Christian Contemporary Music: Don’t over play. Gospel Music: Hold my bible.
@zakreineke6674
4 жыл бұрын
Best comment!!
@giquo
4 жыл бұрын
Hahahah, go on top, I'm with you
@TubeYouScreen
4 жыл бұрын
Dude. for real. One’s super boring and ones pure fun.
@TheGrundigg
4 жыл бұрын
Adam needs to pin this!
@MCM686
4 жыл бұрын
Hahahaha good one.
@XWayOfficialChannel
4 жыл бұрын
"don't overplay, because this is about the Lord" J.S. Bach, an extremely devout Christian with insane 3-part counterpoint: "AM I A JOKE TO YOU?"
@FacePomagranate
4 жыл бұрын
To be fair, there were historically huge debates about how complicated music should be in church. Some churches weren't so hot about the idea of complex polyphony because you couldn't understand the text.
@jonkflurgen6975
4 жыл бұрын
3-part?? how about 6 PART BRO bach was on another fuckin LEVEL
@greghmn
4 жыл бұрын
Right, and he was a guy who frequently improvised during services and would write original music for an entire service only to play something completely different the next week. Dude was truly the Buckethead of his time.
@majav15mg
4 жыл бұрын
That’s a good point indeed. I just wish you had chosen another way of expressing it instead of this awfully overused meme.
@morricane5087
4 жыл бұрын
@@FacePomagranate True, even the notion of having more than four modes (which could *not* be transposed to different root notes), or of having improvisation or variation to begin with, so many things were once debated heavily... we've come a long way.
@silviomp
3 жыл бұрын
Chord: C Mr Guitar Player: I'll add a 9. Worship team leader: Time out, Paganini.
@k_bsh
3 жыл бұрын
😑😑😑😑😑
@BrettMarshallMusic
3 жыл бұрын
😂
@jonclark3421
3 жыл бұрын
I feel like Cadd9 is played more in worship arrangements then C. Especially in the key of G, cuz you don’t really have to move your fingers as much.
@silviomp
3 жыл бұрын
@@jonclark3421 It could be a hymn though
@jonclark3421
3 жыл бұрын
@@silviomp true true
@renatanovato9460
2 жыл бұрын
My grandma, who would be 101 years (now in 2022), hated the beatles. The music, the attitude, their hairs, the fact that my mom loved them. Well, everything. Then one day, she went to see a presentation of the orchestra I was playing in, and she cried when we played Yesterday. She said it was the most beautiful song she had listened.
@michaelowens5394
2 жыл бұрын
The King's Singers' covers of Beatles' songs, is what did it for me.
@renatanovato9460
2 жыл бұрын
@@michaelowens5394 don't know that one. Will check it out
Awww i love the Beatles and this made me so happy 🥰
@rachelivy9712
2 жыл бұрын
I heard a cover of yesterday that was a flute and a piano in a nice reverberant hotel lobby and it was the most beautiful thing I have ever heard.
@yael3326
4 жыл бұрын
"spirit lead me where my licks are without borders"
@mosesramirez6330
4 жыл бұрын
We will be watching your comment with great interest.
@oivindalvestad7130
4 жыл бұрын
«Where I jam to Muddy Waters»
@nolanr7679
4 жыл бұрын
Low key
@TheVigilantStewards
4 жыл бұрын
ahhhh haha good one!
@ForeverOfMusic
4 жыл бұрын
DEFGE-CD
@joaozubelli374
4 жыл бұрын
I lived to listen to Adam Neely playing a bass solo version of Oceans.
@OnTheLeftHandSide
4 жыл бұрын
It's so good I want the full verison!
@benmontey3438
4 жыл бұрын
Pretty awesome right
@EduardoGonzalez317
4 жыл бұрын
@@OnTheLeftHandSide please
@TackKeyNack
4 жыл бұрын
We need to see this!
@thphlln
4 жыл бұрын
a very moving version actually
@MusicisWin
4 жыл бұрын
[before christian rock was invented] *In mosh pit* wish i could do this for the lord
@Stevocan2
4 жыл бұрын
Crowd killing for Jesus
@jblue1622
4 жыл бұрын
Music is Win lol there is Death Metal, but I guess it’s Holy Metal
@thestonegoose
4 жыл бұрын
So, Slayer? Metallica?
@IOxyrinchus
4 жыл бұрын
I don’t want Metal with themes of god and religion, I want Metal about SATAN and EVIL and... SATAN.
@eliasaltman4439
4 жыл бұрын
“Let us praise the lord by opening this fucking pit”
@hedgeearthridge6807
2 жыл бұрын
Many Christians like myself hate it too, and not just because of the blandness, but the lyrics. Especially with Hillsong and Bethel, it's almost always milquetoast, meaningless, uninspired, formulaic, inoffensive, man-centered, hyper-emotional, excessively repetitive, and theologically incorrect. Like the joke how all of them have to rhyme "fire" and "desire". But Adam is exactly right about joy and creativity. We worship the God who created creativity and joy, so why on earth does the music have to be so repetitive, bland, and reserved? How many times is it repeated in the Psalms to MAKE A JOYFUL NOISE? Even if music is depressing or even horrifying, like "I Am" by P.O.D, that fits with all the times David wrote worship psalms while in the depths of his spiraling depression, crying out that he feels physically weak and drowning in despair. There is no limits here to what can be done, but CCM just doesn't understand that.
@100happythoughts
2 жыл бұрын
Can I follow you?
@manualboyca
2 жыл бұрын
I was going to comment saying basically the same thing.
@MrAdravix
2 жыл бұрын
I feel like when it comes to Christian music, Thousand Foot Krutch and P.O.D do an amazing job, its that exact concept that you're talking about. Even as a non religious person, their lyrics are so powerful and can be felt even if you aren't part of the faith, it isn't overbearing or pretentious or virtue signaling but personal, heartfelt, and passionate; exactly what Christian music should be going for in my irrelevant, non religious opinion.
@roul4842
2 жыл бұрын
@@MrAdravix Yess. TFK is honestly great.
@MarkFromHawaii
2 жыл бұрын
Every once in a while, CCM artists worship together with hymns. I think they recognize the need to get back to the heart of worship, so to speak. A couple years ago there was the Worship Circle project. Kim Walker Smith from Jesus Culture led "Jesus Paid It All": kzitem.info/news/bejne/uI6Fv5uEbJx6ZGk
@Ortizsensei
4 жыл бұрын
As someone who spent years involved with my church's worship team, I couldn't agree more with this. There was always this pressure and discouragement to not be musical, rather to just play the bare-bones song structures, because "it's not about you." While I still practice my faith, that kind of mentality about worship (among other problems in the church) honestly made me step down from it. I absolutely love music, and being told to not give my all into something that I love, in favor of staying in the congregation's musical "comfort zone," in my opinion, doesn't make me want to "lift a joyful noise." I believe Lincoln Brewster (famous worship leader) said it best when he said: "if I'm not giving my all musically, and I'm not using all of my gifts and talents to glorify God, then I'm not being obedient to what He's called me to do."
@laviniashiponeni1
4 жыл бұрын
I agree with you. And there are so many christian creative who want to worship Him with their all and explore their creativity . There's Montell Fish for example. Can't think of another tone but He's a perfect example
@aaronsimmons5664
4 жыл бұрын
That was EXTREMELY well said
@Ixs4i
4 жыл бұрын
yeah lmao my church refuses to let me play the drumset and forced me to use a perc box which i didnt enjoy playing and ultimately i chose to quit cause of it. its not a common thing im aware but its an annoyance regardless
@joelmorder9780
4 жыл бұрын
Ortizsensei a lot of beliefs of how music “should sound” in the church stems from the older generation. Wanting to have dynamic music for worship isn’t wrong and God is far more creative than what many churches have attributed to Him.
@teamyordle23
4 жыл бұрын
That's right. Play as best as you can musically in dedication of God. Like Tchaikovsky's cherubim
@poots605
4 жыл бұрын
“Don’t overplay, this is about the Lord” Band at my church: literally has a guitar solo during the communion hymn
@equaius893
4 жыл бұрын
if its like a really cool song they are playing my church will sometimes do like some cool light and maybe even fire effects with like huge drum solos. that is really only on special days tho
@nevilriker5090
4 жыл бұрын
It's such a disservice to those who have dedicated their musical lives to making a joyful noise to the lord.
@johncrafton8319
4 жыл бұрын
You just have to know when to play what. Serve the moment, serve the song, serve the audience, etc. Taste matters.
@ankylo5550
4 жыл бұрын
It's like that at mine too. I'm a Catholic, but during communion we do violin solos and massive drum fills it's amazing, it helps a lot with worship I think
@christiansamm1582
4 жыл бұрын
President Putin HAHAHAHA IM THAT TYPE OF GUITARIST
@alessandropedini3841
4 жыл бұрын
What is a ccm musician's favourite chord? Gsus
@tremen151
4 жыл бұрын
The fact that Gsus is also a common chord is what makes this joke even better
@AlexFarleyMusic
4 жыл бұрын
🙏 Amen.
@nickmartin123456
4 жыл бұрын
Perfection.
@planlessdan
4 жыл бұрын
OP, your awful pun physically hurt me and I love it
@SpiacyLos
4 жыл бұрын
What's the most popular Bach's piece in Vatican? Concerto for organ in a minor.
@peterthompson8802
2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this thoughtful and sincere take. One word I would add is "risk." There is no risk in the musicking of CCM worship anymore. The proliferation of high quality technology, worship videos, live streaming and multi-tracks (purchasing and playing the literal stems of the original recording to fill out a local church's band) has led to a very emulative approach that isn't even first about worship. It's about "excellence" - meeting the high expectations of people coming to a church service that the church wants to become members/contributors. There are no risks taken to play something inspired or unique because that doesn't serve the consumeristic desires of many churchgoers.
@paralasalud
4 жыл бұрын
Adam covering oceans is one of the most unlikely things I think I’ll ever see in my feed
@davidbrant390
4 жыл бұрын
Agreed
@Philosophaster
4 жыл бұрын
Gave me goose bumps
@uniworkhorse
4 жыл бұрын
That was pretty dope
@arthurangenendt2010
4 жыл бұрын
that was awesome for sure LOL
@adamofathens
4 жыл бұрын
"Sing to him a new song; play skillfully, and shout for joy." - Psalm 33:3
@D-Man_Jam
3 жыл бұрын
Nice
@XxSabergamingxX
3 жыл бұрын
Underated comment
@codyhufstetler643
3 жыл бұрын
"Praise Him with trumpet sound; Praise Him with lute and harp! Praise Him with tambourine and dance; Praise Him with strings and pipe! Praise Him with sounding cymbals; Praise Him with loud crashing cymbals! Let everything that has breath praise the Lord! Praise the Lord!" Psalm 150:3-6 So basically, praise Him with a jazz band.
@citrus4419
3 жыл бұрын
@@codyhufstetler643 Yes!! christian jazz would be something...
@conservativeguitarsingerjs7937
3 жыл бұрын
Dude everything this guy has said in this video so far is so stupid and inaccurate. Nobody for the most part in the worship music world advocates for intentionally not playing well and making the music boring so you don’t distract from God or the lyrics and don’t bring praise to yourself. That’s like the cheesiest dumb as crap I’ve ever heard. Yes some people say that but worship music is a style and it is incredible. It’s probably my favorite style of music to listen to and play. Worship artist like an elevation worship have the best musical taste of vans that I know of. this guy doesn’t even understand the difference between contemporary Christian music and worship. They aren’t even close to the same thing or the same style. He doesn’t know what he’s talking about with anything. He just claimed worship music has the same four chords. Worship music is probably the only style of music I’ve ever played it doesn’t have the same four chords! It blows my mind. You guys should try learning these styles and learning to play it and actually sound good. If you can’t sound like the artist you aren’t good musicians and you can’t play the style well. I know trendy far left progressive who are incredibly pretentious you think music like Elevation Worship album only king forever is the best style of music they’ve ever heard and that’s their favorite to play and incorporate in their writing. Even though he literally just said the genre has nice cord progressions even though it again and he says the same for. This guy is just repeating clichés about music. He hasn’t come to a real conclusion. And he’s comparing it to jazz fusion. They aren’t even similar in style but I act like once objectively better written music for what is trying to accomplish is stupid. There’s plenty of bands that are incredibly complicated with plenty of key changes in time signature changes that play worship music.
@zxi0635
4 жыл бұрын
1:34 Black and White Neely has Returned
@leosteinriede5633
4 жыл бұрын
Mitzal Gaming best Adam Neely
@channalbert
4 жыл бұрын
It's like the Evil Morty of this channel
@liammews2375
4 жыл бұрын
no he isn't, he's trapped in a time loop that repeats 2014 and he has been doing nothing but watching mlg frag clips
@MrTKnighton
4 жыл бұрын
Mitzal Gaming 😂😂
@lukemcevoy5371
3 жыл бұрын
Dude, I’m a worship leader who is also studying music in college. This video is seriously awesome. I’ll always advocate for less simplified worship music, if we believe God has given us these great gifts we should use them!
@SeraphsWitness
Жыл бұрын
True, but strategically and wisely. It can easily become distracting.
@josephngwaka7913
Жыл бұрын
@@SeraphsWitness And that's the whole point. I think when the purpose of something is unknown, abuse is inevitable. I guess mystic music would be even more boring for some, though it's great!!!
@matthewgarcia7376
Жыл бұрын
As long as it evokes the emotions that you need IMHO. Bring out a joyful noise since that's what God has given us.
@lukemcevoy5371
Жыл бұрын
@@matthewgarcia7376 Worship isn’t about emotion, though. An emotional response is warranted and natural, but we don’t do worship to feel the “emotions you need.” We worship for the sake of worshiping God.
@rogomerlinthegamer8305
7 ай бұрын
yea you must be fun at parties! I mean seriously, whenever I here of someone emphasizing strategically and wisely, I'm like *FacePalm* Christian vibes using Pro- verbs and Psalm Palms to bitch slap ya....typical religious garb@@SeraphsWitness
@bbfigueras
4 жыл бұрын
don't be shy, drop the full oceans cover on spotify
@dbest7
4 жыл бұрын
I would listen to it almost every day
@gabe3298
3 жыл бұрын
I was glad when I heard him play Oceans. It’s one of the better Christian songs.
@DavidIvan50
3 жыл бұрын
PLEASE DO THAT
@Praneettigga
3 жыл бұрын
Oh please! I was so bummed when the clips he played were not the whole thing. I would like Derek said listen to it a lot
@diamondstuddedbootyhole7864
3 жыл бұрын
I liked it, but one of the things that made the original great was the build up to that melody. That melody doesn't kick in in until close to 4 minutes into the song normally so I kind of feel like jumping right into it sort of cheapens it.
@yourself88xbl
3 жыл бұрын
Man that oceans bass arrangement was absolutely gorgeous.
@mannafortheears
3 жыл бұрын
I'm trying to find if it's available anywhere, cause I want it in my music collection so bad!
@smashedapples
3 жыл бұрын
Adam, please release that solo bass arrangement somewhere!
@DanielGutierrezC
3 жыл бұрын
yes, plz Adam!
@kathrynt.3710
3 жыл бұрын
That was my favorite song when I was 10 (I didn’t get out much) and at exactly 4:37 when I heard him start playing, I instantly felt transported back to my 5th grade classroom learning the song and singing along with a recording with my whole class.
@CatholicWithaBiblePodcast
4 жыл бұрын
I remembering hearing a worship leader explain that when writing, his target audience was “women in their late 20s who don’t like music”. That cleared a lot up.
@josiahmerola
4 жыл бұрын
Catholic With a Bible Where did you see that? I’d like to get some context on this quote.
@esava44
4 жыл бұрын
I mean. I do get that. I get the notion of writing songs for a vast array of people. I thought this video was a bit ridiculous (I mean...he used a Don Moen video...like...why?). I don't love Worship or CCM music. I also pastor a church. The vast array of people in the church requires the easiest method to help all people enter into that worship space. Which translates to easy music (because John the Worship band Bass player learned how to play bass 2 weeks ago) and lyrics that all people can understand and attach themselves to you. Hymns are the same way. It's not necessarily about the musician's ability to play well as it is about ushering in a time and attitude of authentic worship.
@starmanovich
4 жыл бұрын
@@esava44 I agree with the notion of making worship approachable, but as a church musician myself, I feel like there is never any musical growth. Any of us would assume attending church would help propagate spiritual growth. In fact, its expected. Yet, musical growth has been discouraged in church for the past 20 years. If you're attending a church weekly, singing for a half hour, if things go naturally you're going to grow as a musician without much effort. I still believe I will give my best to the Lord in music.
@ricardorodriguez5549
4 жыл бұрын
Catholic With a Bible soooo just more show biz
@Phoebetheboss
4 жыл бұрын
Wow, that is both an atrocity and the greatest tragedy I've ever heard. Lord have mercy on His church. We need some songs that are inspired by God and by the sound of heaven! None of this "catering to the congregation" crap. If your congregation can't enter into worship because of "this" or "that" then the pastor / leadership hasn't done a very good job establishing the right attitude and culture in the church. And I say that as both a youth pastor and a musician. We need a worship revolution in our churches!!
@kateflanders
4 жыл бұрын
Watching this as someone who is heavily involved in the CCM world, I think this is an incredibly well presented and well argued video. One argument I would have for the deliberate simplicity is that the church is a place full of diverse musical ability; people who want to play in church aren’t often top class musicians who can instantly play complicated scores put in front of them. The songs are sometimes written with this in mind, that it’s accessible for most musicians to play so it doesn’t exclude some people who couldn’t play it. The church is about community and it seems counter-intuitive to leave people out because they can’t play a song. But all in all, a great video and you brought up some really insightful points.
@Lardykins
4 жыл бұрын
That's a good point. Gospel kind of contradicts that statement, though.
@Waltzhybrid92
4 жыл бұрын
You may be clutching at straws there. I've heard of gospel players being on semi-constant rotation attempting to keep their spot otherwise they'd be replaced if they weren't up to scratch. I think if you want to inspire a sense of wonder and awe about god, playing to people without heart or soul is not the way to go. Furthermore to cater to people who are unable to deal with the music at hand means potentially boring a crowd and as a result losing congregation. If people don't have what it takes they should be encouraged to do better and lifted to higher standards. The alternative is for a church band to diminish the stature of its pretty important purpose to the lowest common denominator.
@76JStucki
4 жыл бұрын
Also being involved in CCM-- I have long wondered, if people find Hillsong or Chris Tomlin songs difficult, then frankly, they probably aren't very good musicians. Why are we having them play in church then, in front of other people, for the glory of God? I mean, I'm not a very good facility manager. That's why no church has ever asked me to be their facilities manager. Not a trained and qualified preacher either, which is why I am not asked to preach. Why do we have incompetent musicians playing our music, forcing us to use some of the worst music and arrangements on earth just to play down to the lowest common denominator? People call it humility-- I don't. I call it devaluing God: as in, "God isn't worth the time and effort it would take to have really good music played by really good musicians." To me, you haven't justified the simplicity of the music, you've articulated the problem.
@147johnwilliams
4 жыл бұрын
@@76JStucki Whilst I agree that the purpose of worship is to bring glory to God, the vast majority of churches won't have the resources to focus on the technicalities of the worship music to do that. For example, in our church, we have a congregation of about 250 with a group of 15 of us who do the worship on a rota. Everyone of us volunteers to do it, and the only practice time that we can get before a service is one evening in the week before the Sunday. Because of this, the focus of the worship group is to create the environment for people to connect with God
@Lardykins
4 жыл бұрын
@@147johnwilliams Again, gospel music contradicts that. All I'm seeing are excuses on why people can't learn the more difficult stuff.
@Reeseington
4 жыл бұрын
It’s funny, cause psalms 33:3 says to “play skillfully before the lord.” I have to remind the band at the church I play at of that occasionally
@1mattbono
4 жыл бұрын
I agree Daniel
@Esodum
4 жыл бұрын
Man, i alway get kinda sad when they play like they are dead inside. Like, don't overplay, but always do your best at the music you are playing. If you're not doing the best, then why be there?
@bleckybob
4 жыл бұрын
Skillfully and out of control are two different things. You wouldn’t solo Over an entire song in any genre. Unless that’s what the song requires. Skill and amount of notes you play are not the same.
@SiDadiBong
4 жыл бұрын
Skillful means being expert to, its entirely different for solo expression when u play on band and solo playing by urself lol 🤣😂
@britboy3456
4 жыл бұрын
Psalm 98:4 "make a joyful noise", directly quoted by Adam (intentionally or otherwise), but completely not by the guy whose video he was reviewing
@amtayao4007
2 жыл бұрын
as soon as you started playing oceans at 4:32 I recognized it -- I don't know if that was the track you found the most promising for recontextualization or if it was just a random pick, but as someone who grew up in the "christian church featuring a white dude with an acoustic guitar" scene and also dislikes CCM, oceans is the exception for me. I found that song by accident when I was a teenager, and never told anyone about how much I liked it. I think that I don't ever want to hear it performed live, because the way I imagine it "musicked" is probably a lot messier and emotive than what I'd see in some CCM cover band. great video, thank you!
@vcsuwar6126
4 жыл бұрын
As a Christian musician and someone who likes some of the CCM, I want to thank you for how you delivered your message. Your insight was informative, arguments were well supported and your points were cogent and you artfully avoided alienating and mocking those of us who try to live in the faith. You've also sparked an interest in learning more about "musicking." I have felt that before, but didn't have a name for it. Thanks for this very intelligent perspective.
@robrdavis
4 жыл бұрын
I think that CCM faces an obstacle that is unique to the genre: it needs to appeal to everyone at the same time. You play Jazz Fusion. If someone doesn't like it, cool. You don't expect them to come to your shows. They don't care to hear what you play, they don't attend your show, all is well and good because you never expected them to come to your show. CCM, which is primarily performed in a church service setting, on the other hand has not just an audience, but an (hopefully) actively participating congregation of a widely-varying musical background. You (again, hopefully) have everyone from the angst-ridden Emo teen, to his Lynyrd-Skynyrd or Metallica loving father and great-grandmother who was raised on Chopin or Joan Baez or Bill Monroe. CCM, as performed in a church setting, has to appeal enough to people with such diverse musical backgrounds in such a way as to encourage the congregation to join in and sing along. I'm not saying that this is ideal. As a musician, I can honestly say that, at times, it very much isn't. Often, it's not satisfying to play the same IV, I, V, VI for an hour straight, calling the same progression four different songs. It IS however, satisfying when the band can engage the congregation enough to have most of them singing. And then, there's the anonymous comment cards. In one service, I've seen everything from "The music was beautiful," "the music was slow and boring," AND "the music was too fast and loud." EVERYONE and their grandmother has an opinion and it's their moral obligation to tell you how to do it right.
@Jul3sTh3Sh33p
4 жыл бұрын
This comment is just on point. And your last passage indicates another problem: Almost everybody in church is highly emotional about music. Music is a heart issue (Christians are used to handling heart issues) but you can hardly approach it with categories like right and wrong (Christians are not used to that). How does a musical genre evolve and flourish when the musicians focus on the lowest common denominator and serve a community that is not even formed around the music but around the common faith & confession?
@76JStucki
4 жыл бұрын
Man...my experience has been, more often than not, that the music in church ends up not really appealing to anyone. In a congregation of 500 people, I'll see 1 or 2 people who are really excited about the music, a slightly larger handful that hate it, and about 490 people who don't really care, and just sing along because that's what you do when you're in church. My position, for some time now, has been to treat music the same way we treat the preaching of the gospel. You give the congregation something good. Whether they "like it" or not is immaterial. It isn't about them anyway. You create a desire for good music by giving people a steady diet of good music and simply refusing to give them less. Currently, people in church have an appetite for bad music because that's what we've been giving them now for at least 2 decades. And a wider variety of styles should be heard. IN EVERY SERVICE. Don't have a specific service for a specific style, or else the only people who show up will be people who like that style. Play the best music we can from as many different styles as possible. (I don't mean 12 different styles in every service--worship sets aren't usually long enough for that. But why pigeonhole ourselves into one style all the time? Why? Because it's what people want? Is the music for people or for God? If it's for God, then why are we worried about what people want?)
@johnnyswatts
4 жыл бұрын
Try to appeal to everybody and you wind up appealing to nobody.
@xcheesyindianx
4 жыл бұрын
I’ve been a Christian for basically all my life, I grew up in church, still go to church and I’ve at least visited quite a few churches of different theologies... I have never liked CCM and I am the target audience.. it seems fake to me and as though the band are trying to stir up emotion using the music. I much prefer worship that is fun or properly impactful. Emotional music is self serving whereas worship should be about God. A whole room of people singing about how emotional they are is a room of people focussing on themselves. How about actually having fun? When we have fun, we’re better able to think outside of ourselves aren’t we?
@BudoReflex
4 жыл бұрын
Grew up playing it, and only a few songs ever appealed to me, mainly from New Zealand songwriters in "Parachute Band". Thats because NZ has a base of highly musical people, who can sing harmony and find ways to make even the most basic progression interesting. The big name CCM was always bland, slightly "whining" and "begging" in tone, and forgettable. Which is pretty much like most people are. Complaining, begging, peasantry. I was like this, and still am to some extent. When one's church is basically begging people through emotional manipulation to participate and most importantly put money into it, then thats what the music will reflect. Begging and whining.
@mjfleming319
3 жыл бұрын
This video really nails a lot of things well. Personally I’ve heard many CCM songs on the radio and thought “blech” and then heard a friend lead it in worship on Sunday, or maybe around a campfire, and have a totally different experience of a song. Part of that is I prefer a more stripped down acoustic style, and part is that the “musicking” experience just feels a lot more authentic.
@Nessiechomp
4 жыл бұрын
Being a (former) christian that also hates CCM is torture.
@MacFall
4 жыл бұрын
Right on. I'm an Episcopalian, so I have plenty of company in hating CCM. But I grew up charismatic, so all of my oldest friends don't understand my objection to CCM.
@geeshta
4 жыл бұрын
Adam makes some really good points in this video and I as a Christian totally agree.
@justsomedudewholikesclassi1776
4 жыл бұрын
As a christian myself, i couldnt agree more
@tatogl2616
4 жыл бұрын
hymns are the way to go man, when performed well they're out of this world
@Nessiechomp
4 жыл бұрын
@@tatogl2616 hell yeah, hymns and gospel music are great
@mcFreaki
4 жыл бұрын
as an atheist (kinda), i want spiritual music to make me question my lack of faith. CCM doesn't do that.
@troyvahn2461
4 жыл бұрын
😂😂😂
@n3zyd
4 жыл бұрын
hold my crucifix? Classic rock, The Rez band. Glam metal Striper, thrash metal Living Sacrifice. need to chill come to the quiet by Fra John michael Talbot a monk who used to sit in with the eagles on guitar, with great pipes and a real gift of classical guitar that the Catholic church wanted to shut up by making him take a vow of silence. finishes the record as a instrumental that wins a grammy.
@Cameron_Adam
4 жыл бұрын
Listen to switchfoot!! They are a Christian/questioning spirituality
@uzipaz9557
4 жыл бұрын
You don't have to rationally believe in something in order to feel believing in it. When you see a Hitchcock movie you may feel quite tensed even though you rationally know that it is only a fiction. It is a beauty that a good movie, story or music, if done correctly can cheat our sub-conscious mind into believing things, even if we know that it is a fiction. You may feel free to enjoy religious music and feel its holiness without feeling the need to rationalize your feeling.
@TheMorbidAsshole
4 жыл бұрын
Black metal brother
@albertkotze8974
4 жыл бұрын
Adam, we NEED a full version of that Oceans song on bass.
@jack-fg7hn
4 жыл бұрын
Albert Kotze hell yes that ocean song is one of my favorite ccm songs
@rmmiller159
4 жыл бұрын
the original version is a little too corny for me to listen to, but this cover was beautiful. i need it on spotify right now. please adam
@jan_Travis
4 жыл бұрын
I wonder if there's a full version of the live performance adam did with that band. That was good for the snippet that we did hear.
@HGWeegee
4 жыл бұрын
@@rmmiller159 to me Adam's version of Oceans feels more.....personal I'd say, which is what I like about it
@Bushwhacker-so4yk
4 жыл бұрын
Yes, that was my favorite part of the video.
@perfilcomentarista2922
Жыл бұрын
Here in brazil the song Oceans became a kind of a meme bc of a digital influencer. When it played in this video I laughed so hard lol
@smizmar8
Жыл бұрын
Haha, oceans is my guilty pleasure, grew up with this stuff, but that one, i can't shake it lol, that and shout to the lord. 🙌😂
@MutohMech
Жыл бұрын
*Toguro pops out of nowhere*
@daniel_cunha
Жыл бұрын
em pleno 2022...
@austinnicely9781
3 жыл бұрын
CCM Leader: Man, I want to praise my immortal, all encompassing ethereal being that spans the cosmos... CCM Musician:...so we should play only three to four chords and play extremely deconstructed pop music? CCM Leader: Yes.
3 жыл бұрын
but we will have pads!
@renaldomelendez
3 жыл бұрын
@ 🤣😂😂😂😂 as a keyboard player I totally get it
@Timber1205
3 жыл бұрын
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@ticklesdust
3 жыл бұрын
ccm leader" ok great! ill be sure the beat drags a little, as if the drummer just finished a marathon and is out of energy
@theojam2
3 жыл бұрын
I wish you could record the instrumentals for those CCM's I really love the originals but I also like hearing your guitar soloing the tune after the chorus of instruments
@bradylinebarger7980
4 жыл бұрын
It’s also interesting, because vocalists are rewarded for being showy, whereas the other instrumentalists aren’t. It shows you the priority of the genre, I guess.
@jondough7777777
4 жыл бұрын
Brady Linebarger 🤣 where I am it’s quite the opposite. If you do too much as a singer, your chastised but the band has total freedom.
@nicholaswhitman4620
4 жыл бұрын
@@jondough7777777 I mean, are we talking in general because guitar players can be extremely mastuabatory about their embellishments.
@PaulTheMessenger
4 жыл бұрын
I disagree. It's all about placement. Vocalists are not rewarded for being showy out of place any more than musicians are. They too are told to hold back when what they want to do isn't necessary. That's with music in general. Ccm or otherwise. The priority is to have good sounding, well balanced music. I think people just wanna take shots at ccm because it's easy when most musicians and most genres carry similar principles when executing in a show etc nobody ever congratulates overdoing things or putting things out of place ever.. So the whole argument is kinda bogus if you ask me
@Anjiruu
4 жыл бұрын
By God YES. THE SINGERS ARE ALWAYS DIVAS
@angelmoncada382
4 жыл бұрын
I think there's something to your content. It's not overtly showy, but more written to be rangey and powerful, vocally speaking.
@Martin_Gutman
4 жыл бұрын
"This song is fine and all, but... it could really use some more Jazz Harmony"
@Nalhek
4 жыл бұрын
Don't worry, we've all been there
@RodrigoVelizGTR
4 жыл бұрын
@@Nalhek Some of us never grow out of it, to me it's an addiction, it gives me brain orgasms when I listen really spicy chord progressions.
@SamStormsKBD
4 жыл бұрын
That was the first video of him that I watched LOL
@japanlovesyou
4 жыл бұрын
🐄🔔
@squigglydigglyhead
3 жыл бұрын
I miss the old classic hymns. That vibe seems to be disappearing as more people favor the boring old CCM.
@jeffreyodell9994
2 жыл бұрын
Old hymns are sleepy.. Christian metal rocks!
@user-th6tc5un1s
4 жыл бұрын
"KOYANAANISQATSI DEEZ NUTZ!" I never knew I needed this.
@EliasPoint
4 жыл бұрын
I am an uncultured swine, enlighten me
@burnt_basque_cheesecake
4 жыл бұрын
Elias Point “Koyanaanisqatsi” is a 1982 film which Philip Glass scored
@RoverT65536
4 жыл бұрын
Elias Point, Koyaanisqatsi: Life Out of Balance, is a 1982 American experimental film with music composed by Philip Glass. Worth checking out, very cool, if not somewhat sobering imagery but, apparently, some people aren't too keen on Mr Glass' compositions. Usually only the cool kids like it because it's a little different.
@EliasPoint
4 жыл бұрын
what the , thanks for informing me, I’ll definitely check it out
@Guitarisforgrins
4 жыл бұрын
@@EliasPoint It's actually a Trilogy of films: Koyaanisqatsi: Life Out of Balance (1982) Powaqqatsi: Life in Transformation (1988) Naqoyqatsi: Life as War (2002)
@KyleGrindberg
4 жыл бұрын
"Play skillfully with a shout of joy." -Psalm 33:3 Skillfully needs to be part of it.
@CharlieDraper
4 жыл бұрын
Organ voluntaries must be accompanied by intermittent shouts of joy from the organist.
@MuzikMann96
4 жыл бұрын
Charlie Draper Gospel got that part right, I think. **organ chord** “AAAAY!”
@KyleGrindberg
4 жыл бұрын
@@MuzikMann96 haha, I think you're onto something!
@darthvader8804
4 жыл бұрын
One of my favorite verses
@jaredtweed7826
4 жыл бұрын
I completely agree with this! I have been a sincere Christian for most of my life, and I have always found this CCM genre difficult to enjoy. There was never anything in the Bible that said to worship with a specific genre of music or played in a certain way, also music and speech are not the only methods to worship God with. Sorry if this is a bothersome comment. It was intended just to inform.
@dclarkmusic
4 жыл бұрын
I love that you’re playing Oceans. That song was practically a meme in churches because everyone loved it and played it so much.
@jeflarremore7170
4 жыл бұрын
I wanted the meme to end. Six months of Oceans is enough.
@NedJeffery
4 жыл бұрын
@@jeflarremore7170 how about 10 years of "here I am to worship" or "shout to the Lord". Urghh, that last one is giving me flashbacks.
@solo_majolo639
4 жыл бұрын
Dude, I'm a church musician, and that song brought me to my effin knees in boredom because I had to play it so often😆
@jeflarremore7170
4 жыл бұрын
@@NedJeffery I'll pray the demons of that song will leave you. Dude, I had songs I HATED because we had to overplay them. I totally understand why the Beatles came up with such amazing stuff because they played it ad nauseum.
@ncpolley
4 жыл бұрын
Oceans is played so much he couldn't begin the melody without my brain adding the lyrics.
@justinambron679
2 жыл бұрын
Hey Adam thanks for the video. Still recovering from pains and trauma from when I was younger and this really helped me identify how much of those I relate to CCM. Your rendition of Ocean felt cathartic.
@Holobrine
4 жыл бұрын
Gospel music isn’t afraid to let loose and just have a good time, unlike the Contemporary Christian Music you hate.
@peterhardyburrell
4 жыл бұрын
Also this. Gospel players can get down.
@Spartan322
4 жыл бұрын
Christian Rock and Metal isn't scared either.
@volemrienfoutre
4 жыл бұрын
Holobrine Nonamerican here. Does CCM mean “white” Christian music? Contemporary gospel music, which Is often marketed as contemporary Christian (or labelled that way on the streaming platforms) is also meant for worship but is often extremely musically sophisticated/interesting to say the least.
@peterhardyburrell
4 жыл бұрын
@@volemrienfoutre ya basically. Kirk Franklin back In the day wasn't CCM
@marceloplioplis4393
4 жыл бұрын
@@volemrienfoutre Yes, I feel this. I find it extremely sad that in white churches in America, gospel music is seldom played. I am incapable of playing gospel music well (not enough talent), but I enjoy it quite a bit.
@worshiptutorials
4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for making this, Adam - this was well done. As a caveat - I LOVE Christian music. Another caveat - we who are deep in the genre make a pretty big distinction between modern praise and worship music and what has been categorized as 'CCM'. In this video you focussed almost solely on modern praise and worship. But that's a topic for another day :). One thing about these songs is that they are written to be played by hundreds (or, literally hundreds of thousands) of cover bands - churches. And in the vast majority of these churches, the musicians playing these songs are novice - or just straight up beginners - that struggle to play the 1-4-5-6 progressions that live in all these songs. I've never been in a writing session in a large group like Hillsong - but I would suspect that this factor is taken into account when writing songs. It's kind of sad when you think about it - music being simplified for the sake of those who will be asked to play it - but it's a reality. It's why our channel exists - to help equip the musicians that play these songs in churches. But when you were talking about Don Moen's video about overplaying. That part hit home. The idea that we should squelch the joy that we have when playing. It happens, and I believe it saddens our Creator (who we believe created all art as a testament to His greatness). For most of recorded history, the church created the most beautiful art that existed in the world (or at least the church commissioned it). In modern history, the church mostly makes an imitation of the greatest art. It's a shame - something that my friends and I talk about often. Before this comment turns into a novel, one more point. There are many inside church/Christian circles who would say that any showmanship or skill being put on display during worship is some kind of sin. An attempt to draw the attention off of God/Christ and on to us. They accuse churches and musicians of being 'performance based' or selfish, and they use it as fuel to accuse churches and ministries like Hillsong, Bethel, etc as heretical. It's a shame, but it's honestly a huge issue that churches and worship musicians face. It's also just another facet of Christianity that makes causes the rest of the world to look at us and see how hypocritical and petty (and just flat out stupid and wrong) we can be. I'm not sure honestly how to fight against it, but I think the church creating beautiful art - in this case music - is a good way to start. Anyway - again - this video said a lot of thing that many of us who create, play, listen, and worship to this genre of music think and feel. Thanks for making it. Finally - you used 'Oceans' as an example of something good in this video. And I agree with you. Also - for the record - I really have a lot of respect for Don Moen :). I think what he was trying to communicate in that video was something a bit different than how it came across, but your point was still well made.
@djsimon634
4 жыл бұрын
Thank you Worship Tutorials!! This was well said! I’m a worship leader that follows your channel and it has helped me grow as a leader and musician tremendously! I hope Adam Neely will read this and start this discussion!
@worshiptutorials
4 жыл бұрын
@@djsimon634 Thanks so much!
@JonnyLipshamStudios
4 жыл бұрын
I cannot agree with this awesome comment more. Improvisation SHOULD be welcomed and encouraged in worship. I have said this since the day I became a Christian (I am Jewish originally). I am a professional jazz musician and audio engineer and play bass and quite often Fender Rhodes in my Church, and I'm always finding ways to sneak improvisations into the songs. Heck, I have even slapped my bass a few times and not been to go on a Don Moen-style time out...... YET. Maybe when I start slipping in some tritonal subs.......
@renoutlaw8371
4 жыл бұрын
I also appreciated that it never felt like I was being shamed as a musician for liking Worship Music. I sometimes feel embarrassed to show people my most listened on Spotify because Elevation is my most listened artist by a long shot, and I don't want to deal with the "oh its just repeating the same thing over and over" type comments. I think it's good for people who aren't into the genre to acknowledge it's strengths.
@renoutlaw8371
4 жыл бұрын
"we who are deep in the genre make a pretty big distinction between modern praise and worship music and what has been categorized as 'CCM'" Also agree, I actually really dislike the radio-ready (ahem K-Love) genre of super poppy CCM, partially cause it has less musical diversity than P&W despite not having the "must be playable by the 3rd string guitarist" type limitations.
@udb1987
2 жыл бұрын
As a black female worship leader who grew up singing gospel music and has seen an influx of ccm I loved this video.
@xunxekri
4 жыл бұрын
Growing up Protestant, I can hear every word in Oceans.
@thomasrogers8239
4 жыл бұрын
I'm a sound tech for my church I know exactly how I'd set the board for that song.
@griffindrucker5712
4 жыл бұрын
I got inspired to write a concert band arrangement of Oceans because of this video. I’ve always loved that song, ever since I heard it a few years ago, so I figured I’d give it a shot. Thanks Adam for the inspiration!
@xymaryai8283
4 жыл бұрын
@@griffindrucker5712 frick me too, I went to a christian camp a while back and I couldn't get enough of that song even if I was really uncomfortable with the environment, my heart still melts and i still sing the words but it's not god or jesus im worshipping, its the music
@diretoaospontos-victorbarb7377
4 жыл бұрын
@@xymaryai8283 I get you bro, I'm just like you, Hillsong does know how to make some good music, You should probably try and listen to "Whole Heart", I don't go to church anymore, but this song is so good!
@fakemail1096
4 жыл бұрын
Same, all nine minutes
@bryantaylor9115
4 жыл бұрын
Couldn't agree more that creating "meh" worship music to praise God is counter-intuitive. I think this is the strongest criticism of CCM.
@happytrees6484
4 жыл бұрын
Could not agree more
@cheesecakelasagna
4 жыл бұрын
Yeah. I feel like more people (like my agnostic ass) would go to church more often if the ambience they're trying to implement is not the feeling of it being a chore.
@ralphabalos
4 жыл бұрын
but how do we really measure the greatness of a song? does a more complex chord progression means "better" and therefore worthy of praising God? because I think the real purpose of a worship song is to make more people worship Him
@cheesecakelasagna
4 жыл бұрын
@@ralphabalos but still, a "meh" music won't be attracting many people any time soon.
@wanderingrandomer
4 жыл бұрын
I would think Christian music would want to act like a catalyst for religious zeal. I'm not at all religious, but the most elated I've been at the beauty of existance has been when listening to music.
@jessehartfield3517
4 жыл бұрын
As a Christian I want to express my appreciation for how balanced this video was. And I completely agree with Adam on this one.
@Symphonicrockfran
4 жыл бұрын
Christian music is pretty bland and boring. So, we always end up doing new versions of the popular CCM songs
@gloryliberty
4 жыл бұрын
Agreed! As a person who has been in her share of worship bands, I can totally relate to that “fake feel” one can get from the P&W section of a church service. There is something lost there when you have to follow the formula. I would love a service that is *just* worship and you go where “the spirit leads”, to use a church-y turn of phrase. Bethel does this pretty well, if you have a chance to watch their webcasts.
@johnyyaussi1339
4 жыл бұрын
Jesse Hartfield how do you explain the hate that is coming out of the Christian community? The intolerance. Of gay people, and trying to make others live by your beliefs?
@jeflarremore7170
4 жыл бұрын
Agreed. Oh look ... another worship album with a white chorus in the background on every verse and it's all in G and it repeats itself over and over and over ...
@_quantreau
4 жыл бұрын
@@johnyyaussi1339 There's no explaining that away. It's abhorrent. That said, there is a growing contingent of Christians who don't buy that intolerance is actually Christ-like in any way and are working to present a more just vision of Christianity.
@jooyoonchung3593
2 жыл бұрын
The part where you talk about the … reservedness of modern classical musicking … it’s as if you’re talking about my father. He hates attending most live classical performances because they are so stuffy and uncomfortable. He wants to be up and dancing, cheering and clapping, during a performance. He really likes the vibe of Andrew Rieu productions. As cheesy as they might be, they unabashedly have fun … they emote in an unbridled way - and that really resonates with him (and me). Thanks for the awesome video.
@ntcyng
4 жыл бұрын
“The aim and final end of all music should be none other than the glory of God and the refreshment of the soul.” - J.S. Bach
@philbeau
3 жыл бұрын
The only CCM group I've ever heard that I can really stand to hear is the group Out Of The Grey. I actually use it for a reference sometimes when mastering similar music styles. Give them a listen...
@Quikostdreggs
4 жыл бұрын
CCM takes no risks. When artists come up in the genre that want to talk about hard, difficult, or complex topics, they get shut down fast. Gospel music is 10/10.
@josiahmerola
4 жыл бұрын
Quikostdreggs I’m glad he mentioned Gungor and Kings Kaleidoscope, they both go into complex topics and don’t get enough love by the Christian community at large.
@lollian8518
4 жыл бұрын
Gospel music is struggling though. The legends are no more and there are no clear successors, just lot of noise. Lacks depth. You can only make so many songs referring to all types of weather events...
@bagabundo152
4 жыл бұрын
Adam with glasses is more intelligent than Adam without glasses
@bige689
4 жыл бұрын
Not gonna lie, he looks like a marine with glasses
@wojciechdraminski3035
4 жыл бұрын
Yeah, but Adam without glasses is way more hot
@elliotswope8356
4 жыл бұрын
@@bige689 Adam without glasses is already very intelligent, so this makes the glasses-wearing super intelligent marine Adam extremely intimidating to me.
@how8765
4 жыл бұрын
bagabundo152 looks like he was a forgotten character in the matrix
@unclepodger
4 жыл бұрын
Disrespectfully disagree
@amanjoshua994
3 жыл бұрын
Watched this video right now.. and I just wanna say, Thank You! Thank you for bringing a whole new perspective to CCM. I being a christian and a part of my Church's worship team, have always heard CCM the same way and never really thought of the musicality of it. And now that I've watched your video, I also noticed the same. I hope someone, someday can make a difference and bring the joy of music and praise to CCM.. Thank you once again!
@Cruly_lawbreaker
3 жыл бұрын
As an active member of a worship band, who hates CCM, I rewatch this video on a usual basis , to reevaluate myself, my approach and learning to adapt ideas that ccm tries to convey into something enjoyable and into something that fits my perception of God. So thank you mister Neely, you help me keep myself true to my calling.
@whoisandrewblack5679
3 жыл бұрын
Maybe you should just play fun music with fun people instead…
@1SSJA
3 жыл бұрын
@@whoisandrewblack5679 his band's probably fun to play music with
@whoisandrewblack5679
3 жыл бұрын
@@1SSJA playing fun music is very different than playing music with fun people. But I get what you’re saying. Just tired of seeing excited, talented, driven musicians get sucked into the worship music complex only to be chewed up and spit out in a short amount of time only to never play music again. I personally have know dozens of these people, I was one of these people, and I did the chewing and the spitting and the being chewed. It was not fun, even though some of the people were. I have a much better time now playing fun music, I also still play with fun people, so win win. It’s still so sad to have see so many others put down their instruments for good (or at least until today, hopefully they’ll pick them back up in the future)
@nathanlyons9729
3 жыл бұрын
I also hate ccm, but when I love it when with the church
@brucemyers5913
3 жыл бұрын
"Pursue a creativity that is undistracting, a creativity that unites the church around gospel-centered truth rather than dividing the church over musical innovation." Bob Kauflin, 2013. Link here: kzitem.info/news/bejne/1miM2qqGraCmaIo
@AvaToccoRodriguez
4 жыл бұрын
I think I know what we need now. Christian Djent. “Hey god, look at this polyrhythm!” Also wtf why does this have so many likes.
@TonyBullard
4 жыл бұрын
You say that like it doesn't already exist.
@marcusbevz6500
4 жыл бұрын
Tony Bullard if it exists what are the names of the bands?
@SiDadiBong
4 жыл бұрын
Hahaha lol 🤣
@timoimkino
4 жыл бұрын
Marcus Bevzyuk I know of (not particularly djent) christian metalcore bands such as Fit For A King and Architrcts. They refer to god in their songs, not necessarily in an act of worship, but more of a cry, an acknowledgement. Which is really what christians do when they worship god.
@barneyharpur7700
4 жыл бұрын
@@marcusbevz6500 August Burns Red, Fit For a King, Phinehas, Forevermore just to name a few
@joshuadelaughter
2 жыл бұрын
2:48 I've been involved in CCM worship for 10 years and you just said exactly what I've felt so strongly that whole time.
@soccerruben1
3 жыл бұрын
Ngl, that rendition of “Oceans” on the bass was really good, Adam. Well done!
@rafasowden7685
2 жыл бұрын
Id love a released cover of it
@abbyschubert5637
2 жыл бұрын
@@rafasowden7685 Yes please
@nightspicer
2 жыл бұрын
@@rafasowden7685 that'd be really awesome
@paengferrer
2 жыл бұрын
I was gonna say the same thing! :)
@jearpster
2 жыл бұрын
I play in a church band. Very much dislike ccm. When we play that one I try and channel sigur ros
@Ottomat441
4 жыл бұрын
That solo bass arrangement of "Oceans" you did there was really nice. That melody is lovely P.S. I totally understand and in almost every point agree with you
@AlexK-jp9nc
4 жыл бұрын
It was like the first time I heard the song. Very moving
@TackKeyNack
4 жыл бұрын
It sounds like a whole different spiritual experience. I loved it.
@lukemunnsmusic
4 жыл бұрын
I'm the drummer of Hillsong UNITED and I love this video. Couldn't agree more bro.
@andrewmiller8284
4 жыл бұрын
thelukasband As a worship drummer myself I can also say that this video was extremely insightful and well done!
@hdihiiehei
4 жыл бұрын
Omg omg omg omg i love your drumming in the early UNITED albums. I think you’re the best drummer they ever had and i really like the way you play. Can’t believe i will see you lurking here ❤️
@4wardnthought234
4 жыл бұрын
Aren't there numerous drummers and ensembles that play Hillsong music?? I mean, there is no one "band" for Hillsong, each song has a completely different lineup, and each church has its own band. So.....you're "the" drummer??
@humanthehuman
4 жыл бұрын
@@4wardnthought234 Depends on the church. For churches that release albums they usually have one drummer for that album.
@miljuswa
4 жыл бұрын
(X) Doubt
@skwerrul6516
4 жыл бұрын
As a Christian, I also hate Contemporary Christian music. However, as an internet goer I love hymns.
@adriansepulvedaz
4 жыл бұрын
Raise your hand and say Hallelujah!!! *gospel choir*
@BensRightBrain
4 жыл бұрын
Is your profile pic... pink shirt guy from epicurious?
@skwerrul6516
4 жыл бұрын
Ben Mather well yes, yes it is.
@alexdelzer904
4 жыл бұрын
Agreed.
@mentalitydesignvideo
4 жыл бұрын
did you mean "hymens"?
@JonathanStenitzer
4 жыл бұрын
Solo bass guitar arrangement of "Oceans." Mind blown.
@tomotomo2596
3 жыл бұрын
I would play to listen to full version...
@harleytwincam2
2 жыл бұрын
Adam, I want to thank you so much for this video. My wife loves CCM and I tolerate it, just barely. Your explanation of what you found that you did not like really made me realize that I felt the same way and did not know how to express it. There are plenty of older pieces of Christian music that are musically excellent and they are being ignored in church worship in favor of the songs that people hear on their local CCM radio stations. I hope that this is a fad that will eventually fall by the wayside. I want to hear worship music that is musically excellent in addition to the message it is trying to bring.
@bygon432
4 жыл бұрын
Oh damn, I'm Swedish, and I didn't even realise "music as a verb" didn't exist in English. It totally does in Swedish: "musicera" - "to music".
@joelgerhardt7097
4 жыл бұрын
Same in German - "musizieren"!
@punman5392
4 жыл бұрын
“Simplification of music to glorify god” *Catholic Church laughing in Gregorian chant in the distance*
@noahaikens2862
4 жыл бұрын
Hahaha yep. Presbyterian, not RC, but I definitely kinda cringed at his comment there. Though I totally understand his point. KISS is good sometimes, but there is beauty in the complex.
@mauricioamf
4 жыл бұрын
Actually up until the XIX century you could hear the Gregorian music being harmonized with improvisation, even doing crazy thing like singing a Gregorian chant with really long notes, and improvising cannons and counter point on the spot...
@morben6767
4 жыл бұрын
Dude... IF ONLY.. As a catholic and a professional classical musician, parish masses are just hard to endure lol
@mauricioamf
4 жыл бұрын
@@morben6767 today yes, but not everywhere, i saw beautiful masses with full afro brésilien music in Salvador de bahia
@amatllona3308
4 жыл бұрын
Please Adam Release a full Solo bass cover of “oceans” that was beautiful. Just bass and some chorus, reverb and volume swells.
@l.t.j.6302
5 ай бұрын
Adam your perspective is very true. We should make a joyful noise unto the Lord, and use our ALL to glorify God, we should not hold back. I am a Christian songwriter and I try to do exactly that in my music. God gives me the lyrics, and then I go wild with the theory, using things like negative harmony and odd time. Thanks for making this video, it was such a blessing to hear someone else’s thoughts and perspective on this topic.
@SignalsMusicStudio
4 жыл бұрын
Delighted to see one of my videos show up in a Neely production, absolutely cracking up over the fact it's THAT video. As always, nice work- and thank you for the shoutout!
@bryanvickers
4 жыл бұрын
@@nimugonz9226 yes please!
@herbertgieeesela7294
4 жыл бұрын
I read the thumbnail as "learning to love cubic centimeters". The video was not what I expected.
@pmnt_
4 жыл бұрын
*laughs in Cool Cool Mountain*
@RockandRollWoman
2 жыл бұрын
"God blessed our happy cubicle Keep it safe and sanitized Homogenized and pasteurized There's no place like numb..." Which is exactly the opposite of the Gospel tradition of ecstasy! Lyrics are from The Hive, by Jimmy Webb, recorded by Richard Harris in the early seventies Here's the entire song: See her walking whitely As though she really was a virgin With her tiny feet precisely on the line She thinks her whitely thoughts About the whitely things she bought And the alter crouches silently Waiting for the virgin to arrive You can almost hear the buzzing of the hive They played the whitely music As though it was really music In the parking-lot they're lettering a sign The preacher says the proper things And then the rusty alto sings And now they'll all get roaring drunk Pretending they're essentially alive While the proud procession leads her to the hive God blessed our happy cubicle Keep it safe and sanitized Homogenized and pasteurized Theres no place like numb Behold a formal female Disappearing through the doorway She has dreamed of this since she was only nine She's never really fought it And now by God she's got it And the alter crouches silently Waiting for the virgin to arrive You can almost hear her screaming In the hive
@Iistener
4 жыл бұрын
When Adam mentioned Twoset I smiled. I really enjoy seeing other music KZitemrs on each other's channels, it's like a they're a big ole family of music bois
@MagicMephisto
4 жыл бұрын
i never tought Adam would mention them, they are ... something else.
@Dowlphin
4 жыл бұрын
Giving credit so others give credit to you. A.k.a. networking, cross-promotion.
@Matybigfro
3 жыл бұрын
Theres something about the 'whiteness' of CCM and its proximity to historical and current institutional/political power that affects how lots of us experience it which doesn't bog you down in the same way when you listen to Gospel.
@bguetsch
2 жыл бұрын
You articulated exactly what I was thinking but couldn't find the right words to say. It's not so much about the blandness or repetition (which are present in spades) of CCM but its "conform or be cast out" vibe. It is exactly what you said: music that represents current institutional and political power. I grew up in the mainstream Lutheran church but have spent plenty of time in the years since in worship settings that heavily incorporate CCM. It has always made me uncomfortable in a way I could never quite put my finger on. Thanks for helping my figure out why.
@uwu-nyaa
4 жыл бұрын
the funny thing is CCM really does have standards. Sounds like it's time to turn some CCM standards into Jazz standards. Get ready for my 30 minute avant garde rendition of Hosanna
@yeyamusic
4 жыл бұрын
Sawyer Stahl lolllll
@yeyamusic
4 жыл бұрын
Imagining that is just 😘👌🏽
@snakey8095
4 жыл бұрын
Yohan Kim is doing the job for you kzitem.info/news/bejne/05uksmqLs5aTp6g
@talisafrancesca5914
4 жыл бұрын
Yessssss
@labae8728
4 жыл бұрын
ooooOOOOOO I NEED TO HEAR IT
@DrummClem
4 жыл бұрын
I love that the point of this could be : "If you HATE some of the music, try to craft it yourself, in a better way"
Of course then it is no longer the music you hate. You didn't repair it. You made an imperfect clone. But that, too, is like an autobiographical performance art. You are telling a story about hate and transformation.
@prestonnoneya3767
4 жыл бұрын
Dowlphwin, wow that’s deep bro
@b_ryc
2 ай бұрын
This is a cool video. I am a Christian and have played in church bands regularly for most of my life (I'm in my late 20's). All I can say, is that if we as Christians believe that God is the author of everything, then he created harmony, groove, and the visceral response you have to amazing music. It is truly a shame that any "worship" leader would attempt to stifle what God created us to love. It's also really cool that you would take a popular worship song and actually perform it at a show.
@ezer0923
4 жыл бұрын
As a christian who loves rock, I'm getting tired of the CCM. It's like we have a factory of songs with generic stuffs put together found off the shelf.
@intracosm
4 жыл бұрын
Jeuel Sapad listen to crypotpsy’s album none so vile, it’ll do your soul some good
@brothermanv
4 жыл бұрын
Is Skillet more of your tempo?
@MFKR696
4 жыл бұрын
Indeed. It's like New Country, only worse. And as far as all of these child performers that they use, I am very wary of the situation, what with the reputation of the Church and all... It's like the Disney Club on steroids, and I really do worry for those children.
@IOxyrinchus
4 жыл бұрын
Not to mention these fake Christian metal bands who manipulate and deceive their audience
@MFKR696
4 жыл бұрын
@@IOxyrinchus Manipulation and deception are not exactly new concepts with Christianity, or religion in general. As a really silly example, Catholics constantly say you must do this or that under threat of going to hell, yet in their very own holy-book, it says that Jesus died "for our sins", or in other words, he died so that nobody would ever have to go to hell again. Contradiction much?
@takkC
4 жыл бұрын
this seems to be a modern manifestation of protestant austerity, very strange that the performance is meant to be stripped back given the wealth of orchestral music that attempts to be ornate as a way of glorifying God.
@360.Tapestry
4 жыл бұрын
ha "austere" more like neutered
@ricochetsixtyten
4 жыл бұрын
nice profilepic
@anthonyclayden4010
4 жыл бұрын
Yes C18th/19th Hymn music (John Wesley) was also stripped back, to be singable by congregations without any accompaniment.
@jnm92
3 жыл бұрын
I agree. It seems like it comes from the same sentiment
@charlesgaskell5899
4 жыл бұрын
Wow, five-string bass, with a capo, played almost like a guitar, with chords and melody. That's a really cool, unexpected sound!
@nathan2743
4 жыл бұрын
Charles Gaskell bro I saw this before I watched the video and thought it was some sort of weird joke about how CCM isn’t innovative or something 😂
@epiroks
4 жыл бұрын
Adam: the simplification of music to glorify God seems... counter-intuitive Me, a worship band play: YES. THIS. I've been saying that for years!
@mystirboy
4 жыл бұрын
Yeah. There's a way to play it without being a distraction. That's why I enjoy a lot of Gospel music and some musicians who position their genre somewhere in between CCM and Gospel e.g. Israel Houghton, Tauren Wells, etc. Those hybrid artists can "overplay" without the being the "distraction" most CCM people consider overplaying.
@MarcosLucas
4 жыл бұрын
I play the keyboard on my church and sometimes plays some jazzy chords when preparing the music, when I do that they said me "we should do that on the song" but then say "it's to much complicated" >:(
@sMdGjaste
4 жыл бұрын
Exactly what I thought too! It's supposed to be the most joyful music ever, just as he said, but for no reason we are meant to hold back...
@lancethrustworthy
4 жыл бұрын
Worship is bad for you. Nothing is worthy of worship. Love, protection, guidance, yes...not worship! Prayer is begging. It is the 'child' begging the 'parent' for something. It puts the petitioner in the 'child' position, causing infantilism. Bad stuff.
@epiroks
4 жыл бұрын
Dan Lewis you have a very twisted view of what worship of God is. Worship is not begging God for something - prayer can ask for something from God, and prayer is a form of worship, but worship is more than just praying to request something. Prayer even is more than just asking for something. Worship is everything you do to bring honor and glory and praise to the Creator of the universe. Nature declares His glory all around us. Singing and playing music is just one method of worship.
@charlesbranch4120
2 жыл бұрын
9:11 "Make a joyful noise for the Creator," for as Harold Best has observed, "All music, art, and other works of man are God's creations." In his 80s, he spoke at the Resonance music ministry conference in Coeur d'Alene, Idaho of that as the reason for tolerance of all music (and it won't last that long, so relax). The first time a saxophone appeared on a Sunday morning... The pastor telling the congregation that everyone should sing, "Even if you don't think you can, pick one note and stay with it!" Brenton Brown conducted one panel on composing worship songs, among the many over the two-day conference. Chris Tomlin is another composer that has been included in the CCCM (Classic Contemporary Christian Music) of our blended service, which is followed less than a half-hour later by a subdued contemplative service. We can really rock! Then slow down and settle in for the message. (Sounds like what we do in school, working out our energy early, to settle down into the classroom work, doesn't it?) - One of the tech team at First Presbyterian Church, Coeur d'Alene, livestreaming at 8:50 a.m. Sundays with an all-volunteer audio-video-lighting crew and musicians rehearsing at 7:30 a.m. (Yeah, sound guys know that's nuts, but it is what it is... and grin with the teespring shirts showing a musician asking, "Can I have more talent in my monitor?")
@rassault
4 жыл бұрын
Adam, you 'musick'd' CCM and just ended up making post rock.
@TheBichoxxx
4 жыл бұрын
for real tho
@victorbitencourt9481
4 жыл бұрын
Didnt watch the video yet, but i agree most of the comtemporary Christian rock music is literally post rock
@thomasmrch5840
4 жыл бұрын
So true - got Sigur Ros vibes
@obiwanda
4 жыл бұрын
I dislike any genre that calls itself 'post-' anything. Seems very pretentious to declare yourself 'post-' something, as if that thing itself is over and you're better than it.
@rassault
4 жыл бұрын
@@obiwanda its a genre of music not a statement lol look up godspeed you black emperor, or russian circles
@ZachClossin
4 жыл бұрын
It's like the uncanny valley, you can feel the insincerity in a lot of CCM.
@JeffHendricks
4 жыл бұрын
TRUTH.
@bs4e
3 жыл бұрын
Yes. I think that's also what I feel about CCM and why I can't get into it.
@jacobbosarge8939
4 жыл бұрын
As a worship leader, I’m happy with the conclusion you came to in the video. The idea of not showing out is based in the principal of not getting in the way of God. As worship leaders we believe we are an intermediary between the congregation and the Holy Spirit and through song we are helping people in counter this feeling. Also please upload separate videos of those oceans covers. I haven’t touched that song in years but it was such a fantastic rendition of it. Thanks for going through this experiment adam! Best, Jacob
@Artek604
4 жыл бұрын
Obviously I've no idea how it works in US, but in Poland I see people getting much, much more involved in singing along when the tune is actually catchy, includes some "fancy" transitions or "weird" rhythm. Especially younger people - students, etc. - seem to like that kind of stuff a lot. And I'd have to disagree about "showing off" - it's more like you're praising the God with skillful, interesting stuff rather than boring him to "death" with a mundane tune ;)
@_BirdOfGoodOmen
4 жыл бұрын
Music comes from God and as a Christian I really don't see how "playing out" gets in the way of God when the thing being done is something that is of and from God.
@JDBlack-gf9ok
4 жыл бұрын
Personally, I think that it's a much more powerful communal moment if the performers leave everything they have on the stage. And it's so funny to me that that's a new discovery in a lot of places, because black churches have known this for literally centuries. They (on the whole) don't hold back, or stifle their legitimate emotional expression in some vague pursuit of making people comfortable- and their worship is all the better for it. Why do you think nondenominational churches are the only one growing right now? People want legitimate connection. They don't want a stuffy, constrained sound.
@Artek604
4 жыл бұрын
Heh, I actually wrote that before I even watched the video. I agree with Adam here :)
@jacobbosarge8939
4 жыл бұрын
Pippi Bernstein Im sorry you feel that way. I hope one day you meet someone that gives you a new perspective.
@kjguitarman
8 ай бұрын
I do agree with your assessment of “holding back”. For me, God resonates when I hear the natural, authentic and passionate feeling behind the melody and lyrics like this song by a band you may have heard of, U2: “I'll see you again When the stars Fall from the sky And the moon Has turned red Over One Tree Hill” This is what I prefer. This is why the gospel influenced version, “I still haven’t found what I’m looking for” again resonates with me. Oh, and traditional hymns are so powerful and authentic, especially sung by theater performers. So I prefer our traditional worship service over our contemporary offering.
@reverentcavaliers7579
4 жыл бұрын
Having gone thru the “CCM machine” as an artist about 15 years ago (including being named one of America’s ’10 Indie Artists You Should Know’ by Christianity Today) I was shocked at how cut-throat that industry actually was. Not so much the fellow artists who were often very nice/kind, but many of the managers, radio stations owners, & labels execs were… well, brutally business minded. Oh well. Nothing you can do but live, learn, forgive, grow, & love harder to overcome it all. FYI - when I participate on our church's praise team ‘joyful improv’ is encouraged. By ‘joyful improv’ as a guitarist I mean pinch harmonics, fret tapping, whammy bar drops, harmonic feedback, etc. :)
@bordershader
4 жыл бұрын
That's the music biz, though, nothing to do with CCM.
@jenniferv
4 жыл бұрын
Having been involved with many different churches from Catholic to pentecostal, I have to say these 2 extremes have it the best. Either be hymnal and classical, or be wild and dancing in the aisles.
@reverentcavaliers7579
4 жыл бұрын
@@bordershader I can follow your logic overall. Yet, it would seem those conducting 'music business' under the CCM banner would attempt to be a bit more Christ-like.
@bordershader
4 жыл бұрын
@@reverentcavaliers7579 indeed. What would Christ himself say, hey?
@lukericker8325
4 жыл бұрын
Reverent Cavaliers I lot of the industry isn’t even Christian. Some of the biggest secular record labels actually own the smaller labels that produce big name Christian music like Hillsong. You could always live like Keith Green and just give music away for free to those who wanted it. That guy was legit.
@BigBadWolframio
4 жыл бұрын
As a Christian who has never liked CCM, my problem has always been that it feels false, it doesn’t represent my feelings, my ideals, my faith. It makes me so uncomfortable when family members send me these kinds of songs and I can’t help but cringe at them T^T
@evanstrand2988
4 жыл бұрын
Keru Wolf I can agree so much with this
@clayfreed16
4 жыл бұрын
Yes
@Andrei.Christop
4 жыл бұрын
Ccm: don't overplay Bach: *Baroque and Roll in Christian.*
@recruit757
4 жыл бұрын
Then there's this Baroque and Roll... kzitem.info/news/bejne/qZ-B0YilipGhjHo
@tipsylibrarians7764
2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, classical “musicking”. Many years I ago I went to sparsely attended string quartet concert. A few high school kids were sitting behind us and very well behaved. I suspect they were getting some credit in band class. A couple of them briefly clapped after a movement and when they realized no one was clapping they quickly stopped. Not a big deal, except to a someone sitting near them who hissed at them that this wasn’t a rock concert and and they should learn the norms, etc. I found the etiquette police way more distracting than the couple of claps. I remember thinking that those kids won’t go to another classical music concert.
@EMan753
4 жыл бұрын
Don't overplay?! They ain't NEVER been to a black church lol
@drbassface
4 жыл бұрын
Haaaaaaa! “Gospel Chops - Licensees “
@CS-nw9si
4 жыл бұрын
Gospel > CCM
@elinolasco1019
4 жыл бұрын
CCM = Unseasoned boiled chicken Gospel = Gumbo
@boiboi7717
4 жыл бұрын
bro, i TRULY BELIEVE that Heaven's gonna be a big black church worship service. I've only been to a black church once, but it was the most magical musical/worshipful experience I've ever had
@JustPlaneStupid69
4 жыл бұрын
Ten years ago I played guitar for a predominately black church in a hella hood part of Oakland, and I tell you what, I’m still atheist as fuck but playing gospel among those top notch musicians was about as close to God as my heathen ass is likely to get.
@jacksonstein8866
4 жыл бұрын
If I was ever on tour and the bass player told me we’re only listening to ccm in the van Id find a new band..
@bipbipletucha
4 жыл бұрын
Hahaha!
@cchristopher1677
3 жыл бұрын
Although this video is a year old and no one asked, I’d like to give my take. I’m a worship pastor. I’m also eighteen. I grew up on Heavy metal, Jazz, Funk, and Rock. Contemporary Christian music is bland to me. I only ever listen to practice for service. My issue is mainly with the culture surrounding worship and “overplaying”. I believe it’s an “old head” way of thinking if that makes sense. An ideal created by pompous people whose idea of church was pews and fancy clothes. I was talking to one of my co-workers at my other job this evening. He’s not a Christian (far from it). I showed him a video of our Fathers Day service and he said “wow you guys actually look like you’re having fun. I didn’t think church was supposed to be enjoyable.” Why is this the culture surrounding church and worship? Worship is an expression of love for Christ. Love is bright, vibrant, and powerful. It’s not stagnant, unchanging, and boring. I’m fortunate to lead in a church that supports the idea of worship being a celebration. We worship God through our actions as well as our audible worship. I disagree entirely with that one mans statement of “benching” a volunteer because they “overplay”. I get if the guy is ripping 2 minute long solos mid song. But if he’s just playing a couple licks…come on man. Lighten up. Maybe this makes me sound “young” or “immature” I’m not sure. I just get tired of old ideals in my faith shaming people out of expression. That’s not what Christianity is about. Don’t overplay. Do play out. God calls for it. He wants to hear it. He made us creative for a reason. Not so we can strum G C D the entire service.
@cchristopher1677
3 жыл бұрын
I would also like to take mention of the fact that worship on a regular Sunday isn’t all about the people on stage. There’s a good middle ground to it all I think. I just haven’t found it yet. It’s out there somewhere. My personal opinion is that the intention is to point the focus towards God. But, you can still do that while also adding more depth to the worship and the music you’re playing. Just have to find the right balance.
@Reynosa21
3 жыл бұрын
@@cchristopher1677 I would sincerely disagree with the good middle ground comment. Worship is at no point about us. It’s not about how well we do or don’t play it’s about leading others to a place of worship. Of course, with that said, we follow the Word and do everything to the best of our ability and not do anything half way. The issue with overplaying is that worship is solely about God and when we get into licks and overplaying you are in danger of falling into pride. Into thinking look how well I did or man I did so good. The focus should NEVER be on us and that’s the problem I have with CCM. Its so much about what God has done for me or will do for me or me, me, me, and not about the glory and majesty of our Lord. Personal worship can most assuredly and should at times be about what He has done for you. It’s personal between you and God about what He has done in your life. But corporate worship, that’s all about how great God is and how He is greatly to be praised. TLDR: overplay introduces the risk of playing with pride. Current CCM is soo me focused but corporate worship shouldn’t be me focused.
@cchristopher1677
3 жыл бұрын
@@Reynosa21 in my original comment I made a point to say there’s a place where it goes too far. Trust me when I say that I understand the whole “leading people in worship” idea. It’s my job. I more meant it as “God gave us these gifts. Why not add a little spice” you know? Gospel does it just fine and no one talks about gospel being “self worship”. I do think like all things that there is a good middle ground.
@cchristopher1677
3 жыл бұрын
@@Reynosa21 As a leader, worship is still a time where I connect with Christ as well. I also praise God in that moment. If my praise is to use my God given abilities to play a Cm7 to spice up a song or something, then why not? It doesn’t distract or detract from anyone else’s worship but, it can make it so much more meaningful to someone like myself
@cchristopher1677
3 жыл бұрын
@@Reynosa21 when I’m doing well, I feel closest to Christ. I feel as if I’m doing his glory justice by giving my “performance” everything I have. I also know that when I feel good about worship, then other people can sense the confidence it brings. It makes the congregation feel more comfortable to worship Christ. Sorry for replying three times btw. I just thought of a better way to express my thoughts haha
2 жыл бұрын
I need to hear that rendition of oceans, it just sounds so nice
@TyronDeakin
4 жыл бұрын
good timing Adam...every bass player is gonna be playing that Oceans cover for Easter...
@Scion4600
4 жыл бұрын
I hope so, always liked that song as a guitar player, so much room to improvise!
@HDSQ
4 жыл бұрын
"Don't overplay" John Cage:
@iane9041
4 жыл бұрын
John Cage: don't over play the toaster
@josephkarl2061
4 жыл бұрын
Be silent and reflect upon yourself and your relationship with the Lord... 4m33 later: 'Aight, we done with that.
@PeterLaman
4 жыл бұрын
Cage? Don't underplay!
@sbyrstall
4 жыл бұрын
Cage: don't play
@sixty2612
4 жыл бұрын
The whole thing about “overplaying” definitely isn’t universal. My church would definitely overplay some CCM songs they played, get really excited and play it louder. A youth group I went to even started mosh pits during worship. But there is still a lot of repetition, which led me to a the Christian hard rock/metal/metal core bands I love today. Same message (usually with more creative and personal lyrics) but “musicked” in what I think is a much more relatable way.
@olivertamburro3504
4 жыл бұрын
I agree, from my experience, the whole "don't overplay" thing can be rather a niche. At my church, the basic chords and stuff in the recordings of CCM are treated kinda like jazz sheet music in the sense that its a guideline more of what to play and improvisation over it can be encouraged. The theology of not overplaying can be true but in the sense that overplaying anything can be bad, but the views on whether or not you enjoying playing take away from God and makes you self centred is not normality. In my experience with church and theology, you personally accomplishing great works, or more complex music, can be in of themselves worshipful to God because (in a simplified way of writing it) your success is also God's success and NOT a selfish act. That varies probably between dominations but I'm not here to argue about that; just to offer another viewpoint.
@missingno9
4 жыл бұрын
I would’ve loved to witness that mosh pit XD
@jbulletc
4 жыл бұрын
I love the harmony and musicianship that goes into so many black churches but the sheer amount of repetitions kills me. Sometimes its like 8 minutes of the same part.
@folklorelover13
4 жыл бұрын
Recommendations??
@sixty2612
4 жыл бұрын
Emma W Harris for metal bands? August Burns Red (of course) As I Lay Dying (though I suggest looking up the lead singers history and you can make your own judgements), Wolves at the Gate, blessthefall, Fit for a King, Thousand Foot Krutch, Disciple, Silent Planet. Those are some of my favorites so start there maybe.
@bloodspatteredguitar
4 жыл бұрын
"That element, that human feeling of play is frowned upon. And that I have a problem with." And the opening of Pope Benedict XVI's book on the liturgy opens with a discussion about the liturgy as play. You are quite right: we learn anything through play, that's why it is important for children to play, but it doesn't stop with the young. We learn about God through play too, and the music needs to be: suitable for participation, yes; but also playful. Actually, no but: participation entails play. All this is also why the Eastern liturgy is so effective and the Western has grown stale. (I never thought I'd be able to comment about liturgy when I started watching this channel... excuse me while I have too much fun with it!)
@ncpolley
4 жыл бұрын
Lol. Benedict XVI mentioned in an Adam Neely comment section is just great.
@erikamaza1882
4 жыл бұрын
wow! this is so good!
@alonzochurch6398
4 жыл бұрын
Benedict XVI mentioned a dude named Bloospatteredguitar, no less!
@koth_harvest_final
4 жыл бұрын
only liturgy im familiar with released the banger album HAQQ
@charlesparsons6071
4 жыл бұрын
I agree with your stance. But historically the church (Orthodox, Catholic, Coptic, and Protestant) has been used mainly to restrict music or slow down development into different styles. HUGE debates revolved around Polyphony, Harmony, etc. So much restriction was placed on composers of those times, to what end? Imagine if Palestrina had been able to use Polyphony unrestricted without worrying about being looked down upon. Imagine if there were no restrictions set for Bach when writing his chorales. The level of art would be astounding. The church helped fund a lot of art. This is true. But it’s a double edged sword. In the same stroke it also restricted artists to a formula.
@christopherjobin-official7440
Жыл бұрын
My dad is part of my local church's band and he did a guitar solo... it was pretty sweet cause up to that point it had never happened, it actually made wanna worship God an exponential amount more than church normally does.
@JRUSSO341
4 жыл бұрын
Hearing Adam say he listened to Kings Kaleidoscope, after recommending them in a comment, blew my mind. But hearing him play Oceans blew my mind even more.
@Nevertoberecorded
4 жыл бұрын
I want nothing more in life than for you guys to release a Adam Neely-ified cover of a CCM song. Hit us with that Microtonal "Oceans" cover!
soundcloud.com/astral/hillsong-oceans-astral-remix The video reminded me of this and it's awesome.
@onesyphorus
4 жыл бұрын
Legend
@etaylor100
6 ай бұрын
I serve as a Music Minister at a Catholic Church, balancing both "traditional" and "Contemporary Christian Music (CCM)" services. This role challenges me to ensure that both congregations receive a consistent musical message, despite the stylistic leap from Gregorian chant to artists like Phil Wickham within hours. Catholic Masses divide focus between Scriptures and the Eucharist, with music serving as background to each. Your video resonated with the nuanced responsibilities I face in this role. In my view, church music should "stir souls," both through internal reflection (prayer/meditation) and communal expression. As Music Directors, we're tasked with identifying those moments in each service that deepen the congregation's connection with God, both personally and collectively. Now, in Holy Week, I guide our musicians to explore those contemplative melodic moments, like the minor 2nds you mentioned. With Easter Sunday approaching, my directive is simple yet enthusiastic: “Go for it,” paired with a 😎 emoji, emphasizing the shift to a more jubilant celebration.
@Bojank64
4 жыл бұрын
I've honestly hated CCM since it's been way overplayed for me through 12 years of christian school and church, so much so that when you first played Oceans I instantly recognized it and cringed so hard I felt like skipping over it. But after hearing it played by your jazz band, I had a WAY different reaction and I think it gave me a new perspective on worship music in general. I'm by no means a practicing christian anymore, but thanks for showing us a new way to appreciate a whole genre of music!
@tdubveedub
4 жыл бұрын
Musicking.
@ricksmith7370
4 жыл бұрын
@Hank Gibbs Jesus said if you no longer are, then you never were. A paraphrase of course.
@tereya125
4 жыл бұрын
@@ricksmith7370 Well that's not very forgiving of you.
@5BBassist4Christ
4 жыл бұрын
I do think that is the biggest pitfall for CCM. It is so "feel good" and encouraging, and the culture surrounding it tends to view the musicians as the best Christians in the church. So you learn a spiritual hierarchy to love these songs that give the "best encouragement" for many years, and then real life hits you. And you're left questioning God because of all the empty (or incomplete) promises of a genre of music that is NOT the Holy Scriptures. "You've never failed me yet" (Do It Again -Elevation), "Great is Your faithfulness/love and justice God" (Your Grace Is Enough - Chris Tomlin), "I am chosen, not forsaken" (Who You Say I Am -Hillsong) -these lines become hard to sing when you're questioning God's goodness (as Job did, as Moses did, as Aseph did, as Jeremiah did, as Habakkuk did, ect.). I'm not saying these songs are wrong (or bad). Often, they are great songs, but they tend to be the obsession of what we want to hear "are God's plans for us", and we may be caught worshiping the music, the feeling, or the musicians instead of the God whom they're claiming to point us to. Sometimes worship "is not a cry you can hear at night; it's not somebody who's seen the light; it's a cold and it's a broken hallelujah" (Hallelujah -Leonard Cohen).
@daffyrwt
4 жыл бұрын
Hank, same here!! When he started playing Oceans i definitely started to clench up then the horns came in and i relaxed and enjoyed it... but then the part after the horns i was like "queue the alter call".
@lonelyplanet120
4 жыл бұрын
I feel sad about it when musician can't overplay or show the joy while playing instrument :(((
@Chris-Polanco
4 жыл бұрын
lonelyplanet120 I work with the youth at my church for our worship team and our biggest problem is making them unlearn this behavior to show the joy of worshiping and praising
@jordanwilliams7044
4 жыл бұрын
Your feelings are misplaced. Overplaying is not the same as expressing your joy through music. (over-cooking = burning food, overusing = addiction or worse). What should make you sad, is the fact that people aren't given room to express the joy that they have through music.
@joshajcip
4 жыл бұрын
Overplay is always bad, that’s why is called overplaying, because you’re playing what’s not necessary for the song and usually sounds bad.
@andyisdead
4 жыл бұрын
Overplay is bad by definition
@Microtonal_Cats
4 жыл бұрын
I guess it's "Make a joyful noise, but serve the song."
@JohnnyArtPavlou
4 жыл бұрын
"Make a joyful noise unto the LORD, all the earth: make a loud noise, and rejoice, and sing praise. Sing unto the LORD with the harp; with the harp, and the voice of a psalm. With trumpets and sound of cornet make a joyful noise before the LORD, the King." Not enough cornet.
@K_F_fox
Жыл бұрын
This explains why I'm not a personal fan of the genre as a whole, but love the Newsboys. They do "overplay" their songs and bring a lot more energy than is typical.
@elishaabarquez755
4 жыл бұрын
I want a full version of that oceans bass rendition.
@amatllona3308
4 жыл бұрын
EliSha AbarqueZ absolutely, it was beautiful
@micahedusma1793
4 жыл бұрын
FOR REAL!!!!!!! As someone coming from a background the CCM background, I thought that rendition was amazing
@micahedusma1793
4 жыл бұрын
I'll be waiting for the full version
@Robangledorf
4 жыл бұрын
Me too. I've never felt strong emotions listening to oceans but I sure as hell felt strong emotions listening to adams version. Changing how it's musicked really does breath life into the experience
@LosvikeN
3 жыл бұрын
Is this the part at 4:32? Been looking for that forever! Could I know the artist?
@TheDistortionist
4 жыл бұрын
Adam. Thank you so much for this. This was so anthropologically consistent. As someone who came to faith later in life and already had a developed taste in music, you put into words so many struggles I experience with CCM. You even mentioned the church industrial complex! That “Don’t Overplay” video is everything I hate about non-gospel CCM music. I also was going to mention King’s K but you beat me to it! Here’s another reason for the simplicity of CCM: The writers have in mind that their music is going to be played by volunteers who are essentially hobbyists. The drummer in my band on Sundays doesn’t even own a kit.
@MidoriMae
4 жыл бұрын
I've been playing for a long time now and I think I have finally really understood the function of worship music. To me, it is basically like a poem to God. Sometimes it can be an excouragement to the congregation as well of course. But the main thing here, is that the message is the key. to me, if my playing can help put people more in perspective of what that message is, that playing would be my go to, no matter how unconventional it may be. I've played services with only my fully distorted electric guitar along with a punk rock 15 year old drummer. It wasn't perfect but I could tell too that the congregation was pumped up when they sang along. It is a shame that people put dampers on good worship. To me, my playing is my prayer to God so I will never let anyone put a damper on my team's playing.
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