Damn... That's a good idea. Maybe you should join him
@floydb7483
8 ай бұрын
These two together?! That’s like apples to pears… or oranges.
@Never_unknown
8 ай бұрын
I heard he's big in Andorra
@HarryTzianakisTheGodOfSpeed
8 ай бұрын
We have enough nerds talking shit on the internet.
@BrockDonovan-fk3kl
8 ай бұрын
He should run the Uci.
@Selfrighteouscyclist
8 ай бұрын
Broe it’s time to cut to the chase. Get Jesse to coach you and create another vlog series to document your progress.
@ChrisMillerCycling
8 ай бұрын
I second that
@craigg9742
8 ай бұрын
I was about to say the same thing.
@Luke-c
8 ай бұрын
Definitely
@pauljohnston7522
8 ай бұрын
I thought he was fishing for an offer
@greenroutecycling
8 ай бұрын
EJ vs Patrick. FIGHT!
@Gregory_tottie
8 ай бұрын
“25 kilos of rice. Cheap beans and hot sauce.” That makes me like Lantern Rouge even more.
@TheMASDrummer
8 ай бұрын
Full Dave Ramsey mode
@logojones96
8 ай бұрын
Goddamn if they'd let LR stream races and commentate live on KZitem it would be amazing! DR v HUBERMAN, I'm taking DR all day lol carbs and water and sleep.
@BigBrownMonke
8 ай бұрын
DR is da Mannnnn!
@dominicmartin5074
8 ай бұрын
Have to agree. The DR approach is a really simple way to get all of the basics dialled in from the get go. Once you’re on the road you can start adding in Huberman hacks if you want, totally down to the individual imo
@DanDaly369
8 ай бұрын
Plus sex 6 times a day ( IYKYK)
@jgogl9791
8 ай бұрын
He sometimes gives live commentary on big stages live on KZitem
@simonnaylor9695
8 ай бұрын
Killer pod! What a week so far. Peak Torque and Dylan this morning, Nero and LR in the afternoon. The rest of the week is going to need to up its game! Keep up the good work.
@natashasmith9843
8 ай бұрын
I really enjoyed this one. The three of you work well together. LR Benni and Nero is where I go for for cycling content so I knew it would be good. It would be great if you collaborated in long form after key periods in tbe racing season. 3-4 times a year. Keep up the good work. ❤Nat Xx
@ChrisMillerCycling
8 ай бұрын
Awesome, thank you!
@ChrisMillerCycling
8 ай бұрын
Awesome, thank you!
@ff2e
8 ай бұрын
I trust Durian over Huberman. Huberman doesn't even do any videos with chicks in them
@livingwithfshd
8 ай бұрын
the cape epic should be a great example of how to do coverage. they get mad footage and definitely don’t portray it as 1980’s tv and it’s an MTB stage race. the road coverage peeps could learn a thing or 2
@gregleman6592
8 ай бұрын
Walking is now zone 2 apparently according to Huberman
@MilanSmore
8 ай бұрын
I guess he is very unfit then
@xAudiolith
8 ай бұрын
wat
@philipb.1950
8 ай бұрын
If you’re walking on an incline it could very well be zone 2
@Adanteh
8 ай бұрын
I think that clip that LR responded to is pretty absurd, even though some of the Huberman content seems okayish. The obvious problem is those sorta videos meant purely for the algorhitm. Click one of them with Zone 2 in the title and your KZitem will be filled with it for weeks. Attia's video where he shows what his zone 2 pace seems helpful though, and the watts he's doing there are quite a lot higher than your regular joe trying to do some Zone 2 (Def not 130w as what was implied).
@philipb.1950
8 ай бұрын
Always depends on you’re definition of zone 2, normally you’d say it’s the Fatmax zone or at least many people say that and fatmax is around 1,1-1,5 mmol/l lactat and that isn’t that high
@mountainmusic77
8 ай бұрын
I love seeing Goodnight Moon behind Jesse. Symbolic of the priorities most of us are juggling with cycling. And also symbolic of how this show is one of my weekly bedtime routines. 😂
@endaohalloran6649
8 ай бұрын
1:10:20 fucking lost it lmaooo
@mrcha0s
8 ай бұрын
I think the main reason you guys are so good is because you're not like the other journalists. You don't just rudely interrupt for sound bites. I respect that you guys don't want to bother the riders! I wish your approach would reward even more.
@out_spocken
8 ай бұрын
Is the issue that most sports people don't want to be 'hassled' by media. The truth is they need to do it and 'journos/channels' need to engage and create a connection. That's what makes great interviewers great. The ability to get the story, get the person, and create a vibe that allows them to open up and want to engage. I'd argue these guys have to man up and skipp up and actually get out of 'podcast' land and into the real world of media where you don't just google or rip videos to get the info and content you need. Journalism is a skill. The back end of organising riders / bikes/ interviews is part of it all. Sure it'd be great if it was all spoonfed to anyone that wanted to do a podcast...but that's not the riders, team or media reps jobs. Their jobs is to assist, but not to do the job for journos.
@BiniamGourmet
8 ай бұрын
@LanternRouge, I am a data scientist/engineer and I'm afraid your idea for an AI application is a bit misguided... it sounds like you're essentially trying to convince yourself that you need AI to solve a simple geometry problem (i.e. compute the distance from head to handlebar or spine to top tube or whatever, then compare that to the fastest pose in wind tunnel). I suppose It's a little more complicated than that cause you need a image processing layer to figure out the scaling/orientation - you could use the homography of the know wheel size in the video. I found it funny that you and Jesse both then went on to point out how everything is AI these days when it doesn't need to be - I would say your joke example on linear regression is almost closer to real AI than your TT position AI 🤣. Hope that isn't too harsh, I'm a big fan of your cycling analysis even if your machine learning chops leave something to be desired
@bradleybabel4814
8 ай бұрын
Haha, Chis you’re killing me. “Haven’t heard Durian Rider talk about it so it’s not relevant to me”. 😅 Great podcast guys. LR is right on the event organisers really not fulfilling their contract obligations by not ensuring all regions have access to the televised programming in each region. Two large issues I think is that cause naming the Iggy change the team name is never constant and changing to some sponsors no one knows what they make, so people are not connected to the teams but instead follow riders or personalities, and second the organising body needs to ensure media access in all regions. What LR suggested sounds great.
@ahhalla
8 ай бұрын
Chris was just so fkcing funny this pod lmaooo
@ketle369
8 ай бұрын
As a Norwegian who knows Gustavs father and first trainer I can tell that polarized training is the most newbie friendly training regime. You go zone 1-2 all days except 1 day with intervals. And it’s a short and hard session. Then you’re building base. We had several talks from professional trainers and athletes and they all say the most common amateurs training error is going half hard all the time. Polarized is the easiest regime to follow if you have the discipline to go slow and long enough on easy days. Doing thresholds and other advanced exercises is for more advanced. It’s also the same if you want to build muscles. Do the six basic exercises for 1-2 years then you can do the Arnold program.
@Nick-rz6vq
8 ай бұрын
true
@timtaylor9590
8 ай бұрын
polarized training must vary
@andrewwoffinden8671
8 ай бұрын
Yes that's great if you have 16 hours a week to train..
@Nick-rz6vq
8 ай бұрын
@@andrewwoffinden8671 not really no, thats the thing everyone thinks, but studies showed with 5h+ you ll get a better stimulus than just riding tempo everyday but at the end everyone should be happy with their hobbies, so you do you and i‘ll do me
@timtaylor9590
8 ай бұрын
@@andrewwoffinden8671 considering many ppl work 40 plus hours and sleep 50 to 60 hours a week, certainly it's very much in the realm of reasonably possible to train fifteen hours a week. Of course it's much easier to make excuses, literally create excuses like buying unnecessary things car payments, having kids or high maintenance partners, it's your life to live it's your choice. Instead of working full time making 60 to 80k salary, work less and make 40 to 50k a year, to bad your car isn't as nice or house isn't as big. No one cares.
@DanTuber
8 ай бұрын
You can't expect sponsors to throw bucket loads of cash at you when you're just two random guys talking trash about cycling. What are the sponsors getting for their money? Until you level up to GCN type production, it's not going to be appealing.
@edlaverack
8 ай бұрын
Super chat, really geeked out on the W/KG Data To Teams chat. I can't agree enough with what you spoke about there.
@marcvb3364
8 ай бұрын
Would love to see you on the pod one day Ed! Surely talking hill climbs in depth would make for a killer episode
@Second247
8 ай бұрын
On Valtteri Bottas, He's been racing a lot of gravel. Even mid formula-1 season. I think he's won Unbound in US in some category. So he isn't totally outside the sport, he's amateur cyclist who is leveraging his influence to get to organize races and promote cycling (or gravel, rather). So i don't agree that he's just some outsider coming in. And while i'm Finn i don't care for Formula-One. For longest time i took him as German with distant Finnish cousin whenever national media wrote about him.
@philadams9254
8 ай бұрын
To go beyond 5w/kg FTP means you have some of the top genetics available. It's not linear - you're right off the end of the bell curve. Hunter Allen spoke about that number on the wattage list years ago and said that it needs at least 20 hour weeks with serious dedication just to maintain it. He's never seen anyone who got there on less volume. So, 5.5 would be crazy high and need proper OCD-level dedication to training and recovery. Many of the top guys in the UK hill climb scene get there and go beyond it without loads of training but they only tend to peak for a couple of months after a year-long build up.
@josipX
8 ай бұрын
what's the FTP cap for someone with bad genetics?
@philadams9254
8 ай бұрын
@@josipX Not sure, but it depends on what you mean by bad. Andy Coggan's power profile chart is worth looking at but, again, it's not linear.
@HarryTzianakisTheGodOfSpeed
8 ай бұрын
Cycling training is at its infancy. They're still trying to figure things out. Nothing is 100% yet.
@larsh8560
8 ай бұрын
I have heard 4 w/kg mentioned as s the genetic potential for an average person (whatever that is). I am not sure, but the source may have been Coggan. @@josipX
@philipb.1950
8 ай бұрын
No need for top genetics or 20+ hours for a 5w/kg ftp if you’re the average height and weight of a men
@TobiMcTobeface
8 ай бұрын
Ftp equalling actually one hour power? Since when? 😏
@AndrewisTri-tn1uo
8 ай бұрын
Yeah. People sometimes go on about it, but how useful is 1hr steady power even useful in road cycling? Basically never. I think since indoor cycling took off 0.95 20min is pretty much the standard. 20min power is a very useful and practical number.
@NickelPlateRoad57
8 ай бұрын
Jesse - you might add "Where the Wild Things Are" to the library on the shelf.
@jaaft3946
8 ай бұрын
😆
@BrockDonovan-fk3kl
8 ай бұрын
10 little fingers and ten little toes 🖐️🤚
@OwenStickley
8 ай бұрын
This is the best cycling podcast I've heard for a long time. Totally agree with the suggestion by another commenter that you guys should do this regularly every quarter/6-months to discuss recent racing and industry news.
@florenceetalexismartel8365
8 ай бұрын
Corima do propose Tubular and Tubeless wheels. Just a check on the website to see that the Tubeless are hookless and 26mn internal width, they have 32mn and 47mn version. The MCC version with the 12 carbon spokes looks nice (and expensive), but I don't know how aero they are ... Just to give them a bit of justice ;)
@HkFinn83
5 ай бұрын
45:20 Very generous take on durians views on nutrition😂 The ideal amount of peri-workout carbs has, in recent years, gone up. That’s strictly in relation to peak performance on that specific day. What durian is saying is that you should eat unlimited quantities of sugar and not eating meat somehow makes this allow you to avoid the laws of thermodynamics. It’s not just wrong, it’s dangerously wrong. And there are some people following his advice. You could argue the sorts of people who take nutrition advice from durianrider wouldn’t be doing something else equally insane, but still.
@danielsemyonov
8 ай бұрын
It’s pronounced “ET-Cetera” with a T, not K
@redkeyspoke
8 ай бұрын
Funnily enough, in classical Latin its a hard 'C' so chances are you're 'mispronouncing' it yourself.
@evdb7246
8 ай бұрын
These two coming off as old codgers griping about gravel this, gravel that. Take a breath boys and a look around. Road is on the way down, gravel on the way up. If you're interested in staying relevant, better get on board
@czeckson74
8 ай бұрын
3 AUSSIES chatting about "god and the world" - wonderfull
@glennicol1361
8 ай бұрын
I had to watch a stream with no commentary in total silence... But was better than not seeing it at all... Kind of crazy in 2024... Even the Tour of Thailand had a Facebook live stream with commentary.
@HarryTzianakisTheGodOfSpeed
8 ай бұрын
Why would you need the commentary?
@JordanHammond7
8 ай бұрын
How about Jess coach LR to his FTP goal ??
@out_spocken
8 ай бұрын
4 minute segments every podcast on progress too. Take us on the journey of how a coach works and the perspective form the coached!! love it
@johnphelan7663
8 ай бұрын
Great show lads. I was really interested in Pat's fitness journey. Most of us want to lose weight and get fitter. Inspirational.
@ChrisMillerCycling
8 ай бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it
@brendancycling12
8 ай бұрын
hate to say it but I thought the tour down under broadcast was pretty bad. We need some more excitement and hype from the commentators on the broadcast.
@merckxy54
8 ай бұрын
Phil Ligget, who I heard on the stream that I saw , is well past his sell by date , sorry!!!
@Gabrielle4870
8 ай бұрын
I felt the same, but then again, it wasn't that exciting, most of the race 😂 I think 3 commentators makes everyone more tentative to avoid talking over the top of each other and have less banter. The director was also sloppy - switching back to the studio every time sounded like amateur hour...
@marcvb3364
8 ай бұрын
Fully agree, he doesn't even know that elbows bend on the hoods is faster than being in the drops. When del toro won he kept rambling on about how he wasn't even in the drops lol
@Gabrielle4870
8 ай бұрын
@@marcvb3364 to be fair, all out sprint you would be in the drops unless you're going uphill.
@marcvb3364
8 ай бұрын
@@Gabrielle4870 it wasnt an all out sprint tough
@olsonderekr
8 ай бұрын
Your comments on Huberman's insanely complex routines are spot on. My personal tin foil hat theory is that his academic research into fear and anxiety (his day job) has led him to the perfect formula for getting people addicted to his show - make a big deal out of very minor things that only experts like him can explain to you and recommend. Not simple things like 'be more active' or 'ride your bike a lot, work on TTE, eat, sleep' ( the bottom line of basically every episode of the Empirical Cycling podcast)
@TheMASDrummer
8 ай бұрын
Yup
@krbndlls
8 ай бұрын
In the end of the day making basic things complicated is the best way to sell whatever shit.
@ketle369
6 ай бұрын
Guess Durian rider has been proven right when it comes to drinking sugar on the bike.
@olsonderekr
8 ай бұрын
With regard to double threshold days, you're right that only really aerobically fit people should do them. If you listen to the Cory Lockwood interviews on the Empirical Cycling podcast (the most deep dive technical training podcast around), he does them, but Cory is also the US 40km TT record holder and has an FTP of 450W. Another way of thinking about it is that they're useful only when your TTE is waaaay beyond an hour (but your FTP is really your FTP). Runners do them because injury risk and recovery requirements are so much higher than cycling.
@ReVoltaire
8 ай бұрын
FWIW, the free Ironman KZitem livestreams tend to be a dumpster fire. The cameras are limited, the signal is frequently lost, the commentators are mostly awful and the same (usually extremely annoying) sponsor ad is repeated every few minutes interrupting the action and flow of the broadcast. It borders on unwatchable.
@sgameirojr
8 ай бұрын
Tiz cycling needs your help. Buy the guy a coffee.
@BreakawayB
8 ай бұрын
*TREK MADONE!!!* 😂 Had me laughing
@mrwezbo
8 ай бұрын
Just a bit of a constructive comment regards the intro... EVERY episode of the Nero show is special :)
@BikeRacingWithoutMercy
8 ай бұрын
I very much enjoy your podcasts, they make Z2 on the turbo something to look forward to. Ref the lactate testing I think there is a good reason to do it every so often for the committed amateur - specifically in a lab with gas exhaled also examined plus an expert to explain the results. This all helps demonstrate what is meant to happen from a physiological perspective at low mid and high intensity. And also to show where the individual’s max endurance pace (LT1 ) lies . Also for me it confirmed what I kind of knew from my attempts to ride my 20min FTP for 45-60mins - ie my 20min FTP was consistently too high vs my actual VT2 and 2nd lactate turning point. I understand from the experts that for all but highly trained athletes, the 20min test (let alone the ramp test) tends to overstate Anaerobic Threshold / FTP. Keep up the excellent work
@savagepro9060
8 ай бұрын
Did LR got jealous of Benji's fitness success?
@brianbolton5566
8 ай бұрын
Always love it when someone shouts out Cycling Maven!
@HarryTzianakisTheGodOfSpeed
8 ай бұрын
Was thinking about him the other day and how he just shut down things and disappeared. I think the media threatened him.
@brianbolton5566
8 ай бұрын
@@HarryTzianakisTheGodOfSpeed I think the last I heard he just got busy with life. His video were some of the first videos I ever watched when I got into cycling some 9 years ago. Loved them!
@HarryTzianakisTheGodOfSpeed
8 ай бұрын
@@brianbolton5566 after they went to the tour de France and said we're going to destroy the media they came back and it was over. He started to mention about shutting down the channel. I'm pretty sure what I said is the reason why he disappeared
@three10media
8 ай бұрын
Just a perspective when LR is talking about being hesitant about interviewing riders before a race. I think there should be a mutual respect between media and athletes. First of all, the sport doesn't make ANY money without an audience. Sports are entertainment at the end of the day, and media knowing the personalities/stories behind the riders is a big part of what makes for an entertaining product. Second of all, athletes should also be motivated to build their internal brands. How else will they get exposure? Cycling for performance is just a flash in the pan with respect to their entire life. They need to branch out with interviews and such
@savagepro9060
8 ай бұрын
Last I saw LR he was on a old BMC rim braker, with external cables!
@jameseastwood402
8 ай бұрын
I love this show but the only bad bit is how much you talk about how the show could be better. Just keep deep-diving stuff and chatting bikes. Especially when you go outside the mainstream like with China Cycling.
@gabrieltaylor697
8 ай бұрын
Absolute class, could listen to this for hours!
@Sweetskis
8 ай бұрын
Can LR just hire Jesse and make a series about it. I could tell Jesse was already 90% finished formulating the perfect training regime.
@zalmylavi8351
8 ай бұрын
Hi! Huge fan here! Do you wanna come out to Baltimore for a beautiful charity ride in July? It's a century on July 21st
@mojomarc
3 ай бұрын
I'm in DC--what's the ride?
@robertlight2370
8 ай бұрын
When the TdF claims to be the world's biggest sporting event, they are referring to spectator numbers.
@Andy_ATB
8 ай бұрын
Live spectators; in every other way, it simply isn't. Doesn't bring in anything like the money of major sports events......
@paulmay5779
8 ай бұрын
Patrick is looking great man. Kudos!!! Looking forward to seeing his progress
@LyfeisByke
8 ай бұрын
HBO Max will have cycling coverage for the US starting February. It just sucks it’s behind another paywall and no one is sure the extent of races they will cover. GCN was fairly cheap and every race was available via VPN.
@paulsampson9047
8 ай бұрын
I have said this before …..cycling chat does get any better this …. Podcast or youtube….. its The HOUR of cycling SANITY …..Just don’t ever Quit !!!!
@MatthewBeedham
8 ай бұрын
On comparing the bike industry to automotive industry. In the Auto industry it's rare that care companies own the entire production too. Cars and motorbikes, are the result of a huge amount of system integration, 3rd parties, OEM makers, and so on. So it's not that different from the bike industry. What the auto industry does benefit from is strategic partnerships, integration. Automakers share engines across brands, companies co-develop chassis, drive trains and so on. and they reuse those components over and over in various machines perfecting them as they go. The issue with prices in the bike industry is its need to update bikes SO GODDAM often. and the margins they're charging. and the quantities they're producing in. and the fact, there seems to be plenty of people out there ok paying the prices.
@chasepalpatine170
8 ай бұрын
There’s some imposter syndrome going on with LR and Chris as a media access journalist. Have confidence in yourselves and believe you should be there. You both do, so believe in your credibility.
@eriktroostheide4846
8 ай бұрын
Time to start some crowdfunding for the boys to do some trips like eurobike!! If all of us chip in the equivalent of an over priced coffee, we all get to enjoy it 10 fold. Our boys get on a trip, we get to see the stuff we want to see and then blap on about it for weeks after. What a win win!! Make the budget and let us know, happy support that !!!
@Shlopps
8 ай бұрын
I think a really cool idea would be for you guys to engage podcasters outside of cycling and do a cross over chat. One thought I have is connecting up with another sport that is not that greatly followed and also in some ways with a 'niche' audience and that's cricket - specifically linking up with The Grade Cricketer. Doing an episode with them and possibly with LR to talk about the two sports in general and laugh about the similarities - this could be great for both sports with audiences from both sides maybe then venturing into some level of interest into the other sport. Jesse was also talking about the Nero show being better, funnier etc - I'm not saying to copy the unique dynamic that TGC has but perhaps it can help open your minds as to the direction you'd like to take the show and mould it to what would be your ideal :)
@kristianschmidt7936
8 ай бұрын
I think Durian Rider set up a new KZitem Channel as I had previously blocked his Channel but then saw one of his TDU videos come into my KZitem feed. Am I the only one that this happened to? Why would DR set up a new channel…….is it because so many others like me blocked his original channel? By the way I also blocked Huberman as his videos also started clogging up my feed. Your safe for the time being Chris 😂
@n1909-t4q
8 ай бұрын
Jesse is a bit insufferable in this one with his hating on polarised and clm devices. only because you have been training for decades and know how your body reacts to training doesn't mean it isn't an issue for people new to the sport and keeping in check with their intensity/volume is key. and what's wrong talking about it then. honestly comes off as arrogant to me
@mrcha0s
8 ай бұрын
Same with the lack of channel sponsor comments tbh
@KetzalSterling
8 ай бұрын
Cycling coverage has gone back to the dark ages. It's insane. 2024 and the sport doesn't have a dedicated live streaming global app/channel. It's without doubt the single largest issue the sport has. It needs immediate solving. If your fans can't even watch your sport, how on Earth will it last? The UCI or possibly this One Cycling project need to solve this. Every cycling podcast needs to continue to berate everyone involved until it's solved. Call these organisations out.
@bradtowne2305
8 ай бұрын
Sadly Road is dying because most people consume cycling passively outside the TdF (outside the core Euro countries) It’s all now about EPIC rides….and the journey on KZitem than it is watching actual racing live
@jetcool87
8 ай бұрын
Tour de France is the F1 of cycling, Tour Down Under is in the league of F2 or DTM.
@mojomarc
3 ай бұрын
Hi guys--coming to this episode late so not sure if you're still paying attention. But I work with AI technologies so your questions about what is AI vs not is something I may be able to illuminate. First--great observation that it is difficult to ascertain what is our is not AI based on advertisements. Software platforms for years have been claiming they are AI when really they are just doing predictive analytics (like the linear regression the LR gentleman mentioned). While the dividing line is sometimes blurry, typically predictive analytics isn't considered AI. What typically is considered AI unambiguously would be software systems that perceived the world using human-like senses. So a model that can take in sound and parse it into language, or look at an image and figure out whether a bicycle is in the frame would be "hearing" and "seeing", so both of those would be AI. You could then combine the interpretations of these forms of data with, for example, linear regression, to them make a decision about what to do based on what was "seen" or "heard". The whole system would generally be considered AI as well. In a broader sense, AI as a label is being applied to anything that also looks at the data using techniques that can analyze data and then use that analytical output as part of a second (or nth-- these models can be dozens of layers deep) analysis. So if the model that was "listening" above heard a word and thought it was "they're" but then heard a second word, "house" and then "realized" that it was "their" and not "they're" it heard. That would be a system that was applying the output of the first analysis and then combining it to the second input and "changing its mind". This is an example of a convoluted neural network approach like what was described by the LR gentleman talking about the software he bought. What he specifically was talking about is an example of a learning system using this kind of algorithm, where the model at the first level says "not aero" and a human in the loop is correcting the machine, and the machine then applies that input into future, different examples it sees. Hopefully this helps. And apologies for any mispellings--doing this on the phone....
@mikek3614
8 ай бұрын
You guys should just watch regular news occasionally. Daily TDU coverage in most news/sport bulletins, and no mention of your apparent nemesis, VB.
@littlemrdrummer
8 ай бұрын
Can any one give me some background on what happened to Cycling Maven. Discovered him when I first started cycling 10 years ago but stopped watching after a few videos then...
@urbancvek
8 ай бұрын
Not sure I would agree with the Norwegian method not being something new. Maybe similar training was done in the cycling but definitely not in athletics especially not in the middle distances they are running. For example if you look at the Hicham El Guerrouj training (most middle distance runners are still training like this) which is still the WR holder for 1500m. The volumes of his are 2-3x lower than what Ingebritsen's are doing and that's because a lot of training El Guerrouj was done at race pace or above and what Ingebritsen's are doing is training at much lower intensity and thus be able to take on so much volume. Like doing 2 quality sessions in one day was unheard of in running (double threshold) before them. Especially makes sense when you take in to account that running is an impact sport and thus you are even more prone to injuries and not just overtraining.
@WattsOnTheUp
7 ай бұрын
"...why wouldn't you run tubeless, you get less flats. Seems like a no brainer!" Never in my cycling years have I got more flats than in the 12 months of running tubeless!!! Constant flats and a fuck ton of ruined tires!! Changed to latex and clinchers 4 months ago and haven't had a single fucking flat, so tubeless on the road can fuck right off a cliff!
@danielsemyonov
8 ай бұрын
Car/moto manufacturers dont own the process either. All your lights and belts and airbags and windhsield wipers come from OEM manufacturers like bosch etc. cop out answer
@varasurf
8 ай бұрын
That was my thinking too. Also aren't all these cycle brands now doing their own wheels and bars these days. So literally a seat and groupset is from an external manufacturer. And how can frames cost USD $5000-$6000n when then made in Taiwan for a fraction of the price 😮
@philipk4475
7 ай бұрын
Empirical Cycling did a fantastic podcast about lactate testing and it's well overhyped. A power meter provides much more actionable data than lactate ever will. Add HR and RPE and you've got everything you need. The reason running and other sports have double days is because it's much harder on your body.
@EddyCat1234
8 ай бұрын
Tell him he’s dreaming! LR doing 5.5W/kg for an hour, no chance 😂
@trippinjim3
8 ай бұрын
Re the Bottas discussion, I think Jesse would benefit from considering the overall economics of the event.... It's a state govt owned event, and basically a tourism exercise - so a key metric for the event owner must be exposure/eyeballs. How do they supplement that? Use a complimentary athlete with international exposure by paying him for content on the 'gram' AND setup a side event and support it. That event (RADL) is another advertisement for a tourist region that will generate visits. Supporting a crit they have no care or investment in, that won't generate tourism dollars, has no justification or benefit.
@edwardp5748
8 ай бұрын
After winning 11 of my last 13 running and triathlon races (local am races, but overall wins buddy) at the age of 46 having done zero training with data or diet manipulation, I think it’s safe to say that if you work hard each day at your weaknesses, great things can occur. Just train hard and use common sense. There is no money selling it, but that is the answer.
@lazeroth89
8 ай бұрын
At least Huberman and Attia are trying to bring new people into the sport, whichever it is. You glorify the "pros" and often shit on the people that know less than you. This is becoming the cycling elitist's podcast.
@clouda86
8 ай бұрын
I'm a cycling fan in New Zealand. It is impossible to watch cycling here legally
@jimtro4403
8 ай бұрын
I am definitely into following LR's weight loss and cycling journey especially as a person who has been trying for quite a while to improve my cycling. I am not young, no interest in racing, not very fit and no natural ability so count me in! It would actually interest me more than many other topics that are covered on KZitem. It can be motivating and helpful.
@digitalenglish3620
8 ай бұрын
@LR, Remco during the off season does TT wind tunnel testing. Saw a video where when he’s getting dressed, he has his DS tape his back based on his optimized position from the wind tunnel, so for the whole ride he stays in that position-if he deviates, he can feel it based on the tension of the tape, It’s genius! Don’t necessarily need Ai would be useful, but I believe it would be expensive to compare testing position to actual race based position visual data, it would take so many boffins to crunch the numbers. Remco’s method is a cost effective way to do it.
@justsomedude7556
8 ай бұрын
I quit watch the NFL due to the Taylor Swift crap, so tired of it. Great show today
@traderz13
8 ай бұрын
On the AI chat, you still have to have all the orignal data of what is or isnt aero to train the algorithm. The dark haired fella isnt too wrong, its not all that different it just uses a lot more data with a lot less rules and guidance to come up with the algorithms.
@calvin1148
8 ай бұрын
Western Canada: Flobikes $150/year
@peterthomas8053
8 ай бұрын
Watched most of your stuff (and going back to catch up those that I haven't yet) and love it, but, for me, this one is the best yet. Keep it going guys, and here's to hoping that you can grow it.
@camwatson4986
8 ай бұрын
Bottas is to cycling is what Swift is the the NFL
@Squizzy05
8 ай бұрын
I am in Singapore for work and that free live stream on KZitem was the only way I could watch the race. Brilliant.
@savagepro9060
8 ай бұрын
Ba-bye Campagnolo!
@MattiasThyr
8 ай бұрын
Tour de France is watched by people on their vacation in July when they are free.
@dazzatm6028
8 ай бұрын
50k subs, well done lads💪
@thetrappedman
8 ай бұрын
I miss the Maven
@Jpearse1
8 ай бұрын
Missed opportunity Chris not doing the Radl Grvl
@cyclinganatomy
8 ай бұрын
Damn, I agree 100%. Watching cycling now in Canada without GCN is a nightmare. I watched LR since the early days - this guy f#%ks!
@hinrichaue7199
8 ай бұрын
TPU tubes are only 1-2 watts worse to tubeless no? who rides butyl
@roadcyclist1
7 ай бұрын
Best part was making fun of that fraud, Durian rider.
@brendancycling12
8 ай бұрын
11:48 agree with Jesse here cycling def not as big as we think. same idea as dare I say athletics- kzitem.info/news/bejne/mJ-jm6x_nYWHa5g this video would apply to cycling to imo
@HarryTzianakisTheGodOfSpeed
8 ай бұрын
Cycling is way bigger than what it's made out to be. If you look at the views to any other sport, cycling races have more views. When the golf tour is on compared to the tour de France, there's twice the views than the golfers get. The people running the sports industries are keeping things silent for some strange reason. My guess is they don't know how to monopolize cycling yet. Cycling generates way more money than any other sport you can think of. To get involved in any other sport you just need to go buy a ball and some sneakers To get involved in cycling, you need to spend a lot of money and there's lots of people involved in cycling more than any other sport because the age group is so much wider. Again, it's strange how they're keeping this a secret and why?
@brendancycling12
8 ай бұрын
@@HarryTzianakisTheGodOfSpeed yeah I totally see your point idk why its kept from the masses
@HarryTzianakisTheGodOfSpeed
8 ай бұрын
@@brendancycling12 It's because they can't totally control it yet. They going to have to build gigantic stadiums something like a F1 race track and when they can control the masses as you mentioned and bring them to a location to rip them off by selling them. $30 beers and $50 popcorns that's when the cyclists themselves are going to start to make some good money because the ones that are getting the short end of the stick are the athletes racers themselves.
@jenniferkay7375
8 ай бұрын
More Joe Rogan needed
@benthilwind6908
8 ай бұрын
I'm in England, I watch the cyclocross live on KZitem just no commentary I think that's how they get away with it
@benthilwind6908
8 ай бұрын
And I'm lucky enough to have the Quest channel and itv4 for the majors / the tour, giro ect.. For FREE
@photomotor
8 ай бұрын
one thing this pod cast screams is: cycling is easily and completely controlled by marketing. The pro end of it, the broadcasting of it, the names of the different disciplines all of it is completely caught up in marketing advertising niches. Vegan cyclist, gravel cross road fixie guy. Everyone searching for individual recognition in a smaller faction of it. social media magnify it massively, I mean it is what it is. just interesting
@merckxy54
8 ай бұрын
The problem at the core is....ASO..... they control, run, organize a lot of the big races in Europe and are loath to let others knuckle in on their paycheck!!!
@joelguerin-simard3415
8 ай бұрын
Is durian rider still relevant outside of porn ?
@sheepdogcapital
8 ай бұрын
It is so funny watching Chris mention durianrider. He's trying to hold back the disdain which is hilarious. @jesse chat to Kolie from Empircal Cycling, FTP is not 60minute power. If you stopped your FTP at 59:59 mins, would that no longer be valid? there's nothing special about 60mins.
@mrcycling7007
8 ай бұрын
Sensational discussion lads. How did I not know about this vlogging Patrick! KZitem search coming up. It was me who you passed last week on the road to Harndorf Chris and I said “Jesse said to say Valtarie Bottas” 😂 Noting that you said you only had 1 gear Chris. Was that a reference to the one-by or flat battery? 🙂
@justinschultz4325
8 ай бұрын
Warner Bros Discovery royally screwed over cycling fans in USA when they shut down GCN+. They now expect us to pay for Max streaming and a sports package add on. No thanks.
@gavinhughes8686
8 ай бұрын
What’s your hang up with Valteri Bottas. He’s probably encouraging fair few f1 fans towards cycling.
@out_spocken
8 ай бұрын
Seems like your're complaining about not having or wanting to develop the skills or relationships to start getting the 'bits' you want. Ofc no-ones going to give you the light of day if you've never met them before and never done what it is you do. Relationship building. Some people are good at doing this instantly, some take time. I love how you want them to do your job for you too. You want them to supply a stupid and cameras and mics, for your personal youtube channel? Just think about that. You want them to supply the bike, supply the room and gear so all you have to do is walk in and do your thing? I think you have it the wrong way around. Certain level of entitlement imho. Sure you can argue it's in their interest to have more eyeballs looking at their bike. Forgetting that you need them. They don't really need you. If you are a giant channel with stupid amounts of subs and views, sure there's some level of mutual benefit...perhaps. But there's enough coverage of big races. There's lots of bloggers and journos. I mean maybe we just have them film their bikes from every angle and perspective and then give you the footage to just speak over and discuss? If you want to leave riders alone...you aren't going to get the interview. I think you all need to reevaluate what you want to offer and what that means you actually have to do. You can't create interview content without imposing on a riders time, personal or before a race. So I think start asking. They can say no....but if you start developing content and interviews that are great, even starting with lower end riders, you'll develop a reputation where other high value riders would be more likely to say yes and also be open to it instead of standoffish. It's almost like dating. You want to date a girl but don't want to approach her. The difference being as a journo/podcaster you are a 5, and all the riders you want are 10s. Start with 4's. Bad analogy maybe,..but start small...get used to approaching rides and figuring out the way you can do it that might work better and get a good response and create an instant connection.. Almost like the 'pick up line'. And yours might just be to approach politely and be yourselves. Nothing wrong with that. But you have to approach. Or organise ahead of time. Standing around hoping leaves too much to chance.
@Saints66
8 ай бұрын
You guys have a great Aussie chemistry…
@willalexander8714
8 ай бұрын
LR, members of GCN should start their own streaming company. Sponsored by teams and others to ensure cycling is brought to a wide global audience. Warner Bros are compete knuckleheads that have gone woke and lost touch of reality.
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