Yeah I really think Mario rosters don't even come close to the potential the franchise has for representation. To the people say "it's because that's what casual audiences recognize," using the nicher characters would MAKE them more recognizable and potentially drive newcomers to try the games they originated in. I genuinely don't understand how you can unironically defend keeping those characters out for the sake of the casual players. (And also, relevance to the Mario universe trumps recognizability to general gamers too, they should not have added representation for Zelda and Animal Crossing before WarioWare, Paper Mario or Mario & Luigi. Recognizability be damned, those actually take place in the Mario universe so they should be higher on Nintendo's priority list by default)
@danny_krow
4 күн бұрын
I couldn’t have said it better lol. Classic enemies are recognizable and I do love some of them, but other characters can’t get recognizable if you don’t give them the chance to appear in spin offs. Especially since those are the games casual players will get to learn most of them and might peak interest for the games they originate from. I like Waluigi and Toadette but the recent OG characters like Pink Gold Peach and baby Rosalina are just uninspiring and unnecessary same with putting in other random Nintendo characters.
@Mymy_64
3 күн бұрын
They don't even have to be from RPGs either as some claim that's we want in the roster. There's no way you can tell me people don't remember characters like Cappy, E.Gadd, or even Poplin after playing their games as they had as big of a role as Pauline did in Odyssey(who mind you is just now starting to become part of the main cast in recent spin-offs).
@clarenceandgennymcneil251
Күн бұрын
I never realized how UNDERRATED Mario’s cast is. Great picks!
@heihogreenzx4704
18 сағат бұрын
Thing with the Mario & Luigi series is that all its new main antagonists literally end up dying by the end of their games. Most likely, the characters we’d get from the series are likely Popple (which Tbf, no one, including me, would be complaining), and a generic Shroob. As for Warioware, I feel like some of the characters have a bit much of an art style dissonance with the mainline Mario games. Others fare well, but some… not so much. And for Paper Mario, I’d actually be all for it! Problem is that Mario & Luigi: Paper Jam retconned it into being a separate universe… that sucks… even then, fingers crossed Nintendo decide against being boneheads. And even then, I don’t see the problem with bringing in regular enemies or bosses, that feels like an absolute nothing of a criticism, since the enemies and bosses in the Mario series still brim with as much personality as the main cast. And the thing with the spin-offs is that they’re not really story driven. Most you’d really need are just a good design, because you’re not embarking on a grand quest or anything, you’re just racing or playing a board game, or playing sports, or what have you.
@mothyirl
3 күн бұрын
The fact that Cappy isn't in any spin-offs is insane! Also he'd be a great pair for Luma so if we're having any secret characters for the new Mario Party game other than Pauline and Ninji it would be nice if they were included
@danny_krow
3 күн бұрын
I can see where you’re coming from, if Cappy was playable I’d like to see his sister as his partner, but Luma could be cool too! I’m still surprised that Diddy Kong isn’t in the base game, but maybe more characters could be added with DLC?
@mothyirl
3 күн бұрын
@@danny_krow That would be so cool, also his sister makes more sense than Luma you're so right
@johnzza9250
5 күн бұрын
I’m still shocked Diddy is not playable in Jamboree and another character I would have love to see playable is Wiggler
@danny_krow
5 күн бұрын
Diddy Kong not being playable baffles me! If I had to guess they might keep him in case they’ll do DLC? Either way he should’ve been in the starting roster. And yes, I love Wiggler and his animations in Mario Kart and would love to see more of him!
@robbiewalker2831
5 күн бұрын
@@danny_krow It baffles me more that Waluigi is constantly being used over and over, when he doesn't really have much personality, and that we already have a much better character in the form of Captain Syrup, who would've been like the Mario equivalent of Rouge the Bat in my honest opinion.
@NickMario1
5 күн бұрын
@@robbiewalker2831or wario
@SuperSonic64-64
4 күн бұрын
@@NickMario1Wario actually does have a very good and well detailed personality.
@Jerry_Buberry
4 күн бұрын
I actually kind of understand why Wiggler is not playable (because of the board but still yeah it sucks
@truenugget7834
5 күн бұрын
I don’t know, I feel like some of the enemies should be main stay characters. Maybe not characters like Hammer Bro, Monty Mole, Blooper, and Boo, but I do think guys like Koopa Troopa, Goomba, Shy Guy, and Dry Bones are deserving of at least the second tier. They’re all staples to the series and just as iconic as Mario, Peach, Bowser, and Toad.
@danny_krow
5 күн бұрын
Yeah, I do agree that they are very recognizable! I just don’t want Nintendo to go too overboard and only use Mario enemies instead of using characters from across the series lol
@corasharktale
5 күн бұрын
i kinda don’t like the idea of wario ware characters in spinoffs because that series is so disconnected from the rest of the mario franchise that it seems a little odd
@NickMario1
5 күн бұрын
That’s what makes the Warioware series unique though that it’s technically from the Mario world but just in another part of the extended cast. Kinda like avengers for example how every main character has there own cast of side characters like Wario with his buddies.
@danny_krow
5 күн бұрын
I can definitely see that. (Growing up I was always a bit confused if Donkey Kong was it’s own series or part of the Mario cast, since his games take place in seemingly a whole different world.) But I could see it work if they give them a chance and some time passes. And having 3D renders would already blend them in more with the cast
@heihogreenzx4704
18 сағат бұрын
@@NickMario1 eh. The thing is for the Warioware series, half the characters would have serious artstyle dissonance. Some definitely could work, but others… not so much.
@geschnitztekiste4111
4 күн бұрын
Why do they keep erasing Diddy, bringing him back by popular demand, and then erasing him again? Just keep Diddy in the roster!
@danny_krow
4 күн бұрын
For real, the only thing I can think of is that they just think he is an easy way for a recognizable character if they need DLC
@geschnitztekiste4111
4 күн бұрын
@@danny_krow This mindset is annoying though, they should give us the expected ones and use DLC for some risky newcomers
@gray489
5 күн бұрын
Captain Syrup should be in spin offs tbh. She shouldve been warios counterpart, being the actual female rival of wario in the wario land games, and not waluigi a character just made for spin offs when Captain Syrup was RIGHT there.
@danny_krow
5 күн бұрын
I do agree, although I do love Waluigi and it makes sense to have basically, an evil Mario Bros since Wario already existed. I kinda felt the same way when Daisy was as picked over Pauline in the OG Mario Tennis, but thanks to that we got the characters we have now (even if it took a while lol.) But I do feel bad for Waluigi being kind of forgotten about besides spin offs, and would definitely LOVE to see how Captain Syrup would do in the Mario roster!! They’ve kinda been doing her dirty too!
@clarenceandgennymcneil251
Күн бұрын
Wapeach: exists Captain Syrup: Am I just a joke to you?
@Mymy_64
3 күн бұрын
Honestly I think they should include more characters from the titles on the Switch. Characters like Cappy or Hellen Gravely could work in rosters as their from games that more then 10 million + copies played a big role with those games. Or maybe Poplin from Wonder could also be used in roles like host or shopkeeper, heck we never saw the Broodals after Odyssey, two of them could easily be in a Mario Kart roster. There's so many characters to choose from both Mainline and Spin-off that its no surprise some people want non-Mario characters since, they barely use them as is. At this point, we're more likely to get Galoomba before they even consider putting E.Gadd in another spin-off title(again).
@danny_krow
3 күн бұрын
True, which does make me a bit sad. There are so many great picks to still choose from and I’d like to more of an approach where they pick 1 or 2 characters from different series. Like Rosalina an Luma from Galaxy or E.Gadd and Hellen Gravely from Luigi’s Mansion. That way they can also show some light on some smaller Mario games. (I kinda tried to do that in my video and I don’t think that made the roster too big or too unmarketable. Of course even then I did have to leave some choices behind)
@MarcMarioMaster
4 күн бұрын
Umm...Petey Piranha but then no Koopalings which appeared way earlier in the franchise? ^_^' And no mentioning of the more recent games like Odyssey? What about Cappy or the Broodals? Heck, Plessie would have been a fun addition if they went as far as having the Queen Bee from Galaxy in a roster already. XD
@danny_krow
4 күн бұрын
I will say if Cappy would be playable I’d like to see his sister as his partner character. I didn’t include the Broodals since in my opinion they kinda fill the same role as the Koopalings who are more iconic. Plessie would be fun to see, although they might have to tweak his model a bit to fit xD
@thenostalgicyoshi7149
5 күн бұрын
I mostly disagree with your take. I enjoy the rosters we get in most spinoff games. The Mario series is not entirely story driven in every game and the spinoffs are never story driven unless there's a story mode. I think it's a great choice to put enemies like Boo, Koopa and Goomba because they are instantly recognizable by fans since they appear so often in the main games anyway. My brother's favorite character in the series is literally Boo and I know one of my friend's favorite character is Koopa Troopa. Plus the spinoff games (especially in the Gamecube and Wii era in which I grew up in) give all characters including the enemies personalities of their own. Not everyone is gonna know Captain Syrup, Foreman Spike (though he is reintroduced to modern audiences in the movie albeit in a minor role) or characters from Luigi's Mansion, M&L, and certainly not Warioware unless you played them. The Donkey Kong characters I could see being in since many fans actually want Dixie Kong and Funky Kong and especially Diddy Kong to go along with Donkey Kong in the spinoff games. I also really love most of the Yoshi games (especially the original and Woolly World) so I'd be down to play as Poochy and he was also in Mario Kart Tour as well. The Koopalings (and please don't refer to them as "Koopa Kids," only the Mario Party character should be called Koopa Kid) are controversial in the spinoffs due to how many spots they could take if all seven of them are playable (notably in Mario Kart 8). The babies are mixed by fans but at least Baby Mario and Baby Luigi I do enjoy seeing them in spinoff games and I would play them from time to time. Clone characters like Pink Gold Peach, however should never be playable in any spinoff and I'm glad they stayed in the Wii U era. At the end of the day I personally think we should only have recognizable characters playable depending on the game like we do now.
@danny_krow
5 күн бұрын
That totally makes sense! I will say that characters like Captain Syrup or from the M&L series can get a lot more recognizable if they get in more rosters, that’s how Waluigi gained a lot of love and how people actually want him to be in a mainline game and how many characters and franchises from smash got more popular. But it is undeniable that Bowser’s minions like regular Koopas and Goombas are instantly recognizable and definitely has their fans! (Also sorry for calling the Koopalings “Koopa Kids” I didn’t even notice and now I cringe at it lmao)
@patrickbaillargeon1933
6 күн бұрын
The Kong family needs to return, but even moreso, they gotta bring Donkey Kong Junior back. What happened to the kid? He was in the OG Mario Kart and Mario Tennis. Also if I could pick any Mario enemy to upgrade into a guest playable character in Mario Kart and Mario Party, I'd like to see what they could do with Pokey. Having detachable sections could make for interesting funny animations.
@danny_krow
6 күн бұрын
Yeah, I think they’ve pretty much replaced DK Jr with Diddy Kong… but I’d be interesting to see him make a comeback! And that Pokey idea sounds so clever! Kinda makes me think of how Wiggler gets angry when he gets hit in MK
@danielmoncrief4997
5 күн бұрын
Forman Spike and King Goomba definitely should come back. Also there is a jamboree trailer with Pauline in it.
@danny_krow
5 күн бұрын
Yeah I saw the trailer! It made my day lmao!
@zackivanov9461
4 күн бұрын
I feel like Stanley the Bugman from the old arcade Donkey Kong 3 could be revived someday Also the Penguins from mario64 and Galaxy
@danny_krow
4 күн бұрын
I mean, if they brought Foreman Spike back for the Mario movie and if they plan on making him more relevant one day, then it’s definitely possible and I’d love to see it! The penguins are iconic and again they made a whole kingdom for them in the movie, so it’s definitely a possibility too someday!
@geschnitztekiste4111
4 күн бұрын
I always hated the generic redesign of King Boo, like that’s not him, just use a Big Boo at that point
@danny_krow
4 күн бұрын
Yeah, I totally agree!
@geschnitztekiste4111
4 күн бұрын
@@volvoman5262 Yes he is, he's cool as fuck and much more interesting than Big Boo with Crown. Also, isn't it enough that Peach, Toad and Yoshi are traditionally appealing? It won't hurt to throw in some variety. In fact, you would appeal to more people if you had both cute and (relatively) scary designs in there. It's not like King Boo is that grotesque, either
@geschnitztekiste4111
4 күн бұрын
@@volvoman5262 Then why is Dry Bowser still an option? Huh? I feel like Nintendo makes arbitrary decisions sometimes and is then to lazy to change them back
@geschnitztekiste4111
4 күн бұрын
@@volvoman5262 they should atleast make the real King Boo a skin of the lame version like they did in Mariokart Tour, that I would accept
@DoodleBobFG
3 күн бұрын
The reason they redesigned him, is cause he probably looked too scary for other games that are not Luigi’s Mansion games
@michaelr3077
4 күн бұрын
I miss Chief Chilly.
@danny_krow
4 күн бұрын
We don’t see him enough honestly, bring him back!
@MajinSprite
5 күн бұрын
I think the talking flower from Mario Wonder should become a main stay roster character
@danny_krow
5 күн бұрын
Oh lord haha, bro would just keep yapping and getting stepped on
@Pluto5323
4 күн бұрын
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
@jtothepmoreno1010
4 күн бұрын
That luma in the Mario movie was a specific Luma from Galaxy- the Lumalee- the blue ones that give sell you lives and life shrooms
@danny_krow
4 күн бұрын
Wait really?! Was it an actual Lumalee or based off it?
@captainet2457
2 күн бұрын
0:15 DON’T DO THE GOOMBAS LIKE THAT!
@tracyndiyob162
6 күн бұрын
pretty much it can be summed up as if fans don't want it to be nintendo kart than ask for actual parts of the mario series like these instead of babies,generic enemies and power up's that make mario feel bland/running out of ideas in the main line up.
@danny_krow
6 күн бұрын
Exactly!
@Mymy_64
3 күн бұрын
This. Especially when recognizable characters like Petey Piranha and King Bob-omb started out as just bosses in their respective games until they started adding them in sports,Party and Kart spin-offs. What's the difference between them and Poplin from Wonder(a mainline game that sold 13 million copies mind you)?
@heihogreenzx4704
18 сағат бұрын
@@Mymy_64 The fact that Peter Piranha and King Bob-omb are notable members of their species. Even then, I see this less as an argument against adding Petey and the King and instead an argument to add Poplins.
@Mymy_64
16 сағат бұрын
@@heihogreenzx4704 What about Piantas from Sunshine or the Lumas from Galaxy? Their entirely different species yet also has appeared in other games such as Sluggers and Aces.
@heihogreenzx4704
15 сағат бұрын
@@Mymy_64 Again, I never said I was against it, I just said that that’s what separates those two from Poplins. Also, Wonder is still less than a year old.
@geschnitztekiste4111
4 күн бұрын
I think Plessie should join Yoshi and Birdo in the Dino club, she’s pretty cool and thanks to Bowser’s Fury she has multiple appearances
@danny_krow
4 күн бұрын
Plessie could be a very cool addition! They might need to tweak the model a bit since I don’t think a simple rescaling will be enough, his tail might need to be shorter ect. But it could be very cool!
@MarioKartGamerDude
4 күн бұрын
New sub, great video! Also I despise Pink Gold Peach lol
@danny_krow
4 күн бұрын
Haha, thank you, thank you!
@miguelangelvega7176
5 күн бұрын
Thanks for making the video! I don't know why fans like generic villains instead of actual characters. Like, at least use Captain Goomba, or Captain Boo from the Superstar Saga remakes so they feel like actual characters with backstories lol
@DDKoD
5 күн бұрын
Cause it’s called different taste and opinions, not that hard man
@danny_krow
5 күн бұрын
I do get that the generic enemies are more recognizable, but I do believe if they did put in more like these “actual characters” then with enough time and love they could get just as recognizable!
@heihogreenzx4704
18 сағат бұрын
Because people enjoy playing as other characters. What makes enemies such as Goombas, Koopa Troopas, Boos, or Shy Guys dull or generic as player characters? They’re still brimming with personality from designs alone, and in the context of Mario spin-offs, they really don’t need much of anything else. You say to bring in distinct members “so they feel like actual characters with backstories”, but that’s completely unnecessary if you’re bringing them into a roster for something like Mario Kart or Mario Party. You play those games because you wanna go fast, throw dice, and rage at your friends whenever you get hit with terrible luck, you’re not making a DnD campaign where you need the intricate backstories on each and every character. You just pick the one you like most and roll.
@miguelangelvega7176
18 сағат бұрын
@@heihogreenzx4704 that’s true, I meant mostly for Nintendo; it’s the perfect opportunity to put in characters that are in mainline games or spinoffs. Like sure whatever Boo is great, but putting in characters you don’t typically see is just more interesting
@heihogreenzx4704
16 сағат бұрын
@@miguelangelvega7176 Makes sense. Honestly, I just wish the rosters were bigger. That way, previous characters can remain where they are while new ones get a spot in the limelight.
@rubenrodriguezalvarez12
44 минут бұрын
Hop off random Mario enemies ,they are my favourite characters
@clarenceandgennymcneil251
Күн бұрын
Mario has a surprising amount of female villains: Mimi and Nastasia, the Shadow Queen, the Spark Hunters and Kanya, Cackeletta, the Shroob Sisters, Harriet and Mama Broodal, Wendy, Captain Syrup, the Shadow Sirens, etc.
@zeroddor2665
2 күн бұрын
This is why I really want Cappy to be apart of the Mario Roster. Not only would he fit as a Ghost Character and a great representive for Mario Odyessy, But he is also a brand new character to the series. Someone distinct from the main roster and generic characters. Since we hardly get any new characters be apart of the main roster, I 'm hoping the Spin off games could introduce brand new characters like how Waluigi and Toadette debut in Tennis 64 and Double Dash, or bring back old characters like Paluine for Odyessy and K Rool for Smash Ultimate.
@coinygaming2763
3 сағат бұрын
Bring back hammer bro dry bones and diddy
@Mr.Foxtroting2008
2 күн бұрын
I understand why people want Captain syrup in Mario spin-offs. She's A pretty awesome character! But maybe we could stop with the Waluigi slander around here? Two wrongs don't make A right. Captain syrup has been in many wario land games. (RIP that series BTW) But Waluigi hasn't been in any mainline games. My point being Both syrup & Waluigi should get equal love spinoffs or otherwise. (Welp I made A essay 💀)
@danny_krow
2 күн бұрын
No, I totally agree with you! I like both characters and one doesn’t need to be brought down in order to elevate the other. I think it might come from the fact that Waluigi does have a fanbase but gets denied a lot of attention from Nintendo, where as Captain Syrup doesn’t really show up at all anymore. (And don’t worry I’ve had WAY longer essays from friends and comments, I’m a yapper too as you can tell lmao. We’re just passionate about our hobbies which is great!)
@kylelien7810
2 күн бұрын
That's what I'm saying I don't understand why The Mario Universe keeps using King Boo from the Mario Games and not his Luigi's mansion Design, Because his Luigi's mansion Design is much more cooler and scary then his Mario games design
@danny_krow
2 күн бұрын
Exactly!! It makes him stand out from the regular boos and it’s his main design from the game where he is the main villain!
@shrek-itgamer6214
3 күн бұрын
I don't wanna sound biased, but i don't think the Mario RPG and Warioware characters should be in next Mario spin-off titles. Nintendo never bothered bringing those kinds of characters to appear in the Mario roster and they only focus on the characters from the platform and action adventure games like Super Mario, Donkey Kong, Yoshi, and Luigi's Mansion. There are plenty of characters that are more than just Mario RPGs and Warioware characters that Nintendo hasn't used yet, like Foreman Spike from Wrecking Crew who appeared in the Super Mario Bros. Movie or what about Cranky Kong, Professor E.gadd, Penguin, Cappy, Prince Florian, etc.
@heihogreenzx4704
19 сағат бұрын
Like, regarding the Mario RPGs, the characters that appeared outside of their home RPG series were: SMRPG: Geno: Mario & Luigi: Superstar Saga (thing with characters from SMRPG is that they’re in copyright limbo, since both Nintendo and Square Enix own the rights, that means the characters can only be used by the two collaboratively). Paper Mario series: Paper Mario: Star Spirits (Mario Party 5), Koopatrols (Mario Pinball Land). Tweester (Mario Party 7), Whacka (Mario Party 6), Frost Piranhas (New Super Mario Bros. U), and Goomboss (Super Mario 64 DS). Paper Mario: The Thousand Year Door: Dark Boo (Mario & Luigi: Partners in Time) Paper Mario: Color Splash: Shield Guy (Mario Tennis Aces) Mario & Luigi series: Mario & Luigi: Superstar Saga: Ice Snifit (Yoshi’s Woolly World)
@nintendo-relatedchannel5810
12 сағат бұрын
I’ll never get Ashley in one of these without mods. It sucks.
@danny_krow
12 сағат бұрын
For real… If they ever bring a character from the Wario Ware series it has to be Ashley!
@geschnitztekiste4111
4 күн бұрын
Technically, Waluigi is also a made-up character who is not from a mainline game, just like pink-gold Peach. Captain Syrup from WarioLand would’ve been a much cooler partner to Wario, we don’t have any female villains yet
@danny_krow
4 күн бұрын
At least Waluigi is more original and kinda works in context of having “evil Mario bros” But they definitely did Captain Syrup dirty and would love to see more female villains!
@geschnitztekiste4111
4 күн бұрын
@@danny_krow I guess if they were both in a roster it would be a win-win
@INFERNO95
2 күн бұрын
@danny_krow They not brothers.
@gooeydude574
2 күн бұрын
Wart, Tatanga and Captain Syrup deserve a spot in Mario Kart
@danny_krow
2 күн бұрын
Honestly, they all need some more recognition in newer games even if it’s just a cameo in a mainline game or something xD
@Mr.toysRfun
2 күн бұрын
Goomba been there from the start
@koopakid4239
Күн бұрын
Mario kart 8s roster sucked if if wasnt a koopaling it was a power up of mario or peach
@danny_krow
Күн бұрын
Yeah… Mario Kart 8s roster definitely has some questionable choices… At least thanks to updates and DLC every previous character is in. I wanted to say “maybe they learned” but they did add in Peachette as final character sooo…
@koopakid4239
5 сағат бұрын
@@danny_krow yeah I mainly ment first release
@Mr.toysRfun
2 күн бұрын
Maybe toadsworth died and that’s why he’s not in the movie
@danny_krow
2 күн бұрын
They better bring that man back from the dead then, because I’m not ready to say goodbye to him yet lmao
@heihogreenzx4704
18 сағат бұрын
Fun fact: the decision to cut Toadsworth from the movie wasn’t actually Nintendo’s. It was Illumination’s. This doesn’t change anything, but if Nintendo wanted to stick to their guns more, we might’ve seen Toadsworth again.
@Pluto5323
4 күн бұрын
Toadsworth should be in the roster
@danny_krow
4 күн бұрын
Bring the man back from the dead!
@Upsetti-Spaghetti
2 күн бұрын
Nice hair!
@danny_krow
2 күн бұрын
Thank you!!
@luiscolin2021
4 күн бұрын
The king boo from Luigi's mansion is playable in Mario kart tour
@danny_krow
4 күн бұрын
Yes! You’re right about that and it’s the best lol. I really hope they’ll keep using him in the next Mario Kart, even if it’s just a skin! And hopefully they’ll keep using him more and more often
@miguelangelvega7176
5 күн бұрын
ALSO, I really like Madame Grape from the latest Peach game, I can see her in a new MarioKart lol
@danny_krow
5 күн бұрын
I am curious what they’ll do in the future with that character and with that game overall. Like, will it actually be it’s own franchise and is Grape gonna be the main villain like Bowser?
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