I forgot to include in the video that an alternative to making custom ABS brackets is that you can just notch the fan housing. I've done this on other installs and it also works well. Here's a pic of another install I did where I notched the fan instead of relocating the ABS unit. www.mdracingkc.com/images/mds_articles/mark8fan/fan3.jpg
@CheesusSVT
Жыл бұрын
Wow, very cool to see this done. You are a super resourceful and smart guy. That ABS clearance issue/bracket modification will help so many others.
@MalcolmV8
Жыл бұрын
Thanks, I hope it does help a lot of guys, I've received a lot of Mark VIII fan questions over the years and figured this would give some insight.
@Wings65288
Жыл бұрын
Wonderful video as usual, thanks.
@MalcolmV8
Жыл бұрын
Thanks, glad you liked it :)
@scottadkins918
Жыл бұрын
nice video. I will be soon installing a contour fan or mark8 fan into my twin turbo cobra.... I am running a holley hp so looks like I may need a nput/output module for all these nice upgrades.
@MalcolmV8
Жыл бұрын
It’s so worth using up an output to regulate the fan. Soft starting and only spinning as fast as you need are such massive improvements. One of my favorites :)
@scottadkins918
Жыл бұрын
@MalcolmV8 for sure. Cheap insurance to keep all that money in a engine happy.
@MalcolmV8
Жыл бұрын
@@scottadkins918 Absolutely. No short cuts on the fuel system or cooling system.
@payloadperformance9706
Жыл бұрын
This is awesome, i installed two Mark VIII fans on my 96 Ram, you can see the video on my channel 😂 these fans pull so much air i can even tow with my truck at max capacity and i have no overheating problems at all!
@waynerodriguez2909
Жыл бұрын
As always great content! Detailed, well explained, and very thorough! Nice job, Malcolm. Certainly going out to the Junk yard to find a M8 fan and speed control module. This is a must in SE Florida. BTW- What year Mark 8 is this fan from? Happy holidays bud! 👍
@MalcolmV8
Жыл бұрын
Thanks Wayne. You need to grab a 1997 or 1998 Mark 8 fan. That’s the two years they had a monster powerful fan in them.
@richarcm
Жыл бұрын
I’ve also got a Mark VIII fan in my 03 Cobra but with a thicker Mishimoto radiator. I was able to make it fit. The problem is the overflow tank no long bolts to the car. Currently I have it zip tied. Which works. But I hate it. I’m hoping to find a better tank setup that might work. I like the consolidated tank but it doesn’t look like it holds enough fluid.
@MalcolmV8
Жыл бұрын
You could do a much smaller tank like I did on the zinc and mount it off to the drivers side maybe to get the clearance you need.
@jalexs5283
Жыл бұрын
Very nice! I have the same tank. I wish it didnt need to be cut and welded for the Mark 8 fan to fit otherwise I would be doing this. What alternatives do us Cobra guys have for replacement fan (besides this obviously) since they dont make them anymore?
@MalcolmV8
Жыл бұрын
Probably the only other one I'd consider is the dual contour fan setup. They are also super impressive and can be purchased brand new still, or at least aftermarket copies. Not as powerful as the Mark VIII but still incredible.
@jalexs5283
Жыл бұрын
@@MalcolmV8 Any modifying needed for that one to fit?
@MalcolmV8
Жыл бұрын
@@jalexs5283 I'm not 100% sure into a Terminator. We usually install the Contour fans into our Foxes and the Mark VIII into the Terminators. I might do a contour fan in a Terminator next time just to see.
@jalexs5283
Жыл бұрын
@@MalcolmV8 That would be awesome!
@orlandoperez3006
Ай бұрын
Can you install some sort of fan control with a Direct wire for us just turn on guys
@MalcolmV8
Ай бұрын
I'm sure you could do old school relay and switch or something if you were wanting too.
@lukebronstein9617
Ай бұрын
what pwm controller did you use?
@MalcolmV8
Ай бұрын
Ford Fusion. FUSION 07-10 Cooling Fan; (ID 6E53-8C609-AA)
@dvinpeace
4 ай бұрын
Hi, great content by the way! Thank you. Can I hook up a soft start to stage one??? On 1994 Mustang GT
@MalcolmV8
4 ай бұрын
No unfortunately not. That stage 1 is the most simplistic way of just getting the wiring to work and will not soft start.
@dvinpeace
4 ай бұрын
So with the 94 Mustang GT. It's a plug and play. Cause I believe everything is the same as far as wiring goes. Already have the fans to come on earlier than stock in the tune.
@dvinpeace
4 ай бұрын
And if I choose to do stage 3, how do I hook up the fusion controller to the stock ECU
@dvinpeace
4 ай бұрын
On the stock ECU, where does the pulse fan signal you mentioned hook up too?
@MalcolmV8
4 ай бұрын
@@dvinpeace the stock ECU cannot provide the PWM signal required to drive the Fusion controller. You need to add your own PWM signal generator. For those that tinker in electronics the choice is the Arduino. For those that don't I've heard people buy cheap little PWM generators off Amazon and wire them up to drive the Fusion controller to get the soft start.
@TT-vy8oe
8 ай бұрын
Great video! Can this work on a fox body?
@MalcolmV8
8 ай бұрын
With a little work yes. We’ve mocked one up on a fox but never actually installed it. We went the dual contour fan route which was such a nice fit. There are videos of it in the channel too. Check it out.
@TT-vy8oe
8 ай бұрын
@@MalcolmV8 thanks for the reply, yeah I did the dual but used 2 11 blade focus fan just bought 2 fans and swapped a 5 blade for the 11 so I have 2 11 blades on a focus fan and used a Mazda 6 fan controller so it has a soft start for less amp draw, but ur mark VIII setup seam to move a ton of air, in ur opinion what fan controller could I use to make the MARK VIII work? I would like to try it to see if it cools better, my set up does a good job but I think the MARK VIII moves about 4500 CFM ur thoughts would greatly appreciated! Thanks for the great work! Modding for life!
@screamineaton
Жыл бұрын
Let's talk about the zinc car. What thermostat housing is that? I can't wrap my head around the coolant crossover delete and keeping the thermostat on the lower hose. Goes against what I thought was right. The thermostat controls radiator temp more so than engine temp. So does that mean you want a cooler Stat if it stays in the lower hose?
@MalcolmV8
Жыл бұрын
It's an old MMR housing that is no longer made but they make a different one now days as do many places. Although I deleted the factory bypass there is still a custom bypass I installed, it's just hidden for a clean look. My thermostat is in the upper hose and right at the thermostat housing is a bypass hose that exits on the underside and goes down and under the radiator over to the lower radiator hose. The bypass is important, it relieves pressure and also allows coolant circulation and flow avoiding hot spots while the thermostat is closed.
@CobraCurt
Жыл бұрын
Great Video, I have question. I have a 03 Terminator with the stock cooling fan and I want to install a Mark8 fan. I would like to use the stock ccrm as the trigger for a Fusion soft start or pulse modulated input to the Mark 8 fan. I have the stock PCM in the car and would look to do the cooling fan upgrade in a cost effective way. I don't want to run all the current of the Mark 8 fan through the stock ccrm if possible. Is there a better way to control the fan speed that I'm missing?
@MalcolmV8
Жыл бұрын
Hi Curt, you could run some heavy wire from the battery to a relay and to the Mark 8 fan. Then have the CCRM simply trigger the relay. That would not run any heavy current through the CCRM as you requested. As for controlling the fan speed on a stock ECU it's not easy unless you're handy with electronics. The Fusion controller will not natively work with the stock ECU. It needs a PWM signal fed to it.
@CobraCurt
Жыл бұрын
@@MalcolmV8 Thanks, I was thinking about a relay as well. I guess I should know better, I was hoping that there was a easy way to get a pulse signal for the fusion module. Thanks for the answer.
@MalcolmV8
Жыл бұрын
@@CobraCurt No problem. Good luck with your project.
@racequad9
Жыл бұрын
Darn, I was all for this until you got to the part where you had to cut and weld the aftermarket radiator. What do terminator guys have for options if they want to buy new? Or did Ford stop making these completely?
@MalcolmV8
Жыл бұрын
I'm assuming you mean the expansion tank? I did not have to cut the radiator. The expansion tank was aftermarket and didn't fit well. If you have a stock expansion tank it fits just fine, or perhaps various other aftermarket expansion tanks would fit. There is no standard to them. Each manufacture just makes their own expansion tanks how ever they want. This one was a Moroso for reference.
@racequad9
Жыл бұрын
@@MalcolmV8 Sorry, yes. I meant the expansion tank.
@MalcolmV8
Жыл бұрын
@@racequad9 Such a large number of people swap out the stock one I'm sure you could find a used stock one if needed. Or if getting aftermarket don't get Moroso as I have confirmed it does not clear. Perhaps other brands will clear.
@slowcobra9263
Жыл бұрын
Where can i get the plastic thing that covers air filter. What is it called and who makes it? I imagine it helps alot with the intake air temps
@MalcolmV8
Жыл бұрын
Yes it helps. I couldn’t find one big enough for my filter so what you see on the zinc is a very old JLT filter cover I had to heat up and flex and adjust to my huge filter.
@slowcobra9263
Жыл бұрын
@@MalcolmV8 Thank you sir
@JCDriller
Жыл бұрын
Malcom as always love the vids. Is this the proper controller for the fan???? Ford part number : 6e53-8c609-aa I’m interested in running this but need more info on building the circuit for a OEM computer system.
@MalcolmV8
Жыл бұрын
Thank you. The part # on the controllers I have is 6E53-8C609-AA. To run with the OEM computer is going to require some electronic skills. You'd need to build an Arduino based circuit that can read in the coolant temp and then drive the controller with a PWM signal. If you're not into electronics it would be a real struggle. Alternatively you could likely use a cheap $15 PWM signal generator from Amazon to drive it. You wouldn't be able to have the fan vary the speed based on temp but you'd at least get the advantage of the soft start.
@6LCobraR
Жыл бұрын
Just curious if you attempted different fans. Like a gt500 or even the twin raptor fans?
@MalcolmV8
Жыл бұрын
No. I just went straight to the most powerful fan that would fit. It was for the longest time the most powerful fan Ford made. The new F150 dual fan setups are more powerful but the motors are so big they wouldn’t even remotely fit.
@6LCobraR
Жыл бұрын
@@MalcolmV8 Thanks for the response. Great content on your channel.
@MalcolmV8
Жыл бұрын
@@6LCobraR no problem and thank you :)
@DMANN007
Жыл бұрын
Is there a ford part number to the fan?
@MalcolmV8
Жыл бұрын
I forget the Ford Part # and would need to dig around but you want to grab one from a 1997 or 1998 Mark 8. Those are the only two years it had the really monster cooling fan.
@yaviermustang2012
Жыл бұрын
what years can i get the fan for the mark 8 ???
@MalcolmV8
Жыл бұрын
97 & 98 are the two really powerful fan years.
@richardcetz7994
Жыл бұрын
Hi I have a question I'm running a mark 8 fan in my 98 cobra but would like to put a fusion speed controller on it but I don't have a stand alone . I'm working with the stock ecu I only have a sct tuner for my procharger. Can I still be able to hook up the controller. If yes can you tell me how?
@MalcolmV8
Жыл бұрын
No unfortunately not. If you’re handy with electronics you could build your own PWM signal generator which changed frequency based on coolant temp and that would do it. Or you’d need a stand alone to do it for you.
@richardcetz7994
Жыл бұрын
@MalcolmV8 and if I get a stand alone I'll have to retune my car because I'm procharged and running E85. And do you know a good standalone?
@MalcolmV8
Жыл бұрын
Yes you’ll need a new tune. The MS3Pro is a very nice unit.
@richardcetz7994
Жыл бұрын
Hi Malcom will a pwm controller from Amazon work ? I just don't know were to contact the pulse wire from the fusion controller
@MalcolmV8
Жыл бұрын
@@richardcetz7994 if you can find one that will adjust the PWM duty cycle based on a temperature input. Otherwise it would just run the fan at one constant speed.
@MrSpdjunky
Жыл бұрын
How hot was the redfire running
@MalcolmV8
Жыл бұрын
It had a ton of issues so it would spike to 240. Most the time I could catch it and shutdown by 230. That was in the hottest of mid summer heat.
@MrSpdjunky
Жыл бұрын
What did the fan bring the Temps down too?
@MalcolmV8
Жыл бұрын
Runs mid to upper 190s to 200 in mid summer heat. The zinc runs mid to upper 180s with the same fan but possibly because it has an aluminum block shedding heat too?
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