Thank you so much for sharing! My friend and I are making plans to leave the US as soon as we're able and Portugal is 1st on our list. Please keep making more videos about your life there! A black woman thriving! We love to see it!❤️
@DrivenSpice
4 жыл бұрын
Thank you. I really appreciate it. Will do!
@pabrownie19
4 жыл бұрын
southern oracle yasss!!
@BellsandJess
4 жыл бұрын
Hey what’s up....you guys should consider the Algarve area. I live in Faro and it’s part of the Algarve region. It’s awesome down here and probably a little cheaper than Lisbon or Porto. I’m American Portuguese and I moved about 7 years ago. I love it.
@allthingsloveone4584
4 жыл бұрын
Also consider Costa Rica, but either way, get out ASAP lol check out the global black girl
@Theresa_A4
4 жыл бұрын
We really do love to see it !!❤️
@korb84
4 жыл бұрын
I used to live in Lisbon for almost 7 years until last year, when I moved to Germany. Rental prices in Lisbon are ridiculously high which sadly don't correspond to local salaries and to the quality of the apartment. You have to remember that only new apartments have a central heating and most houses are really cold and moist from November to March (honestly it is really freezing, I had to change my first flat as quick as possible, because I could't stand it). Public transport is also far from being efficient, many times trains or metro don't work because of strikes or other reasons and living outside Lisbon without a car can be really problematic. Be careful about this "security deposits", I never paid them so high, maximally they were like two-month rent high, and unfortunately it happened twice that I never received them back although I hadn't caused any damage in the apartment. But still I think it was a nice experience living there and Portuguese people are really nice and friendly.
@dforeigner
4 жыл бұрын
You've done the right thing not accepting to pay 7.000€. They were definitelly trying to take advantage of you. A local would never pay more than 2 months upfront.
@DrivenSpice
4 жыл бұрын
Thanks Hugo!
@biancasales7997
4 жыл бұрын
I moved to Portugal by myself as well, 3 years ago first to Lisbon, then lived 1 year in Leiria ended up coming back to Lisbon again. Love this city! Wish you the best.
@DrivenSpice
4 жыл бұрын
That’s so awesome! Thank you for the well wishes.
@gracedegraaf2454
4 жыл бұрын
Hi there! I enjoyed your video. My husband and I lived in Portugal for 18 months. He is from Greece but we have a home in The Netherlands. We loved living there, we lived at a beach town called Santa Cruz. I could relate to everything you mentioned in the video so true. Even with the ups and downs you will experience it is worth it. Anyway life is what happens in all of South Europe enjoy every moment of it!
@DrivenSpice
4 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@filipe.skunk8
4 жыл бұрын
you should have a look at Tavira in the Algarve, you’ll probably prefer living there instead of the big city, plus we have an island 😎.. prices way below 1000€ also.. keep in mind that speaking English instead of Portuguese will automatically raise the price of the properties, searching for the locals with properties instead of agencies will save you a ton of money.
@BlackGirlGreenThumb
4 жыл бұрын
Can you do a video on the things you need to do (like getting a visa etc) before you move to Portugal?
@DrivenSpice
4 жыл бұрын
Yes
@Aritul
4 жыл бұрын
Oh, that would be a great video.
@ivyabordo4683
4 жыл бұрын
Interested in that topic. Just found your channel and I like the content. Thank you for sharing.
@guido69x
4 жыл бұрын
Best tip and advice,never rent an apartment in center of town,those are the most expensive,smal and old! You know Linha de Cascais?In half way Lisbon and Cascais,theres Carcavelos,good beach,great place to chill and the rents,well for the price you rent one room in Lisbon ,you can get an entire house with backyard ;) Center of lisbon is for tourists and students,prices are pathetically higher than anywhere else! Check Lisbon surroundings,like Oeiras,Carcavelos,Parede,S. Pedro do Estoril...
@sophiarose6184
4 жыл бұрын
Be very aware of the ventilation in Portuguese apartments and homes. During the winter, heaters can cause dampness and moisture to accumulate everywhere in the home causing mold. It is a rampant problem in most places of the country, and made me very sick. Good luck 🙏
@robpostell8544
4 жыл бұрын
I’ve watched all of your videos and all caught up. Thanks for sharing all of your travels, experiences & tips. Keep them coming. So informative & great voice.
@DrivenSpice
4 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much!
@c.w6593
4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the apartment tours and tips, would love to see an official tour of the apartment you settle on. Be safe and well :)
@WordzThePoet
4 жыл бұрын
I’m currently looking to leave the US and Portugal is on my list, I asked a group of expats about it and they referred me to you... Thank you for all of this content!!!!
@DrivenSpice
4 жыл бұрын
Awh, thank you! Hope it was helpful.
@kellyphipps2354
4 жыл бұрын
Those prices seem expensive to me - especially just for an apartment. We pay $1050 in mortgage for our 3 bed/2bath in Oregon....hmmmm.....and we really want to move out of the US....thanks for the great videos.
@pedroribeiro4792
4 жыл бұрын
you should really think about going for other cities the price range in these apartments is ridiculous. You will see the 1200-1500 in Porto is like the high end. broaden your search a little because you are being robbed. Porto we have really good public transportation. Great restaurants. Shopping centers and night life. Close to the beach airport is few minutes away . Is close to everything and you pay way less for apartments then Lisbon. Also if you think in moving this way send message and maybe i can help you not getting robbed generally if they can feel people have money they will ask for ludicrous amount of months up front. Common practice is first and last month of rent. Anything over that they are trying to scam you.
@DrivenSpice
4 жыл бұрын
Thank you Pedro. That is kind of you. I agree the prices were way too high. The good news is that they are falling and I’d imagine they will continue to fall.
@IQscan51
4 жыл бұрын
@@DrivenSpice Do they normally ask for 6 months deposit upfront or do you think they're trying to take advantage of you because you're a foreigner? I'm also thinking because you are a foreigner they may not trust you so they want a lot of money upfront. I would love to hear your thoughts on this because the prices and deposit amount seem outrageous.
@dickielarue1451
4 жыл бұрын
@@IQscan51 No they do not...I payed first, last and security just like in the U.S.A. you must research and network to find the best deal...
@andreaharrison7082
4 жыл бұрын
Though not always the case, in Europe landlords sometimes do ask for a 6-12 month deposit. They usually require this from foreigners especially if you’re self employed. Today this practice is not so common. In the France the law changed a few years ago whereby a renter only needs to pay one month rent, one month or two security and one month to the rental agent if you used that service. In Germany the renter must pay a 3 month security deposit plus first month rent. Prior to 2016 in Germany the renter had to pay the rental agent’s (Makler) fee, which was two times the monthly rent in addition to the security deposit & first month’s rent. In 2016 the law was passed that the landlord now pays to Makler fee. However if you’re gainfully employed and you have a good relationship with your bank the bank will put up the security deposit. I’ve lived in both France and Germany and now I’m in Lisbon.
@glennb2026
4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the information; Portugal is one of the countries on my "to look at" list.
@jameyfrank
2 жыл бұрын
Super informative and helpful! Really appreciate your perspective and advice.
@DrivenSpice
2 жыл бұрын
Thank you! So glad it was helpful
@fladaboi8419
4 жыл бұрын
Hi thanks for making these videos. I am from NYC but live in Cali now and thinking about living in another country half of the year and then maybe shift to completely leaving the US. I wanted to know how the day to day living there is and if Portugal is a place worth moving to. I have a few countries I am considering like Uruguay but Portugal has caught my interest. Also it would be great if you could do a Pros and Cons video. Hope you are well amid the pandemic its crazy over here and I hope its less crazy there. Keep doing what you are doing.
@DrivenSpice
4 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much. I’ll be working on content that address those questions coming up soon. Do you have any specific questions I can help answer?
@fladaboi8419
4 жыл бұрын
Driven Spice how easy is it to assimilate there coming from the states? Also how are things there since the pandemic? I know they aren’t back to normal but it seems like your in a better place that the states.
@kylaknight3655
4 жыл бұрын
Wishing you peace & happiness on this new chapter of your life! Seeing your videos reminded me how close we were to living abroad, but settled for a gig that lead to another gig. Anyhow-- Thank you for your channel!! So inspiring!
@DrivenSpice
4 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for the well wishes and support!
@estheticsguru
4 жыл бұрын
I really appreciate all of the information and tips provided in this video!!! I was considering relocating to Ecuador, but I've seen several videos about living in Lisbon that has me rethinking some things!! Thank you!!!
@DrivenSpice
4 жыл бұрын
Awesome! Glad it was helpful.
@kaysha
4 жыл бұрын
Prices were much better when I moved here in 2012 while recession was upon us. I have a great waterfront appartment in Expo with 2 bedrooms for a great value. Maybe the upcoming recession will reset the prices... Wait and see... The pandemic will calm a few of these greedy owners
@DrivenSpice
4 жыл бұрын
I think you’re right. It will be interesting to see where things go as the recession sets in. I’m starting to see some of the prices come down.
@kaysha
4 жыл бұрын
Driven Spice This economic crisis will help. And all these empty AirBnbs are about to turn into long term appartments.
@DrivenSpice
4 жыл бұрын
Absolutely
@999carlosjorge
4 жыл бұрын
the Portuguese Government and the Lisbon Mayor,are going to put,in the upcoming months, some 7000 AirBnb appartments on the rental market,in The Lisbon Metropolitan aerea,and at affordable rents!!AirBnB are 1 of the main reasons rents went through the roof,greedy owners have learned there lesson with this pandemic.
@empronyxx1982
2 жыл бұрын
actually prices were mcuh better in 2012 because people like you didnt start buying houses in lisbon like hungry house buyers, before people could live affordably in lisbon but not now because of u
@paulocardoso3142
4 жыл бұрын
Hi, welcome to Portugal ! Lisbon as become a more expensive city to live in, but not as much as other major capital cities in Europe. If your intention is just to stay here for a couple of years, renting is the way to go. If you rent trought a third party, they will show you the more expensive apartments, because they assume you being foreing, can aford them. There are private listings on websites like OLX or Imovirtual, and you can find apartments with similar quality for about 1000 euro more or less, comparing to some of the 2000 euro that i saw in your video. Depends if you prefer big areas or multiple rooms, newer construction or remodeled 60s, 70s and 80s construction, and obviously the location is also important, even within the city, you can have 500 euro difference, between similar apartments. Hope we are treating you well as a newcomer. Paulo.
@DrivenSpice
4 жыл бұрын
Paulo, that you so much for your tips and advice. I really appreciate it.
@amazing-osky2052
4 жыл бұрын
This is very informative. WOW, incredible how renting a place can be overwhelming, anywhere.
@hofAMVS
4 жыл бұрын
As someone that was born in Portugal, its bugging me out the fact that someone is comfortable paying 1,200 rent for an apartment😬🤔, so idk how important it is for you to live in Lisbon but if you go like to Seixal/Almada (15km~ from lisbon) you can find apartments and houses wayy under 1000€...(Because once they hear that accent or English it means 🤑💸) theres so many places way cheaper pls dont rush your decision 🤝🏿❤
@DrivenSpice
4 жыл бұрын
It’s bugging me out too, which is why I haven’t committed to paying it yet. Seeing rentals for the price I paid for a 3 bedroom house in Washington, DC is insane. Especially, with the monthly salaries being what they. It’s like no once consider the housing for actual citizen. I still commute to the states, I don’t have a car and I am still pretty horrible with the language. I think when I get more comfortable with the language I will definitely move further out. Thanks for the tips!
@papaiamericano5420
4 жыл бұрын
Go to Almada it's peaceful you got a lot of transports beaches and the rent prices it's waay cheaper like 600€/700€ a good apartment
@lukalukadublin
4 жыл бұрын
Nice video, thank you, I am about to move to Lisbon next month 🤗
@goncalorito6849
4 жыл бұрын
one day if you want to get to know the alentejo, Montemor o Novo you will love it. countryside area, calm and clean air and the best food ...all the best !
@ReallyStrongGuy
4 жыл бұрын
So much great information here! Thank you for sharing your thoughts and experiences!!
@DrivenSpice
4 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much!
@cocovee8131
4 жыл бұрын
The rents are still expensive compared to where I live in Southern Ontario Canada. But really cute apartments.
@GreatBelinda
4 жыл бұрын
We just discovered you and watched several of your videos. Thank you. You do a great job, very informative and helpful. We plan on coming to Portugal (if the ban on American travelers is lifted) in January for 3 weeks to look at places to live. Our goal is to move there next October-ish, hopefully. We will be looking at Cascais and now the Carcavelos area.
@DrivenSpice
4 жыл бұрын
Awesome! Thank you so much!💕
@paulbielen9233
4 жыл бұрын
Lisbon is our destination of choice. Now living in San Francisco, so Lisbon is essentially our sister city minus the thousands of dollars. If November elections go ‘wrong’, we are moving. Both have Golden Gate bridges too.
@DrivenSpice
4 жыл бұрын
Indeed, you will feel right at home.
@paulbielen9233
4 жыл бұрын
Driven Spice ...And since retired no need for Medicare ripoff payments with a rip offBlue Cross Supplements. Health insurance for non residents i here is quite reasonable. So you are under “Calamity” restricted time. Stay safe . And your weather is better than SF. Make up our room please😀😃
@mosim9691
4 жыл бұрын
You have been so informative in your videos. I appreciate you taking time to upload these as I contemplate getting a place in Portugal. Thank you so much!😊 You have been helpful👍
@DrivenSpice
4 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much! I happy you found them helpful. 😁
@mosim9691
4 жыл бұрын
@@DrivenSpice Thanks
@barnardpasy
4 жыл бұрын
Great information my brother in law moved there on his own too and he loves it. You should connect.
@Nadelina_kb
3 жыл бұрын
I visited appartements in Lumiar too it’s more spacious. Alfama is cute but too busy (outside of COVID crisis) I found the price they asked you was a lot. At the moment because of the Air BnB crisis there are lots to rent. I personally got out of Lisbon as I found it too pricey. We used Idealista a lot to see what they have. Energy Performance !! So true. Thanks for sharing your experience.
@mrjajayoung
4 жыл бұрын
I know some people are claiming you’re getting ripped off and obviously you have to be on the look out for that but truth be told prices there have increased considerably in the last 5 years because of all the foreign investment flooding into Portugal (Lisbon & Porto especially) from creating the Golden Visa program in response to nearly going bankrupt after the financial crisis in ‘08. It was so bad you had Portuguese moving to Brazil and Angola to find work. The crisis and the austerity measures led to a real upheaval; and the rapid foreign investment has only compounded matters, particularly for locals. The underlying problem is that all the foreign investment was basically going into buying and renovating buildings in order the rent out on Airbnb or to “nomads / expats” who’d jump at paying prices much higher than locals ever would, but cheaper than Europe’s better known capital cities like Paris, Amsterdam or Rome. Might I suggest something; with this crisis, prices will go down and you’ll be able to get stuff at a decent discount and take advantage. But maybe you do a 6 month lease that takes you through the summer. That way you get to see if you like it there and if not, you make your way to Costa Rica just in time for the winter! Good luck!
@DrivenSpice
4 жыл бұрын
I agree totally. I thought the prices were too high which is why I didn’t commit. But the prices have slowly started to come down so I didn’t want to commit to something long term just yet. Still waiting.
@999carlosjorge
4 жыл бұрын
@@DrivenSpice yep smart move,do you have an email or instagram,twitter??i can send you a phonenr of a Portuguese woman,she works for a Lisbon realtor,and she speaks reasonably English,tell her what your looking for,how much you wanna pay, and so on and she has to make sure she doesn't reveal that it's for an American woman and wait and see what she finds for you!!You might be surprised!!
@AngelaKayAustin
4 жыл бұрын
I was supposed to be in Lisbon, like as I type this comment, but covid-19 forced me to return to the states. So, right now, I'm gobbling up your video. I write and travel and I can't wait until I get to pack my bags and hop on a plane. Thanks for sharing this video.
@DrivenSpice
4 жыл бұрын
Thank you! I miss traveling too. 🥺. I was suppose to be in Mozambique to visit 😭.
@AngelaKayAustin
4 жыл бұрын
@@DrivenSpice I will keep an eye out for that video :-)
@mjoninha
4 жыл бұрын
In COIMBRA, I pay 320€ + water& electricity bills for a two bedroom apartment, one bathroom. You should visit Coimbra ✨🇵🇹
@DrivenSpice
4 жыл бұрын
Yes, yes, I must soon as things go back to normal. Prayerfully.
@chicagomike
4 жыл бұрын
Maria João wow nossa muito bom
@nunosilvestre3197
4 жыл бұрын
It used to be one month deposit. But some owners started to consider how long does it take to evict someone if things go bad. The problem in cities like Lisbon and Porto (and other cities close by) is that on a monthly basis it is cheaper to buy than to rent. With the 2011, credit was low to rents went up, and with increasing tourism and foreigners moving in into the country they went skyrocketing. There are still some in the money flats and villas around. You just need to look hard. Sapo.pt and imovirtual.pt are also good websites to look for places to live. A tip, look for those local small real estate agents. They will get small gems with more affordable prices. Happy hunting!
@DrivenSpice
4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the tips!
@carleylester9691
4 жыл бұрын
Randomly popped up on my feed! Videos were great Cinn. Love that you are thriving and doing well. So Beautiful AS ALWAYS! I'm so over DC, but I've opened my dog biz and it's going well, cause otherwise I would leave. Sub'd and alerts on! Xoxo,
@DrivenSpice
4 жыл бұрын
Awh, hey Carley 👋🏽. Thanks love that means a lot to me. Congrats on your dog biz! I remember when you started it. Kudos!
@bettyparrilla712
4 жыл бұрын
Loved this video! My hubby & I are planning a move to Portugal at retirement in 4 years. I appreciate the real estate side of the video. Most videos on moving to Portugal don't show this! We're looking to move to the South... And want to check out Caldas de Rainhas... Love your vibe and the quality of your video. Looking forward to watching more videos!!! ❤️
@claudiabarros3219
4 жыл бұрын
Hi! Maybe you'd like to check Eight Miles from Home? They're a young couple with a baby, who moved to the center of Portugal, I think they live in Caldas da Rainha :)
@DrivenSpice
4 жыл бұрын
@betty, Thank you so much for your kind words and support.
@bettyparrilla712
4 жыл бұрын
@@claudiabarros3219 I've watched their videos as well! Many thanks for the recommendation!
@bklyntraveler9705
3 жыл бұрын
After having lived in El Salvador, C.A., seeing how my friends who are from or live in Europe live, and finally after renting a tiny house while traveling, I realized how little space I need! I would likely get a one bedroom that has an alcove area so I can set up an office, and that's it! Probably no larger than 60sm (645 sf). I will make that work!
@gr8phoenix990
4 жыл бұрын
Your vid was in my feed. I was like wait, she looks so familiar..omg, I know who that is...Go Cinn! Rooting for you. Wishing you all the best!
@Meowmeter
4 жыл бұрын
Welcome to Portugal, glad you're enjoying it.❤🇵🇹 best wishes
@DrivenSpice
4 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much!
@shawnthegreat4281
3 жыл бұрын
I wish you would had included the apartment link you mentioned in your video but thank you it’s was a good collection of choices and information
@kesteedavis1386
3 жыл бұрын
I’m considering moving to Portugal and this video was very helpful. Thank you so much!
@DrivenSpice
3 жыл бұрын
Thank you, glad it was helpful!
@judithgrace9850
9 ай бұрын
I rented a furnished apartment on Queretaro. Mexico in 2021. And it included all utilities. Wifi. Maid and security. It was 14k on a monthly basis. And went up to 15k 15 months later. The dollar exchange has my rent rising each month
@MrFernanrc
4 жыл бұрын
I love Europe, but I loved it more when I was young and could walk alot. I have to say it's safer than most places in the US, but doesn't mean your going to find a job, and maybe you don't need one, maybe your retired, either way, your going to help the Portuguese economy, and your going to learn a new language and probably help someone with their English. You are helping Europe, not hurting it, and if it's so cheap, you can take a nice trip to Paris, or UK or Italy every now and then. Love Bacalau, love the good food, even people in Spain go to Portugal for the good prices. Some have a business and buy their merchandise in Portugal, doesn't mean their debt will be taken care of or even their people will get a better retirement. I saw a video on long lines in spain just for bread to eat. poverty is high in most European countries but people do live better and have friends. Something rare in the US. no guns, in most European countries. safe. Doesn't mean no terrorism, but rare. Spain is socialist, has a communist Vice President, not a good future. Portugal was hopping Spain would unite with them years ago because of the crisis, the north of spain and portugual speak the same language, they have lots of fish, they eat lots of fish, rare to eat meat every meal like in the US. Big Mac heart attack. you can find paradise in both countries. you can't find a paradise in the US, it would be so over priced and no matter where the rich live, the extreme poor live right next to them. not so in Europe, but there are no jobs, so it's best to go with a pension from the US. The virus is most likely going to shatter the EU, making things cheaper. I wouldn't mind someday live in a small town, where people are friendly. Hopefully the governments won't be corrupt and ruin it.
@utahcanyon1000
4 жыл бұрын
Great comments.
@999carlosjorge
4 жыл бұрын
Unite with Spain??? get off the drugs ,only when Hell freezes over!! hehehe
@cadejanuszewski8552
4 жыл бұрын
all of these apartments looks so good
@ninobk196
4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this video and I hope you are doing well and are safe. I am planning my move to Portugal for 2021. I love that country and have visited several times. I "should" depending on what happens with COVID, be there for the whole month of August. Would love to meet up if you will be in town and have time. I'm so glad you posted the cost of the shea moisture products in another video. I will be bringing my own from Target :)
@DrivenSpice
4 жыл бұрын
Thank you! And I hope it was helpful. I’d imagine that the rental rates will start to go down. Sure, that would be cool to connect. Ha! Yes, bring your hair products, but if you run out its good to know you can get something in Lisbon in a pinch.
@ninobk196
4 жыл бұрын
@@DrivenSpice The rents have dropped significantly and keep dropping. I've had my eye on a couple of apartments to stay this summer and some have dropped by almost 40%. It also indicates how inflated the rents were anyway, which I get, since there was so much demand to live there over the past 10 years which drove rents up. Hopefully prices will be more realistic and reasonable next year. Keep the videos coming and I hope you are enjoying living there!!
@DC-ss2jx
4 жыл бұрын
Those are way too expensive! It's because of foreigners moving in Lisbon and paying those prices that the rents are increasing massively, and Portuguese people need to get further from Lisbon to afford accommodation. I get that you guys look for new horizons but you should think about the impact it makes on the local population... Hope you enjoy Lisbon though
@kirlanda4ever
4 жыл бұрын
Those prices are around the same for a one bedroom in a decent area in Chicago, IL. I think the real problem is when foreigners go to a different country and they are not aware they are being taken advantage of by local real estate agents. In her eyes, those apartments are cheaper than what she would’ve gotten in the US. So they look like a steal. Most of those prices, for those types of apartments would run you $4000+ if she was looking in “good, safe areas” here in most cities in the US.
@MsXlr8urself
4 жыл бұрын
Large cities in the US have the same problems of locals not being able to afford to live comfortably because of jobs and better standards of living attracting large groups of non-natives. It's is an unfortunate reality of large cities.
@papaiamericano5420
4 жыл бұрын
@Unknown Soldier go to Lisbon its safe, i recommend Oeiras or Almada
@999carlosjorge
4 жыл бұрын
@Unknown Soldier try any little town in Portugal,very cheap and as safe as Fort Knox.Don't worry 'bout safety!!!
@shnake_case
4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for a great video! Question: did you have to find a guarantor for renting an apartment? Some people claim that it's impossible to rent anything in Portugal (long term) unless you have a guarantor who is a local resident
@loricharlie1590
3 жыл бұрын
Thank you again for another great instructive video!
@DrivenSpice
3 жыл бұрын
Thank you! Glad you enjoyed it.
@donnabeasley9681
4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for posting this. Very informative. I would like to know what social relationships you have been able to establish since arriving in Portugal. I am self employed as well and the nature of that can be a little isolating. What have been your social experiences so far in making new friends. That's what scares me most about moving to another country - the lack of friends and family.
@dickielarue1451
4 жыл бұрын
Do your research...There are plenty of area's in Portugal to live...Depending on what type of lifestyle you want to have...I have lived here for over 3 year's now and I love this country...Not perfect, but peaceful and laid back...Everyone has different budgets...and yes Portugal is popular and prices have increased...My girlfriend and I pay $975 euros for A T-2 in Alcantara...Close by the Rio and Monsanto park behind us...We live an active and healthy lifestyle...and we have a dog...So this area fit's are lifestyle and budget...I can walk everywhere or take public transportation which is efficient and affordable for us...Blessings and Positive Energy!
@vitorsantos3414
4 жыл бұрын
You should try the other side of the river, like Almada, Seixal. It's 30 minutes away from Lisbon and houses are much cheaper. The best beaches and better quality of living :)
@DrivenSpice
4 жыл бұрын
I hear that is beautiful there. I do enjoy that I can walk to all the places I need. Luckily the prices in Lisbon are starting to drop.
@eliaramos3173
4 жыл бұрын
I was going to say the same!! Those apartments are sooooo expensive jeez! Margem Sul is great! Easy to commute to Lisbon.
@arslanhashmi3103
4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for sharing this guide. It will really help me. Please share your experience about hunting online and by state agent.
@carableu
4 жыл бұрын
Great information! Definitely higher than I had heard; but still much less than NYC! :)
@FreeBird2.0
2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for all your tips!
@rost8303
4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for sharing but your cut off size video images doesn’t really do the justice and yh is true Center Lisbon is way too spence to live but if you move away from the city,will be more cheaper.
@xpto0303
4 жыл бұрын
Depending on what zone of the country you live in, you can get also a modern T4 for about 1/4 of that price, or less.
@carlconrad8475
4 жыл бұрын
Loved the detailed information, but seeing the size and price comparison of the apartments, furnished vs. unfurnished, I agree that the up-front costs for the unfurnished place was crazy, but have you been furniture shopping there? Are the prices equally crazy? If I move there I would be selling up everything in the US as well.
@JK-ij4ig
4 жыл бұрын
I'm from Pennsylvania and have lived in Madrid for about 18 years. Madrid is substantially more expensive than Lisbon and I find that first apartment to be really expensive. It's nice, but really expensive. In general you seem to be looking at really high end places. Lisbon is my favorite city in Europe and I go there often. Me personally I would have preferred to live in Barrio Alto somewhere.
@CaroViee
4 жыл бұрын
yes needed this video! thank you!
@DrivenSpice
4 жыл бұрын
Sure, thing! Hope it was helpful.
@xengelenx1
4 жыл бұрын
Thanks this definitely makes me reconsider Lisbon. These prices are insane. Similar scams in Amsterdam.
@Himel666
4 жыл бұрын
I liked a lot your video, but the sad true is that, here in Portugal, foreigners are driving out the long living natives from historical centers. Because what you guys perceive as cheap for us the same it isn't true. where you guys see 1.200€ for a one bedroom apartment as cheap, the same it isn't true for the average Portuguese. Most families don't even have half of that amount in a month for food and shelter. The minimum wage here is around the 700€ and that it isn't before taxes, if you guys count out taxes, most households have less 550ish€ to govern their life's. There are extreme cases where people live with less than 300€. And the Airbnb didn't help either, and just drove up more the prices of housing in Portugal. But i guess the same is true in other countries. Now Days the historical centers as Porto or Lisbon, are more populated by foreigners than Portuguese people. We are being pushed to the suburbs and even there prices are starting to be gouged because people are being priced out of Lisbon and Porto. Don't get me wrong, I'm not pissing on you guys or opening a door for hate speech towards foreigners, non of that. And i condemn such thing! I'm just trying to convey the sad truth the Portuguese people are facing because of this new reality! I hope that you are right and the prices on the housing will come down. Otherwise this situation On housing in Portugal will start to become unsustainable for us all.
@YogaBlissDance
4 жыл бұрын
That is happening everywhere for ex, in a college town in US folks Air BnB for students parents and tourists. I've heard Paris is same, and I know NYC is same-- its the internet and the creation of short term rentals....
@vaskylark
4 жыл бұрын
You do get that everything you said is also happening allover the world? Even in the US. I could never afford to live in the cities in America, so I don't and I live in the suburbs. It is nothing but foreigners in the cities here too. Like that all over the world.
@TK-yf8sq
4 жыл бұрын
Loved this. I want to move! :) (Australia is a little harder to move from than the US I feel)
@antoniodasilva1230
4 жыл бұрын
You still in Portugal? Im freaking dieing to get the heck out of N.Y
@tiffanys.4250
4 жыл бұрын
Omg NY is my hometown and leaving was the best thing I could ever do! I went to California to start out.
@chrisjo3174
4 жыл бұрын
Flying back to Portugal soon?
@antoniodasilva1230
4 жыл бұрын
@@chrisjo3174 I think on may 22
@Colourandwellbeing
4 жыл бұрын
@@tiffanys.4250 Ladies African has great countries that are very peaceful too such as Botswana, Rwanda, Ghana, Mozambique, Cape Verde, Sao Tome. I grew up in Portugal, its ok but its not the paradise you think when you learn to understand Portuguese. I am in UK preparing to move to Africa and the countries I mentioned are stable. you can do your own research.
@tiffanys.4250
4 жыл бұрын
@@Colourandwellbeing i would LOVE to go to all the places you mentioned but I have no clue where to start. I want to get out of the US.
@nordicvolkan
4 жыл бұрын
HI , Thanks for posting this video it is very helpful. Thanks So much !
@DrivenSpice
4 жыл бұрын
Glad it was helpful. 🙂
@civivva4501
3 жыл бұрын
Useful to see.
@jannatferdouse172
3 жыл бұрын
Please show some cheap rent apartment( One bedroom one washroom). Your video is so informative, thank you so much.
@vaskylark
4 жыл бұрын
I've always wanted to go to Portugal. I heard it was beautiful from someone who went there that I really trust (may he RIP).
@Montreal288
4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing. Good work.
@DrivenSpice
4 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@llbrunollllbll9347
4 жыл бұрын
Very helpful indeed! Thank you!
@DrivenSpice
4 жыл бұрын
Thank you! Glad it was helpful!
@esria
3 жыл бұрын
Love looking at real estate. Fun!
@DoubleDe
4 жыл бұрын
Have a look in Cascais, monte Estoril, Estoril, malveira da serra, Oeiras, Sintra ( maybe a bit expensive but sometimes u can find good prices)
@DrivenSpice
4 жыл бұрын
I stayed it Cascais when I first came. Although beautiful, I found it to be just as expensive as Lisbon. I was also incredibly lonely there. It seemed like it was more of a family area and hard for me to meet people when compared to Lisbon. Maybe I just didn’t know where to go.
@edipires15
4 жыл бұрын
Cascais and Oeiras are one the most expensive places in the Lisbon area and Portugal in general ( they’re called the Portuguese Riviera for a reason)
@jppierre28
4 жыл бұрын
Have you ever felt uncomfortable or unwelcomed in Portugal. For example have you ever been watched, or followed as a black woman in Portugal? I am wondering because my husband and I are really starting to consider living outside of the US (where we were both raised).
@alexstrachan4546
4 жыл бұрын
dope story would love to see a video on the process of becoming a citizen if you did that ...and if not one thats generally about the rules of moving to a country like Lisbon as a US citizen ..visa? etc...
@Lady9T
4 жыл бұрын
Following
@DrivenSpice
4 жыл бұрын
Sure thing, working on it was we speak.
@kimberlypuravida5690
4 жыл бұрын
Our first place in Turrialba was $200 a month for a 3 bedroom 2 bath unfurnished and unfinished home, we paid to finish the home. Near the City of San Ramon we had a 3 bedroom 2 bath unfurnished for $400. Then we moved to the Nicoya Peninsula on the Pacific coast and pay $500 for a 2 bedroom 1 bath unfurnished and 5 minutes from the ocean. All in Costa Rica. Thank you for the comparison look at Portugal.
@DrivenSpice
4 жыл бұрын
Thanks Kimberly! How is the internet connection where you are?
@kimberlypuravida5690
4 жыл бұрын
@@DrivenSpice I just paid $1500 to help a start up put in a tower now we have good reliable internet. It is new so we are still working out the bugs on speed but for the first time in a long time we have reliable internet and we are out in the middle of nowhere on the Peninsula. Most of the younger immigrants or illegal perpetual tourists all work online in Costa Rica. My husband is 15 years older so we immigrated as pensioners.
@virtualrealitystudy7114
4 жыл бұрын
Wow, ppl really have different experiences. I took a solo trip to Porto recently and I vowed that I would never visit Portugal again. The locals were so unpleasant and it was clear that it was racism. All the best on your journey.
@DrivenSpice
4 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@theprolificfamilystead
4 жыл бұрын
Sooo happy we found your channel!!!💚💚💚New subscribers here🔔🔔
@DrivenSpice
4 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@delitvs2682
4 жыл бұрын
In winter houses tend to be very cold so be aware of that!
@DrivenSpice
4 жыл бұрын
Yes, I’ve experienced it over this past winter. I wore a ton of layers in the house.
@traveler7117
4 жыл бұрын
great videos
@chieftrice
4 жыл бұрын
Nice video. Do a video if you run into Michael Fassbender and his wife Alicia Vikander. They live in Alfarma.
@ust7243
4 жыл бұрын
They do? Just moved to Alfama 3 weeks ago from LA
@chieftrice
4 жыл бұрын
@@ust7243 yep!
@stevendrake9591
4 жыл бұрын
Lisbon is hella expensive, I hope you like it there.
@Divinatonio
4 жыл бұрын
Great video, can you do one on smaller apartments or studios with 1 bedroom 1 bathroom etc. Thank you!!
@DrivenSpice
4 жыл бұрын
Sure, maybe after covid.
@Divinatonio
4 жыл бұрын
Driven Spice thank you ♥️
@saliyaali9469
4 жыл бұрын
This is making me consider moving to Portugal! I am also considering day trading? Can you tell me how you got started?
@DrivenSpice
4 жыл бұрын
I took classes and read a lot of books.
@m000Theevilcow
4 жыл бұрын
Dear Spice ..only 4 months deposit for a smack brand new (renovated) T2 apartment in the city center for 1200 € month (3rd apartment) ? its not a robbery its a surprise since most apartments listed go for higher prices with 1 year lease under minimum 5 years lease most of the times also including a guarantor, as they are not interested of leasing apartments for very short stays. I´m aware of locals and foreigners alike paying for similar unfurnished apartments prices that range from 1800€ to almost 3000€ in that district. Also gotta say that sometimes you can find adds listed for 700 to 900€ only but those are for long term rentals minimum 10 years lease (you pay 5 years in advance 50% of of the contract in advance with no reimbursement if you need it in case you need to get back home or some other reason) and they get off market in just 1 or 2 days since demand is so high (therefore those prices). I´m not a landlord but you gotta understand that real estate and square foot in Lisbon especially in the center is very high and they invest a whole lot of money refurbishing it so they want to recoup their investment asap also there are a lot of scammers trying to scam landlords out of their money and Portuguese law is still far from perfect regarding this matters which many times scammers take advantage off new entrepreneurs, that´s ONE of the reasons why many buildings in the historic areas of the city are so neglected. In Portugal people use two major web pages for listing out whatever they want to sell or buy which are OLX and Custo Justo; there are some other exclusively real estate pages off course (idealista; casa sapo; imovirtual; lardocelar) but those two are the main ones. Online scams are a global pandemic so always trust but verify its my advice to all. All rentals in Portugal must have a energy certificate or else they can risk a fine, so don´t be shy to ask for it.
@DrivenSpice
4 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for your insight and advice. I do gather that some may feel that rental rates were fair, but again I day trade so I look at the economy and the inter workings of it a little differently than most. I personally am not going to pay (my old US) mortgage prices for a rental. The rental prices are unreasonable when comparing the average wage of the country. Rental prices being hyped up on foreign and tourist income is dangerous for the citizens. Unfortunately, Portugal will see a real estate bubble burst soon and honestly it worries me a bit. I experienced the real estate drop in the states in 2008/2009 and I lost everything. The Portuguese are such wonderful and kind people and I worry about the effects the recession will have. I have friends that are having a hard time coping and stressed out now because of COVID. Tourism isn’t going to come rushing back immediately and so many people are going to have to figure out how to cope. Those high-end places are going to lose some interest and be force to drop their prices. It’s already starting to happen. Thanks again for you advice and tips. It really helpful. When you move to a new country it’s hard to know where to look. You gave such useful information to better search. Thank you so much for that.
@kmichalene
4 жыл бұрын
Thanks! Very helpful info about apartment hunting in Europe, in general. Will you be doing an apartment tour of your final choice?
@DrivenSpice
4 жыл бұрын
Sure thing!
@PeeGeeThirteen
4 жыл бұрын
avoid the number 2 apartment (Alfama), lol. Alfama is being gentrified into AirBnbs. completely changing the face of the neighborhood
@DrivenSpice
4 жыл бұрын
I agree. I wouldn't live in Alfama.
@mobutter2879
4 жыл бұрын
WoW! Italy is cheaper..would never have thought.
@graceandglamor
4 жыл бұрын
When you say they wanted €X for the apartment...is that per month?
@dwalker6868
3 жыл бұрын
Thank you
@Lindamorena
4 жыл бұрын
Great video love
@DrivenSpice
4 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@MakedaNieare
4 жыл бұрын
Omg this first apartment 😍😍😍😍😍
@caesar4080
4 жыл бұрын
Nice video!
@Junior2uu
4 жыл бұрын
14K down payment this is pure madness smh
@miola2083
4 жыл бұрын
Thanks and looking forward to the next video. Helpful. I would just propose a tighter edit.
@christiancorrea9272
4 жыл бұрын
Hello! Would anyone have any resources/websites to do some more research on cost of housing and searching of housing for my future plans to getting back to Lisbon? Obrigdo! Thank you!
@judithgrace9850
9 ай бұрын
Please be Alert, heavily block your doors and windows and a/c for your protection. Security can be deadly, and will enter your apartment, unless blocked to get the machete etc.
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