My dad abused my mom and us kids. I haven't lived with him for over 40 years, I am also going to be 50, but to this day, my dad scares me. That fear never goes away. Thankfully, God put my step dad in my life, so I grew up the remainder of my adolescence in a loving home.
@barbiesergio7663
Ай бұрын
My husband is a great step- dad to my kids. I'm so glad you had this.
@HailDanielle
5 күн бұрын
@@kristijones2334 and yet, you still never had the thought to kill him.
@kristijones2334
4 күн бұрын
@@HailDanielle no wouldn't even think about that!
@saphiraaestiva9331
Ай бұрын
This case is just reminding me of why I never really told a lot of people about my abusive relationship and the nature of the abuse
@catelewis7223
Ай бұрын
Exactly… people don’t believe you which just retraumatises ugh… take care
@1sweetmess
Ай бұрын
Yep. My own sister told me she thought I was exaggerating. I felt like I literally didn't have anyone.
@GigiWright
Ай бұрын
Same
@saphiraaestiva9331
Ай бұрын
@@catelewis7223 bro fr i hope you take care too
@saphiraaestiva9331
Ай бұрын
@@1sweetmess i hope you are in a better place
@SimplyStacyL
Ай бұрын
“I can’t help you with that, I’m not asking the questions.” Has to be my favorite expert response to date. 😂
@mini_skinny0296
Ай бұрын
I've noticed that yesterday. And this after she snapped at him a few minutes prior.
@KarenAZona
Ай бұрын
The other one I loved was when the guy in Chad Daybell case who said ‘you own the house, you tell me how big is it?’
@ServiteJack
Ай бұрын
@@SimplyStacyL WAS GREAT!
@whispersamungtrees
Ай бұрын
Same, watched that part live and died laughing 😂
@workingonmyroar7944
Ай бұрын
@@KarenAZonayes!!! lol
@sherrym921
Ай бұрын
I had to be a part of the rewatch crew. I’m going to share my experience. I was a dv victim for many years. No one knows unless they have experienced it. Every day is a different day and a hopeful day. I thought I could make a difference, I thought I could’ve helped him every time he said I’m sorry. After 25 years I finally found the courage to believe in myself and I left. It was the most difficult time in my life but I did it. NO ONE KNOWS UNLESS THEY HAVE BEEN THERE! I think this case is hard because he was 30 years her senior and the circumstances around it but imo she was more abused than anybody knows.
@HeidiDalton-lx8ei
Ай бұрын
@@sherrym921 thank you for sharing. 💕
@HailDanielle
Ай бұрын
@@sherrym921 but I have been there and I still think Ashley is guilty. You went through 25 years of abuse and that is absolutely heartbreaking. But Ashley wasn’t even living with her alleged abuser at the time of his murder. Is it too much to consider that maybe Doug was the one in danger in this instance?
@jasonkranczoch4776
Ай бұрын
@@HailDanielleThere is no evidence against her. There is evidence against him that he was the aggressor.
@B_Bodziak
Ай бұрын
@@HailDanielle That doesn't change the circumstances. I realize that if you haven't lived in that level of abusiveness, it's very difficult to comprehend. In the state that I live in, domestic violence was not even considered a crime until 1996. Lawmakers had to propose a bill and we had state House Reps arguing AGAINST making it a crime to physically abuse another member of your household. She's not the one sending texts apologizing for hurting him.
@BGood-me4cq
Ай бұрын
Agree!!
@catelewis7223
Ай бұрын
Abusers have cycles. That’s why it’s scary and confusing. They can be very attentive. Then be aggressive, then back to nice. 99% of the time in public they appear nice to everyone else.
@DeniseWalsh1
Ай бұрын
Agreed. 🙏
@BabyT709
Ай бұрын
Yup, after I was able to get away from a physically abusive ex my cousin came up to me and said "I heard what he was like to you but Im still friends with him, he was always cool with me", I said "yeah he's all fun and games when ur out partying together, its when we get home after that he loses his shit because I talked to somebody or laughed at a joke somebody made then Im a whore". One time we went out to see a live band with friends and I stayed quiet, only talked to my female friend and didnt really acknowledge anyone else who talked to me to not set him off, me and my female friend danced to a couple songs, when we got home another fight, now Im f'in my friend and I'll F anybody! He lost his mind at me one time after he had his friends over and I laughed at a joke one of his friends made, all hell broke loose when they went home, so after that I tried staying in my room when his friends were over, but that pissed him off, I had to be a nice host but even answering somebody when they spoke to me caused a fight when they left even though he looked like he was having the time of his life while they were there. Another abusive ex: I eat really healthy, we were invited to a bbq and he raved about how he loves it and bbq is his favorite food, couple weeks later it was really hot so I decided to make bbq to not use the oven too much, he was throwing food and dishes around the kitchen because he shouldnt have to eat this shit, I said you said bbq was your favorite when we went a couple weeks ago, he said nobodys wants this shit when they get home from work. I spent all day deep cleaning the living room including washing all the blinds and curtains, steam cleaning the furniture etc, he got mad about something later and when I came downstairs he had shaken up cans of pop and sprayed it all over the living room, up the walls and ceiling, over my new tv, etc. Threatened to kill my animals all the time, tell me if I pissed him off Id never see my kids again, and on and on. He was the life of a get together though, and always "Babe" "I lover her so much" etc to me around other people
@chacha-Ce83
Ай бұрын
Yes unpredictable for sure
@chacha-Ce83
Ай бұрын
@@BabyT709ohhh my gosh I’m real sorry
@steelhurricane4041
Ай бұрын
Convenient for Ashley, she has a lot of variables with her DV claims. I think she planned it out, & Doug killed.
@gramajan4
Ай бұрын
It doesn't go away. I've been divorced for 34 years, we never talk, but he still pulls the strings with my sons, who are now in their late 40's. He still takes advantage of every opportunity to control, coerce, and intimidate. I tell girls all the time to be very careful who you choose, because it never ends.
@sallycinnamon5370
Ай бұрын
My work mom talked about it it incessantly. Date and sleep with whoever you want…careful who you breed with because they are there forever
@paranrmlgrl
Ай бұрын
Same. I’m so sorry 😢
@rebeccadobbs5277
Ай бұрын
I feel no matter why she unalived him it’s gonna be traumatic.
@A2foor
Ай бұрын
Your absolutely right! Mines been locked up for 15 years and still manipulates things in my life somehow.
@profd65
Ай бұрын
Has nothing to do with whether Ashley Benefield acted in self defense.
@Wulfe156
Ай бұрын
Emotionally, mentally, or physically, when abused it affects you the rest of your life.
@lillyvalley5510
Ай бұрын
Fled 4months pregnant with 1bag in my hand. Still though my hands up 30years later when people move to quick. I believe her.
@lisajeter9511
Ай бұрын
My husbands ex wife is still TRAUMATIZED BY MY HUSBAND and they’ve been divorced for 27 years.
@HailDanielle
Ай бұрын
@@lisajeter9511 by your husband? I’m so sorry. Maybe he needs to be your ex husband as well? Stay safe
@syon600
Ай бұрын
I'm still traumatised by ex who died without actually hitting me. He died 8 yrs ago and his behaviour and words are still fresh in memory and damage. I would never use a gun though.
@monasantos3346
Ай бұрын
@@syon600and I would not be alone with him
@judyaustin652
Ай бұрын
As a survivor of DV I have recognised so much in her behaviour. I’ve done appeasement, walking in egg shells, doing anything to get through the day … her help for moving is a motivation for a greater good to get away … I was told I wasn’t capable we find our capability to leave in many ways… there’s no one size fits all, it’s all down to an escape route
@mynameiseve.1
Ай бұрын
yes!!!
@GigiWright
Ай бұрын
Only a DV victim then you can understand how living on pins and needles does to your nervous system. It's hell and many never recover.
@catelewis7223
Ай бұрын
Yes, changes your life forever.
@mandystrong8196
Ай бұрын
She didn’t live with him! Hadn’t lived with him in years! This isn’t a case of a battered wife trying to leave. She lured him there. It’s was a ruse.
@ashleyboyer
Ай бұрын
@@mandystrong8196could be however, in my opinion she had no reason to kill him. They were wrapping up the case in Manatee county , where a man can literally get unsupervised time sharing w a child while admitting to shooting a gun in the house on the record and say he did it because she made him mad , and she wouldn’t stop talking. They were moving to another state . She was getting a change of venue, in most places if a man were to outright admit to that type of behavior including throwing a firearm at their spouse ( loaded) they would not have unsupervised visitation and she would have an active restraining order. She was about to go somewhere that they would believe her because he admitted to everything on the record in depositions. He knew this and I think he attacked her.
@missm108
Ай бұрын
@@mandystrong8196 she still had to deal with him regularly-
@PoirotFanGirl
Ай бұрын
I survived a 30 year abusive marriage, Ashley's histrionics are the reasons us true victims are not believed. She's a manipulative and dishonest person and hopefully she'll be found guilty of the murder she committed
@1sweetmess
Ай бұрын
The abuse that I endured was physical only one time in the beginning. Then it was mental, emotional, verbal, and fiancial. I was afraid to get any help in fear of being without a home. If my abuser went to jail they could lose their job. I asked family (in laws) for help and was told I was a drama queen. I was so gaslit that I felt like I was going crazy. I had no friends, couldnt work, and was isolated from my own family. I was embarrassed to ask for help and ashamed of letting someone treat me that way. I was hopeless, depressed, had major anxiety, noises startled me. I was close to a mental breakdown numerous times. It was extremely hard leaving. We have kids and pets. Its still hard not being in the relationship. I believe her. Just because I didn't kill my ex doesnt mean that i wasn't afraid for my life. We dont know how she felt in that moment. I think him being abusive prior and him shooting the ceiling is a big red flag.
@catelewis7223
Ай бұрын
Yes I hear you. I have similar experience.
@DeniseWalsh1
Ай бұрын
@AnastasiaBeaverhousen if someone is aggressive towards you, your body remembers and you are almost always afraid it will happen again.
@jeaniearmenta493
Ай бұрын
I'm so sorry you had to go through that and probably still going through 1 way or another and I hope you have people in your life that support love and believe you ❤
@pineywoodslawandcrime
Ай бұрын
I totally agree with you. However, in this case, the defense got in evidence that was not good evidence, and the state just fell apart. I don’t think the defense had any good evidence except for her testimony. And the State failed to make its case. I hope you’re safe now. ❤️🩹
@hollyvickers2497
Ай бұрын
@@AnastasiaBeaverhousenthe trauma is there from when she WAS trapped. Then he trapped her in the house.
@CassidyKB
Ай бұрын
If you cannot see Peter’s brilliance just in the way he interacts with the chat, you’re missing out. You want this man as your lawyer.
@exmrsbundycampbell7919
Ай бұрын
Yes, Peter IS brilliant. He is also too biased for Defense. You CAN go too far with that.
@glo-coopmumma
Ай бұрын
Agreed. Fair and wise.
@RightSideMama
Ай бұрын
One of my favorite things about Peter is he looks at these cases only through the “lawyer” lens and not the lens of emotion. It’s why I watch. While we all get emotional on our beliefs of guilt vs. Innocence Peter always does so well at reigning us all back in to see JUST the evidence as a juror would. Missed the poll but I’d have to say Not guilty. The state just hasn’t gotten there for me.
@OrphanAnnie681
5 күн бұрын
Hopefully as a juror would. I've been watching these trials for years and I have seen many juries convict in the face of an ocean of reasonable doubt.
@ashley6777
Ай бұрын
I was abused for 5 years. I never lived with him he just would stay at my house but kept his apartment. I took him back over and over again. I even got granted a restraining order by the courts with a ton of evidence and he convinced me to remove it and I took him back again. He never “hit” me. He choked me once and denied ever doing it. He scared the living hell out of me. I don’t own a gun but one night he pulled in my driveway at 2am, then pulled away, parked down the street and while I was looking out the front door, broke down my back door and charged me. If I have a gun I would have shot at him. I have never been so scared. This is real. Abuse comes in many different forms.
@DeniseWalsh1
Ай бұрын
Thank you for sharing your story. 🙏 I'm so sorry you experienced that. I hope you are doing well
@pineywoodslawandcrime
Ай бұрын
I pray you are safe and happy now. ❣️
@Type1MomRN
Ай бұрын
Praying for your continued healing! I agree with you, abuse comes in different forms….
@profd65
Ай бұрын
Has nothing to do with whether Ashley Benefield acted in self defense.
@ashley6777
Ай бұрын
@@profd65 it has everything to do with that. When there is a history there and he flips a switch and goes off, she thought she was going to die and reacted in self defence.
@janetshapiro5020
Ай бұрын
I like the expert saying I can’t help you with that, i’m not asking the questions!
@dragonbreath8769
Ай бұрын
Not being hit doesn't take away from violence. As far as I am concerned communication can be violent. Some of the most damaging to my life was not the being hit which was terrible but the verbal abuse took me years to overcome.
@elle91711
Ай бұрын
@@dragonbreath8769 💯!!!!
@catelewis7223
Ай бұрын
Yes emotional abuse can be worse.
@newnancardboard6968
Ай бұрын
Agree, but emotional abuse should never lead to murder!
@elle91711
Ай бұрын
@@newnancardboard6968 So by your statement, only if you have been physically abused in the past, can you act out of self defense in the moment, when in fear of bodily harm ?
@zeynepbadur2354
Ай бұрын
And showing readiness to shoot around.
@afishynado6812
Ай бұрын
As I heard the guy reading off the actions of abusers - particularly gaslighting, denying, diminishing abuse... it seemed an awful lot like what the prosecution was doing on cross.
@lorifeeney934
Ай бұрын
Missed the live poll, but I say not guilty. The state did not convince me that it was not self-defense. In fact, they didn't really have much of a theory of what happened. And the fact that the ME and other experts agreed with the defense contributes to my opinion.
@sallycinnamon5370
Ай бұрын
The only thing that they convince me of beyond a reasonable doubt is that the state of Florida prosecutor and cops wouldn’t know domestic abuse if it hit them in the face
@limiwa
Ай бұрын
That was a problem for me too. If not self-defense, then what happened? They really didn't flesh that out.
@lorifeeney934
Ай бұрын
@@limiwa and it is the state's burden to prove it was not self defense. Otherwise the verdict had to be not guilty.
@gunnybunny4081
Ай бұрын
It’s a shame when these cases are put together so poorly by prosecutors. IMO with as many shots as were fired it seems to be excessive force. I honestly think she’s probably getting away with murder & I believe they had an unhealthy relationship. She asked him over & it was as easy as calling him into the bedroom for help & shot him. Did he deserve to lose his life? I feel the most sorry for his daughters, the oldest one in particular who now lost both her parents!
@keiranbaker2268
Ай бұрын
I dont believe the defence proved self defence . I believe shes absolutely guilty and I think the state proved it . She lied so much and it's only her word that she was abused . Plus it came out with the defence witness that he was turning to get away when she shot him
@JeniRose_Designs
Ай бұрын
She picked that night because she was leaving Florida and the protections of STAND YOUR GROUND defense. She is GUILTY.
@stoutie18
Ай бұрын
Yup
@aidab7258
Ай бұрын
That's not enough to convict someone of 2nd degree murder. She could've murdered him anytime throughout those whole 4 years but did not.
@OrphanAnnie681
5 күн бұрын
That is just a nonsense conclusion based on your opinion, not any facts.
THank you! I can't believe even Peter appears to have lost his grip with logic with regard to this case.
@HeidiDalton-lx8ei
Ай бұрын
@@GabbyJackson-nc4gn you clearly missed or didn’t understand great portions of evidence, but are entitled to your opinion….I hope your knee doesn’t break your nose…. Respectfully.
@GabbyJackson-nc4gn
Ай бұрын
@@HeidiDalton-lx8ei ok KAREN thank you for the “ educated and substantial “ statement 😆
@luci-ferre
Ай бұрын
@@GabbyJackson-nc4gn emotional/verbal abuse goes to state of mind in the moment of shooting whether she feared for her life.
@GabbyJackson-nc4gn
Ай бұрын
@@luci-ferre and that’s very clear by Law . You can’t kill somebody cuz someone called you names or said something you didn’t like
@user-vv7ze9ii1t
Ай бұрын
that' s called "The Honeymoon Phase"... when they apologize
@terripetre8159
Ай бұрын
Honeymoon??? Doug kicked his first wife on Honeymoon. Nutcase abuser!
@glynn2023
Ай бұрын
Yep I learned that in DV counseling. There’s also love bombing going on as if that makes up for the horrible acts they commit!
@user-vv7ze9ii1t
Ай бұрын
Used to teach this for years... It's all about POWER & CONTROL!!!
@PoirotFanGirl
Ай бұрын
Except that the controller was Ashley not Doug
@sallycinnamon5370
Ай бұрын
@@PoirotFanGirl Not what literally any one has said except losers on the internet.
@PoirotFanGirl
Ай бұрын
@@sallycinnamon5370 okay Sally, my comment was not derogatory in regards to to you in any way, but thanks for showing what a quality person you are by calling someone you don't even know a loser, well done Sally, well done 👏
@sallycinnamon5370
Ай бұрын
@@PoirotFanGirl I know enough. You’re the one that identified as being part of the group that is ignoring the actual evidence.
@PoirotFanGirl
Ай бұрын
@@sallycinnamon5370 no Sally I simply expressed a different perspective and opinion than you and obviously you can't handle someone who has differing views, I have my own mind and don't belong to any "group"
@angelald8172
Ай бұрын
The man who hurt me did the full 9 yards. Choking, throwing, shoving locking me out of the house in my nightgown with my 8y old with no phone while keeping my infant inside. It was horrible, if I had been armed back then I may have on several occasions taken a shot. Although truthfully I'd have been afraid what would happen if I missed. Finally got a protection order and he moved around the corner! Literally nothing but a field, no houses between. I lived in town but on a "county island" so extra wait for a Sheriff to respond it was crazy. Over twenty years I forgave him fully, our son on the other hand refused to interact with him since he was 12, twelve years ago. I kept in touch and he had gotten himself mostly together. He passed away at age 51 last Friday, learned about it while watching this trial. Crazy flood of memories and conflicted feelings. Mostly sad that my son didn't reconcile as an adult before he passed. Last thing I want my child to live with is regret. Meh 😕 Thanks for letting me share 🌻
@HeidiDalton-lx8ei
Ай бұрын
@@angelald8172 thank you for sharing. I want to say I’m glad you’re free, but this must be a loss too- ?especially for your son….. 🕊️
@BGood-me4cq
Ай бұрын
I'm so sorry you went through this!! ❤❤❤
@cjinpa5713
Ай бұрын
I have been tore up by my cats when they were kittens and adults especially when they’ve been sick or needed vet care trying to get them in a carrier and they’ve never been knocked out or thrown anywhere let alone down steps. I do believe that being able to hurt animals and shoot holes in the ceiling are circumstantial evidence that supports her claims. As an abuse survivor I’ve had my heart race at the sight of someone from the back standing in a checkout line thinking it was a former boyfriend. I was a nervous wreck for the better part of an hour and it wasn’t even them. I left most of my belongings to get away with my life. Luckily I had no children with them so I can’t speak to having to see someone. That first Christmas I knew he was going to be in a rage calling around for me and I was right. Gave my mom the heads up to agree with any names he called me and to say she hadn’t seen me so he would leave her alone as well after. I agree with the self defense claim at this point do NG of murder. Guess we’ll find out with these 12 jurors and their own life experiences or lack there of.
@ashleyboyer
Ай бұрын
Only 6 jurors :( . But it’s my understanding that some of them have DV experience
@cjinpa5713
Ай бұрын
@@ashleyboyer oh ok thanks. Didn’t know it was only 6. That’s half as many that need to agree then. We should find out soon.
@louizianna80
Ай бұрын
The comment about DV is really valid. The word violence does cover ‘non physical’ but calling it violence stops victims coming forward. If the abusive relationship doesn’t involve physical violence victims often feel that they can’t report the abuse, or that their abuse isn’t as bad therefore it’s not worth reporting, or that people won’t believe them if there’s no violence. We should be calling it domestic abuse, we don’t want to make victims feel that their trauma isn’t valid.
@MakeupandMischief
Ай бұрын
I waited all day for you to cover this ! Also I wanted to comment on how different the comments are here where you are impartial, as opposed to Court tv , where everyone thinks she is guilty. It’s kinda crazy that we are all watching the same trial , just different coverage and coming to vastly different conclusions. 😊
@sydludwig1826
Ай бұрын
I agree with you. I believe she was abused and had to defend herself.
@KristenGeorge
Ай бұрын
I’ve said the same thing ! That I will never make a comment on Court TV again after how many people basically said I was stupid etc for my opinion. Thanks again Peter for creating such a great space ! I’ve been a trial watcher since Court TV began and find it fascinating to watch our judicial system play out - bottom line you need money and good attorneys to go up against the state
@AshleyH1188
Ай бұрын
Same! CourtTV's comment section is scary! And people are not nice
@sadie4me2
Ай бұрын
Court TV likes to dramatize everything! They’re all about their ratings
@jeaniearmenta493
Ай бұрын
Melanie little,and legal bytes both those chats are mostly pro Ashley 😊
@elle91711
Ай бұрын
On the rewatch crew here …. The fireworks behind Peter made my day ❤
@sherrybacon8041
Ай бұрын
I think they proved she was telling it truthfully the way it happened. I feel like battered wife syndrome. I was never hit, I was afraid all the time. He was an alcoholic and blacked out. With Doug shooting in the ceiling, abuse of the pets... His talk about when she was on her trip seemed to show he was really nuts.
@dfury60
Ай бұрын
Peter, you have taught me so much about how to look at these cases. Emotions used to be my normal go to or gut feeling. Now I pay attention to the actual evidence and understand if the State does not prove their case, it's not guilty. It helps to keep the gut feeling at bay.
@tammyalbertsen9522
Ай бұрын
What seems missing from these comments is that Ashley could've been in an abusive relationship AND also have done some things herself that appear counterintuitive for an abused person. Both things can be true at the same time.
@olgalcorona5628
Ай бұрын
I kept my abusive relationship hidden for years. I was hoping it would get better and never did. I was putting my daughters in a mental abuse situation because they were in the middle of the abusive relationship. I’m glad he left when I asked him to leave and he left. It was such a relief.
@AnnBluzgirl
Ай бұрын
I am a survivor of Domestic violence, physically and mentally and I can resonate with her. It's horrible and degrading. It's been over 30 years for me and I still have never got over it and am still traumatised when I think of it. Not Guilty.
@LLcoolDay
Ай бұрын
Yeah it doesn't ever really go away does it? That trauma changes your DNA
@AnnBluzgirl
Ай бұрын
It certainly does. It stays with you forever 😢@LLcoolDay
@mynameiseve.1
Ай бұрын
@@AnnBluzgirl😅sorry for my rant...it just really bothers me🤯
@AnnBluzgirl
Ай бұрын
@@mynameiseve.1 you have nothing to be sorry for xx I do it all the time lol
@AnnBluzgirl
Ай бұрын
@mynameiseve.1 Don't be sorry hun, all domestic violence survivors should be heard, your rant is a good thing 🙂
@alexperkins8433
Ай бұрын
can i just say having your young child out front picketing dont send my mommy to prison indefensible. uncool.
@lauramclaren3
Ай бұрын
Well it’s not like her daughter doesn’t know what’s going on.
@rick-grim
Ай бұрын
💯 manipulative using the daughter. I think AB was hoping that jurors coming to court before the first court date would see her. She manipulated DB with the daughter as well. Neither AB nor DB are protagonists, but only DB is dead.
@lawnerddownunder3461
Ай бұрын
It's not her daughter
@Profeces
Ай бұрын
I think a point that everyone missed with the Real Estate guy is that on Cross he said that Doug was going to ask Ashley first. How, exactly, was he going to do that when he's not allowed to contact her? That would breach the no contact order. The defense missed a very valuable moment there, to point out that moving into the house was a violation, but calling to ask permission before doing it, is ALSO a violation.
@13hickory
Ай бұрын
Her mother would never of left her with him if she was that afraid of him. It smells of a comeplete set up. She is crafty and gas lit this guy into asshole behaviours
@MEshaoWords
Ай бұрын
Lol idk, I think Sarah Boone’s 100% gonna be a slam dunk and we DEFINITELY want you to cover that one 😂
@maliamarin5718
Ай бұрын
She’s a real sicko nut job! I think i know people like her 😂 lol.. But seriously its mind blowing she was able to go thru 6 attorneys!😅 lock her up already!!!
@bethnshermy
Ай бұрын
She didn't have full custody. I understand her mindset just from being in a mildly emotionally abusive relationship. My ex was toxic, but I wanted him to be happy, so he would be kind to our child. I kept trying both in and out of the relationship, thinking it would keep the peace for all of us. Can you imagine having to hand your infant over to someone you believe had abused you?
@sallycinnamon5370
Ай бұрын
Can you imagine giving your infant to someone that hurt a dog because it accidentally scratched him? What if the baby pees on him? My infant scratched my face with his talons and made me bleed? What if that happens? What if the baby won’t stop crying? Will he get frustrated and shake it?
@cmaggior1
Ай бұрын
Exactly. No trust there, and hand over your baby. Wasn't even like she was a 10 yr old?!?
@HailDanielle
Ай бұрын
@@bethnshermy No I can’t imagine that. I also didn’t see the evidence of required visitation. Most likely the courts would have mandated supervised visitation if abuse were suspected. But we never heard from any of the doctors who were said to have reported the abuse. I think that speaks volumes. I know how the courts work and they usually favor the mother. I feel bad for her child. Just because Ashley is a woman that doesn’t mean she is innocent.
@Igotnothin_
Ай бұрын
@@sallycinnamon5370this is a fair perspective, but he had kids and they seem well adjusted. The decision to withhold a child is not for one parent to make whether right or wrong
@rebeccah7306
Ай бұрын
Victims never pick the fucking night. You never choose you get a hand on your neck and thrown against the wall. This is trauma.
@profd65
Ай бұрын
Doug didn't pick the f*cking night. He didn't see what his abuser had planned for him.
@tinasanders5122
Ай бұрын
Exactly
@catelewis7223
Ай бұрын
You got that right...
@KarenAZona
Ай бұрын
Agreed
@HailDanielle
Ай бұрын
@@rebeccah7306 Is there evidence she got a hand on her neck and thrown against a wall?
@brendacurrie358
Ай бұрын
of course she did it !!!
@kathrynelkin1519
Ай бұрын
Had to add that it is widely known that the vast majority of intimate partner homicides occur when the victim tries to leave or after they leave. In 30 percent of homicides there was no prior physical violence. I worked with hundreds of victims of physical abuse and they all stated the emotional and verbal abuse was worse. This prosecutor is unbelievably ignorant.
@shbani1
Ай бұрын
@@kathrynelkin1519 yes! This! Thank you for the work you have done helping survivors.
@ValeskaTruax
Ай бұрын
She had already moved out months earlier. He had filed for divorce and she lured him back with hopes for a reconciliation. Not the acts of a DV victim, sorry. A normal DV victim is too scared to file charges, she filed all sorts of charges against him, none of them substantiated. Think about it!
@elle91711
Ай бұрын
@@ValeskaTruax I have thought about it … completely disagree with you ! But we can agree to disagree 😊😊
@IzzyMariel
Ай бұрын
@@ValeskaTruax check the court records. he never filed for divorce, she was the one who filed.
@carollucey111
Ай бұрын
She had already left him, had their baby and had an affair🙄
@fernandaolivares7926
Ай бұрын
Judging by comments, one thing that was painfully evident with this case is how little the general public understands of what is categorized as DV. Violence is NOT only physical and self defense does not apply only after you have been punched in the face or worse. Every single school should be giving children classes on this topic because parents seem to be completely confused. Also the way we are treating people who come forward with allegations of abuse is disgraceful, that cross examination was scarring specially given the fact the prosecutor did not have a single piece of evidence to disprove what she was saying. It was awful
@HeidiDalton-lx8ei
Ай бұрын
@@fernandaolivares7926 This This This!!!! Thank you Fern!
@diverightin9243
Ай бұрын
Agreeeeeee!!!!! Spot on!!
@missmentha
Ай бұрын
It took me 10years to realize I was in an abusive relationship in my 20s with an older man. Now it seems to me clear as day and I can see the red flags, but somehow I just couldn't back then. He never hit me, there wasn't a mark on me ever. But when he told me one night that he could kill me with his bare hands, I believed him and knew he was thinking about doing it while he looked at me. I got away, because of my work circumstances took me to another country and I'm forever thankful for that. It's hard to understand for people who have not been there but sometimes also for us who have been there. When there is unhealthy power dynamics, controlling, manipulation, subtly increasing tactics... It's crazy how fast things can escalate before you realize what has happened 😢 Ashley testifying triggered me so badly, I couldn't watch it all the way.
@ciecie16
Ай бұрын
You do realize she is the abuser right? And she’s pretending to be the victim to get away with murder? And you’re defending her.
@diverightin9243
Ай бұрын
@@ciecie16 there was no evidence that she was the abuser. Only your imagination. Did she punch a dog unconscious? Did she punch holes in the wall? Did she fire a gun into the ceiling while waiving it at her? Did she stalk him? Did she put a tracker on his vehicle? Did she abuse her ex who was found dead in her bed? Please talk to a counselor about what abuse is, then get back to us about your misconceptions.
@AngieLaMasa
Ай бұрын
This case is not about all of you that were actually abused. It’s about this girl trying to pretend she’s one of you, and getting away with murder.
@sbarmiueenl
Ай бұрын
To be precise, it's about proving that beyond a reasonable doubt.
@kingginger3335
Ай бұрын
One thing I've noticed is that whichever side the jury is sitting on in relation to where Ashley is sitting, she wears her hair down on that side to block her face from the jury. When she was on the stand, she wore the right side of her hair down. Sitting at the table, she's wearing the left side down.
@livecalm2246
Ай бұрын
Good catch but it’s the opposite. On the stand the jury is to her left and when sitting they are to her right. So she’s never blocking the jury.
@Shapeshifter7777
Ай бұрын
As a DV survivor i believe that self defense was NOT proven. Those of us who have experienced DV and abuse from a partner, lets not project our own experiences here because we are triggered by the testimony. I would NEVER have allowed him to be alone with me. Ever. Why did she invite him to her house to help with packing if she was deathly afraid of him and not at least have her mom there or a friend ???. I would have at least had someone in the house with me. THAT alone would cause me to vote guilty. Yes, Doug appears to be a very troubled man and very controlling and abusive to her which is terrible however did he deserve to die like that? I just cannot understand why she would have allowed herself to be alone with him like that. The other thing that disturbs me is that i get the distinct impression that she is performing. A performer can use their real experiences to exaggerate emotions in front of an audience and to me that is what she was doing with her appearance in this trial. Also her appearance in court, with the way she dressed, wearing no make up, scraggly hair etc is so dramatically drifferent from how she appeared in court pre trial its really remarkable and seems incredibly manipulative. Also, what was she doing with 3 loaded guns in her house just left out like that with a child in the house ?
@aussiemixedmediachic7406
Ай бұрын
I am a DV surviver and every copes and deals different with abusers. No one case is the same.
@Wendy-sn3mn
Ай бұрын
I am a DV survivor and I agree with you. I would not have invited him over in the first place. If he had to be there, I would also have someone with me. She lead him on, saying they would 'work on their relationship'. Then wears an engagement ring in front of him. She set it all up imo
@HeidiDalton-lx8ei
Ай бұрын
@@Shapeshifter7777 I find it interesting that you chastise DV survivors for making it about their own experiences, then turn around & do exactly that. I am not a survivor of DA btw. The job of the jury is to consider evidence, not bring in personal experience or bias. Respectfully, I don’t see you doing that either.
@Shapeshifter7777
Ай бұрын
@@HeidiDalton-lx8ei I AM a DV survivor so what are you talking about? I am not chastising anyone. I am entitled to my own viewpoint and it is my observations that i am expressing here. YOU are the one who is chastising me for expressing my opinion. not cool at all
@mdh1974
Ай бұрын
Anyone who says Ashley was not abused,put your daughter in ashley's place. He punched her pets, fired a gun, tracked her car, struck her head & blocked her exit would u consider your daughter a victim of abuse!
@Lenatmu
Ай бұрын
First off I wouldn’t let my daughter marry some old man if she was 24 secondly my daughter doesn’t suffer from low self esteem and thirdly she was taught to invest in herself and be independent first and don’t look for a free ride from a man. Ashley planned this during the time she went to get her gun she could have gotten her phone and dialed 911 - now she will spend a long time on prison and miss all her daughter’s milestones. Personally I don’t think it’s worth it
@tinasanders5122
Ай бұрын
@@mdh1974 well said
@13hickory
Ай бұрын
she completely set him up another Amber Heard
@luci-ferre
Ай бұрын
@@Lenatmu wouldn't 'let' them marry? Yeesh. Parents who think they have forever ownership over their children scare me almost as much as people who hurt animals. 👎
@livingforJesus2120
Ай бұрын
To all that have unfortunately lived through or didn't make it out alive just know that I see you, you are loved, you are enough no matter what, you aren't alone, you are heard,and you are needed. YOU MATTER! The man's recklessness with a firearm is enough for me to leave. Throwing a firearm at someone, shooting into the ceiling/wall, putting it to his head, waving it around like a lunatic. Who the hell does that? I don't deny that she was abused but I don't believe that she was defending herself the night everything happened. I believe she was so fed up that she snapped and she just so happened to have her weapon available. I never knew about the wheel of control but everything on it my ex did to me for 5 years and I barely made it out alive and still have memories and flashbacks still 8 years later and will for the rest of my life. It's just not something you can get over completely. Yes working through it a day at a time but you can't just shove it deep down ignore it and that it happened by the hands and heart of someone you loved. Unless you've been in the predicament you'll never truly understand what, how, and why but I hope and pray others never end up having to go through it. I don't wish it on my worst enemy.
@jodievukmir3187
Ай бұрын
I have a hard time understanding why she had one loaded gun hidden in the kitchen and two loaded guns in a bedroom with nothing else but a hamper and the two guns
@lawnerddownunder3461
Ай бұрын
She'd almost finished packing the entire house. A hamper is the kind of thing you leave to chuck.randon.last minute stuff in as you're walking out the door for the last time. I wouldn't be packing my weapons into a truck before I was walking out the door either.
@micahmoss4603
Ай бұрын
You were excited to almost have 100 people the first night I listened to you! Thank You! ❤
@letusgather...7820
Ай бұрын
To me it sounds like he saw her with the gun, started to turn away, she shot him in the side of the chest, he dropped down and forward (paralyzed) and she shot him in the leg (back to front and up the leg)...if he had fallen forward his head would have been away from Ashley, his feet towards her. Explains the leg shot. He was NOT coming towards her...he was turning away.
@julieo4580
Ай бұрын
The most dangerous time in the violent relationship is when the victim tries to leave. She said she was done and he wasn't going to allow it. Been there done that.
@Lexifer21
Ай бұрын
She'd been living separately for 3 years and was dating someone else. She'd already left.
@mandystrong8196
Ай бұрын
She left him 3 years prior!
@profd65
Ай бұрын
The most dangerous time, huh? Then why did she ask him to help her move, and choose to be alone in the same room with him?
@13hickory
Ай бұрын
she is lying and playing the amber heard game
@ritayoung6040
Ай бұрын
Never can tell what a jury will do. I was astonished anyone could vote Karen Read guilty.
@lauramclaren3
Ай бұрын
That’s the scary thing about our justice system. Guilt or innocence is based upon regular people’s thoughts and feelings.
@melissaxenawarriorprincess
Ай бұрын
@@lauramclaren3 so true.
@jenniferlong651
Ай бұрын
Yes exactly!!
@karenconway3490
Ай бұрын
What is not addressed in the Duluth power and Control wheels is the idea of gas lighting. Gas lighting can have long-term effects on victims of abuse. Gas lighting is probably in my opinion, the most insidious aspect of abuse to the victim. It can take years to trust your own instincts and your own perception of events.
@DeniseWalsh1
Ай бұрын
Aggression is never okay. Noone should ever feel unsafe around their partner - ever. ANY aggression is uncalled for.
@profd65
Ай бұрын
Except aggression by a woman that ends a man's life, you mean.
@amandasailsbury1878
Ай бұрын
Agreed. I’ve been living with my husband for 14 years. Never once have I felt in danger or feared for my safety or for our children. I knew nothing about this case prior to trial, if I’m on that jury, she’s walking.
@HailDanielle
Ай бұрын
@@DeniseWalsh1 agreed. Poor Doug was probably so afraid when he was shot at 4 times. RIP Doug.
@user-mq6jr5ks3s
Ай бұрын
Caught a live!! Love listening to while I'm on the teeadmill!! Thanks so much for ALL you do!! So grateful!! 2:08
@Just_ice_forvictims
Ай бұрын
Prosecutors had 4 years to get ready and imo this is the lowest level of judicial work I have seen. If she walks free it’s purely states fault.
@miaanslow7213
Ай бұрын
Courts didn’t work on different claims and notice she never brought up abuse because it wasn’t there. This was her last hope
@susanlibra8726
Ай бұрын
She was not afraid of him.. she had no contact for a year or more living in a different state- as soon as he wanted to have visitation with his daughter she started the calls to police & CPS.. no charges against Doug.. so she started her OWN plan of manipulating an unstable man.. telling him to his face they were going to try & work it out but she really just wanted to get him in her house with her so she could execute her plan to kill him saying it was “stand your ground” .. also could Doug‘s arm have been out reached in her direction because he saw her pointing a gun at him and he was saying stop don’t shoot me… Why are we believing every word that she is saying?
@Wendy-sn3mn
Ай бұрын
I agree with you 💯
@sbarmiueenl
Ай бұрын
That is certainly possible. But has the state proven it beyond a reasonable doubt?
@jolenebordewick6168
Ай бұрын
It took me two years after he died to stop looking for my abuser on every street corner. I only felt safe inside my locked home. The fear took ages to dissipate
@Karenseiley
Ай бұрын
Same, I still white knuckle the steering wheel when I see a vehicle that looks like the he drove.
@jodievukmir3187
Ай бұрын
And why did she keep asking him over to help her move? If she was afraid of him, just hire somebody for God's sake those college kids will do it for a hundred bucks
@sharonteetzel1968
Ай бұрын
I find it very hard to cry tears. I have experienced so much trauma in my life that my tears don't come. I couldnt even cry at my husbands funeral. I hate that she is judged by "no tears" 😔😔😔
@cathy1672
Ай бұрын
I do not see how her experience as she claimed without others support justified her shooting him. There must be a higher standard to kill someone. I don’t believe her story. I don’t think his actions to try to be in the child’s life is unreasonable. She had told many lies, like poisoning, that do not make her credible. I see the prosecutors case and believe it. She should be found guilty.
@zulu1184
Ай бұрын
Just a point of order - surely the correct question is “Did the state disprove self defence?”
@MonibooFinebean
Ай бұрын
i dont blame her for realizing the marriage was a mistake with this guy . BUt I still think she was conniving with the baby , i think it was all about her waiting a life without him. But she could not shake him so...
@brandybiscoff9685
Ай бұрын
Exactly. And what kind of a vindictive person does it take to try to terminate parental rights before a child is even born, when he really hasn’t done anything to harm her or the unborn baby? Sad that some people seem to be buying her BS. I do think Doug had some issues too, he wasn't perfect, but I don’t think he was abusive at all.
@JLynne-dg9mh
Ай бұрын
wonder what a psyche eval may have shown.... Borderline and/or a Malignant Narcisst use the restraining orders, allegations of child abuse, etc. for leverage in a divorce and if things don't go their way it can turn deadly. There is a specific playbook they all follow if they want to remove a spouse from the picture. Sadly it happens and it is all so unfair to real victims of abuse.
@keiranbaker2268
Ай бұрын
There was actually no evidence shown she was a victim of dv . Only her own word and she lied so much and got caught out . Plus he was turning away when she shot him according to the defences witness . I think the state proved her guilt and not self defence . She may still walk but i think shes guilty of murder
@Nicci82
Ай бұрын
When he shot the hole in the kitchen ceiling, he was showing her what he wanted to do/could do to HER. When he punched holes in the walls, he was showing her what he wanted to do/could do to HER. When he punched the dog unconscious, he was showing her what he wanted to do/could do to HER. That's abuse. That's the underlying current. Doesn't matter how much time has passed. It's there. Then he pushed her around, gave her snidey bumps with boxes, trapped her in a room and took a fighting stance (which I 100% believe he did). Guess what current came to the surface? I'd find her Not Guilty.
@elle91711
Ай бұрын
@@Nicci82 I believe she testified that after he punched holes in the wall, that he even said you’re lucky I punched the wall and not your face 😳
@LenoreGuarino
Ай бұрын
You believe everything she says. It’s only her claim he punched the dog. It is not what happened . She tried everything to keep him out of their life except allowing him to come help on day of move . If she was afraid of him what would she invite him. Makes so sense
@Nicci82
Ай бұрын
@@LenoreGuarinoThe state even accept that he punched the dog unconscious, shot a hole in the ceiling and punched holes in the wall. They even told the Jury that they'd hear about those kind of acts in their opening. Didn't even call an objection when those acts were described in court🤷♀️ Why wouldn't I believe it??
@Nicci82
Ай бұрын
@@elle91711Jesus, missed that bit 😮😮
@catelewis7223
Ай бұрын
Well said. Many people if they have not experienced this behaviour have no idea and just say Guilty. I hope there are some jurors who know about this kind of abuse.
@zahavah8
Ай бұрын
The power and control wheel is SO well-known and well-studied in DV-adjacent fields... the prosecutor's questions reveal the depths to which she didn't bother to learn or understand DV in any way.
@ashleyboyer
Ай бұрын
@@zahavah8 they are very anti acknowledgement of dv in that area of Florida.
@crysharris9374
Ай бұрын
When she said he never hit her, she just proved that she didn’t get hit.
@rhondapotter128
Ай бұрын
I totally agree with you sir...yes...you are usually covering cases that are the hardest. I love love love the commentary...I love you answering questions because 9 times out of 10...I have the same question. I literally don't listen to anyone else but you!!!
@tracysires2234
Ай бұрын
I am not able to get past her inviting him to help her move, when leaving is the most dangerous time for an abuse victim..... why did she send her mom and daughter away if she was so scared? She had a boyfriend who could have helped. Doug wasn't armed, and he was shot in the side, from a good distance, which, tome, seems like he was turning away, possibly trying to run when he saw her draw the gun, NOT that he was coming at her. To me, defense did not show that she was defending her life.
@megnoel32
Ай бұрын
I agree.
@Dee-j2n
Ай бұрын
I absolutely agree with you 💯
@cathygarton917
Ай бұрын
I thought he just showed up without invitation.
@LeanneRigby-iy7nx
Ай бұрын
@@cathygarton917no not at all, trheees so much more to this look at her stand my ground case and you’ll get it.
@ViennaDarlingvd
Ай бұрын
But this is how victims work. This happens all the time - she wasn’t afraid when she invited him to help. I forgot the exact statistics but DV victims usually go back several times before escaping or dying. I agree it doesn’t make sense but I’ve watched two friends stay in slowly escalating relationships, break up multiple times but always go back (luckily both got away before things turned physical) but it was bizarre to watch my intelligent and lovely friends keep going back to these terrible people.
@karilyons1045
Ай бұрын
As someone who has been through this with a child I will say that abused people try to keep the peace. Even when afraid. Especially once you go into Family Court and are told you are now being accused of alienating your child against the parent you are saying abused you simply because you don’t agree with said abused parent having time alone with child. It’s a nightmare and I can tell you the courts and so called “specialists” abuse the person that is trying to prove abuse just as much as the original abuser. It’s tragic and sad. I say that because just because she had him come help move doesn’t mean he wasn’t an abuser.
@kristyreynoldsapaintersdau9016
Ай бұрын
Way to go! So glad the witness put her in her place!!!
@lindamcgough3645
Ай бұрын
The fact that he admitted to punching that dog is enough for me to believe he's dangerous. 100% a psychopathic trait.
@YolyW66
Ай бұрын
Read the court documents. The dog was never punched. Just look at the stand your ground hearing.
@Jendrew6014
Ай бұрын
Hey Peter! Replay crew here - just want to say I learn so much from your coverage and I think your balanced way of looking at things may be rubbing off on me! Thanks!
@user-qs3ty4iy8l
Ай бұрын
I’m a DV survivor - all of this resonates. No childhood background of abuse and I don’t even know what it was when it was happening. but hearing trials like this make me realize how close I came to becoming a statistic. I don’t know if she’s faking her emotions in court, but she was definitely abused.
@f.r.etling6226
Ай бұрын
She had all her stuff packed up, except her guns. Shes guilty
@Glocks.Scotch.and.Wristwatch
Ай бұрын
You would pack those last. You don’t leave guns in a vacant house or loose in a moving van. I’ve literally done this.
@askdave8581
Ай бұрын
The guns shouldn't have been there. It's illegal to transport a gun to Maryland (4-203).
@Glocks.Scotch.and.Wristwatch
Ай бұрын
@@askdave8581 can’t speak to that. I’m not American.
@tammymcclarty8272
Ай бұрын
But keeping them in hamper is better lol
@steelhurricane4041
Ай бұрын
She had them all the guns loaded in different parts of the house.
@rachelj3806
Ай бұрын
She can be a victim of domestic violence, and at the same time be guilty of murder. I don’t think the point of the case is whether or not he is abusive, but whether or not she had to kill him.
@gamigirlHeatherB
Ай бұрын
💯
@Sunnshinne35281
Ай бұрын
Thank you for your rational thinking. I’m drowning in all the comments of people that can’t separate the two.
@madarlin4468
Ай бұрын
Woot!Woot! Congratulations LYK on 415k, well deserved❣
@THEONLYHRH
Ай бұрын
I came in at the start of the trial thinking she was guilty. I now think there’s lots of reasonable doubt.
@janetshapiro5020
Ай бұрын
j have no video of Peter? do others see him?
@elle91711
Ай бұрын
@@janetshapiro5020 you should have Peter on the video
@sallycinnamon5370
Ай бұрын
I thought she was guilty because of all the rumours and the over-reliance on her concern about poisoning. They conveniently left out all the rest of the more typical abuse patterns.
@KristenGeorge
Ай бұрын
@@mishyd802think you misread his comment -could be wrong he said came in thinking guilty- but now lots of reasonable doubt. I would vote not guilty- the woman explaining the gunshots how they could have happened made so much sense - I see zero upside for her to commit murder … hope the jury sees it this way .
@Katrina-qs2rl
Ай бұрын
She's admitted to murder. Doug has not been convicted of DV. She's got no physical wounds. Something stinks.
@monicalewis5966
Ай бұрын
She provoked him. She was not afraid. When you conceal carry you are not afraid you are empowered. She not a victim. She's a performer
@samanthapage2892
Ай бұрын
I do not believe a word she says. I believe she is guilty and knew what she was doing
@emmamccartney5877
Ай бұрын
He admitted what he done she did not and never will she's a total liar
@donna.207
Ай бұрын
Come on, he was only there bc she asked him to be there. I am so aggravated that she may get off...the State Atty did a sh*t job and missed many opportunities in the case. I got so upset, bc I think she planned to kill him w one of the 2 guns she had available to her, that I didn't or couldn't watch the whole trial. Idk if you mentioned she has her daughter and mother outside the courthouse holding signs like let my mommy go free. She wasn't the least bit afraid of him. These comments from people who have been victims...any of you shot to KILL your spouse? No. She shot 6x and intended he be dead. Not wounded so she could "escape" or she could have not sent lovey dovey texts or had her mom stay or NOT invite him over. The State should have charged her w 1st degree as well as 2nd - if it could have.
@blank157
Ай бұрын
You can’t “provoke” a person in control of their emotions. Abusers lose control of themselves in attempt to gain control of their victims.
@ashleyboyer
Ай бұрын
@@blank157 this is so well put
@piratepaper9611
Ай бұрын
My problem is that he was shot in the back of his leg and the right front side of his chest. I don’t find it plausible that he was running away, took the first shot in the back of his leg, then turned back around to get shot in the chest. Another more plausible case is that he was turning to run, took the first shot in the chest, then while running was shot in the leg. But then how did he receive the bruise on the back of his head? He “pirouetted” as he fell? The most plausible explanation to me is that he was first shot in the chest, fell backwards, back of head knocks the ground, as his leg was off the ground, it was shot. I have searched but could not find the following which could make the last explanation less plausible, such as: • Doug’s final resting position, were his legs pointed towards Ashley? • Was he on his back, or on his face? • Was his head close to the wall? If his head smack into the wall, it would seem less likely that the fall would cause his legs to go up in the air • Image of the entrance and exit wound to Doug’s leg. Despite what was contended in the ME’s testimony, being shot in the back of the leg while turned around vs while the leg is in the air is very different (one scenario’s leg will be 180 degree rotated from the other) If Doug were running, the bullet trajectory would differ from if his leg was up in the air (ie. steeper angle of trajectory through the leg, left-to-right trajectory vs right-to-left trajectory, etc.)
@worsethanjoerogan8061
Ай бұрын
I'm skeptical of the self defense
@Nurseydogmom
Ай бұрын
Skeptical is still NG… it needs to be more confident than that.
@ElizabethNNN
Ай бұрын
Crazy that prosecution was saying well no abuse happened for months and months! (Yea because the injunction was active!) it makes sense that the abuse would go down, and that she would refile when it was about to be up to make sure the months and months without abuse continued…. The prosecutions defense Friday really disgusted me.
@barbarahenninger6642
Ай бұрын
I felt like they either didn't understand DV or they wanted to win too much.
@carolpurdy5244
Ай бұрын
There was NO injunction in place. AB murde*** Doug in 2021. The injunction you speak of was from 2017 in SC.. She was the abuser and used Emerson to control him. She had lived separately from Doug for 3 years. Her testimony did not make me believe her because it lacked specific examples of what us real survivors can speak on. She is traumatized because she had the memory of her actions when she took his life. I 100% believe she is guilty, but it’s Florida and they are known for letting people walk. Doug was abused by her. He is the real victim. She used false allegations to get him charged and when it didn’t work for herself, she started allegations against their daughter. She is vile! She planned this so she could go to Maryland and have Emerson to herself. She even threatened that she would start a new case as soon as she got there. Guilty!
@Mimijohns71
Ай бұрын
WTH is wrong with those prosecutors ignorant of coercive control and Domestic violence
@DeniseWalsh1
Ай бұрын
Agreed - their attitude is horrible
@rdw2457
Ай бұрын
YES! It’s INSANE!!!!
@ashleyboyer
Ай бұрын
@@DeniseWalsh1that is the general attitude toward domestic violence victims in manatee county and the way they set up custody in that county is tantamount to court ordered abuse if you are unfortunate enough to have a child with an abusive person.
@KristenGeorge
Ай бұрын
I did think it was interesting that therapist was a detective and law enforcement
@roowah33
Ай бұрын
Again as someone who lived in this cycle of abuse.. I understand 100% the good days and bad days and how they manipulate you to live in the future of hope things will get better.. you always want the fairytales but they continue to give you the nightmare.. it’s hard to explain to anyone how a rational person can accept this but it’s 100% accurate…you can love and hate that person from one day to the next.. my ex was a full blown narcissist psychopath and everyone loved him.. victims always try to keep the monster at bay.. its very real…
@JOHNNYSGIRL1960
Ай бұрын
Did you k*ll him?
@katieyoung873
Ай бұрын
I do feel like there is isolation…the cruise is great example of jealousy.
@ashleynicolette1
Ай бұрын
“I can’t help you with that. I’m not asking the questions “ ugh … good for that expert ! Love Peter’s reactions. I vote not guilty as a person who came into this case having watched videos and believed she was guilty. The evidence and trial has changed my mind.
@rdw2457
Ай бұрын
In short, I do think Ashley killed him but not in self-defense, and so far the State has failed to prove that… they may be able to wield some professional magic in closing arguments… we’ll see. Ashley chose that moment because the jig was up… the “plan” was that they were to be moving together, but Ashley was just stringing him along. (Move scheduled to happen in a day or 2 hence the U-Haul packing.) To what end? She’s a master manipulator & wanted her daughter to herself. The text strings show this, and one of her counselors testified on the stand that she had no intention of reconnecting with him. Please understand that I get domestic violence & fervently stand with survivors. But because Doug was abusive at times (just can’t forgive any animal abuse) doesn’t mean that she wasn’t also abusive to him. Personally? I think she knew how to use his anger against him… it’s a thing. I’m just appalled by the prosecution’s fumbling… it’s just unbelievable. No one wins in this, especially not his two daughters.
@Sunnshinne35281
Ай бұрын
10000% this. I just don’t believe her account of what happened that night. And if her account of that night isn’t credible, it doesn’t matter what happened before (of which there’s a lot I don’t believe there, either). Because it’s only self defense that night! You can’t claim you were scared of him three years ago so you shot him tonight. Your story of self defense and what happened that night must be credible-and it just wasn’t. I don’t believe he got mad and demanded that “she act like a wife” and “he can stay the night if he wants to” Her mom was coming home. What? Was he just going to stride around and hold the whole family hostage like he’s playing man of the house? Act like that’s normal? “I can stay if I want! Tell your mom to bring me my slippers!” He’d never demanded to stay before, why would he do this now? The mom would get back and wonder why he was staying. I don’t think “because I’m her husband and I want to” was going to fly. And what, when he was threatening her she never once thought to point out that her mom would be back soon? She didn’t mention it in testimony, so it must not have happened… But wouldn’t any rational person try to diffuse the situation by reminding them that others are on their way there? No one else ever witnessed his violence. And he had never physically harmed her before. Ever. But she was convinced that on this day that it was going to go from never any physical harm to her, to kill or be killed, when her mom could be back any second? I do not believe the things that she claims he said. I do not believe it happened the way she said. I just don’t believe her. And if your account of self defense isn’t credible, then none of it is.
@maplecrazed
Ай бұрын
I’ve been the victim of dv. I think some do not understand fear. Once you are afraid it is always available for easy access. In a domestic sitch you are trying to go along to get along but you still have access to that fear.
@mountainmama8932
Ай бұрын
Well done as always, Peter. Thank you.
@Axelsmom
Ай бұрын
On the night in question, If she was afraid, why did she allow her mom and daughter leave?
@ServiteJack
Ай бұрын
To keep them safe? See these aren’t FACTS That PROVE guilt or not. They needed MORE But I’m afraid “Jurors don’t seem to go by “w/out a Reasonable Doubt”. Not in my exp.
@Wendy-sn3mn
Ай бұрын
She wasn't afraid of him in the least. She told her mom to leave and she had her guns loaded and ready to use in different parts of the house. She was ready to be rid of him imo
@ServiteJack
Ай бұрын
@@Wendy-sn3mn GUESS I WASNT ALL THAT CLEAR. Each of these DV situations Can EASILY PROVE BOTH THE DV Scenario OR A Custody Battle gone evil. THE POINT IS THESE FACTS CAN BE ARGUED IN EITHER DIRECTION. You Weren’t There! I Wasn’t There! The Prosecution Team REALLY NREDED TO BRING IN FACTS That ONLY REALLY SHOW ONE-ANSWER FOR Opinion means nothing! Except of course from his now an adult daughter who DID KNOW ASHLEY & THEIR RELATIONSHIP and they BARELY asked her anything. IDK why. But THESE THINGS?? THEY DONT PROVE A THING! They only end up proving both sides case! bc a victim of DV makes the same choices.. as wld the guilty. “One’s Feelings” shld Not Be wht determines Guilt or Not Guilty by Jurors. Nor by us.
@majkolsson7192
Ай бұрын
I get it might be a strange thing to put so much weight on, but I love how Peter reacts all happy and impressed when the graphic do fireworks automatic. I think so many cerators had reacted almost offended, like, ”John, I did not concent to that!” But Peter is such a genuinly cool guy.
@derecho42
Ай бұрын
I think she did it on that night because she really didnt want him joining them with the move. She wanted to move on without him.
@judyseals1497
Ай бұрын
@@derecho42 I think she intentionally triggered him saying he mixed her belongings with his in the moving van, she wanted hers loaded last so they’d be first unloaded when they got to Md. How convenient that her mom and daughter were at the park. Therefore no witnesses, just her saying she shot him in self defense. I don’t understand if things were escalating why she didn’t get out of there, go to the neighbors or call the police if Doug wouldn’t leave. I’m not believing self defense.
@susanyamini
Ай бұрын
At the end of the day she took the gun and killed him. Guilty as hell.
@scottrs
Ай бұрын
Here’s my gut before closing. I’m on the fence with both my legs on the guilty side. Closing I hope makes me jump but I’m pretty sure it won’t. But I have to go with my gut and I am so conflicted so that means reasonable doubt
@justkim9827
Ай бұрын
At least you're being honest 🤷♀️ more than can be said about most other people who think she may be guilty. You're the type of person a defendant should hope for on the jury.
@scottrs
Ай бұрын
@@justkim9827I’ve been on a jury, not a murder trial but a drunk driving charge. I still think about it today. We compromised with a lessor charge but….. it was on private property, no evidence of defendant on a public road. The compromise to me now is a sellout. The lessor charge was one of no jail time and so it was justice in my mind.
@kitcatkit6240
Ай бұрын
I went in thinking she was manipulative and guilty. After listening to the trial and his past history all I can think is stand your ground and she didn’t end up another Gabby Petito. I don’t like guns but my understanding the legality of a gun is to protect yourself when youre life is in danger. There’s a history of abuse and he cornered her threatening her life and she used her 2nd amendment to protect herself. This is either a consequence to living in a gun friendly country OR women just aren’t taken seriously when they’re being abused because they aren’t “hit”
@melissalindquist284
Ай бұрын
When I left my abusive spouse when I was very young and naive, I was terrified that if I left him he would go crazy. I left him on Thanksgiving day while he was eating with his family. (I had taken the car to my moms to eat without him because he refused to do anything with my family. Halfway through dinner, I said mom let’s go get my stuff. We took my mom’s friend’s truck, and packed up everything I could get because I knew I was never coming back or I would never get out. I took my cat because he would have killed it. I hid my car for months because he threatened to destroy it with a baseball bat. Never would I have asked him to help me pack that day. That’s what I can’t get past with this chic.
@saphiraaestiva9331
Ай бұрын
@melissalindquist284 not everyone gets to the point of leaving like that sadly. My own mother is in an abusive relationship and I know she isn't leaving even though she would be much happier if she did. Not everyone has a clear way out
@My-22-Cents
Ай бұрын
Same. My ex went to prison for what he did to me. I don’t believe this woman and her actions Vs her claims. No way on earth I’d ever contact him again if I was able to get out sooner. And haven’t ever since. He may have been threatening and manipulative, but that doesn’t justify her murdering him.
@hollyvickers2497
Ай бұрын
@@melissalindquist284 what if a court ordered you split custody with your cat with him 50/50? And no matter how many times you reported abuse of your cat they didn't believe you? At some point you would have to relent and just try to get along as best you could for the cat's sake and letting him pack his stuff w yours like he wants because he abused the cat less that way.
@My-22-Cents
Ай бұрын
@@saphiraaestiva9331but this woman was already out. She already had left. What she says doesn’t ad up. DV perps don’t let you move out, much less when you’re pregnant. They isolate you from friends and family.
@samyarichards9629
Ай бұрын
My Dad helped us pack. Then He would show up anytime day or night. No matter where we lived he knew. My mom had to tell him.
@ronniecreed2972
Ай бұрын
Regardless if there was or wasn’t DV in the past it doesn’t justify murder and I firmly believe she intended this. I believe this was about custody and her taking away the child. She was losing. I’ve been in DV relationships and this just feels fishy. I think we keep opening windows for people to get away with murder. -Michelle
@ArtandGrace
Ай бұрын
MANY apologize so the victim doesn't tell anyone, report anything, etc!
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