while nobody is forced to love her or her music, you can’t ignore the sheer dedication and passion she has for her work. love her for that
@chenles_defender
Жыл бұрын
True, she is one of the few female producers in a world dominated by males, she is iconic just for that.
@straytistic
Жыл бұрын
i hope she reaches her goals and dreams her passion is amazing
@straytistic
Жыл бұрын
i agree!!! i prefer talents over visuals kpop is a music genre shouldnt we be focusing more on the music itself instead of the visuals???@skilledsoyeon
@yogi8387
11 ай бұрын
It’s great to see her do the producing stuff herself.. I always respected gd and to see someone especially a girl do that too was so good. However … no hate I don’t like their music style or the vocal style. So am not a fan .. but this one Gidle fan was like so not okay that I don’t knw these girls or find them refreshing or whatever 😅 nobody needs to be forced fr
@moaswrld
9 ай бұрын
Yupp
@HOGISIMJAYUN
Жыл бұрын
Soyeon basically carried not just her team but her whole company. One of the few self made artists. The girl is a genius and people hate that. People hates success.
@1675loof
Жыл бұрын
Do you know cube doesn't even pay her for producing.scammers
@samosa-gv2pg
Жыл бұрын
@@1675loof fr soyeon is the sweetest thing she does it for her company😭
@rurugum
Жыл бұрын
people hate succesful *women*
@AmiAki
Жыл бұрын
@@1675loofearnt a few things about producing and how they get paid before you make that statement and spread misinformation. You took a clip from a show out of context.
@1675loof
Жыл бұрын
@@AmiAki really that's what I saw from the video. Elaborate or fk off.
@manseeratgill4692
Жыл бұрын
one thing i admire about her is that she takes her art seriously and doesn't bid to what others want from her and it's funny how fans want pronounciation, when it is soyeon who takes diction most seriously... not just in their songs but even in their name. come on.
@michellinkapawlowski1795
Жыл бұрын
That might be the case for her korean lines but everybody and their mom knows, that Soyeon uses a particular korean pronunciation style, when it comes to her (and the other members) english lines, to fit the korean ear and make it sound 'cooler' to koreans, while unfortunately butchering the 'correct' english pronunciation. It wouldn't really be a problem if only koreans were listening to K-pop but unfortunately, or not, K-pop is now mostly aimed at international listeners to make more money of course. Long story short, I totally understand when people complain about her weird pronunciation of english words but she definitely does not deserve all that hate. She is an amazing songwriter and composer and if people don't like her way of saying stuff then they don't have to listen to her music but again, I understand why some people might be upset.
@jamescurfman3284
Жыл бұрын
@@michellinkapawlowski1795 I wish she was allowed to answer some of these questions herself on interview shows. Some real idiots apparently can't, or worse WON'T, figure out what 'I Don't Give A Love' really means. It would almost be funny for her to answer them and make them feel like the idiots they are. 'Because there are words I can't say on public television'. These idiots don't need to be on the internet at all if they can't figure out that IDGAL is the same thing as IDGAF.
@michellinkapawlowski1795
Жыл бұрын
@@jamescurfman3284 ehhhhhhh right. Don't know what got you so upset but you do you boo.
@michellinkapawlowski1795
Жыл бұрын
@@battleangel4833 I see you didn’t read my comment correctly. I said, that kpop is nowadays MOSTLY written and aimed towards an international audience and that’s a fact you just simply can not deny. The producers behind those groups aren’t stupid. Why do you think so many kpop groups do English versions of their songs or make entirely English songs in general (BTS, BP, Twice, ITZY, Dreamcatcher etc? Back in the day they didn’t do that cause kpop was something mostly listened to by Koreans but now times have changed and they’re more international then Korean fans, so the industry had to adapt. Obviously not all of the songs are written for and with international fans in mind but the majority of songs are especially the title tracks. The same reason why kpop used to make a lot of chines or Japanese versions bc they wanted to attacked listeners in those countries, they do with their English versions and English phrases. I myself don’t really care for their pronunciation, unless it’s simply not understandable anymore to the point where even with the lyrics in front of you, you have no idea what they’re saying. I do understand why some people might get upset tho, cause if the roles were reveres and someone made an English song with Korean phrases and mispronounced them, a lot of Koreans would absolutely lose it and destroy that person. So why can’t English speaking people be upset if someone is constantly mispronouncing words in their language. Like I stated earlier, Soyeon is known for using a very particular pronunciation technique for her English words and she also makes the other members used that technique. I remember watching an interview with Korean girls and they said how cool Soyeons English sounds. Speaking English is seen as a luxury in Korea and is a sign of high education so obviously she’s gonna use that in her songs and make it sound cool (for Koreans). I’m polish and I would also get upset if someone would use my language to show of and then intentionally mispronounce it to fit their cultural music taste. So in conclusion, kpop is not entirely aimed at international fans but a huge portion, if not even the majority of the songs are and that’s just a business strategy to make as much money as possible.
@manseeratgill4692
Жыл бұрын
@@knighteyes1234 to you. ofc.
@chocobarsyt6204
Жыл бұрын
She really is a great lyricist. If you can appreciate poetry, Hwaa is a frickin Masterpiece. ❤
@markusfeindt
Жыл бұрын
So true!!!
@waltergomez4730
Жыл бұрын
Hwaa es mi tema favorito y el pico máximo de arte en su estado más puro al que llegó el OT6.
@ky_piece
Жыл бұрын
Both versions are so beautifully written!
@cassie8844
Жыл бұрын
Lol tomboy lyrics
@peachpehx509
Жыл бұрын
@@noorsharma4625 It’s from “A Queen’s Story : (G)I-DLE…” But I’m not sure which performance for this specific one. You can search for it on youtube and I think there’s no subtitles though hahahahaha.
@facethebass
Жыл бұрын
Soyeon is a Queen, Period. All that talent in one body.🎉
@dia21534
Жыл бұрын
you mean she is a qwinn
@samosa-gv2pg
Жыл бұрын
@@dia21534 im a kwin ka im a kwin ka imma imma imma kwinka
@Biolllogie
Жыл бұрын
@@samosa-gv2pgtake a photo
@fatherrikhi3464
Жыл бұрын
Ha! Mos def! My girl Soyeon got the Queencard.
@youareyouiamkpopfan
Жыл бұрын
Yeas,haters can just argue with wall if they dont agree😂
@FumIsChum
Жыл бұрын
Soyeon needs to be recognized for her dedication to coming up with new concepts and sounds for the group, not to mention she tackles important topics in society which I commend her for, because it takes courage to do something like that and she defends the concept when others disagree with her. Soyeon is an artist that people should really look out for, I mean heck she collaborated with legends such as SNSD's Hyo.
@the_richcat
Жыл бұрын
It’s just sexism. It all comes back to the fact that she is a woman. People don't like her cause she's too "Bossy". Her voice is my personal most fav and unique in k-pop. Thanks, we needed this video
@chenles_defender
Жыл бұрын
Exactly, for example when she dissed Mamas 2022 many people called her "arrogant" and complained about her trying too hard to stand out, but when a Boys Planet participant steals her "young and rich" line from her rap everyone calls him an "iconic king". 🙄
@marcoryskyfall6382
Жыл бұрын
@@chenles_defender The shade- 💀
@chenles_defender
Жыл бұрын
@@marcoryskyfall6382 Am I wrong though?
@alej_ndrod1927
Жыл бұрын
It's shocking to see all the sexism espically in this day in age! I wanna see "fans" critique boys the way they do the girls
@marcoryskyfall6382
Жыл бұрын
@@chenles_defender No you aren't wrong, people are hypocrites for bashing Soyeon and every other female idol for every small gesture they do, but then stan someone as cringe as that guy who I don't even remember his name.
@RudeMekanicals
Жыл бұрын
The only thing anyone should feel towards Soyeon is grateful. Be grateful she is gracing us with her genius. That's it.
@sarahg1002
Жыл бұрын
*gratitude
@filming4you___
Жыл бұрын
PERIOD
@yogi8387
11 ай бұрын
I don’t like their music or vocal style or sound. But I appreciate her for stepping it up Being idol and producer is pretty cool
@keylimepie3602
11 ай бұрын
Ok but what about love cuz her music ate 😍
@RudeMekanicals
11 ай бұрын
@@keylimepie3602 That too!!
@granslay
Жыл бұрын
All I can say is Soyeon is talented asf regarding her song writing, producing, rapping etc skills even tho I am not a fan of many of her works and songs she made but realizing how much she does for their discography just blows my mind and makes me respect her even more. Kpop fans will always find a victim to bully online, but that does not make the "victim" less impactful. Soyeon is a role model to unconfident people, people who are insecure about their appearance. The impact she makes is HUGE and those hypocrites will never be able to change that.
@yigite45
Жыл бұрын
Soyeon became my bias after queencard. Knowing she does so much, she is such a strong woman and deserves so much more recognition
@rafaelprado7156
Жыл бұрын
Soyeon is such an amazing artist. Even if haters keep trying to put her down, she will always rise cuz shes talented and hardworking. I hope she takes good care of her health and lives her life with happiness in her heart feeling proud of how much she continues to achieve everyday.
@regretisathingofthepast
Жыл бұрын
Soyeon has changed the industry. Love her or hate her, she's got an insight into the business and can back it up with results. She has taken 6 intelligent, talented, beautiful women and helped them reach the top of their profession. No matter the individual in K-Pop, some netizens will always be sniping. Ignore them and enjoy the gift of Soyeon.
@Cupidador
Жыл бұрын
i find it so crazy how people STILL talk about both her visuals and her line distribution. 1. soyeon is STUNNING. i literally thought she was the visual of the group when i first found out about g-idle. even if i didn't it LITERALLY DOES. NOT. MATTER. beauty is subjective and the korean general public needs to get this past their thick skulls... 2. she literally produces all their songs and knows everyone's strengths and weaknesses, even so her members could simply SAY if they wanted more or less lines ie shuhua WANTING less because of her lack of confidence due to her korean pronunciation.
@myeonstr
Жыл бұрын
One, soyeon is totes gorgeous no doubt, with or without the beauty surgeries. Two, people ignore the fact that line distribution is depending on many more topics than just their talent. Like miyeon has gotten lesser lines in queencard despite suiting the song and being the main vocalist and people had hated soyeon too much over it, and totally didn't consider the fact of how busy miyeon's schedule had been as an mc and loding her up with lines isn't going to solve anything. And this isn't even the first time
@vixxexo6855
Жыл бұрын
Soyeon is so pretty. How can people even think she is unpretty? Like Soyeon is one of the most stunning idols out there for me.
@nikolapenava29
Жыл бұрын
Yes!! I totally agree. I also thought that she is a visual😂 Because of her looks I took a listen to Idle and I FELL IN LOVE. All of them are visuals and eith GREAT vocals. The love I have for soyeon and the girls is huge. I actually find that soyeon is kinda my inspiration, I wanna be like her. With good ideas, the person who cares about her group the most and a person who is a great leader.
@theunoriginaldude8345
Жыл бұрын
about 1, changing an entire GP's view is very hard, no matter how pretty you are or how loud you sing it just won't work trying to convey such a message because it'll be taken for granted
@gettingcalledoutontwitteri1882
Жыл бұрын
@@vixxexo6855 I loved how pretty she is with green eyes and black hair,like i feel so attracted to her even tho i am more into men
@markusfeindt
Жыл бұрын
Soyeon is literally just brutally honest and some people just take it too seriously or too close to heart she’s just phenomenal at everything she does like being an amazing lyricist, great composer, songwriter and producer, amazing ideas of concepts, extreme phenomenal main rapper, very beautiful singer, gorgeous visuals, awesome stage presence, is literally exposing the idol industry, beauty standards and others topics that the idol industry is afraid to talk about but she does it anyway as a concept for her comebacks and overall a stunning leader of (G) I-DLE
@Koriiii
Жыл бұрын
Soyeon is strictly unbiased and acknowledges hard work, commitment and skills. She isn't lenient to anyone who she believes would joke around in a serious situation.
@endlesssupra
8 ай бұрын
This makes me sad. As a native English speaker, I'll go toe to toe with anyone that wants to criticize her English skill. Soyeon is practically a goddess from any angle. Her skill and talent are unmatched as far as I'm concerned. I hope the haters don't get her down.
@linhdieuha
Жыл бұрын
I loved when she called the girls out for not being skilled enough- being an idol should not be only about looks🙄 you have to be able to do it all- sing, dance, act, model that’s literally the definition of the kpop idol but these days it’s only about looks 🫠
@SuperAliScott
Жыл бұрын
I just wanna share a personal story as a fan; A year ago, i have the blessing lucky to meet her at the hi touch (previously at the concert) and in the line i've noticed there were nobody cosplaying other memebers but soyeons costumes, even when they express their bias Yuqi or Minnie, they choose soyeons characaters (beam beam, tomboy, akali) just in the VCR concert opening, Shu and Yuqi were highly applauded, when i notice there comes the time for Soyeons VCR,i got prepared to shout with all my chest just to make shure Soyeon will remebemer it forever cuz was guessing nobody else would do it but my bad, actually was the most corwded, mabye was our fever latin blood, mabye the ppl deeply recognize her strongly efforts and leadership or was just her terrific presence. My conslution is: Hate in social media, is not real hate. And haters were at home scratching their balls, easily ignoring GIDLE´s sold out concerts in which people (fan or not) finish sweatting, aphonic and fascinated by their amazing charisma, and performances. Im still remember THAT concert with all my heart, TOMBOY, SEÑORITA, UH OH, NEVER STOP ME, LATATA, were hight ranked by the crowd, those songs just turn on the place, like u really have not idea!, i couldnt imagine the lucky once who will live NXDE and the Queenca era!!! enjoy it!!!
@ChicaBuenosAires
Жыл бұрын
I love this so much :') she's my ult and I wish someday I can shout her name during a concert too!
@ceegee1706
Жыл бұрын
This was a beautifully written comment!
@nightingale4786
Жыл бұрын
were you at the chile concert by any chance? i remember seeing clips from that concert and the crowd seemed so lively and everyone got super loud cheers and praise hehe. but overall, i agree: the hate gidle (mostly soyeon) get online does not transfer to concerts, real life or even the charts. it's simply bitter, chronically online losers on twitter, reddit and youtube because they are loved everywhere else.
@chenles_defender
Жыл бұрын
Very glad to know that, you are so lucky to see Soyeon and the rest of (G)I-dle in person.
@sindieltaylor2147
Жыл бұрын
Gonna repeat something I've said before: I'm black, and I took the whole Queendom Africa thing in my stride, mainly because I know what Asia is like. I've lived out here for almost a decade now, and I can tell the difference between collective ignorance and actual racial behaviour. They underwent sensitivity training after Queendom anyway. Now Queencard has the record for the most amount of black dancers and cast members to ever appear in a Korean music video. It's also more than any in the Chinese music market ever and the Japanese one, too. This means a lot to me in the era of John Boyega being practically invisible in any pictures of the Star Wars sequel trilogy out here.
@lifeisbeautifuldarlinimlovinit
Жыл бұрын
Wait the record? I swear there's only 2 black people in the video? How many are there?
@yooralee9451
Жыл бұрын
@@lifeisbeautifuldarlinimlovinit lmao did u really watch ?
@yuhhh951
Жыл бұрын
record LMFOAOAO, sorry no hate to you or gidle but why is there a record for that ?&:7;
@sindieltaylor2147
Жыл бұрын
@yuhhh951 Because it was the most black dancers and actors ever hired for one project in the Korean entertainment industry. That's how we know.
@gettingcalledoutontwitteri1882
Жыл бұрын
@@sindieltaylor2147 I am so happy it made you happy You deserve happiness, i think soyeon is truly amazing and they are trying to make her like she is the most evil person
@trinity-728
5 ай бұрын
Honestly soyeon dosent deserve the hate she gets, she's so talented, and is a rolemodel to me and encourages me to follow my dream to be a kpop idol , and i would love to meet her be under her guidance.
@epavitola
Жыл бұрын
Soyeon is a fantastic person, songwriter, artist, leader, and mentor. Most hate she gets is opinions of people with less talent than a rock. Honestly, people need to open their eyes and see that Soyeon is one of the most creative and professional idols in this industry
@WooGidle.power50276
Жыл бұрын
First of all, even though Shuhua's usual Korean pronunciation is awkward, people doesn't notice that when she's singing thanks to her efforts and Soyeon's directing during the recording process. The major difference between Shuhua and the other foreigners participated in the show with Soyeon as their mentor is the effort they have made; speaking fluently in daily conversations is surely a difficult task for them, but singing is a different case, since the pronunciation in the lyrics can be memorized. Minnie once mentioned that she did a 5 min Korean speech during her early trainee days when she couldn't even speak Korean fluently. Although she was not completely sure what the words meant, she still memorized only the pronunciation of the whole 5 min speech. Shuhua is awkward while talking normally in Korean, but she was never awkward when singing in Korean, unlike those participants. This is the matter of the amount of efforts they have made for the stage, and that's why Soyeon had to criticize them. Also, I saw some of the people questioning why do Kpop idols need to be fluent in Korean when Kpop is pretty globalized right now, and here's the answer: Even though Kpop became more famous worldwide, the Korean listeners play a big role in the industry because many music charts still require Korean phone number to stream the songs. Korean listeners will sense the awkwardness in the pronunciation of the lyrics immediately, and that can lead to lower streaming rates. That's why the idols at least needs to sound natural when they're singing. To add on, the idols are doing a professional job in Korea under a Korean company, and most importantly, makes profit in Korea, so if they show the people that they didn't made efforts for the job with some kind of attitude like "Even though I make money in Korea, I'm still a foreigner so it doesn't require me to make efforts to speak the language fluently", they can be criticized for not respecting a country's culture. But don't get me wrong, it's not that Korean people want all the foreigner idols to speak like a native Korean or so; they just wants to listen to the songs without actually being uncomfortable and confused because of the pronunciation. Actually, Korean people like it a lot when a foreigner member pronunce some words kind of awkwardly and in a cute manner during daily conversations because they think that it's one of their charms, but they can't help but to feel uncomfortable when the same thing happens when those idols are singing in Korean, no matter how much they adore those idols. For idols, singing is part of their job, so they should at least be professional at it, which also includes the pronunciation. So, people can't just say "Kpop is now globalized, so why do they require good Korean pronunciations?".
@theewoo
Жыл бұрын
This is SUPER well put! When Shuhua sings all i hear is her accent, never problems with pronunciation and i think that this is the biggest difference, as you said it yourself. Thank you so much for commenting!!
@windyleaf
Жыл бұрын
Yesss, and even when Shuhua speaks Mandarin, she has a slight lisp which is cute. Her natural way of talking carries over to Korean too.
@Choloo-ig8uq
6 ай бұрын
soyeon has made her group one of the most popular k-pop groups world wide, she’s never taken no for an answer. She’s got no weakness what so ever as well as takes an advantage when she sees it. She’s a self made girl. and she deserves it
@Koriiii
Жыл бұрын
I can never understand how people can hate on Soyeon for her visuals. I feel like they only mention it because she quite literally is one of the best idols in the industry as a producer, leader, rapper, while still being incredibly skilled in vocals, dance and other attributes that other idols may barely have 1 thing they can do as well as she can.
@haruruwu
Жыл бұрын
I am so proud of Soyeon and the girls 🤍 I hate it when they try to use the other members to hate on SY because they clearly love her and admire her even more than any of us could ever do. They are such a good example of a healthy and admirable team. For me it comes back to the fact that she is a woman. Her being a leader seems to bossy for everyone, her being a producer seems like she is too proud, etc. it’s just sexism.
@jwhippet8313
8 ай бұрын
Can you imagine, an enormously beautiful girl with multiple skills almost had no career because she wasn't beautiful ENOUGH.
@pigeondance
Жыл бұрын
about her visuals.. I swear there is something seriously wrong with people's eyes because to me she was pretty before!! like she looked like the exact type of girls I got crushes on in high school. and she looks pretty now, but now just more "polished" and grown-up. so I don't understand all of these people, like have they ever went outside? do they know how normal ordinary people look? soyeon always was and will be attractive. also idk what's wrong with all these people who were hating on a teen because of her looks (and just anyone who throws hate on people because of their appearance)... it's never okay to do. shame on them. I want to lock them in a room and force them to listen to songs like allergy and queencard until they understand things and stop being like that
@deusex9731
Жыл бұрын
thats one of the most disturbing things. Like even if she is not as pretty as a lot of other idols, she is still extremely pretty compared to the general public. I feel like "fans" get offended when idols dont meet their personal standard of whatever the fuck they want them to be and then lash out with hate comments (or worse). Some people are really really becoming delusional about what to expect from another human being, especially when they are young.
@orangelady416
Жыл бұрын
She's extremely pretty to me. People are crazy these days
@Sashawwiiji
Жыл бұрын
@@deusex9731 I just can't understand what's the beauty standard kpop fans are looking for. On a western beauty standard perspective she's the hottest idol. It blows my mind she doesnt have what she deserves !!!
@vixxexo6855
Жыл бұрын
@@orangelady416Soyeon is also very pretty to me. I first saw G idle perform Latata on a music show I watched for BTS. Then I noticed Soyeon and thought the blonde girl is so beautiful and has talent as well. Soyeon looked so pretty in that show. I find Soyeon, Miyeon, Yuqi, Minnie and Soojin to be some of the prettiest idols.
@orangelady416
Жыл бұрын
@@vixxexo6855 When I saw Soyeon first, I was a hardcore new blink and I was like OMG she's so pretty and such a good rapper. I got into her a bit more and found out she's an all rounder. Ever since then, my respect for her has surpassed almost every other female idol because the hate she gets for unnecessary things is just ridiculous Also, I've always loved her rap and her tone and never understood the people who called it cringe. Like have they heard actually annoying girls speak? People still follow the kardashians and especially Kim's tone is actually a definition of annoying (but I ignored it for the drama's sake) Thing is, people, especially blinks (I'm not a hardcore blink anymore), are just trying to find reasons to hate on her
@pigeondance
Жыл бұрын
tbh this video didn't change my mind about anything related to Soyeon besides the cultural appropriation case (big thanks for clarifying that btw). I respect her a lot, love her concept ideas and her singing voice is very beautiful to me. plus she's practically carrying her group (to add, in a shithole like cube) while breaking barriers and industry standards left and right. at this point I see that 80% of the hate and criticism that she gets is just because she's a woman that refuses to deal with the industry's bullshit. so she doesn't deserve hate at all, even when/if she does questionable things. tbh I'm not her fan or fan of g-idle, and I wouldn't call some of their songs (like dumdidumdi, for example) masterpieces, but at the same time songs like oh my god, beam beam and dahlia (literally the most beautiful song ever) are indeed masterpieces! and I still don't like some things that she does, but I truly respect her and the group, and hope that they only grow, prosper and get more success in the future.
@theewoo
Жыл бұрын
dumdi-dumdi is my least favorite from idle 😭i just put everything together to make it more dynamic. anyways, thank you for sharing ur opinion
@SuperAliScott
Жыл бұрын
@@theewoo her rap in Dumdi dumbi is one of the greatest flows i ve herad in my life!.
@theewoo
Жыл бұрын
@@SuperAliScott oh yeah, the rap and the lyrics are very creative, and the flow is impeccable, it's just that summer songs are not my taste hehe
@maxadamdor
Жыл бұрын
@@theewoo ME TOO OMGG
@Naty16-06
Жыл бұрын
Dahlia must be the most perfect song ever
@dipshikhasahoo6732
Жыл бұрын
Jeon soyeon ❤ is a master of everything she is doing. The one and only multi-talented idol in the whole k-pop industry.
@noobb499
7 ай бұрын
I noticed that when she gets hate, (lyrics and bad english) it's only from people who listened to tomboy and queencard.
@yqfreak
6 ай бұрын
RIGHT LIKE soyeon has written songs w good english like "villain dies". the beginning of her rap verse was in english and it was written very well for someone who could barley speak english 😭😭
@noobb499
6 ай бұрын
@@yqfreak villain dies was one of my fsvourite side tracks
@jamescurfman3284
Жыл бұрын
FINALLY some common sense about the situations that Soyeon has been in! I am glad that you are so open-minded, that's awesome. VERY well-done video! :)
@laofz
Жыл бұрын
she takes her job seriously and she's very talented and kind , that's what I love about her 💞
@davey6022
Жыл бұрын
Soyeon is a strong beautiful woman who's talent alone is amazing. I'm really surprised about the hate she is getting. People just need to stop You continue doing you Soyeon... F the haters💖
@redoyjoarder6330
Жыл бұрын
Thank you for making this. Soyeon is so extremely talented but yet so criminally underrated because of jealousy I presume & her gender. Because a male artist is held on a pedastal for this sort of achievement. Hating soyeon has become sort of a token for making tweets or posts, which will grab a lot of likes , so many do it just for their minute of fame, even though it's completely ridiculous and sad.
@greguxo
Жыл бұрын
dude you nailed the editing on this one, literally wow
@Nara-qe8gi
Жыл бұрын
Soyeon is a woman, a very talented one Its sad to me that the worst hate (that i saw) mostly coming from the gg stan, from the girls and the gays In open kpop conversation, people will say its normal because of misogyny double standard and shit but she receive worse hate on gg stan conversation Its doesnt make sense to me that the gays could listen to the most crazy experimental chipmunk hyper pop but suddenly (over)hating on annoying(?) voice And thats excluding the cismen that hate her for her feminist songs
@Gaby-wj4vf
Жыл бұрын
"Some people just don´t like to use their brains" lmfao real, soyeon is objectively a great artist, end of story
@deusex9731
Жыл бұрын
I always vigurously defended her in youtube comments, but mostly on the basis of "she is a human", "she can learn and improve" and "a lot of it is on purpose" way, regarding awkward lyrics and stuff, but this video still made me have even more respect than i already have. I didnt know that she spoke out like that as a tutor for example, or that idle can choose their own line distribution (i just assumed she gives them lines based on how she thinks it would sound best). Its insane that one of the (appearently) most respectable people in the industry get so much hate.
@poochthedog1
Жыл бұрын
Soyeon is amazing and she deserves better ❤
@Blitzkers99
Жыл бұрын
She is One of my Favorite Idol 😭 My Bias in G-Idle
@loureedpipes
Жыл бұрын
I think one of the reasons why people get mad at her lyricism, specifically her english lyrics, is because there is a face attached to production. International fans are often frustrated by/make fun of the syntax of the english in kpop songs, but they don't really have anyone to blame but a nebulous "company." Whereas, when people see Soyeon as a visible producer and songwriter, there is a specific person to attack. Not at all saying it's justified (it feels borderline xenophobic, with a sprinkle of misogyny in assuming she doesn't know what she's writing), but I think part of the hate against her might come from the anonymity of production being removed
@theewoo
Жыл бұрын
I wish i could attach this to the video bc thats exactly what i think too
@limpcheesestick
Жыл бұрын
@@theewoo pin it 👀
@Sashawwiiji
Жыл бұрын
I disagree ! Western songs full of slang. Cardi B makes no sense sometimes I don't even know what she's saying. Soyeon should realllyyy comes to America she fits all our standards.
@pinkstrwbxrry4400
Жыл бұрын
@@SashawwiijiThis is always my argument (not specifically cardi b) but the fact that many NATIVE ENGLISH SPEAKING artists have lyrics that don’t make sense. No one bashes them for that but they’ll be so quick to jump on Soyeon for skipping words and for her pronunciation and English.
@OYJluv
Жыл бұрын
This is a very smart and thoughtful comment.
@justonedayy_
Жыл бұрын
It's just sad how people choose to ignore the immense talent she has and choose to just focus on how she looks , these people really need some soul searching istg
@YourPsychoanalyst
Жыл бұрын
I love everything about Soyeon. Her dancing, her rapping, her singing, her song writing, her leadership of Idle, the way she talks and behaves, her personality and her visuals...
@sharanradd
Жыл бұрын
You just said what Neverlands have been trying to say this whole time, in one video and I thank you for it!
@rftg1793
Жыл бұрын
Soyeon is one of the greatest musicians in the kpop industry she deserves all the recognition ✨
@kathacentauri5943
Жыл бұрын
I love soyeon! She's straightforward and isn't afraid to speak her mind and is bold af. Her haters are just sad because they feel intimidated by her. Soyeon rocks haters shocked
@soyeonvsveggies
Жыл бұрын
11:28 whats funny is she doesnt even get the most lines, minnie does 😭
@Koriiii
Жыл бұрын
Yeah surprisingly its usually Minnie and Yuqi getting the most, then Soyeon and Miyeon followed by Shuhua because she directly requested less lines
@andylozano5193
Жыл бұрын
I know the whole group has some input on their lines but ever since Latata they knew the dynamic changes of Minnie and Yuqi singing is great. Miyeon is somehow underrated and Soyeon mostly has her keep a certain tone. Reason why I like Yuqi’s Idle songs a lot is that Miyeon sings different in them stands out more.
@blessparco
Жыл бұрын
Soyeon is my bias. In my eyes she is pretty. For me, she has a fierce aura, an aura of a fighter. For me, there's nothing wrong with her face, after all, beauty is in the eye of the beholder. I find it unbelievable that she gets hate for her visuals plus she's super talented.
@ConfirmedCynic
3 ай бұрын
Right? I don't understand why people would complain. Her eyes are just magnificent. She's crazy hot, dancing in the Queencard MV (performance version). But then, I'm a foreigner so maybe I just perceive differently.
@ashfen99
7 ай бұрын
JEON SOYEON ❤🔥❤🔥❤🔥 I've literally heard most of the raps from multiple girl groups, most of the rappers tend to focus on the flow, speed, strong voice. But when you hear Soyeon's b-side songs raps which she made, she has literally multiple ways to deliver her raps - what made me surprised is she can portray the emotion on the RAP depending on the mood of the song which flows like crazy... Listen to her songs Psycho, kda baddest, bad b number, dumdi dumdi, Han, kda more, Dark xfiles... Etc.. many more Ain't no one do it like her - SOYEON the G.O.A.T 🙇
@Dutch_Nevie
Жыл бұрын
Thank you for making this video. It's a sad thing it had to be made but necessary. I really hope a lot of people watch it and share it. Soyeon doesn't deserve the hate she gets, nobody does! She really cares and wants the best for her members first and for herself last. The same for the trainees she mentors. Look, we all have our flaws and we make mistakes but it's not a reason to hate on someone. But we all know how a lot of kpop fans are. It's so easy to write some hateful lines behind the anonimity of the internet. Most of those 'haters' are cowards anyway. But mostly, I think, it's because they might feel threatened and insecure about themselves to see such a smart and powerful young woman like Soyeon. Soyeon is a real gem in this harsh industry and people really need to appreciate her more for what she has done for kpop, for (G)I-DLE, for her members and for herself. So thank you again for making this video. Spread the love!
@siene1518
Жыл бұрын
Admittedly, I've only recently discovered this group but most of the arguments you've made were things that even I realized during that fairly short time. Personally, I find Soyeon fascinating. She is 100% stunning, singing and rapping + her vocal quality is awesome. And during the recording sessions, you see how much she cares for the song but she is also REALLY good at making sure that the other girls know what is important in their parts. Yes, she can be strict but it's all to make the best version possible. And I feel like it's so refreshing to see someone who genuinely seems to love what she does. Not only the fame but also the craft it takes behind the scenes. She seems dedicated to the arts, covers interesting themes with good messages, beautiful lyrics and the knowledge of how to use the group members talents to make it the best it can be. And all that while seemingly being the "mom" of the group who looks out for them as best as possible and making sure newcomers understand what they get into. I'm sure she has her moments when she gets annoyed by group members because her perfectionism (?). Maybe even to the point that the other members get frustrated at times. But I feel they found a good balance where they know their hard work and trouble will result in something great. As I said, this is only something I gathered fairly recently. Maybe she had times where her good intentions didn't show too well and she came off as very demanding.
@manseeratgill4692
Жыл бұрын
one thing. just one thing i didn't get is how the "cringy" lyrics are memorized by kpop stans, and i can name cringy lyrics from every kpop group out there. why is it an issue when idle does it? the grammar, idle's music is art and art is known to break constructs. if they want much better english, why listen to kpop? i don't mean hate for anyone but i notice how no one thinks of these things.
@fatherrikhi3464
Жыл бұрын
Aw I love Soyeon. She has a sultry quality- like a kpop Eartha Kitt. Much respect for her growth as an artist/ performer among challenging circumstances.
@Yany_is_me
Жыл бұрын
Another thing about the plagiarism controversy, soyeon wasn’t even the main producer of the song. I’m not making excuses but the fact people only mentioned soyeon’s name says a lot. People just made the controversy a chance to hate on her and pull her down cause other than the ca issue, there isn’t really anything to actually hate about. Some fans even found out that the main producer for Sun(soyeon’s song) was a friend of the producer for wave(ateez song), the one questioned should have been poptime(main producer for sun). Soyeon’s fans mentioned poptime and asked for an explanation but was not answered and people hating on soyeon just ignored the fact that she wasn’t the main producer. I’m not saying soyeon had no fault instead i’m saying that she wasn’t the only one at fault, poptime wasn’t mentioned as much as soyeon and wasn’t that affected with the controversy. Even if he did get hate, it was mostly from soyeon’s fans for not speaking out and letting soyeon get all the hate. Most artist don’t even apologize concerning plagiarism, but soyeon immediately apologized after finding about the accusations and even contacted the producer for the “plagiarized” song to apologize and credited him. Another thing to mention is that ateez fans continuously spammed and hated soyeon in different media platforms yet when someone found a song the had the same melody(?) as the songs mentioned, ateex fans(forget their fandom name) immediately stopped their hate train afraid people would instead accuse their faves for plagiarism(which did not happen nor was it even mentioned other than nevies). The song was released a year i think before wave. They’re even acting like sun is an exact copy of wave when the only similar thing between the songs was the melody(?) for the choruses, not saying it’s not considered plagiarism. The same goes for the third song mentioned, the melody(?) for the chorus part is the same. Not accusing ateez or their producer for plagiarism though just pointing out the fact that some songs just have similar sounds or melody without the artists noticing or plagiarizing intentionally. Of course despite everything, soyeon still gets mentioned and hated for this issue.
@user-jz4kc2jz6b
Жыл бұрын
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Жыл бұрын
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@kpopppies
10 ай бұрын
im happy she's fighting over the hate but the fact she's improved this much is amazing. she was 17 on the produce 101 stage, she knew how to rap, change her vocal voice a lot, and she fought through the hate that everyone said about her visual and her singing. now she's 26 and a composer, producer and songwriter and one of the most famous people in kpop. GREAT JOB JEON SOYEON
@2xsunny
Жыл бұрын
I love Psycho and her album Windy. I found it on Spotify before I even knew about Gidle. I was so impressed to find out she writes and produces for the group. She's so amazing and doesn't deserve even a drop of hate that she receives.
@pinkystinkr
Жыл бұрын
I have so much respect for her, it's very rare that you see kpop idols who write, produce and compose let alone have them be women! Her lyrics aren't stupid either, she makes intricate and deep lyrics with a poetic grace to them. While not only having amazing song writing skills, but she also aims to end prejudice towards women and bullshit standards, I love that so much, I love how she's not scared to speak her mind and yell what she thinks. Her stage presence is incredible, and everyone needs to calm the fuck down with the hate towards her; she's truly one of my biggest inspirations if not the biggest. REAL RAPPERS WRITE THEIR RAPS.
@Soojincard
Жыл бұрын
Even though kpoppies like to deny it, a lot of the reason why people get away with this ridiculous hate against Soyeon IS because she is a woman. It's 10x easier to hate on a female idol than it is a male idol, because male idols often have much more intense and ready-to-fight fandoms, and also just because well, misogyny! Yes other kpop idols, including men, get significant amounts of hate, but no idol has ever gotten the amount of hate with little to NO defense for years that Soyeon has. Soyeon was maybe a LITTLE loved during latata and hann (alone), but after that the hate train for her only worsened, and Neverlands were too small of a fandom to defend her properly. A new joke on twitter and tiktok has formed where kpoppies say "Someone needs to take away her pen" even though the majority of these songs of Soyeon's they are referring to are made to uplift women and speak on typically taboo feminist topics when it comes to the Korean entertainment industry. What is this if not misogyny at its finest? They don't like a few lyrics so they decide that all her work put into uplifting women is stupid and she should shut up.
@alej_ndrod1927
Жыл бұрын
She is one of the best female idols I have ever seen. Like many she pushed past the hate, and backlash and reached people who needed her music and to see her perform. Look at her now! She can sing, dance, rap etc literally the while package and she is absolutely stunning! It's crazy that she is millions of people dream and standards but the industry is so toxic. I'm glad that many idols like herself are making their own standards and many fans love it. The "fans" who often "just have opinions" only spread hate but fail to realize that this woman has propelled her group to global stardom, has showed numerous times that she can create new and exciting sounds while staying relevant to the times and still pay homage to things before. And is an amazing leader who pushes her group mates to their fullest. Queencard is the perfect example of what she strives for and it only makes me more excited for the future!
@ohitsyuu
Жыл бұрын
this vid deserves to be watched by so many many more people, i love how wonderfully youve worded and struck each point to us. thank you for defending her and idle, fans like you give the kpop stan community a breathing space
@ayeshatopia
Жыл бұрын
talking about the english pronunciation, i am from Brazil (i didn't know u live here omg), even tho i am fluent and really good at it (english), i have that strong accent when talking. this is NORMAL, i am fluent but i have ACCENT, there are ppl who lives 10 years in USA but still has their accents. i am brightfully happy with the way i talk, high pitched voice and such strong accent, and Soyeon accent is actually what makes her so unique singing and rapping. Not only for Soyeon, but for all ppl who AREN'T english speakers, you should be proud, english is not the only language, your own culture and language is what makes you what you are. be proud of it, specially for all my american-latinos fellas right here, love ya my brothers! 🇧🇷🇲🇽🇺🇾🇦🇷🇨🇴🇻🇪🇧🇴🇭🇹🇵🇦🇨🇷🇪🇨🇨🇺🇵🇪🇵🇾🇨🇱🇸🇻🇬🇹🇭🇳🇳🇮🇩🇴 💗💗💗
@moriko-chan1059
Жыл бұрын
Thank you! That´s such a good and well put video. Soyeon is my bias because she is such a smart and brave idol and actually critisizes things in her music most would shy away from.Her lyrics f.e. are multilayered. the whole I Never Die comeback was also talking about how Soojin being wrongly accused and kicked out. While it also being about the female empowerment I hope most people got. All packed in catchy lyrics. Sometimes I feel people are just afraid of self-made, successful women and hating on purpose to put them down.
@fiohna6243
Жыл бұрын
she doesnt deserve any of this hate, everything that people hate her for is based on misinformation or bias :/
@catmeow-wo9ot
Жыл бұрын
Omg ily 😭😭 i love soyeon a lot and always feel sad when people hate her or exclude her I'm really thankful and wish this video goes viral 😭🙌🏻
@stcrrysky
Жыл бұрын
Personally, the reason I got drawn into (G) I-DLE was because of Soyeons voice, when I first heard it, I was in pure shock. I had never heard such a unique voice in the k-pop industry. I’m not saying that the other vocalists are common place, definitely not because I appreciate that all of them are so talented, but what I’m saying is, I don’t understand why people would hate Soyeon for her looks or voice. I feel intrigued by her everytime I see her, she’s beautiful and she deserves much more love and support.
@Tellurium52mloid
Жыл бұрын
Will defend soyeon like my life depends on it tbh
@beyza4339
Жыл бұрын
I’ve been following these girls since debut but i didnt know what others think. Im definetly shocked by this video. Soyeon? Is getting hate? Especially because of her looks? Tbh she is the most beautiful girl i’ve ever seen. And her voice is the most i adore. Such a unique person
@pixxa3594
Жыл бұрын
10:18 yes I completely agree with this video! although I just wanted to point out the fact that for nxde the original lyrics were “why you think bout nude cause your views so lewd, etc.” if you were to watch the filming behind it you can easily tell that it was originally lewd instead of rude, except one of her other assistants suggested changing it to “rude” instead of lewd and soyeon like that better. so I believe it was not a pronunciation problem, but obviously she does have a little bit of an accent while speaking english. (edit: that is why in the actual song it sounds pretty clear as rude, and she can change from the l to the r sound in the behind filming almost instantly)
@theewoo
Жыл бұрын
I watched it, but I didn't know that 'lewd' was a word, so I didn't even notice it 😭
@pixxa3594
Жыл бұрын
@@theewoo ahahaha, that’s understandable (considering I didn’t know what it meant either, but I’m pretty sure it’s like being a perv or smth)
@woelfingskund
Жыл бұрын
I think it's easy to say that Soyeon is (one of) the most talented idol in the industry. And I always found her very eye pleasing, even if she doesn't fit the KBS, shes cute, sexy, beautiful and everything. But even as a fan of her, her accent in english sometimes annoy me 😅
@theewoo
Жыл бұрын
That's fine. There are foreign idols whose accents ""annoy"" me as well, but I would NEVER come to them with a hate speech regarding their pronunciation. They are doing an enormous effort already by speaking my language.
@Anjan_-
Жыл бұрын
Agreed as well as expect eng one her accent is catchy but yes it's your opinion
@woelfingskund
Жыл бұрын
@@theewoo Agree, Hate speech is never okay!! Prefererence is fine 👍 I will never understand her critiques on her looks. Shes such a low key laid back girl, honest, intelligent and natural. Talking natural.. without make up she is even more beautiful and thats insane to me! As a musician I look up to her genius 🥰
@the_richcat
Жыл бұрын
I was shocked when I found out that people hated her visuals. I was mesmerised by her visuals when I saw her for the first time
@Candle_Lights06
4 ай бұрын
as a newbie, Soyeon was the frst idol i knew the name of, just becauseof her looks and face. Shes so unique and stands out. Her eyes so pretty, thats literally how i learned her name. Then the rest of IDLE followed, since all of them have something "different" going on
@NJDMashups
Жыл бұрын
If you think about it, What song isn't cringey? Like it's weird that Soyeon gets hate for her song writing being cringey when literally every artist on Earth does the same thing. And i agree that a lot of points in yhe vid that she does it on purpose because that's how she works and how her vision of yhe song should be. I never had an issue with her voice as i thought it was unique from the other voices i hear in kpop. You instantly recognize it. Pronunciation i don't mind much because i see it as "i would get clown for the same thing so who am i to judge her for it?". The FIRE performance thing, its a shame that due to contract reasons they couldn't publicly speak about it. However, im a firm believer of "actions speak louder than words". And from what ive seen and know afterwards, they haven't had another situation like that again so i take that as it is. I still think Soyeon is a great mentor. She doesn't pull back on her criticisms but she actually provides good advice and leaves it up to the person to take it or not. Like you said, the industry doesnt sugarcoat anything; and if it isnt Soyeon saying it, for sure there woudlve been other people who probably wouldve been more harsher and doesn't provide help. Another thing i want to point out, a LOT of comments criticized Queencard and Allergy for how it doesnt make sense for the messages of yhr songs when the characters of the group all look pretty; especially Soyeon's character. Like ive seen one where they went "it would suit the message better if they all are bare faced and not have makeup on. Theyre being hypocrites with this". But my POV is that it makes sense because it shows even the prettiest person with most makeup can feel insecure and would think that plastic surgery would help them.
@SprucedandGussied
Жыл бұрын
As far as I'm concerned, she's one of the most talented and beautiful idols there is. I was blown away when I found out she does so much of the writing and production. That is truly impressive. Also, she is so uniquely beautiful. I think she's the prettiest in the group!
@liatrisflowers
Жыл бұрын
i never understood why korean beauty standards are so strict. soyeon is gorgeous, she has elegant and delicate features. i swear they expect everyone to look the same
@junedee
Жыл бұрын
as a very passsive in the shadows idle fan I fell in love with soyeon just from seeing a bit of her every now and again. her aura, visuals, talent and voice are so powerful, shes such a silver bullet in the industry and even tho everyone seems to want to - shes never gonna be stopped
@DRPL766
Жыл бұрын
She's cool. She's more than an idol. I don't really care about these small controversies. I enjoy the music and talent and focus on that
@DRPL766
Жыл бұрын
and bashing her visual ? So superficial. There's a lot more to show business than just your looks. I'm happy she's fighting against these ridiculous concepts
@MoonxChildxInphy
Жыл бұрын
Soyeon is so memorable. Her face is unique and gorg, her voice is the best part of all of the songs she’s in. She has WORLDWIDE appeal.
@itsmelamiho
9 ай бұрын
this video is the exact thing that I need, thank you very much
@OYJluv
Жыл бұрын
Another thing I want to point out is that she ADORES her group. Shes always looking for ways to highlight and showcase their talents and you see the girls love her back. If weird knetz want to talk about real sisterhood in a kpop group this is the first group that should be mentioned. They even poke fun of themselves all the time. I think that if the group were to break up soyeon will be the most affected emotionally. She is still hurt when people mentions soojin.
@jayslavaa
Жыл бұрын
NOT EVEN A KPOP GIRLIE BUT SHE HONESTLY ATE?? shes literally so gorg too
@whisppp
Жыл бұрын
Can't believe that people are calling her ugly when I'd do anything to be as beautiful as her
@yimingli4827
Жыл бұрын
Soyeon has always given her 100% to the audience since debut. She was already perfect since Latata but she still found ways to improve herself. She doesn't fit the public standard of beauty and voice but she has become so much more popular and successful than some idols that do fit because of her talent. I respect her for making music from her own perspective and will always support her.
@ajnosz120
Жыл бұрын
The script fro thsi video and the structure, everything is so well done. Big ass thumbs up, I subscribed to your channel. This video was lit, sooo true!!!
@lullabyluna7170
Жыл бұрын
To be able to go through that amount of hate and use it as fuel to produce bangers is exactly why Soyeon is my bias. She’s giving us all something real, not fake confidence or something manufactured but just pure talent and for that reason I will indeed be twerking on the runway with her
@ayeshatopia
Жыл бұрын
this should be seen for SOME ppl in this plataform! such good video 💗
@_Tish
Жыл бұрын
she's one of the many people in kpop who stands out. sure does magnets tons of haters. I dont stan but I love her. She's oozes a unique aura and stands out. Haters just nitpick at everything they can just to hate her lol at the jelly beans!
@guacamolitojaguacate3726
Жыл бұрын
Ok, i appreciate all the effort you put in this video to talk about the nonesense hate that soyeon recieves but let's take a moment to appreciate the scenes of "your name" 🤧 And also i loved the editing, and of course SOYEON QUEEN 💋❤
@Jay1hope
Жыл бұрын
I never fully understood why Soyeon gets so much hate. At first I heard it was because of her voice, then I heard it was about her being “ugly”, or about her being a bad producer. Soyeon has been my bias from the start and I never found her ugly or annoying. Us international fans seem to be more open minded, and I’m not saying all Korean fans are toxic because that isn’t true. But a big majority of them are..
@anuabraham5823
Жыл бұрын
One of the most genuine artist in the industry who takes her career seriously and try her best to make good outcomes out of it. She's really passionate about what she's doing.
@carriesnaps3508
Жыл бұрын
THANK YOU! Thank you so much for making this video! It baffles me how vile kpop stans can be. And the hate Soyeon gets, especially regardings things like "bad english pronunciation"🙄, just feels like an excuse to [finally] express their own internalized xenophobia against koreans out loud. Nevies (especially SY biased) have to constantly fight for their lives to defend her and it's exhausting. But *I'll never stop doing it because she deserves it!* I adore her and want the world for her. So tysm ❤
@Sashawwiiji
Жыл бұрын
Kpop fans don't deserve Soyeon !!!!! People sleep on her, she's literally the hottest idol EVER !!! Damn I wish she could see this. She fits 500000% the western beauty standard. GIVE UP KPOP AND COME TO AMERICA TO BE THE QUEEN YOU DESERVE TO BE !!
@ahriannamia9637
Жыл бұрын
I Love her so much she doesn’t deserve any hate. G idle has already been through enough :(
@Huurreew
Жыл бұрын
People tend to forget that soyeon is KOREAN she has a korean ACCENT! It’s natural to have an accent. Even native English speakers have it (british, american etc.)
@1monthchallenge693
8 ай бұрын
This is why I love her❤. She is the original artist in this unrealistic world.
@giuliar7944
Жыл бұрын
Ok I am one minute in and I am already confused. How is she considered ugly? She is genuinely one of the most beautiful girls I ever saw. I know Korean beauty standards are different but damn...🤯
@zephfyre5167
Жыл бұрын
Soyeon is amazing. I like how she can voice out what is necessary to say when others are afraid to do the same.
@PriyaRanjan613
Жыл бұрын
Something I've realized is that soyeon and idle as a group are very intentional with everything they do. From their lyrics, to production, to pronunciation, everything is done with intent and just because we as an audience don't understand/agree with that intent, doesn't make it bad. You had a lot of really great points but my favourite one you discussed was about her voice. I love that you said she's learned how to use her voice in the right way. I think this is important especially in kpop where some idols try to "change" their voice. I'm not sure how to explain it but I've seen people say how certain idols are made to sing in a way that isn't natural to them or forced to sing in a register that doesn't suit them. I guess a good example without naming names are the idols that are made to sing in a "cutsey" voice if that makes sense. There's one idol in particular that comes to mind when I think of this - I won't say who it is but they get criticized a lot for their vocal but I've also seen people praise them when they sing in a lower, more suitable register. Anyway, I think soyeon uses what she has to her advantage and I think she does the same for her members. You can't deny that soyeon is also a really great musician and takes the artistry surrounding music important. She's credited for most of the groups songs and we know that she strongly believes in writing your own raps and with kpop groups throwing in the rapper position when its not always needed, or simply to give a position to member, its refreshing to see someone like soyeon. She and her members make idle as a group stand out in kpop right now and while you may not like everything they do, the respect has to be there.
@vxoxo1
Жыл бұрын
Thank u so much for this video! Someone really needed to say all that!
@Nara-qe8gi
Жыл бұрын
Ethnic hip was a mess But i hate how nowadays toxic gg stan use that word everytime others doing ca to joke around (!!!) shift the focus and saving their favs Theyre also literally classify her with other idols that doing blackface, blaccent, saying nword etc when shes never done any of that, and that as a rapper, the one that most likely fucked up because of the ignorant with black culture
@manseeratgill4692
Жыл бұрын
please educate me on the ethnic hip part, isn't it similar as to how korea's music was generalized under "kpop" from outside when it was actually called "idol music" by knets? i wasn't a fan at the time so i would want to learn what problem did really occur at the time.
@pigeondance
Жыл бұрын
@@manseeratgill4692it's similar but that thing is also not okay? both are a big side-eye
@yevahakobjanyan
Жыл бұрын
i absoulutely love soyeon. i have sm respect her. like shes genuinly someone i look up to, shes the type of the person that always has everything under control, i cant explain how proud of her i am
@luciarose2734
Жыл бұрын
soyeon is the most talented 4th gen idol by a mile and she will never get that recognition because she's not conventionally attractive. i feel like she has the power to change the entire industry ❤ stan jeon soyeon for a prosperous life
@jesus_luvs_u
Жыл бұрын
Everytime I see her perform I think shes gonna have one of the longest lasting pop careers in SK
@bubble946
Жыл бұрын
I am a baby ARMY but the talent this women has is unmatched . Sorry but she's one of THE MOST TALENTED. It's a shame that ppl hate this women. If a man or a "favorite" would have done the same , you would call them HOT AND PROFESIONAL!!! And are people of SK blind or what? She has gotta be one of the most beautiful women I've ever seen!
@animec-dramaskpop6362
Жыл бұрын
If you're new to kpop you are gonna discover that the SK beauty standard is pretty toxic.
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