank you for your thoughts and this video! The difference between Mrs. Kim and Emily are evident. It was nice to listen to this video!
@kierralovestv
2 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@VioletEmerald
2 жыл бұрын
Yeah i noticed it constantly. It was always an interesting parallel.
@nicolleargueta
2 жыл бұрын
5:42 like when she let lane go to the prom w the Korean guy bc at Mrs Kim eyes lane just wanted to go to prom
@unprocessed_life
2 жыл бұрын
I've heard some say that Amy wrote Lorelai from a personal place. I think she wrote Rory from a personal place. Amy's husband once said he and his wife have SOLELY found success as writers and they have no other skills to support themselves $$. RING A BELL? Rory flounders until she begins to write her biography, something that came easily.
@kierralovestv
2 жыл бұрын
This is an excellent point ty!
@louisegappa3146
2 жыл бұрын
Love this take!! Would love if you did a series on GG… im here for it!!!
@kierralovestv
2 жыл бұрын
Thank you !
@rolandocamacho632
2 жыл бұрын
It blows my mind how some people say the characters are not relatable, to be honest for me them being so like real people I've encountered through my life is one of the strongest things this show has to offer. Imo the only unreal character was Rory in the beginning of the series, she was way too perfect, and the writers decided to take her character into the complete opposite direction and that's how the fall of Rory happened, I think they took that too far haha But for real, I thought we all had Emily's in our families, or have encountered Paris like people in college., etc LOVED THE VIDEO BTW!
@kierralovestv
2 жыл бұрын
Exactly I’ve known so many Paris’ and Kirks before it’s literally just a reminder we all gotta have more compassion for each other bc we’re all looking through a limited lens. Everyone is experiencing different things bc for me, Gilmore Girls is the most relatable show I’ve ever watched and I’m not even exaggerating. Thank you for watching!
@colleenhahn7205
2 жыл бұрын
This is the first video of yours that I have seen. Longer videos? Maybe, but why why exactly? Quality vs. Quantity? I'd go with Quality Everytime. Just my humble opinion.
@amandarubio773
2 жыл бұрын
Possible solution/tip: make longer videos your standard for KZitem. Then edit your major talking points to fit your tiktok platform from the longer video. Then you can plug your KZitem channel for more in-depth analysis for those who want more.
@kierralovestv
2 жыл бұрын
I’m doing that already so yes I agree thank you for the tip!
@user-kt1me2ns1n
2 жыл бұрын
You have a such a great narration voice!
@kierralovestv
2 жыл бұрын
Tysm
@aliakapoor
Жыл бұрын
Emily does both, protect and control but the need for control is more overpowering than her need to protect. Mrs. Kim does the opposite, she's also controlling but the need to protect is overpowering. This is also a bit of a cultural difference. Emily doesn't think that Lorelai needs as much protection per se and since Mrs Kim is Korean aka Asian, her brain works differently. Mrs. Kim sure is strict but as an Asian woman, her parenting style is going to be different from an American mom's.
@urmom-yy7xg
2 жыл бұрын
loved this video! also can we talk about how lane ending up with zack was so weird? idk but i pictured lane to end up with someone like dave
@kierralovestv
2 жыл бұрын
Me too tbh & thank you!
@just.a.bit.fruity6297
2 жыл бұрын
I know right! I was honestly so upset that she ended up with Zack.. like I feel like Lane could have been with someone so much better!
@kierralovestv
2 жыл бұрын
@@just.a.bit.fruity6297 dave was PERFECT for her. And he was even better in The O.C but stilllllllll their chemistry was so great
@just.a.bit.fruity6297
2 жыл бұрын
@@kierralovestvIKR!! You are so right, they were so perfect for each other!!
@lauriecarson6483
2 жыл бұрын
Dave left the show. Why can't everyone understand that can't bring him back.
@poetaytoe
Жыл бұрын
Thank you for explaining how people like this DO exist. I was heated when another youtuber was saying that the way Mrs. Kim was portrayed was problematic and this youtuber even listed her accent as a reason why without further explanation. There are mothers, particularly Asian mothers, who are like this (e.g., my own). Mrs. Kim might be extreme for a lot of people who never met someone like her, but it doesn't mean that she doesn't exist IRL. and like you said, Mrs. Kim was extreme but she meant well and she ultimately cared about Lane being protected. Sorry for the rant. You explain things very well in general and I am now subscribed :)
@jsmith8904
2 жыл бұрын
Lane is my second favourite character, my fav is Lorelai. Longer videos would be great.
@queenofgoldenhearts
2 жыл бұрын
i love how lane was respectful but still brave to do her stuff and talk to her mom about what she wanted while i feel like it never happened with lorelai and emily since they didn’t have a relationship at all! also i think lane wasn’t so pushy or stubborn as lorelai used to be and maybe that’s what changed things for her? the more she obeyed more her mom trusted her! i love how whenever her mom tried to match her with someone she said no but when she was able to choose her own partner she did get married by choice! i’m not actually about her getting married and everything but about how it was done! what makes me mad is that her love life was kinda weird after dave left and they weren’t able to build another great relationship to her! but she was capable of doing what she wanted the way she wanted and also made her mom proud and happy because she was raised right and she understood her mom’s motivation, she is so smart and strong i’m really proud of her character and i love her a lot! she was capable to have her life without losing connection with her family and that’s beautiful!
@megan2176
2 жыл бұрын
This was fun!! Can't believe I never made that connection between Lane and Lorelai!! Makes total sense, the way Lorelai covers for Lane and wants to foster her rebellion and independence. Makes me want to watch again from the beginning with fresh eyes! 🤔😲👍😁
@kierralovestv
2 жыл бұрын
💗 so happy to hear this
@theodoesthings
Жыл бұрын
your point about rory being christopher BLEW MY MIND!! it makes her behaviour in later seasons make so much more sense like they kind of had similar stories in terms of living quite a sheltered life where nothing really went wrong for them and then suddenly something throws them off the rails and they kind of float about for twenty years lol
@simplesimply3753
2 жыл бұрын
I can’t stand Logan and Rory either but I figured he was written to be her Christopher. Also because they had to get rid of Tristen which I think was going to be Rory’s bad boy phase but the show writers had to switch. Also I loved Lane and in my head she runs off to be with Dave in California, especially after Rory dropped out of college and yelled at her.
@Hausofthenightwitch
2 жыл бұрын
I agree with how they wrote Lane’s story in A Year in the Life. I think Lane and her band deserved better. I also feel this way about Paris and Dole. One they should have made Paris a lawyer (in my opinion). And two, I hate that they made her a divorcée.
@michaelamoran6381
2 жыл бұрын
Emily acts a lot like Lorelli around her Mother in law.
@kierralovestv
2 жыл бұрын
I agree
@JaeLee_Kim
2 жыл бұрын
I think it depends on the topic for video length. For a topic like this one, it would be fine either way! I think it depends on the context
@giulianabonardi6961
2 жыл бұрын
OMG you are right! Rory IS Christopher.
@Idk-oe9tc
2 жыл бұрын
There's even that scene where Lane goes to her house and looks at her mother when she's sleeping...HER MOTHER IS SLEEPING ALONE. WHAT HAPPENED TO MR. KIM???
@oliviarose3787
2 жыл бұрын
I think they sleep in separate bedrooms
@activatedcharcoal
2 жыл бұрын
Love this analysis! My dream for Lane was that she would teach music at the high school and be the next generation version of a Ms. Patty-esque character for the town. I didn't ship them, but thought it would've been cute if she ended up with Brian and he was the one who took over the antique store. Or at least he could have managed the music store.
@KaramelC08
2 жыл бұрын
I agree with this, they could have done so much with Lane.
@AromaticSympathy
2 жыл бұрын
I love that you love talking about Gilmore Girls. I’m currently watching the series now and love the commentary you’re providing.
@Ladybug0915
2 жыл бұрын
First video of yours I’ve watched and I really liked it. I’ve watched Gilmore girls over 100 times. That is not an exaggeration. I watched it when it first came out and still watch it on repeat. I love it so much my 30th birthday was Gilmore themed. Anyway… Lane did deserve better but unpopular opinion, I don’t think she settled when it comes to marrying Zach. There was a lot of the story we didn’t see. Lane and Zach just kind of vibed with each other. They weren’t even supposed to happen. They just fell for each and nothing was forced or hidden like Lane’s other relationships. They did cut her short on the music scene though. She deserved more out of her drumming. Her turning into Mrs. Kim really wasn’t a shock considering Lane realized all the things her mom did was out of love. The baby shower scene where Lane is saying she can’t have a party after the babies were born because it was all about them and that’s what her mom did for her, was her realization. Rory was a horrible best friend to Lane. Never there when Lane needed her and would never listen to Lane’s problems. Of course we don’t know how she treated her before going to Chilton but I’d assume the same. Rory is self absorbed and the entire town feeds into it. Rory is the golden child of Stars Hallow even though Lane did the same stuff Rory did, if not more because of Mrs. Kim. All of the volunteer work and stuff Lane did as well and she never got the credit for those things. I could go on for hours about this show but I’ll be cut off shortly 😂. Great video! Subbed and going to watch the others. (Edit for errors) 😊
@caputmedusa4234
2 жыл бұрын
Long videos are a CURSE! I don't understand how anyone can stand a video longer than half an hour even if the subject is very interesting! We have lives, you know!
@kierralovestv
2 жыл бұрын
Check the comments
@danielleholzer376
2 жыл бұрын
Girl I totally agree Logan is terrible for Rory he was combined of Dean worst characteristics and Jess's worst qualities and there was born Logan.
@sur_un_nuage
2 жыл бұрын
oh my god i feel like i’ve been so dumb my entire life and i’ve just been enlightened… yeah rory is christopher so maybe she’ll end up rich in the future
@millybartholomew2380
2 жыл бұрын
Lane is one of my favorite characters, so underrated to! Loved her scenes, story and relationship with Lorelai in the first few seasons. I so wish she'd moved to LA and became a rockstar! Cliche but would have loved it, it's what she deserved. Also, as an animated person myself, gotta love her and all those characters.
@SWMJ97
2 жыл бұрын
the ending of this video was so funny skldfsldfjskj
@kierralovestv
2 жыл бұрын
I was in a silly goofy mood 💀💛
@safran9119
2 жыл бұрын
These characters definitively do exist. I find this show to be so crazily realistic -- people are flawed, dreams don't always come true, people do deserve better but end up somewhere else than planned.
@sarahsingsforchrist
2 жыл бұрын
Yep, bunny girl def symbolized younger Lorelai
@sofiablanco8052
2 жыл бұрын
So spot on!!! I remember one time someone said that Lorelai didn't like Jess because it reminded her about herself at that age and i was like maybe??? but the person that really resonates with her is Lane literally and you can see that Lorelai and her house make her feel save and she comfortable enough to go crying to her house and staying even when Rory isn't there and talk to her. As someone who has a mother like Mrs. Kim she resonates with me a lot.
@anene4914
Жыл бұрын
I totally agree with you about how realistic the characters are, these people do exist. I am from a small town myself and I have known all kinds of people, including odd ones. That's why I love this show as well since I relate.
@DaBoredEagle
Жыл бұрын
I also feel like Lane's story serves as an alternate path for Lorelai. Like, if she had a baby later in life or if Emily hadn't shamed her for being pregnant so young and was supportive like Mrs Kim. She would've stayed in Hartford and became her mother. Just a food for thought
@mumplaysthesims8396
2 жыл бұрын
They absolutely did our girl Lane a disservice with her life outcome. She should have become semi famous and end up running the music shop
@kannaanggian
2 жыл бұрын
YES LONGER VIDEOS!! ppl that want short videos can just skip
@kierralovestv
2 жыл бұрын
LMFAO 💕 hiiii I hear you I hear you ty
@snackdragonn
2 жыл бұрын
Thoughts: I loved the video! I'm definitely one of those who loves longer and deeper videos on niche topics. Honestly girl you have great ideas on Gilmore Girls and although I've watched the series several times, you seem to have a knack for finding concepts I hadn't considered. The only thing I'd say on criticism is that you seemed very worried/focused on when something messed up in your videos (like audio quality herein) and tend towards drawing attention to it. I understand -- point it out yourself so no one else can. But the consistent reminders just made it difficult for me to focus on what you were saying, and I doubt I'd have noticed the issues had you not pointed them out. Be proud of your work, girl! I love your videos!
@kierralovestv
2 жыл бұрын
Thank you! I do that because the internet has a unfortunate problem with being mean to random people for no reason just to be nitpicky or just for the sake of pointing out flaws on people. So yea, it’s about saying it so I don’t get 50 comments sayin “I liked the video but those audio issues ugh” it doesn’t really bother me personally bc I know I’m gonna update my equipment and quality of my videos as time progresses but some people get so triggered by seeing mistakes. Thank you for this comment btw! It helps to know specifically what’s working and what’s not and you were very kind about it 🤍
@snackdragonn
2 жыл бұрын
@@kierralovestv Yeah, I guess you're right. People would comment just to complain.
@sngosne
2 жыл бұрын
Honestly Lane deserves better
@alyssabell-padgett8730
2 жыл бұрын
I think you should make them as long as you want! This is a great video!!
@kierralovestv
2 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@diabloakland
2 жыл бұрын
I’ve noticed ASP writes a lot of characters with awkward or toxic mothers. Bunheads, lorelai, Lane, etc
@heartsie6604
2 жыл бұрын
Hello! First time in the comment section but I just want to say that you don’t need to overthink the length of your videos too much. Personally, I will EAT UP whatever content you make and I’m sure other feel the same way! Also, as long as you get your opinion across, the length doesn’t really matter. It could be a bite sized video or a whole buffet of opinions and we’d still be here to watch :D
@kierralovestv
2 жыл бұрын
Thank youuuu sm
@inesmendezgarcia5898
2 жыл бұрын
hey i just wanted to say that i absolutely love you for all your gilmore girls content, thank you!!
@kierralovestv
2 жыл бұрын
Thank youuu! 💗
@lauraweichman7115
Жыл бұрын
Thank you for this video! I'm currently re-watching GG and you made me realize that Lane is Lorelai's Subplot Character(it may go by different names). Basically, the subplot character is supposed to parallel the protagonist by going through similar experiences so we - the audience - get to compare their actions and results in order to gain more insight. Lorelai thrived but Lane didn't. It's the saddest thing about the show bc Lane is a wonderful character and deserved the world but for the writers it might have been unrealistic to make both characters achieve their dreams. :(
@myorangebirthdaycake
2 жыл бұрын
Rory being Christopher 🤯
@ChronicallyCassidy
2 жыл бұрын
I wish we got to see lane actually applying for those super conservative “miss Kim approved colleges” and then having to pick one and show some of what it was like for her there, instead of the band being the center and she should have ended up with the boy who did the hymns on the guitar instead of Zach. Lane also could’ve still loved music but found another passion in college. Or her mom trying to make her become a nun would be funny. Their arguments and lines are hysterical.
@reginadanielle3755
2 жыл бұрын
Lane should’ve travelled the world or became an indie bands manager not a mother after all she was too young.
@kierralovestv
2 жыл бұрын
It felt like they just said “wheel…of…future!” And just threw out any old storyline for her.I can’t say exactly what happened but it feels that way
@reginadanielle3755
2 жыл бұрын
@@kierralovestv yes it’s as if they are bored with her character that they decided to just put her in a really bad story line 😭
@urfavoritealice
2 жыл бұрын
People who say " i can't watch a show because it's not realistic" dude that's literally fiction why does it need to be realistic it's the creator's world and if in that world people or things are like that it's alright except if it's actually harmful to people if you want realism just watch a documentary
@TheOptimalLife
2 жыл бұрын
I wish they would do a Lane spin off where she starts a new life in a big city chasing after her dreams. She deserves it!
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