You ever going to stop putting the stupid, distracting music under the game?
@JeremyNoell
Жыл бұрын
@Naitomea No ❤
@matthugenberg8869
Жыл бұрын
Corey actually had it correct how rebound works. It's a trigger that goes on to the stack, then the trigger resolves and THEN you cast the spell. So corey can stack it so the emeria trigger resolves first, putting the angel into play, then resolve the rebound trigger, which THEN Let's you cast the spell, and can target the angel.
@tilleruez6869
Жыл бұрын
At the first glance it really seems to work in a way the rest thought was right, I'm not surprised they disagreed with him so strongly :) such an interesting interaction!
@dustyfox6511
Жыл бұрын
@@tilleruez6869 Yeah, but it's important to note that it's the ability to cast it that goes on the stack at upkeep and not the actual card.
@ohyea456
Жыл бұрын
@@tilleruez6869 They didn't STRONGLY disagree with him. They weren't sure either, so they played it like it wasn't as strong as Corey suspected it might be. Which, IMO, is the correct way to play when you're unsure about card interaction. Play it in it's weaker form, then learn if it's stronger. Otherwise, you could be cheating people. I say the same thing when people remark "I'm not sure if I played a land this turn," err on the side you have, because then you're not cheating.
@tilleruez6869
Жыл бұрын
@@ohyea456 when it comes to rules you and opponents having different solutions to problem at the table may always check if google gives any results to your question, usually in form of some thread on reddit. Obviously it doesnt work while recording an episode for youtube channel :D But in other cases it's always worth to find solution at instant and let the rest of group know so you won't have similar problems next time
@ohyea456
Жыл бұрын
@@tilleruez6869 Yeah, that's not always a great solution either. People don't typically like to wait around for 15 minutes while you google an intricate rules interaction. I know, because I'm quite a rules lawyer and have a lot of experience looking rules up during games. Most often, it's best to make a snap decision, erring on the side of not cheating, and while play continues, someone can look into it. Or after the game ends. Most people are just playing to have fun. Obviously, sometimes the situation calls for it, such as a game deciding play, but most of the time you can just continue. Commander is a casual format after all.
@kylebillings7593
Жыл бұрын
When is Stephen going to learn he needs to kick Jon when he is down? If he ever gets his feet under him he never hesitates to sweep Stephens leg in response.
@MWorl91
Жыл бұрын
It was satisfying to see Jon get immediately punished
@CyberNewType
Жыл бұрын
It’s actually getting a little ridiculous to tell the truth. How many times can they let Jon do this and still have it be believable.
@BJUPIN0002
Жыл бұрын
Just an FYI, watched the new spike feeders game and Alex tried to cast a land, but Elliot quickly reminded him that he was not Steven Green and could not, in fact, cast his land. It's known the world over that only #teamgreen can cast lands!
@Jchmcom
Жыл бұрын
Corey: "I would definitely try to kill him(Stephen) if you keep me alive." I would have turned every single creature sideways, including the lethal commander, all at Corey *JUST* for destroying/exiling 198 of my artifacts that game.
@kingfuzzy2
Жыл бұрын
Seems entirely reasonable
@fatalbert357
Жыл бұрын
This game was very reminiscent of one of the first commander vs episodes when Jon was playing Surrak Dragonclaw. He played craterhoof, killed 2 opponents and then died to justin's narset. Long story short, I guess some things never change XD
@isaabd1334
Жыл бұрын
I love the way you guys are introducing the deck in the start now!
@wolfkong
Жыл бұрын
Pretty sure the displacer puts the creature back into play tapped. That was the beauty of it in standard.
@robbertburger9381
Жыл бұрын
not the one to comment often... but have to say i Like the new format with the faster start into the game with some deck tech later on!
@KakashiFlash2
Жыл бұрын
Yooooooooooooooh, this new addiiton on deck tecks is CLEAAAAAAAAAAN! Super fan of the addition!
@Steven-rb7ph
Жыл бұрын
Elesh Norn as commander is a good way to no have friends, regardless of which one you pick.
@soron703
Жыл бұрын
Poor Green never learns to not go full in vs Jon
@Soc1opath
Жыл бұрын
I miss JP so much
@racewarkingdomsable
Жыл бұрын
yep, same. corey's stoner chuckle at EVERY WORD out of his mouth and his fundamental misunderstanding of magic rules makes this show infinitely worse
@taylormilleman7337
Жыл бұрын
What even happened to jp?
@yorkazord319
Жыл бұрын
@@racewarkingdomsablefundamental misunderstanding of magic? The guy has won a bunch of Grand Prix, star city open, etc and so on… he also has played and gotten super far in pro tours. He just doesn’t understand the commander format
@racewarkingdomsable
Жыл бұрын
@@yorkazord319 i dunno man, doesn't matter what he's won or done, just watch these videos. he doesn't understand basic magic rules
Displacer should be putting Corey’s creatures back into play tapped
@kingfuzzy2
Жыл бұрын
Yeah him blinking vigelence is a mistake
@skykur
Жыл бұрын
yep his angel should have been tapped when he blocked stephen's commander. he would have been dead a long time ago
@goingtroughchanges8257
Жыл бұрын
I enjoy them blaming Corey for "letting" Jon get to 15 points, when Jeremy and Stephen focused Corey, while Corey put Jon over a barrel for most of the game.
@MM-lv4iv
Жыл бұрын
Corey: "Your deck's obnoxious" while playing Elesh Norn.....pot, meet kettle
@filiphorvath8932
Жыл бұрын
I feel like everybody was chill with Elesh before Sheldon's article.
@MM-lv4iv
Жыл бұрын
@@filiphorvath8932 I've been hearing people say that a lot, I'm willing to bet there was a lot of resistance, but it wasn't voiced until someone else broke the silence
@orencook6945
Жыл бұрын
I was going to spend my sick day going through spoilers but this is even better!
@NyxTheScary
Жыл бұрын
Same boat lol. Hope you feel better
@The-World-Is-Flat
Жыл бұрын
It is a nice way to spend a sick day.
@Tclark6199
Жыл бұрын
Corey's power is equivalent to the size of his hair. He'll soon be unstoppable.
@gingerbreadman80
Жыл бұрын
y'all need to figure out your sound. You've been more and more muted since you went to this new set-up.
@AmbianceXBL
Жыл бұрын
Yeah they need those personal mics back, it was way better audio back then
@sxysamurai
Жыл бұрын
Oh look, Jon whines the entire episode and then manages to take out 2 players out of nowhere....yep that's peak Jon.
@timothymcwilliams4872
Жыл бұрын
Is it just me or was the audio balance a little off this week? I feel like it was a lot quieter. And yes, I checked both my computer volume and my KZitem volume, all levels were normal
@saiconjr
Жыл бұрын
44:04 I couldn't stop laughing for a minute straight
@froggystrap1232
Жыл бұрын
Elesh Norn is a kill on sight commande
@sleepyScush11ie_
Жыл бұрын
First time watching in this channel. Honest question, why do you guys not use digital life counters?
@IRONWILL5555
Жыл бұрын
Please go back to doing deck techs at the beginning.
@TEKKENRAISED
Жыл бұрын
Please
@jordans2753
Жыл бұрын
Please
@stephenfreeman9842
Жыл бұрын
Please
@shagnastyfo20
Жыл бұрын
Please
@andrewkirschmann4779
Жыл бұрын
Please
@MrUglama
Жыл бұрын
I love you Jonathan, couldn't think of a better pilot to take the Myr for a spin
@steveita2162
Жыл бұрын
Would love more deck techs in videos
@Cookiemunster779
Жыл бұрын
I appreciate how fast you guys start the game now MUCH better than when it legit took almost 10 minutes to get to the game. Although it’s really weird that you wait to deck tech until the end of the first turn
@lowru_6611
Жыл бұрын
you guys should all play poison decks and see who dies first
@nathankidd3240
Жыл бұрын
Liquid metal coating and artifact destruction is red way of removing enchantments. Or chaos warp
@breakingblackmagic7617
Жыл бұрын
the end of that game was BRUTAL....all that land D...ouch!
@dunnstoopid420
Жыл бұрын
I love that band on Cory shirt I knew we were one in the same
@1990loud
Жыл бұрын
Bring back VS Live!
@NA-zs4xi
Жыл бұрын
Oh man I hope I can get Stephen to see a goofy qss deck I've been working on specifically for him
@steveandmandyvela1367
5 ай бұрын
NEVER LEAVE JOHN ALIVE HAVENT YOU GUYS LEARNED YET IN OVER 300 EPISODES!!!
@nemoforever
Жыл бұрын
Why do the card images go away so quickly? D:
@UNCLEBEN2021
Жыл бұрын
Corey's shirt though 👍
@ajaydassani9931
Жыл бұрын
Jon should of spread the love
@goldbergbrain
Жыл бұрын
I can’t wait to see Infect in action next week. Who will be the brave soul - or maybe all four of you can be compleated.
@narfidy444
Жыл бұрын
It would be so funny if 3 of them played infect and one of them played Melira
@josephdomingo3240
Жыл бұрын
It just sucks that John missed so many draw triggers from Jhoira, when she was on the battlefield
@jakebrodowski9
Жыл бұрын
Awesome game.
@mest6819
Жыл бұрын
Imagine that, Corey plays the single spikiest card in the set. Never would have seen it coming.
@filiphorvath8932
Жыл бұрын
I would argue Unctus is spikier.
@Kajemby
Жыл бұрын
Great episode slightly hampered by the fact that commander damage wasn't tracked properly.
@Kajemby
Жыл бұрын
My bad, just noticed I was wrong about the commander damage!
@chrisdixon7377
Жыл бұрын
37 minutes into the video. I hope this turns into an arch enemy game. This is brutal
@froggystrap1232
Жыл бұрын
I mean Elesh Norn is a kill on sight commande
@robertbauerle5592
Жыл бұрын
There’s no way you legitimately think that Corey is the problem in this game right? Do you not see Jeremy’s board? Elesh is incredibly mediocre in comparison to birgi + storm kiln in an instant/sorcery deck
@weirdo82
Жыл бұрын
@@robertbauerle5592 and yet, who ended up winning? Hint: not Jeremy.
@robertbauerle5592
Жыл бұрын
@@weirdo82 Corey was literally handed the game lol. Everyone at the table knew and Corey even acknowledged it. John wanted to go for a risky play. He had a full turn to kill Corey while he was at 3 life and he didn't find a way to do it.
@weirdo82
Жыл бұрын
@@robertbauerle5592 Never said he wasn't? I'm talking about you stating Jeremy was a threat, which he is, but that Corey wasn't. Calling Elesh Norn "mediocre" is hilariously faulty, when cards like torpor orb and panharminocon are notorious in commander. Even early in the game, he had stax effects and blink shenanigans down. Anybody who thinks Corey's commander and his effects aren't a threat in their own right has never played against stax or etb effects.
@remembertobreathe66
Жыл бұрын
Isn't Jon suppose to have 16 points? If he ended last episode on 10, won this game, killed someone with commander damage, AND cast his commander 4+ times, that should be 16. You should consider playing an archenemy game when the person in the lead has twice the number of points than second place. Each player antes up X number of points and plays with the archenemy cards: 1st place vs the other three. Whichever side wins doubles whatever they ante.
@Dark-Pikachu1
Жыл бұрын
29:55 no Chaos warp Steven?
@IamXSublime
Жыл бұрын
How did Corey exile jons lands?
@krazykilper
Жыл бұрын
Wow! Great game!
@allein8er
Жыл бұрын
I feel bad for Suarez getting shut down but if he didn't he runs away with this game easy. Lol
@kevin54929
Жыл бұрын
rebelution fan niceeeeee
@zacharywiesel900
Жыл бұрын
Stephen looks uncomfortably hot in this episode
@savilopez8041
Жыл бұрын
I thought that as well he didn’t seem well
@nmglowden
Жыл бұрын
Man, that last 5 minutes was rough to watch. I do wish that Corey could find another way to play magic other than flickering lol.
@Gunnarr123abc
Жыл бұрын
how else will someone play elish norn though
@nmglowden
Жыл бұрын
@@Gunnarr123abc You can have plenty of ETB effects without flickering and blinking everything. White has plenty of ways to win.
@joshualynn9337
Жыл бұрын
One of few times I will hope John wins because he playing myr and I love myr
@Naitomea215
Жыл бұрын
Continuing to put distracting, annoying music under the video.
@Mando0Melkor
Жыл бұрын
I'm impressed no one picked atraxa.
@kingfuzzy2
Жыл бұрын
Hoping to see Janky magic or turn 4 wins
@Akition
Жыл бұрын
I dont like how you guys spoiled who wins right in the title o.0
@l6ogan9
Жыл бұрын
The commander damage counter next to the names is different than every other channel and it kinda confused me. Like jon had dealt damage to Jeremy so he had the damage he dealt next to his name instead of Jeremy having it next to his to signify that he took that much
@Beev37
Жыл бұрын
jon is *that* kind of player... i seeeeeee -_-
@tomcadden8054
Жыл бұрын
Great new video format, however the sound was really quiet
@williamlittle1042
Жыл бұрын
Thought I was crazy for a second
@keithfilibeck2390
Жыл бұрын
Jonathan killing Stephen, who's deck was basically spent, instead of Corey is a huge punt, its a baffling decision.
@Nerveroxis
Жыл бұрын
Jon had mostly artifact lands, Vandalblast would have just ended him
@MunchKING
Жыл бұрын
@@Nerveroxis *Entirely* Artifact Lands according to what he told Stephen as they were counting. He did play a Karn's Bastion next turn, but yeah, losing all his lands would have been bonkers.
@rapha792
Жыл бұрын
nice
@fallsenseless9699
Жыл бұрын
Jeremy complaining about corey the whole time even tho he was the threat for most of the game kills me
@Skream1185
Жыл бұрын
jeremy always does that. corey lets him see the card and then he counters it. hes always making it seem like hes the victim
@99wolfseditionify
Жыл бұрын
I'm a doer!!
@kylemcc5887
Жыл бұрын
@28:20 people second hand salty about Corey's HI, but I would of done the exact same thing.
@daleway5429
Жыл бұрын
What is the new noisy in the background? I have been watching since before seasons and I struggled to watch this due to the noise giving me a headache sorry guys.
@laffywaffy1989
Жыл бұрын
May try out urtet but I will add a timeless lotus to make urtet lil more fun
@krostorm
Жыл бұрын
54 minutes in, wondering when corey will read displacer
@mtgyorkshire5500
Жыл бұрын
Always kill Jon first 😁 come on guys 🤣
@serafimb2319
Жыл бұрын
What's the deal with justin parnell?
@laffywaffy1989
Жыл бұрын
Family issues going on still and from what I heard his podcast he yells why he hasn't been in and and says he may not return from what I heard but don't quote me
@danpasquale1620
Жыл бұрын
E-Norn is not a complicated card at all lol c'mon man
@scoobg21
Жыл бұрын
The irony of Corey stating he’s being ganged up on yet targets one player the whole game and exiles lands. His deck poops on Jon’s deck. LOLOL.
@lucaslohmann4411
Жыл бұрын
Third!
@Tantrumspam
Жыл бұрын
who decided to put a spoiler for the game in the title of the video?!
@isaabd1334
Жыл бұрын
Bruh why is corey targeting Jonathan so much 😭
@MrAveryLuke
Жыл бұрын
Jon played some scummy games today
@laffywaffy1989
Жыл бұрын
I agree plus on side note not just jon that does that they all do including Justin at one point or another some do it more often than the others
@tonyjara184
Жыл бұрын
sorry fellas but this game is a huge snooze fest of who moves first.
@tilleruez6869
Жыл бұрын
Guys please do another one with Atraxa :p
@Aburame1313
Жыл бұрын
such a rough game for Jon
@jakebrodowski9
Жыл бұрын
Initial thoughts at the beginning of this is they are Playing ONE but no one is playing Toxic seems like a missed opportunity.
@SCGCommander
Жыл бұрын
Wait until next week. 😉
@jjcc8379
Жыл бұрын
I don't get Jonathan last attack at all. Eliminating Corey should've been his first target... after everything he suffered from him in the early game. But welp \_(·_·)_/
@alexkonic4172
Жыл бұрын
Your point system needs some rework or thinking I feel, it makes you all play around the points instead of playing the game naturally and optimally.
@danaholland6686
Жыл бұрын
disagree it adds an extra layer of politics the goal is to win the season at the end
@markbrierley6367
Жыл бұрын
Points systems are the absolute best for long running Commander leagues. If you only ever focused on just winning you'd forget this format is supposed to be focused on a shared fun experience.
@mattja1998
Жыл бұрын
That’s the whole point of the show, if you don’t like it then don’t watch it
@spg225
Жыл бұрын
Been gone from the channel for a while. What happened to Justin?
@markbrierley6367
Жыл бұрын
Family health issues. It's unlikely he's coming back, but I hear he's doing his own thing these days.
@spg225
Жыл бұрын
@@markbrierley6367 im sad to hear that, but thank you for the update.
@noahcheng2401
Жыл бұрын
A part of me wants to see a Jeska combo farm infinite points for commander casts
@MrPinkpanzer
Жыл бұрын
The commander format is not made more fun by the existence of elesh norn. It was a mistake to print that card.
@Chpow01
Жыл бұрын
Please keep this in mind as you read this; I am now subbed on two channels, I watch the show every week, I've played since alpha with only a break around OG Mirrodin, so I have stuck with this game, even through crap fiesta eras where NPE cards were all over the place (I ran Isshan's Shade in my Necro deck, back when he was considered "too good"), so, take this with a grain of salt, please. I see this all the time here... Run Torpor Orb... Please? You all love value to such a nauseating extent that most of the decks revolve around ETB effects, it kills you guys more often than I think than any other type of effect. I am not saying to run Null Rod, but single target versatile removal and something to curb blink effects would go a long way to resolving issues that end up with people becoming archenemy by turn 5. Assassin's Trophy Mythos of Nethroi Agonizing Remorse Rapid Decay Swords to Plowshares Puterfy Mortify Bedevil Are all removal off the top of my head that simply solve problems at instant speed, they are all 3 mana or less and, aside from Swords can hit more than one card type... I know single target removal is "a waste of a card slot" but so is needing to throw your cards into a meat grinder to kill someone because no one at the table had a Swiss Army knife, because they all brought bazookas. I am dead broke to the point of selling cards to pay bills, so it's not like I have bought anything in the past few years, but there have to be other super versatile cards I did not mention, heck I can even send in a few of my deck lists circa M20 so you can update them to your liking, I'm an average player, maybe good(?) but due to health reasons I simply suck at focusing, so I make a lot of small mistakes, but I did win/2nd most of my games, back when I could think straight, so you guys may even have fun? So yeah, that's my rant I guess. No matter what, thanks for your vids, it is one of the things that keep me of rock bottom. So, I honestly can't thank you guys enough for that.
@vauk5081
Жыл бұрын
Every game I watch with Corey, the more I dislike Corey. It seems like his entire goal of playing it to ensure others don't have fun and it is not enjoyable to watch.
@TyranitarStudios
Жыл бұрын
I wanted Corey to lose at first, but I'm glad the game ended this way
@alexanderrichardson3396
Жыл бұрын
Yes deck techs spliced in are wierd. Please go back to the old way. I miss the long intros before the game. If people dont like it they can skip them.
@Sinfamous81
Жыл бұрын
Talk about an absolutely gross game lol
@yorkazord319
Жыл бұрын
Can we have a rule that Jeremy can’t play Triggers.Deck? It triggers me when he misses a bunch of triggers. He’s a big stompy kind of player
@harleymartinez7613
Жыл бұрын
Big mess up, the lands that enter tapped, dont enter tapped due to elesh norn
@matthugenberg8869
Жыл бұрын
That is factually incorrect. . Those are not triggers. They are state based effects. Elesh norn only stops triggers.
@jackhenderson369
Жыл бұрын
"Enters tapped" doesn't trigger anything. "When X enters the battlefield, tap it" would.
@Cookiemunster779
Жыл бұрын
How does urtet even come close to golos? And what’s wrong with golos anyways he shouldn’t have been banned in the first place
@markbrierley6367
Жыл бұрын
There are a lot of things wrong with Golos. He reduces commander tax to 1. He perfect fixes your mana situation for colorless from the command zone, even if you don't go grab World Tree. His 3 free spells per activation doesn't have a limit per turn or sorcery speed. He's 5 colors meaning you don't have to give anything up. He was the best commander for any deck regardless of what your deck's strategy was attempting to accomplish unless you're a two card combo with your commander and sometimes not even then.
@alexkonic4172
Жыл бұрын
Also corey needs to stop playing garbage staxing overpowered decks in your pod
@1ntegrator
Жыл бұрын
This is the second game with Elesh Norn I’ve watched (after the command zone) and it really is a miserable card. Neither of these games were fun in my opinion because Elesh just warps the game around itself.
@dalefrankliniii4701
Жыл бұрын
I see your point but we also have a bias of wanting to be entertained by this game whereas if we sit at a table the fun may be in finding a creative solution to the problem which is more engaging.
@DebelaZeljkaMarkic
Жыл бұрын
Stevens beard screams "i never want to have sex again"
@markbrierley6367
Жыл бұрын
Eldrazi Displacer targets enter the battlefield tapped. Worst music so far. Please stop putting it in. Seeing a lot of agreement in the comments for this episode.
@emanueltalavera4175
Жыл бұрын
Too many counters
@simontatton5424
Жыл бұрын
God I hate smug Corey so much
@DissedentMageMtK
Жыл бұрын
Seems like Corey gets overly targeted in alot of these games.
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