In case your still confused about the ending of the fight, the Chosen Undead linked the First Flame, which summoned the fire tornado. The Dragonborn then used the Fus Roh Dah to extinguish it,so the Chosen Undead didn't have a bonfire to resurrect at, so he died permanently, and the entire world was cast into darkness. At least I think that's what happened. Also, I absolutely love this episode and will be kind of surprised if they manage to top it this season.
@fireball1249
Жыл бұрын
Ok, thank you for clearing that up. I too was confused about the Ending.
@lunarnightcore8416
Жыл бұрын
the ending is showing the dragonborn becoming the new lord of hollows like in dark souls 3
@kadenmacdonald4416
Жыл бұрын
@@lunarnightcore8416 no I think that was just him passing out from exhaustion.
@lunarnightcore8416
Жыл бұрын
@@kadenmacdonald4416 the narrator said "let the age of darkness begin" that's the dragonborn completing the lord of hollows quest
@cthulhurage4580
Жыл бұрын
So like i hate to be that guy, but if the choosen undead lights the fire it isnt just a tornado of fire, its essentially a second big bang that resets the land to begin again Dovakiin shouting out the fire is giving him god-tier above ALL of the souls series. Personally i think its an even match without the choosen undead's ability to keep getting up.
@megashark1013
Жыл бұрын
To answer a couple of your questions and critiques: 1. First of all, the Vow of SIlence would 100% work on both the Dragonborn's Shouts and Spells. Shouts are specifically referred to as magic, even going so far as to appear in the "Magic" section of your abilities, and the Vow of Silence is specifically stated to prevent all magic in its area. Not just verbal magic, not just spells, magic in general. Everything being muffled was just a neat visual effect that plays into the miracle's name. 2. They were 100% not trying to BS their way with the whole "Undead vs Undying" thing. You mention that they call humans in Dark Souls immortal, and therefore undead, but what they really said was: "Humans are naturally undying, or *according to the Gods' propaganda,* Undead." In other words, the title of "Undead" is a canon misapprehension deliberately given by the Gods for the sake of prolonging the Age of Light.
@Ris_Grestar
Жыл бұрын
I think I'd attributed the propaganda line just to them being called "undead" instead of "undying," where it was essentially still true/the same thing but made into a negative.
@dillonf1905
Жыл бұрын
@Ris Grestar But undying and undead are two different things. Undying implies that they can't die, while undead implies that they are no longer dead.
@Ris_Grestar
Жыл бұрын
@@dillonf1905 I don't disagree, but fictional sources very often make up their own rules/definitions.
@thelettucebarrel7784
Жыл бұрын
Vow of silence would not work on dragon shouts, it is separated from other magics as it is just a very advanced form of reality warping with your voice and thoughts accompanying it. The shout would still take effect.
@ErrorNamenotfound-mx7bv
6 ай бұрын
@@thelettucebarrel7784 But vow of silence literally forces silence so the shout cant be used cuz... well... no voice
@fillerchannel7136
Жыл бұрын
It's funny that you mention Monster Hunter being Dark Souls rival, as Monster Hunter vs Bloodborne, Dark Souls sister series, is actually a very popular matchup.
@xxfangxx7762
Жыл бұрын
Honestly, I see the Hunter from the Monster Hunter Rise game(cause I don't know if their the same throughout the games) Vs Either Link from the Zelda Franchise or Byleth from three houses, But the Hunter from bloodborne is a interesting one.
@Handlerhandle
Жыл бұрын
@@xxfangxx7762 Link ? NAH... Monster Hunter VS Bloodborne Hunter has been one of the most heated debates for years...
@xxfangxx7762
Жыл бұрын
@SayNyNameYouFreak I can see it considering what they are both at heart, But I said link because when you compare the MH Hunter towards Link, they're almost the same but I do believe link would've had the edge with magic
@helios_is_my_name
Жыл бұрын
there *was* a level cap in skyrim but it was removed in the dragonborn dlc
@scalesthebattlemage4634
Жыл бұрын
Seems like they decided to embrace the chaos and just make the chaos even more so chaotic (they made a wonderful choose, 10/10)
@AsIfItNeverWas
Жыл бұрын
The way they removed the level cap was very strange but kinda made sense as it stopped you from being stupidly OP (even though you already are)
@fillerchannel7136
Жыл бұрын
The point they were making about Dark Souls undeath is that humans are naturally immortal and the Gods propaganda spun that around to label them as undead. Hense, "not actually undead" in the conclusion. Chosen Undead is just an ordinary human by Dark Souls standards.
@GriffinPilgrim
Жыл бұрын
It kinda makes sense, given the philosophy of both games; Dark Souls and Skyrim are both about clawing your way up from level 1 weakness to badassitude but Dark Souls wants the player to still be the underdog right to the end while Skyrim ends on a power fantasy. Not criticising either, it's just different styles, but it does naturally give the Dragonborn a big advantage.
@AtelierGod
Жыл бұрын
In Skyrim there’s a mechanic where you can reset your skill tree and start gaining experience again but retain your level that’s how you max yourself out.
@Handlerhandle
Жыл бұрын
So is Skyrim boring ? I heard dragonborn is already broken from start and bosses are too easy to beat.... What's the allure to play if character is already broken ?
@AtelierGod
Жыл бұрын
@@Handlerhandle most enemies are level scaling so they will be a challenge especially if you crank up the difficulty and play casually. There’s a couple of bosses with a minimum level of 24 so unless you cheese these encounters you will struggle.
@lightinthenight3835
Жыл бұрын
@@Handlerhandlewhoever said that doesnt play legendary difficulty
@HellYeahGaming
Жыл бұрын
Regarding the titling of the episode, in their podcast just before this episode came out they admitted they titled it after the games and not the characters is because of search engine optimization. Skyrim and Dark Souls are simply going to be searched for far more than Dragonborn or chosen undead.
@MrAuthor3DS
Жыл бұрын
Yeah, no Death Battle title has done this since Pokemon vs Digimon (which specifically featured Red and Charizard vs Tai and Agumon). As for the whole undead thing, the truth of Dark Souls's in-universe conspiracy is that the humans aren't really "undead", just undying. So the title "Chosen Undead" is intentionally misleading.
@Yoshirocks92
Жыл бұрын
Umm, Power Rangers VS Voltron from Season 4 says hi by the way as they didn't really call that one "Megazord VS Voltron" when it came out.
@KalinaHitanaVTuber
Жыл бұрын
Considering they had Ulfric gagged at the beginning of Skyrim with nothing but cloth rags to stop him from Shouting, I feel like the Vow of Silence is more than capable of doing the same
@matijasostojic4288
Жыл бұрын
Which is completely stupid since he can still technically speak And the dovah language rewrites reality.
@Ris_Grestar
Жыл бұрын
...I thought they just had him gagged so he--leader of the opposition--couldn't speak and stir up more trouble. lol
@KalinaHitanaVTuber
Жыл бұрын
@@Ris_Grestar No, Ulfric has the power to Shout too. Usually it requires a great deal of special training to gain this power. The Dovahkiin can bypass the usual methods by absorbing Dragon souls
@chefbreccia2642
Жыл бұрын
Sometimes, in Death Battle, I feel they give the loser every possible option, just to make sure they covered all their bases. Along the lines of "even if it worked, it wouldn't be enough" kind of thing. Or, another way to look at it, the C.U. uses Vow of Silence and the Dragonborn just chugs an invisibility potion and waits it out. Anyone who's played Skyrim has had like 10 of those in their backpack.
@thelettucebarrel7784
Жыл бұрын
@@KalinaHitanaVTuberbeing gagged prevents you from actually moving your mouth in ways that can form coherent speech, with vow of silence if everything is just muted as long as the Dragonborn still speaks it and thinks of the desired effect the shout will happen.
@greentoonlink
Жыл бұрын
Yoooo, that controller is sick! Super cool of DyePort for sending that your way, and congrats on the sponsorship!
@Glurger
Жыл бұрын
U know it's gonna be a good day when Ris uploads
@csk7769
Жыл бұрын
dodging light isn't movement speed either, both feats are reaction speed. I wouldn't call Humanity being naturally immortal and never actually dead or undead a semantics issue, the analysis presented it as the most significant thing in the plot next to linking the First Flame
@creaturetransylvania8943
Жыл бұрын
Dodging something is literally moving out of the way of something. Let's take spider-man he has the reaction speed to notice something but he needs his movement speed to actually avoid said thing. Having shooting a arrow be movement speed is tricky but someone could say you need to move that fast to fire a arrow that fast although we have no real life way to figure that out since real world bows have a limit of how much draw weight they can handle.
@weskintime4177
Жыл бұрын
@@creaturetransylvania8943 the Dragonborn scales to dragons who are beyond the concepts of time so infinite speed is consistent for Dragonborn.
@creaturetransylvania8943
Жыл бұрын
@@weskintime4177 I never said anything against that. Your response doesn't make sense with anything I said.
@weskintime4177
Жыл бұрын
@@creaturetransylvania8943 I was saying that as a more concrete way of stating the Dragonborn’s speed than just scaling draw weight.
@creaturetransylvania8943
Жыл бұрын
@@weskintime4177 Should have led with that with your first reply. "A better way to say the dragonborn speed is more fast is that he scales to the dragons in his world which deal with time & infinity."
@SebasTian58323
Жыл бұрын
While Dovahkiin's official translation is of course dragonborn, other unofficial translations of it have it as something like "born hunter of dragon kind". Just a fun fact. I saw a cool comment on another video that I'll copy here if i can find it. "Qverlord 1 day ago this fight had so many clever moments. my favorite is the dragonborn realizing the vow of silence is over when the chosen undead can make sound and he used that moment of pride as an opening to turn it against the chosen undead. the chosen undead linking the first flame is also clever and flavorful to the lore. Remember that when Gwyn linked the first flame he incinerated the black knights that followed him. the Chosen Undead was attempting to do that again here by trying to nuke the dragonborn as a last resort. and the dragonborn respond was perfect. The dragon shout is a reality bending power, when two dragons fight one another, they are debating on who is correct. To dragon, power is truth, those who are stronger are right and therefore their truth becomes reality in a literal sense. The dragonborn using unrelenting force is him enforcing his will upon reality, he's defying the reality of the flame hurting him. Since the dragonborn defeated Alduin, an entity on par if not greater than the first flame, his will is stronger than the flame and he snuffed it out." And my response to it was "Dragonborn really said no you to the first flame and won" Also Fireborn absolutely slaps. Great song by Brandon As for the arrow, basically you fire a cursed arrow at the sun that interferes with the magic being released from a tear in reality. It's prophesized to be able to do it forever but in gameplay it's a limited effect and it's explained in lore as you're supposed to sacrifice someone and use their blood to curse the arrow but instead you just use the blood of a living person who gives it voluntarily
@sultanmalik9808
Жыл бұрын
Man I got so happy seeing your face pop up in my feed i remember watching your reactions back when I was in high school, so seeing you brings back some good memories
@AtelierGod
Жыл бұрын
When dragons shout at you in Skyrim you can use the Breton inborn ability to absorb Magika from dragon shouts.
@sonkeith6318
Жыл бұрын
Due to game mechanics, they count the dragon shouts as magic in game but in lore, they rewrite reality on a fundamental scale by speaking.
@jamesfitzpatrick4108
Жыл бұрын
Nice to see you again Ris. Indeed, you have a good personality to be watching and re-watching the death battles with.
@DukeofGames50
Жыл бұрын
Amen
@TopPigg
Жыл бұрын
The whole undead thing was explained during the Joslin segment. Short version: The gods in power in dark souls lied to the humans, and told them they were undead as a curse. That's why they link the fire, to try and remove it, but it's not real. They aren't undead, they are undying/immortal.
@GuardianGrarl
Жыл бұрын
Ris still reacting to Death Battle... Talk about dedication *claps*
@AltimaMantoid
Жыл бұрын
Ris: *sudden advertisement* Me: *simultaneous sudden advertisement* I blame you, good Sir
@3boltsxd543
Жыл бұрын
Oh my….Ris, I use to watch your videos YEARSSSSSSS AGO. Specifically your horror game play throughs and Death Battle reactions. Somehow you slipped through the cracks. So glad I found you again😭😭
@blazingblue_3039
Жыл бұрын
26:57 "Shouts do not count as magic" Wellllll... Not exactly. It's a bit complicated. According to the game lore, they're not technically magic, but as far as the game engine is concerned - they're just spells,fired through the face of the character model instead of the hands. For example, "Ward" is a spell which is supposed to protect the character against magical damage and spells, but it also blocks shouts. Or it might just be a case of "It just works. - Todd Howard"
@collinstagner6811
Жыл бұрын
Nice to see you get back into Souls, as well as git gud at it. Any chance of you playing Elden Ring perhaps? Same developers and all that.
@Ris_Grestar
Жыл бұрын
Oh I don't think I could ever record/stream those kinds of games. I get way too mad. But who knows?
@stevenchoza6391
Жыл бұрын
Skyrim removed the level cap years ago.
@SlippySteveUK
Жыл бұрын
100% right about monster hunter vs Soulsborne As for servers being offline??? Confused me cause I've cooped on ps4 on a couple areas
@creaturetransylvania8943
Жыл бұрын
Misaka is from A certain magical index. Maybe they got a new title edit person as even the shown next time didn't even say which series both next fighters are from. Having shooting a arrow be movement speed is tricky but someone could say you need to move that fast to fire a arrow that fast although we have no real life way to figure that out since real world bows have a limit of how much draw weight they can handle & durability in general could not handle being used at that speed.
@lozofspielereien8038
Жыл бұрын
That was quite the episode! I didn't expect too much from it, considering how much of a meme Skyrim has become (and I wasn't really invested in these chars), they seemed to have put a lot of work into it. And while some parts can be a little bit confusing, this time it can actually add to the supernatural surreality of both of the characters. Something like Sauron vs Lich King (which had a somewhat similar atmosphere going for, ignoring the villain aspect) is falling far behind this episode. Kinda surprised they didn't open the season with it.
@AngelCam7
Жыл бұрын
To answer one of your questions, I think they had the series out of the parenthesis because people are more familiar with the games rather than the names of the protagonists... at least, that's my best guess...
@victorvaughan2590
Жыл бұрын
Yes they were trying to optimize their place in the search algorithm
@sherminatoranalysis3429
Жыл бұрын
Ah, venom and Star Wars-The crossover we all wanted
@relicking9207
Жыл бұрын
Misaka is from a series called "Toaru" as all of the subseries have it in their Japanese names, she is the main character in "A Certain Scientific Railgun" and is the titular 'Railgun' as she is an Esper with Electro-Kinesis, and the third(if memory serves) strongest Esper in the series.
@tython055
Жыл бұрын
Third rank doesn't mean she's the third strongest Esper in the series. It's been revealed in the WWIII Arc of the OT Light Novels that the ranking system for the seven Level 5s doesn't determine who is the strongest Esper. This is called the Parameter List, as it decides on which Esper gets to be among the top seven Level 5s as a part of Aleister's plan in eradicating the Magic Gods he despised his entire life. Misaka is one of his backup plans should his number one priority Accelerator end up a failure to that plan. And if all seven Level 5s are deemed a failure, he can always replace them with a new batch. This was even hinted in the recent Mental Out manga chapters when a piece of Shadow Metal, claiming to be a disembodied voice of Accelerator's predecessor as the 1st Ranked Level 5, spoke to Misaki and wanted to form an alliance with her to help him get revenge on Aleister. Of course, that never happened in the future. And even if Misaki had joined, they would've obviously failed since Aleister is always three moves ahead of everyone in Academy City.
@relicking9207
Жыл бұрын
@@tython055 I was not aware of that
@readysetmo7438
Жыл бұрын
Oh boy, Patroller on a controller! Very very cool. I'm glad that you have something to commemorate your world records! I also never got into Darksouls and I... actually still have never beaten Skyrim. I have played some Monster Hunter and I have watched all of Bloodborne, so I do actually think those two franchises are more similar in style. But I also get that it's the theme of absorbing souls and such. Oh I was doing some stuff with my back to the screen when the sound cut out, and I was very confused until I turned around and saw subtitles haha KHAJIIT HAS WARES IF YOU HAVE THE COIN Yay! Claps for the victor!
@MWilmott
Жыл бұрын
It’s been a long time since I watched one of your vids, and I was pleasantly surprised to see you got a sponsor! Happy for you, man!
@DukeofGames50
Жыл бұрын
Dark Souls 3 and Elden Ring are FAR more approachable for those who are "not good at dark souls" if you want to try more. You wont miss important lore skipping titles, its not like cinematic sequels in that sense.
@Yoshirocks92
Жыл бұрын
It is a 100% an error on their end since they had released Chosen Undead's preview first and even when the episode got announced after Ant-Man VS Atom, it was called Dark Souls VS Skyrim (Chosen Undead VS Dragonborn) so why they switched the title of the episode in which the thumbnail did not change at all, is beyond me but aside from that error which could easily be fixed, it was a good episode. Next time with Killua and Misaka Mikoto from A Certain Magical Index, I knew Killua was going to appear on the show at some point but I was expecting him to fight a certain black haired assassin with a sword that can kill ya in one hit just by the poisonous curse, *Cough* Akame from Akame Ga Kill *Cough* but yeah, I would have to find someone else for her now. But anyway, Misaka is no slouch when it comes to her electric attacks and there's a reason why she's nicknamed the "Railgun" in not just A Certain Magical Index but also when she's the main protagonist of A Certain Scientific Railgun.
@williamjarvis3295
Жыл бұрын
Symbol list so far: molecule-atom vs Ant-Man Tidal wave- White lotus - Gun for hire- killua vs misaka Swords- chosen undead vs dragonborn Question mark- Ying-yang- Half full circle- Scales of justice- Science beaker- Dollar sign- Pirate symbol- Shuffle sign- (could also be dova vs chosen, have to wait) Star- Recycle - Pentagram
@andrewzeshypikamander1120
Жыл бұрын
Once again, the pentagram can also be Killua vs Mikasa
@@andrewzeshypikamander1120 again safe to assume the pentagram is Hellboy vs Nero since they are both demons
@andrewzeshypikamander1120
Жыл бұрын
@@williamjarvis3295 except we don't know if Nero vs hellboy is happening lmao
@andrewzeshypikamander1120
Жыл бұрын
Can't assume something is for a fact until it actually happens
@C2HGaming
11 ай бұрын
Must be on a nostalgia trip. I was looking for something to watch and randomly wondered if this guy was still making content, lol. Now I have a whole list of reactions to catch-up on~ Glad your still well, I remember you when I was a kid, lol.
@orchidsalvia285
Жыл бұрын
In terms of animation style, it's representing the games. Skyrim is really really stiff, so they actually nailed Skyrim perfectly. Not a lot of animation coming from early dark souls either. Unable to jump, burdened by weight, rolling limited to certain directions and roll speed. So honestly, the animation matches both games really well.
@AtelierGod
Жыл бұрын
I was just thinking this should be coming out soon.
@demonic_myst4503
Жыл бұрын
They got a detail wrong drougre are not reanimated they were the folowers of the dragons they sort of stoped being alive by magic they never really died they just kept moving even after getting old their bodies rotted but they staid alive in a state between life and death caused by the magic of the dragon priests
@Wesker1984
Ай бұрын
The Skyrim DLC, and Legendary Edition, removed the level cap, so yeah you can max out EVERYTHING!
@p.k.firaga6205
Жыл бұрын
I find it funny that I got ads every same moment you did lol
@garrettshadow5375
Жыл бұрын
Killua Zoldyck from HunterXHunter and Misaka Mikoto From A Certain Magical Index/A Certain Scientific Railgun!
@Yuki_Ika7
Жыл бұрын
i love that the last dragonborn did not even have to use Dragon Aspect to beat the chosen undead
@missyummy1040
Жыл бұрын
My arguments to the arrow thing being faster, i just think about it as if imagine him dodging said arrow that he shot
@creaturetransylvania8943
Жыл бұрын
Which would you rather be a chosen undead or dragonborn?
@arborist3227
Жыл бұрын
Who would want to be the Chosen Undead? His life is trial after trial, defeat after defeat, sacrifice after sacrifice and being a pawn of greater beings. You won’t ever receive a happy ending and all your efforts at best stave off the dying of the world for just a bit longer. Don’t know much about Skyrim and the Dragonborn, but in comparison he’s a power fantasy character who the world seemingly revolves around since he’s yet another chosen one character. Kinda seems like a no brainer.
@godsblood85
Жыл бұрын
@Arborist technically, the dragonborns end fate is to be trapped in an eldriitch library as a trophy for a dark deity
@creaturetransylvania8943
Жыл бұрын
@@arborist3227 Haha well some do enjoy the challenge such life brings.
@scalesthebattlemage4634
Жыл бұрын
@@godsblood85 could be worse
@Ris_Grestar
Жыл бұрын
Dragonborn, yeah. Seems like life is still up to me there.
@prime7213
Жыл бұрын
Music in this fight blew me away
@DukeofGames50
Жыл бұрын
I hope Ben, Chad, or Liam would hear your critiques. We're beyond year ten, it's important to hear the fans to keep it fresh.
@cranesilentlyplays8084
Жыл бұрын
Regarding next DB: the theme is super humans with electric themed powers, who are very popular in comparison to the main cast, and are very intelligent. Killua is another main character in Hunter X Hunter and Misaka Mikoto is a main character in A Certain Magical Index and protagonist of A Certain Scientific Railgun. To give more context on Misaka, she’s from a world that has a civil war between two factions (Magic vs Science) and the main character (not Misaka) is put in the middle of it because of the titular character, Index, who is an English nun (who’s basically a map of the church’s forbidden magical books) that both factions want to gain the upper hand against the other faction. While it seems like it, neither character really use Electricity in the normal way. Nen is inspired by Hamon from JoJo and Killua’s electricity themed, while Misaka uses electrons, rather than electricity/lightning (this makes her closer to comic Magneto in versatility.) Killua uses his Nen to buff himself and his martial arts, while Misaka can use a microwave shield, form iron sand constructs, manipulate oxygen with electricity, summon storms, buff her physical attributes by emulating another’s ability (Rampage Dress), and etc. Misaka’s well known for her Railgun attack, which uses Lorentz Force as she fires arcade coins as projectiles. Unlike Magic side, Espers like Misaka have to be smart and master their power, usually through knowledge of quantum physics (like someone who has Teleportation as their power, has to mentally calculate everything to position themselves accordingly, especially if others are to be teleported with her.) There are still conflicts between people in the same faction, like Misaka and the rank below her fought a few times (Meltdowner’s user uses particles to fire lasers) and Misaka dodges/defeats her consistently.
@natanielflores8141
Жыл бұрын
Magicians are smart too, they have too know real life history, mithology and religion to make spells and figure out their enemies magic.
@Rarazan
Жыл бұрын
just wabbajack him into oblivion
@MsICHIBI
Жыл бұрын
R.I.P Killua vs pre-Shippuden Sasuke - closest Killua matchup
@ningenslayer6306
Жыл бұрын
I was really hoping they’d do that one man. After the complete screw job that was Sasuke Vs. Hiei, Sasuke really deserves a second chance.
@KEEPTALKIN8215
Жыл бұрын
Oh please killua vs pre shippuden sasuke. Sasuke decimates the closest killua matchup is zenitzu from demon slayer. All of killua's other opponents one shot him. Like Black star even pre fire force scaling one shot. Akame one shots too.
@ningenslayer6306
Жыл бұрын
@@KEEPTALKIN8215 Sasuke definitely wins, but I wouldn’t call it a massive stomp (especially when compared to most Death Battle episodes). There are a lot of people who think Killua wins too, so it’d be good to prove them wrong and get some major salt. Zenitsu is closer to Killua’s level, but also a poor choice to use given we already saw Tanjiro last season, who can do a lot more. Also, he has less in common with Killua than Sasuke, and is is just annoying in general.
@KEEPTALKIN8215
Жыл бұрын
@@ningenslayer6306 well sasuke in original naruto can be argued to have light speed reaction time and some believe that naruto and sasuke at the start of shippuden are actually weaker than end of original series. So take that bit of knowledge.
@ningenslayer6306
Жыл бұрын
@@KEEPTALKIN8215 That shit is giga-wank man.
@brandonbeverly3607
9 ай бұрын
To be honest the only thing the Chosen Undead has in his favor is he can come back whereas the Dragonborn can only die once
@cthulhurage4580
Жыл бұрын
So like i hate to be that guy, but if the choosen undead lights the fire it isnt just a tornado of fire, its essentially a second big bang that resets the land to begin again Dovakiin shouting out the fire is giving him god-tier above ALL of the souls series. Personally i think its an even match without the choosen undead's ability to keep getting up. Also the lore and explination of these things are pieced together through the efforts of many people I'd suggest Vaati the creator of prepare to cry he compiles the lore incredibly well.
@nukedpyro
7 ай бұрын
My take on this fight was it wasnt fair at all from the get go. The dragonborn in lore is basically the most powerful thing in the lore, just being below the godhead and the 2 primordial forces. Alduin was gonna eat EVERYTHING all the gods, daedric princes and every realm inside the kalpa, which included multiple levels of infinity, and you beat his ass in a realm where he was at his peak and could cover that INFINITE realm in his mist in seconds. Chosen undead stood no chance
@GermanKinsmen
Жыл бұрын
"It's just semantics stuff" no, it's not semantics. The Chosen Undead is not a reanimated corpse, they're just naturally immortal. Dragons are naturally immortal and even can be revived back into their dead bodies in Skyrim, and yet anti-undead measures don't work on them.
@jordanhunter3375
Жыл бұрын
ITS RANDY THE TANK DRAGON! 17:10
@blazingblue_3039
Жыл бұрын
5:11 "I don't know what's going on storywise" Lmao I'm pretty sure no one really does
@Ris_Grestar
Жыл бұрын
Thank goodness haha
@genesis4322
Жыл бұрын
I went in to the original video thinking that the Chosen Undead would win just because they could always resurrect and come back. The explanation they gave to me makes sense. The Dragonborn should win.
@chefbreccia2642
Жыл бұрын
Even if you removed all the lore and relied solely on game stats, I'm not sure it would have changed anything. Weapons in Skyrim scale better than weapons in Dark Souls, Skyrim enchantments can get both crazy good and just crazy, and the Dragonborn can carry literally hundreds of FULL heal/mana potions -- something the Chosen Undead, by the game's very nature, is never allowed to do. And we haven't even discussed poisons, Marked for Death, or stealth. Also, the Chosen Undead dies and comes back -- wouldn't the Dragonborn win almost immediately, then the CU come back and they'd shake hands and compare notes? "You've killed a city-sized dragon? So have I! Let's talk about them over one hundred fifty cheeses."
@dragonblade-go6pe
Жыл бұрын
He just never gets it wrong
@weskintime4177
Жыл бұрын
Shouts in Skyrim ARE spells, they are a unique type of magic called Tonal Magic. Also Vow of Silence wouldn’t work regardless because the natures of the shouts manipulate universal concepts and truths when spoken, which is far above anything Vow of Silence is seen to effect.
@frostyguy1989
Жыл бұрын
I always thought "Tonal magic" was sort of a misnomer. The Thu'um seems more related to the real world fields of cymatics and harmonics, which is the way sound interacts with the world.
@Jimmy-iy9pl
Жыл бұрын
I feel like that kind of misses the point of Silence and other similar nullifying abilities. Power shouldn't have anything to do with their range. Think about it like this: say you have a fire hydrant that is pumping an infinite amount of water, and the only way of stopping it is by turning it off. Does the amount of water have anything to do with someone's ability to just disconnect a hose or turn a wheel? Another example is Eraserhead from MHA. His quirk works on everyone who has a quirk, regardless of how powerful they are. Power is just irrelevant. All Might and All for One would be just as susceptible to being erased as any other quirk user.
@Ris_Grestar
Жыл бұрын
The Aizawa argument, though, does kind of bring us to the original question of whether Silence would work considering Aizawa can't stop every kind of Quirk (i.e., mutations). Incredibly powerful and versatile, but it does have its limits, so it's reasonable that Shouts could fall into that same sort of thing. Not saying they do--I'm cool to accept them as magic or not--but I could see it.
@Jgamer-jk1bp
Жыл бұрын
@@Ris_Grestar Erasure not working on Mutations is an inherent weakness due to the way quirks fundamentally work, in theory, Erasure can disable any quirk regardless of how strong it is. From One For All to Minor Attraction, all is disabled. Vow Of Silence could be argued to be similar as it simply disables magic within a radius, in the games it hasn't failed against any particular spell. So why should the shout be the exemption, sure the shouts outscale everything in Dark Souls but cancellation abilities don't tend to care how powerful it is. In theory, even Asta could get rid of shout since his Anti-Magic literally cuts the cause and effect from magic.
@Ris_Grestar
Жыл бұрын
@@Jgamer-jk1bp Well, mutations are a specific kind of Quirk. If Shouts are, indeed, magic, then they're a particular kind of magic.
@JayJayM57
Жыл бұрын
this one I disagree, the premise and victory conditions are correct. the chosen undead has to be killed till it can`t revive anymore but death battle has heavily underestimated the masochistic nature of those games and confused power for invulnerability. the dark soul is a game series where players would fight a boss nonstop for 3 hours regardless of how many times they die. On the other hand, Skyrim is a game where regardless of what class you build or how you want to play you will ALWAYS end as a stealth archer because you are vulnerable and need to lower your enemy's numbers. against a relentless undead soldier, you will run out of potion, your mana will not keep up and you will die.
@shadowofdimentio4618
Жыл бұрын
I'm unsure what the next time's connection is besides lighting powers that are somewhat comparable in scale
@N_o196
Жыл бұрын
For the arrow point, while there a difference between attack speed (the arrow) and combat speed (the dragonborn), in this case theres no difference as the dragonborn can scale. Characters like Alduin can react to and dodge dragonborn's 250x ftl/infinite speed arrows, and since the dragonborn can hit those characters who can dodge his arrows, he should be able to fight at those speeds. As for the character stiffness, to be completely honest i think this is a fault of the models. These characters come from clunky 360 games. Its unfortunate, but it is what it is imo
@mute9159
Жыл бұрын
Are you playing the remastered or the original dark souls? Because I finished dark souls remastered on switch a couple months back and the servers were still up and populated Nevermind just didn't get see the end
@Ris_Grestar
Жыл бұрын
Oh, you can still do multiplayer in Remastered?
@mute9159
Жыл бұрын
@@Ris_Grestar I believe so, I found a bunch of randos to help me in boss fights and some people who would randomly invade me
@theMifyoo
Жыл бұрын
Here is a thing, I dislike about this battle is they are scaling the dragonborn to alduin but to beat Alduin you have to use Dragonrend which inflicts mortality upon dragons. It has no effect on non-dragons. So scaling him to Alduin feels like scaling an engineer to a nuclear bomb just because the engineer used an emp to prevent the bomb from going off.
@theMifyoo
Жыл бұрын
It is kind of like scaling a random thug to superman because that thug can pull out kryptonite.
@Ris_Grestar
Жыл бұрын
Well it makes dragons mortal and therefore killable, but it doesn't decrease the power of the dragon, does it? Like surviving the dragon's attacks would still mean just as much for their durability, wouldn't it?
@theMifyoo
Жыл бұрын
@@Ris_Grestar At least based on what the wiki says it does weaken alduin. in addition to making him mortal. The words for it mean Mortal, Finite and Temporary. So perhaps the word Finite reduces his infinite power into a finite amount. I would say it is still kind of sketch but that is just me.
@PhoenixFalcarius2024
Жыл бұрын
Surprised you never comment on the soundtrack of these fights. I love Fireborn by Brandon Yates as truly captures the spirit of Chosen Undead and Dragonborn as legendary gaming heroes.
@Ris_Grestar
Жыл бұрын
The soundtracks usually don't stand out to me, honestly. I think a soundtrack could make or break something, but for whatever reason (I like to think it's my brain's way of becoming immersed) I just don't often notice the music. Like I think I'm more likely to notice it if it's bad and therefore stands out more lol
@fend-dres101afs8
Жыл бұрын
The reason the called it Skyrim vs Dark Souls ia cause people are more likely to remember the characters by thier franchise rather than their names and hence benefit their algorithm ato get mwore views. However I agree that the order is kind of dumb, like if they want to vall the episode by its franchise thats fine, they already did something like that with Pokemon vs Digimon, but why switch the order of the title.
@ratchetthegalactichero5065
2 ай бұрын
Will you ever let’s play Skyrim?
@Ris_Grestar
3 күн бұрын
haha No one needs to see another stealth archer
@ratchetthegalactichero5065
3 күн бұрын
@@Ris_Grestar Oh my gosh XD
@demonic_myst4503
Жыл бұрын
The mag8c realms and dimentions 8n sky is true in elderscrolls when the gods made the world they found that the process may kill them so some retreated and broke holes 8n reality magnus created the sun with his exit he is the god of magic so his realm is a plain of pure energy thats the sun
@banrajanand7983
Жыл бұрын
You should watch the sun wukong vs hercules one!
@Ris_Grestar
Жыл бұрын
I did! You should watch my reaction to it.
@banrajanand7983
Жыл бұрын
@@Ris_Grestar I tried looking on your channel for it but I couldn't find it
@Ris_Grestar
Жыл бұрын
@@banrajanand7983 It's in my Death Battle playlist^^
@banrajanand7983
Жыл бұрын
@@Ris_Grestar Thank you, I found it!
@inkachuthegoat
Жыл бұрын
30:45 was censored
@Ris_Grestar
Жыл бұрын
I didn't want to name the company the ad was for in retrospect.
@wiiagent
Жыл бұрын
good reaction video
@erenalmak
Жыл бұрын
Has a sponsorship in his video, complaints about Ads in a video 😂
@Ris_Grestar
Жыл бұрын
My review wasn't in the middle of all the action, it only happened once, it was at least somewhat relevant, and I make less than $100/mo from my videos. Don't make me sadder.
@lozofspielereien8038
Жыл бұрын
An announced sponsorship is something different to a random ad. Keep in mind the two criticisms Ris has brought up: 1. The ads popped up at not the best places, even cutting into sentences. On the other hand: Ris's sponsorship is placed at the beginning, not just announced, but offering the option to easily skip it via time stamps. 2. Ris uses "First membership", a paid service that allowed him to download the video. Services that are "free to engage" should drop their ads if the customer actually decides to pay for it. 2.5. Even if RoosterTeeth sees it as fair to still put ads into this video, exclusivably downloadable for members, it only makes it worse that they didn't put the effort in to put them at less disrupting spots. Not sure if you were serious or just jealous, but maybe you'll think about these reasons a little bit more instead of trying to make fun of someone, who seems to put way much more effort into his reaction videos compared to most others, who use clickbaity titles and throw funny faces onto the thumbnail.
@MichaelTheNinthOne
Жыл бұрын
I think the reason they say the game first and then the character is because there are multiple Dark Souls games where the Chosen Undead is only in Dark Souls 1. Skyrim is the 5th game of the Elder Scrolls games and the Dragonborn is only in Skyrim.
@elysian179
Жыл бұрын
Thank you! Yes shouts are not magic, they arent spells so unless the chosen undead can ONLY silence verbal magic, that wouldnt work with a shout because it's not magic, now if all it does is silence then yeah it would work cause the dragonborn needs to speak in order to do a shout, but yeah also they said they would put their max stats and the dragonborn has a lot of stuff, like the power to slow down the opponent when they are attacking and he blocks, he slows them down whenever he blocks and they didnt add that, if this was an actual fight with actual all stats the dragonborn would win without any difficulty unlike this fight because in the lore he doesnt have cooldown in his shouts he could just spam them continously 😂
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