00:00:00 Intro 00:21:28 EzraSmiles's take: LCS should push more content during the break weeks to get through the lack of games 00:30:33 Rico Suave asks Mark about the plan to increase NA viewership and young viewers 00:53:21 Azikiel asks what Mark's take is on adding unbroadcasted games and fearless draft 01:26:45 Wakalino ask if there's any content planned for off days during normal broadcast hours 01:33:03 David asks if there's any hope for 2025 roadshows for finals 01:40:15 ppdoc's shoutout 01:41:30 Mark gives some more insights on Spring Finals 01:50:20 icebreaker asks Mark what the biggest surprise was during his first split as commissioner 02:02:33 Why can't Mark talk about bo3 02:06:20 Outro
@arlow7705
4 ай бұрын
Miss Mark on HLL, but really like the fact he's the commissioner! I think he's doing good work!
@Parawen2
4 ай бұрын
Mark is actually the G.O.A.T so glad he got the role he is in. I appreciate the communication that is coming out of LCS! This might have been my favorite split since like 2018. Keep up the great work Mark!
@PlsDontReadThis123
4 ай бұрын
I appreciate Mark highlighting the positives of the LCS. Im sick of other regions just twisting and shit talking NA. LEC has begun to feel some of that same negative sentiment after G2 bombed out by NRG, and I am curious how their PR guys will handle it over the next 2 years. They deserve a dose of their own medicine.
@anotherpolo1143
4 ай бұрын
EU has needed a hefty dose for quite some time. 6 years maybe? Even before their lords 2019 G2 they had a massive ego inflation, evident in their flame.
@dao5230
4 ай бұрын
I mean Travis did bring up a really good point; other major regions don't feel like the product they follow aren't going to die in a year or two. LCS really feels like it's on its last legs, so of course we are looking at it with a microscope because we want it to succeed despite what the numbers show relative to other major regions.
@falsearbitrator2560
4 ай бұрын
EU is in just as bad shape as NA. But don't let that distract you from these artificial numbers on viewership. I can show you a graph that shows a decrease in viewers. Particularly NA viewers, which is the most important type of viewers for NA sponsorships
@fullmetal929
4 ай бұрын
It's especially funny when they try to flame NA nowadays, immediately after we've outperformed them in several international tournaments in a row. Some of those folks are really riding a 6 year old copium high.
@ae86xtrueno93
4 ай бұрын
Yea exactly, lcs fans never shit talked lec or whatever, they finally know what it feels like now.
@DanielMuii
4 ай бұрын
Cubby deserves more love! Shoutout to him for being an awesome cohost as always
@squigglywiggles18
4 ай бұрын
Thank you Mark for coming on the show the whole reason I came back to watching league this season was the hope you gave me as a fan. I appreciate your time and love for the game.
@markmyers8491
4 ай бұрын
Mark doin his best spinning the budget cuts. I appreciate it.
@DavidSzajnuk
4 ай бұрын
Thanks as always for having me on!
@cedrichofstetter4057
4 ай бұрын
My wife and I started watching LCS in 2020 with drops and have stuck around since
@JayroReaps
4 ай бұрын
Markz should have pro-view of pro players on the main league client. A certain champion that the player just played and that was played professionally. So for example, I just played a game of Volibear jungle, so when I return to the league client, I am introduced to a clip of Umpti playing Volibear jungle making a play or something in a match introducing me to pro players that played similar champs. This might be a good idea in order to garner interest in active players who aren't fans of pro play yet.
@Darkstormsun9865
4 ай бұрын
That's beyond markz's job lol
@jadentran9895
4 ай бұрын
and I guess you are paying for all that works? I'm not paying for that lol
@gregpartridge7554
4 ай бұрын
@@jadentran9895 Clipping a few plays and tagging them with a champion/role isn't that much work. It's basically what they already do for the highlights reel at the end of each LCS day - just added into the client.
@jadentran9895
4 ай бұрын
@@gregpartridge7554 so why don’t you do it if it “isn’t that much work?” Do it and show me that it isn’t that much work and it doesn’t cost a lot
@grifentaunton9610
4 ай бұрын
Pro View has always failed when done unfortunately, the amount of viewers it gets isn’t worth the production cost. It’s awesome and I also am one who would love to watch from a certain pros perspective.
@MrRfarleydude
4 ай бұрын
THE GOATED CO HOST TURNED COMMISSIONER HAS RETURNED TO US! (We miss you, pls return)
@Herrsch_
4 ай бұрын
Honestly and give me shit if it sounds too unreasonable, but I've thought about Fearless Draft and think I've come up with a solution for it in regards to B05s: So it's not necessarily 50 champs banned, why not make it so by game 4 (if it occurs) game 1's champs are unbanned and by game 5 game 2's champs are unbanned, effectively having no more than 30 champs being made unplayable. I do think the idea of reaching deeper into champ pools is fun and makes for exceptionally ludicrous games that take the utmost brain power to maneuver but that's just my idea. Alternatively, you could just go with game 5 being the "all champs previously picked can be played" game as a "reward" for making it to silver scrapes and still see 40 unique champions picked up to then.
@jasonwalker1015
4 ай бұрын
I always liked LCK blind pick for game 5. That shit was spicy and the zed vs zed faker/ryu duel is one of the most epic moments.
@Herrsch_
4 ай бұрын
@@jasonwalker1015 Maybe not a full blind pick for competitive reasons but yeah that would be dope
@patrickaquino7963
4 ай бұрын
Aren't the major leagues will be converting into 3 splits if Riot decides to host another international tournament that's not MSI or Worlds?
@spencer2901
4 ай бұрын
Hey Travis, commenting while listening to the fearless draft portion of the show. Random thought I’ve had and wondered if you heard of any suggestions of adding champion ban limits? IE: in a Bo3 if your team bans smolder on game 1, you cannot ban smolder on game 2 and 3. (Other team could ban Smolder on game 2) but this would force meta picks finding play, while also really adapting draft strategies. As an “aging” fan who doesn’t play anymore but only watches LCS, this variation and the change feels like a great middle ground to see variety in the games while also allowing the later games in the series to be bangers because you essentially “unlock” meta picks as the series progresses. Really enjoyed this episode, would love to hear your thoughts!
@woodwest11
4 ай бұрын
Lmaooo I forget that Travis is the reason that I started reading Sanderson him talking about the rafo caught me off guard
@toomuchdog986
4 ай бұрын
Loved to have Mark on this episode. Holy shit Azikiel gave me the biggest fucking brain rot.
@cedrichofstetter4057
4 ай бұрын
I think Mark/the LCS has definitely done a better job of talking directly to the audience about things that the community is concerned about (in contrast to riot just ignoring those things) and hope we continue to see improvement in the future. I really enjoyed the LCS in spring minus finals being in the studio
@QC336
3 ай бұрын
Man what a great insightful episode. Yeah LCS deserves praise let's keep it going.
@poro3246
4 ай бұрын
How to increase NA viewers: have regionalized competition. NA has no real shot on a global scale, but have American tournament where you compete with CBLOL and LLA. With NA split the region in two perhaps and have east coast vs west coast competition. People want to identify with certain teams and it's harder to get into the scene if there is no clear representation for you. E.g. in sports you rally behind your country or behind your local team. For the most popular sports you start getting teams living their own lives (like f.c. Barcelona). I myself got into lolesports by rooting for EU in internationals. I've always been an EU fan and within EU I naturally rooted for those teams I expect to do well internationally (funny how we see EU as one nation here).
@hohemheim1985
4 ай бұрын
With regards to the fearless draft conversation - what if you only have a maximum 20 champions banned based on what was played (not banned). The rest of the series (bo3 or bo5) would play out normally. This would keep the adaptability aspect as well as protect the later games in a series from being messy due to lack of practice on a champion.
@Awetfrog85
3 ай бұрын
About the black out bad games take... I agree with him. But he didn't propose his take properly. I think they could add more games to the split.. and instead of riot complaining it's to expensive... don't broadcast them normally. Let the streamers show these games. Then you wouldn't have to pay the casters and the whole broadcast team for the extra games, and they would still be watchable
@youngkj94
3 ай бұрын
Not sure if this is widely covered elsewhere but does anyone know how VOD views incorporate into the AMA stats Mark mentioned? Is it included? and is it valued the same as live viewers (monetarily) for LCS?
@davidmcmillon913
4 ай бұрын
the B stream in APEX is great example of un-broadcasted games
@amerancolvine
4 ай бұрын
the argument is if you don't have the break in the middle, you don't have to worry about Easter at all. or if you had 1 week break then your finals is the week before Easter.
@Remixt
4 ай бұрын
It would be easy to make unbroadcasted games, just put a spectate stream on
@adi2ro-yt
4 ай бұрын
First time here, hearing "Survivor" ... as a long time fan... made my day.
@pn9043
4 ай бұрын
The prodigal son returns!
@Raxiums
3 ай бұрын
A lot of people talking about fearless draft, why not just add more bans? There's like 160 something champions in the game now and it's been how long since the number of bans increased? Why not have 12, 14, or even 16 bans in pro play? I guess the biggest detriment will be increased pick and ban phase length, but Dota 2 has had 14 bans in pro play for a while now and seems fine.
@mikejdaly4588
4 ай бұрын
Mark not understanding the importance of North American viewers to North American sponsors was a twist I did not see coming.
@imaight123
4 ай бұрын
During breaks, I actually would prefer to see more engagement with league content creators rather than players and teams. Put on for fun tournaments during weeknights that are done online instead of in studio or 1v1s or have something that gets league content creators together so that lcs get familiar with content creators they don't know and those creators fans maybe will also be more likely to watch lcs. Especially with some league players who werent on a team that would be super helpful. (It may be a cost issue but I would want each streamer/creator to be able to continue streaming during it so it's not a choice of what is more profitable to them).
@janos2318
4 ай бұрын
Can Markz share those charts hes watching during matches? It would be very helpful!
@swayarrow
3 ай бұрын
unbroadcasted games is insane i love corporate answer mark
@DerrickSimpson-iu7yu
4 ай бұрын
The take that we should make unbroadcasted games matter isn’t a ridiculous take. The caller just didn’t have the right idea. Instead of all the scrim days just make one of the days completely unbroadcasted but still count. Everyone plays on the weekends but the records are inflated due to the unbroadcasted days and we get a better sense of team strength and the players are forced to lock in for a day during the week. Then release the VODS. Teams can build content around those days separate from a riot production. They increase their fandom how they can and they drive traffic to their channels.
@ryansheets3161
4 ай бұрын
I respect the need for a paywall on these, but if there is anyway you could wait a few hours next time that would be great. I got kicked off last night mid watch when I was delayed a little because of a crying kid.
@kitoesa4000
3 ай бұрын
Big ups to Asikiel for coming in with the worst take I’ve heard in a MINUTE. Genuine appreciation, the show is way more fun when there’s actual hot takes. But also the generalizing was, for lack of a better word, a bit cringe. Glad to have Mark back.
@poro3246
4 ай бұрын
I think the take to have non-broadcasted games isn't completely stupid. I think a downside of the EU early kick out is for pro players that they barely compete. Suggestion would be to have first round robin be broadcasted and second round robin if you are in bottom 4 out of 10 teams and you face another bottom 4 team then you play online. There would probably be one spectator recording the game and it can be broadcasted on a second tier channel for example for the hard core fans. Also the teams themselves should be stimulated to make vods/highlights. Exception of this rule would be games that decide whether you go to palyoffs or not, those should always be broadcasted. Alternatively have a whole play in stage that isn't broad casted, and only teams that make it out will play in a huge bo5s tournament.
@Joshua-mv5zp
4 ай бұрын
Boss man is back!
@theboyinorange4
4 ай бұрын
If the 2-3 week break is going to be a normal thing going forward then they should do a party mode or player swaps in games during that time. i guess at that point they can just still play the regular game too.
@Gray-rl7yg
4 ай бұрын
fall out is awesome show!!
@imtehx9798
4 ай бұрын
Per the conversation @1:45:45 I can speak for myself and say that I didnt watch spring finals because it was at the studio. I usually will go to spring finals every year and had a great time in Raleigh last year. The fact that it was held in the studio lost so much hype for me that I didnt even tune in to watch
@victoriam8082
4 ай бұрын
Love listening to the show ❤
@BryantFong
4 ай бұрын
During break week -- how about team vs team content in other games/modes? e.g. Cloud9 vs Flyquest in ARAM or Valorant or TFT? No need for a studio.
@nickmajora
4 ай бұрын
Mark the G.
@poro3246
4 ай бұрын
It's obviously a 2 week break, those calling it 3 week break are ignorant. As if production isn't working on the week before the weekend happens. Also just count down. If there's one weekend no game, you'd call it a break week. If there's no weekend off, you don't even call it a break. People need to learn to count and/or realize how life works, either is enough to prove it's a 2 week break.
@mountainoceanprojectgalves6274
4 ай бұрын
I like G2 in ideal world both LEC and LCS do well. But it is annoying that LEC thinks they’re so better even when we beat them. I saw a lot of LEC playoffs wasnt hype, a lot of playoffs of LCS wasn’t hype. Finals was actually good despite in the studio. I think TL can surprise some people.
@SirAstien
4 ай бұрын
The individual discussing unbroadcasted games appeared a bit confused, but I believe there's potential for a compelling twist on his suggestion. Picture this: incorporating additional online matches into the schedule that would contribute to the standings. However, here's the kicker-instead of airing these matches on the LCS channel, both competing teams would stream them on their respective Twitch or KZitem channels. They'd be required to feature LCS alongside their OWN Sponsors in the title and across their social media platforms to amplify visibility and engagement. Additionally, these games or "series" could also be casted and analyzed by different members of their organizations, such as coaches or other staff members who'd like to try casting from the office.
@PlsDontReadThis123
4 ай бұрын
There would be too much negative optics regarding that and a lot less riot control since it wouldn't be a centralized broadcast. That's a concept I am not interested in. Being an old school CLG fan when they did poorly would only make it harder to watch their games back then before they had their glow up
@08blaze83
4 ай бұрын
So glad to hear Bo3's are back!
@bobob4328
4 ай бұрын
The Super Bowl has a 2 week break and is the most watched sporting event in the US. I don’t understand this take. I don’t understand why they can’t accept that people do things on Easter and don’t have time to sit at home alone watching a video game. I would’ve watched but couldn’t since it was on Easter.
@Wardenaz
4 ай бұрын
The really don't want to talked about the bo3 😂
@Brawph
4 ай бұрын
Best of 3's and Kobe confirmed going to MSI?! More like Hotline LEAK!
@Awetfrog85
3 ай бұрын
Its the teams job to create a fan base. Not the casters and broadcast team. Some lcs teams dont release any content.. thats why they dont have a fan base
@pompano61
4 ай бұрын
As I was listening to this episode I was talking out loud to myself about a valorant and league crossover event. Maybe even a draft type situation with community heads or teams would be fun to watch. Get out of my head Travis!
@broc1617
4 ай бұрын
Oh hi mark
@gregory94miracle
3 ай бұрын
Unbroadcasted games for the low tier games is a great idea. I never watch them and always tune out and play Solo Q. If teams want fans they need to climb the gauntlet and earn their position on the broadcast and respect from the fans. It bloats the live time slots for residentsleeper games and motivates lower quality players to level up. Fans always bandwagon the winners anyways. Look at the road shows everyone wears C9 jerseys and before you know it, everyone has NRG jerseys.
@ep3865
4 ай бұрын
Why dont we see Mark on the LCS???
@ianwalker2259
4 ай бұрын
Cubby and his mustache GYAT
@MiiniMes2987
4 ай бұрын
i've tried so hard to continue to watch content and took many breaks between episodes or videos but the always being a victim mentality is too much for me to handle anymore from travis
@TravisGafford
4 ай бұрын
Can you elaborate?
@Tomukus
4 ай бұрын
The facial hair looks great on you Cubby, don't listen to Mark
@bradyschow3564
4 ай бұрын
Azikiels take about unbroadcasted games went so far from the original take because he mentioned not giving every team fair treatment…. Just make everyone have half of there games off air still recorded and cast, but not on the main stage.
@Ian7herd
4 ай бұрын
Big shoutout to Azikiel the caller for holding his side of a good conversation, didn't agree with everything he said. But it was a really good convo!
@Nojamforme
4 ай бұрын
LOVE ME SOME MARK!
@darklyger64
4 ай бұрын
I think the idea of prerecorded matches as an online match along with some reactions from ex-pros like Sneaky to react while watching the prerecorded matches, might benefit the LCS. Even just ex pros from the previous team as viewers.
@kitoesa4000
3 ай бұрын
LCK has as many or more one-sided dogshit to watch matches as LCS, so many people only watch the top 4 teams and hate any games with any of the bottom 6.
@hahahobo247
4 ай бұрын
so does he answer why they just tell us how many brazilian viewers there were but don't tell us how many NA viewers there were?
@Sleeptastic
4 ай бұрын
Can't increase young viewership unless you get young people playing the game
@yuurapik
3 ай бұрын
showmatches perform bad because they never were on the fucking schedulle
@chriswe3151
4 ай бұрын
The Rico guy saying he hates reddit while giving away strong redditor vibes was comical
@Awetfrog85
3 ай бұрын
I like watching some of the broadcast. But if I had the choice.... more games... or better broadcast. I would choose more games. I love you guys. But your crazy if you think unbroadcasted games would be bad for league. This is why league is going downhill. Cause you care more about creating an image for the teams then what the fans actually want. "The customer is always right". And let's face it. You could put all the best players in the league on dig... and digs fan base isn't really going to change much. People might watch them slightly more... but there not going to "switch there favorit team Cause your hyping another team up"
@Obzerver
4 ай бұрын
League fans really don't know what its like to cut out bad teams early. I've been watching ASL this past month and round of 24 is double elimination best of 1. You literally show up, lose 2 games back to back then are gone for 6 months. If you are "bad" you get 40 minutes of on screen time every tournament and then you are out of there. Also a more reasonable conversation for unbroadcast games is vod only games. Literally no one brings up vod viewership in any conversation ever. As one of the 22 THOUSAND people watching this video after the fact compared the couple thousand that catch it live, that's just perplexing to me. Why does league esports pretend like no one will ever watch something unless its live? LCK had to move to pre-record games from the DDOS stuff and as far as I know their league was just fine.
@RandyWiafe
4 ай бұрын
We need a Monte and Mark battle!
@llaakarii
4 ай бұрын
The main issue there is we'd all have to listen to Monte
@RandyWiafe
4 ай бұрын
@@llaakarii 🤣
@BorisTheGoose92
4 ай бұрын
No thanks. One guy has absolutely nothing to lose and everything to gain. The other has to put up with Monte.
@Ahmed.Hadjou
4 ай бұрын
1:11:40 💀💀💀
@Jeremy______.
4 ай бұрын
Thanks!
@TravisGafford
4 ай бұрын
Thank you!
@raoulmensink3893
4 ай бұрын
LEC format is great, its just the teams are poor. Like... G2 is basically caps + wards. FNC is razork and humanoid can't figure things out, noah still cant spell adc. RGE vanished. KC sucks. MAD isnt bringing the heat and dropped a championship team. BDS keep dropping the ball. HRT G3 is no more. Gaintx is a dumsterfire again. SK nesquick has no lanes to play for. Vitality carzzy is playing like rekkless used to but is lacking a topside tbh. And then we dont have quickshot... Guldborg what have you done...
@BobAndGeorg
4 ай бұрын
Sorry I missed the stream. Thanks to Mark for speaking the truth that NA fans have to deal with the most nonsense takes.
@TravisGafford
4 ай бұрын
Thanks for the super chat, Bob and Georg(e)
@Pofiveddie
4 ай бұрын
I have no intetest to watch final held in studio. No hype, boring, feel like a regular match.
@FMD-FullMetalDragon
4 ай бұрын
If MarkZ had real balls and wanted honest conversation he'd go talk to Monte and Thorin but MarkZ only has pebbles and only wants to talk in the Riot approved echo chamber.
@Shinyodo
4 ай бұрын
I'm really not sure the live patch is adding anything actually. It was supposedly going to increase champ diversity etc etc... but in the end LEC almost felt like the least innovative region out of the top 4.
@Darkstormsun9865
4 ай бұрын
It wasnt for innovation but the speed of adaption. Which would be considered innovation for the viewers because you are supposed to see new things more often and before other regions, which was somewhat successful.
@dpb22
4 ай бұрын
The one thing about it is NA players can just play whatever LCK and LPL are doing.
@RyanBrrr
4 ай бұрын
53:31 horrible take
@Bigmacben
4 ай бұрын
Cubby pulling the same trash 2 week break content take twice made me stop watching the show
@LaMortdeMarat
2 ай бұрын
Not sure what I expected but MarkZ is giving hard riot shill vibes. Also kinda lame to see him get frustrated with every caller's takes. Why even do the show? Dude had a victim complex going on
@Luckypants2113
4 ай бұрын
The un broad casted games take is so dumb. What is he even babbling about? Just dont watch the imt dig game bro. Horrible take.
@falsearbitrator2560
4 ай бұрын
I love you mark, but thats a cop out answer, its naive to ignore the logic regardless if we have the numbers. Na viewership is down, and in an na league with na sponsors, they are the most important demographic
@mithrilblue
4 ай бұрын
Wow never thought Mark was even capable of shilling. Sheesh.
@Pandoso01
4 ай бұрын
58:48 you can incentivize teams to make good roasters too, if you get 7th and 8th you would get less broadcast games for next split. you will just appear on the broadcast if you play a good team or elimination matches or whatever. sounds reasonable. as a fan I'll be hyped to watch a team get "demoted" to a vod only team that's how we can get relegations back lol
@CouskousGO
4 ай бұрын
Bad take because then low view teams will just stay low view teams and never have growth. Instead they should mandate the teams to publish a growth plan of how they will improve and what resources they will use to improve viewership/fan base (like a two year plan). They can also force low ranking teams to promote their teams by forcing them to stream 3-5 hours a week to promote their fan base. That would be better than letting a team turn to dust and waste resources. If we do what you say Cloud 9 and TL will always remain at the top because other teams have no incentive to improve.
@BorisTheGoose92
4 ай бұрын
Also a good way to reduce sponsorship in the space for teams. If 2 teams are no longer sponsored they can't succeed financially. People complain "why even have these 2 bottom teams they can't compete" or those teams ask Riot to leave the scene just like the last 2 teams. Then you keep the same rule again? Perpetual cycle. The whole point of franchising was to secure sponsorships that the team will be there year to year.
@panda93247
4 ай бұрын
How to make younger players interested in LoL: Stop putting brand new players up against diamond-level players in their first games. Full stop. My sister-in-law has been trying to learn the game, but every game she plays, she is being put against people that are WAY above her level. My brother and I can't queue with her because it only makes things worse, and it is making the game IMPOSSIBLE to learn for her. Fix this and you have your young players recruitment solved.
@Pofiveddie
4 ай бұрын
The quality and production of LCS is declining.
@DJ-se5pl
4 ай бұрын
I swear mark is shooting himself in the foot here. Dude cant talk about anything, and gets pissed off when a viewer asks valid questions, then dodges the entire shows talking point. Felt like there was literally no point in running this episode other than just having mark and travis do content together. Fat L for the lcs here
@bruceharrison884
4 ай бұрын
I'm so tired of LCS and Travis saying things like NA never beats the other regions when it's obvious that LCS plays the least amount of stage games. Why do you guys keep making excuses and think that NA will ever bridge the gap when other regions undoubtedly are more tuned into the meta, patch after patch. BECAUSE THEY PLAY MORE GAMES. You guys have slammed the scrim schedules and say that it's on the players. The reason esports is even a thing is because of incentives for winning.
@TravisGafford
4 ай бұрын
Except we have empirical evidence that disputes this.
@bruceharrison884
4 ай бұрын
@@TravisGaffordWoah, I got a real time response. Thanks Travis. Long time listener. Love your content of course. Can you point me in the direction of this evidence? My qualm is that from the outside perspective, every region plays more games. With the assumption that other regions have the same scrim schedule, the only thing fans can point to is that they play more stage games and have better success. NA won when the game was fresh and presumably had a jump start before the game became prolific in other regions. While I have your ear, when did you get family in Austin Texas? I live here and also have been playing commander for a few years now.
@AngelsoftyGaming
4 ай бұрын
6th
@MegaBamPow
4 ай бұрын
whiney baby alert
@Jose-cr3zn
4 ай бұрын
Bo3 worst decision Riot has made in awhile. Triple round Robin bo1 is so much better
@Jose-cr3zn
4 ай бұрын
Love you MarkZ but pretending you can only afford a small theater or lasers is just not believable and sad. Also what opening ceremony did you even do for finals I didn't see any opening ceremony that was worth literally anything.
@dpb22
4 ай бұрын
Pretending the LCS is flush with cash and full of sponsors is delusional. Its so bad that two teams took their $10 million investment into the league and literally flushed it down a toilet because nobody would buy it from them.
@Jose-cr3zn
4 ай бұрын
@dpb22 I could buy lasers off Amazon rn they would only have to pay for the venue he could have just said that but he is pretending other things are the problem. If it's that bad then he could say something
@fullmetal929
4 ай бұрын
@Jose-cr3zn Lmao, I understand that you've probably never had to help plan a huge event like this, but you HAVE to understand that there's way more that goes into it than just renting a venue. Not only is the venue millions of dollars all on it's own, but you also have to pay, cover lodging, provide transportation, and buy food for hundreds of employees, hire contractors to set up and tear down, pay to have tons of servers, computers and equipment transported to and from the venue, pay any other people that go into a big production like that (musical performers, security, guest streamers, etc, depending on how each stadium operates), pay employees to plan all of this for months and months in advance, etc etc. There are SO many other expenses that go into a big event like that that the venue probably isn't even a majority of the cost. Don't get me wrong, I'm also pissed about only having 1 road show a year, but acting like they can "just rent a venue" and show up is real silly.
@Jose-cr3zn
4 ай бұрын
@fullmetal929 they definitely can just rent the venue though. I can't believe NA fans are standing for this. Riot has the money don't even tell me they don't because regular season LPL games are being played in stadiums now. Riot crying boo no sponsors LCS gets to suffer won't attract more sponsors. Why doesn't Riot take the loss of operating the LCS during esports winter to provide an amazing product and show sponsors what they can do on their own to attract more healthy partnerships. The truth is Riot doesn't believe in LCS and doesn't care what happens to it and we are all fed lies about it.
@xxRockyBxx
4 ай бұрын
Tencent stopped footing majority of the bill for Riot global. VC money and sponsors made up for the money💰 for LCS. VC money got burnt from years of snake oil salesman in esports. And in a recession sponsors are more conservative especially something niche like league.Tencent more willing to fund Chinese league or lpl 🇨🇳. Makes sense when the playerbase is mostly from China.
@IJustStoleaNoob
4 ай бұрын
During the break week. We should see aram fun tournies any of the game modes that are available
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