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@paulaffholder5472
Жыл бұрын
I’d like to hear his version after a handful of Bush lights!
@factsoffishing
Жыл бұрын
😂
@waynelagarde7956
Жыл бұрын
That would be epic.
@mrlahey373
Жыл бұрын
Matt robertson was suppose to be running ballistic this year as well but on one of his recent insta posts he was wrapping another triton. Some one commented, " i thought you were running a ballistic this year" to which matt responded " so did i " . I wonder whats going on over at ballistic
@factsoffishing
Жыл бұрын
Sounds like a mess all the way around
@DirkDigler209
Жыл бұрын
Treating him like a scrub that don’t place can’t crack top 25!! One of the most popular best anglers in the series! Crazy
@factsoffishing
Жыл бұрын
Sad
@kenbragg120
Жыл бұрын
I was just looking at Ballistic last week. No way now .
@factsoffishing
Жыл бұрын
Seems wise
@fishnreidsflyfishing2055
Жыл бұрын
Insta page deleted all their posts with Lee too now. Guys a stud. Can't wait to see him lift a blue trophy in a Phoenix 👊
@jimbostock2591
Жыл бұрын
I bought a Phoenix 920 from Shipps in 2017 they are great people to deal with.
@leviwiget8848
Жыл бұрын
I would think they made a huge mistake. Best of luck to Lee this year
@factsoffishing
Жыл бұрын
He will be fine. Just sucks to go through it before the season
@lmb4272
Жыл бұрын
100% unacceptable! I know you have to be careful nowadays with defamation lawsuits, but I think people need to know about companies who pull this garbage. This literally could have ruined his season or at least the first couple of events. He should definitely lawyer up for damages occurred and be allowed to publicize his experience so that something like this won't/can't happen again in the future regardless of the manufacturer(s)! Given that these boats cost more than a small house (before inflation) people should/need to know a companies reputation before moving forward with such a purchase. Good luck Lee and thanks for the great content Mercer! Tight lines!
@heinrichkellogg7563
Жыл бұрын
🍺”NO…WAY!!” …Unless Lee committed a inexcusable unmoral act and they choose not to go public something don’t smell right. Their timing is totally unacceptable and down right infuriating . Livesay and G-man are two of my favorite anglers and they have a loyal following. This will cost Ballistic unless they publicly defend their actions. I will not be buying one and I’m telling this story to my friends.🤛
@factsoffishing
Жыл бұрын
It’s a horrible deal
@chanceehuiet
Жыл бұрын
He isn't the only one Ballistic has screwed over. There is a post on Instagram of a guy and his texts with the owner of Ballistic. Ballistic took his 85k and he had to almost sue to get back even 75k. They still refuse to return his 10k deposit
@brianayers934
Жыл бұрын
This assured that many folks probably never buy a Ballistic Boat.. That’s bad publicity…🤷🏻♂️
@factsoffishing
Жыл бұрын
Bad situation
@peterlong9629
Жыл бұрын
He came about as close as you can humanely come, to going the heck off!! And I can not blame him! They did him wrong...
@factsoffishing
Жыл бұрын
That’s the truth Peter. I thought he was pretty calm for the situation
@peterlong9629
Жыл бұрын
@@factsoffishing He stayed composed. Not sure how, but he did it!
@lanceduff
Жыл бұрын
There is always 3 sides to every story. His side, their side and the truth. Let’s see what ballistic says!
@factsoffishing
Жыл бұрын
Unfortunately I am not an investigative reporter so I am not about to chase that down. I simply talk to anglers. So you will have to contact them about that. Thanks for watching.
@rodcashman4793
Жыл бұрын
Is the take off near Roland Maria?? There is a boat show & other things going also isn't there ??
@factsoffishing
Жыл бұрын
All the info will be posted here as the week goes on www.bassmaster.com/tournament/2023-bassmaster-elite-at-lake-okeechobee/
@kirkmackenzie4425
Жыл бұрын
Dave, is Feider still in Ballistic? Thanks!
@factsoffishing
Жыл бұрын
I don’t know his situation but I know he is running one
@richardosborn3203
Жыл бұрын
Shipps Marine is a good dealer in east Texas. I've heard nothing but positives coming from them.
@factsoffishing
Жыл бұрын
Sure thankfully they helped Lee out
@TeamMarineService
Жыл бұрын
All will be told in the near future!!!!!
@factsoffishing
Жыл бұрын
Ok 👌, Thanks for watching & congrats on your channel’s success. I have been seeing it more and more lately.
@TeamMarineService
Жыл бұрын
@@factsoffishingThanks! We appreciate the compliment! 🙏
@RobertWilliams-2823
Жыл бұрын
Interesting just checked there Webb Site and there still showing his boat across the top reel of boats.
@factsoffishing
Жыл бұрын
Low class move
@bobbybaker5304
Жыл бұрын
Is Seth still with Ballistic and if so what’s the difference with him and Lee? What’s the scoop @Dave Mercer.
@factsoffishing
Жыл бұрын
I think so but I don’t know any details.
@restless7528
Жыл бұрын
Well I will stay away from Ballistic boat company for sure! Sorry to hear that they low balled ya Lee my prayers are with ya!
@SmallieNinja
Жыл бұрын
Put him On the spot !! They CrayyyZayy!
@factsoffishing
Жыл бұрын
Sounds like a bad deal
@SmallieNinja
Жыл бұрын
@@factsoffishing awful deal! But he overcame it! That's 🔥
@thmsbnr
Жыл бұрын
Good luck this season Lee. I would like to say more, but dissing someone in a public forum is not my style. I've seen a lot of folks make a great product but their business sense sent them down a rabbit hole.
@factsoffishing
Жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching
@garretthale5670
Жыл бұрын
Kept saying would not sell me boat , I’d like to know exactly what kind of deals the pros makes with a company , more to it than I understand
@BrandonX444X
Жыл бұрын
Bro that’s messed up to do a man like that 2 weeks before he starts his season. SMH
@factsoffishing
Жыл бұрын
A bad deal
@waynelagarde7956
Жыл бұрын
The hell with ballistic boats. That is absolutely ridiculous what they did to Lee Livesay.
@factsoffishing
Жыл бұрын
It’s sounds like a bad deal
@waynelagarde7956
Жыл бұрын
@@factsoffishing yes it does.
@davidharbilas4185
Жыл бұрын
In my opinion, this all unfortunately makes Ballistic Boats look bad. I don't think Livsay did anything over the top to make this look any worse than it does beyond the facts, and when you think about him in a basic sense he IS one of the most marketable guys in the pro game right now with all the success he's had in the last few years. It's no wonder that other companies are going to come to his aid, because he'll represent them well (at least that's what his history shows). And the timing of it all makes one thing apparent--communication is important. Imagine if he got a deal two weeks prior to it all going down, what would his boat sponsor say to that? He wouldn't have done it because it would've been wrong. I think I read somewhere that they only made like 22 boats last year, which is obviously not good. At the very least they could have said something to the guy considering that he's competing for a living
@factsoffishing
Жыл бұрын
The timing was a mess
@joffrechampagne7908
Жыл бұрын
Still waiting for team marine to drop their interview with yhem
@factsoffishing
Жыл бұрын
I hear it’s coming. We will see what they say. Unfortunately I am not an investigative reporter so I am not about to chase that down. I simply talk to anglers. Thanks for watching.
@Crosscampbellfishing18
Жыл бұрын
I was looking at buying a Ballistic boat but after hearing this they are no longer in the conversation
@greggunn8972
Жыл бұрын
get ya a Skeeter
@factsoffishing
Жыл бұрын
They don’t allow beer sponsorships. But I’m sure he will find a home easy enough
@brianjamison4272
Жыл бұрын
Man oh Man Ballistic screwed the Pooch on this! So glad I went with Falcon over those ass hats.
@factsoffishing
Жыл бұрын
👍
@billpool75
Жыл бұрын
Dave, I still get pissed everytime I think about that.
@factsoffishing
Жыл бұрын
Yep
@mexikanman
Жыл бұрын
(2) First Place wins in Bassmaster in 2022 and he can't get a boat? mind blown
@factsoffishing
Жыл бұрын
He will have no problem getting a new boat deal. He just could not get one done in 2 weeks
@bill-qv3er
Жыл бұрын
I have never seen a Ballistic boat!!!!!!! Hope you get squared away, Good Luck !!!!!!
@bayoustateoutdoors9650
Жыл бұрын
I’d like to hear Ballistics side of the story
@factsoffishing
Жыл бұрын
You will have to ask them about that.
@waynelagarde7956
Жыл бұрын
Lee Livesay running a Ikon next year.
@factsoffishing
Жыл бұрын
Ya never know
@colbylivingston4319
Жыл бұрын
I won’t even consider a Ballistic boat now. It was between that caymas and a ikon .
@factsoffishing
Жыл бұрын
I would look at a Phoenix if I was you
@factsoffishing
Жыл бұрын
But maybe I am biased 😂
@ggw7948
Жыл бұрын
If I was buying a new boat it would be a phoenix or a caymas.
@petebrandt7432
Жыл бұрын
Bass Cat or Phoenix is the only way to go
@208angler5
Жыл бұрын
I know he has a finished boat just a few days ago... but I have heard some stories about things being on the rocks with them.
@WarEagleTheBest
Жыл бұрын
Why they have to replace the boat that often!? What is wrong with 2-3-4-5 years old bassboat!?
@BassholeByNatureFishing
Жыл бұрын
nothing is wrong with the boat but anglers are basically mobile showrooms, or showcases… the boat manufacturer will release a new model every year just like cars. Most anglers have contingency incentives that entice anglers to run that brand for an endemic sponsorship, rather it be for winning a tournament on the trail or winning the classic or AOY. The pros make deals with manufacturers and dealers every year to run a boat that they pay taxes and things on, some cases it’s different. But at the end of the year the pro sells the boat to make a little money after the season. They don’t get free boats, it’s basically a lease that requires the angler to sell the boat at a discount. Not sure if the money is split evenly or some sort of consignment. In some cases this is icing on the cake for a angler who’s won a tournament or division, the money he makes from selling the boat. But for other selling the boat may be the only big big money made that year, But long story short pros get new boats every year bcuz they are sponsored by the manufacturers and the manufacturers want to showcase their most current boat to as many people/consumers as possible.
@BassholeByNatureFishing
Жыл бұрын
Dave help me out,, Did I miss anything or is that the basis of it??
@WarEagleTheBest
Жыл бұрын
@@BassholeByNatureFishing thank you for your detailed answer, really appreciate it, just one little remark- cars in general get updated every 3-4 years, it would be very expensive to release a new generation every year. Yamaha, Mercury - same story.
@HeyMyster
Жыл бұрын
Everything happens for a reason man. Shitty deal, yes but think about the support and such if you were to continue. Sounded like it was a shady biz anyway. Might have gotten worse. This move will benefit you and like DM says, the biggest FU to them will be when you win those Ts this year as well as go down in the record books WITH a different boat brand. Best of luck to ya!
@keithgyulveszi163
Жыл бұрын
Make them regret it Lee!
@factsoffishing
Жыл бұрын
I think he will 😂
@briansousa6341
Жыл бұрын
Well he’s in a real boat now……
@jack03111969
Жыл бұрын
Xpress enough said for 2024
@factsoffishing
Жыл бұрын
I’m sure he will have his choice of homes
@kipwright9058
Жыл бұрын
I knew something was off with Ballistic from the start. Maybe he’ll bankrupt!
@factsoffishing
Жыл бұрын
You nailed it
@tonyortega9846
Жыл бұрын
Ballistic hull is A knock off of a Bullet hull
@factsoffishing
Жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching
@208angler5
Жыл бұрын
Nope
@tracybyrd8648
Жыл бұрын
I wouldn't even know about Ballistic Boats if it wasn't for Lee Livesay......and I am sure I am not the only one.....what a s****y way to treat someone. Kinda was thinking about looking at one.....not anymore
@factsoffishing
Жыл бұрын
I agree. Lee is the reason most people know about them
@byronhendrixfishing8393
Жыл бұрын
The more I think about this the more I think if they go out of business in the next few years this will be the start of it. How are they supposed to get other pros to run the boat when they know they hung Lee out to dry 2 weeks before a season. So if I’m pro I’m not doing a deal in fear of that happening to me. So who promotes the boats then? And there in lies the downward spiral of Ballistic in 2023
@factsoffishing
Жыл бұрын
Bad bad deal
@Fishing_with_Fincher
Жыл бұрын
It has to be that Ballistic is just barely getting by. Wouldn’t be surprised if they’re not belly up by the end of the year
@areddfishing7473
Жыл бұрын
Maybe Lee drank Busch apple and they couldn’t handle it
@Fishing_with_Fincher
Жыл бұрын
😂 I just can’t see Livesay stooping to that level
@AndrewGarnerAdventures
Жыл бұрын
Nitro wouldn’t have done him like that!
@factsoffishing
Жыл бұрын
Ok
@petebrandt7432
Жыл бұрын
You have to pay people to run nitros aka wal mart boat
@AndrewGarnerAdventures
Жыл бұрын
@@petebrandt7432 🤣🤣😂
@brdaniel50
Жыл бұрын
No wonder Seth has been dragging around the same dirty ol Ballistic for couple seasons now! 🤣 It true he never washed it during AOY year? That's one way to keep others out of it.
@bigtimfish01
Жыл бұрын
Ballistic boats... All boats 90% off going out of business sale, all inventory must go! Man that's a crappy way to run a business
@factsoffishing
Жыл бұрын
It sucks
@billljones979
Жыл бұрын
This dude is a beast on the water, if there was something going on behind closed doors, ballistic needs to explain or go belly up for an act like this, Also i hope he starts smashing them on tour and racks up a bunch of money and get his due
@AShoresfishing
Жыл бұрын
I’ve got some inside and I’m not going to say much but Livesay was supposed to give his boat back to ballistic and get his next one for free over and over again but he sold it outside of the dealership.
@austincolt3306
10 ай бұрын
Whatever happened will be shown soon from text messages between him and ballistic owner on team marines KZitem channel
@WMWFishing
Жыл бұрын
LIKE AND COMMENT FISHING FANS
@factsoffishing
Жыл бұрын
👊🏻
@warpath58
Жыл бұрын
Go get yourself a Allison xb21. You will be amazed.
@tranzformedyouthtn
Жыл бұрын
Did they give a reason???
@factsoffishing
Жыл бұрын
Not that was talked about
@bamadondon0495
Жыл бұрын
That is so foul.. two weeks before a guy season kicks off You Yank the boat out from under him.. that really shows you what kind of people are running ballistic. I personally would have went with a new blazer versus the Phoenix but that's just my personal opinion.. I'm glad that he was able to piece that horrible situation together in time and was able to get into a Phoenix and was able to get everything rigged and wrapped and ready to go in time, but I couldn't imagine the freak out headaches that situation caused two weeks before he supposed to hit the road.. wow you really showed everybody where your loyalties lie when somebody's out there representing your brand and kicking ass and taking names and then you pull a boat out from under them right before their season starts when you've got something in play for them to have their boat months and months and months before and you yank the deal 2 weeks before he supposed to get it.. wow 👏👏👏 way to show everybody what brand stay away from.. right after dude just had a kid, A major win and a phenomenal season in their boat and they're going to do that to him and his family with no warning until two weeks before he has to be ready to fish with the biggest names in the sport.. freaking WOW!
@factsoffishing
Жыл бұрын
A bad deal
@bamadondon0495
Жыл бұрын
@@factsoffishing that's putting it lightly Dave... But I know why you have to do it!! So I'll say it for you.. that's a shity deal to do a man that's just had a baby then had major wins and phenomenal last few seasons and promoted the hell out of a brand that nobody'd even heard of really before he fished off of that platform and then they yank the deal out from under him 2 weeks before he supposed to be on the road to fish the elites... That's just shity!!!
@georgeadcock2347
Жыл бұрын
This says more about Ballistic boats than it does about Lee Sounds like the company is insolvent and soon to be bankrupt possibly...
@retired55.
Жыл бұрын
I thought only black folks were treated that way I hope this guy wins.
@chrisbeemanfishing9951
Жыл бұрын
Huge mistake for ballistic.. go win it all Lee and show them why the f’ed up.
@rickvann3489
Жыл бұрын
He made a very over priced boat... Just get a Ranger 520R you'll be ok. Does everyone who is a Pro need all these sponsors, to fish? How did you lose money? I say let your fishing speak for you. If professional fishing isn't viable to raise a family etc. Get a real job, I say or make the payouts bigger or real sponsors ante up more money. It's only a multi billion dollar industry. ( MULTI BILLION)
@bobbycolson1957
Жыл бұрын
Unbelievable...
@Mjones8383
Жыл бұрын
Boy that is shitty as all get out for Ballistic to do that. Personally I'm like you, I've never heard of them up until Lee ran it. Hope they go bankrupt for that move. Karma is a bitch and she never sleeps
@factsoffishing
Жыл бұрын
I’m still shocked.
@desertdog1125
Жыл бұрын
How can a Company who only builds 8 Boats a Year have a (Pro Staff)?
@factsoffishing
Жыл бұрын
Not sure but maybe they should have figured that out months if not years ago
@davidharbilas4185
Жыл бұрын
Is it that bad? I heard something like 22 boats. Any way you look at it, it ain't good.
@factsoffishing
Жыл бұрын
@@davidharbilas4185 the timing is what really screwed Lee
@davidharbilas4185
Жыл бұрын
@@factsoffishing Yeah, just not right. Like I said in another comment, there's no way they can look good about any of this, no matter the circumstances. I feel bad for Livsay. I don't mean to defend them, but it seems like so many are quick to call out the evil corporations. In this case, the company has definitely done a lot wrong.
@chaddrumm6809
Жыл бұрын
An asterisk on the Ballistic name for sure! KARMA will prevail!
@factsoffishing
Жыл бұрын
Always does
@BassholeByNatureFishing
Жыл бұрын
Sounds like John Is About To Knock on the doors of Balistic,,, or is knocking..
@factsoffishing
Жыл бұрын
Maybe but is there a door to knock on
@WillSmith-gv1ok
Жыл бұрын
Lee is lying he wanted the boat for free
@FisForFishing777
Жыл бұрын
Cause they were losing money. Give you a free boat
@BassholeByNatureFishing
Жыл бұрын
I feel like he was tryna stay political. It’s ok to be uncensored lee!! Let us know how it went down!!
@factsoffishing
Жыл бұрын
He is an adult. No need to get dirty, he handled it well
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