Great review! You‘re one of the best reviewers on Yt. Hope you’re getting more subs. and get access to more components.
@andycrook6508
3 жыл бұрын
Absolutely agree. A natural.
@divadgnol67
3 жыл бұрын
Awesome video as always. I appreciate the fact that you do comparisons as well as subjective and objective information.
@vitorfragoso7355
Жыл бұрын
Saw your video two days ago. Liked and subscribed. Meanwhile I just received the Limetree bridge ii, connected to Accuphase e380 via DAC matrix x-sabre pro. I'm delighted and, by the way, no problems with the app, very simple and seems to work quite well. The sound on my system is better than CD, but this will probably have to do with the CD player, a Marantz CD6006... I appreciate your way of reviewing, very clear and frank. Congrats!
@rkisoensingh
3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the review. I have the Lindemann Bridge, it replaced my Allo DigiOne with a RPi3B with Volumio. The Bridge is connected via coax to the Schiit Bifrost 2, and this DAC is connected via a pair of XLR Balanced cables to a Yamaha A-S2200. I like the Lindemann Bridge a lot better then the Allo DigiOne/Rpi3B/Volumio combination, since I found Volumio had a 'lag' in the Android app a lot, it wasn't as responsive as for example BluOS. De Lindemann Android app works fine in that sense, it's responsive, intuitively logic, except indeed the refresh of the screen after you pick your phone up again a bit later, so indeed that is frustrating. Feels like a bug, but there hasn't been an software update for a while now :( Another thing I don't like about the app, I can't add different songs or a next album to the current playlist. The app is Album focused, so your current playing album is all that will be playing, no 'play after this album' or 'play after this song' option. Furthermore, there is a Lindemann Bridge II out now, but looking at the changed specs, I don't think it's a big change for the Bridge. I hope Lindemann keeps working on the app. I have Tidal, although I realize that MQA is BS, so I don't mind at all that the Bridge can't handle MQA. But I would hope that the Bridge will support Tidal Connect in the near future, since it does support Spotify Connect, which works really great. But it's really unclear if they are planning to support Tidal Connect at all, I surely hope so! If Lindemann is reading this; please fix the forced refreshing of the pages and please add "add to current playlist" options! And add Tidal Connect! One last thing, it does support airable radio stations (and airable podcasts), including Radio Paradise, so that's also a good thing.
@morespinach9832
3 жыл бұрын
They said they're adding TIdal Connect in the next firmware. Not sure when that is.
@archonblaze
11 ай бұрын
Your sound quality assessment is spot on. I have the Bridge II, outputing to a DAC. Version 2 now passes the music at native rez (up to 192) and upsampling SRC can be turned off. It sounds better than the RPi or Bluesound Node. But add a price appropriate LPS like the Farad Super 3, and it sounds far far better. That does bring total price up to 1300 euro, but its worth it if you can afford. Perceived value of this Limetree range is low because its just a little box, but its the sound quality that counts. The Lindemann app has had major updates since this review was done and is now one of the best apps in the industry. Its also rock solid in stability. Their app also sounds better than Roon and MConnect by a fair margin. JPlay app is also very good sounding, but still not as good as native Lindemann app. iiWi you should try and review the Bridge II or Network II, Lindemann may be up for it as you review many things in that price bracket.
@johnh539
4 ай бұрын
thanks for the updates esp the interface. I am looking for a steamer right now.
@neogenzim1995
3 жыл бұрын
your presentation is excellent. you don't take yourself too seriously, and you're very frank in giving opinions. structure of video is also excellent. kudos, and subscribed
@rogerpoulussen6927
2 жыл бұрын
I was lucky to get my Limetree Bridge only 3 months old for €350. I don't know why the seller sold it so cheaply, but I'm very happy with it. For the paid €350 it was the bargain of the century for me. Before I had a Logitech Squeezebox Touch connected to a YBA WD202 DAC which was sounding nice. But when Logitech stopped support and third party apps were really horrific. The Squeezebox got "unemployed" Now I'm very happy with my Limetree Bridge, in combination with one of my DACs. Most of the time it's connected to a Topping D90 SE DAC, but when I want to have a more analogue sound, I switch to a Denafrips Ares II. These combo's sound way better, more spatial, airy and musical than the Touch with the YBA Both my set ups can compare with streamers twice or triple the amount of money spent. As for the Lindemann app, I have no troubles what so ever using it. That means I don't have the issue of missing lines or not being able to get back to the album I was playing after my phone went into sleep mode. Neither with my Samsung Galaxy S10 nor my new Samsung Galaxy S22 Ultra
@peterahlberg6512
Жыл бұрын
Excellent review! Appriciate that you not only cover the connectivity and sound quality, but also that you share your experience with the app, which to me is almost as important as the sound quality.
@iikatinggangsengii2471
9 ай бұрын
yeah its the biggest 'bottleneck' for dacs actually, its also why apples more preferable by pros
@iikatinggangsengii2471
9 ай бұрын
dap bypasses this bottleneck by researching their own
@riccitone
3 жыл бұрын
Excellent review! Super comprehensive and helpful. I’m in the EXACT same boat (also use an allo digione). Thank you so much for handling this range of streamers - my budget is also currently at a low point)…please keep searching and thank you! 🙏🏼👍🏼
@2HatHudders
2 жыл бұрын
Ha, so am I! Rather use an old phone/iPad than spend 150 on a raspberry pi streamer. Apperently the hifi zen is supposed to be very good. Audio excellence in Canda compared it to the bluesound node and they thought the hifi zen was much better for streaming.
@PanKraken
3 жыл бұрын
I started watching you after RPi review. Thanks to you, I am happy owner of mine Raspberry. In most of cases my way of thinking is exactly the same as yours. Thank You very much! Oh, and in the part with application review, you soud like QA tester!
@eleftheriospadeloglou6596
3 жыл бұрын
You are one of the best reviewers
@RedTTHayo
3 жыл бұрын
I really like you reviews and your honesty. Atm i only trust your evaluations. I am wishing your financial position will improve , so tou can review more expensive gear. I would love to hear your opinion on reclockers. Would a good reclocker + cheap streaming device be the ultimate solution, regarding sound quality?
@sathishchandran8535
3 жыл бұрын
Great review..!!! Please continue reviewing more Value for Money products.
@Scotty8399
3 жыл бұрын
Hi, this is one of my favourite hifi review channels. I bought the stack audio link 2 streamer in the same price bracket and would be interested to know how it compares.
@edverbeek6292
3 жыл бұрын
Great review, as always. A cheaper alternative, better than allo digione signature is the PI2AES hat for raspberry pi.
@iiWiReviews
3 жыл бұрын
I hope to try Pi2AES soon, if it's as good as its reputation it will be great.
@pegun
3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the review and comparison with Allo Digione. Like you, I'm more comfortable with Allo Digione budget range of streamer.
@steven2809
3 жыл бұрын
I’ve tried many different streamers from RPi +HiFi berry HAT to SOTM Neo to Yamaha streamer…..and the device I ended up with to get the best sound is a second hand Mac Mini running Audirvana! You should definitely try it…..👍
@monochromios
3 жыл бұрын
About the problem with the app you have to go to settings and set "prevent the screen to turn off". It's a problem that happens with some Android phones with UAPP too. Check it and let me know please. For the streamer I recently moved to a Innuos Zen Mini MK3 with separate LPSU using its internal DAC from my Raspberry Pi4. It sounds better? Yes, definitely. It sounds so good to justify the price? No.Better equipment gives you better sound with a lot of different shades and finesses but never makes night and day IMO. I had the change to buy the Innuos for a good price and I got it but Raspberry will not go on retirement. It's a Roon end point now and it will continue its service for less critical listening on my first floor audio zone: relaxed listening on my couch. Thank you for sharing.
@iiWiReviews
3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing your experience... I'll pass this comment to the owner, it might help him. Cheers!
@SmokeyMesa
3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for another great review. The ui experience is key to me. When I heard volumio has Tidal Connect I ordered a USBRIDGE. I can always add the Spdif board later and maybe get better sound at the expense of MQA support. I haven't tried Qobuz, but without something like the Connect ui I'm not that interested. Maybe I'll get Spotify when they upgrade to lossless.
@davelaidlaw3795
3 жыл бұрын
Good video- Good luck with your subscriptions!😉
@jos5067
Жыл бұрын
I wish you could get your hand on bridge 2 for a review.
@justasimplefox
3 жыл бұрын
I have the Limetree Network (with build in DAC) now for a few days and have the same experience. Everything sounds so energetic and detailed, also the bass before was also a little dull in my system and is now much better. The sound is very open, big and dynamic and this with such a small device 🤪 I use it with the Allo Nirvana power supply and this works perfect. I had the exact same feeling about the high price but Lindemann has just released version II so you can buy the 'old' versions now for a better price, in Europe 650/750 ( Bridge/Network) must be possible. I found the Network with 2x AK4452 a better deal then the Bridge but you have the Ares DAC already 😉 (ps before I used the Advance Paris WTX Streampro)
@bossybill7437
3 жыл бұрын
I find your guesstimates about sound quality very informative... Have you come across the HiFiBerry line of Raspberry Pi HATs? Another reviewer put their DAC2 HD unit (with the iFi iPower power supply) in the 'entry level reference' category but I don't have any idea to how it compares to the Allo range of products.
@andrewaldridge4260
2 жыл бұрын
So how about the ifi zen stream, and bluesound node (as streamer) both cost less than the Lindemann. I personally us a SOtM sms-200 which sounds great but it's accompanying software is very out of date so I'm looking for something better to feed my Mytek Brooklyn DAC+. Like you I'm put off by the high price of the Limetree Bridge. Thanks for the videos.
@NeilBlanchard
3 жыл бұрын
It generally seems to me that if you can avoid resampling up or down - you should. The source has only the information that is encoded - resampling it can only add possible changes, and it can't "restore" any information that isn't already there.
@louisbotes337
Жыл бұрын
Hi I would suggest you try to get access to a Primare np5 streamer to review.there is a new model on the market and I got hold of the prevous model for $ 400 us new and what an excelent product. It improved the sound from my Denefripps ares ii by a lot. Thanks for your reviews keep it up.
@rkisoensingh
3 жыл бұрын
Did you compare the Allo Shanti lps vs the stock switching power supply? Would love to hear your thoughts about this.
@mtiken
3 жыл бұрын
Waiting for IOTAVX NP3. Please review that one too. Waiting with lots of expectations.
@rajivjoshi5714
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the review. Do you plan to review the SMSL SD-9 network streamer? I would be curious about how you rate this device (well, not the MQA part since it does not impress you, but otherwise). I purchased the SMSL SU-9 DAC based on your review, it was worth the price. The new SD-9 network streamer would resonate well with this DAC. My other choice for a streamer would be the Bluesound Node, which is a bit expensive. There are no reviews currently comparing good European mid-range streamers with good Chinese products like SMSL..
@johnh539
3 ай бұрын
Question? My DAC can handle the highest bit rates . Do you tie the DAC's clock to the Limetree's clock or do you stick to the DAC's internal clock? PS I have the same los of access to the music playing interface as you when I Chromecast YT Music to my Wiim. A happy subscriber. All the best.
@kobush18
3 жыл бұрын
great review the only thing that does not make sense is the audio difference between mconnecct and limetree own app. as i understand the audio stream does not go thru any app (mconnecct or limtree)nor processed by them and doesnt diverted to the phone in any way. they act as virtual remote commander that tell tidal server to which ip address to send the music file(track). the only thing that limetree app should do is to tell its device to be in maximum bitrate,and that should be made once,than the device remember your selection(thats at least how it should work) but i am not absolute sure thats how its done.
@iiWiReviews
3 жыл бұрын
I'm surprised too but the owner of the device has confirmed that finding... He also hears it and considers the Lindemann app as a better sounding one. It's a very similar situation when using Roon. Most users I talked with noticed sound differences but in that case mconnect sounds slightly better than Roon. Again, I'm no software expert and have no idea why is this happening, but when 8 of 10 people come to similar conclusion independently (talking about Roon here) I'm sure it's rear and not imagined.
@nickburak7518
3 жыл бұрын
You mentioned that you don't know why the Limebridge down-samples a higher res file if the output is set below that resolution. Hans Beekhyuzen points out why in the opening of his video on this product, which he did a year ago. The reason he says is for older DACS that cannot handle high bit rate files, cannot up or down sample or cannot handle DSD files. He gave another reason but you can see for yourself. New to your channel (yesterday), and appreciate them.
@zoranjovancic9816
4 ай бұрын
Great review and thanks again Which one will you surely go for as a pure stream bridge between Lindemann,ifi zen stream or primare Prisma np5
@iiWiReviews
4 ай бұрын
Take a look at Wiim pro streamer. These days it offers everything these do sonically, it's even richer with software features, and saves you money.
@gregwx
3 жыл бұрын
No doubt on your veredict on its sound performance, but at that price... I will go for a Mac Mini, you get more funtionality for te same price. I have see some audioeng use it due M1 lower noiser electronis and without monitos with an app that transmits desktop via wifi.
@yogiwp_
3 жыл бұрын
My D70s supports MQA but I set my Tidal to not use it. Did some tests but didn't care for it. Really don't appreciate paying extra for that lossy nonsense. Just give me uncompressed CD-quality. Will be switching to Spotify HiFi once it's available.
@StellarAudyssey
3 жыл бұрын
Apparently, Apple Music will be doing CD Quality and HiRes, for the same fee they charge now.
@steven2809
3 жыл бұрын
@@StellarAudyssey And Amazon Music no longer charge any extra for Hi-res music 🙂
@StellarAudyssey
3 жыл бұрын
@@steven2809 The thing with Amazon Music is their Desktop applications don't have a properly functioning Exclusive Mode (bit perfect).
@steven2809
3 жыл бұрын
@@StellarAudyssey Correct. They do have exclusive mode but output is resampled to whatever limit you have set in your OS. Personally I’m not worried as I have everything upsampled to 24/192 and it sounds excellent 👍
@StellarAudyssey
3 жыл бұрын
@@steven2809 Hopefully they fix that by the time HD arrives in Aus.. Also, do they have music videos like Tidal?
@charleskatz2606
Жыл бұрын
Why not try the Blusound Node?I intend to chip in 420 for whatever you decide
@Burevestnik9M730
3 жыл бұрын
What software plays inside it? MPD? HPQPlayer? Squeezelite? Roon-ready? Propriatery?
@jonbrodie1442
3 жыл бұрын
saw it priced for $920 USD on cruxaudio
@BrucieDC
3 жыл бұрын
sir I have the cheapo sr850 samson, I'm using it directly in my CPU. If I use a DAC like a FX dac X6, will the sound signature of my headphone change?
@stephenbailey9969
3 жыл бұрын
Wise choice. By the time you are prepared to pay significantly more, the technology will have also improved and you will get more bang for the buck.
@17cream
3 жыл бұрын
I’m puzzled. Maybe an obvious answer, but how can a digital source vary in quality? I get it with the DAC but not with a digital source.
@myu4039
3 жыл бұрын
Digital sources for sure sound different. It's in how the circuit is implemented to lower jitter and other digital artifacts/distortion or not.
@17cream
3 жыл бұрын
@@myu4039 😊 ok... struggling here. So jitter can originate from the digital source. Would like to compare digital sources to see how big a difference this makes 🤔
@myu4039
3 жыл бұрын
@@17cream kzitem.info/news/bejne/yKiw1aV7m2R8gKA Check out his other vids about digital audio
@17cream
3 жыл бұрын
@@myu4039 Thank You
@MultiRalvarado
2 жыл бұрын
Good review as usual. Not like that ugly expensive box.
@Anand.Asrani
3 жыл бұрын
fabulous !
@TheFifaFootballChannel
2 жыл бұрын
Surely a network bridge is only as good as the Dac you use. The DAC does most of the work. What about Dsd files? You don’t mention those.
@pfcompany885
2 жыл бұрын
Have you listened to Sonore streamers?
@jules153
3 жыл бұрын
Nice review and I'm sure it sound great... But Amir and the guys at Audio Science Review say that digital is digital (1s and zeros) and that this shouldn't sound any better than a Chromecast Audio.....
@iiWiReviews
3 жыл бұрын
I won't talk about ASR and their misguided "science" but I clearly disagree with it. Also, I'll add a sound demo of two digital streamers soon so everyone can hear for themselves if they sound the same or not.
@jules153
3 жыл бұрын
@@iiWiReviews excellent! looking forward to hearing the comparison :)
@mawe6628
3 жыл бұрын
Well, this guy (ASR) is just talking so much b....hit. Measurements are static approaches. Music streamed as digital data’s are finally modulating power (current and voltages) in the converters and DAC‘s and I have not seen a measuring device, that can by any means measure a fully modulating signal across the whole frequency range. Can not understand, why so many people follow his channel.
@bopro76
3 жыл бұрын
@@iiWiReviews, I guess that his measurements wouldn't see the difference between a class D and a tube amp...
@ralfm3710
3 жыл бұрын
@@mawe6628 Because Amir's statements are objective and not subjective...
@goodsound4756
3 жыл бұрын
The law of diminishing return.
@xyphoto
3 жыл бұрын
Great review! Does it play single flac file+cue sheet, or SACD iso files, from an attached USB hard disk? Would be nice to see you review the SOtM sMS-200 Neo, a $450 streamer. Keep up the good work!
@frittfrall3220
3 жыл бұрын
Yes it does. It plays pretty much anything you could throw at it.
@benoitdugas745
3 жыл бұрын
would you know how the streamer would compare to the Bluesound node 2i ?
@iiWiReviews
3 жыл бұрын
I never heard Node 2i myself but I can only pass the impression of a friend. He told me that he preferred the sound of Allo DigiOne and especially DigiOne Signature to Node 2i... He sold his 2i and started using DigiOne Signature. On my side, I consider this streamer more capable than both DigiOnes so I can only conclude it's also better than Node 2i. But again, I trust his ears but I have never tested Bluesound in my own system.
@benoitdugas745
3 жыл бұрын
@@iiWiReviews thank you for the answer greatly appriciated as always great Reviews!!!
@daverombouts2116
3 жыл бұрын
Nice review thanks,got one second hand 😄😅
@morespinach9832
2 жыл бұрын
I used to be on Node 2i. Their dumb networking issues aside, Limetree is a MUCH better sound. More resolving, and a bigger sound stage. Plus the bass is even sharper. It's a worthy upgrade, and still half of Lumin UI Mini etc. I've tried Lumin too and the streamer didn't make as much of a difference as the DAC did -- I went from Node 2i and Schiit Modius to first Limetree bridge and Modius (much better, audibly). Then I went to Limetree Bridge and RME ADI2 (wow, whole different world). So the DAC makes a bigger difference. Node 2i is an OK starter kit, but it's nowhere near hifi.
@dilbyjones
3 жыл бұрын
Woot
@vangelo2252
3 жыл бұрын
You dont mention Lindemann is a German company with their heads up their own asses.....I guess you have never communicated with them. You hit the nail on the head with crap app. It also refuses to change to portrait/landscape mode ignoring phone sensors.....either / or. Then I finally managed to install it in Landscape mode....dont ask me how....and now wont install in portrait mode. The other issue is if file name does not fit on the line within screen, portrait or landscape, it keeps scrolling horizontally, so you cant see the name of the track until it rolls around again. So annoying, but they refuse to fix. Like you pointed out, the app does not always return to screen you left it at....but used to be a lot worse. It would default to home page every time after a minute so you would have to start navigation all over again. There is amperage limit on what the USB will power....so large motorised Hard Drives are out. I am still waiting for firmware update. I only have 2 modes.....not that I use them....always keep in highest upsampling mode. Only thing Lindemann has going for it is sublime sound. Like you, a friend brought his over and it trounced my Raspberry set up, I had to have it. Lucky, I managed to find a second hand unit so was spared full cost, which is hard to justify. If you think the Bridge is expensive, have a look at their Source! Enjoy your reviews and your style. Refreshing. Keep it up! PS...Bridge benefits for high quality power supply rather than supplied wall wart. I am using Temple Audio Supercaps
@oscarmarfori613
2 жыл бұрын
You are already have alot budget killing equipments in your arsenal and it’s evidently shown in video backgrounds, I don’t believe it that you will not buy that limetree to include in your system
@iiWiReviews
2 жыл бұрын
I didn't eventually because of Pi2AES and Zen Stream that offer the same level of sound quality at lower price point. But you're right, I probably would if those options weren't available. 😊
@markcarrington8565
3 жыл бұрын
Great video again, well done! You are in the awful position of hearing equipment that is better than your own and not being able to own it! It’s impossible to say how much better one component is over another and by focusing on the supposed ratio of quality versus price, you are on the slippery slope to moaning about manufacturers making equipment that is only a bit better but many times the price. I think you have just proved that, it’s not the price of the dac that’s the problem, it is the affordability to you personally.
@Gadgetdad007
3 жыл бұрын
Are you from Romania ?
@iiWiReviews
3 жыл бұрын
Close... From Serbia
@Simon-dn9kv
3 жыл бұрын
In his about page it says Serbia.
@Burevestnik9M730
3 жыл бұрын
Ajch postu muntenia dojt?
@chriss8971
3 жыл бұрын
Not really feeling the joy of spending £700 on a device with an app that isn't very good and might not be maintained in a few year.
@ronniefranks4351
3 жыл бұрын
It appears this device doesn’t even have feet on the bottom.
@iiWiReviews
3 жыл бұрын
It has self-adhesive bumpers but the owner uses antivibration feet so he didn't put them on.
@pumaweek169
3 жыл бұрын
another overpriced garage built DIY digital BS which plays the same as any 100$ device but likes to be called high end...spend your money wisely...
@steven2809
3 жыл бұрын
Back to ASR for you then!
@AWEG-qu8bz
3 жыл бұрын
One of the most unnecessary devices I've ever seen. And probably another Raspberry Pi is in there. Another money printing machine from the HiFi Mafia. One has to expose these machinations a lot more. AND.........comes the App from the playsore? If YES google like allqays to know what are your music interest. And for sure whats about your network itself. And the user pays for it. Crazy!
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