This had me in tears. I never coincided the rise of Instagram and social media with the downfall of the party scene, but it makes total sense. I used to be trashed 24/7. As in I was fully carrying a water bottle full of vodka to beauty school with me every day along with being cracked out on adderal and diet pills. It was the look. I was very open about my drug use as if this is what made me "glamorous". If I couldn't find a party or event happening, then I was throwing one. By the end of 2012 though it had all kind of faded away. I blamed it on the fact that by then I had graduated beauty school and was starting to try to build a career. It was more than that though... Those years, or at least the parts of them I was coherent enough to remember, were amazing and full of debauchery. I come from a very small town in Arkansas and grew up watching MTV's Spring Break, Real World/Road Rules and discovered NYC's Club Kids along with drag queens such as Rupaul, Jackie Beat and Coco Peru at an early age. This all fueled a debilitating case of FOMO before i ever hit puberty. Cut to 2009-2012, I was living on the west coast and, after feeling like i had missed out on 18 years of greatness already, refused to let a chance to be too much, party too hard and fill every moment with experiences go by. I was actually going through an extremely rough mental health era at the time(if the water bottle full of vodka wasn't a sign) so it's ironic that I cherish this period so much... Wow, I just dumped it all out on the comments. This triggered me hard though. Thank you for helping me rehash a period in time were I was a God damn fucking rockstar...ish.🖤🖤🖤
@edwardduarte7393
7 ай бұрын
vodka and coke....
@C.U.N.Tahiti
7 ай бұрын
✋🏻 Red wine and Vicodins
@rachelWDV3485
7 ай бұрын
Red bull & cheap tequila!
@isabella-a-a-a
6 ай бұрын
Wow, so real. Thanks for sharing this. I had a friend that is basically the exact same timeline and story, including graduating beauty school being when she stopped. I think there was also something to this scene coming right after the candy kids clubbing era, and right after so many of us had been awkward emo teens on MySpace dreaming of being out partying.
@waterpistolaaron
6 ай бұрын
@ohhddeer Awkward emo teen? Me? If you call stealing my grandmother's dusky shade of mauve Mary Kay lipstick and wearing it as eyeshadow, upper and lower lid for that perfect pink eye look, awkward.... Did I also sob while listening to Screaming Infidelities by Dashboard Confessional on repeat even though I related on absolutely no level at all? Yes I did? Did that make me emo? Yeah, that made me 💯 an awkward AF Emo who was so edge I had an Xanga account before MySpace was even a thing.
@sunflower6939
6 ай бұрын
Indie sleaze was just depressed and ED riddled hipsters, myself included. I think a bunch in my friend group could agree it was a dark time
@aotctd
5 ай бұрын
It was Culture Vulturing Our Cultures
@Tealaful
3 ай бұрын
@@aotctdIt was a pure party culture that did what it wanted with all the fucks and no fucks given. It stole from every subculture what it wanted and got wasted on whatever was on hand. Truly dark times. Calling it indie sleaze is actually embarrassingly accurate.
@VampChainz
3 ай бұрын
ED riddled. From too many party favors. I've seen it😂😂 thankfully avoided that affliction😂😂
@jayceannapalmer3841
3 ай бұрын
Still, one of the best era to happen 😂🤷🏻♀️
@chymicalbride8065
5 күн бұрын
@@VampChainzdifferent ED, babe 💀
@thehapagirl92
8 ай бұрын
The Euphoria kids would be indie sleeze kids if they were in high school when I was in high school from 2006-2010
@cvlts222
7 ай бұрын
Haha I was in high school in that era too. 2007-2011.
@FoundSheep-AN
7 ай бұрын
Euphoria is heavily inspired by Skins UK
@shade247
7 ай бұрын
S K I N S
@jfay1111
6 ай бұрын
Can confirm 😂 as a ‘99 baby with a sister who graduated in 2012 but never really left her hot mess era, my generation would eat her pop culture up!
@TheLunablackheart
6 ай бұрын
Let's not talk about Euphoria anymore 💀
@oldtimesong
7 ай бұрын
I can confirm we were all wearing the tightest jeans, trashed chucks, we were overly greasy and smoked too many packs of cigs. I'm not willing to bring this back, honestly. it was a dark period, and the overuse of substances and the high pressure on women to be walking skeletons is something we should never bring back. Nicely done video! it felt very nostalgic.
@ieatkids03
7 ай бұрын
Deffo agree about the drug use but im living for electroclash music to come back
@oldtimesong
7 ай бұрын
@@ieatkids03 oh, the music was GREAT!!!
@Nayteyou
7 ай бұрын
@@ieatkids03 this! Let’s bring back the non toxic parts
@SidVacant69
6 ай бұрын
Not 10 year old me looking from the sidelines and being jealous that I couldn't party, and wanting to be apart of it now that im 22 O.O
@starkillerclub3755
6 ай бұрын
Bring it back!!!!
@Myplaylists93
Жыл бұрын
As a former early 2010s indie sleaze person, I can definitely appreciate this aesthetic and I'm glad it's being acknowledged. However I think it's way too soon to bring it back. Also you did a great job with this video, it's definitely very historically accurate information you've got here. Edit: Woke up with the worst hangover, I threw on some thick black sun glasses & a business casual autumn sweater. I felt the most 2011 I had ever felt in my life. I fully embrace the return of Indie Sleaze now.
@fotoautomatmusic
Жыл бұрын
I know I mean im still sometimes wearing it and its back already ha
@SidVacant69
6 ай бұрын
Guess I been unintentionally wearing indie sleaze lol (I drink here n there periodically and waking up to hangovers is nothing new to me.)
@espes531
6 ай бұрын
Ehhh feel like blazers are more hipster.. I'd break out an American apparel hoodie for an indie sleaze hangover
@markjeffersondimalanta3374
Жыл бұрын
Kesha and Lady gaga 2008 music videos
@gabiocampos
11 ай бұрын
They were not indie, but at least sleazy
@Asshat237
8 ай бұрын
Yeah, wtf?
@tessarae9127
7 ай бұрын
Yeahhhh right look up Best In Class by Late of the Pier 😎😎😎
@VividYouth
7 ай бұрын
But (as ex hipster/ sleazy gal from Sweden ).. kesha and Gaga were just too corny, mainstream and did it 7 years later than everybody else 😂 super corny
@Nayteyou
7 ай бұрын
@@gabiocampos but lady gaga randomly appeared and performed like 2 songs at steve aoki’s club one night when i was there dancing right before she blew up, so idk
@sophietessier8998
Жыл бұрын
i had a flashback of the terrible period of when "swag" became the trend while still keeping many of these shillouette of indie sleaze. Like wearing a NBA jersey over a galaxy of neon leggins with huge jordan basket, while rocky the side bang with a beany. and if it was cold an american aparel sweater. I prefer 100% full street wear than what even that was lol.
@cm-yu6gu
Жыл бұрын
Omg you just perfectly described the nightmare of that fashion era like what even were those times lol
@prod.kidmizu
6 ай бұрын
I honestly think we should bring it back!
@usualdosage7287
3 ай бұрын
Specifically a bulls jersey
@aldenshay
7 ай бұрын
I had no idea my college aesthetic had a name until now. I think we just called it Kesha lol. Life was great when Facebook was the only social media.
@nak3dxsnake
6 ай бұрын
You spelled Myspace wrong.
@moonlightprincess449
21 күн бұрын
@@nak3dxsnakeMySpace wasn’t as big Facebook was coming up
@architectsneedunions
7 ай бұрын
I think that what we are now calling indie sleaze bled into tumblr girl soft-grunge rather seamlessly. After the myspace/facebook flash pics came more curated but still messy tumblr posts, not all of which were anonymous. Tumblr is feeling a lot like an in-between of those candid party fotos and the hyper curated blue-ass-water post-hipster instagram posts of the early-mid 2010s. All this to say that I don't think we're getting the carefree partying we did back then back, unless social media gets banned form certain spaces. There's a reason why some clubs took people's phones away in the mid-2010s (can't confirm if or where this happens today). Thanks for the hit of nostalgia ^_^
@m00min-music
6 ай бұрын
In Berlin Clubs you have to put a sticker on your phone cameras to cover them :) If anybody notices you're trying to take pictures, people around you will tell you to stop. They manage this quite well here
@Myatheroses
7 ай бұрын
Effy stones entered chat. Actually all of Skins but her aesthetic was indie grungy in particular
@kmiwachan
7 ай бұрын
My teen self was obsessed with skins omg
@PrincessKLS
5 ай бұрын
I was in my mid 20s when I saw it on BBC America and I loved it.
@systemcrasher
5 ай бұрын
I think about skins at least once a day
@jayceannapalmer3841
3 ай бұрын
Same 😂😊
@aleisterlilywhite1109
Жыл бұрын
Yes!! Everything American Apparel, glitter, and casual cocaine use.
@aestheticsexplained9639
Жыл бұрын
just casual of course
@layditms2
Жыл бұрын
which were already other generation's and culture's styles 😬 🤮
@aleisterlilywhite1109
Жыл бұрын
@@layditms2 Yeah, the 70’s and 80’s in America. Disco pants, skater skirts and lame’.
@maverickbull1909
9 ай бұрын
Totally casual. If you’re doing it at a party it’s cool. If you’re doing it alone by yourself somethings wrong haha
@shannon4386
6 ай бұрын
I remember being told that weed was sketchy because weed dealers were weirdos, but cocaine was no big deal because selling it was an actual business, so the dealers took it seriously. Oh how the turntables.
@blanket4763
7 ай бұрын
I remember my mom telling me during the 00s that the 80s were coming back but I never understood it but this made it click what she was seeing at that time
@Aeroga201
2 ай бұрын
Thats really interesting!
@ihatenfts501
Ай бұрын
Things come back every 20 or so years. She was smart for recognising that
@beeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
4 ай бұрын
I think the "ignore my ugly house arrest ankle bracelet" Tumblr post almost perfectly encapsulates this subculture
@CaseyTheBunny
6 ай бұрын
Indie Sleeze is all edgy and fun for you all but I grew up with people dressed like them, they all came out of the trailer park, always high on something. So yeah for normal people it's a style for people that know people like that for real, that style is a warning
@RjHerndon
Жыл бұрын
Personally, I like the idea of dressing like the sleazy men I used to be into. It's like taking back the aesthetic.
@phoebes2036
6 ай бұрын
Thank you for that acknowledgement at the end about the behind the scenes predatory nature of this era. Even though I was in the scene during high school it was obvious to me how girls were being sexually assaulted by the creepy older men which is a tale as old as time unfortunately. But when are girls and young women not being exploited? That’s what I’d like to see as the biggest change going forward
@Wordup-s4c
7 ай бұрын
i was there and we dressed colorful because it reminded us of the neon 80's and rad 90's from our childhood and we were all collectively suffering from a quarter life crisis. that had absolutely nothing to do with wanting to flaunt wealth during a recession lol
@SidVacant69
6 ай бұрын
Not me going through a quarter life crisis
@espes531
6 ай бұрын
Literally.. Kesha's lyrics were "I don't care about your bougie friends!"
@maverickbull1909
9 ай бұрын
You know… Iived through this at the perfect time but didn’t know it. I thought effy was the coolest girl ever in highschool. I’d say that social media definitely ruined things with its perfectly curated vibe but I guess that’s how things go. I don’t think it can really come back. People wear “aesthetics” now by studying it online and copying ppl which is different than wearing it because you’re really living that life. There’s something very uncool and poser-y about that. As a former indie sleaze hipster I could never.
@lorro4loco
6 ай бұрын
You know you’re getting old when your “coming of age” years is put in a video formatted like this🙃
@aotctd
5 ай бұрын
The styles were from other cultures anyhow You were the Imitators
@mrs.v6394
28 күн бұрын
Lol when they said it died in 2012 it made total sense. I had a baby in 2012. This aesthetic died for me a couple years before that! haha was fun to indulge in while it lasted. Glad I wasn’t in too deep. I have peers who never recovered from this mess lol
@ORYAN99
8 ай бұрын
I love the fact that a really short segment from skins secret party being showed for 80 % of a 17:30 minute video
@waterpistolaaron
6 ай бұрын
Question for those who lived the Indie Sleaze life.... how bad was your skin though? Like, mine was terrible. All the drunken nights passing out in my makeup never washing it off, just smearing more black eyeliner on top of it, and repeat. And we all shared eyeliner. Like how tf me and my friends don't have perma pink eye from the years of touching up our makeup using the uncapped eyeliner Danielle found on the bottom of purse...🤷🏼♀️🤯
@droolingpine9658
4 күн бұрын
Mine was fine 💅 but i was a teen lol
@hannahlanai
5 ай бұрын
Skins was super popular I remember. The UK, not the US one, which sucked. It seems hyperbolic and ridiculous now when rewatching, but it perfectly captured so much of what I people I knew were trying to be at the time. The only fashion thing you missed out on was the absolute choke hold Jeffrey Campbell "Lita" shoes had on people.
@SR-wv7ub
3 ай бұрын
I graduated HS in 05 and learned to party in this era. I work with a wide age range and because I have a babyface and no kids, my zoomer co-workers think that I'm one of them and frequently invite me out with them. I am genuinely shocked by how hard zoomers don't party! No pregaming, no drugs except maybe a weed vape, no dancing, lots of screen time, they think it's weird to interact with anyone who's not in our group, then they get bored and go home a little after midnight.
@potatoknishes5860
2 ай бұрын
Most of the parties I ever went to looked like music videos from the 00's. It makes me sad that they don't get to party like that haha and live 😅
@RandomEgo
7 ай бұрын
the chokehold Skins had on all of us was no joke
@awakeinthedream1111
7 ай бұрын
I lived through this, but wasn’t a huge partier thank god so I missed a lot of the negative social parts. Lots of awful stuff behind the scenes. But the fashion and much of the art were genuinely exciting and accessible. I loved my fluorescent blue tights. There was also that hipster expectation to be well cultured, enmeshed with the need to be spontaneous. You had to be educated on certain things and you had to be wild & just have fun too. So it never felt boring or empty. Interesting times 💜 great work!
@bicuriousdirtbikeboi2594
5 ай бұрын
Indie sleaze was unique to me because it’s the one of the only aesthetics that seem aggressively straight but also aggressively queer. Maybe this is just because my older brother was gay and VERY much in the indie sleeve lifestyle, so when he would throw parties at our house I would see the straight kids at my brother’s school mixed in with the queer kids who were his friends and everyone just seemed to understand it. Like both cultures got molded together in a way I’ve never seen since then. Also this entire asthetic is basically summed up in the movie Project X
@aotctd
5 ай бұрын
The Styles are older than you
@bicuriousdirtbikeboi2594
5 ай бұрын
@@aotctd I was born in 2000 lol
@mcnoneya
2 ай бұрын
@@bicuriousdirtbikeboi2594oh sweetie you are so young
@bicuriousdirtbikeboi2594
2 ай бұрын
@@mcnoneya I’m 24 but I feel 82 and 16 at the same time 😂😂😂
@mcnoneya
2 ай бұрын
@@bicuriousdirtbikeboi2594 okay I did my math wrong- it was late at night. I still think that is young but not as young as i was thinking. 2000, still seems like 10 yrs ago to me. So I was thinking late teens at the oldest 22. I’m 33, and I feel the same way, I used to mock my mother for making sounds when moving sometimes, yea don’t do that anymore. 🤦🏻♀️🤷🏻♀️ then again I have chronic health problems so it’s like my body is an introvert but my mind is an extrovert. So I want to do all these amazing things but my body just can’t. I’ve been watching these videos analyzing the fashions of the 2000’s-2010’s because I’m nostalgic for my 20’s when all my friends were single with no kids. i didn’t get to have the experience I wanted BUT I also had a better experience then a lot of people with similar difficulties. Oh and btw you can have fun sober ;) just fyi. My friends were enjoying life, but still preparing for the future, for me it was the first time I had friends who saw a brain instead of a “poor little sick girl”🙄 so I was living in the moment, I didn’t have that regular teenage experience, so I embraced the now. Now I’m 33 and feeling aimless and I know what I like to do but not much discipline my life is far from what I expected/wanted, granted I was never quite sure what I wanted🤷🏻♀️. My advice, create that self discipline now, and take good care of your body now, those habits if you start young will be easier to keep as you age. And as far as figuring out what you want out of life, I keep telling myself this and others tell me the same- everyone has their own timeline.
@4evergogo
6 ай бұрын
Esssspecially.. not expecially Not being mean, you just say it a lot. 💕 Good coverage btw.
@ichig0tchi
7 ай бұрын
Nothing to add this was extremely well informed lmao every time I'd think "you're missing x" you brought it up later lol
@Tempest87
11 ай бұрын
Height of college and early 20’s. Especially the Black versions of this that often overlapped with streetwear. Our idols were J*Davey, SA-RA, Zoe Kravitz. Odd Future, and for some Suzi Analougue. It’s funny to see shit you did and lived through getting a retrospective.
@maverickbull1909
9 ай бұрын
Omg zoe kravitzzzz!!! Queen
@eyespy3001
7 ай бұрын
SA-RA Creative Partners. Haven’t heard that name in ages!
@m00nlove
4 ай бұрын
i never noticed indie sleeze taking inspiration from the 1980s but it totally makes sense
@Indiexboyfriend
10 ай бұрын
Finally-someone who knows what they are talking about. Very accurate.
@jaydarobison4819
6 ай бұрын
girl where are your sources lol
@SirenASMR_
8 ай бұрын
ugh well i am going to stick to my classic goth dark style. have not changed in 15 years and i am still in fashion now
@dicarodo
6 ай бұрын
AS much as i looooved this aesthetic...its not super inclusive. As a colored girl I always felt left out and wanted to look like the it girls but couldnt achieve the look..because obviously i wasnt wyte. So hopefully its comes back with more inclusivity lol
@Askalott
5 ай бұрын
I was gonna comment about the “Electric Feel” music video and then you showed it! That’s the first thing that comes to mind when I think “Indie Sleaze” 😆
@floristfindspeace
2 ай бұрын
also the song “tongue tied”
@fotoautomatmusic
Жыл бұрын
Loved it and lived through it, indie lcubs till all hours every night of the week in London, electro clash and indie music fused and were perfect party tunes. Glad it coincided with my early-mid twenties and beyond. And youre correct instagram curation is probably what killed the style. Special note to Nylon and Super Super magazine for being on trend (ID was up there too). Myspace days were the best way to find your communities, book gigs and discover new music. Long live the coloured tights and pixie boots.
@edwardduarte7393
7 ай бұрын
Justice playing in the background.
@SR-wv7ub
3 ай бұрын
@@edwardduarte7393 But Daft Punk is playing at my house.
@C.U.N.Tahiti
8 ай бұрын
The photo book Misshapes is a perfect documentation of this indie/hipster/club aesthetic
@raphzed1335
6 ай бұрын
This is kind of back with this new tiktok techno/trance that is around right now i think. The whole aesthetic is to look like your extravagant depressed and coked up. I hate how much it feels like counterculture is a product rn...
@elineriksson5174
6 ай бұрын
I think that since the times we lived in then felt so uncertain, it fed the "laugh now, cry later" forever partying hipster.. Something you really cant underscore enough in hindsight is that this timeperiod was *truly* sleazy! Since facebook hadnt really become mainstream yet there was still an element of anonymity online. It wasnt the end of the world if you were blackout drunk at a party and all kinds of debauchery happened to be captured on camera because there were no means for you to be tagged in said "incriminating" media and it following you forever. There was an unmistakable sense of freedom that came with this, and ppl lived and partied accordingly. We had just witnessed one of historys biggest financial crisis.. Ppl were emulating 80s fanshion with great irony, we had been made painfully aware that the security, wealth and yuppie lifestyle our parents might have experineced late 70/80's could just go up in smoke overnight.. I cherish my memories of this time in my life and there are very few things i regret personally. But with this indie sleaze revival its very much romantizied by ppl who didnt experience it, and what they fail to mention is that these were very grimy times. Before metoo with a really heavy drugscene..
@JumpyPenguin-nn3bs
3 ай бұрын
The strokes. The libertines. This was an aesthetic kind of northeastern but mainly British.
@Eponine_Sandon
7 ай бұрын
Where I live trends we’re always 2 years behind in trends so this was like 2010-2014 and I was 12-16 and the choke hold indie sleaze and hipster had on me was unreal
@Sammy200655294
6 ай бұрын
I owned like every single item you mentioned :D (including, unfortunately, an eating disorder). Let's hope next time around we can all enjoy it without the feeling the need to be extremely skinny. I still love this style so very much.
@isabella-a-a-a
6 ай бұрын
Some notes, as someone who lived through this scene in my late teens/early 20s: -Vice magazine was the most crucial driving force for the fashion end of this. Hyper-critical, hyper-sexed and edgy content. Would do street fashion shots of unhoused elderly people living on the street in their fashion inspired spreads. Dark-lit photos of cokes up parties, PBR in every hand. -Pitchfork, Stereogum and Brooklyn Vegan had an absolute grip over us. Pitchfork reviews were the most anticipated thing anytime an album dropped, and would fuel SO MANY conversations. -Everyone had the American Apparel hoodie with white drawstrings. It was the hipster equivalent of uggs, in a way.
@zr3933
7 ай бұрын
So much glitter, we used to dump edible glitter in vodka and drink that. Still not sure that was healthy 😅
@CoopersDescent
3 ай бұрын
It’s similar to the 90’s Heroin chic. Instead of Dakota there was Jennifer Herrema.
@adelia6537
Жыл бұрын
i think i just found my new channel to binge 😩
@matttorrence2900
6 ай бұрын
What about the Fiona Apple CRIMINAL video from 1997?
@netizenrealness
6 ай бұрын
90s heroin chic (🤮) which definitively influenced indie sleaze in y2k/2010s
@thinkfirst1989
6 ай бұрын
lol. I went to my first rave in 2008. I'm still indie sleaze. Currently wearing a ponytail from yesterday bound by a white bow with a my flyaways in tendrils, a chain necklace, a Wednesday Adams dress, ripped neon yellow fishnets and bright peach knee socks. I'm literally just chillin', ate this slice of pizza that was out all night, about to drink another French press and clear a bunch of space on my computer by putting old photos on my hardrive, so I can write up my song lyrics for the band I started with some new friends from a party.
@M.éloDie
2 ай бұрын
Wasn't it originally "Heroin Chic".
@Ash-vw4yt
7 ай бұрын
its funny because I dressed in this aesthetic when it was popular but I did not party at all lol. I lived in a rural county in Virginia during this time period at my parents house. I was 20 in 2009 at the start of this trend and 24 in 2012 when It died out. I became obsessed with it because I was longing to go out and party but because my parents were evangelical christians who would not let me drink or go to nightclubs or have any life at all outside of church and work so I used to live vicariously through the pictures of cobra snake. I would buy these clothes rom forever 21 or urban outfitters or American apparel or the thrift store and take flash photography pictures inside my house of me dressed up imagining I was going out to a party. I did not have the means to move out of my parents house until 2014 so I was a very late bloomer when it came to nightlife. I started going out to nightclubs in late 2015. I still go out to clubs now with my husband because I want to make up for lost time even though I am 35. I actually wish this style would come back. It was so flattering on me. Oh also off topic but I discovered one of my favorite bands during this time period. IAMX. I was also huge into lady gaga and still am till this day. I loved the yeah yeah yeahs as well and still do.
@Ash-vw4yt
6 ай бұрын
It’s weird for an adult to be inside of a nightclub that’s meant for people over 21? Ok lol. Didn’t know adults were not supposed to go to adult businesses. Weird. Me and my husband go all the time to dance in the nightclubs when we have time to. Didn’t know you were supposed to die after age 22 and not have a life anymore lol. Thanks for letting me know I guess we better go prepare our coffins now
@Ash-vw4yt
6 ай бұрын
Are you a troll or something? How is dancing with my hudband and drinking preying on anyone? We never talk to anyone at the club we kee to ourselves. You sound like a troll and want to pick a fight with someone online. We go to dance and have a few drinks then go home. I never talk to anyone there and neither does he. I am making up for the years I didn’t get to go because I had strict religious parents that wouldn’t let me go out and do anything when. I lived at home in my 20s now that I don’t have anyone controlling me I like to go out. Get lost loser
@Ash-vw4yt
6 ай бұрын
They aren’t just for people in their 20s they are for people over 21. I want to know why you think anyone is being a predator here. Weirdo
@Ash-vw4yt
6 ай бұрын
Also the clubs we go to don’t even have people that young in them most of the time. We go to goth night clubs where they only play 80s and 90s goth music. There are sometimes people that young but mostly it’s people in their late 20s - 50s there since most young adults don’t listen to that kind of music or even know about it. We don’t go to places that play Taylor swift and all that. You sound very sheltered and don’t know that there are all kinds of clubs for all kinds of age ranges.
@Ash-vw4yt
6 ай бұрын
Also why do you keep saying predatory? Just out of curiosity I already told you I don’t socialize there with anyone and only talk to my friends and my husband. Are you saying we are swingers there to hit on young people or something? I’m in a monogamous relationship and neither one of us are into that lifestyle. So what do you mean by predatory? Selling them drugs? We don’t do that either neither one of us sells drugs. It’s clear you are being a troll. I am sure there are swingers that go to clubs but they also go to other social gatherings too like bars. If a 21 year adult ADULT wants to go home with them that’s their choice. 21 isn’t a child it’s a legal adult. Idk what you are even trying to say here. It sounds like you are accusing me of being a swinger when you don’t even know me. I think that lifestyle is icky and it’s not for me. But keep on going an accusing strangers in the internet of things. Like I said you have no life so of course you like to start fights online lol
@dulapeep5609
Жыл бұрын
i love agyness deyn so much during indie sleaze era i wish she's still in modeling industry
@fotoautomatmusic
Жыл бұрын
And Daisy Lowe.
@shade247
7 ай бұрын
So, Skins aesthetic 😂❤
@Ladyfingers-333
6 ай бұрын
And now I must watch Skins for the 100th time
@bluBlaq33
Жыл бұрын
I hated it and I was there for it. I hope it doesn’t come back. Also it bred very toxic people.
@iamdisgusted
7 ай бұрын
Yes,very toxic.
@jayceannapalmer3841
3 ай бұрын
Womp womp 😂
@3rdworld-witch527
6 ай бұрын
Wow. ...love this tbh...Passion pit, M83, phantogram, MGMT, and Animal collective carried me thru high school..and then later findinig cocorosie, crystal castles and Diamanda galas saved me from diving off the deep end of depression...thank the higher powers for such great music ❤🎉❤❤❤
@hanskloss1331
4 ай бұрын
Crystal Castles ?
@adonaiyah2196
4 ай бұрын
You call it indie sleaze but it was just life for so many of us
@matteomai2277
2 ай бұрын
cornball
@rachelscomplaints
7 ай бұрын
Flats/side bangs/80s styles/skinny jeans all leftover from the emo scene 1-2 years prior to 2008
@TheLunablackheart
6 ай бұрын
Okay? This video isn't about emos.
@brigc7755
7 ай бұрын
The difference between the aesthetics I've grown up with (2010's vanilla Pinterest girl from later millenials to the various yet somehow interconnected gen z aesthetics) is so fascinating to me. The way every generation finds their own identity is truly so uniquely human, I can't wait to see what gen alpha does.
@777cartcrash2
4 ай бұрын
Skibidi toilet apparel
@240high
6 ай бұрын
So many things wrong is this written and voiced by an ai ? The pronunciation of is off on so many words geezus
@thecozyconstellation
7 ай бұрын
interesting video essay but the constant mispronunciaiton of especially as EXPECTially is grinding on my nerves
@Maziedivision
5 ай бұрын
All my fellow 90s babies crying in the comments rn, myself included. We were sick and no one was watching.
@andrewveeable
6 ай бұрын
Was there like… no black people in 2008?
@Megan-re2qr
5 ай бұрын
I would say it started in 2003. Was cool in 2005. Went mainstream in 2008. Died in 2010.
@aotctd
5 ай бұрын
Uh No. The Styles are way older than the people imitating them. THE F V C K ! ?
@aotctd
5 ай бұрын
Are you for real ? The Styles are a literal Imitation of Cultures Way Older
@JamesLawner
6 ай бұрын
Aside from the shady behavior and drug-use, we need more of this kind of care-free exuberance during these weird times.
@asgo7320
5 ай бұрын
Fiona Apple's Criminal music video.
@LuxuriousLenay
3 ай бұрын
I LOVE the Kesha aesthetic!!!
@grumpyschnauzer
7 ай бұрын
I can appreciate its time in history (being of the hipster era) but this aesthetic makes my eyes hurt... and likely included me giving side eye hate looks towards the loud girl laughing wildly loud and acting stupid drunk.
@galaxysorceress
7 ай бұрын
According to this video, I was a hipster but when going to a club or two, I definitely dabbled in every indie sleaze accessory. I never did any drugs and have fond memories of these indie days.
@Tealaful
3 ай бұрын
Holy crap. Ive never even given that era in my life a name. I graduated in 08 and the party scene was huge! Looking like a party girl was so normalized and calling it indie sleeze is soooo embarrassing. Lol it was soooo fun but i always ended up feeling pretty grimey after partying at sometimes not so glamorous events. This is so iconic actually. ❤😅 Im glad i didnt miss this. Im actually glad that im a millennial, i just wish the economy was better 🎉🎉
@potatoknishes5860
2 ай бұрын
I graduated the same year, and I don't think the younger gens are partying like we did. But I guess it all has to do with that video mentioned that we were the last care free generation 😢
@Flatsensation
7 ай бұрын
Being in my prime party time at this time was crazy. Clicking threw Facebook picture folders hungover to see if the club photographer got you and your friends on the pics. I miss cheap second hand shopping from this time.
@mrs.v6394
28 күн бұрын
Omg I had that purple urban decay liquid glitter liner. 😂 so good. What a time to be alive. Late MySpace and senior year of highschool. What great nostalgia for me. 😅
@rubywednesdays
8 ай бұрын
Such a great video! These trends are 110% coming back this year. I’m excited to see what modern twist is put on them because I have a love hate with this style
@katdujka4760
7 ай бұрын
I was listening to libertines and strokes in 2005 and I felt like that was indie sleeve too.
@riveranalyse
6 ай бұрын
Yeah, agree - that's what I'd think of not this.
@maren8597
6 ай бұрын
I was too young for this era so my version of this was dancing to tik tok by Kesha on just dance in my t-shirt that I cut and tied up the sides (if you know you know) in middle school in 2011
@colinthompson9804
Ай бұрын
I don't know the age of the creator of this video or those commenting but I can tell you, this shit started in the nineties. It was simply underground and free of identification by social media vampires. I lived this, in three European cities, believe that. Still I enjoyed this video.
@sophieminter0
7 ай бұрын
it's also similar to the grunge aesthetic from 2014
@Doomedcreatures
7 ай бұрын
the recession was the end of 2008. Indie sleave / nu rave started in the UK around 2006. being mainstream around that time in top shop /topman
@raptorgator
4 ай бұрын
It was pretty trashy and tacky looking. I remember being really triggered with an eating disorder at that time and so were some of my friends
@LuciNyte
3 ай бұрын
dEFINITELY part of the top 10 smelliest aesthetics
@goblinwizard735
7 ай бұрын
manic desperation isn’t free or fun.
@Nayteyou
9 ай бұрын
I remember this being more early-mid 2000s? Looking forward to putting together outfits and dancing every other weekday plus weekend and checking online to see your photos on the cobra snake or whatever it was called
@Thrivinginthespotlight
6 ай бұрын
Indie sleeze in the mainstream sense mostly belonged to the celebrities that were young at that time and would drop in to the cobra snake's events and other diy party spaces to be seen and to party. It didnt really die in 2012, i think trend and fashion concious celebs just moved on to something more noveau so that they wouldnt be caught dead celebrating and embracing something that was a social faux pas or becoming one. Alot of the main contenders still live this way and or have their indie sensibilities intact. Great, thorough and very well researched video.
@Gemini_Woman
6 ай бұрын
I was too young to party at the height of the Indie sleaze era, but from 2011 to 2014, I dressed in Indie sleaze/Tumblr Grunge styles, but I didn't even know it was an aesthetic. It was just how I used to dress when I went to raves & house parties. Gaga , Ke$ha and Rihanna in her Loud era was my inspiration, and Skins were massive influenens on me.
@aotctd
5 ай бұрын
LoL As the Grunge and Rave generation cringing at '' tumblr '' '' gaga '' '' rihanna'' And your Avatar styled like Our Childhoods Why is your Generation Mass Cosplaying EVERYTHING how we grew up ?
@aotctd
5 ай бұрын
Like WHY are you all raiding Our Heritage ?
@mooncrater1286
2 ай бұрын
@@aotctd It's fucking mass made polyester clothing and cocaine. If you're calling this shit your heritage you need to realize that you're not in high school anymore because you're probably a Xillenial clinging desperately to the memories of your youth because it was the only time in your life when you were actually happy and not some washed up, bitter, depressed loser. For the record, I find people copying piece by piece earlier fashion eras to be cringy posers who can't find their own styles, but fashion is cyclical, and always will be. You're acting like kids dressing in low rise jeans, peplum tops, and chunky eyeliner are all collectively committing a Rachel Dolezal. Go get a hobby and realize that you're someone who's not even old yet acting like some grandpa yelling at people to get off his lawn. - Sincerely, a Gen Z who doesn't have an """aesthetic""" because it's lame as fuck
@Fausstus
2 ай бұрын
EXPSECIALLY 😂
@Brosig18
Жыл бұрын
So pretty much everything is rebellion inspired huh?
@pabloaviles573
7 ай бұрын
Sky Ferreira w the crickets took me tf out😭😭😭
@mothercat6083
7 ай бұрын
Jenny from gossip girl
@kenaray5401
3 ай бұрын
The dates are off. This was happening in AZ in 2002-2009. I was deep into it and covered it in the weekly indie paper I wrote for. By 2010 it was over; it had gone mainstream.
@marcelinolopez4015
3 ай бұрын
I remember the late 2000s/2010s looking very sticky and sweaty lol
@lizerattttttiiiiiiiiii
7 ай бұрын
A lot of these clips are from Skins. Great show and like they said, it shows the dark side.
@Kurooganeko
7 ай бұрын
My gosh! I HAAATEEEED the 2010s. Indie sleaze is so overloaded taht just looking at it makes me wanna vomit. It doesn't help that I'm right recovering from fod posioning. Your video is great though, Amazing working curating all of these references and managing to assemble all the core information. #Subscribing
@9roselove9
6 ай бұрын
Would love to see u talk about heroin chic in the late 90s
@joytotheworld9255
5 ай бұрын
There’s no x in especially
@Adrian-bx4ue
7 ай бұрын
there used to be a message board called ravelinks where people would post events on the night of. they would post addresses to checkpoints where you would go behind an old chinese or mexican restaurant and pay for your wristbands and a slip of paper to the real address. then you’d find yourself atop an abandoned bank dancing with a girl who just kissed both your friends. she’s a college student in the city and doesn’t know you’re still in high school from the suburbs. later on when they post the pictures youre making the most fucked up face rolling your eyes off. THANK GOD those pictures are gone…😢
@VampChainz
3 ай бұрын
We at least dressed how we lived. Now most cosplay as who they WISH they were😂😂😂
@ValleyRogue.
7 ай бұрын
Seems like they're trying to copy Fiona Apple in the Criminal video tbh
@ryeofoatmeal
7 ай бұрын
I always wonder how does it feels to be in your 20s in 2000's? it must be... good right.? I was only like 10 or in primary school. so i cannot understand the adult life. but looking back at it again, I find them really cool. knowing that the band that I like today are already in their 40s...and watching their old gigs and photos in their 20s omg nostalgia hit 😭
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