After over thirty years of watching televised/online trials, my opinion of defense attorneys has gone from disdain, to realizing that they are just doing a very necessary job, whether I agree with them or not. Mr. Jackson is the first defense attorney that I am literally rooting for.
@mortalclown3812
3 ай бұрын
Agree re: Jackson and Yannetti. 💯 They're on top of everything in a very complicated case. Hope I never need a criminal atty anywhere, but these guys'd be my first call. Also, I respect the career of defense attorneys - especially considering the uninformed opprobrium they get in nearly all criminal trials - at least on YT. Tbh, I had no idea this many people are literally unaware of the Bill of Rights. Mercy.
@teedeed5390
3 ай бұрын
The more innocent you are the more you need a defence legalise isn’t easy for most of us we do forget the burden is on the state to prove guilt through facts and evidence justice is supposed to be blind. Have no problem with ppl getting a defence you want the bad guys done correctly not just it’s them job done this case investigation lost all credibility for me just as a person interested in true crime. Look at the poor boy they ended up sending to a mental facility for 4 days after getting him to confess to a murder that wasn’t even committed his father just went to his gf home after a fight 😮suppose who watches the watchmen ?
@9inchessoft
3 ай бұрын
@@mortalclown3812 it seems like Yanetti is basically just a backup QB lately. I’m guessing that’s from Karen.
@sallycinnamon5370
3 ай бұрын
I rooted for Scott Peterson (in Florida) attorney. But yeah...that might have been the only other one. And it felt different than this case. I think that case was meritless...but the investigation wasn't really an issue...more the political undertone of that prosecution decision than the investigation into it
@leannabedore
3 ай бұрын
I agree, same with Yanetti! They both seem so passionate of their clients innocence. When the judge scolded for Yanetti for "putting on a show" or being "hyperbolic" or "he is trying to convince her nobody else" was so offensive. He just seemed passionate.
@MsTara1509
3 ай бұрын
Peter, you don't need to justify yourself to those who smear, instigate, and lack respect for differing opinions. You are respected for honest and unbiased discussions. You are appreciated!
@melistasy
3 ай бұрын
I second this! 💯
@maroon24722
3 ай бұрын
Yesss what I wanted to say as I’m listening to this after the fact.
@brandifrank2812
3 ай бұрын
Yea, I’m a law student. I’m unbiased, but have opinions of occurrences on both sides. I appreciate LYK for BN frank. (Get it?😉) He should oblige the majority and ignore the few. Most fiend for a response to negativity. I watch others and they don’t address dramatics. Peter owes no explanation to the naysayers. It’s too easy for them to stop watching.
@gunnybunny4081
3 ай бұрын
🎯 Peter there’s also no subscription to Law Tube. It’s just what people call the legal professionals that have channels on YT. I concur thankfully you aren’t anything like any of the people who consider themselves “Law Tube.”
@H3li0s_kun
3 ай бұрын
@@brandifrank2812Everyone has a bias (some more than others). Believing you're unbiased is because you're biased towards a positive view of yourself :p I get what you're saying though, if you're referring to this case, or speaking in relative terms.
@shelbyvpool
3 ай бұрын
My coworker had cops, in a super small town that doesn’t even have a Walmart, come to question her because a guy in her neighborhood stabbed his mom and then called the police confessing. He was already arrested 6 hours prior and that was a clear cut closed case yet they still went to every house in the neighborhood to question what they know of them and if they saw anything. And that was even day of….
@basicallyno1722
3 ай бұрын
“That doesn’t even have a Walmart.” Haha yeah that must be pretty small 😂
@catherinelynnfraser2001
3 ай бұрын
The things that were not investigated and the people who were not questioned are insurmountable problems IMO.
@Vtsnows
3 ай бұрын
My town is so small it would fit in a Walmart
@truethat774
3 ай бұрын
@@Vtsnows😂😂😂
@LauraJReicher
3 ай бұрын
As a juror (I’ve been one). Too much reasonable doubt! I served on an attempted murder case. My question would be, why didn’t you knock on the door of the Albert’s ❓
@db9289
3 ай бұрын
Thanks for your take! I’ve been wondering what prior jurors think of this trial!
@LauraJReicher
3 ай бұрын
@@db9289 jury instructions actually tell you that you cannot convict with reasonable doubt.
@LauraJReicher
3 ай бұрын
@@db9289 also you’re so compelling to me. My family is from Germany but I am born in NY raised in Puerto Rico and live in AZ. But Reicher is my name and my dad was from Halle Germany. You?
@JodiLee-ei7rf
3 ай бұрын
I have noticed every case I have watched with LYK. The majority of how people feel about a case, is usually the verdict! The jury sees more than we do! 💯
@MKConnecticut
3 ай бұрын
Unbelievable that they didn’t question the homeowners
@Igotnothin_
3 ай бұрын
We all know, as does the Jury that if it were any one of our homes that had a dead body out front, the inside our house would have been turned upside down
@hannieloooo
3 ай бұрын
I was questioned by the State Bureau of Investigation about a SA incident my friend merely *told me about* on Facebook messenger. I still cannot believe the police didn’t go into the Albert’s house. It’s truly hard to fathom.
@elizabeth72607
3 ай бұрын
I don’t understand a few comments against Jackson? The guy is a brilliant atty, amazing at cross, whether you like him or not.
@bethmccrae2714
3 ай бұрын
Alan Jackson is a pig who viciously attacked Harvey Weinstein rape victims then has the gall to try to shame others for personal opinions of vile cop killers
@richardw3052
3 ай бұрын
"shame on you" - at that moment you knew theatrics had taken over and nothing of substance was present.
@soude85
3 ай бұрын
@@richardw3052 Do you feel threatened by intelligent and confident men, Richard? Work on yourself and do better, Richard. Maybe then you will have the strength, to appreciate good work when you see it.
@slanigrad
3 ай бұрын
@@richardw3052he said what we all think about that mans actions! i suppose you do same things to women around you,so morals for you is mere theatre..
@JamesCM86
3 ай бұрын
@@richardw3052NONSENSE!!! Needed to be said
@jadew93
3 ай бұрын
Tully quote, “we would “normally” follow the evidence”. Uh…shouldn’t you ALWAYS follow the evidence Tully
@wjk243
3 ай бұрын
Yea I caught that too.
@jericho1-4
3 ай бұрын
As a non active service 0321 FORECON and later an 0372 CSO with the USMC and current critical incident investigator with the fire service in my home state you always follow the evidence, it's how you build a potential suspect pool, weather it be tracking terrorists to narco traffickers or arsonists and bombers or shoddy building engineers or contractors. then you widdle that pool down with various pieces of physical evidence and witness statements to sharpen the scope of the investigation to the guilty party. This obviously wasn't done here and unsurprisingly enough it's sort of par for the course with civilian Law Enforcement here in the US. This screams of a cover up and definitely a purposefully botched investigation to make the current defendant the guilty party, I for one would like to see any photos leading from the house to the body once CSI's were on scene contrary to popular belief footprints/drag marks in snow do not just disappear even if it continues to snow they leave residual traces showing a pattern where someone walked or was dragged. And would show if he the victim was struck by a vehicle via the debris field around the body NOT 30-50 feet away that would require an oddly high rate of speed for a driveway to throw debris that far. They claim she backed up into him and hit him that conclusion would not stand up during an accident reconstruction analysis funny how one was never done as far as I know to prove that's what happened. Maybe cause they already knew that's not what happened and are trying to hang this on someone else that is what all the evidence and testimony points to in my opinion.
@kristenpino4635
3 ай бұрын
Yes!
@robertswartz2836
3 ай бұрын
I thought Proctor testified that he wasn’t reprimanded by anyone for his texts about Karen, but then his supervisor testified that he spoke with Proctor regarding the texts and escalated it to his superiors? 🤔
@timblanch7577
3 ай бұрын
I don’t believe any of them 🤦♀️
@cplusmcretired
3 ай бұрын
The original question was if he was reprimanded, but an objection was sustained and it had to be rephrased to reprimanded by anyone on the text thread. That said, I thought this guy was on the text thread, and if he was he likely got into trouble too, not the source of the trouble.
@sallycinnamon5370
3 ай бұрын
@@cplusmcretiredhe was in the text thread. Don’t think for a second that he reprimanded him. He was making comments like this repeatedly to a variety of people for months…
@soude85
3 ай бұрын
@@cplusmcretired Proctor was very proud of the fact that he was never reprimanded for anything…
@JamesCM86
3 ай бұрын
We know they all lie, why are you shocked 😂😂😂
@cjinpa5713
3 ай бұрын
I was just a juror on a double homicide in April (I was a new juror) and jurors don’t miss much. Before deliberations get crazy we all mentioned our eye roll moments and how incredibly incompetent some cops are and the ones we found credible and so on.
@Rae777
3 ай бұрын
This is such interesting insight. I could tell from juror interviews in other cases that not much gets past jurors. It must be so different being in the jury box with that task compared to a virtual viewer of the trial. Such an important duty!
@kathywright7395
3 ай бұрын
People who have NOTHING to hide - hide NOTHING
@pattipattow1881
3 ай бұрын
Conflict after conflict…We will never know the truth. Rest easy Officer O’Keefe.
@melistasy
3 ай бұрын
I know. That's the saddest part 😔. My heart breaks every time I see his mom in the courtroom because she looks so hurt 😢🤦🏾♀️
@CrimeCultureWithCyn
3 ай бұрын
Nah. We know she did it
@MimiDidi121
3 ай бұрын
That’s what’s sad! An honorable man was murdered and no one gave a damn enough to do an honorable investigation! John loved Karen. If nothing else that was enough reason to treat Karen with respect until or unless that had no doubt she murdered him. They don’t even have a confirmed homocide let alone Karen intended to do this, if she did and I’m more sure than not she didn’t.
@MimiDidi121
3 ай бұрын
@@melistasy I lost some of my sadness for his mom because when they were reading those horrible text messages about Karen. She was laughing at him, calling her those names and talking about her leaky butt. I don’t see the sense in that, they’ve sat through this whole trial, don’t they see the holes in this case?!?! Does she hate her so much that she can’t be objective? These people told her that she purposely murdered her son. Shame on them! The dad was said have Karen one day and he hasn’t been back in court. I fear they’re not only butchered an investigation into this man’s death, but maybe, causing a 50 year relationship split up!
@valeriemichelle_proudroughneck
3 ай бұрын
@@melistasywhile his mom is laughing while they were reading the text messages about Karen read or the fact that she took John to court to fight for custody of the kids.. no I don’t feel sorry for her she is not a nice person… now Mr okeefe that’s who I feel sorry for this trial has broken him and he will be a witness for the defense because he doesn’t believe Karen did it!! My heart hurts for him
@rondafun1
3 ай бұрын
I can’t get behind the butt dials, missing videos, lack of blood at the scene and random large pieces showing up 10 days later. I can never get beyond a reasonable doubt. Edit: I forgot the solo cups sitting next to the tailgate. 🙄🙄🙄
@savannahgary6351
3 ай бұрын
3 weeks later...from 1/29 all the way to 2/18!
@djcraig111
3 ай бұрын
Concur
@ilovegodzilla
3 ай бұрын
Let alone rehoming a dog, “rehoming” multiple phones, ripping out basement floors, mirrored videos, lack of interviews…and on, and on, and on. 😂
@AmandaCarlMusic
3 ай бұрын
Yes yes yes
@rondafun1
3 ай бұрын
@@ilovegodzilla Exactly.
@alyrica0505
3 ай бұрын
I am waiting for a medical professional because other than his right arm no one has testified to noticing any injury from the neck down. How does one get hit with enough force to knock them back but not leave any marks other than scratches on his arm. Can a 6000 pound object hit the arm and knock you back without breaking it? How does hitting the grass with a light snow covering cause a two inch horizontal gash? I need a medical examiner and accident reconstructionist to show me how this was a car accident because right now it doesn't sound logical.
@My-22-Cents
3 ай бұрын
Right. No body bruises, broken ribs etc. it hit him hard enough to throw him to the ground and split his head and the only other injury is some gashes on his unbroken arm? I don’t understand that at all. I wonder if the defence will bring in a witness to argue that point.
@TheGdav0202
3 ай бұрын
@@My-22-Cents The prosecution had experts examine all that and they all stated that they did not believe it was a car. The defense is currently trying to bring them in as their own witnesses. The state want them excluded (surprise surprise)
@jills9373
3 ай бұрын
@@TheGdav0202 no, it's the defense who has the experts. Experts that the FBI who is investigating the bogus investigation hired to do. Lally is trying to keep them from testifying. Their conclusion was that a car did not hit John which was already obvious by the injuries the poor man sustained.
@rhondapotter128
3 ай бұрын
I have said this a million times...if they find a dead body 20 feet outside my house....they are coming in my house!! But that was a police officer home and that is the one and only reason why they never checked the house!!!!
@nadinekeating3255
3 ай бұрын
This trial did *NOT* require the length of time they were given. I honestly don't think I've ever watched a trial, where *SO* much was said... yet, nothing was said. 😂 This is just dragging on and on without anything of much evidentiary value. 🤨
@BrendaT24
3 ай бұрын
Yep, another of talking but saying nothing
@Nicki_MM
3 ай бұрын
😂😂😂 it's like one of those Tyler Perry shows 😅😅
@soude85
3 ай бұрын
Because Lally has nothing to say. Adding more words to sentences doesn’t add meaning…🙄
@funnytime1111
3 ай бұрын
So much of the earlier testimony felt like a nothing burger. So tedious and drawn out for no apparent reason. Could have done just fine with half the witnesses and Lally not establishing it was snowing with every single witness.
@alisongladden1331
3 ай бұрын
And I feel like they worked backwards .. they should’ve came out with medical testimony from ME and the “expert reconstructionist” 😂 then interviewed the people from the bar and so on. They’ve made it all confusing and boring AF! Your supposed to grab the jurors with easily identifiable facts and info.
@alyrica0505
3 ай бұрын
In regards to all of the missing or erroneous documentation.... how is it that the call centers I worked in 20 plus years ago held us more accountable to accurate thorough documentation than a homicide department? Their mantra (the call center) was if it wasn't documented it didn't happen.
@justforcomments9524
3 ай бұрын
THIS!!!
@Noneyabidness007
3 ай бұрын
For a fellow police officer as well!
@kristinperry9945
3 ай бұрын
And in 2024, they are NOT video and audio recording everything.
@alyrica0505
3 ай бұрын
@@kristinperry9945 Right? That is crazy, in my opinion. I can't think of any reason that a competent, non-corrupt cop wouldn't record everything.
@jannater28
3 ай бұрын
Peter is straight chillin with us in his Tie dye tee 😎
@Whattupp-b7b
3 ай бұрын
What he did was not do a proper investigation. He did not go into the Albert’s house because he was a cop. Trust me if they didn’t know who lived there and he was not a cop they would’ve went into the house.
@Whattupp-b7b
3 ай бұрын
He’s a liar. He put it in Canton because it was the closest and they could have the hands on it much more easily than driving all the way to Foxboro. He’s a bold face liar.
@Whattupp-b7b
3 ай бұрын
How convenient Albert works there to the two brothers how convenient both cops know everybody in Canton
@charleslaurice
3 ай бұрын
It’s called a cover-up turning your head the other way just for the blues
@WW-hn5yb
3 ай бұрын
I DONTE trust you
@darcymoon2109
3 ай бұрын
I’ve had cops want to come into my house because they heard there was underage drinking happening. Threatened to break down my door. There was no party.
@SkiersDaughter
3 ай бұрын
Peter, if you don’t think other lawyers are watching your commentary, you’re not giving yourself enough credit. They are watching.
@MegsLostPassword
3 ай бұрын
Peter, the bigger your channel gets the more haters and trolls you will have. Don't worry too much. It just means you are reaching more people. ❤
@nadinekeating3255
3 ай бұрын
He *DEFINITELY* should not be making statements to the jury regarding abrasion patterns and what causes them. He's a cop... not a doctor!
@suzannemammone3635
3 ай бұрын
I feel like all these cops appear to think they are experts in medical assessment / bodily injuries. Yet , they seem to know nothing about investigation skills, chain of custody, securing a murder scene , documenting pertinent details , or taking pictures of the most important pieces of evidence - like the taillight !
@vitalucas9452
3 ай бұрын
@suzannemammon e3635 That's a terrific assessment.
@t.t6191
3 ай бұрын
Cases like this highlights just how important to the Justice system and average people, defence lawyers are. One would go so far as to say they they defend human rights for a living and i appreciate that. We're all human and we have to constantly keep working to keep things honest and lawful.
@weicco
3 ай бұрын
If a dead man with evidence of violence towards him is found on my property, hands up who thinks the cops are going to come to my home and ask some tough questions. Another hand up who thinks they are going search my house. Third hand up who thinks they would treat me as a suspect.
@johananas8407
3 ай бұрын
I kinda don’t have three hands. Does a foot count?
@weicco
3 ай бұрын
I believe Proctor has three hands. He is so good finding evidence.
@sngray11
3 ай бұрын
Thank you Peter for continuing to discuss this trial with all of us. 💗 I love your unbiased feedback on this case and always appreciate your insights and expertise. Stay safe and I look forward to tomorrow’s livestream. 💞
@PeppermintPJ90025
3 ай бұрын
There is no concrete proof that Karen said "I did it." It was all hearsay.
@maryw1129
3 ай бұрын
Multiple people heard her say that They are not all in on it imo
@Tammy_26Irwin
3 ай бұрын
@@maryw1129 But yeah, not one of them people put it into any of their reports as a matter fact Jenn McCabe didn’t even mention that when she testified at the grand jury
@USAsave
3 ай бұрын
She did admit on an on camera interview that she said “could I have hit him?” . So they all ran with that.
@lindseystein9676
3 ай бұрын
Apparently Jen McCabe only mentioned the supposed admission of “I hit him” after her 11th or 12th interview
@lesliefortie8347
3 ай бұрын
@@mrs.m1752 Right and she still "forgot" about that and later called the cop to let him know.
@heatherbstrasser
3 ай бұрын
These cops all stink to high heaven.
@user-bx8ol3yv3d
3 ай бұрын
The corruption is overwhelming.
@gregwillis4001
3 ай бұрын
I went to Google Earth, measured the distance from the house to the body, grabbed my tape measure, and headed out my front door, marked the spot and looked out my window. Visually, it's not that far. Good Grief! No one noticed a body, even when they were leaving?
@bethmccrae2714
3 ай бұрын
Karen Read left John O'Keefe's body at the far end of the lawn. No one leaving the party had any reason to inspect the far end of the lawn or expect there to be a body there. And it was snowing so they were watching the ground as they walked
@janiejane777
3 ай бұрын
@bethmccrae2714 they were, however, looking out from the windows and door over the front lawn and into the street. You should see the body from that vantage point.
@zander2830
3 ай бұрын
@bethmccrae2714 If they couldnt see a dark body on a dusting of snow from closest, 10 feet to a 65 foot MAX, with headlights shining on where his body supposedly was, and snow reflecting light then all 10+ of them need their vision checked and licenses revoked.
@hollyyoung2850
3 ай бұрын
I’d understand one/two people not noticing but there were about 6 people that had to leave the house and cars sitting on the road to collect them too😮 really?
@RichardZabielski-ql9ss
3 ай бұрын
I think they rushed party goers out than dumped the body after most were gone.
@caitlinjohnson4300
3 ай бұрын
My dad(a retired cop) subscribed after I sent him a clip. Thanks for what you do
@rebelius08
3 ай бұрын
At the beginning of the trial they showed the Solo cups in the sally port by the tail light
@catherinelynnfraser2001
3 ай бұрын
It was a dark and snowy night…and the fiction began.
@gregwillis4001
3 ай бұрын
The more the prosecution has their witnesses on the stand wearing exam gloves and solemnly cutting the seal on evidence pouches, the more I think about open solo cups in a grocery bag
@Whattupp-b7b
3 ай бұрын
This case should’ve been dismissed along time ago on the basis that the investigation was botched. It wasn’t done correctly, which violates her right that’s it.
@007nadineL
3 ай бұрын
Lolzzzz Drunk enraged jealous Karen Read hit him with her SUV and left her bf John O'Keefe to bleed out in a freezing blizzard when he had no winter coat on: youtube DOT .com/shorts/CsCCAemQ3wg #Canton #Trial #mass
@dennisdonoghue9202
3 ай бұрын
Yeah, but the DA needs a suspect. Hence, the debacle police investigation. Blame the state of Mass. They approved the charges against KR. They threw it at a wall and hoped it would stick. Lally is so disinterested in this case. The state only cares about blaming someone and maybe Lally is not even really convinced but he has to do his job. States don't care about violating peoples rights. Go fight city hall. A losing battle. if you think for a second that govt is your champion then your nuts
@daynagillham7695
3 ай бұрын
They did not Want to investigate the house ..They would have found something
@jano8
3 ай бұрын
I was hit by a 55 Chevy going 25 miles an hour and did not fly 12 feet onto a yard. And I did not have a skull fracture, concussion yes. I flew up in the air and landed just a few feet away from the car. But then again I wasn’t a 200 lb man that was around 6’2”. I was a 6 yr old kid that weighed about 65 lbs. no way he would have flown that far. And the only reason I got the concussion was I wasn’t taller than the vehicle.
@kristinperry9945
3 ай бұрын
I have also been struck by a car and did not lose my shoe(s). I was bruised all down my body where car hit me and where my body hit the ground. No bruising below neck is evidence of not being hit by a car (IMO). Really hope defense can bring in people to give evidence of common injuries from car impacts and fist fights.
@RichardZabielski-ql9ss
3 ай бұрын
@@kristinperry9945 I've been hit by a car going 20 mph and lost my shoes but honestly you can walk into me and I'll lose them. I tripped and lost one the other day. I wear them very loose, don't tie them and wear them like slips ons. So yes I slip in and out of them quite easy and wouldn't ever think a normal persons shoes would come off like John's. Nor do I believe it happened like they say
@johananas8407
3 ай бұрын
@@RichardZabielski-ql9ss I do believe it’s common to lose shoes while being hit by a car. The thing is, as you said, there’s so many other ways to lose shoes as well. A lost shoe alone doesn’t prove a car accident. I really would like to know if there’s anyone else’s dna around the armpit area of his sweatshirt/hoodie. That also doesn’t prove anything in itself, but there NOT being dna there could prove something. Unfortunately they didn’t swab individual places of the clothes.
@RichardZabielski-ql9ss
3 ай бұрын
@@johananas8407 there's many basic answers we will never get due to shotty police work and/or a cover up. I fully believe he was dragged out of that house and they just missed the white shoe due to the snow cover. A missing shoe doesn't indicate a crime but with everything I've watched , I can see them dragging him out.. BUT OF COURSE NOTHING WAS TESTED FOR ANY DNA OTHER THAN JOHN'S. How convenient...How Ludacris.
@physics4290
3 ай бұрын
Where is the chain of custody for John's phone, especially with missing ring camera footage?
@Judykroes
3 ай бұрын
You are the Lawyer I know and respect Peter
@TracyLSingh-RN-JD
3 ай бұрын
Hi Peter, replay crew, wish I had caught this one live! I am an attorney and I am always amazed at how much I agree with nearly every single thing you say!!! I LOVE to argue and hear different points of view but I find that we are of the same philosophy even though our practice areas are so very different. I appreciate everything you said here, what is legally appropriate in each interaction, direct or cross often has no bearing on who we think should ultimately win. And, unless you can see all sides along the way, you may be disappointed. Seeing it all is why you are able to call it most of the time, but juries never cease to surprise! Love your channel, thank you for all that you cover:)
@JohnnySaskatoon
3 ай бұрын
It blew my mind when they got into physics. I’m confident he’s not qualified on that subject.
@stephanieyuhas64
3 ай бұрын
Peter.. what I love about your channel is that you stay honest how you feel at the moment..so don't let Twitter or no other platform make you give two craps what another platform says!!
@ethansmith5106
3 ай бұрын
Hands down the best most option opinions and comments about this case. I watch multiple and LYK is by far the most neutral and just trying to play the part as a jury.
@vivienneobrien1557
3 ай бұрын
Peter, you will never please all of the people - just continue being yourself.
@maroon24722
3 ай бұрын
I’m so happy I found this channel. You are so intelligent and honest and such a great educator. I love listening to the trial “quickly” with your input. 🎉🎉❤
@phoenixshade3
3 ай бұрын
So, in Tully land, the difference between 30 feet and 50 feet is enormous, but 1 mile is not significantly less than 2.4 miles.
@ArtandGrace
3 ай бұрын
Agree. You are always teaching. Unbiased. That’s why I’m here over all the others.
@cheridampier2524
3 ай бұрын
I've heard you say that ppl were onto you about your position on this case, I thought you were just kidding. Oh my goodness, I went into this trial like a juror and no prior or extraneous information...for now I am on the not guilty side but could change if they prove it to me . But I made a comment about Jen McCabe not being believable and was attacked because " Karen is not as she's portrayed and a nasty outsider" my response, She probably isn't exactly as portrayed by either side but that doesn't prove she's a murderer or not
@juliak5011
3 ай бұрын
What I don’t like about Karen Read is she has made this case all about her . She has not shown any empathy when there has been anything said about officer O’Keefe. She giggles and smirks and plays for the camera. It doesn’t make her a murderer though. If I was the prosecution I would talk about this in closing and put the focus back on the deceased. The smoke and mirrors produced by her and her defense is working . I’m conflicted too as one day I’m not guilty, the next I think it was an accident. The prosecution has to show sokid evidence or she walks
@limiwa
3 ай бұрын
This is basically how I came into this case too. All I knew was that KR claimed she was framed. My first thought was that it was an accident. So far, there are just too many issues to overlook: shoddy investigation, unprofessional behavior, JO's injuries being inconsistent with being hit by a car, strange evidence (number of tail light pieces and timing of finding them), backwards surveillance videos, changing/inconsistent witness testimonies, not entering the Albert home, far too many "butt dials," and more. I get the feeling they assumed KR would take a plea and this would be over.
@fionaryder632
3 ай бұрын
@@juliak5011i don't think that she has Made the Case about her!! She really IS a Victim, too
@marie-evegoulet3229
3 ай бұрын
@@juliak5011I kinda felt like that initially… but with this “proof”, the investigators actually made the whole case about her. They never even looked anywhere else, not even to solidify their case. Also, people saying “she’s a nasty outsider” is so very strange to me… what a strange thing to say.
@kristenpino4635
3 ай бұрын
@@juliak5011 Karen's entire life is on the line so her chosing to fight for her freedom is obviously needed. As far as empathy, that is pushed aside while you protect yourself from these corrupt people and the state of Massachusetts. Have you ever seen Karen out of court or listened to her students, coworkers or friends talk about what a kind person she is. You are making these assumptions from quickly looking at Karen in a courtroom when the camera focused on her briefly.
@brandichurchwell
3 ай бұрын
I appreciate you addressing the "doing it for clicks" mob mentality- reasonable people can disagree, and they "can and will" on a jury. Loved it. Thank you, Peter!
@MakeupMobster
3 ай бұрын
As I was watching this testimony today I literally yelled out loud, “OBJECTION, LEADING!”. I’m not anywhere close to an attorney but listening to enough of these, you know when someone is asking a leading question to get the answer they want. I’m glad you talked about it because I didn’t know if I was right or not since many times there was no objections. The prosecutor did it so much today. I wondersd if It may be a strategic thing like they are giving him more rope to hang himself from. The more they talk, the more their stories don’t make sense. I think anyone watching this trial could tell when the prosecutor is trying to lead a question before a specific answer. If I hear “what if anything one more time I’m going to lose my mind.
@leslievasquez2645
3 ай бұрын
I’m actually so used to hearing objection, followed by sustained, that i have PTSD and I’m constantly expecting it 😅
@Lizzybee123
3 ай бұрын
The Kevin Albert connection! I almost missed that.
@mekhlachakrabarti1695
3 ай бұрын
Watching from Mumbai India …you’re one of the very few unbiased commentators…amongst all the You tubers who are assessing this case ..really appreciate that and value your opinions
@caroline-brisbane8577
3 ай бұрын
Yep. The Daybell trial was a masterclass. The prosecution direct and cross examinations were clear and concise. Their ability to use the evidence to shut down defence Prior. On cross. This case had 3 deaths, very complex. Yet this case is dragging on by prosecution inadequate questioning and all the problems, as of today prosecution has not proved anything.
@tomatoberry
3 ай бұрын
And the judge in that case was excellent too. The epitome of 'judicial temperament'.
@caroline-brisbane8577
3 ай бұрын
@@tomatoberry yes he was excellent, fair and impartial.
@brandiassaker4825
3 ай бұрын
It's hard to believe the cameras are motion activated when they glitched while people were moving on them. I would understand if there was nobody on camera but the times I seen it glitch there were people on the screen
@kristenpino4635
3 ай бұрын
What gets me is the reason they pull into the Sally Port is to bring inmates in and out securely and on video, if they "lost" 42 min of video because of the activation cameras, some thing could go down and the cameras could miss everything.
@Latifah.-
3 ай бұрын
How can Tully say she took longer than normal to arrive at a location when there was inclement weather?
@skygods89ify
3 ай бұрын
Proctor is under internal investigation
@JeanMarieRN
3 ай бұрын
Also federal.
@wjk243
3 ай бұрын
I sure hope so
@sandrabecht613
3 ай бұрын
he will walk. He knows too much about other offices
@marinadelreyna
3 ай бұрын
Good he needs to be! And fired!
@crankyold-man119
3 ай бұрын
The Feds are investigating the way the investigation was conducted.
@KristinC
3 ай бұрын
Re-watch crew! FYI plow truck driver never changed his testimony. There’s docs on X proving that
@paigemprice
3 ай бұрын
You also have to assume, in the videos, Karens SUV is the only dark SUV in Canton
@danielle24leblanc
3 ай бұрын
Abrasions are like skinned knees. Those are punctures and lacerations.. they appear deeper than an abrasions
@keli449
3 ай бұрын
Yeah the way they say it I agree, there are 3 layers of skin, from the top they are, epidermis, dermis and hypodermis. These look like dermis which would be the 2nd layer..
@europeanbrows
3 ай бұрын
love your content!!!! you are non bias and I enjoy your commentary as the case goes🙌🏼
@Amber2024.
3 ай бұрын
I can’t get past they never went inside that house. The way this investigation went is scary IMO. I don’t see the evidence against her the tail light stuff is just ehhhh. I hope this jury is paying really close attention!
@nayringel7663
3 ай бұрын
I cant get passed the red solo cups in the Stop and Shop bag behind her car. Screamed planting DNA!
@Amber2024.
3 ай бұрын
@@nayringel7663 by far a MESS of an investigation there’s just not enough and what’s there is all questionable for sure!
@suzannemammone3635
3 ай бұрын
I wanted to scream every time Proctor and Tullysaid “ we followed the evidence” and “ compelling evidence “ A broken taillight and a missing show is not compelling evidence
@EdwardLaberge
3 ай бұрын
When it snows, at least here in Canada, the night gets brighter, and I can see the coyottes in my fields. Before there is snow, the nights are dark and can hardly see 20ft.
@lizv3634
3 ай бұрын
Yes!! Thank you for your streamlined commentary! It helps so much!
@aileensteffens1720
3 ай бұрын
We love how you cover all the cases. You teach us a lot about process and what matter. You make sense of things for us. Well done to you
@delisehenry8465
3 ай бұрын
That’s why I tune in… because your explanations and commentaries make the case interesting,
@mamag4160
3 ай бұрын
If the police would have actually investigated, recused properly, and not acted like 12 yr old boys on text messages, and went into the house….there would not be reasonable doubt. But all this is looks SHADY
@Buttercup203
3 ай бұрын
I LOVE ur defense atty view on this case! And yes REASONABLE DOUBT is the only choice! Great stuff Peter!! 👍👍
@williamfreemon3878
3 ай бұрын
Keep doing what you are doing. Don’t worry about Twitter comments. As a fellow PI attorney I love the analysis. Can’t find any other fellow attorneys following the case I can pow wow with. Great Channel.
@CMpuffin
3 ай бұрын
I'm unsure whether she accidentally did it or if there is a cover up. However, in my mind, the unequivocally sloppy, biased, and incomplete investigation is ABSOLUTELY reason for a "reasonable doubt" acquittal. I would not convict her if I was on this jury due to the scary and abhorrent investigation!
@ang3432
3 ай бұрын
I think she did hit him but it wasn't on purpose. I also don't see where they proved beyond a reasonable doubt. And John is just getting lost in all of it.
@elisabeth8708
3 ай бұрын
I’m no lawyer but I have picked up on the pattern of: Lally gives the answer in his question, it gets objected to, then asks a different question and gets the answer he already provided. So probably the jury notices too.
@kristinerobb5109
3 ай бұрын
I don't think that this was a group of 25 some people all grouping together to conspire but I do think it's more than likely that 1 lie from the house ventured into a ton of different covers, for various reasons. Various people did various things and only had some knowledge.
@lindseystein9676
3 ай бұрын
All it takes is the people in the house sticking to their story and everyone else taking their word for it
@sumermaxwell6806
3 ай бұрын
I absolutely love hearing both sides and how you present it. You have become one of my top two favorite channels! I actually found you from Annie Elise and the two of you are my fave! Thanks for all you do!
@iceguy9723
3 ай бұрын
All else aside, these are awful detectives.
@nursebetsy5205
3 ай бұрын
They looked more like lacerations, not abrasions.
@leslievasquez2645
3 ай бұрын
Thank you, Nurse!!
@TracyLSingh-RN-JD
3 ай бұрын
I second that!!! As a nurse attorney for nurses.
@tigerlilygirl2643
3 ай бұрын
I disagree, as an ER, trauma and ICU RN for over 20 years, and so does the medical examiner who examined John O'Keefe's actual deceased body, not just a picture.
@TracyLSingh-RN-JD
3 ай бұрын
@@tigerlilygirl2643 I agree with you, photos are NOT sufficient enough, and it should be medical personnel making the determination, NOT the cops. Not sure why he was pushing abrasions when at least the photo I am referring to looks like scratches, superficial or not, a physical exam would be needed. At first glance, people will disagree.
@jonathanb.5328
3 ай бұрын
Assuming John was holding a glass in his right hand and was hit on the right side, when you fold his arm (post mortem picture) as if he were holding his arm next to his body the forearm and bicep scratches almost line up. Makes sense for his arm to be folded this way since it was cold and glass in his hand.
@eire711
3 ай бұрын
Heads are going to roll because of this trial. There should be a major shakeup in the Mass. State Police and in the Norfolk county's DA office. The elected officials, including the Gov., will only begin the process after the verdict. The process is sacrosanct.
@jacquiw804
3 ай бұрын
My Dad always said....listen, debate, discuss, and then, if neither party comes to the same decision, agree to disagree and leave it that. He was mainly talking about religion and politics, but it's still a good lesson 😊
@KKLegal
3 ай бұрын
when you smash a taillight, the pieces will fall inward into the housing area. this many would not ALL fly out in the opposite direction. i think they planted the pieces. it doesnt pass the physics test.
@paigecm
3 ай бұрын
excellent point & you are the first online i have heard mention this
@jannater28
3 ай бұрын
Waiting all trail for crash reconstruction expert to go over these types of details in court
@KKLegal
3 ай бұрын
@@paigecm thanks. they discussed it for a minute on court tv closing arguments show last week.
@melistasy
3 ай бұрын
What if some of the pieces catch or snag onto something and are then pulled outwards?
@Tammy_26Irwin
3 ай бұрын
And Plastic doesn’t fly like glass does so please explain to me even if she did hit him how the Plastic shattered and ended up 12 to 13 feet off the road it would end up in the road
@angiechaney6240
3 ай бұрын
Years ago there was a shooting across the street from where we lived. We called 911 after hearing someone yelling for help. The police came and talked to us separately and asked if they could come in. I said sure. They asked if they could look and see if anyone else was in our house. I said sure. They took our statements and left. The guy who was shot was treated and released. It's weird that they didn't want to go in the Alberts' house.
@kimhouse931
3 ай бұрын
Come on Colin- we know! Fess up!
@bethmccrae2714
3 ай бұрын
How dare you try to destroy the life of a person who was a child when Karen Reid killed John O'Keefe. Their cell phone GPS location data proves that Colin and John O'Keefe were never in the same place at the same time
@Unknown.servant
3 ай бұрын
@@bethmccrae2714😂😂😂
@Mooshkie50able
3 ай бұрын
If you got CCTV cams You clearly know that light was not broken as the police claim! If the light was that broken going past the parking lot video? It would be a very bright white ball of light on the camera! It was not! It was red! Usually police vehicles have car cams. Why or where is the video from the police truck with the plow on it that Higgins was driving?
@M5509x
3 ай бұрын
You're very fair and you explain everything fully. You're not boring like most of the podcasts. And it doesn't hurt that you have a nice face to look at.
@tarincarr9399
3 ай бұрын
Peter you’re amazing and I love your feedback . Thank you . Makes you look at both sides and no bias
@sherryparis5647
3 ай бұрын
If I was a juror my issue is the tunnel vision in this case. How was the house not cleared
@michele1330
3 ай бұрын
I’m a lot older but as kids the cops would come to house parties and came right in! No permission ever asked!!!!
@jimmymcnamara4742
3 ай бұрын
I have been hit by a car traveling around 45-50 mph. I had no injuries to my head and neck area only to my lower body and back. Did lose a shoe tho
@JeanMarieRN
3 ай бұрын
That sounds terrible.
@Underacactus
3 ай бұрын
I don’t understand why everyone’s so convinced the hair had to be planted. Have you ever tried to shake a loose hair off your wet hand compared to your dry hand? If the car was wet, of course it could stick that long (in my opinion).
@justforcomments9524
3 ай бұрын
There's a hair on my shower wall from 2015... 🤣. Seriously tho that's a good point.
@wiktoriagrochola3256
3 ай бұрын
They also lived together so the fact that there's hair or DNA on her car proves nothing in my opinion. I'm sure you can find plenty of my DNA and hair on my dad's car.
@db9289
3 ай бұрын
Thank you Peter! Your take on this trial is great. I’d love to hear what you and your dad have to say regarding more of the Ysl trial!
@davewade30
3 ай бұрын
What kind of bar lets you walk out with their glassware? I'm 45 and I've never seen that!
@brookearnold3690
3 ай бұрын
As a former bartender and general wild child, it happens often lol
@davewade30
3 ай бұрын
@@brookearnold3690Maybe it's a regional. Where I'm from there is almost always a guy at the door checking iDs and making sure people aren't leaving with drinks/glasses. I always assumed it was a liability thing. I saw people try to walk off with drinks, but someone always stopped them.
@kitkat9655
3 ай бұрын
I've seen it done many times
@davewade30
3 ай бұрын
@@kitkat9655 Okay, maybe I'm just going to the wrong bars.
@jeffreygreen1254
3 ай бұрын
Lt came in dressed like a video game character 😂
@kristyreynoldsapaintersdau9016
3 ай бұрын
Oh Peter you have been Lallyfied! Definition : watching Lally way too much can cause you to throw your phone, lose your mind and yes stick a fork in your eye.
@Unknown.servant
3 ай бұрын
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
@susurration19
3 ай бұрын
Not guilty isn't the same as innocent, but it's the only conclusion the jury can reach imo. The "evidence" is such a mess that even if the defendant is guilty the prosecution cannot prove it.
@FaultyFrontalLobe
3 ай бұрын
I agree
@lilgnomey
3 ай бұрын
At this stage I’m more at ‘incompetence and arrogance’ than ‘conspiracy’. These guys seemed to believe that whatever they said would become fact and so they weren’t thorough. So now even if KR did unalive JOK (which I believe would have been accidental), there’s just too much shoddy work to pin it down. ETA: lol one of the superchats said pretty much this but I posted before I saw that. 😂 Great minds.
@pattimilner6396
3 ай бұрын
I appreciate your point of view. How you explain things and that you are not one sided. Keep up the good work!!
@Lynds77
3 ай бұрын
DID NO ONE NOTICE THE WITNESS AFTER THIS GUY WHISPER "KIII ME" RIGHT INTO THE MIC ..... IT WAS WILD....
@sperry9968
3 ай бұрын
Sane people know why they didn't search the house. It's better to have the slur of a poor investigation with no consequences than to find evidence of one of your own and those consequences. Just saying
@horrormoviereactions
3 ай бұрын
Proctor keeps saying he's acting based on the overwhelming evidence he collected in the first 15 hours of investigation- when are we going to hear about this overwhelming evidence that points clearly at Karen Read committing premeditated murder to justify Proctor's intense hatred and his depraved conversations with friends and family? I wonder how Proctor would feel if a group of men sat around discussing his sister the way he and his buddies talked about Karen Read? I would literally never vote guilty if I was a juror on this case. Not for any piece of evidence, not for a confession and video in 4k of Karen doing the deed and then laughing maniacally and dancing on his body. The prosecution lost me at Jenn McCabe's testimony. Even if there's not an out and out conspiracy, they clearly didn't investigate this to the full extent that they could and should have. I do not believe the CW, not about anything. I hate that they're all such horrible people and they're getting away with it. No consequences.
@suzannemammone3635
3 ай бұрын
I agree 100 % I wish I was only jury , but at same time I would be ready to Scream, I would probably get escorted out of the courtroom
@horrormoviereactions
3 ай бұрын
@@suzannemammone3635 Same. There's no way I would have been able to sit on this jury!
@MKConnecticut
3 ай бұрын
Well said. Getting away with NO consequences
@MKConnecticut
3 ай бұрын
@@suzannemammone3635I’d have been escorted out during Jenn McCabe’s performance 🙄☺️
@RichardZabielski-ql9ss
3 ай бұрын
His evidence was solely talking to the mcalberts.
@blam4984
3 ай бұрын
My sister got hit by a car that was doing 10 MPH when her and I were crossing the street and she was injured from the thighs down. Nothing on the upper part of the body and she did fall to the ground. None of this hit by a car stuff makes sense
@101less
3 ай бұрын
So glad we have at least ONE reasonable lawyer reviewing cases on YT!
@christineniering1233
3 ай бұрын
So much reasonable doubt here NG!! Thanks Peter for your on-going brilliant unbiased coverage of this case and all the cases you cover for us all. 🙏😊
@John-w9m8d
3 ай бұрын
Of course leaving out the Best Attorney on the East Coast, The LAWYERS YOU KNOW !
@pathartley6614
3 ай бұрын
So much easier to understand with your informed explanation accompanying it all.
@Sleepingsparklegirl
3 ай бұрын
Just my opinion here, those who believe she’s guilty to me has me scratching my head. There is no evidence, I think people put to much into thinking that if someone is arrested they must be guilty, they forget that there’s is corruption in the legal system.
@shaunmelicj6808
3 ай бұрын
This guy is amazing..if I ever needed a lawyer I would hire him without a doubt...his explanations of what is happening , his theory as to why and what he would do if he handled the case is exceptional and entertaining...keep goin bruhh!😊😊
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