I had many ancestors that fought in the American Revolution, what we refer to as the patriots. I had a 5th ggf, Samuel Ellis, I'll give him a shout out. He was on duty one day when George Washington rode up beside him on his horse. Washington pulled out his spyglass and was observing the British. He then handed it to my 5th ggf and told him to take a look after which a long conversation took place. My mother's side of the family came to North America early, I'm a direct descendant of some Mayflower passengers. My father's side came in the late 1800's. I had ancestors in the British military during the American Revolution from my father's side of the family. I joke to myself that my ancestors were shooting at each other, good thing they didn't all kill each other otherwise I may not have existed. Enjoyed your video.
@TheWoodlandEscape
3 ай бұрын
I’m envious that you know so much of your family history. Thanks for sharing. I’d love to interview you someday.
@michaelschaber1948
3 ай бұрын
You are a great man history is so important
@TheWoodlandEscape
3 ай бұрын
You flatter me, sir and I thank you.
@aggieduke1
3 ай бұрын
Another great one Peter and Cathy. Thanks for sharing
@TheWoodlandEscape
3 ай бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it
@woodmanhugh
2 ай бұрын
Hi Peter, I have enjoyed your content and your wee bit of history shorts. What you have done and how you have lived is admirable. Thank you. Now , I respectfully disagree with your take on the revolutionary war . Washingtons army of a rag tag group of farmers , merchants, and every other walk of life, fighting the greatest standing army and winning was quite an accomplishment. That victory came with so much sacrifice, toil and commitment. I will personally never forget the hardship that those patriots went through, especially for those who gave the ultimate sacrifice . The war was fought for freedom , not to take over another country and make them subservient to us. You can’t say that about Britain,where the sun never set on its empire. I wouldn’t think of questioning your allegiance to the country of your ancestors and where you obviously thrive , and enjoy your way of life. All of God’s people deserve, peace, security, freedom and inalienable rights. Keep up your home spun content, it’s very educational. Best regards, Hugh
@TheWoodlandEscape
2 ай бұрын
Interesting comments, Hugh. Not trying to paint either side badly, simply relating history. The next episode is about the very dedicated patriots you refer to . I thank you for your interest sir.
@blueskymut
3 ай бұрын
Thank you so much for this wonderful historic presentation! My ancestors were Loyalists, they were chased out by the Cherry Valley Massacre and wound up in PEI. My great grandfather emigrated to America in 1900. Many Haydens still live at PEI today, I hope to visit someday. God Bless!
@TheWoodlandEscape
3 ай бұрын
You are lucky to have been born. That was indeed a very nasty massacre. I thank you for sharing your families story.
@blueskymut
2 ай бұрын
@@TheWoodlandEscape Wow, I never thought of it that way. Interesting to ponder.
@deanjernstrom3760
3 ай бұрын
What better way to learn more from Peter. Erin is wonderful to listen to about her family history. So I sit on my front porch during a small rain shower watching your channel. Enjoy your weekend sir,and thank you again.
@TheWoodlandEscape
3 ай бұрын
You as well. Nothing beats a covered veranda in the rain … the word peaceful comes to mind!
@eudaemxnia2481
2 ай бұрын
I had never even heard of the United Empire Loyalists before this video. What a fascinating story.
@TheWoodlandEscape
2 ай бұрын
Glad you enjoyed and at the same time learned something new. We appreciate your interest.
@wadeschwartz6281
3 ай бұрын
Wow ! The last bit in the boat was mesmerizing ,,felt you were right there . What an episode at so many levels . The 1/3 vs 1/3 vs 1/3 concept so prevalent and proven as human response to crisis. The stories so epic . Even more amazing is the thought of those combatants now passed on ,if believers would be face to face as brothers under the banner of Jesus ‘s love . We live in a cruel world ,,but God will one day restore all things ,,May we seek His peace in our little corners of the world now . Thank you Peter !
@TheWoodlandEscape
3 ай бұрын
Glad you enjoyed, Wade and thanks your kind words.
@chadandkimlessonsoldandnew3097
3 ай бұрын
Excellent video. Lot of sad truths for sure. Being descendant of southern patriots I am aware that had Cornwalis taken a different approach in the south we likely would have been on the other side or at best neutral. The sad truth of loyalist displacement as a Native Louisianian It reminds me of my French ancestors forced removal from Acadiana. I suppose at the end of the day people are people. Good people, bad people, all caught up in world issues. I have always had a very healthy respect for British virtue and English common law. I believe the English virtues are very evident in the way Canada treats it's natives, both People and Wilderness. Very good stewards indeed. Thanks for another great video.
@TheWoodlandEscape
3 ай бұрын
I thank you for your well thought out comments. There were many atrocities done on both sides and as you point out, not a lot has changed . As to natives, I’m afraid we treated them pretty bad and in my opinion, continue to do so. Unlike Americans, we didn’t take their land with the gun, but rather, deceit.
@dfraser7402
3 ай бұрын
Great video! Wonderful presentation of the United Empire Loyalist history and role in settling what was to become Upper Canada. Beautiful job linking the broad history to the personal stories of the loyalists. What incredibly resilient people they must have been. High school history classes would benefit so much from seeing this
@TheWoodlandEscape
3 ай бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it and I must reiterate how impressed I am with your entire group. What ever you’re doing, you’re doing it well. Fencing portion to be released next Friday.
@patriciavanlouwe6636
3 ай бұрын
Fascinating history lesson Peter.
@TheWoodlandEscape
3 ай бұрын
Thank you sister, Pat.
@ianandresen2326
3 ай бұрын
That was awesome! You had me with the boats! Fascinating history!
@TheWoodlandEscape
3 ай бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it, Ian … the sail was lovely indeed!
@paulwest2575
3 ай бұрын
I had to Google to find out this What does United Empire Loyalists mean? United Empire Loyalists' Association of Canada | The Canadian ... Who Were the Loyalists? United Empire Loyalists were American colonists who supported the British cause and Crown during the American Revolution (1775-83). They included approximately 19,000 who served in provincial militia units, such as the King's Royal Regiment of New York and Butler's Rangers.
@beverlymichael5830
3 ай бұрын
I wish I Had heard history like this when in school. I would have paid more attention. Seemed like it was more important to know dates than the story behind the dates. Then as I got older I began to want to know More. Love how you tell history. I only know information on my family back to turn early 1900’s. But I do have photos of civil War photos of family. But no stories behind them. Thank you for keeping history alive and interesting.
@TheWoodlandEscape
3 ай бұрын
You’re certainly not alone in not knowing our families stories and it is a pity, as they all have fascinating stories that sadly are lost. I do believe that history s being taught better these days.
@behindthespotlight7983
3 ай бұрын
This is a well thought out presentation. The attention to living history detail is outstanding. A sincere but serious suggestion: 480p is very low resolution for 95% of devices in use today. So the depth of field in this video blurs, tiles and distracts the eye from an otherwise excellent effort. Particularly with a historical walk n talk you want to captivate your audience and hold them. Nonetheless a thumbs up and I’ll watch part 2.
@TheWoodlandEscape
3 ай бұрын
That’s interesting, because we upload to KZitem in HD. We appreciate the feedback. The camera we use records at 4K, so not sure why you received such poor quality.
@outdoorlife5396
3 ай бұрын
That makes sense. In VA, the Jamestown settlement, almost starved to death, they had to many gentlemen and people who good at metal work, like gold and silver. Which at the time was thought to be the cash. The cash turned out to be tobacco.
@TheWoodlandEscape
3 ай бұрын
Indeed it was king … for a good period of time the entire economy of the Colonies was based on tobacco.
@LauraAndDonsConcentricCircles
3 ай бұрын
Good day, Peter! WOW, this is some profound historical information you are sharing in this video today. More, please, as you can do so! I have paternal English and French ancestry that go back to what you speak of. They were in Quebec and Newfoundland and then, for some reason unknown to me, moved to farmlands and orchards on the south shore of Lake Erie in Ottawa County. Deep down inside, I’ve always wondered why I’ve had mixed feelings and thoughts about the revolution. So, now it’s time for me to dust off my family ancestry records to have a fresh look and perhaps be rewarded for a deeper dive into them. Thank you, Peter, for your straight talk; and now I feel even more honored that you and Kathy joined us at table in Sainte Genevieve to have that enjoyable chat. Good day to you, Sir!
@TheWoodlandEscape
3 ай бұрын
The honor was all ours. We quite enjoyed our brief conversation. Your family history sounds fascinating, I’d be taking a deep dive into it as well.
@victortuten4399
3 ай бұрын
Great video sir!
@TheWoodlandEscape
3 ай бұрын
Thank you for your continued interest.
@stephankramb204
3 ай бұрын
Thanks! Very interesting!
@TheWoodlandEscape
3 ай бұрын
Glad you liked it!
@elizabeththequeen943
3 ай бұрын
My g-g-great grandmother was born in St. Armand, Quebec, because her family had to flee during the war. They eventually moved back to the new United States in the 1790s.
@TheWoodlandEscape
3 ай бұрын
Interesting. There was a lot of movement, in both directions after the dust settled. I’m glad you are preserving this family history.
@brokentoe570
3 ай бұрын
Thank you sir. The vedio was great. What they do not teach us in the schools is a shame. I guess as it is said , history is written by the Victor's. I do protry a Butler's ranger here and the looks and remarks are not all good. Being in the Wyoming Valley of n.e. PA. But the truth has to be told as well.
@TheWoodlandEscape
3 ай бұрын
Appreciate your kind words. Busters is a great group to belong to with a fascinating history.
@bobsmalser8304
3 ай бұрын
Nice Pennsylvania rifle.
@TheWoodlandEscape
3 ай бұрын
Thank you, sir.
@reedvanness3239
3 ай бұрын
This is very interesting. It's an aspect of history that I, as an American, wasn't aware of. I have an ancestor that was killed by a Tory (what we call a Loyalist) in New York State.
@TheWoodlandEscape
3 ай бұрын
Interchangeable names up here as well. Like all wars though, atrocities were done by both sides.
@deniscaron1306
3 ай бұрын
How many takes to get lower vs upper Canada the right way? LOL, kind o' saw a small smile on your face. Thanks as always to make us discover beautifull places like this and put it in context.
@TheWoodlandEscape
3 ай бұрын
Good question! Cathy said that you’d pick up on my mistake, lol.
@deniscaron1306
3 ай бұрын
@@TheWoodlandEscape Just fun memories of my stay at the wood land escape, or should we call it now Fort Whynot - Kelly Station
@randybrown140
3 ай бұрын
And after the war, we still traded with the British Empire. Maybe a separation peacefully could have happened 🤔
@TheWoodlandEscape
3 ай бұрын
It does start out by the colonists simply wanting to be treated fairly with no intent as to separation. England stood its ground and the 8 year conflict begins.
@sheilam4964
3 ай бұрын
Where do you find the records of the American Loyalist refugees in the camps in Canada?
@TheWoodlandEscape
3 ай бұрын
The Government of Canada Archives. There are also groups of United Empire Loyalists that have maintained records. Thanks for watching and for your interest.
@sheilam4964
3 ай бұрын
@@TheWoodlandEscape - yes. I am familiar with the Library of Canada Archives. Do you know the name of the records they are might be found in? I have Irish ancestors that show up in Canada from 1789-1825 but no record of them anywhere prior to the info on the 1851 Census. Land Grants also do not have any record of them.
@TheWoodlandEscape
3 ай бұрын
@@sheilam4964 I’m afraid I have the same issue trying to trace my ancestors. All four grandparents emigrated from Ireland in the 1800. I’ve a few copies of documents , but my story ends abruptly a short 3 generations ago.
@sheilam4964
3 ай бұрын
@@TheWoodlandEscape - my problem is ggg born in Ireland but died in Canada with kids born in Canada before 1818. No idea of how they came to Canada (Ont & Que), one gg was born in NY State. Thanks for what you could provide.
@TheWoodlandEscape
3 ай бұрын
@@sheilam4964 wish I could have been more help.
@ChrisPond-d9k
3 ай бұрын
Love the history.here is a bit of mine the anstor I portray was a Yankee as I am he fought in the 7 year's war entered the fur trade after. Spent The rev. War in Alberta on lake Athabasca making his fortune.he is reviled in the US as a loyalest but he made his fortune.he was one of the first 16 share holders of the North West company.but was disliked by the other holders because he was a Yankee.Went black to ct.was employed by the government who called him traitor in a military role spoke to eminent professor published his maps of Alberta and adjacent pronounces. All form a so-called loyalist
@TheWoodlandEscape
3 ай бұрын
Great family history there and I thank you for sharing. People sure do like to label people!
@lae52
3 ай бұрын
Another fascinating history lesson. We know nothing of Canadian History, I'd even wager that Americans are possibly more cognizant of Mexican history. As a history geek having lived in multiple European countries as a kid, I am saddened by the lack of any history emphasis in US teaching. Please keep up the history in the videos. I never fail to learn something with each video.
@TheWoodlandEscape
3 ай бұрын
I appreciate your kind compliment. It is funny how we become so insular in our countries. Histories … there is a big world out there.
@jamesfletcher279
3 ай бұрын
Very educational brilliant history just one small thing the Union Jack you are flying is not correct
@TheWoodlandEscape
3 ай бұрын
Thank you so much. The flag we fly over our fort is the Kings Colours which is correct for the mid 1700. The actual Union Jack didn’t come into existence until Ireland joined the United Kingdom, I believe in 1808 or there abouts.
@thatsthewayitgoes9
3 ай бұрын
Clarification, the loyalist refugee camps’ were in the United States or in Canada? I highly doubt there were ‘refugee camps’ in the colonies revolting.
@TheWoodlandEscape
3 ай бұрын
There were indeed refuge camps in British held areas like New York City and Boston.
@warwickshireoutdoors
3 ай бұрын
Loving the channel. Really interesting. 🏕
@TheWoodlandEscape
3 ай бұрын
Glad you enjoy it!
@milliebanks7209
3 ай бұрын
I find it interesting that she has no shoes on! Is this the norm?
@TheWoodlandEscape
3 ай бұрын
Quite normal indeed on the frontier when weather permitted, shoes were hard to come by and expensive, moccasins were made, but wore out quickly.
@georgehartler3423
3 ай бұрын
At the time extremely brutal comma nothing compared to what goes on over the centuries and these days still
@kurtvanderweg9147
3 ай бұрын
Are you what Americans would call a leftist?
@TheWoodlandEscape
3 ай бұрын
I prefer to think of myself as simply that, myself, with no labels attached.
@isaiahrarrick5456
3 ай бұрын
I should write a book too. About my families history . Hessian soldiers, German Palatines ancestors. One of my ancestors fought in both the Revolutionary War and the War of 1812. I also have an ancestor who was in with the unit as Joseph Plumb Martin.
@TheWoodlandEscape
3 ай бұрын
Indeed you should sir,, especially if you’ve got documented family history.
@gregorybrennan8539
3 ай бұрын
If their could be any bridges of fraternity still left at the time of separation, it would be the retainment of ENGLISH COMON LAW. The greatest gift England gave to the world among many. God bless America, God save the king. Hearts of Oak.
@TheWoodlandEscape
3 ай бұрын
Hear, hear!
@scottmcfarland2149
3 ай бұрын
Extremely interesting. Love learning history that is glazed over or omitted all together. Thank you you all. 🐾🙏🏻✌🏻
@TheWoodlandEscape
3 ай бұрын
Our pleasure!
@paulwest2575
3 ай бұрын
# I am halfway through this video and I wish you would tell me what was a united Empire Loyalist.? Whose side were they for? Who were they fleeing.? You are taking it for granted that we already know. I know many Christians came to North America because they were Protestants persecuted by the Catholics..Your video starts off by telling us where these different Loyalist made their homes but you have failed to really tell us why? Who were they fleeing?Were they Loyalist because they were Loyal to the King? Or were they Loyalists because they were loyal to upper and Lower Canada???
@TheWoodlandEscape
3 ай бұрын
I take it for granted that in Canada it is simply common knowledge. I don’t believe much Canadian history is thought south of the border
@paulwest2575
3 ай бұрын
You failed to tell us what was happening.please learn from your mistake and add the answer in your next video.
@earlshaner4441
3 ай бұрын
Good afternoon from Syracuse NY United States of America my friend and thank you for sharing the facts and truth brother
@TheWoodlandEscape
3 ай бұрын
Thanks for listening
@earlshaner4441
3 ай бұрын
You are welcome my friends
@anulfadventures
3 ай бұрын
This was actually the "First" American civil war if you think of it. It was violent and cruel, families torn apart like all civil wars.
@TheWoodlandEscape
3 ай бұрын
It certainly was the first one on this side of the Atlantic.
@behindthespotlight7983
3 ай бұрын
🇺🇸(1776) “We the people have formed a more perfect union” 🇺🇸(2024) “Hold my beer”
@TheWoodlandEscape
3 ай бұрын
Too funny.
@frodrickfronkensteen9241
2 ай бұрын
@@TheWoodlandEscape "funny" was likely the position the loyalists ascribed to... initially. Then, one day... they rowed up to a distant and unfamiliar shore and hiked into the wilderness to bury one of their infants. Regarding your historical work, I appreciate the insight. I've added it to my library.
@TheWoodlandEscape
2 ай бұрын
@@frodrickfronkensteen9241 I thank you, sir.
@MichaelLeBlanc-p4f
2 ай бұрын
When we were young lads . . . " Now and then we had a hope that if we lived and were good, God would permit us to be pirates. " - 'Mark Twain' The hopeful sentiment also applies to older folks who are able to enjoy their 2nd Childhood . . .😮
@TheWoodlandEscape
2 ай бұрын
Great quote. As to second childhood, well, I’m still in my first, lol.
@donbowlby7498
3 ай бұрын
My family were loyalists,New Jersey farmers that fled to Nova Scotia then moved back to Ohio in the 1880s.
@TheWoodlandEscape
3 ай бұрын
Wow, four generations later, interesting to know the motivation after such a long time.
@donbowlby7498
3 ай бұрын
@@TheWoodlandEscape It was all about a woman . Great grandmother was an Irish immigrant, who didn’t want to be Canadian.
@TheWoodlandEscape
3 ай бұрын
Ah, a women is it now, lol.
@kathywalker6915
3 ай бұрын
I've added Erin' book to my Amazon wishlist, thanks.
@TheWoodlandEscape
3 ай бұрын
Hope you enjoy it! I just ordered a copy yesterday.
@Dan_TheMedievalGuild
3 ай бұрын
The first part of the video proves that mankind can be some of the most savage creatures on the planet. The sad part is I don't know if we, as a people, have evolved or devolved.
@TheWoodlandEscape
3 ай бұрын
You’re spot on, nothing seems to change as we continue to have history repeat itself. Thank for watching.
@DarrelSommer-jd9ny
3 ай бұрын
It's funny that I live in America and I learn more about the north American continent from a Canadian rather than an American
@TheWoodlandEscape
3 ай бұрын
Well sir, I’ll take that as a compliment. Thanks for watching.
@MichaelLeBlanc-p4f
3 ай бұрын
Just tumbled onto your channel. Life is hard and life can be cruel. Never met you and likely never will because I'm an old, old dog. Served in the KRRNY Province for 35 fantastic years after 1986. Did heavy duty in America and England. Health finally ruined by time, grog and even interesting 'camp following women' who proved make-up can't compete with presonality. Finally left the hobby with an empty purse. Was discharged 'voluntarly' without a pension. Would do it all again if I could and perhaps, if fate was kind, get to hang out with you in a second life. So hard to find kindred spirits in 'Boomerkind' today.
@TheWoodlandEscape
3 ай бұрын
You do indeed sound like a kindred spirit, sir. It would be grand if our paths could cross someday. You sound like a person I’d love to share a fire with.
@MichaelLeBlanc-p4f
3 ай бұрын
@@TheWoodlandEscape Flattered by your quick reply. Know we'd smoke some happy pipes together over cups of grog. Like you, I've done a very deep dive into the past via superb archives and like most all the ghosts met along the way regardless of which side of the fence they sat on . . . dispite errant politics.
@MichaelLeBlanc-p4f
2 ай бұрын
An excellent presentation of some of the Loyalist experience. 'Cass' is a lady I may well have passed at a re-enactment somewhere by never met. My own (Scots-Dutch) Loyalist family (Man/Mann) ended up in the New Carlisle area on the bay de Chaleur. Recovered much about them and their neighbours. One of sons of my direct 'Abraham' Loyalist Issac Man Sr ancestor, from 'Still Water', NY Province, had a remarkable escape experience after Still Water 'committee persecution' of the entire family(Isaac Man had been local militia Col, and his 4 young sons served with him). After a romantic farewell love story on his way, he was and all thier party was captured by a revolting patrol on Lake Champlaine, then rescued that evening, by a Loyalist patrol that had witnessed, their capture. (Wish I could recall the name of the leader of that patrol. Had an exceptional record of brave daring deeds to his credit). The son joined a Loyalist Reg't, made a guide for the Saratoga campaign, csptured afterwards in Still Water area distributing 'pamphlets', sentenced to death but exchanged for a revolting Lt the day before his execution date. Posted to the frontier S of Montreal he, he was involved in incursions into revolting enemy territory. Have a patrol report of his (thanks to free to download, 'Haldimand Papers website.) Led a small patrol party (7/ 8 men) south on a mission. Woke up the next morning to 3 of his men, pointing muskets at all the rest of the patrol, whose arms had already been secured. Told him they were fed-up with their post commander so were headed south. Insisted they were not traitors and asked him to report the reason why they deserted (hense the report). Ended up with the three water craft that took the orininal Loyalist settlers down to Gaspe and no doubt met & knew the Cass family. Appointed the very first 'Sheriff of Gaspe', given a sloop and chased criminals, smugglers and revolting poaching fishermen throughout that scenic gorgeous bay. Married, had a single daughter who broke his heart when she died ca age 20 years. The fickled finger of fate played with him all his good life.
@TheWoodlandEscape
2 ай бұрын
I can’t thank you enough for sharing that fascinating story. Heck, you had me on the edge of my chair reading it. Perhaps you should write a historical novel based on this amazing tale!
@MichaelLeBlanc-p4f
2 ай бұрын
@@TheWoodlandEscape Love history so much it overwhelmed me. Specialized in WWII Escape & Evasion world. Very little about that subject I don't know. Family history ran parallel with it. Always shared all with others interested. Guess its a novel form of noveling for someone hoplessly lost in the chase after old ghosts . . .
@thatsthewayitgoes9
3 ай бұрын
Very interesting history However, I think a slightly Dominion viewpoint. That’s ok. We need to consider many versions of history. As my mother’s side ancestors were loyalists doesn’t magically give me more knowledge of the topic here, I do study that period from as many versions as possible. Have been, on and off since the 1960’s. I will say, from a totally 1000’ view, the revolutionary side may not have been quite as evil as Canadian historians portray. Your story almost sounds like you’re putting the blame for the congestion, poverty & poor health of New York on the colonial revolutionaries. I can assure you, the colonial revolutionaries were extremely bad off during the war also. I can also confirm, the British were especially brutal in prosecuting the war. Just compare the treatment of prisoners by the British ( almost all died) vs the prisoners (?) in colonial revolutionaries hands. The British murdered colonial civilians, ransacked private property and lied to slaves about ‘freeing them’. Could go on, of course. It’s interesting what you explained about the “Committees”. It sounds like they were highly organized well funded and had over reaching power to impose measures on loyalists. I’ll have to do more study on that. But from what I’ve learned the “committees” were extremely basic, il funded and barely hanging on to principles of the yet new Republic. Probably highly unlikely a “committee” read every piece of communication throughout the disjointed colonies and “targeted” loyalists to impose harsh treatment on them. Seriously, that gave me a polite laugh. Possibly very local action was taken against people who frustrated the cause of the revolutionaries; but I highly doubt there was the communication or resources in a new forming nation that had their soldiers eating old shoe leather to survive. Most of the reports of that time showed during the war and after the war there was not retaliation against loyalists unless they brought it on themselves. I gather the loyalist moved to a Dominion of Britain due to their loyalty rather than due to persecution by the new nation. I really enjoy your history lessons. Thank you!
@TheWoodlandEscape
3 ай бұрын
You bring up many valid points and you’re spot on about the atrocities done by both sides. It was war after all. This episode covers the situation of the Loyalists, perhaps I should do one titled “ What was Life Like for the Patriots during the American Revolution”. You’re also correct regarding the various Committees/Commissions formed as a result of the Continental Congress enacting laws. Was every single document read, most likely not, but my research would indicate an awful lot were. I sincerely appreciate your well worded feedback.
@MichaelLeBlanc-p4f
2 ай бұрын
When we were young lads . . . "Now and then we had a hope that if we lived and were good, God would permit us to be pirates. " 'Mark Twain'
@Gidaddy55
3 ай бұрын
A well known example of loyalist/patriot division is that of Benjamin Franklin and his son William. Thank you for an excellent lesson lest we forget
@TheWoodlandEscape
3 ай бұрын
Indeed, I should have tried to bring the story of families torn apart by the conflict that arguably could be called the first American civil war.
@Shaden0040
3 ай бұрын
another of my ancestors would actually hear before the pink pilgrims ever landed at Plymouth But he wasn't living here in a permanent selling settlement in 1590 something I think there's like 1591 a group of English fishermen came over to fish off the band Grog great banks of New England and where they settled temporarily over the summer was what is now the Portsmouth Naval Yard between New Hampshire and Maine It was originally called CV Island which was named after my ancestor Who was the Minister of the group now they would come by every spring fish all summer long dry everything out salt it up all the cod barrel it up and then ship it back to England in the fall where they would then sell it off and make their profits And they did this until 16 23 at which point he stopped went home with it to his wife and there is like 5 or 6 kids grabbed the youngest of them grabbed up the youngest 4 and then came back over to Maine about five years later so it was 1628 and they came and landed in Limerick Maine And that point of family married into the other two families the the two families that intermarried from the Salem witch trials as well as the other family the furlongs all on my grandmother side of the family because they're mostly all up in Maine that's my grandmother's side of the family's main borderline New Hampshire Or is my dad's father's family he's all from New Hampshire exeter NH Nashua NH Newmarket Bloody Point NH so all that area South of Portsmouth Naval Yard And one of the local towns up there is actually named after my dad's family Rollins Ford which covers I think the goes across the the border river between New Hampshire and Maine maine or Massachusetts one of the two it was part of Massachusetts then but it's I think it's main now so it was further northwest of Seabee Island but I don't remember the name of the river offhand.
@TheWoodlandEscape
3 ай бұрын
Awesome history and I sincerely thank you for taking the time to share it.
@MichaelLeBlanc-p4f
3 ай бұрын
60,000 arrived in Canada but some estimates claim approximately 170,000 left revolting America between 1776 and 1800. The 'long forgotten' to our great shame, decided new 'America' was simply too revolting. Subsequence experiences proved they were not wrong about the 'Mob'.
@shoot2win506
27 күн бұрын
Mr. Pete makes me think ...who really wins in war.Seems everyone suffers. Thank you for a glimpse of the "other side". Be well!
@TheWoodlandEscape
27 күн бұрын
Indeed, can there ever really be a winner in war?
@laurahunter1690
3 ай бұрын
There were many Loyalists whose economic background and business knowledge was instrumental in building the Canadian economy. Especially New Brunswick.
@TheWoodlandEscape
3 ай бұрын
Indeed as well as what would become Upper Canada. We appreciate your interest.
@laurahunter1690
3 ай бұрын
@@TheWoodlandEscape you have a great channel. Thank you
@TheWoodlandEscape
3 ай бұрын
Thank you Laura for the kind words.
@krockpotbroccoli65
3 ай бұрын
On the tar and feathers thing. There were two levels of severity. If regular pine tar (liquid at room temperature washable with soap) it was used it was totally recoverable. However, if pine pitch was used, it was a death sentence since pitch is a solid and needs to be heated to near boiling in order to get it to flow.
@TheWoodlandEscape
3 ай бұрын
You raise a good point, thank you.
@danielphillips486
3 ай бұрын
Wonderful video! I have never heard this history. Much thanks to you for sharing! Also enjoyed the bit with the boat at the end.
@TheWoodlandEscape
3 ай бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it
@Mag_Aoidh
3 ай бұрын
Excellent Peter and Erin!
@TheWoodlandEscape
3 ай бұрын
Thank you for the kind words.
@donsipes
3 ай бұрын
Excellent. My 4th great grandmother Hanna Sipes and her family were labelled Loyalist and driven off their homestead in Susquehanna Territory. Her 3 sons served with Butler's Rangers. She was forced out with her young children and with not much more than the clothes on their back they somehow got to Lachine. I suspect with the help of the folks of the six nations. She spent the rest of the war at Machiche. She married Edwards Stookes there and settled near Niagara after the war. Two of her sons (Jacob and Jonas) settled near Niagara after the war and the third My third Great Grandfather Andrew settled in Matilda TWP, Dundas County. Keep up the great stories. THANK YOU.
@TheWoodlandEscape
3 ай бұрын
Thank you so much for sharing your fascinating family history. I’d love to interview you someday.
@shanek6582
2 ай бұрын
I’d love to see more of that boat! Is there a video anywhere? Thanks
@TheWoodlandEscape
2 ай бұрын
Another episode perhaps.
@aarondavenport3143
2 ай бұрын
I would really love to know mor about the boat, especially where the rigging is concerned. I've always been fascinated by small cruising sailboats of the era and how they were used on inland waterways and coastal cruising. Always love your videos
@TheWoodlandEscape
2 ай бұрын
I’m hoping to do an episode on mariners, their lives, their boats and their history next year.
@larryreese6146
3 ай бұрын
Most wars have reasons that can be talked about and which make sense. But when you get right down to it, they're mostly started over economics or religion. Greed, ignorance, and prejudice take care of the rest.
@TheWoodlandEscape
3 ай бұрын
You’ve summed it up perfectly.
@badapple65
3 ай бұрын
I love the history
@TheWoodlandEscape
3 ай бұрын
Thank you.
@SirFrederick
3 ай бұрын
Never heard about the UEL before. I have heard about the Royal Fencible Americans, Some of my Regiment (original regiment 1777) were part of that. Came from Connecticut to Canada
@TheWoodlandEscape
3 ай бұрын
They are the very refugees that made Canada.
@MichaelLeBlanc-p4f
3 ай бұрын
Good stuff ! Through no virtue of my own other than study, know I'm heir to a wonderful 'Loyalist' heritage. Proud of them all.
@TheWoodlandEscape
3 ай бұрын
Thank you and you should be proud.
@jtsterry
3 ай бұрын
❤😊😊
@ragnar8390
3 ай бұрын
Very interesting take on the drama unfolding during this time. Here's to our respective courageous ancestors who fought for what was best for their families in their own age 🇬🇧 🇨🇦 🇺🇸
@TheWoodlandEscape
3 ай бұрын
Well worded, sir … on both sides of the conflict.
@matthewbrandon931
3 ай бұрын
The loyalists had a hard time of it. As they should.
@TheWoodlandEscape
3 ай бұрын
I don’t believe anyone deserves to oppressed.
@matthewbrandon931
3 ай бұрын
@@TheWoodlandEscape the Loyalists did plenty of oppression.
@russellkeirstead-qi2jr
3 ай бұрын
My ancestors settled in New Amsterdam and fled to New Brunswick after the American Revolution. Settled in the area of Keirstead mountain
@TheWoodlandEscape
3 ай бұрын
There are many current Canadians that had their start in the American Colonies.
@jeffgrier8488
3 ай бұрын
Thanks for sharing another wonderful video and more history, we appreciate it!
@TheWoodlandEscape
3 ай бұрын
As we appreciate your support and interest. Thank you.
@Ilikeit616
3 ай бұрын
Howdy Peter Great when you have someone on that knows so much and the stories Did you notice the gun on the bow of the ship ? Just like the one you have , you are going to put in the window in your fort .
@TheWoodlandEscape
3 ай бұрын
Indeed, Erin was a fascinating guest. That gun on the ship is a lot bigger than mine. I’ll admit it, I’m a wee bit envious, lol.
@hayward434
3 ай бұрын
Very interesting as always, and I can compare the video to our own United Empire Loyalist brigade in Shelburne , Nova Scotia.
@TheWoodlandEscape
3 ай бұрын
Thank, Hayward … you folks down east got the bulk of the refugees.
@Shaden0040
3 ай бұрын
Two of my ancestors emigrated with their some of their kids to Canada to Halifax and then resettled into Limerick Maine who they married into the remnants of some of the people who were accused of witchcraft in the Salem witch trials and I'm just about related to everybody in the Salem Witcher house that was accused including two of the accusers which among the accusers the one accuser reconciled with the family of the accused and they intermarried like three of the three of the children intermarried between the two families and I'm related to one of the intermarriages I think it is the two oldest So weirder things have happened and they've all settled in Limerick Maine don't ask me why it was definitely named after Limerick Ireland and the ones of my ancestors that came from came to Halifax came from Ireland but it was before the great famine it was like 1780 so it's after the Salem witch trials But before the great famine was like 1820s or 1880s biggest 1880s anyway they came about 100 years before the famine and came to Halifax I don't know why they didn't like it in Halifax but they moved to the United States because it was a young United States maybe they just wanted to get rid of get away from the British crowd which might make sense because some of their ancestors were English the furlong family but the furlongs were an interesting case they came over to Ireland like around the time of Prince John and sided with the Irish Royals and if you're married with many many of the Klan Chieftains over an Ireland so they're mostly Irish themselves because most of their sons married Irish daughters and their daughters married Irish sons but the line that came down was mostly Irish on the on the English side the furlong side and they came to Nova Scotia Halifax To the exact and then move to Maine go figure is definitely one of the more interesting stories of my family not the most but one of the more interesting tales and that's on my father's mother's side of the family.
@TheWoodlandEscape
3 ай бұрын
An interesting tale of family history indeed. Thanks for sharing.
@patcoon3440
3 ай бұрын
Thank you for the enjoyable history lesson that gave a flip side account of the American Revolution. I’m an American with paternal Scottish heritage going back to 1743, and maternal English ancestry settling in the Virginia colony in the 1600’s, mingled with Cherokee and Creek Native Americans. Geneology research revealed a distant kinsman who was a colonial British loyalist known as Bloody Bill Cunningham of the Carolinas. He wound up moving to the West Indies after the Revolutionary War.
@TheWoodlandEscape
3 ай бұрын
Fascinating family history. Gotta wonder about your ancestor Bloody Bill, I can only imagine what he did to earn such a nickname! Thanks for sharing.
@lawrencekeller6029
3 ай бұрын
Peter this was great. The amount of history you have in brain 🧠 is unbelievable do you have a remote hard drive you down load into LOL my wife, kids and grandkids would say papaw's useless knowledge LOL you and Cathy stay safe. IIBYRDS
@TheWoodlandEscape
3 ай бұрын
Perhaps my friend, but retrieving it is getting much harder, lol.
@asharthesecond1355
3 ай бұрын
Pls do native American and how they lived
@TheWoodlandEscape
3 ай бұрын
It is certainly on my list for future episodes. We appreciate your interest.
@asharthesecond1355
3 ай бұрын
@@TheWoodlandEscape thanks 🙏
@lancehenderson7249
3 ай бұрын
My God, did that bread look delicious. Great video, Peter and Kathy. I never really knew much of this. I probably took it in school. But I found this very interesting. Keep your powder dry
@TheWoodlandEscape
3 ай бұрын
It most certainly was a fine loaf. Watch yer top knot.
@gregwells8764
3 ай бұрын
very interesting and informative. as always. thank you for sharing your knowledge.
@TheWoodlandEscape
3 ай бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it
@JeffGloverArts
3 ай бұрын
This history of what common folk endured is outstanding! Thank you and your guests for sharing!
@TheWoodlandEscape
3 ай бұрын
Boggles the mind the endurance our ancestors had!
@gschwendinger
3 ай бұрын
Fantastic. Thank you for all your work to share this with us. Very clearly explained in a way that can be easily understood. Really enjoyed this and learned a lot.
@TheWoodlandEscape
3 ай бұрын
You're very welcome, glad you enjoyed it.
@georgehartler3423
3 ай бұрын
Sorry I caught myself off here. Just like today there was no voting back then but everyone looks at their pocketbook and herself interest that's what happened to these poor folks probably for poor reasons in many cases
@TheWoodlandEscape
3 ай бұрын
A profound look at it.
@calebfoster552
3 ай бұрын
We love our northern neighbors. Fascinating history as always sir
@TheWoodlandEscape
3 ай бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it, we kinda you guys to the south of us as well.
@smoothvern165
3 ай бұрын
We learn so many amazing things about our history, through your channel! It’s always so interesting!
@TheWoodlandEscape
3 ай бұрын
Well sir, motivating words to keep us putting out more. Thank you.
@jdog881688
3 ай бұрын
Thank you Peter. Another interesting history lesson. Cheers!
@TheWoodlandEscape
3 ай бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it
@richardofsylmar
3 ай бұрын
What a wonderful we bit of history. Thank you.
@TheWoodlandEscape
3 ай бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it
@bmcconnellue
2 ай бұрын
Thank you so much for adding to shine a light on the experience of the United Empire Loyalists with this video. Well done! Brian McConnell, UE, President of NS Branch of United Empire Loyalists' Assocation of Canada, historian, and author of 5 books on Loyalists, all available on Amazon.
@TheWoodlandEscape
2 ай бұрын
Thank you for sharing this, sir. I’ll have to pursue your books for my winter reading list.
@rodneybrook6361
3 ай бұрын
I really like the jaunty French harp tune. Great history to
@TheWoodlandEscape
3 ай бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it
@archeanna1425
3 ай бұрын
My mother's people were Loyalists who went to PEI. I know very little about their experiences but I expect their lives were a lot like everyone else's. Question: Somewhere I picked up the idea that, perhaps as an incentive, the British government offered broad voting rights not available in the American colonies, including to women, maybe ex-slaves, that lasted until about 1834. Does anyone know what's accurate about that? I really enjoy the way you present our history and I look forward to each episode. Thank you. And I just sent a request to my local public library - Vancouver - to add Erin's book to the collection.
@TheWoodlandEscape
3 ай бұрын
Well now, you’ll have me diving into a wee bit of research now. To my knowledge voting rights were only granted to the Male head of the household. Women at that time had little or no rights including the owning of property. Having said that, I’ll be looking into it. Thanks for the question.
@daveyjoweaver6282
3 ай бұрын
Everyone and every family has a story and all are so interesting. Each is an epic novel and contain many chapters. Some chapters lost but here we are, this continuing story. Thank You Peter and to your Friends as well. I wonder what our future relatives will be saying about these present times? I believe I mentioned to you that my maternal Grandfather was born in 1892 and lived until 1989. As a boy he knew an old fella whose father was a veteran of the Revolution. So when we talk of 250 years ago, it really isn’t that long ago after all. Our connections to the past are far more currant than it may seem. Kind Thanks and Many Blessings and an Abundant Summer! DaveyJO in Pennsylvania
@TheWoodlandEscape
3 ай бұрын
You have some longevity in your blood, sir. I trust you live to the ripe old age your Grandfather did. You also bring up some very valid points.
@jeffersonspace
3 ай бұрын
Thank you Peter, and Kathy for the informative video. That time period must have been rough to live through.
@timmynormand8082
3 ай бұрын
But Peter's his wife made it through
@TheWoodlandEscape
3 ай бұрын
They were indeed turbulent times. Appreciate your interest.
@kellydietz6720
3 ай бұрын
Thank you, that was wonderful.
@TheWoodlandEscape
3 ай бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it, Kelly.
@57WillysCJ
3 ай бұрын
Great video. Saddly this was not new even for the refuges in Canada. The British expelled the French from what at the time was the Acadia region between 1755 and 1764. Even Revolutionary soldiers were not treated well. Sadly many involved were what became known as carpetbaggers. Thievery disguised as legal. Neighbor couldn't stand up for neighbor or they would fall in to the same trap. Really hasn't stopped just different. Profiteering was a constant problem for the Colonial army. Washington suffered from it and really you could look at Benedict Arnold desertion was caused by this. Frankly Native Americans suffered basically the same as well. More than a few homesteaders lost everything when someone with more influence wanted it.
@TheWoodlandEscape
3 ай бұрын
Well put, sir and sadly nothing has really changed in 250 years.
@shanek6582
2 ай бұрын
I read where Simon Kenton lost most of his legally gotten lands that he earned at great risk through exactly what you said, someone with more influence, usually lawyers. I guess owning most of current day Ohio and Kentucky is a bit much for one guy though lol.
@TheWoodlandEscape
2 ай бұрын
@@shanek6582 It didn’t help that he was illiterate.
@PCS230
2 ай бұрын
I've read a lot about the American Revolution over the years. The last two books I read were very specific about atrocities committed against the Loyalists, something I was only mildly aware of. I was horrified by these atrocities. I've come to understand that revolutions are very violent without exception. The comment below about greed, ignorance and prejudice is spot on. I take pride in my Patriot roots but I'm glad the Loyalist side of the story is being told. I really enjoyed and appreciate your video! Thank you!
@TheWoodlandEscape
2 ай бұрын
Revolutions, wars, they’re all the same, your use of the word atrocities is very appropriate. I thank you for the kind words and most certainly appreciate your interest in our endeavour.
@johnclarke6647
3 ай бұрын
If there were any Loyalists in my family I have never heard of them. Since I descend from 16 Revolutionary Soldiers and my wife from five and I know these families often married from within their collateral families - there probably weren’t any. If you were a loyalists you would have probably been disowned by your parents if they were patriots, so any record of them would probably be lost from family history and records.
@TheWoodlandEscape
3 ай бұрын
Indeed … one might say, Americas first civil war.
@stevenshanofski6801
3 ай бұрын
Very enjoyable video as always. Had some health issues crop up and have been watching many of your videos to keep me company while I mend. Like having an old friend around. Thank you both for putting so much work in to your videos. They are a treat.
@TheWoodlandEscape
3 ай бұрын
Sorry to hear that, sir. I trust you’ll have a speedy and full recovery. Your interest and support is sincerely appreciated.
@johnlea8519
3 ай бұрын
Thank you Peter your little bits of history have shown me how ignorant I am on important but often glossed over historical facts, without your videos I would remain unaware of so much.
@TheWoodlandEscape
3 ай бұрын
I’m flattered, sir. Thank you.
@steveww1507
3 ай бұрын
It was more then a Revolution it was a civil war for many brother fought brother , farther fought son . If it had ended the other way Im sure it would have been worse for the rebels much worse . I had a great grand farther who fought in the battle of Roade Island he was only 14 .Im proud of him and my country it is no worse then any other country and better then most .
@TheWoodlandEscape
3 ай бұрын
You certainly bring up some valid points and I appreciate you sharing them.
@Shaden0040
3 ай бұрын
I'm not going to say what was done to the loyalist was fair but remember it was or a lot of in its people those get hurt anymore on both sides and to say that the British didn't know wrong he's not cause or the sufferings to happen on their own people is not true the armies of British and the navies of the British did great harm to the American people loyalist and patriot and those in between they also decided who was a loyalist and who was not and subsequently attacked and damaged the homes of those that were not Loyalist There are many people who were loyalists that still had their houses plundered so to say the British did no wrong or that the loyalists did no wrong is not true i'm not saying the Americans were perfectly good in this whole situation I will never ever say that . but I'm also going to say that the British brought a lot of the stuff upon themselves now one British ship offered to bring these people to Canada not one and they asked question they asked believe they even sent a letter to Parliament saying hey we're loyalist we want nothing to do with this fight And we want to get out of here bring us home or bring us to Canada and you know what the British said fend for yourselves if your war not ours there are documents in state search to the loyalist that we're here in both the United States and Canada or made it to Canada.
@TheWoodlandEscape
3 ай бұрын
I most certainly don’t wish to give the impression that the British did no wrong. I’m simply looking at the history from the Loyalists perspective and as you know, that is one side of the coin. I should do an episode on what it was like to be a Patriot during the conflict and it would be equally brutal. I thank you for your frank feedback.
@jackcook8613
3 ай бұрын
Thanks for another history lesson, Peter. The way things are going down here in the US nowadays. History may repeat itself .
@TheWoodlandEscape
3 ай бұрын
You’re welcome to fort up at Kelly’s Station, lol.
@larrylapierre2295
3 ай бұрын
What a wonderful history lesson Peter thanks for sharing.
@TheWoodlandEscape
3 ай бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it and we thank you for your interest.
@petrimurphy6152
3 ай бұрын
Hard times everywhere to have what we got today. God bless, man the fort.
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