I had the exact same problems with AE. My first gun never came and AE wouldn’t return money. Had to file a PayPal claim. Against my better judgement, I ordered another one. It did not work as described and was virtually useless. AE support is terrible and the seller, an authorized AE seller refused a refund. I ended up selling the gun as is at a big loss. I would not recommend anyone get involved with AE.
@Boojakascha
Жыл бұрын
Wow, that makes three of us now :(
@CryingFreem4n
Жыл бұрын
Ae is a total rip off… same story for me.. paid but never received anything even whé AE told me it’s ok they will consider It. I don’t understand why there is no specific topic for this ae gun story on arcade controls forum for people to know…
@Boojakascha
Жыл бұрын
@@CryingFreem4n Statements like this might be taken down by Andrew. This very video is attacked with KZitem defamation claims right now. Maybe that's why we don't see more. I am very sad to hear that way more people are affected than I initially thought :(
@brentrusche2056
8 ай бұрын
@@Boojakascha Thanks for that quick response...it is clear I am not the only person offended but happy to have received something (albeit shorted by the on-gun display) and am very sorry there are many people in the community that are still suffering and hope they receive their product.
@Boojakascha
8 ай бұрын
@@brentrusche2056 Oh no, does that mean that your on-gun display isn't working at all? Or were you able to fix it?
@OKNewman
Жыл бұрын
Thank you for continuing to be my favorite curator of light gun content. That said: I'm genuinely sorry that any of this debacle became any part of your life.
@Boojakascha
Жыл бұрын
You are very welcome =) I don't enjoy drama too much^^ had to think twice about making this video :P
@milkapeismilky5464
Жыл бұрын
I agree. I trust Ben's reviews absolutely.
@Larry
Жыл бұрын
I've seen pictures of this before, but never knew there was a kickstarter for it. Was this before of after the Sinden light gun's campaign?
@Boojakascha
Жыл бұрын
AE's first Kickstarter, when it still was arguably a gyro gun, was August 2020. That is after both of Andrew Sinden's campaigns (June 2018 failed & April 2019 successful). It's also way after the Gun4IR which was released September 2019.
@tedcrilly1
Жыл бұрын
I can't remember now, but have you done any videos on Lightgun games? Would like to see your take on them and any mainstream future they may have. :)
@Boojakascha
Жыл бұрын
@@tedcrilly1 Back when Larry was still on TV he covered two =) kzitem.info/news/bejne/mK9_nH6XoaukknY kzitem.info/news/bejne/0oCOnGhmh2OrjYo
@tedcrilly1
Жыл бұрын
@@Boojakascha Thankyou!
@Pippy45
Жыл бұрын
That kio dieken guy is involved in it somehow,constantly defending the product and look at all these complaints and he still pipes up from his little hole and starts being a complete sausage.100% he's involved somewhere in all this.why would you defend something that's stolen money off people and the proof is above 👆🏾
@Boojakascha
Жыл бұрын
Very sad :(
@KimSamaVideos
Жыл бұрын
I don't get it. I watched his videos of him using on big LCD tv's. He says it works good, but you can 100% see it doesn't
@Boojakascha
Жыл бұрын
@@KimSamaVideos indeed. It needs screen 3 diagonals distance, else you have dead zones. The sensitivity can't be set. At a big TV, you are so far away, that the gun has trouble seeing the two reference points!
@Pippy45
Жыл бұрын
@@KimSamaVideos first batches worked,we're way way way past that,new batches are faulty and you'll be very lucky if it even turns up.
@drady4172
Жыл бұрын
If U watch his vids he actually points out issues
@PrettyBlueThings
Жыл бұрын
I made 2 basic gun4IR guns from 2 old namco guns. Incredibly simple to do with a little soldering experience and the accuracy and plug and play nature once initially calibrated is absolutely fantastic. One thing I would recommend however is that a guncon 2 is used to give a few more buttons for the few games that require them. I can't speak to rumble or solenoids as I didn't include them. Love your videos, I am a light gun fanatic and always have been, light gun games such as house of the dead in the arcades have always been my favourite thing to play!
@Boojakascha
Жыл бұрын
I almost have the same thing: A GunCon 2 clone with Gun4IR internals, lacking any sort of force feedback :D And I love it! Thank you, Sir! House of the Dead is an awesome series :D
@tedcrilly1
Жыл бұрын
Did you buy the kit from gun4IR? bit pricey, any alternatives?
@PrettyBlueThings
Жыл бұрын
@@tedcrilly1 Hi Phil. Nope I bought 2 black gcon from eBay, 2 Arduino, 2 fish eye lenses and 2 x 10ft usb cables from Amazon, 2 IR sensors from DFRobot, 100 IR LEDs from Farnell/CPC ( I have loads spare if you want some) and that was all I needed. I had a soldering iron and wire etc. Once I had all the kit I stripped down the gun con, leaving only the trigger in place. Programmed the Arduino, put the IR camera in place, built the Leds with some old usb cables, bare PCB and electrical tape and fit them to TV. Connected it all up, installed and ran the software, turned the cameras around in the gcon to get them the right way up when viewed via the software and locked them in place. Put guns back together, glued fish eye lenses on and that was it... Sounds a lot but was much more achievable than I ever thought ☺️
@tedcrilly1
Жыл бұрын
@@PrettyBlueThings Nice! I've plenty of GCON1 & 2's kicking about. What guide did you follow?
@PrettyBlueThings
Жыл бұрын
@@tedcrilly1 just the Pdf from the Gun4IR GitHub if I remember correctly
@vintagecapgunsatyourmomshouse
Жыл бұрын
I wondered when you would review this. You warned me of the AE gun over a year ago. I am glad I did not waste money on this product. I am puzzled why no real firearms enthusiast has seemed to be involved with the design of light guns. When will you be releasing your secret design? 😁 Thank you Ben!
@Boojakascha
Жыл бұрын
I am also happy you could wait until my review :D True, it's very strange! While I am a fire arms enthusiast, if I ever come out with a design, I would probably put the buttons to places which allow one handed use, like the examples shown in the review at 08:22. I used a training gun, with a realistic (Hall effect sensor based!!!) trigger in episode 96. This is very nice, but not perfect for games, where you have to shoot a lot :D
@vintagecapgunsatyourmomshouse
Жыл бұрын
@@Boojakascha yes light gun triggers do need to be comfortable. In a regular training session I pull a trigger 200-300 times. Using quality aftermarket flat triggers improves My performance and reduces fatigue. Of course there are many more trigger pulls in a light gun game. I believe it would be difficult to design an excellent light gun at an affordable price. I don't think it's impossible, but it would be difficult. I have flattened and widened the triggers on my happ guns with good results.
@Boojakascha
Жыл бұрын
@@vintagecapgunsatyourmomshouse That Happ trigger modification sounds ingeninous =)
@milkapeismilky5464
Жыл бұрын
@@Boojakascha I would not say genius, just expedient, but thank you.
@dan_76
Жыл бұрын
I spent a couple of months trying to get one last year. After this review I'm glad I couldn't. Looks home made, the flexible plastic and movable circuit board is a big no no, terrible buttons as well. With all these light guns I've yet to find anything as easy (or cheap!) as a Dolphin bar.
@Boojakascha
Жыл бұрын
The AE Lightgun is indeed terribly difficult to get hold of :D The Dolphin bar is neat :) One candidate that, depending on your chip-set, is simpler is Lichtknarre & candles =) I can pair my laptop directly to the Wii Remote, as the Bluetooth board, which is built into it, is compatible. I just got the Bluetooth dongle to be able to reproduce that particular use-case^^
@dan_76
Жыл бұрын
@@Boojakascha Never heard of Lichtknarre before this video. Looks interesting - thanks!
@Boojakascha
Жыл бұрын
@@dan_76 I covered it briefly in episode 243 :) kzitem.info/news/bejne/moueu5iHrYWdnm0
@WingburenArcade
Жыл бұрын
Great review as always Sir. Very interesting ❤
@Boojakascha
Жыл бұрын
Why, thank you! Always a pleasure finding you in the comment section, good Sir =)
@jankleks4257
Жыл бұрын
Your videos are getting better and better. I hope that one day you will be able to make a video about playing lightgun games on projectors (at what distance, screen size it is possible, etc.)
@Boojakascha
Жыл бұрын
Thanks a lot! If you like projectors, you might want to check out episode 127 (or 126 & 96 for that matter) =)
@MobileDecay
Жыл бұрын
Damn your experience was way worse than mine. I got the gun and the sight(Which is useless). I did purchase it from Tulsa arcades though. They routed the usb cable properly and haven't given me any sarcastic remarks. The gun however is hard to recommend when other options exist. I also have the sinden and it is a better experience. It's cheaper, has recoil, and better software support.
@Boojakascha
Жыл бұрын
Wow. Do you have a heel button on the grip? Or just a big hole? In their own advertisement video the cable is routed as mine is: kzitem.info/news/bejne/mpiOzJmMipmoa5g
@MobileDecay
Жыл бұрын
@@Boojakascha Just a big hole unfortunately.
@Boojakascha
Жыл бұрын
@@MobileDecay What a pity :( I really like heel buttons^^ If the gun was less bad, I would add a button myself and redundantly map to right click with a wire.
@PalkosHorrorCollection
Жыл бұрын
Had one of these for a few weeks & ended up selling it on eBay. Definitely not the worst I've tried, but not something I'd feel comfortable having on my permanent setup.
@Boojakascha
Жыл бұрын
If enough distance is given and hence the rolling issue doesn't appear, it's about on par with the Nintendo Wii, played on a laggy LCD screen. Albeit not sounding nice nowadays, this was a acceptable to many people back in the days.
@PalkosHorrorCollection
Жыл бұрын
@@Boojakascha Agreed. Your review was spot on. Wish there was info like this before all of the hype last year.
@Boojakascha
Жыл бұрын
@@PalkosHorrorCollection Thank you, kind Sir! Agreed, needlessly positive reviews are super frustrating and in the long term help nobody involved :(
@KimSamaVideos
Жыл бұрын
I do remember when their first batch came out they had these small IR sensor PCB's, you get either 2 or 4 or them. Then they cheaped out and starting using third party wireless Wii sensor bars, not so professional
@Boojakascha
Жыл бұрын
I wonder whether the first batch had a different firmware. The button mapping was different too: middle click and calibration was swapped (according to the UK reseller).
@KimSamaVideos
Жыл бұрын
@@Boojakascha They were swapped
@Boojakascha
Жыл бұрын
@@KimSamaVideos I see, thank you for the information :D
@tedcrilly1
Жыл бұрын
I finally ordered a Sinden yesterday. Apparently plug & play with Botocera?
@Boojakascha
Жыл бұрын
Unfortunately I don't know by heart. But I am sure you can use it with Botocera somehow. The Sinden community is welcoming and knowledgeful. They can help you on Discord and such, if problems arise. I am sure you will love it =)
@infernogott
Жыл бұрын
Yes, it is :)
@tedcrilly1
Жыл бұрын
@@infernogott Nice!
@tedcrilly1
Жыл бұрын
@@Boojakascha To this day, it baffles me why Namco/Sega don't release a small home Lightgun console? It would sell so well. download only the games you want etc.
@Boojakascha
Жыл бұрын
@@tedcrilly1 That would be super awesome =) But then again, they let GunCon 3 die, and haven't portent any of their more recent games to any system :(
@wallmachine8780
Жыл бұрын
just paying a visit, no pun intended
@Boojakascha
Жыл бұрын
XD
@necronomitom
11 ай бұрын
I like to imagine you have a light gun version of that wall of guns the married couple had in the movie Tremors. Also would be nice if you listed which platform the controllers are for in your video titles.
@Boojakascha
11 ай бұрын
Maybe I have ;) Concerning the titles: I thought about it earlier. The problem is that with the "Light Gun Reviews XXX" portion it would get too long. But that very section is nice for searchability and helps to have it being recognizable. I wanted to shorten it to LGR but that acronym is taken :D
@lizmono754
Жыл бұрын
hey i wanted to add a bit immersion to call of duty and i was wondering if you knew any gamepad that is shaped like a submachine gun that would function with joysticks like a normal controller or a vertical mouse that would feel more like if you were pulling a trigger instead of pushing a button
@lizmono754
Жыл бұрын
controller like the storm light you revieved but not shit quality, i mean it shouldnt be that hard to split a controller in half and put these 2 parts to a gun base and submachine because i feel like if i got some bigass gun it would cover my view
@Boojakascha
Жыл бұрын
There were sub machine gun gyro controllers. Three of them were made by G-mate. I suggest to have a look at those =)
@blackvulcan3
Жыл бұрын
It’s a shame. I waited a year for mine and yes I fell for the promises. I finally received it and the build quality was not great but it’s the accuracy, the whole reason I was sold on the gun, just isn’t there. It’s better than a wiimote but not by much.
@Boojakascha
Жыл бұрын
Indeed. It's a bit insane to claim superiority over other two reference points system, when (of course) the technology itself it flawed. Their superiority claims are as old as their gyro controller roots which makes the situation even less pretty.
@secretysecret1551
Жыл бұрын
Unfortunately I have to agree with Boojaska here. The quality is really poor. Mine had all sort of quality issues. Further, AE very much follows the motto of "over promise, and under deliver". They are terrible to deal with. However, negatives aside, I like them better than Sinden. But Gun4IR is still a million times better than either one of those two.
@secretysecret1551
Жыл бұрын
...also similarly, my original order was cancelled and I only received a partial refund. AE is pretty scummy
@Boojakascha
Жыл бұрын
It's very unfortunate indeed. My hope is that it will become a collector's item some day. Much like the ZX Spectrum Vega+ made by Retro Computers Ltd
@Pippy45
Жыл бұрын
I got two even though I ordered one and a pedal....he sent two then told me the pedals weren't ready yet allthough no one speaks about this.The guns were utterly useless and I ended up getting into it with a few people on you tube which I really don't like doing.It had been that long waiting that I couldn't even claim back on PayPal anymore.Terrible experience.I'm now using gun4ir and I couldn't be happier with it.
@Boojakascha
Жыл бұрын
I am sorry to hear that! You could try to sell them, because the AE Lightguns are rare and sought after, regardless their mediocre performence.
@KimSamaVideos
Жыл бұрын
The AE guns uses the same IR camera's you use for GUN4IR so you can use those to make new GUN4IR's
@Boojakascha
Жыл бұрын
@@KimSamaVideos Indeed :) I think you would want to change the buttons for good ones though, when doing the conversion & screw down the PCB to make it stop moving on trigger presses =)
@Odwalla_YT
Жыл бұрын
Great review! Bummer to hear how messy the whole story was, I was totally unaware. Such a waste of what otherwise looked like nice, subtle and practical design.
@Boojakascha
Жыл бұрын
Thank you, Odwalla =) Ha, then it was worth making the video all the more :P I agree. I wish Arcade Europe would have stuck to the gyro design. I mean I adore Aidus for doing that. They know it won't be the best tracking controller ever and they don't pretend it was. They cherish their gyro controllers for what they are, with honest success.
@juanwick730
Жыл бұрын
@@Boojakascha Definitely worth warning people about this crap.
@Boojakascha
Жыл бұрын
@@juanwick730 sadly the controller doesn't hold up well :(
@225films5
Жыл бұрын
@Boojakascha i want to build my own light gun and im a big fan of your channel . id like to have a conversation with u on parts and options
@Boojakascha
Жыл бұрын
Thank you. Please do so here. Others can benefit from such information as well.
@225films5
Жыл бұрын
@@Boojakascha ive been building arcade machines since 2012 but ive never dedicated a cabinet to light guns. ive been experimenting around with putting console hardware into arcade form cabinets , but im not sure this is the way to go . should i build a cabinet with crt and get a ps2 (for ps1 and 2 lightgun games)and ps2 lightgun and have to hunt down and buy each game or should i build light gun and just put what games i want on pc in a cabinet with nice flat screen
@225films5
Жыл бұрын
@Boojakascha would it be easier just to build my own lightgun i have basic electronic knowledge i fool with mother boards and pc parts all the time i feel like this cant be that hard . ive did the wii mote thing but i feel theres a better looking option out there than just using a wii remote
@Boojakascha
Жыл бұрын
I think it's a matter of taste. Personally I like consoles and playing in flesh better than emulation. Even if console ports are sometimes inferior. I still like it best :)
@Boojakascha
Жыл бұрын
@@225films5 Do you mean a console or a PC light gun?
@vjose69
Жыл бұрын
Can some tell me the total weight of the light gun with the box I have customer service saying it's weight is two pounds
@Boojakascha
Жыл бұрын
that would be 623 metric grams.
@vjose69
Жыл бұрын
@@Boojakascha thats with the box ?
@Boojakascha
Жыл бұрын
@@vjose69 Box and Wii light bar, yes Sir
@vjose69
Жыл бұрын
I don't get it customer service person create a ups tracking number but doesn't ship it
@Boojakascha
Жыл бұрын
@@vjose69 very unfortunate. I hope they don't scam you too :(
@LightgunLegends
Жыл бұрын
The gun feels great, but useless with cheap Wii sensor bar. The original batch sent out everyone raved about this gun hence my purchase, but an absolute waste of money!! Feel bad to even sell them on 😣
@Boojakascha
Жыл бұрын
I would be very intrigued to know whether the first firmware was so much better, or whether the initial reviewers weren't impartial. I don't see a clear motive as to why driving a working firmware against a brick wall from a manufacturer point of view^^
@LightgunLegends
Жыл бұрын
@@Boojakascha People like DLWANG also a super fan has no issues at all with his gun, so I dont think impartial reviews sir
@Boojakascha
Жыл бұрын
@@LightgunLegends Do you happen to know whether his unit was put together more carefully? Are the buttons consistent and can he press arrow down when pulling the trigger?
@LightgunLegends
Жыл бұрын
@@Boojakascha I'm not sure sir. I see you guys got into a little back and fourth on here🥺 I appreciate his work like I do yours sir. Reach out to him and retro lizard. My second gun I didnt even bother cleaning of the glue strands! That tells you he lost interest, first impressions always with eyes or in my case eye🤣
@Boojakascha
Жыл бұрын
@@LightgunLegends No worries, it's fine to disagree. But it's not what you say, but how you say it^^ From a distance Retro Lizard doesn't seem 100 % pleased to me neither. For a while he looked like the US distribution partner, but it seems that he let go of it and now Tulsa Arcades took over the US market. With "No refunds, no PayPal" as Tulsa puts it.
@iancharles1571
Жыл бұрын
125 euros? This trainwreck isn't even worth 1 US buck!
@Boojakascha
Жыл бұрын
It looks quite neat. For 1 USD it would be a great paper weight =)
@slewis2363
Жыл бұрын
Absolute scam artists
@Boojakascha
Жыл бұрын
very unfortunate :(
@Biighemi
Жыл бұрын
Guess I never cared to get this deep. I have two, side calibration and button in front of trigger. Yes the buttons are not good, but they work… after messing around with Sinden’s I finally went to GUN4IR. Sold Sindens, AE’s still sitting on the shelf…for sale. It is usually the customer experience that kills a product…
@Boojakascha
Жыл бұрын
The calibration button not being at the trigger guard would indicate the initial firmware. Were you experiancing dead zones too? I wonder whether these were introduced later... Also, were the guns shipped with two or four light sources?
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