Folks asking where is Bret and the channel giving really vague answers. How hard is it to just explain that he has left the channel and moved on to other things? If that's what in fact happened. I greatly enjoyed this clip too, but was totally expecting to see Bret.
@MOTOTREK
4 жыл бұрын
mototrek.net/2020/03/04/hey-wheres-bret/
@Andrew-vz3qk
4 жыл бұрын
@@MOTOTREK also, brets videos had the thing where he took off his helmet and the editing made it seem like he was wearing his hat underneath the helmet. If you carry this onto your new presenter (cause it was a subtle and pretty funny joke) it would help carry on your channel culture.
@shinepen9903
4 жыл бұрын
Bret is in New Zealand doing talk series at the moment. Going to see him tmr in Auckland.
@ScottHomeVideos
4 жыл бұрын
Brett does all kinds of cool secret squirrel government shit, he'll probably be back in a few months
@natebraun1
4 жыл бұрын
He said he is parting ways with this channel, and any new videos he does will on his own channel and website.
@ashbrooks5581
4 жыл бұрын
Dusty was one of my instructors at RawHyde a few years ago and also one of the best. Good to see you again and keep the vids coming!!
@west38moto53
4 жыл бұрын
Thanks Ash!
@broboman7435
3 жыл бұрын
"My name is dusty and I ride lots of dirt."
@tshansen
4 жыл бұрын
I'm amazed by all the details that are spot on in every edit you guys put out. Amazing production, and really covering important subjects :-) Thank you, by far one of mye most viewed channel in here :-) Thank you
@MOTOTREK
4 жыл бұрын
Thank you, Thomas!
@pwestjr
4 жыл бұрын
I am a huge Brett fan but I am also a huge Dusty fan as well. He did instruct my beginner off-road training too!
@west38moto53
4 жыл бұрын
Thanks Pete! I am a big fan of Bret too! His videos are great!
@williamperrin990
4 жыл бұрын
@@west38moto53 Thanks so much to both of you. You guys are the people we need as new or aging riders to learn and gain knowledge which is critical to safe riding IMO. I know so many guys that get their license and just go (usually on a 600lb + big hog) without learning anything new!
@JohannesDalenMC
3 жыл бұрын
@@west38moto53 Quick question regarding initiating the turn on gravel. You said to put weight on inside peg, but what do you do at the handle bars? I assume you dont do as on the street, where you push one side to initiate countersteering. Naturally I just press the handlebars with both hands to the side I’m turning. Thanks!
@rangeroadmoto
4 жыл бұрын
All I can think while watching this is .. man Gs1200’s are big
@MOTOTREK
4 жыл бұрын
Yes!
@damham5689
4 жыл бұрын
This video is great for all types of riders. 👍👍 Here in parts of the midwest they still chip and oil roads out in the countryside. The roads are usually find but pea gravel seems to accumulate on tighter curves. So you can go from high traction to low traction quickly and without much warning and can really ruin your days. I will be using the tips in this video for sure, for both on and off road riding .
@MOTOTREK
4 жыл бұрын
Right on!
@breakM
4 жыл бұрын
These vids are great. I'm (or was) a new rider, did corners slow sitting, then standing up but in line with the bike lean, ran over patch of loose more grainy gravel on normal gravel road and had shit pants moment as front washed out a bit even though regained grip soon, and immediately I reflex slammed inner foot down. Felt lucky as there was no damage, searched online, watched mototrek vids about putting foot down lightly only for your own and not bikes balance, and brets version of this gravel corners vid with outside lean and vision. Practiced it, felt really weird for months. Later on natural and way safer, (also faster) allows you to have front wash out and you still have balance while "waiting" for grip again which often is regained if you dont apply brakes. Other vids like weightless rider also helped a lot. We dont all have pro riding buddies to learn from.
@MOTOTREK
4 жыл бұрын
Glad our videos are helping! Thx for the feedback.
@janbergersen2498
4 жыл бұрын
Why are you all so obsessed with where Brett is? The world is changing continously. Move with it. Nothing lasts forever, which is mostly good. Dusty here does a great jobb. Explains well, seems like a nice guy, rides well. Good job, great video! Thanks!
@MOTOTREK
4 жыл бұрын
Thanks, Jan!
@west38moto53
4 жыл бұрын
Thank you !
@joshbro99k96
4 жыл бұрын
It all clicked for me when I went on a course and realised I shouldn't be leaning down *with* the bike as I would on the road, but staying upright and leaning the bike underneath me. Suddenly made me feel safer - now I can power slide without panicking for a washout. Unfortunately I now do the same on the road and can't break the habit...
@MOTOTREK
4 жыл бұрын
Nice, David! Offroad techniques work great on the pavement.
@aaassaeer
4 жыл бұрын
Yup, I do the same on the road as well. I live in a place where the road itself isn't always in the best condition and I just tend to use off-road style out of pure habit.
@zeez17
4 жыл бұрын
pretty much the same here.. feels more confident to stay upright or lean a bit out even on normal roads now
@elgringoec
4 жыл бұрын
Ya wanna be able to catch the bike if it makes a sudden slip out. That said, the more the bike's leaned, the more likely to slip out. The reason we shift our weight to the inside is so we don't have to lean the bike as far for the same trajectory/velocity. But as we lean in our leverage to catch the bike decreases. It's a balancing game with no universal correct answer, it's something to experiment with to find what works best for you. Also, Dusty is demonstrating standing technique here. I can definitely cook corners faster and powerslide with more confidence and competence when sitting. It's a little hard to describe exactly what we do because it's more of an ingrained response than a thought process. Don't be afraid to slide, front and back, it's great training for that time you lose traction with no anticipation. For all the virtues of traction, losing traction is quite fun and instructive, just tackle it judiciously. Eventually you build that ingrained response and then give no actual thought to the details of what you're doing.
@Angry-Lynx
4 жыл бұрын
@@elgringoec wow.i just posted comment with very similar.observations, there must be something to it, good point about catching bike too ... Also so true about no universal or 'true' answer to this issue, its much more complex than it looks
@danbolin8263
4 жыл бұрын
Great Video, thanks Dusty for taking the time to help us become better dual sport riders. When I first started riding dirt and gravel I struggled with faster turns. I watched some videos and took some advance training. But with all of that , until I made a trip up to Wisconsin where some of the roads were similar to what Dusty was on, I was able to take a section and ride that section over and over again making changes to my form, speed, weight transfer etc, etc. My point is all the videos and training will only give you a good base to start. Until you get out there and practice, make a mistake, correct that mistake and move on, will you see the greatest improvement.
@west38moto53
4 жыл бұрын
Dan Bolin great point! I have failed so many times at so many of these techniques to finally learn how they all work. Practice, practice, practice!
@BrassLock
4 жыл бұрын
@@west38moto53 Its often hard to find a loose surface (gravel) place to practise that has no obstructions or other traffic. Years ago in Western Australia, we had a few abandoned WW2 gravel airstrips that were perfect for such activities. Perhaps you can search Google Maps for such places, and with some luck get one near you.
@GuidedMotorbikeTours
4 жыл бұрын
Bret is gone, long live Bret, but I'm kinda liking this new guy. Works for me! 👍
@AdventureGlide
2 жыл бұрын
This is my second favorite channel on KZitem. Next to my own. LOL. There is nothing better than power sliding around a corner on a 600-pound ADV Bike.
@tuliprhonda
4 жыл бұрын
Biggest question I have is how you wear your hat under your helmet.
@west38moto53
4 жыл бұрын
Thanks Tulip! Haha, I am actually wearing a bandana or buff under under my helmet. If you look at 1:14, you can see the bandana come off and me pull my hat out of my jacket. You also see why I wear a bandana and a hat...haha :-)
@tuliprhonda
4 жыл бұрын
@@west38moto53 Mystery solved! Thanks! :)
@marimuthusrm2773
4 жыл бұрын
Very use ful video thanks for uploading
@mithunkartha
4 жыл бұрын
Brett has probably moved on. People do that you know. Great instruction from the new guy. Tnx!
@west38moto53
4 жыл бұрын
Thanks Mithum!
@vsimileac
4 жыл бұрын
Perfect video. Yes, we will always compare with Bret but it because he set up the level high. This video is the same level.
@MOTOTREK
4 жыл бұрын
You are very kind. Thank you!
@twohouses2259
3 жыл бұрын
Going fast on dirt / gravel is fun....but it’s also inherently dangerous. It’s a great skill to have and for the noob’s watching the video you certainly do a great job of explaining the nuances. But - and perhaps you could also stress; at some point, a large percentage of people will bin it - it’s the nature of the beast. Some will do it slowly, others at speed..but the end result will be the same. If it were me, I’d be telling folks - “OK, learn how to do this, but practice, practice and practice. Be prepared to bin the bike at some point and preferably try going doing this with friends.” I use to live in Payson...know the whole area pretty well. I also use to ( but no longer...) ride all the time alone. Extremely experienced rider, but even experienced riders lay it over. Now, try doing this on a nice hot day in AZ......all alone, no cellular service....110 in the shade....and you hit one of those oh so nice deep pockets of sand in a rut - down you go. Bike catches rut, stands up, tosses you and then bee-lines it into a boulder by the side of the road, bounce of that and goes 15 feet down an embankment. Some ego bruising and a machine who won’t start and even if it could, theres no way in hell to get it back up the bank. ....It’s 110 in the shade remember. Some of these “Roads”....never see another soul for hours....days even. I always carry a SPOT....for times like this. Just in case. Hoofing it back to a point where one can get cell service ( if you can...) in full boots, textile pants and your now empty camel back; that’s when sliding and going quick on dirt roads becomes really REAL. So, my point is, as good as this video is - Perhaps having some safety information in it would be good - Things like - Try to practice when you are with another mate; if you can’t and it’s quite rural - let people know where you are and carry something like a SPOT in case it all turns to custard. Don’t become complacent and think because you can control some drifts, that now’s a time to take one’s eyes of the road and look at the scenery - I did once, won’t admit it so don’t ask. End result was a heart stopping deep gravel / sand / up bank / back down ride that taught me a lesson. Know one’s environment and prepare accordingly. One camel back won’t last long if you are on foot and it’s a scorcher. Two hrs of walking and it will be done and in AZ in summer - it can be a death sentence. So yeah, would be nice to see some “caveat’s”. Cheers. Educate people I think, that would make a great video even better.
@roadracingrelics
3 жыл бұрын
At 4 :012 you say something along the lines of, "....the contact patch is decreasing and if you add weight to that, that's where you start to feel the wash...." First: how do you change the load on either the front or rear contact patch by shifting your weight laterally? You can change the load longitudinally by shifting weight from front to rear, but the only thing that changes when you shift weight laterally is the bikes lean angle. Second: If the aim is to avoid "the wash" on a decreasing contact patch area then, just as in road riding, having your weight outside causes the bike to have to lean more, further reducing the contact patch area. Third: You are substantially upright, does the contact patch area really change significantly? I'm sure the technique you are describing is correct, but the explanation doesn't seem quite right.
@dog4mike
3 жыл бұрын
My palms were sweaty just watching this! I don't ride on dirt often, just when I need to get from one paved road to the next and unsealed is the only option. But I always take it sooooo slow because I just don't know how far I can push it. This is such good information. I've been trying to practice standing and putting weight on the pegs, but I didn't really know how to best do that. This will be very useful next time (although I'll still go slow while I practice!)
@jjustj
4 жыл бұрын
YO Dusty , was that the traction control kicking in when at the start o vid you were sliding?? The Colorado plate gave it away right away! Carry on
@west38moto53
4 жыл бұрын
Haha, nice catch J! Not traction control, I actually did an oops! I let up on the rear brake just a bit (BAD Dusty) :-)
@SuperBardley
4 жыл бұрын
@@west38moto53 Hey Dusty, what are your thoughts about the various electronic gizmos on your bike? I have a 2017 Rallye (after 2001 & 2005 GS’s) and ride it off-road on pretty fun fire roads and trails just like shown in your recent vids. It seems like the Dynamic suspension modes are pretty darn good - it has easily handled the single tracks I’ve thrown at it, with good blocky tires of course.
@HardwareG33k
4 жыл бұрын
This is EXACTLY the video I needed. Awesome :)
@MOTOTREK
4 жыл бұрын
Perfect!
@charlesmize3941
4 жыл бұрын
Are those plates on your lower crash bars(seen at 2:27 in) custom built or an off the shelf option? They look great for protection from large protruding rocks on a fall.
@west38moto53
4 жыл бұрын
Charles Mize Ricochet! They are great!
@doktorsalami9315
4 жыл бұрын
I always get told I shouldn't go offroad with my under 200 kg 650 GS cause it was to heavy. How does that fit together with you guys rocking those tanks on any terrain?
@MOTOTREK
4 жыл бұрын
Lighter is better off-road, DS.
@tolga1cool
4 жыл бұрын
Gravel tracks aren't really Offroad, it's just that the road isn't paved. Taking a GS on a single track (what most people would definitely consider off-road) the heavy bike will be a handfull
@orangelion03
4 жыл бұрын
It's only 15Kg heavier than my XR650L. I also ride a R1200GS and took some training from a guy that rides his 650GS Dakar on single track and technical stuff. Skill goes a long way.
@Angry-Lynx
4 жыл бұрын
Bikes not too heavy, they just lack skill to ride it,.or are.just too weak, lol
@KaizerBillimoria
Жыл бұрын
Here, in my latitudes, we just blast the horn on blind corners. Louder the horn, bigger the vehicle is perceived to be.
@kierenmoore3236
4 жыл бұрын
So, basically, the opposite of track/sport body positioning ... ?
@west38moto53
4 жыл бұрын
Good question Kieren. I am not a track rider and have never been trained or ridden on a track. However, to answer your question quickly and easily, yes. We want our weight outside, not inside of the turn when turning on dirt or gravel.
@Angry-Lynx
4 жыл бұрын
@@west38moto53 can you explain why yoy think.that? My observation shows something opposite, i described it in my other.comment under this.vid
@swampmonster8626
3 жыл бұрын
@@Angry-Lynx I see it as totally counter intuitive, just watching made me cringe. Way too easy to high side it, next thing ya know, that large bike is riding you. No way not for me...
@Angry-Lynx
3 жыл бұрын
update from me: yes, leaning out is definitely proper technique for offroad, esp in technical and low traction enviro
@Angry-Lynx
3 жыл бұрын
when moving attacking aggresively technical forest trials what I observed works really nice is just steer by leaning bike, and you stay upright, dont lean at all, works awesome and with throttle you can do nice skids/short controller drifts. never fell using that technique yet :)
@edgarbleikur1929
4 жыл бұрын
I only come for the... music...
@MOTOTREK
4 жыл бұрын
Right on, Edgar!
@Makermook
4 жыл бұрын
Excellent summary, Dusty. I'm relatively new to non-pavement riding, so I've been super timid on gravel. Now I've got some tips to try.
@west38moto53
4 жыл бұрын
Thanks Mark!
@johnnygross4415
4 жыл бұрын
When I was younger on dirt bikes, hauled ass, now 70 on a 650 versys, not so fast
@aeccurtiswlambert7866
4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video. The explanations were easy to grasp. However, I'll never be an advocate of speed while riding alone on gravel. But then, I've been a street rider for 50 of my 55 riding years.Enjoyed the video!
@west38moto53
4 жыл бұрын
Thanks Curtis! I agree, knowing when and where to add speed is critical. Also, riding in our comfort zones is the most important thing of all.
@dashford06
4 жыл бұрын
In road racing and spirited road riding we shift our body to the inside to lean the bike less, thus maximizing then contact patch available. Why wouldn’t that same idea apply off road? Always been curious about this.
@west38moto53
4 жыл бұрын
Good question. The biggest difference is traction. Pavement provides a higher level of traction than dirt surfaces (generally). On dirt, when the traction is less and the surface is more loose, if we add our weight (lean in) to a bike that is already leaned in to a corner, this starts a wobble or wash out of the front end. The reason is because the contact patch of the tire decreases once we lean into a turn (paved or dirt). So, the technique on dirt is to counter balance our weight (shift our mid section weight) to the outside or over the most vertical point on the bike to help stabilize it. Hope this makes sense.
@Angry-Lynx
4 жыл бұрын
Same applies to dirt, id say even more, you generally what to lean bike as little as possible. Those adv bikee have very high center of gravity,.and the you lean gravity pulls your bike exponentially harder to the ground... What i mean is just in offroad if yoy lean your adv bike too much no matter.how.good.traction or tires you have, it will fall to ground literally like stone.
@BIKERBYHEARTBng
4 жыл бұрын
Very informative 👍. Thanks for making such video
@citygs
4 жыл бұрын
But how do we go FASTER through corners on the dirt :) I’d like to learn to bring my rear around more. To slide through the turns.
@west38moto53
4 жыл бұрын
Good question. I may do a different video at some point explaining this technique, we'll see. Definitely a different strategy and changes a lot of what you do with body position.
@Angry-Lynx
4 жыл бұрын
Play with throttle, make sure you have better grip at front wheel than rear, tire pressures and thread are crucial, ill ride E07 rear and d606 front altough I heard mt21 is better front
@tuanoful
4 жыл бұрын
How do you avoid loosing the front tire? happened to me the other day. Almost fell
@west38moto53
4 жыл бұрын
Good question and may be hard for me to give a specific answer but I'll try. When I feel the front loosening up on me, it's usually because I am trying to steer too much or, holding on to the handlebars too tight. It's counter-intuitive, but loosen up your grip. The technique I use to help me with this is squeeze the tank/seat area with my knees. #1 I feel more stable when a lot of movement is happening underneath me. #2 It takes pressure off the bars and moves it my knees freeing up my hands to give more delicate input to the handlebars. Long winded answer: Our natural reaction when the front starts to move around uncomfortably is to grab the bars for stability, which makes total sense. However, it has a negative affect. So, by transferring stability to our knees, we can relax our hands and their grip and feel more stable. Hope this makes sense and helps!
@DrazenCika
4 жыл бұрын
@@west38moto53 In this context, when you start feeling the front was unstable, how do you decide if actually opening the throttle would be the right thing to do? I mean, if it was sand or mud and the front wheel started digging in, speeding up temporarily would help more than just keep going (and of course slowing again to keep reasonable pace once critical point was over). Is there similar situation to be found for gravel cornering? Any tips where speeding up or even sliding the rear wheel might be useful to keep stability? I have noticed in your video rear wheel sliding in a controlled way.
@SuperBardley
4 жыл бұрын
While Dusty didn’t come right out and specifically say it, STAND UP on those pegs! When on gravel at speed, the sitting rider will soon become the tumbling rider. It’s all about body position, and as Dusty pointed out, the tank grip is key, it also forces us to get our weight off the rear tire and more onto the front. That helps the front get a better bite and track better.
@tuanoful
4 жыл бұрын
@@SuperBardley So 2 days ago I went riding around a volcano. The roads were complete dust, fine sand, or whatever that's called. It was 100% wobble and I went down once. Soft landing though. I must mention I was 2up lol...
@SuperBardley
4 жыл бұрын
JustThaor Thaor I’m sorry to hear about your tumble! I hope you, you passenger, and your bike are okay.
@Pcfly
4 жыл бұрын
Dusty.......you rat bastard! You’re a moooovie Star! 🤘🏽😂
@christophermanetta1219
4 жыл бұрын
West38Moto is the bomb! I’ve taken Dusty’s course and it’s phenomenal! Awesome to see him on this channel!
@west38moto53
4 жыл бұрын
Thanks Chris!
@jwest764
Жыл бұрын
I'm new to riding and find it really hard to keep my weight on the outside peg. This video is exactly what I was looking for. It answered all the questions I keep asking myself when I'm riding with great visual demonstration, it's perfect. Thanks.
@Carlos-my8bh
4 жыл бұрын
Awesome job on the video Dusty!!! Keep them coming!
@stephenwarren55
4 жыл бұрын
I always hear about how riders should use their pegs to steer their motorcycles. My friend John and I have spirited discussions about whether using a person's feet to steer their motorcycles to significantly turn, actually works. I believe that the Keith Code experiments prove that putting weight on pegs does NOT significantly help a person steer a motorcycle. I have challenged many people who believe, as you believe ... to remove their hands from their handlebars and make spirited turns by using ONLY their feet on the pegs to steer their motorcycles. They can't do it. Please SHOW me, that a motorcycle can make sharp, CONTROLLED turns, while the motorcyclist is NOT holding the handlebars and is only using the weight transfer of his feet on his foot pegs. Thank you, Stephen Warren.
@west38moto53
4 жыл бұрын
Stephen Warren excellent point Stephen! I agree! I should have talked more about the relationship between “adding” steering with the feet to compliment normal handlebar steering. I’ll get better at the details as I do more. Your comment could be an entire video on it’s own. Steering...the relationship between hands and feet. What to use and when. Pavement techniques of counter steering off road...Thank you!
@Arachnoid_of_the_underverse
4 жыл бұрын
Great video Dusty I look forward to seeing more of your off road tips.
@west38moto53
4 жыл бұрын
Thanks Andi!
@kloppskalli
4 жыл бұрын
3:05 ... I didnt know i have to make an 'S' with my body :-)) ... i think DON'T LEAN in is all you need to know and that (careful) one finger FRONT BRAKE action isn't gonna send you off into the shrubs, but it helps to shift some weight to the front when needed to slow down. Doing all the breaking with a then sliding rear tire isnt goina do the job at all!
@west38moto53
4 жыл бұрын
Haha...that kinda does look like an "S". It's more shifting weight than leaning. Yes!!! One finger on the front brake! Haha, yeah the speed and fun stuff shown in the video is a bit deceiving, I wasn't going that fast. You are correct, if we go too fast and spin the rear wheel out too much, braking safely will be more difficult. Thank you!
@ronthompson9555
4 жыл бұрын
So you're on a Bavarian Motor Werke, but what about a KTM Adventure bike? Or just about any KTM. (XR's too) They have a really bad push and it makes you feel like, and does lose the front end. Don't ask how I know. 520 bit me and my 990 feels like an Indy car on gravel. Yes, both these vile beasts have big rear tires and loads of grunt that over powers the front traction, but it does it under deceleration too. The only way I can navigate gravel or loose dirt turns is like a flat tracker, power sliding. Kicking the rear out puts the power at an angle towards the apex & into my turning direction helping to push the front wheel in the direction I want to go. Instead of towards the outside of the turn. I've tried climbing on the tank, standing with weight on the outside peg, all the fun stuff you just shot, but the outcome is still the same. The front scrubs and pushes to the outside. Worst is a down hill off camber...
@Angry-Lynx
4 жыл бұрын
That's interesting observation, i have 950 adv and dont have problems.you.describe, what.tires you use and what pressures? Try lean IN corner sometimes, also powersliding isnt bad idea imo sometimes i feel like when i enter turn too fast i should give throttle.instead of slowing down for better chance of surviving turn 😂
@fabienpics
4 жыл бұрын
THANK YOU FOR THIS REVIENS 👍👍👍 great info and video are Pro super shooting 👍👍👍
@Pflasterbicker
4 жыл бұрын
I'm wondering, where is Bret? Have I missed some Information?
@MOTOTREK
4 жыл бұрын
BretTkacs.com
@Pflasterbicker
4 жыл бұрын
@@MOTOTREK Yes, he does have an Webpage, I know. Where is the Answer?
@MOTOTREK
4 жыл бұрын
I think Bret is in New Zealand.
@jnavonoD
4 жыл бұрын
@@MOTOTREK Awesome, I live in New Zealand, I'll keep an eye out for him ;-) (we all know one another in NZ, there's only 4.8 million of us here).
@aeon8721
4 жыл бұрын
@@jnavonoD check out the Shiny Side Up Bike Fest events. He's presenting.
@bonesworld7178
4 жыл бұрын
I love it! We get a bunch of excellent presenters on this channel! Love Brett miss Brett but he will be back! Nice job Dusty
@west38moto53
4 жыл бұрын
Thanks Chris! I am a big fan of Bret's too. His videos are great!
@hwobstj
4 жыл бұрын
Dusty’s a great guy! Ride with him, I have and he’s an awesome dude!
@west38moto53
4 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@MotoJournoKris
4 жыл бұрын
Great video, very informative.
@MOTOTREK
4 жыл бұрын
Thank you, Kris!
@Propelled
4 жыл бұрын
One thing Dusty’s doing here a lot he didn’t talk about is you can clearly see when he’s going really quickly through the corner is driving the front through the corner with the rear. A great rider can control it himself but a so so rider like myself can put his traction control in a medium range and let the bike do it. It’ll let the rear slip to the outside without washing out and keeps the front tire pointed to the inside of the corner. It will feel like you’re carving the corner instead of steering through it. Like Dusty says, look through the corner. Problem I’ve seen a lot of guys doing is cutting a blind corner. Easy way to become a hood ornament. I don’t agree with fixing on the farthest point. I prescribe to Kieth Code’s method of sweeping, near to far. I’ve avoided more than a few flats by dodging sharp rocks or a pothole. The hazard is fixating on it and hitting. Getting in the habit of looking where you want your tires to end up where the thing isn’t takes practice. If you’re always just looking down the road, a chunk of angle iron, sharp rock, or rut edge can ruin your day. Sweep far to near all the time in corners. Just a few ideas.
@west38moto53
4 жыл бұрын
I agree about scanning the road with vision, has saved me a few times as well! I refer to Brett's video on vision for reference. He does a great job explaining it in detail and touches on what you are saying. Thanks for the comments.
@ddzimmermaniii
4 жыл бұрын
Excellent topic, thanks for sharing. Also, your comments below about front wheel traction were helpful. The front is always the one I worry about losing. Perhaps you could add it to a future edit to the video.
@MOTOTREK
4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the feedback, Dan.
@AreOut
4 жыл бұрын
Dusty..name certainly checks out
@west38moto53
4 жыл бұрын
Haha...yeah that wasn't planned :-)
@gregperinguey
4 жыл бұрын
Hey Dusty, what tires are those? Seem to work well?
@west38moto53
4 жыл бұрын
Greg Peringuey MotoZ Tractionator RallZ
@solstar4778
4 жыл бұрын
Slow down in your talking Jesse! Excellent kickstand that keeps the bike up when parked !
@an3880
4 жыл бұрын
I agree. A little less speed in talking would be nice for me (german)
@MOTOTREK
4 жыл бұрын
Will do. Sorry about that.
@edgarbleikur1929
4 жыл бұрын
Fantastic personality for this instructional video genre and great advice from viewers = winnning!!
@west38moto53
4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the tip Sol! Haha, I noticed the same thing in spots...I get excited when talking and explaining riding techniques. Noted!
@pwestjr
4 жыл бұрын
I knew that was Dusty at the beginning of the intro!
@ronanrogers4127
4 жыл бұрын
I’m certainly no Chris Birch or Adam Riemann, but that looked like pretty slow cornering to be honest. Maybe I’m a speed demon after all.
@west38moto53
4 жыл бұрын
Ronan Rogers haha I am neither of those guys either! This was relatively slow cornering. I didn’t get out of 2nd gear. We decided cornering at speed (faster than first gear) would be a good lesson. We discussed “high” speed cornering and may do a video on that at some point. Thanks for the comment!
@paulguilfoil8930
4 жыл бұрын
Is the technique described in this video suitable for BOTH uphill and downhill cornering? Because, you know, hills.
@west38moto53
4 жыл бұрын
Paul Guilfoil great question and my answer is no. This was flat grade riding only. We will do an uphill and downhill cornering video for sure. Some similarities, but way less focus on speed.
@C4H10N4O2
4 жыл бұрын
It sure is easier on a 6 meters wide flat dirt road ! It must be really nice to practice, I'm pretty jealous... Were I live if you ride above 30km/h you're gonna crash. There is no nice dirt roads, just hard and slippery dirt, single track, with less than 10 meters visibility. Big holes everywhere, thick roots, rocks, you name it. So I'm pretty confident in my hability to crawl over anything, but I'm useless above second gear.
@west38moto53
4 жыл бұрын
Doh! Not sure I would want to ride my overweight water buffalo in that kind of terrain ;-) I agree, it is much easier to ride on wider roads with nice terrain. If you ever get the chance, Arizona is a fantastic state to ride in!
@C4H10N4O2
4 жыл бұрын
@@west38moto53 Haha, I ride a 650 lightened to 160 kilos, and that's clearly the maximum I'm confident riding around here Yeah it sure sounds nice !
@UncleMullet
3 жыл бұрын
Fantastic tips! I would add that you can certainly break in a turn, agreed that it should be an emergency stopping maneuver, but simply get the bars & bike straight.
@UncleMullet
3 жыл бұрын
I would also add that I should use reading glasses when using text to talk and realized my comment chose the word "break" instead of brake...
@lgcabrera
4 жыл бұрын
Was expecting to see Bret... but the new guy is not dissapointing! Good luck to Bret on your new endeavours and welcome Dusty!
@west38moto53
4 жыл бұрын
Luis Cabrera thank you!
@bridgestreetgolf
4 жыл бұрын
This was very good instruction, Dusty, for those like us living surrounded by Tonto National Forest and riding dirt roads just to get to the main streets for groceries (ha!). Thanks!
@west38moto53
4 жыл бұрын
Haha nice! Thanks Thomas!
@dalemseitzer
3 жыл бұрын
I Recognized that road, cool. I have a much smaller bike and get good results even by just moving to one butt cheek and knee in the tank to support the turning lean. I have watched flat track racers do the same body movements. It does take intention to make the shift from pavement to dirt.
@MOTOTREK
3 жыл бұрын
Dale - we were excited to find that road! It was the perfect filming location for this demo.
@twotiretirade4624
4 жыл бұрын
Way to explain it in simplicitic terms. Thanks for the information
@robglassgold
4 жыл бұрын
Missing the White Rimed Reflectoids Dusty. Great job on the vid! Excellent communication skills.
@west38moto53
4 жыл бұрын
Robert Glass haha thanks Rob! Glasses don’t mix well on camera 😎👊 Hope you are well my friend.
@onthemoonman
4 жыл бұрын
thanks, nice tips! would love to hear something about traction control and abs on gravy roads also.
@ernestozilberberg257
4 жыл бұрын
Really liked the video. Hopefully Bret will be back. High quality content and great video editing from this channel.
@MOTOTREK
4 жыл бұрын
Much appreciated, Ernesto!
@harf4ng
4 жыл бұрын
Always great videos on this channel. Though there's a part I didn't really understood what you said... the only time you use brake in a corner... (can't understand what's next) and then using brake in a corner can make you crash, or something like that. What am I missing? Seeing those videos make we want to go offroad. Though I'm not ready yet ^^
@west38moto53
4 жыл бұрын
Hi Julien, thanks for the question. I mentioned you don't want to use your brakes while you are in the corner at all. This could cause a crash. I also mentioned to be aware of your speed (momentum control) going into a blind corner. If you don't know what is on the other side, you may have to make an emergency stop. Basically, the only time you want to brake coming out of a corner is in an emergency situation. Hope that helps.
@harf4ng
4 жыл бұрын
@@west38moto53 thanks for the explanation. The place you are looks like a very cool place for off-road riding :) but I'm a bit too far away, in France :)
@Brad-RB
4 жыл бұрын
If you're shifting your weight to the outside, are you counter steering at all or just inside peg pressure?
@west38moto53
4 жыл бұрын
Great question Brad. In this situation at speed, I am not really steering or counter steering unless I brake the rear wheel loose (on purpose). Cornering at speed without breaking the rear wheel loose, I am using my mid section weight, knees in the tank and yes, feet on the pegs for stability. The inside peg pressure helps steer the bike and stabilize my body.
@romodin1
4 жыл бұрын
Hi I so like this. What it location ? It so nice
@MOTOTREK
4 жыл бұрын
Did you watch the first shot in the video?
@whois_jude
4 жыл бұрын
I feel this video lacks responsibility. All well and good to instruct how to corner faster but to omit what to do in an emergency situation (or gloss over it like you did) is like showing someone how to load a gun but not telling them how to operate the safety interlock.
@west38moto53
4 жыл бұрын
Jude Agar good point. I’ll think about that for future videos that are similar. We should do a video on emergency stopping or emergency situations. Thank you!
@doctorjustice
4 жыл бұрын
dirt bike steering method using gt bike
@MOTOTREK
4 жыл бұрын
Yep.
@64maxpower
4 жыл бұрын
I want to ride there
@tomusr84
4 жыл бұрын
What tires have You on the film? Are they enough ok on-road? Thanks for any information.
@west38moto53
4 жыл бұрын
Hi Tomasz. I am running the MotoZ Tractionator RallZ. Riding like this on and off road, I can get 6 to 7,000 miles on one set of tires. They are fine for me on road. I have over 40,000 miles on different sets of MotoZ tires and these are my favorite. motoz.com.au/product/tractionator-rallz/
@tomusr84
4 жыл бұрын
@@west38moto53 Thx for the information. Your opinion is very usefull for me.
@JorgeMoya
4 жыл бұрын
If I’m taking a corner while sitting, I understand I should put my weight to the outside, but does it matter if I put some extra weight in the pegs?
@MOTOTREK
4 жыл бұрын
You should be standing when cornering at speed.
@mvanstaagen
4 жыл бұрын
Great explansion on how to get a big heavy bike around a corner.... does it apply to something smaller in weight?
@west38moto53
4 жыл бұрын
Mike V certainly. However, with a smaller bike you are managing less weight so the body position and weight shifting may not be as pronounced.
@MrEdde79
4 жыл бұрын
Good video! Thanks!
@davereinhart9933
4 жыл бұрын
Great video and reminders! Adventure riding is just the best!
@MOTOTREK
4 жыл бұрын
Absolutely!!
@Crust2013
4 жыл бұрын
Aye this guys cheating taking inside line on blind corners... easy to use throttle to stair back end on low grip roads prevents drifting wide too.
@west38moto53
4 жыл бұрын
Crust2013 I/we were pretty focused on staying in the correct line when it was a teaching moment and not the fun “B” roll riding...did I get out of line a lot? Didn’t notice 🥴
@ankitnautiyal6133
4 жыл бұрын
My friends ride bike in corner with speed more than 40km/hr I am not even able to go with 20km/hr... Whenever gravel come to my path I always loose control don't know why this happen to me
@125KPH
3 жыл бұрын
Helmet to cap transition not as smooth as Bret's. Nevertheless content is good.
@MOTOTREK
3 жыл бұрын
Ha!
@rafasmiech6691
4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for lesson. Anyway background sound is awsome, only drums, blends perfectly with video.
@MOTOTREK
4 жыл бұрын
You're welcome!
@jhead5329
4 жыл бұрын
Baby chickens! Great video. Your training helped me get a lot more out of my bike
@curtn7076
3 жыл бұрын
Standing up on a flat corner doesn't make sense. Otherwise flat track racers would be doing it.
@MOTOTREK
3 жыл бұрын
Flat track bike aren't 500+ pounds (more with panniers) and the riders usually break traction and drift around corners. That's a separate video kzitem.info/news/bejne/tKhmsYp7kWOLa2U
@thoforn
4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the Learning bit Mototrek...I am a beginner since i bought a Honda Shadow 750 ace 1999 model last year,and had a few hours on it to learn and sit,balance and handling the bike,the last long route me and my teacher took was on gravel,learning to handle holes,pudles on the road and swinging..i was really exited how fast i got the handle the bike,so i felt secure..it put a big smile on my face that day..Shall take the MC license in the summer,a costly bit for me..Here in Norway..so when the roads here are snowfree,its out to ride around the neighborhood to learn what can happen in a slowspeed manner,use of braking,left and right,stops,turning..thats what i also learn from youtube to handle my bike the right way..
@MOTOTREK
4 жыл бұрын
Good luck with the Shadow and getting your license, Thor!
@thoforn
4 жыл бұрын
@@MOTOTREK Thanks :) Keep up the Learning bit to be a better,safer driver..you save life's with that :)
@casar.704
4 жыл бұрын
You seems a good guy, but I´ll have to get used to you, Brad :D I hope you´re Brad too, thats something you have to get used to to :D
@SammyLeeJ
4 жыл бұрын
Show off! LOL Love the videos thank you very much for sharing your insight and knowledge!
@west38moto53
4 жыл бұрын
Haha, thanks Lynn. Some things are more camera worthy than practical :-)
@brunoatdasilva
3 жыл бұрын
Great info and so accurate! when you go out there and push yourself on a big adventure bike such as a gs1200 adv or similar, you will immediately identify all aspects covered in this video. Well done!
@sandieguitoadult
4 жыл бұрын
Excellent explanation. Thank you.
@MOTOTREK
4 жыл бұрын
You are welcome!
@Nel.BZH29
4 жыл бұрын
Crystal clear, so easy, let's crash that now! (I meant try). As always, excellent videos, thanks.
@MOTOTREK
4 жыл бұрын
You're welcome!
@drzrider3440
4 жыл бұрын
Nice moskomoto bags. Love their stuff
@Jose59649
4 жыл бұрын
Nice bro !
@bikelikebeat7174
3 жыл бұрын
Really GREAT video Dusty! The hardest thing for me here is to give pressure on the internal peg but keep the balance of the body at the external, becouse if I focus to the external balance I start pushing too much on the external peg and the bike start keep straight instead of cornering. I would like to understand better the functions of the knees.
@GreenSweeper
4 жыл бұрын
Very informative and well done video, thanks!
@peterday7704
4 жыл бұрын
Great video Dusty! Thank you!
@karlhaeberle5268
4 жыл бұрын
Hi, what have been the motor settings at the GS to reduce the Traction Control? Was it Enduro or Enduro Pro?
@west38moto53
4 жыл бұрын
Karl Haeberle I am in Endoro Pro
@Christian-ve1wi
4 жыл бұрын
Thanks Dusty, great video enjoying the content and very useful and in all aspects of riding vision is one if the most important fundamental to get right first..
@west38moto53
4 жыл бұрын
Thanks Christian!
@UncleWally3
4 жыл бұрын
I did a long run on sand/gravel yesterday and things got very dicey. After the ride I searched KZitem to find out how to get my testicles to descend but, voila . . . this video appeared! Very helpful - thanks.
@jordan_drones
Жыл бұрын
A wonderful channel.. Teaching bike riding skills..I am watching the channel from Jordan.. I find great benefit in education lessons. I hope to get a suitable bike for me. I hold a bicycle driving license since 2006 thank you all.. You are really cool. AKRAM JORDAN 15-2-2023
@calin7017
4 жыл бұрын
Nothing teaches you to ride better than loose gravel and dirt roads. Having said that, I love that on this channel, those who show us how to ride know their job, how to explain and, my favorite, are articulate. Thanks.
@MOTOTREK
4 жыл бұрын
Right on, Calin!
@johnroethel5527
4 жыл бұрын
But But But hanging the rear wheel at 45 degrees around the corner looks so cool!!!!!!!!! Great vid by the way.
@MOTOTREK
4 жыл бұрын
Thanks! 👍
@west38moto53
4 жыл бұрын
Haha, and feels cool too ;-) Thanks John!
@zrkn1
4 жыл бұрын
Vision is so important these days what with all the 4X4 trucks, cars, sand rails and a dozen other off road vehicles in the deserts. Very nice to see riders in my home state AZ. share their skills. Thanks from Tim in Northern Mohave Desert. Watch out for the other guy.
@west38moto53
4 жыл бұрын
Thanks Tim!
@MOTOTREK
4 жыл бұрын
Agreed. Our cameraman David got taken out by a dune buggy on our way to film an episode in AZ last summer. mototrek.net/2019/07/23/living-legends-ted-simon-sam-manicom/
@thedarkknight4243
4 жыл бұрын
what if you suddenly meet a car, either stationary or coming towards you, on a narrow corner?
@MOTOTREK
4 жыл бұрын
Like Dusty says, you'd better be able to stop in time. Also - make sure you're in your lane.
@whois_jude
4 жыл бұрын
@@MOTOTREK lanes on gravel roads? ok whatever you say.
@MOTOTREK
4 жыл бұрын
Even on gravel roads without a painted center line drivers and riders should stay as much to the right (or sometimes left i.e. UK) as possible.
@simonturvey1493
4 жыл бұрын
Great video Dusty. Clear and informative. Looks like a beautiful part of the world.
@west38moto53
4 жыл бұрын
Thanks Simon! One of my favorite stretches to ride in a fantastic area of Arizona.
@simonturvey1493
4 жыл бұрын
@@west38moto53 I was surprised (in a good way) to see you in the video in two ways. One, as I am used to seeing Brett, but also because I have seen you on Bookface linked with Tom Thompson. I met him in Mongolia in 2018, he seems like a really decent bloke. Looking forward to seeing more videos from you.🙂
@west38moto53
4 жыл бұрын
@@simonturvey1493 Thanks Simon! Tom is a very decent bloke. Good friend and great guy to ride with!
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