They never even proved he died from being hit by a car. I can’t believe they didn’t have a verdict in ten minutes
@ldolan4051
2 ай бұрын
Agreed
@KathleenHelms-nq1vk
2 ай бұрын
Remember the Albert's paid alot of witnesses.
@ldolan4051
2 ай бұрын
@@KathleenHelms-nq1vk but proof is needed
@forpetessake3532
2 ай бұрын
juror plants - tht whole town is corrupt
@joannephillips4110
2 ай бұрын
Exactly!!
@axer3515
2 ай бұрын
What about his bosses who were responding to his inappropriate texts without telling him to knock it off? They care just as bad as him, maybe worse because they did not supervise him at the time.
@Maria.9094
2 ай бұрын
This!! Why is the media not asking about this? Shows this is a systemic issue that runs deep in that department.
@johannawigg6921
2 ай бұрын
They created that environment he felt comfortable in !!
@Maria.9094
2 ай бұрын
@johannawigg6921 yep, totally agree.
@sandralybrand9425
2 ай бұрын
The statement that Sh#t rolls downhill comes to mind!
@sandralybrand9425
2 ай бұрын
These days the media doesn't seem to ask the pertinent questions on anything serious anymore! They also base their reporting on their own opinions. I miss the days of honest hard hitting reporting, in other words honest journalism! 😭
@Mooshkie50able
2 ай бұрын
If she pled to a DUI? All the cops that admitted being drunk that drove that night should be charged the same!
@elainejohnson6955
2 ай бұрын
Unfortunately, they weren't tested.
@jasminerosepetal
2 ай бұрын
She wasn't charged with a DUI accept as part of the 3rd charge, DUI and leaving the scene of an accident, which was one of the ones the jury supposedly found her not guilty on. She didn't plead guilty on anything.
@Rpm6971
Ай бұрын
The only accident I’ve seen is her tapping John’s car on private property. Because it’s on private property it doesn’t have to be reported as an accident. My mom did something similar hitting a truck my dad had with his car on their own property. So clearly no accident report barely more than a scratch. So I don’t see how they can charge her with leaving the scene of an accident, unless their cover up works and the jury buys their own narrative of what happened. Which I don’t believe happened at all. And pathetic that Proctor is still receiving a government salary.
@burf90
2 ай бұрын
I was on a jury once. It's amazing how, if you do things right and don't discuss the case until deliberations, you can be completely surprised by how other jurors see the case. I ate lunch with and talk to one juror all the time. We could have been best friends in the making. Then we went to deliberations. And found out we were polar opposites on how we thought of the case and the evidence. Our jury did come to a conclusion and decided on an award (civil case) in the end, and deliberations weren't really contentious, but it was really eye-opening to me.
@mcc9040
2 ай бұрын
Behavior like Proctor's doesn't happen in a vacuum, it trickles down from the top.
@marygoff3332
2 ай бұрын
Yep. It's called "The Law of the Lid" - meaning, the people below the leader act like the leader or worse than the leader. But a good, honest leader would never have guys like Proctor working for him.
2 ай бұрын
The people of Massachusetts need to rebel against this ridiculous “suspension” of Michael Proctor. Taxpayer money pays his crazy high salary. There is no way this man should be getting paid on suspension. He needs to be decertified and never work as a LE officer again.
@wldncrzy1971
2 ай бұрын
His union will demand they go thru the steps before they can him entirely. I’ll be shocked if it goes that far-he’ll be rehomed with a promotion and better pay at another department.
@hillaryclinton1314
2 ай бұрын
The union needs to pay for his defense, not the people..
@julia.ok222
2 ай бұрын
💯‼️
@corky_cork
2 ай бұрын
@@hillaryclinton1314he should be paying for his own damn defence. We all heard his disgusting testimony.
@hopeflorence6748
2 ай бұрын
Considering the strong words from the Governor, I truly believe that she influenced this decision by MSP.
@maxbang1813
2 ай бұрын
Proctor wasn't fired. They sent him downstream. He was never reprimanded by an immediate superior. The problems in that department are clearly systemic and disgusting. The massachusetts police commissioner coming out and speaking of this today is a joke. That area has had multiple complaints.
@kathyw4212
2 ай бұрын
The FBI are investigating the investigation
@maxbang1813
2 ай бұрын
@@kathyw4212haha exactly
@gerry7590
2 ай бұрын
😂 Very laughable 😅
@beankocke4746
2 ай бұрын
I completely agree 👏👏 coming out after the dog pisses on the rug doesn’t do an anything for the ppl to trust them. If proctor aka “ ballon knot “ was involved in case myself or family was involved with in the past I’d be raising hell to get into what he did with it
@micheleeve6054
2 ай бұрын
This lecture by the Top Cop is ALOT of Baloney. IMHO
@douglasvine2516
2 ай бұрын
Letting the police investigate the police is like letting students grade their own tests.
@Hub-q6r
2 ай бұрын
Send in the FBI to do this
@seascape185
2 ай бұрын
I’m pretty sure the FBI is already investigating. They were the ones who took possession of the text messages on Proctors phone and the DA knew about this.
@danart11811
2 ай бұрын
Exactly. Too much impropriety within the MSP. Proctor and others brought shame a distrust they bestowed on the citizens
@heatherm2324
2 ай бұрын
Are you implying that people would not grade their work fairly? I find people are harder on grading themselves than others.
@lisaborries9205
2 ай бұрын
Funny. I’ve worked for some administrators who were bullies, incompetent, CYA types. They were eventually let go. Often things hv a way of working themselves out.
@lindsay-bay
2 ай бұрын
The MSP needs a total rehab and rehaul. I say this as a native. I’m sick and tired of the bs between state police labs being fraudulently mishandled a couple years ago, and obvious corruption.
@Poppytastic101
2 ай бұрын
Surely the Commonwealth needs to wait for an outcome in the FBI investigation before they decide whether to move forward with a retrial?
@judycook9937
2 ай бұрын
I heard the jury was hung up on "lesser charges" which means the jury instructions were so bad that they did not realize that since they acquitted her on murder ten they didn't have to go any further. Is that right if this was the case. What a messed up case. I feel like Judge Bev did everything she could to hurt the defense.
@Elizabethjewel
2 ай бұрын
That's been no where on the news.they were split
@Rae777
2 ай бұрын
The only way they would get to the lesser charges is if they acquitted her on murder 2. I also haven’t seen anything on the split from any reputable sources. Do you know if another juror spoke out? I’m so curious about the split
@lauramclaren3
2 ай бұрын
Anyone who would vote guilty on any of those charges do not understand the meaning of reasonable doubt. When reputable experts testify the defense’s theory was inconsistent with the injuries, there is reasonable doubt. The only way a juror could vote guilty after that would be the juror had a bias which caused a “personal belief” she was guilty or did not sufficiently comprehend the evidence presented at trial and/the jury instructions.
@JuleAllbright-pq1mq
2 ай бұрын
Yep , tried to outsmart everyone.
@JuleAllbright-pq1mq
2 ай бұрын
10/2 lean on guilty.
@rickiesurovich144
2 ай бұрын
184,000 dollar paid vaction how can you justify paying a cop that much
@michaelb8957
2 ай бұрын
Imagine what the higher up's make, you can look it up.
@MobettrMoves
2 ай бұрын
Is anyone really surprised, seriously? This is further proof that these law enforcement agencies involved want and reward officers that are willing to engage in illegal behavior to support their preconceived notions of guilt and innocence on the very citizens they are supposed to be protecting. They have completely demonstrated ,at the highest level to street level officers ,a propensity to enact frame-ups to support their cultish conviction culture and integral bias against certain populations in our society. Right now they're just in CYA mode and hope the public forgets. Proctor is a pathetic villain and so is anyone that gives him aid and comfort. Peter's comparison to pedophiles priests is spot-on. Free Karen✊
@snobbybeauty2210
2 ай бұрын
He’s a trooper, its higher than a normal cop. Im fine with this salary for someone investing crimes BUT this trooper don’t deserve a penny of this money. He’s disgusting
@eshootziscrs2868
2 ай бұрын
By charging $10 for MacDonald's, $4 for gas........most people think they are underpaid and need more training. I say they are exactly what is sought and bought. I don't have it is any accident that government agents act and think the way they do. No rebuke from the superiors. No immediate action taken. Proctor isnt "one of the bad apples". Proctor is just a slightly worse version of the general average. This department doesn't seem much different than so many others across the country. In fact, this seems to be a miniaturized version of what we see at the federal level. Proctor is just one festering pimple symptomizing a deeper disease. Lack of individual accountability and equal protection under the law, seem to be the things that when missing, result in situations like this coverup. What is clear and obvious is what isn't being discussed. We can be quite certain that John O'Keefe wasn't killed in the manner the state presented. The investigation was bungled, botched and "hyper-focusd" on proving an already reached conclusion. The evidence was irreparably tainted and impeached. The outcome of this prosecution, regardless of the verdict, is that no New suspect can reasonably be tried. Whoever committed the crime will never be prosecuted because the entire investigation / prosecution, was never intended to get a conviction. The entire coverup was done by mudding the waters , discrediting the evidence, showing the negligence and incompetence to hide the intentional nature. It is quite likely, at least some of the individuals involved in this coverup, actually believe(d) in Karen Read's guilt. The ends justify the means when motivation directs reason. Imagine trying to argue a conviction against Brian Higgins for killing John O'Keefe. The defense would simply point to this case as evidence of reasonable doubt. Who are we going to charge next week when this next prosecution fails? Brian Albert? The plow truck driver? The actual goal was accomplished and the chances of anyone breaking now depends on how the feds proceed. If they proceed. Time to move on according to the plan. Just thoughts.
@Gle7799
2 ай бұрын
Maybe they will replace hinn with trooper Paul. Not! Lol
@matthewnewton8812
2 ай бұрын
Guys- I was in the civil service game for a while so you can take it from me: Proctor is on his way out the door, permanently. The police unions are extremely strong, and the contract they have with police department makes cops un-fireable without a lengthy process of investigation, documentation, and review. Putting someone on paid leave is simply the first step in that process. The fact that he’s keeping his salary, again, means absolutely nothing and you shouldn’t read into that at all because there’s no meaning behind it whatsoever. That’s also part of the process. First you put them on administrative leave, then you do an internal investigation, then you begin the firing process, then there are hearings, the a decision is made, then there’s a review, then it’s finalized, and then he can appeal. After that, if his appeal is denied, he’ll be gone from the department forever and will be unemployable as a police officer anywhere in Massachusetts and probably the country. So, don’t worry. They’re on step one and I believe it’s a 30 day process in most places. So any bar owners in the area, y’all might wanna keep a lookout for a resume for a dishwasher spot open.
@koolblue6927
2 ай бұрын
I sure hope you are right. Also the the parties involved in the texts should be harshly admonished. Shameful!
@chantallennox1201
2 ай бұрын
Bet he ends up doing security work.
@susangilliam6400
2 ай бұрын
Thanks for information on the process.. we'll see😮
@marygoff3332
2 ай бұрын
@@koolblue6927the original poster is 100% correct. I have family members on the L.A. Sheriff's Dept and he outlined the process perfectly and accurately. 😊
@loriduffecy9205
2 ай бұрын
Wonder if wifey will get a divorce... She just told a reporter Karen read is a murderer....
@melissar6365
2 ай бұрын
Getting rid of Proctor is not nearly enough. Morrissey is a joke and he needs to go, as does Yuri, Tully and many others! There is so much corruption here it’s not funny. As a Mass tax payer, I don’t want to continue to pay there salaries, I want honest police that communities can trust and feel safe around! I’m someone who support the police in general, but what has been going on far too long is disgusting! There are good cops who have to work under this dark shadow. No one hates a dirty cop more than a good cop …. And the public they are supposed to serve. And, for that matter, every single PD in every town in Massachusetts needs to do the same starting with Boston and CANTON!! I’m hopeful the FBI have big plans for all that’s happening, and hoping they will help KR clear her name as innocent!
@NatCee
2 ай бұрын
Shame on you MSP! You are a laughing stock worldwide!
@2colimited
2 ай бұрын
So MSP were quite happy to sit on their internal investigation and possibly see an innocent woman go to prison BEFORE looking to see if their own troopers planted evidence and let the possible murders go free? Not buying it, they left the trial to run to see if they could get away with it, they are as bad as Proctor! Should have acted immediately and told the DA that their evidence was unsafe.
@noelswo549
2 ай бұрын
Too bad she's not innocent
@poohsblusteryday8592
2 ай бұрын
I agree 💯 %. MSP is a really corrupt dept. I grew up in LE. Shananigans… yes, but not at this level. I moved to Mass a year ago. Folks are extremely afraid of MSP. Read is everyone of us. Look out, cops have TOO much power!
@stephanieperri7747
2 ай бұрын
Absolutely my thoughts too and I wonder if Karen was found guilty would they have done anything to Proctor ? This whole situation is a joke , if they cared so much they would’ve started investigating a long time ago. They’re just playing defense now
@brandondeloney813
2 ай бұрын
This trial got him followers. Zero cases that his dad wishes he would spend more time on
@B4iGo2it
2 ай бұрын
@@stephanieperri7747 yep, Damage Control
@truethat774
2 ай бұрын
As a punishment for his abhorrent behavior and beyond-bad investigation, he gets a paid vacation. Talk about BS.
@CuriousCat8010
2 ай бұрын
Proctor should’ve been gone a long time ago. Waiting for the trial to finish was dirty. They know it could’ve helped the defense so they waited. And he shouldn’t have been transferred, he should be fired. Hes not the only dirty cop there either, that’s for sure. Immediate action would’ve been a lonnnnnnnng time ago
@michaelb8957
2 ай бұрын
The state police superintendant held a news conference stating this conduct would not be tolerated,blah,blah. He did a great job of BS. He should be removed also.
@Justice.Is.Truth.444
2 ай бұрын
Tully and Buchinik should be gone too!
@krissijane6189
2 ай бұрын
Why would it effect the trial if the jury wasn't supposed to be watching news or listening to anything about this case during the trial ?
@khastanien3476
2 ай бұрын
@@krissijane6189 because the defense would've used it as ammunition to put even more holes into the CW's case
@ST-tt8qt
2 ай бұрын
They are dirty, right, it all comes from the top. If they had good management non of this would be allowed.
@jeanineleigh3053
2 ай бұрын
I can’t help but think if she was found guilty nothing would’ve happened with him at all.
@debbymacdonald4842
2 ай бұрын
If the Commonwealth rep tries this case, they need to get rid of that biased judge because she did not help the defence in anyway she was all for the prosecution and that’s not right. She’s supposed to be not biased. She needs to be removed from the case for sure.
@laradale2540
2 ай бұрын
@@debbymacdonald4842 aunt Bevvy Wevvy.
@StephanieFlower-d9j
2 ай бұрын
She was obvious that the judge was annoyed with Karen Read and her antics in Court. Karen's lawyers need to muzzle her. This was a trial not a Reality show for Karen Read. She talked way too much to the media and appeared to love all the media attention and perhaps Judge Cannone felt Karen was making a mockery of the trial?? That courtroom belonged to the Judge NOT Karen Read.
@SerenityRPh
2 ай бұрын
Albert & Higgins also need to be under investigation bc of destroyed phone data
@michaelb8957
2 ай бұрын
The judge ordered their cellphone's and the day before Albert stated in court, basical oh well I decided to get a new one for my birthday, and the judge did nothing. She is also corrupt obviously, everyone should be under investigation.
@unapologeticallyauthentic
2 ай бұрын
I just keep hearing Higgins say, "Yor Hot" to Karen when he was texting her. Gross. I couldn't date a man that talks like that. That damn accent!!
@StephenRollins-x5v
2 ай бұрын
Pressure Higgins. He will flip
@allkindsamusicchick
2 ай бұрын
@@unapologeticallyauthentic SHE...said it first....just one compliment....as she was reeling him in.
@allkindsamusicchick
2 ай бұрын
@@StephenRollins-x5v He knows....KR knows.... We want to know...how it all went down.
@lisaborries9205
2 ай бұрын
$184,000/year?!? I have a Master’s Degree and 34 years of teaching experience. Retired at $72,000/year. Our country is messed up! Altho I appreciate all law enforcement and believe their lives are often endangered. However, public schools are not the safest either.
@erica_em
2 ай бұрын
Yes, police officer pay is public and every officer I've personally looked up (barring 1st and 2nd year rookies) have made $115k/year or more... sometimes much more. As a teacher, you should correct people when they say "teachers and police officers" are underpaid. Teachers are woefully underpaid. Police officers are not, especially considering the minimal education and incredibly low bar to become one.
@kristina__marie
2 ай бұрын
PREACH 🙌🙌🙌 At least if I'm bad at my job, it doesn't ruin anyone's life or put anyone in danger. It's very concerning that the MSP hiring & firing standards are so low.
@drewcereal7371
2 ай бұрын
so glad you said this. my thoughts exactly. the fact this women-hating piece of garbage makes 180k+, makes me sick. I'm passionate about my career and I could never be the level of incompetent that Proctor is as a law enforcement officer, even if I tried. it's completely disgusting that someone like that can thrive in a career that is supposed to be held to a higher standard. it terrifies me that him and his buddies were given weapons and authority.
@drewcereal7371
2 ай бұрын
@@kristina__marie agreed. I think it is absolutely terrifying that people like this are in positions of authority.
@timmysargent6810
2 ай бұрын
Over 50 % of that salary is overtime so they are never home...
@CassieJaskula
2 ай бұрын
It feels as though, had she been convicted, it would have been "no harm, no foul" and that's just unacceptable.
@joditurrisi6004
2 ай бұрын
Ummmm
@kayakazi7765
2 ай бұрын
Exactly
@astrolunachick
2 ай бұрын
MSP needs to have its own rehab program. Stop tolerating functional alcoholics on the police force
@release_the_kraken.
2 ай бұрын
They’re on it, part of their wellness program (yeah right!)
@Great_Kate
2 ай бұрын
MSP knows this is bad following the trial and public opinion and that is the only reason Mr Cop stood there telling us how seriously they are taking this. But it wasn’t serious enough before, when Karen was being buried alive by MSP police corruption and nobody will be held accountable in a significant way.
@Kaysohh
2 ай бұрын
The MSP werent aware of the texts outside of Proctor and his superiors until it was released by the DOJ/FBI investigation. I'm not defending them by any means but the trial was what brought those to light. With that said, makes it even more infuriating as Tully and Bukheinik were not disciplined/investigated also
@Dontbelieve9
2 ай бұрын
If they were serious about it, they would’ve said and done it within the 16 months they had. Ridiculous and disgusting “effort” by the CW. We want action, not BS words
@m5sunflower665
2 ай бұрын
A paid vacation ? What the hell
@kellylove5517
2 ай бұрын
Relocated ? That means he gets to be someone else's headache....My opinion is He should lose his job. Pension..and qualified immunity....as should the rest of them, including his Supervisor...
@m5sunflower665
2 ай бұрын
Exactly no more lies
@monicacontract2471
2 ай бұрын
MSP is trying to gaslight everyone regarding Proctor and the systemic issues they clearly have, and have known they have, within their force. Waiting to do this until minutes after the mistrial is enraging and makes it feel like they only kept him to try to convict her. MSP needed to do the right thing as soon as they learned about this.
@susangilliam6400
2 ай бұрын
agree...
@debranagrocki4952
2 ай бұрын
Why the hell was Proctor making 184,000.00 dollars a year Ridiculous!!
@lacsuttle
2 ай бұрын
Here’s a tip, colonel. Don’t claim the department took “immediate action” in one breath, and then acknowledge working on the issues for 16 months in the next breath. THIS is exactly why the public thinks they’re a joke.
@rncgsu
2 ай бұрын
How about lead detective lying to the grand jury about not knowing the Alberts
@StephenRollins-x5v
2 ай бұрын
Should have went in the house. Period
@taynathibault9752
2 ай бұрын
he should have been Fired.. Period.
@joditurrisi6004
2 ай бұрын
He will be
@jeninga1976-v3s
2 ай бұрын
The MSP offered their condolences to the O'Keefes as they should. What about Proctor apologizing to Karen Read? Wow.
@mauraboland6842
2 ай бұрын
Who cares, shanties...my god that area is still Shanty land.
@AmyB369
2 ай бұрын
If they have a shit about the O’Keefe’s they would have done a proper investigation
@michellepaul6817
2 ай бұрын
I feel like this whole department has issues, if they didn’t fire him, they aren’t taking it seriously enough.
@ericalexander5890
2 ай бұрын
No matter what they do to Proctor, they're going to let him get that sweet, sweet, completely overpaid retirement.
@melissab7777
2 ай бұрын
My husband is a retired LVMPD police officer. One of the other officers let my husband drive into an ambush while he parked and hid while my husband drove in to deal with an active sh**ter. The cowardly officer was fired. Yet he was hired by a small Indian reservation police department, and promoted to sgt. He was then demoted for another cowardly act. But is still employed as a police officer.
@melodiecason2799
2 ай бұрын
I'm so sorry for your husband. But this is how it works with the police departments. One will fire him and another one will scoop them up.
@WinkyWonder
2 ай бұрын
I’m so proud of your husband and thankful he’s retired. It’s such a shame we all have to give a list of references when we apply for a job but past employees are only allowed to answer the question “Would you hire this person again?” I live in SC and this one question that can be answered with only a yes or no is not a true reference to someone’s character. Bad people always find a way to get a new job, even if it’s short lived because their true character comes out. It’s such an injustice to the employers and communities of wherever the coward is employed next. The only way this ends is exposure and consequences.
@tessa4902
2 ай бұрын
So sad
@KellyMorris-x6k
2 ай бұрын
Karma will get him
@jeni117
2 ай бұрын
That's crazy
@MLA56
2 ай бұрын
MSP Spokesman says they're working on "gaining the public's trust," and claiming they only learned of this during the trial, while simultaneously "sidestepping" the facts... That means LYING. Again. On top of lies. This clown's remarks "from the top" give a CLEAR indication that dishonesty, lack of professional ethics, and illegal conduct are ENDEMIC in the entire organization. I'd never live in Massachusetts under any circumstances, but this is disgraceful.
@Annie-yg6eg
2 ай бұрын
I caught him at the end referencing the 'trial process' which would include all the hearings and discovery to prepare for trial. Double-talking snake.
@ElizabethPuglisi-df2gt
2 ай бұрын
Trust is broken
@maryw1129
2 ай бұрын
Wow You want the fantasy to be so real Maybe he was unprofessional but he did not plant evidence
@s.z.6200
2 ай бұрын
The chain of custody was broken with all of the evidence', the crime scene wasn’t secured, and the cops never went into the house where the murder occurred.
@aliciaa5894
2 ай бұрын
Shouldn’t his supervisors be investigated as well since he was directly texting them with these disgusting messages?
@enigma_-_79
2 ай бұрын
They won’t be investigated and that’s why Proctor won’t be fired.
@Npvisqueen
2 ай бұрын
In theory that would be in the internal affairs investigation. But again that's in theory
@semiprokeloi
2 ай бұрын
The US is so wild. The only way you get a reasonable amount of paid leave, not as a general part of your role, not by having a child, not even a death in the family. No, just be in a position of power then be wholly unethical and woefully unprofessional and incompetent at your job.
@Doxiemom2009
2 ай бұрын
I am seriously angry and disgusted. The Commonwealth needs to give Karen Read her life back. This corruption should be cause for dismissal of all charges against her. Realistically I know that ain’t gonna happen.
@Myeyeofthebeholder
2 ай бұрын
With his lies and deceit he will never be able to write a report, or be a witness for trial, ever again. I wonder how many will file to have their cases relooked into that he investigated.
@gerry7590
2 ай бұрын
Exactly I would.
@joycenotine283
2 ай бұрын
Why the Colonel did not apologize to Karen Read as well is intolerable.
@michaelb8957
2 ай бұрын
He is no good clearly stating a bunch of BS. He should be replaced and I hope the people and the media hold him responsible for his terrible department.
@barbaradodge1442
2 ай бұрын
Why should he ? He didn't call her a whack job...
@TheAudbod123
2 ай бұрын
When you are the cause of a cop dying, you are not going to get too many apologies, from other cops.
@s.z.6200
2 ай бұрын
But she’s not the cause, John was not hit by a vehicle.
@bellaandersen9331
2 ай бұрын
Howie Carr said today that all MSP will be called Proctors instead of troopers.
@DrunkComments
2 ай бұрын
Proctor should be in jail
@THErealOGse
2 ай бұрын
If they retry Read after all this came out they are delusional.
@chantallennox1201
2 ай бұрын
True. And they were already delusional going to trial with such a leaky chain of evidence and so much highly disputable evidence and witness accounts. I feel like the whole thing was a train they couldn’t get off even if they wanted to. Someone made the decision to give the benefit of the doubt to a colleague or worse do a little favour for a mate that is now being held over them. And that must be a domino effect up the ranks and through the DA office. To make it to trial the first time with such an unsound case there must have been immense pressure from people with a lot to loose. They’re going to keep trying to blame and convict Karen until they are stopped by the weight of public opinion as more and more state staff are discredited and corruption comes to light.
@HomeGypsy
2 ай бұрын
Yep. ☑️ That DUI reckless driving manslaughter charge is completely gratuitous.
@carolynwilson7806
2 ай бұрын
I can’t help but think that there were jurors who either had some sort of relationship with LE involved or they were scared to death of LE involved.
@nunyamindyub3255
2 ай бұрын
Bingo!
@yuzuyoshiroe5673
2 ай бұрын
You should watch the Canton town meetings. Everyone who is not a well-connected townie is treated as lesser by the police. At least that's what they're saying. Some have been threatened after speaking out, and allegedly Mr. Albert, unlike normal people, has a phone number for the police that someone will pick up immediately-a privilege that others don't have. Seriously, the people were BEGGING for change but got ignored. Police audits that were painfully won were assigned to someone who was against them. The people wanted the police chief gone (her contract was over), but they renewed the contract for another year. And then they had the audacity to say, "We are currently not looking for input from the public." I mean, WTF?! In the beginning, I thought a whole conspiracy was a bit much, but after seeing the whole thing going on outside of the trial makes me a lot more open to it. I have never seen people so desperate in those meetings, but those selectmen were just ignoring the hell out of them.
@gummybears-n-crime1317
2 ай бұрын
“Will Not be tolerated” - but was Tolerated.
@pattikonieczny1691
2 ай бұрын
What about EVERYONE ELSE THAT WAS INVOLVED, HIS BOSSES ETC???
@susangilliam6400
2 ай бұрын
agree. they had to know what testimony..plus any scuttlebutt about texts .etc those receiving and commenting are just as guilty as they condoned their counterparts behevior..should have nixed but obviously no one did.
@shazzasees
2 ай бұрын
He is obviously taking a hit for the team perhaps?🤷♀️
@Clare_no_dramatic_nonsense_pls
2 ай бұрын
There's likely to be others IMO - this isn't the first time.
@antortiz07
2 ай бұрын
I am a Massachusetts Resident and have been since I was born. I do not trust the state police nor do I trust most Boston Police officers. Unfortunately that’s just how I’ve lived my life here. Stay out of their way follow the rules of the road and do nothing that can put you in their hands.
@RobynHurley-zp9sh
2 ай бұрын
Me too lifelong resident of mass except 2 years of college in Rhode island I never trusted!
@TararyzeMcg
2 ай бұрын
I WANT TO HEAR FROM JURORS!!!!
@cindy7938
2 ай бұрын
16 months to decide to take action on Proctor !! Wow !!
@elizabethlauricella7176
2 ай бұрын
Thank you Peter. This trial wasn’t their MSP FINEST HOUR. Prayers for Karen Read that there isn’t another trial and it’s finished w a lesser lesser filing.
@autosalesqueen
2 ай бұрын
Since when do cops NOT record interviews... ? Troopers or not!
@amyhunter7401
2 ай бұрын
Karen Read should not plead to anything.
@michaelb8957
2 ай бұрын
I wouldn't
@ninastanek3388
2 ай бұрын
Easy to say if you could get life in prison
@amyhunter7401
2 ай бұрын
I would not even plead to jaywalking.
@JPop1240
2 ай бұрын
she shouldn’t plead to flushing the toilet!!!
@joditurrisi6004
2 ай бұрын
I think if it was just reckless driving I would and put that part of my life behind me. I hope playboy offers KR millions of dollars to pose in a police uniform that has protor badge number on it.
@rhondathompson5082
2 ай бұрын
When I was working as a paralegal for a defense firm we had a jury hang twice. The judge dismissed the case and wouldn't allow a 3rd trial!
@izzy_89
2 ай бұрын
Didn’t they all testified to a ‘group effort’ investigation, why only making Proctor a scapegoat? They should keep the same energy across the board, and got rid of the whole bunch of them ! They are all liable !! Absolute shambles! Poor attempt at saving face !
@chantallennox1201
2 ай бұрын
Yep. So far they are definitely trying to focus on the text messages as being the one reason. I guess they have to have definitive proof of evidence tampering to be able to go after Proctor fully, or any of his cronies
@DanielWimsatt
2 ай бұрын
There was no massive amount of blood in the snow!! He bleed out on the basement floor of that house!!! And the Alfred’s know it!!! Dudes a retired cop and never even went outside in his own front yard!!! WTF
@StephenRollins-x5v
2 ай бұрын
Exactly
@StephenRollins-x5v
2 ай бұрын
Higgins will flip
@StephenRollins-x5v
2 ай бұрын
If the house was full of minorities. They would have called the swat unit
@00KingPin
2 ай бұрын
He was nevertheless in that house. Karen read is a lying manipulative woman. Just think if Sarah Boone wasn’t videoed and was more attractive what would y’all say.
@marygoff3332
2 ай бұрын
@@StephenRollins-x5vI think it's too late for anyone to "flip" but I hope you're right. It would be great!
@MemawH
2 ай бұрын
Watching after the live, but if I were a taxpayer in the Norfolk district, I would start a petition demanding that the CW NOT retry this case. There is very little that the CW can bring to a retrial other than what has been testified to already. They can’t go back and change the investigation or lack of investigation to work with. It would be an effort in futility.
@bettycattk5298
2 ай бұрын
The Read supporters hopefully will start a petition to stop the retrial. Great idea. That’s a lot more productive than standing on the street and yelling all day long!
@crystalwhitten9107
2 ай бұрын
As a Massachusetts tax payer, I am appalled and outraged that they spent ANY money, never mind 7 figures, to try Karen’s case!
@corky_cork
2 ай бұрын
You can start building trust by getting rid of everyone of those officers who lied on the stand, who covered up a murder committed by someone other than Karen Read ( and you know it) Everyone who returned to the Albert household that night charged with DUI. Pay Karen’s legal fees. The list could write a book.
@marygoff3332
2 ай бұрын
Yep. Agreed.
@MrBetc
2 ай бұрын
Justice for John O'Keefe 💔❤💔
@vickithomas179
2 ай бұрын
Not at the expense of non guilty Karen Read
@THErealOGse
2 ай бұрын
We all want that. Just not this way.
@mauraboland6842
2 ай бұрын
@@vickithomas179 bunch of shanties, they did it to themselves with the shanty behavoir. Even if they didn't do anything, they screwed themselves by their spiteful judgement of KR. So shocking and embarassing
@mauraboland6842
2 ай бұрын
@@vickithomas179 well at least she called him by his name instead of 'that guy' who was a respected officer. We call them Shanties. That is what that group was, nothing but shanties.
@randomocitystudios5046
2 ай бұрын
I wish they had investigated what happened at the Albert residence that night. We may never know now that the evidence has been scrubbed.
@kimdelorme6314
2 ай бұрын
Justice for the O’Keefe family!🕯️🕯️💙💙💙💔❤️
@Vivian-hz3hz
2 ай бұрын
Can the defense ask for an Aquital when they go back to court on the 21 st? Proctor should be fired with no pension and fire YURI and chief Rafferty fire them all
@deepstatethrombosis
2 ай бұрын
Dude, at this rate you'll be at a million subs by the end of the year!
@richardstuplich8278
2 ай бұрын
The state shouldn't just try and stick a charge to avoid a lawsuit! If they do wrong they get sued, desperate fake charges and plea deals shouldn't be used as a shield.
@BlessedInTX248
2 ай бұрын
It's obvious that JOK was not hit by a car. So obvious. I can't imagine that more than 2 people feel she's guilty, though I don't understand how or why. It's crazy. I'm working hard to not verbally use extremes. But it's hard to comprehend how anyone thinks her guilty of murder. I wish the judge had put jury's votes on the record. It seems unfair that we don't know the score of the jurors. Will that be documented and allowed to be FIOA'ed or on website?
@twoandtwo4
2 ай бұрын
Why do you refer to the person being tried as "he" and "him" ? That person is Karen Read, a woman.
@BlessedInTX248
2 ай бұрын
@@twoandtwo4 A mistake.
@BlessedInTX248
2 ай бұрын
@@twoandtwo4 I corrected the pronouns. Thanks.
@stephanieyates9551
2 ай бұрын
Thx for the coverage Peter! One comment to make re the Karen Read situation. I understand and completely empathize with the OKeefe family, their loss and grief. But Paul OKeefe ought to know better than to make threatening statements to Karen or anyone else. Work on it in counselling , but honestly, it helps nothing to say that to her. It’s angry, ugly, and threatening. There’s such grief all round. The case is still pending- he needs to keep his mouth shut
@evelynmahoney3569
2 ай бұрын
His boss, Mr. Bukaki needs to go too. Just as big of a liar / perjurer, and in on the taillight removal and subsequent planting of the pieces at the scene. Just a few of his missteps.
@DebC7777
2 ай бұрын
Damage control, damage control, damage control! CW can start earning trust by admitting the KR setup by Proctor and going forward with transparency!
@heatherstafford7287
2 ай бұрын
The spokesman for the police was full of hot air, and he is treating anyone listening like challenged toddlers.
@michaelb8957
2 ай бұрын
That spokesman is the man in charge of the state police Colonel John Mawn he was full of BS. He should be removed because of all this.
@Amanda-cn3pk
2 ай бұрын
FBI needs to end this immediately and start making arrests regarding those that actually killed John.
@marygoff3332
2 ай бұрын
Sadly, the physical evidence is gone now. They ripped up their flooring (to get rid of John's blood) and gave away their dog. Destroyed their cell phones, etc.
@dianasmith8248
2 ай бұрын
@@marygoff3332Yep. The only thing that would stop the Commonwealth from coming after her at this point. Is if the FBI came out and said, after investigating this case, we have determined that John O’Keefe was not killed by a motor vehicle and then they presented all of their evidence. But while I have read, the FBI are investigating this case. I don’t know what aspects of this case they are investigating.
@s.z.6200
2 ай бұрын
I heard the FBI searched the home After it was sold and removed door handles and the bulkhead door.
@HomeGypsy
2 ай бұрын
@@s.z.6200I’ve heard that, too. I think it was even from Bederow.
@debbieeggiman6761
2 ай бұрын
Do you suppose the Mcalberts are getting a bit nervous?!🤔
@sbmom7
2 ай бұрын
NO !!
@hopingforanswers7376
2 ай бұрын
Seems that they OWN the town of Canton 🤬
@cindy7938
2 ай бұрын
@@hopingforanswers7376… I think you are right…sad
@ElizabethPuglisi-df2gt
2 ай бұрын
Yes
@GreenEyedGumby
2 ай бұрын
110 in Sacramento today. I hate it. Thank you for continuing to cover this train wreck of a case!
@pandabeary813
2 ай бұрын
I live in Sacramento also.
@barbara816
2 ай бұрын
Northern California, has pge shut offs and it’s hot up here! 4 fires just ignited and Thursday it’s going to be 119! Stay safe and cool
@enigma_-_79
2 ай бұрын
I’m in England at the moment. Complaints here because last week it was 75-78’ and this week it’s back down to 60’. If it hit 100’ there would be rioting. 😂
@triciamuir
2 ай бұрын
I'm in San Francisco..... Used to live close to Sac, so glad it's not as warm here! Stay hydrated and out of the sun! ☺️
@deirdrehubbs3908
2 ай бұрын
@@enigma_-_79No A/C in these parts..we'd all expire😂
@michellefreeman1109
2 ай бұрын
Replay crew here. Yeah of course Proctor gets to keep his pay which makes me mad. Yeah immediately took action… please. They’ve known about this since the death of Officer O’Keefe. 😡
@doreennielsen4846
2 ай бұрын
They provided the evidence, they didn't need to watch the trial and took action 16 months prior because they knew it was bad and they were all arrogant and chose the wait and see attitude. The prosecution also knew the problems before they started and they all thought they could sweep it under the rug. It's stinky for a reason and they are more imterested in their saving their reputation than justice.
@Steve-YT383
2 ай бұрын
It's because his words became public on the stand
@lulubells930
2 ай бұрын
Karen looked “shaken” after Paul walked by her. You can physically see her expression!!! 😢
@jean7141
2 ай бұрын
If they felt proctor needed to be either removed and work elsewhere in the on the fourth or be fired. How can the district attorney be thinking of bringing another case against Karen Reid? Obviously they know Proctor is dirty and he’s not the only one.
@sparkyroots369
2 ай бұрын
HOW THE HELL did he ever get such a responsible important job when he mentally and emotionally cannot cope with having a suspect who has a colostomy bag?? What does he say about downs people? What about people he meets through work who are in wheelchairs? Disfigured people, burns, mental health issues?
@rolomiu
2 ай бұрын
So if there would of been a guilty verdict he wouldn’t of been relieved of his duties!!!
@RobynHurley-zp9sh
2 ай бұрын
Right???
@christineniering1233
2 ай бұрын
‘I have no clue’ yes Peter! And that’s the frustration as the evidence did not offer a guilty verdict beyond a reasonable doubt 😩 Really interesting to hear from this juror and thanking you for your analysis as always🙏😊
@robinl6659
2 ай бұрын
He has been transferred to Dept H South Boston ,not as an active Trooper.
@LoriMac17
2 ай бұрын
The fact that he's not outright fired deter's trust. This man is bla bla bla'ing his way through the press conference. Simply put, you can't do what he did, and keep your job. What a waste of time.
@margaretleavitt6992
2 ай бұрын
The Brian Walsh case will be gruesome! Proctor and possibly Lally are involved with that.
@CrazyPotterCrew
2 ай бұрын
Thanks for your coverage Peter! You are quickly becoming a favorite of mine!
@ggusta1
2 ай бұрын
Class action Civil suit against the MSP and proctor is going to be enormous. Don't spend all that salary on the same mistress, trooper 😊
@eh1126
2 ай бұрын
I think what hurt Karen the most was that she was not a likeable defendant and has RBF. All pictures I’ve seen of her, she also seems to have a permanent smirk (I don’t think she’s smirking, that’s just her face). I think most people are not able to separate likeability from reasonable doubt. I also noticed that whenever a picture of John’s body was presented she looked stoic, which is understandable, she saw his body in person and has likely seen these pictures a thousand times over. But I think the jury probably expected to see more pain out of her from seeing pictures of her dead boyfriend. I hope for the next trial she is coached on this to avoid any bias from the jury.
@Catmandoo-1234
2 ай бұрын
Another murder case in canton, Sandra Birchmore. Investigation by canton police & state police. Some of the same players are involved.
@Jil_Brian
2 ай бұрын
Utah had a major problem with a DUI officer for our highway patrol years back… after we brought her down, the DA had to go back and UNDO all the prior cases she was the investigator in…. A housecleaning in MA needs to happen…
@kitcatkit6240
2 ай бұрын
Yes! And her murder was apparently just changed from a suicide to a homicide . There was a broken bone in her neck area that doesn’t happen from hanging yourself, it happens when you’re strangled. ( I’m not sure how true this all is) but guess who were all key players in this investigation
@miss.kimpossible
2 ай бұрын
It’s unfortunate that a person’s life is in the hands of a few jurors who obviously have ulterior motives. The CW OBVIOUSLY didn’t prove their case….obviously. If the DA had integrity, he’d go to JO’s family and be honest about not having proof. Now it costs everyone more money and time and heartache. Sad.
@Trevlee74
2 ай бұрын
It’s easier to fool people than it is to convince them they have been fooled.
@KathleenCameron-lp6gq
2 ай бұрын
Yes, please do break it down
@Sam-hw1se
2 ай бұрын
I wouldn’t trust him to write speeding tickets with the hwy patrol. You need integrity to police!
@LauraBorer-y3q
2 ай бұрын
So many of these troopers are on the brady list... its crazy.
@chadkosakowski3327
2 ай бұрын
Misconduct isn’t singular it plural so let’s report it straight!
@robtooley4002
2 ай бұрын
You just used a singular verb. If plural, shouldn't you have said "misconduct aren't"?
@chadkosakowski3327
2 ай бұрын
@@robtooley4002 Thank you, Mrs. Beasley!
@heatherm9163
2 ай бұрын
O M G If he pretends one more time like they were waiting and watching the trial to lean more, I'm seriously going to lose it! I truly hope the next media event is from the FBI calling out this trap. You cannot claim you are trying to right your wrongs while continuing to deceive....do wrong!
@marycarlin1911
2 ай бұрын
He needs to be in prison along with his chain of command
@Slothlife67
2 ай бұрын
The superior ranking officers involved in the chat group should also face investigation and appropriate action taken.
@CrochetCrime30
2 ай бұрын
MSP…too little, too late! If we had not all watched this trial which shined a light on law enforcement corruption, nothing would have changed. We need to keep pressure on the MSP and all law enforcement.
@shakeandbreak2938
2 ай бұрын
Part of it has to the admission of drinking and drinking in state property, and his buddy losing his gun and badge in said state property.
@debbieeggiman6761
2 ай бұрын
Hi from Montana!!! Originally from outside of Canton! So excited to see that he’s getting in trouble!!!👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼
@brandi3466
2 ай бұрын
I think they weren't supposed to call Proctor to the stand but bc of all the pressure they had to then they were "embarrassed" publicly, receiving backlash from public, and then only then thought they should do something, but will NEVER take or require accountability. Smh
@hxj880
2 ай бұрын
Cops need to be licensed and held accountable when they break the law.
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