The fact that these criminals can talk and explain themselves really well compared to some of the knobs in prison today.
@Mistwalker67
3 жыл бұрын
Illiterate, spice fuelled meat heads today true.
@ericclaptonbutnotthefamous9610
3 жыл бұрын
Yeah times are a changing for sure, and for the worst in this respect unfortunately.
@ericclaptonbutnotthefamous9610
3 жыл бұрын
@cross hatch2 True that!
@Stiffd1
2 жыл бұрын
F**k! Hope that fella is out and about today walking the str8. Army gave him discipline.
@1700iDiGuy
2 жыл бұрын
I know, now they are illiterate mongs that need sterilizing
@williamschlich8389
2 ай бұрын
For anyone wondering what happened to the first guy, his appeal eventually made it to the House of Lords (which acted as the Supreme Court at the time) in 1985, where it was accepted i.e. his sentence was overturned. The case is called R v Moloney and it's an important case in the development of the law surrounding murder which all British law students learn about
@1stBowman
6 күн бұрын
Incredible how calm he was. I wonder how long he served for manslaughter and what happened to him when he was released.
@breakfast917
3 күн бұрын
Bang to rights
@user-ly8bq3tx5j
2 күн бұрын
@@1stBowman he was trained to kill remember
@Saxonbedwitch
Күн бұрын
One of the reasons I'm watching this is to listen to Moloney speak and talk about his stepfather. I'd heard my father talk about it. Indeed, shocking. Oblique intent!
@user-ly8bq3tx5j
Күн бұрын
@@Saxonbedwitch you have only HIS word for that....we weren't there
@noneofyourbizness
Ай бұрын
excellent doco. got depth to it...and no pathetic background music attempting to tell you how to feel.
@Ken_oh545
3 күн бұрын
As a musician I agree with this sentiment entirely - nothing more irritating than unwelcome music
@KinEllKokabel
10 сағат бұрын
@@Ken_oh545👆This
@robertbryan4640
9 сағат бұрын
The standard of sociological documentary and investigative film back up until the 1990s was just much better.
@KinEllKokabel
9 сағат бұрын
@@robertbryan4640 I’m watching ‘em lately. Great to listen to as I potter around my flat 👍🏻
@darryldickerson9079
7 ай бұрын
Great to see old school documentaries like this 👌
@CharlieEdward25
7 ай бұрын
💯 %
@derp8575
2 ай бұрын
You can say that again, pecker head!
@howey935
2 жыл бұрын
The punishment is losing their liberty that doesn’t mean treat them like animals. Treat people like animals they’ll act like animals.
@acquiesce100
8 сағат бұрын
Look how well and well spoken young people were. Now go and watch Michael palins ‘confessions of a railway spotter’ filmed in the same year. Look at how beautiful and stunning the uk looked both in London and the north whilst he made his way from London to Scotland.
@jamesupton5601
4 ай бұрын
It's so weird how peoples accents change over the years. The voices seem softer, yet more mature. Maybe they just interviewed the best talkers?
@kitharrison8799
Күн бұрын
Kids these days put on that daft rap/grime gibberish innit.
@tylersweet5994
Күн бұрын
@@kitharrison8799 Also need to add several 'Likes' in every sentence as well.
@young_legend8091
21 сағат бұрын
@@kitharrison8799was the good days of England a time where I would have been proud to call this my home now I dread it. Immigration and adding culture diversity has destroyed England for good. The next generations our gonna be even more fucked!
@hunglikeanhamster931
9 сағат бұрын
Good to see and hear how the English spoke and thought back in the day. Brilliant documentary, thanks for sharing 🙏
@tonyalways7174
2 жыл бұрын
A phenomenal documentary. 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
@gobshite
Жыл бұрын
When the UK was a very different place
@derp8575
2 ай бұрын
Diversity is terrible.
@1stBowman
6 күн бұрын
It was in the process of changing. Unions being destroyed plus mass immigration - many of them unskilled. England lost its identity and is now one of the wokest, craziest, places in the English speaking world. Imagine telling these blokes that biological men would hold records in women's sports and that you could go to gaol for intentionally misgendering someone. Sad.
@th8257
Күн бұрын
@@derp8575and you're a russian troll
@th8257
Күн бұрын
Why would it be the same? This was literally last century
@user-pe2pt2bs7x
Күн бұрын
Diversity is our strength 😂😂😂
@Nick-fy1zp
3 жыл бұрын
Amazing footage with the fella who was with Bob maudsley.. mad to see that..thanks
@G4RY1159
Ай бұрын
No TV's or play stations back in them days, a radio, piss pot and a few scud mags.
@m75s87
Күн бұрын
Scud mags 😂😂 Tremendous 80’s dialect!
@BlytheWorld1972
5 жыл бұрын
amazing vintage uk doc
@kebabtank
5 жыл бұрын
Many thanks for this, top man. If you have any more of this series or even the follow up in 2003. I' be very grateful. all the best.
@CharlieEdward25
4 жыл бұрын
I have it but you have to watch it with a american vpn enabled its called lifers as well sadly channel 4 blocked it in this country as it caused a lot of problems with the victims family
@garypilling1968
4 жыл бұрын
@@CharlieEdward25 many thanks for your videos . I am out of the UK and VPN enabled . Is the other video on your page ? As I can't see it . Kind regards
@CharlieEdward25
4 жыл бұрын
@@garypilling1968 other video ?
@garypilling1968
4 жыл бұрын
@@CharlieEdward25 sorry you mentioned above you had one of the follow up ones to lifers unless I misread it
@CharlieEdward25
4 жыл бұрын
@@garypilling1968 yeah i had the latest one its there on my channel but needs a vpn yeah usa i think works
@saxongreen78
2 жыл бұрын
A lot of people get life for bumping off troublesome family members - makes me feel a bit better about having no contact with mine.
@StuartWhelan-up8vs
2 күн бұрын
Your not alone l lived on a farm my dad was a horrible man with drink in him l wanting to plenty of times l had a shotgun when l was 11 many years later l talked him out of killing himself when my mam left him l got no thanks for it why l rescue dogs never been married lm happy doing my own thing
@jonjames7328
Сағат бұрын
@@StuartWhelan-up8vsbless you Stuart. I wish you all the best.
@miss.l.1563
2 жыл бұрын
Just come from the 1972 Women in prison. Man alive series. Filmed in Holloway. A woman in the comments section mentioned this documentary so great that I've found it. 👍. I'm almost 37, first went prison in 2004, last 2019. Prison was different (lots of changes) throughout those years, so to see prison in the 70's and 80's is crazy! I love how they spoke back then! And it doesn't seem full of wannabe badboys and chavvy girls. Lol (Not judging as met some brilliant girls throughout the years, but there's always a few gobby cows who's bark is bigger than their bite) .
@CharlieEdward25
2 жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoy these few other good prison docs on the channel 😀
@mannyrobbo4508
3 жыл бұрын
"So I went upstairs and grabbed a couple of shotguns".......like you do!
@edforbes1563
21 сағат бұрын
What could possibly go wrong??
@sputnik1941
2 жыл бұрын
The searing honesty is incredible .
@kebabtank
Жыл бұрын
I know. For me it's the brevity in the way they talk, they just get straight to the point, no messing about.
@truetothegame2928
5 ай бұрын
they got chocolates / cigarettes for their interviews - never trust the television
@paulmcdonough1093
Күн бұрын
@@truetothegame2928 who cares
@progressivefilmsUK
4 ай бұрын
23 hour's a day bang up then 1980.. 23 hour's a day bang up now 2024.. do your bird, get your nut down, do your time, don't come back..
@eyefishinggunkchannel1011
2 жыл бұрын
this is rare...from the 80s bloody hell verry rare..
@ericclaptonbutnotthefamous9610
3 жыл бұрын
The guy there calling Alistair is a relative of mine,it happened many years ago and I was very young. Almost all of the family stories I've heard of it is,,, his dad was very tough on him(a prick of a man by the sound of it) and when Alistair came home from the army his dad continued to bring him down, and from what I've been told by certain family members that the only trueth in his story he told about what happened that night is,,yeah they both went out with shotguns. But his evil old step dad used the competition to get him out, but then started to belittle him and called him a coward and something along the line of,,, even the army couldn't make a killer of a cowardly idiot like you! and then pointed his shotgun at him, threatening to shoot him in the knees Alistair got scared and angry then retaliated, and as you heard in his own words "accidentally"🙄 shot him in the side of the head.
@kebabtank
3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for sharing this with us mate. I hope Alistair is well? What did he do with his life when he got out? All the best.
@ericclaptonbutnotthefamous9610
3 жыл бұрын
@@kebabtank I'm not really sure what he's doing now, and after my dad died (the side of the family he is from) I don't see much of them much and there is a few crazy relative's on my dad's side lol but I haven't ever met him in person only seen him in this and an old family photo years ago but I'll always remember that story in the family and that is all I can honestly tell you, thanks for sharing this, it was a cousin of mine who told me about this video being on here 👍
@BlytheWorld1972
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the info he was a lovely young lad in this film smart too i really hope he got his life back on track you can tell that lad is not a bad person .
@RetroRegan
Жыл бұрын
Someone in the comments further down said that he won his appeal and was released in 1985.
@weedee1477
Жыл бұрын
Thank you for letting us know what happened for him to be where he is. So sad that his evil dad did this to him. He seems such a good person, I really hope he made something of his life when he got out. Sending some love to him from a wee Scottish lassie. 💕Glasgow 🏴
@johnlaslett4793
2 жыл бұрын
The penal system isn't designed to rehabilitate. It's designed to break. No such thing as reform.
@starryian007
2 жыл бұрын
True, but many people cannot be reformed anyway.
@eyefishinggunkchannel1011
2 жыл бұрын
i was reformed 100%
@Mangraper
2 жыл бұрын
@@eyefishinggunkchannel1011 You reformed you not the prison system
@gurney2931
4 ай бұрын
Certainly was true, I couldn't tell you about nowadays.
@Sameoldfitup
2 жыл бұрын
I knew Trevor Kane intervied in this video 22:11 he died in a subway in Ashton Under Lyne. Freedom is very important, to go out for a walk, stand at a bus stop waiting in the rain for a bus. Things these men could only dream of doing for years and years.
@CharlieEdward25
2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for sharing sad to hear that 😢
@kebabtank
2 жыл бұрын
Hello there, many thanks for sharing this sad news. I remember there was an article in the Times in 2003 about Trevor, shortly before the follow up to the first Lifer series was broadcast. And for me, Trevors' story was the most interesting of the lot. I was fascinated with his military and subsequent criminal background, and although he seemed very troubled in the follow up series (I believe he was in his sixties by then) he appeared to be living quite comfortably. He served a very long sentence and had a very chaotic life as a younger man, but it was so sad to see him weeping when he talked about the murder he committed later in life. Could I ask you, when did Trevor die? How old was he? And what were the circumstances? All the best.
Just watching this and it’s excellent. Would love to know what became of some the inmates.
@CharlieEdward25
3 жыл бұрын
One of the best
@TheGBs1972
3 жыл бұрын
@@virusoaxzy9727 That great time hear. Just goes to show how people can make a success of their lives despite things not always going to plan.
@ianmangham4570
Жыл бұрын
Getting old is a TRIP
@kc8181
4 жыл бұрын
A very cold character the first guy. But an army man who didn’t know he was pointing a gun at someone? Not so sure about that.
@CharlieEdward25
4 жыл бұрын
Couldn't work it out myself probs a drunken arguement possibly we will never no :(
@kc8181
4 жыл бұрын
In fairness, these guys were a product of the WW2 generation. I think they were more blind about things. More matter of fact. It was a survival strategy used by their parents or themselves. But I still think an army man k own where a gun is pointing though.
@kc8181
4 жыл бұрын
In fairness, these guys were a product of the WW2 generation. I think they were more blind about things. More matter of fact. It was a survival strategy used by their parents or themselves. But I still think an army man k own where a gun is pointing though.
@CharlieEdward25
4 жыл бұрын
@@kc8181 for sure i was brought up by my grandparents grandad was in dday at sword beach landing they where very strict on me i personally found them days a lot better then today
@quantro65
3 жыл бұрын
He won his appeal, got out in 85 .
@moominmay
2 жыл бұрын
That guy Dennis who killed his mother - why on earth should that guy decide his own fate? His poor mother that he murdered likely begged for her life but he didn’t listen so why should the prison system to him? He wants a quick easy way out because he’s got ‘nothing to look forward to’ rather than serving his life sentence well tough it doesn’t work like that. If someone murdered me or a loved one and then was caught, I’d be pretty pi**ed if the offender got to dictate their life thereafter as to what suited them best like choosing to just take a nice little pill to put them to sleep i.e escape their punishment!
@iancameron6124
2 жыл бұрын
Have you any other rare prison documentary there such good to watch thanks buddy👍
@CharlieEdward25
2 жыл бұрын
I have a few i need to edit and upload just haven't got around to them yet check out the channel some good stuff prison wise bud
@kebabtank
2 жыл бұрын
@@CharlieEdward25 I'd love to see those docs mate. I am very interested in docs from the 70's and 80s, they just have a brutal reality to them. I'd love to see the 'Lifer' series from the 80s as it was originally broadcast. The follow up from 2003 was superb and I do wonder if another follow up is coming up? All the best.
@eamonnevans8005
Жыл бұрын
I wonder what happened to all these lifers. How many of them would still be inside today, 40 years on.
@kebabtank
Жыл бұрын
Alright mate. There was a follow up to this programme broadcast in 2003 and half were out, half were still in and some were on the run! The young lad at the beginning, the ex-soldier, got out in 1985 on appeal and the man with the drop moustache @ 21:45 is a man called Trevor Kane. He was an ex-squaddie and French Foreign Legionaire (an amazing life story) and he died a few years ago in either Newcastle or Ashton undey lyme. And btw, if any of the others are still in, I'd be amazed. They are either elderly or dead, apart from the young lad, he'd be in his sixties now. All the best.
@lymarie1974
9 ай бұрын
@@kebabtankthank you for the update.
@kc8181
4 жыл бұрын
Yes. I think people were a bit stronger. I think stoic is the word. I wonder what happened to these guys. I was nineteen in 82.
@anenglishlassxx116
3 жыл бұрын
He said he could not remember a thing due to being so drunk, yet he explained everything what happened. Thats why he was found guilty of murder, he could not use being intoxicated, as a defence for manslaughter.
@nickpn23
3 жыл бұрын
You can't anyway. Intoxication is no defence in British law.
@Donaldtrunp2024
3 жыл бұрын
he said was going with what evidence says
@SiLoJayLo
2 жыл бұрын
Why are you looking to catch him out?! Who set YOU up to be his judge?! You're not fit for that purpose..................
@anenglishlassxx116
2 жыл бұрын
Lol
@Mangraper
2 жыл бұрын
@@nickpn23 Actually it can be used as a way of removing intent from certain crimes.
@ulfkjell
Жыл бұрын
Lifer (1983) Rex Bloomstein / Thames Television
@Ru556
3 жыл бұрын
So many faults in the convictions delivered. One questions the suitability of the jury system.
@karenwilson9528
2 ай бұрын
That kids story, and I do believe him, is the saddest thing I have ever heard. Men aren't the same. A 'man' twice his age these days wouldn't be so willing to stand up and take responsibility for their actions. Not blame others. Not say things are wrong and they are being wronged. I feel so bad for him.
@elastiekeltjeshaar
2 жыл бұрын
I'm watching this after just watching the documentary Broadmoor - Serial Killers & High Security, where the hostage/murder by Robert Maudsley was a subject. What a coincidence that his co-conspirator David Cheeseman is starring in this docu talking about the incident 41:28. Great docu, thanks for sharing. Cheers from the Netherlands
@leetlbt
2 күн бұрын
Here's a canny channel about serial killers its a bit different thats for sure (LOLFIELDANDLOVE) The Satanic conspiracy
@cameron1999cam
2 жыл бұрын
Madness how quite a of these people will still be in prison at this current moment.
@eyefishinggunkchannel1011
2 жыл бұрын
this was the 80s now that is 42 years ago u only get 15 for a murder or a bit more none of them will be still in
@odorlesslebs8055
Жыл бұрын
They are doing 15 years
@ptrekboxbreaks5198
Жыл бұрын
@@odorlesslebs8055 the very first kid had a life sentence
@igor-yp1xv
Жыл бұрын
@@ptrekboxbreaks5198 they explain in the video that a life sentence in the uk doesn't actually mean the person will stay locked up until they die, they can be released but it depends when. Most serve p about 10 years.
@kebabtank
Жыл бұрын
@@ptrekboxbreaks5198 He got out in 1985 after an appeal.
@annabanana8625
3 жыл бұрын
It made rather a mess ... 😬
@Trek001
9 ай бұрын
Sending the guy to the counter for some stamps was actually a rather clever test of honesty
@SimDeck
3 жыл бұрын
The bloke talking at 40:00 plus is not mad. He is articulate, aware and can understand everything he has done.
@quack437
2 жыл бұрын
Pretty sure the guy he calls bob that helped him is robert maudsley known as Hannibal the cannibal
@SimDeck
2 жыл бұрын
@@quack437 I read your comment yesterday and today in our local paper there was a full article about Maudsley. You are right btw.
@quack437
2 жыл бұрын
@@SimDeck i was thinking that cus the case sounds similar wee fact although hes called a cannibal he never ate anyone
@supergrahamg
2 жыл бұрын
I agree, are you confused ? ; that is why he is a psychopath. The point is that these people are bad, not mad, i.e. they are malign, evil etc. Please note that we are hearing his version of events which is not contested, and, surprise, surprise, he presents himself as either not psychologically present at the events (though no mention of drugs etc), or as some kind of victim of circumstance.....No one has to beat someone's brains out with a hammer...if he was being exploited by someone, walk out of the front door......People are in Broadmoor because they are untreatable and fucking dangerous !!!!
@marcp3788
Жыл бұрын
He's a nonce, called David Cheeseman
@kevphillips02
Ай бұрын
Rubber dolls for prisoners 😂 . We must start a campaign for rubber dolls .
@Mrmallet777
50 минут бұрын
His ass is getting pummeled
@version736ha2
Жыл бұрын
1:29:30 15p for a carrier bag in 82? Where was it, Harrods?
@daveround7936
3 жыл бұрын
That's a manslaughter charge
@FixedFace
5 жыл бұрын
putting violent murderers to sleep painlessly is inhuman
@jamesbeaton7010
2 күн бұрын
I've been in prison with many lifers,and most of them have told me the biggest punishment is the one they put on themselves, living with the fact that you have taken someone's life many told me is harder than doing the life sentence itself. I told them, tell that to the relatives of that deceased person!!!
@ianmangham4570
Жыл бұрын
Cells bigger than my bedroom 😀 I got the 8x8ft BOX room
@Ozzy-87
2 жыл бұрын
30:40 theres a fine line between genius and insanity and this fella is walking right along it.
@MrGoneTroppo
Жыл бұрын
"I picked up a hammer that was lying on the side" - he's lucky I can never find a hammer when I need one
@granitesevan6243
Жыл бұрын
@@MrGoneTroppo have you looked in the toolbox?
@MrChipz900
Жыл бұрын
I’m assuming he never got out. Fascinating listen.
@MrChipz900
Жыл бұрын
Also, imagine how mental the blokes are he chooses to avoid 🤣
@nickpn23
3 жыл бұрын
I had a good time in the Scrubs in the hot summer of 1976. Plenty of books, exercise every morning and evening, a cell of my own, plenty of food, cats running everywhere.
@nickpn23
3 жыл бұрын
And the architecture is some of the finest Victoriana I've seen.
@nickpn23
3 жыл бұрын
@cross hatch2 Blue plastic spoons. big mugs of tea and a cake each evening after lock-up. Bliss!
@nickpn23
3 жыл бұрын
The pottery I'm not so sure.
@rexterrocks
2 жыл бұрын
I was there in 85 and there were 3 of us to a cell. I'd only give it 2 stars.
@nickpn23
2 жыл бұрын
@@rexterrocks I was awaiting a psychiatric decision and was in hospital with Ian Brady and Graham Young, poisoner. Saw John Stonehouse MP when he arrived. 300 young prisoners shouting out from B wing 'Do your bird Stonehouse, you cunt.'
@danphillips3730
Жыл бұрын
Joyce is talking herself in to more time here... "I've not changed"
@Stiffd1
2 жыл бұрын
Reminds me of release for early dinners at school..Treacle Tart. Only if you’re good, mind!
@whywhywhy9659
11 сағат бұрын
The first man is unbelievable.
@shanejohnson1841
4 жыл бұрын
Am on a life sentence not for murder but to protect the public. My minimum tarrif was 7 years only got out 11 months ago now
@CharlieEdward25
3 жыл бұрын
Just actually read this how's it going bud must be mad coming out after that long hope u keeping well bro
@joulupukki1607
3 жыл бұрын
What happened? I mean if u were protectin other ppl how u get so much time
@Woodwose47
4 жыл бұрын
Interesting interview with David Cheeseman.
@mkmaudsley8381
4 жыл бұрын
He's changed his second name to Lant now. But I agree it was interesting. I've been fascinated by the Maudsley case for years and it was a hidden gem to see that interview with David. Load of crap about Bob eating the guys brain tho lol. Sorry to rant 👍
@bippafromtheuk1395
4 жыл бұрын
Which one is David lant?
@kebabtank
3 жыл бұрын
@@bippafromtheuk1395 @ 38:06
@Mrmallet777
33 минут бұрын
The amount of people in for committing their crimes while drunk is scary
@nickpn23
3 жыл бұрын
Note all the male interviewees had neatly rolled shirt sleeves with a white reverse showing. Shirts like that were a bit of a status thing in those days, with the alpha types picking them out of the stack on laundry day. It seemed to be a thing that professional villains did, as they had a real thing about neatness and cleanliness. They often grabbed a few white towels and laid them on the shelves and table in their cell like table clothes. It was a thing. Many if not most of the rest of the prisoners were indifferent to that pose or too shambolic to care. I reckon the cons in this video were given the best shirts for their appearances in front of the cameras.
@moominmay
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this insight I don’t feel so weird now for getting a little distracted with the first guys shirt thinking how nice the rolled up sleeves were considering where he was! 😅
@nickpn23
2 жыл бұрын
@@moominmay I knew it would bother some people, so I thought I'd explain.
@Neddyfram
5 ай бұрын
@@moominmayI think that’s the army tbh, looking at soldiers during the time they have their sleeves exactly the same
@bobholyoake8577
Жыл бұрын
Different criminals back then unlike today
@JackBlack-gh5yf
15 сағат бұрын
I was in the Scrubs in 1980. It was a hot summer that year, 3 to a cell, 23 hour bang-up.
@Ladygaga4047
3 күн бұрын
I watched a video today about a 20 plus yr old who cot 110 years because his truck breaks failed. He could have been delivering medical supplies on a regular basis
@gemmafarquhar5479
2 жыл бұрын
End part ,the fella sounds like red at his parole meeting at end off shawshank film 🤔
@BlytheWorld1972
5 жыл бұрын
did you record this yourself fab quality
@jaycool5285
4 жыл бұрын
BlytheWorld1972 it’s 1980 dumbass what did you expect?
@maskoff9292
2 жыл бұрын
@@jaycool5285 😂😂😂
@BlytheWorld1972
2 жыл бұрын
@@jaycool5285 what are you talking about ya fuck .
@thevanguardsofmanhood8463
3 жыл бұрын
Playing Lewis Collins at 1:26:24. 'When You Come Hone Again'. cosmic.
@quack437
2 жыл бұрын
Pretty sure the guy talking at 44 mins about the murder in Broadmoor is talking about robert mauldley who was referred to as bob ..
@bokane1963
2 жыл бұрын
He is
@supergrahamg
2 жыл бұрын
the most chilling inmate is the woman at 60 minutes approx. The stink of self pity, no sense that she was responsible for her actions on her burglary spree, batshit crazy, brooding and very difficult to read. The reminds me of Myra Hindley. Next time you see a Friendship Society, give it a pass......
@kebabtank
Жыл бұрын
You should see her in the follow up documentary that was made in 2003. She had got out (think she did about 15 years) and she was the oldest looking forty-something I had ever seen. She had settled though and had a son, overall though I did feel sorry for her as it sounds like she was of a low intellect, had very low self-esteem and had been easily led.
@derp8575
2 ай бұрын
You can say that again, pecker head!
@janty68
Ай бұрын
What is the name of the follow up documentary?
@edwardodonnell6857
2 жыл бұрын
So sad really how a persons life can be changed forever because of a serious wrong action.
@gurney2931
4 ай бұрын
What about their dead victims ? Their lives have also been changed !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
@jimcunningham9975
2 күн бұрын
The prisons seemed more civilised
@davidmellish3295
18 сағат бұрын
This is from 1982 and not 1980 as the title says
@gagiman7273
2 жыл бұрын
How refreshing someone how would like the death penalty back. Good man
@MrChipz900
Жыл бұрын
Disgusting in my view. Imagine the guy who has a duty of care for people advocating their hanging.
@eyefishinggunkchannel1011
2 жыл бұрын
These ppl will all be out now its 42 years ago wow that sounds crazy..in the 2000s i was like 12 and you looked bk at the 80s and 90 and would say its 10 or 20 years ago which sounded ok but we are now in 2022 and this was 42 years ago 42 years and its rare for sum1 2 be given a full life sentence in america life is life
@krt3718
4 жыл бұрын
I'd love to see an update on the people in this.
@CharlieEdward25
3 жыл бұрын
@boxing fan uk yeah it's here on my channel I'm sure
@Dannydawson537
3 жыл бұрын
Pretty sure I’ve seen it it takes you to the 90s and most of these guys are in hospitals and don’t look nothing like they did
@kebabtank
2 жыл бұрын
@@Dannydawson537 Yeah, there was an update that was broadcast in 2003, they looked at four who had been released and four who were still inside. And you're right, they all looked nothing like they used to. Prison left it's mark alright.
@Dannydawson537
2 жыл бұрын
@@kebabtank hi and the difference in the lads was sad just pumped with medication I was in strange ways late 89s and was a very hard place for a 16 year old
@kebabtank
2 жыл бұрын
@@Dannydawson537 Alright mate. Sorry to hear about your stay inside, I just hope that you stayed out and made something of your life.
@upsidedownworldexposed6735
2 жыл бұрын
"So how long you been doing a life sentence " . Reply " o week last Friday now "!!! Jesus
@ShikiraPressley
3 жыл бұрын
Children even in their primary years were sent to these awful places and because they were simply abused at home in some peculiar way - would like to see documentaries with actual video footage of these things. Clearly this young lad had gone through some kind of trauma, regardless of how good relationship he had with his own father - why else would he be in such a dreadful place??? - something not quite right.
@moominmay
2 жыл бұрын
Some people are just bad. Not saying the first young man is but just because someone’s young doesn’t mean they’re not capable of extreme wrong doing. They don’t all have had to have gone through some trauma.
@matty6848
2 жыл бұрын
He didn’t have a good relationship with his step dad. His step father was a complete bastard too him who mentally abused him for years. Hardly surprising what happened.
@ShikiraPressley
2 жыл бұрын
@@matty6848 I agree totally and your comment has got a thumbs up!
@matty6848
2 жыл бұрын
@@ShikiraPressley thanks😊👍🏻
@Dibley8899
9 ай бұрын
Probably did a couple of tours in Nr Ireland, maybe three in 4 years.
@Bloody_alchemy
4 жыл бұрын
Wonder where they are now
@craigmuscat613
5 жыл бұрын
I wonder when it said average time spent in prison for life is 10 years there is one man who been inside for 30 year, wonder if that was Bronson
@craigmuscat613
5 жыл бұрын
jnicemint ahh okay 👍
@burnsy6982
3 жыл бұрын
Couldn't of been. Charlie was sentenced in '74 this is in '82 he'd of only been inside for 8yrs when this was filmed. ✌️
@nickpn23
3 жыл бұрын
Probably George Davis (NOT that George Davis) who murdered an officer by running over him in a jeep. I was with him in 1976 and he'd served something like 27 years by then.
@kebabtank
2 жыл бұрын
@@nickpn23 Do you know if George Davis was ever released?
@Roscoe.P.Coldchain
2 жыл бұрын
He only got 3 years or something for robbery and never came out..
@kevm4035
4 жыл бұрын
Screws were brutal in the Scrubs in the 80s and early 90s.
@daibennett9224
4 жыл бұрын
Kevin Murphy all prisons back then was brutal
@dragonfitter
4 жыл бұрын
I would imagine when dealing with men as violent as these that brutal would be the best way to keep them in order
@kevm4035
4 жыл бұрын
@@dragonfitter 2 wrongs don't make it right...Screws are trained only to use control and restraint techniques by home office approval, anything ie kicks,punches, beatings is a criminal act.
@alogan5590
3 жыл бұрын
@@kevm4035 true but shame it doesn't work like that 😕
@nibbagee3640
2 жыл бұрын
I'm assuming it's just like Scum
@thomaspenman4101
5 ай бұрын
If all screws were like this guy talking with the inmate prisons would run more smoother there is good screws you know give respect to them
@jamiecoulson1016
10 сағат бұрын
We all know you was the screws favourite con . You was definitely the screws teaboy
@karenwilson9528
2 ай бұрын
Wow! So this guy was with Mordsley when they did the whole 'brain spoon' thing?
@marclaw4511
2 жыл бұрын
The last chap speaks really well but he could be that 1 in a 100 who could kill again.
@kebabtank
Жыл бұрын
I know what you mean. He's probably long gone now.
@gagiman7273
2 жыл бұрын
Victoria Wood pulling the cart dobin
@TheGodParticle
21 күн бұрын
Ha ha I noticed that too.
@SiLoJayLo
2 жыл бұрын
@17:08 - Re the death penalty: "....it wouldn't be a deterrent but it's a necessary thing, & it would enable us to spend more time with the remainder of the prisoners..."!!?? What?! So, basically, the choice of punishment imposed by the state should be decided by the resourses issue??!! What a load of twaddle!!!
@formynexttick2104
12 сағат бұрын
He walked down the platform like Gene Wilder
@version736ha2
Жыл бұрын
One towards the end that pushed his wife off a cliff. Am I understanding this right. Pushes her off a cliff, goes and gets her, takes her home, puts her to bed, she dies in the night, he finds her dead in morning?
@marcp3788
Жыл бұрын
19:02 Robert Maudsley next to the guy who's talking
@Jamie_Wulfyr
8 сағат бұрын
Bloody hell. So it was. Well spotted.
@lennywebb6740
2 жыл бұрын
1:05:11 Why is she laughing and why is the interviewer laughing when they are talking about an old woman being beaten to death??
@MisunderstoodMisanthrope
7 ай бұрын
Anyone know where I can find the end of this documentary?
@skullduggery1096
5 жыл бұрын
When prison was prison,not like today.I went to the scrubs twice back then,waiting to be allocated for borstal,and second time,borstal recall for Onely.(that was hard).Today the cons are mollycoddled.Toilet and washbasin in a cell,tv,music players,private spends,your own clothes and all the rest of it.At least back then you knew where one stood,slop out,prison uniforms,if you were lucky a bit of work,it could be harsh but at least it was real.
@nickpn23
3 жыл бұрын
Phones! Video games! These people are spoilt children. Wasn't like that on B-wing with the baby burglars circa 1976.
@kevinadams346
3 жыл бұрын
I was in onley in 92 till 94 it was an easy prison. But I can imagine how rough it would have been back then.
@matty6848
2 жыл бұрын
@@nickpn23 agreed about the TVs and Xbox but they allow them to have those luxuries because it keeps the violence down because it stops the boredom. That’s why most prisoners kick off because their bored out of their brains. If dishing out a few TVs and Xbox’s keeps the peace then so be it. The prison officers want a easy life like anyone else so most are happy for them to have TVs and Xbox’s in their cells.
@eternalasquith
Жыл бұрын
@@matty6848 That, and the fact it gives inmates something to lose if they do misbehave.
@Danstarrrr88
Ай бұрын
“Million pound and helicopter” 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@CharlieEdward25
Ай бұрын
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣👌 classic
@edforbes1563
20 сағат бұрын
Fuck it, just give us a bottle of pernod!
@markwebster5749
11 ай бұрын
How shocking was sloping out before loos in your pad
@billywatson1552
Күн бұрын
Would much rather be in prison in the 80’s that the 2020’s !!
@heresjohnny1219
2 жыл бұрын
Hmm yeah ok I can’t believe a soldier of 4 years doesn’t know muzzle discipline 😂
@red-pn8fk
2 жыл бұрын
how much of his sentence did the first lad do? that was a bizarre story of how he killee his father
@heresjohnny1219
2 жыл бұрын
Got out in 85 so 3 yrs 👍🏼
@mickmcc3129
3 жыл бұрын
4 o'clock in the morning and we were pretty drunk ...oh an I murdered him but you remembered getting the shotty from upstairs
@lescooper5224
3 жыл бұрын
With personal experience you will only hear what they want to tell you
@eternalasquith
Жыл бұрын
Sadly we don't get to hear what their victims have to say...
@andrewcrombie1371
Жыл бұрын
Jail today is 80 percent junkies 10 percent polish and 10 percent just normal guys getting there head down and getting on with it.
@stevenhensman2541
Күн бұрын
If I was in charge of this country today. In 2024, there would not be a prison standing. In this country, the UK would be crime free.Believe you me when I say it would be crying free.That is what I mean?I am not saying I am Hitler, but I will give you something to think about.It would be crime free
@themanwithnoname2666
2 жыл бұрын
What happend to these men?.
@ABritishBoyAndAFilipina
2 күн бұрын
The guy who hit someone with the spirit level, there must be something he is not saying because the way he explained it sounded like manslaughter, but he was convicted of murder! he says it should of been manslaughter but like I say, there must be more to that story.
@williamryan6162
4 жыл бұрын
2134 he is familiar bob manard maybe
@TheGBs1972
3 жыл бұрын
Who is he?
@derhampaul2182
Жыл бұрын
Choices
@kevinadams346
3 жыл бұрын
No regret from the first fellow
@kingadonis4450
2 жыл бұрын
That guy who dose art anyone have information about him
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