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@ashleelarsen5002
Жыл бұрын
🤟🏻 Tuesday date
@mousemd
Жыл бұрын
I was in Mass from 1960 to 1968. I remember that I went to Salem. IDR ever being around the Borden House?
@mousemd
Жыл бұрын
You think people will care in another 130 years?
@lorrainemulraney1925
Жыл бұрын
Nolittle house on the prime
@lorrainemulraney1925
Жыл бұрын
Like to awe Nellie haven't baby
@thetaoofkim5185
Жыл бұрын
What would have made this even better would be to have modern experts hear the details of the case WITHOUT knowing that it was the Lizzie Borden case.
@Loovalee
Жыл бұрын
Yes, and without the moderator inerfearing in the deliberation.
@victoriadeyot9321
Жыл бұрын
I thought the same thing!
@josephmatthews7698
8 ай бұрын
Not a lot of female axe murderers over the years. Pretty confident modern experts would have put 2 and 2 together and figured it out regardless especially when they were given the context of the era. No other female axe murderer in the 1800's. Any 'expert' would have pieced it together pretty quick.
@LoyalAsst
7 ай бұрын
There's little kids in China who jump rope to that little diddy. 🎵Lizzie Borden took an🪓🎵
@Veolette
5 ай бұрын
True
@proudmilitarybrat76
Жыл бұрын
The most horrifying part of this entire episode is the mock trial. Some of the jurors admitted to having doubt, yet still chose to go with a guilty verdict. WTF. Imagine being an innocent person and having jurors admit they had doubt, but "uuhhh...What the heck. Guilty works." It actually terrifies me.
@assholecommenter7438
Жыл бұрын
Ditto
@yikes7963
Жыл бұрын
It should terrify you!
@vincemiller4971
Жыл бұрын
Because they were being paid, of course there going to side withe the money
@SilverSwag56
Жыл бұрын
Me too!!! you have to have evidence, wtaf
@Dion-rz3fz
Жыл бұрын
Didn't even think of that but your right. Its supposed to be beyond a reasonable doubt. Yet they all had doubts! I don't get it. Of course it was only in recent years the original house was turned into a bed and breakfast. It would have been interesting to know what the people who purchased the house from Lizzie and her sister thought about moving into a house where such a notorious crime had occurred. Also, is there any acknowledgement of the notorious past resident by the current owners of "Maplecroft," the house where the sisters moved after the trial? Does it still stand?
@tyoung521
Жыл бұрын
Wow, I never expected 48 hours would cover such an old case like this. I like it though, I’d love to see more like this one in the future.
@portiamatthews9654
Жыл бұрын
I'm surprised as well. It was a good episode and I hope that they will do other cold cases as well.
@jeremiahrowesr.3130
Жыл бұрын
They probably have some new evidence into who killed her stepmother and father. I believe it was Lizzie hopefully this is some new evidence come out. I know this happened over 100 years ago but hopefully this is new evidence. Let’s get them or her.
@autumnbee7936
Жыл бұрын
Covid content..that's the first thing that came to mind
@lisav6015
2 ай бұрын
Yeah, I also liked the one about the Black Dalia. It was so interesting! The LA detective whose father was the prime suspect. If you haven’t watched it, you’d really like it!
@yvonnecooper5004
22 күн бұрын
@@lisav6015I remember thar one. Great episode.
@StraightFireVR
Жыл бұрын
This was so good. I hope they do this with more historical cases
@jamesclark8931
Жыл бұрын
I was thinking the same thing I really enjoyed this one I ran across it earlier today and I've been locked in very very good!!!
@illusion2719
Жыл бұрын
Just what I was thinking. It was so interesting.
@MA7-6585
Жыл бұрын
This case may be in a class by itself
@zombywoof7309
Жыл бұрын
@Lyndsey 79 there's videos of paranormal investigations on KZitem of the teerifyingly skeery haunted bedrooms. They are super duper skeery. MAKE NO MISTAKE ABOUT IT! LOL
@zombywoof1015
Жыл бұрын
Click the pinned link provided by 48 Hours you pine cone. 😆😂🤣
@ctuero
Жыл бұрын
i stayed over at the lizzie borden house b&b and took the evening tour, and the tour guides at the house seem to believe that it was a conspiracy between emma, lizzie, and uncle john. Emma assists as a character witness and destroys evidence, uncle john assists lizzie with the murders while the maid is asleep, emma and lizzie inherit and give john a kick back
@spikebloodworth1
Жыл бұрын
I wasnt thinking john was in on it but I did entertain the idea the maid helped Lizzie.
@luminousmoon86
Жыл бұрын
It's been pretty well proven that John was nowhere near the house during the time of the crime. He was literally physically present with other relatives for most of that day.
@cynthiaburrus3901
Жыл бұрын
Add the illegitimate son and that is something to believe.
@cynthiaburrus3901
Жыл бұрын
@@luminousmoon86 He easily could have killed Abbey who WAS DEAD...HOURS...BEFORE ANDREW CAME HOME.
@heatherlundquist-buffalo
7 ай бұрын
Definitely 👍 I believe John played a huge part.
@Cutie11083
Жыл бұрын
Her father giving the house to the in-laws was the final straw. They had to go.
@bamaangel7146
Жыл бұрын
The in-laws is who I think did it Lizzie Borden didn't
@heatherfulmore3412
Жыл бұрын
@@bamaangel7146 yes they were trying to get rid of Lizzie . They didn't want to keep her there .
@realhousewifeoftransylvania1.0
Жыл бұрын
@@bamaangel7146 That makes no sense.
@Haleighmaineee
Жыл бұрын
I think it was John Morse
@serialsquadron
Жыл бұрын
That is absolutely correct and while trouble had been building up for years with Lizzie conducting other verbal and psychological assaults on both parents she did NOT want that house to be given away and made sure she stopped its transfer.
@gonavy1
Жыл бұрын
What I find surprising is the people picked for the jury never heard of Lizzie Borden.
@ginacampbell8766
Жыл бұрын
Thats the type of jury every court wants 🙄
@gonavy1
Жыл бұрын
@@ginacampbell8766 That's understandable I'm just saying it's hard to believe people have never heard of Lizzie Borden.
@Therezumee92
Жыл бұрын
Why? First time I hear this case. She's that much of ''a legend''?
@tanyareynolds9339
Жыл бұрын
I was as surprised as you. I’ve heard that phrase all of my life!!!
@heathermccosby2371
Жыл бұрын
My kids know who lizzy Borden is!
@l.palmer6747
Жыл бұрын
I cannot believe there were twelve people living in America with access to books, tv, radio and other people who have never heard of Lizzie Borden. Boggles my mind.
@Malepical
Жыл бұрын
They lied to get on tv 😂
@Snapepet
Жыл бұрын
So many people are COMPLETELY OBLIVIOUS to ANYTHING before their time. They see a VHS or rotary phone or even something as simple as an address book and they are mystified. I grew up watching old movies and tv shows...I learned what things before my time were. NOT SURE why no one catches on anymore. No one now ever heard of Jack the Ripper? John Wayne Gacy?
@whataboutrob442
11 ай бұрын
I am sure they could have found thousands.
@Malepical
10 ай бұрын
@Johnnybigbooty NObody is 2000 years old and yet 95% of people have heard of the Bible.. the rest are infants 🤦🏽♀️
@Nicolethomas51312
10 ай бұрын
This is my first time hearing of her and Im 50 years old. I know now. :)
@annemariewilliams180
Жыл бұрын
I always suspected that there might have been a 2nd person involved. It would explain the lack of blood on Lizzie, how the doors were locked, and how she managed to be home and not hear a thing.
@Haleighmaineee
Жыл бұрын
I believe it was her uncle John Morse
@serialsquadron
Жыл бұрын
Head wounds do not spurt horror-movie blood, they leak. Lizzie would not have had any blood on her at all that did not fly off the front of the hatchet during the murders. Try chopping at a pumpkin with a hatchet sometime and see if you get covered in pumpkin juice. The doors were locked because Bridget locked the front door as always after she let Mr. Borden in the house and because Lizzie, after going out to the barn to saw the head off the hatchet, locked the door when she came in. Who says Lizzie "didn't hear a thing?" She never said any such thing; she saw and heard everything about the murders because she was the one who committed them. And decided not to try to fabricate stories about another assassin being involved which someone might catch her on in some lie; instead her bizarre tactic seemed to be to suggest that no one did it at all and if someone would have entered the house she would have seen him do so. This makes NO sense but it confused people enough to sort of stop them in their tracks. So it was either a brilliant tactic or accidentally worked in her favor, depending on how you look at things.
@betha.ostrander4127
Жыл бұрын
I recommend staying at the Lizzie Borden inn. If you do, you'll quickly be startled by one thing these programs NEVER mention, the acoustics of the house. You could hear guests in the attic while standing in the basement. You could conversations in the parlor in your room (in whispers). They HAD to say the maid was washing windows in order for the story to work, but there is no way Lizzie was at home (as she claimed) and did not hear/see a thing. Once you stay there, the case is closed. Also, if you like that sort of thing, children were murdered next door and psychics go to the Borden estate just to speak to the children in LIzzie's attic who apparently took a liking to the place.
@KellyDFlynn
Жыл бұрын
Murdered next door?
@CH84015
Жыл бұрын
Did it seem haunted ?
@mariamaria2751
Жыл бұрын
What children.? When? Why?
@spitfire3984
Жыл бұрын
@Rebecca N that’s what I’m wondering. My hearing is so bad…someone could be slaughtered in my home and I wouldn’t hear it. 😩
@Any-Okra
Жыл бұрын
@@spitfire3984 my Aunt is the same way. I have bad vision and I know it bothers me so much. I have to get eye injections every other month
@Vanadisir
Жыл бұрын
The burning of the dress is curious. It would have been the sort of thing a maid was responsible for not the girls. And if they weren't very well off as a family a dress is a lot of fabric to just burn. From my understanding old clothes would have been reused, even if just for cleaning rags.
@cyankirkpatrick5194
Жыл бұрын
In the trial, the dress has paint on it rendering it ruined.
@Vanadisir
Жыл бұрын
@@cyankirkpatrick5194 unless the entire dress was dunked in a vay of paint there would have been salvageable fabric for cloths.
@kellyjacquin715
Жыл бұрын
Exactly!
@kellyjacquin715
Жыл бұрын
@@cyankirkpatrick5194 it wasnt mentioned in the trial. And no one ever says what color the paint was. Who painted there house blood red in those days? If the paint were white, that one thing, but if it was blood red or brown even, thats incrimatating.
@cyankirkpatrick5194
Жыл бұрын
@@kellyjacquin715 True but I've been following this for a very long time, I'm just tired of them still pointing a finger at her only the Creator knows who did it and he was a hated man in Fall River MA. A heartless slumlord.
@MildredCady
Жыл бұрын
And they did forget to mention that the reason why Lizzie and her sister fell out with each other was that Lizzie had been bringing a bunch of people, mainly theater people to the house for parties, and Emma just wanted some peace and quiet. There’s also the possibility that Lizzie ended up in a lesbian relationship with an actress and her sister did not approve.
@jgrab1
4 ай бұрын
Total speculation, all.
@jasonmcveigh9399
Жыл бұрын
What would have been interesting is if after the trial they had told the jury of the two key pieces of information the judge denied the original jury hearing, the attempt ti buy the poison the day before and the burning of the dress the day after.
@Farmer-bh3cg
Жыл бұрын
As an older adult, Lizzie Borden would often offer cookies and milk to the neighborhood children. Some of the parents would not let their children enjoy the treats. When one child asked her mother why, the mother said, "She was not very nice to her parents."
@jenniferhorstmann2279
16 күн бұрын
😂 understatement of the century 😂
@rosegeaber7533
Жыл бұрын
This was interesting but very limited with information! In my study of this case , John Morse, the brother of Lizzie’s biological mother, had arrived at their house a day or two before the murders. He was known for just appearing there from somewhere out West. He was also known to arrive with just the clothes on his back. Another interesting detail is that one of his first jobs upon moving West was that of a butcher. I really think he had a lot more to do with this than we currently know. Supposedly he was away visiting relatives at the time of the murders… food for thought!
@DiddlyD-xx2ih
Жыл бұрын
I've always suspected Uncle John.
@erynmarie9648
6 ай бұрын
John's alibi was a little TOO perfect
@rosegeaber7533
6 ай бұрын
I wouldn’t put it past him in that Lizzie could have offered him money from her father’s estate. I believe the Dad was giving her biological Mom’s estate to his new wife’s family! That would’ve been John Morse’s sister’s land in Seekonk, MA.
@AllAmericanJock
2 күн бұрын
My theory is that this was a conspiracy involving Morse, Lizzie, Emma. Maybe Bridget was paid off too. I think Morse swung the hatchet. Perhaps the other relative Morse says he was visited was paid to help provide his abili.
@furball192
Жыл бұрын
I think it was the uncle. How do we know exactly what time he left that morning? He could have had time to commit the murders and leave.
@MiyukiZero
Жыл бұрын
I think Lizzie could have asked him to.
@katarzynamuszynska5426
Жыл бұрын
Ok but what reason it was a Brother of the father ?
@juliewagner8240
Жыл бұрын
No the uncle was the bio mom’s brother not the father’s.
@candy3388
Жыл бұрын
What is scary about this is that there were several jurors who had doubt but they still said guilty
@Madamegato
Жыл бұрын
But it's not "doubt" that makes you say not guilty. It's "beyond a reasonable doubt." Meaning, you can doubt something, but be more convinced something did happen than not.
@dal8963
Жыл бұрын
If it's a reasonable doubt then you should error in that they are not guilty as we have decided its better to let a guilty man walk free then to punish a innocent one.
@candy3388
Жыл бұрын
@@Madamegato I don’t know those jurors were really questioning the case . It seems to me that it was as if they were taking a test in school and they picked the better answer . Pretty scary
@mortimerbrewster3671
Жыл бұрын
@@Madamegato Their doubts were reasonable. They should have come back with not guilty.
@dolinaj1
Жыл бұрын
To be tried by a jury of your peers is a terrifying prospect.
@BarnabyBaltimoron
Жыл бұрын
I went to high school with an Elizabeth Borden. She didn’t like it when people called her Lizzie
@melindashaw7568
Жыл бұрын
Oh man her parents should have named her that! Oi!
@jenniferhorstmann2279
16 күн бұрын
Good grief! That poor girl! If your last name was Borden WHY ON EARTH would you name your daughter Elizabeth!?
@foechicken8023
Жыл бұрын
The more of these I watch the more I see people convicting people on their emotions rather than facts. Hoe many people have been convicted because the jurors felt like they were guilty? Lizzie may have been guilty but the actual evidence doesn't bear this out.
@AllAmericanJock
2 күн бұрын
Exactly. The verdict was right no matter how one feels about Lizzie. This case has reasonable doubt all over the place.
@RLU-wt8vi
Жыл бұрын
Her father was still warm & oozing blood when police showed up. Lizzie was completely clean. Did the maid see her in a different dress than in the morning? I believe she killed her stepmother. She had time to wash the blood out of her hair & clean up, after she let her brother-in-law in to wait for the father. They did not want to lose the estate to the stepmother's family. Per the law, at that time, had she not died first, they would have lost it all.
@cassielong6617
Жыл бұрын
Lizzie claimed she had to burn a dress due to a stain on it.
@Dion-rz3fz
Жыл бұрын
One book I read speculated she may have been naked when she did it. That would certainly eliminate the clothing issue, and nothing to throw away. The burning of the dress though, really seems suspicious. Maybe it was put on over her blood spattered naked body? In order to look o.k. to the neighbor. Then disposed of the next day, because there would be blood on the inside of it.
@RLU-wt8vi
Жыл бұрын
@@Dion-rz3fz I have read that also. But, what about blood spatter? Have you read/heard anything about that?
@Dion-rz3fz
Жыл бұрын
@@RLU-wt8vi Like I said in my previous comment, maybe she put on a clean dress over her blood spattered naked body in order to look clean for the neighbor. A few drops of blood in her hair could just be wiped away probably. They also said that due to the parts of the victims bodies that were injured, there may not have been a lot of visible spatter anyway. They said there was blood all around the victims of course. Not sure they would have even been able to tell about microscopic particles back then anyway. Plus the crime was so unusual for that time and place, they probably did not do a really good and proper investigation anyway, as they weren't used to anything like that. Even though she was probably guilty, you must remember that when the jury comes back with a "not guilty" verdict, they are not necessarily saying she is innocent. They are required to base their decision on whether there could be a reasonable doubt. And apparently they had just enough of a possible doubt to render the "not guilty" verdict.
@serialsquadron
Жыл бұрын
Lizzie wore an old Bedford Cord (light corduroy) house dress which actually did have a brown paint stain on the bottom of it when she committed the murders. She gave a dark blue Bengaline silk dress to police, however, when they asked her for what she had been wearing earlier. Both Mrs. Churchill and Bridget had seen her in the Bedford Cord dress, though, so they both knew she was lying to police and was probably guilty of the murders as a result.
@lovelight6973
Жыл бұрын
I really love hearing about this case for years. But I don't think I could ever sleep in the Lizzie Borden house that would creep me out.
@KellyDFlynn
Жыл бұрын
I did, it was weird for sure
@lovelight6973
Жыл бұрын
@@KellyDFlynn tell me more. What happened in your experience there?
@buffalojill4839
Жыл бұрын
It's absolutely IMPOSSIBLE that anyone in this country has not heard of Lizzie Borden. 🤔
@ghostlight-explores
Жыл бұрын
I used to think it was impossible to not know major historic events in one's own country, but over the years I've encountered way too many people who haven't heard of many even more prominent moments that I'm not surprised at all. This was 130 years ago and lots of people just aren't interested in history.
@buffalojill4839
Жыл бұрын
@@ghostlight-explores I’m worried for the future then, since History repeats itself, when you’re grossly unaware if it.
@l.w.4701
Жыл бұрын
@@buffalojill4839 there are a lot of unsolved murders and missing people.
@TakingPhotosAlongtheWay
Жыл бұрын
Ugh I love history! ❤️ From South Africa and I’ve known of her and this case for a while.
@buffalojill4839
Жыл бұрын
@@TakingPhotosAlongtheWay I love History too. If I had to pick a major in college again, I would pick History. :)
@minnahumble2294
Жыл бұрын
You have skipped over important evidence. The floor plan of the house was crucial. Two of the three doors to the outside were locked leaving only the side door (where Bridget Sullivan was washing windows) for anyone to enter the house and Bridget said no one entered. That left only Lizzie inside, although Bridget could have gone inside but, there was no apparent motive for Bridget to commit the murders. Another salient fact was that Lizzie had killed the stepmother’s cat with a hatchet in the recent past. She hated Abbie and hated Abbie’s cat. She sounds like a woman who was seething with hatred and resentment. There is a very good book written by a judge in that district in the 20th century. He studied the trial transcript and analysed the case concluding that no one but Lizzie could have killed the victims. I cannot remember how he eliminated Bridget Sullivan. I think the book was entitled simply Lizzie Borden.
@goldsbym
Жыл бұрын
OLE LIZZY outsmarted the good ole boys of the Jury by fainting when the skulls were brought into court.
@tigger06
Жыл бұрын
Virtually impossible that ANYONE in the country has never heard of Lizzie Borden. IMPOSSIBLE
@anneofgreengables1619
8 ай бұрын
I haven't...
@Amber-rk6em
8 ай бұрын
Ppl are irritating with this comment. It is ignorant to think that literally everyone is the country has heard of a case that happened 100 years ago. OJ? That is something different. Please stop with it. Everyone has different life experiences.
@raymondlucero4999
Жыл бұрын
I remember hearing the "jingle" related to this crime when I was a child? At time not understanding just how gruesome the crime was described by the words of the jingle? It was not until Elizabeth Montgomery ⭐'d in the leading role as Lizzy Borden that I had realized just what the heck we were singing? RIP Ms. Elizabeth Montgomery. Such a gifted, talented, and fine actresses. And even more so a lovely woman with a beautiful soul.
@sarahburggraf907
Жыл бұрын
Me too. I was born almost 100 years after but grew up hearing this jingle
@dianatopoulos5602
3 ай бұрын
This was one heck of a great movie. I remember it really well. Lizzie‘s guilty for sure!
@montythepoodlepup9634
Жыл бұрын
I still don't know watching this whether lizzie was innocent or guilty. Such an interesting case but so extremely sad for all involved. Erin Moriarty brilliant presenter, hope you and all your team keep up the historical crime cases. Watching UK 🇬🇧
@lisasmith9311
Жыл бұрын
I don’t think she did only because the house was being watched by someone day before
@Makanalii
Жыл бұрын
When they say that she didn't have any blood, yet burned her dress the day after, I kind of wonder.
@lisasmith9311
Жыл бұрын
@@Makanalii you have a good point
@itzAngie81
Жыл бұрын
@@Makanalii if you watch the movie think it’s Lizzie Borden took an axe starring Elizabeth Montgomery..in the movie they show Lizzie remove her clothes and commit the crimes naked which makes sense IMO
@addicted367
Жыл бұрын
@@itzAngie81 then there would be no need to burn a dress
@denisebest2284
Жыл бұрын
I was always so intrigued with this story. I thinks she did it.
@sandiebrecken1897
Жыл бұрын
I loved this report, I remembered hearing about this story many years ago, I find it hard that this panel of jurers would not have heard this story to date
@STORMDAME
7 ай бұрын
I played this vid to my 69 year old husband and was really surprised that he'd never heard of her. I didn't think it was possible but it apparently is.
@eja1022
Жыл бұрын
I think that if an intruder committed these crimes the blood would still be all over the place so that goes to tell you that somebody in the house cleaned it up and I think Lizzie Borden is definitely guilty of these crimes
@carolinejohnson845
Жыл бұрын
Yes!!!
@serialsquadron
Жыл бұрын
That's correct, but no one could have gotten into the house when its doors were locked, as they were. Lizzie was actually careful not to even knock over the small table with books on it in front of the sofa when she killed Andrew. Didn't want to make a mess or anything.
@tracypolselli1464
Жыл бұрын
We visited Fall River all the time when I was a kid. My Dad was born there and his extended family is still there. I wish I’d known, I would have pestered him to go to the Lizzie Borden house before we left the East Coast.
@eastonvonschist2283
4 ай бұрын
I have never been on a jury nor would I want to be on a jury passing judgement on a complete stranger for a crime that I was not there to witness. No way.
@Any-Okra
Жыл бұрын
God I hope my life is never in the hands of a small group of ppl. What a nightmare
@robgau2501
Жыл бұрын
The reason Lizzie had no blood on her is the dress. Those dresses cover them from high neck, down. Put on some gloves and a hat and all you need to do is clean your face and burn the dress, which is exactly what she did.
@jgrab1
4 ай бұрын
But when the detectives came to interview her she was still wearing the dress. She burned it three days later.
@RD-nq7fl
Жыл бұрын
I am a native of Austin TX and grew up hearing stories of The Servant Girl Annihilator, also known as the Austin Axe Murderer and the Midnight Assassin, was an unidentified American serial killer who preyed upon the city of Austin, Texas, between 1884 and 1885. I have always hoped these type of shows would take on this case.
@valerietaylor1124
10 ай бұрын
If she didn't do it, who did? She's guilty.. who burns dresses the day after the funeral, weird.
@jennifermorrales3389
Жыл бұрын
thank you so much for this video I really enjoyed it can’t wait to see more like this ❤
@NennieC123
Жыл бұрын
You take an ax to 2 people- you’d absolutely have blood on you. Not Guilty
@ghostlight-explores
Жыл бұрын
Not just on you, but every where. Hacking someone lying down, standing above them, with an axe with enough force to shatter the skull as much as was done, would throw castoff onto the wall and on the ceiling (as the perpetrator brought the axe back between blows). In the timeline as laid out in the original case, I don't think it could have been a lone perpetrator. Not enough time to do both murders, change (women's clothes in that era was not quickly changed), clean blood splatter (as suggest by the bucket of bloody rags), and dispose of the dress and axe. Investigators missed a lot, I think.
@bajramielika2990
Жыл бұрын
They were doing like 140 years ago , no DNA no Luminol .
@NennieC123
Жыл бұрын
Interesting- makes a good conversation
@kublakhan1334
Жыл бұрын
If they voted not guilty because they believed a woman was not capable of such violence , they were wrong.
@utubefreshie
Жыл бұрын
So fascinating and riveting! Love this episode. The historical aspect is very engaging especially for combination history, costume drama and true crime buffs like me. I would've loved to sit on a pretend jury too for something like this! hehe And if I were on the jury then yes, she's definitely guilty! Lizzie Borden had the motivation and all the circumstantial evidence was there. She could've covered herself with another dress or changed and she basically cleaned up hence the bloody rags in the bucket in the basement. Finally, the burnt dress days later was the most telling proof that she was burning evidence of her crime. I don't know about her stepmother but her father did sound like a controlling man and most likely why she was resentful of him. Anyway I loved how you ended the episode with the infamous rhyme. hehe Great consultant guests too! Well done!
@littlefairyland763
Жыл бұрын
Agree... She is guilthy... The proof is she bought an expensive house after that. Her motive was money. She want live comfortably and elegant
@deliarodriquez7129
Жыл бұрын
Remember they said that the house didn't have in doors pipes. So how did she wash out the blood on her image all that blood she must had on her.
@PaperMario64
Жыл бұрын
Where is the cast off blood with each swing? If the father was freshly killed and still oozing, that doesn’t seem to give her enough time to wash herself clean and change. Was the uncle examined and questioned? So many questions.
@ghostlight-explores
Жыл бұрын
Agreed. The investigation feels lacking.
@jgrab1
4 ай бұрын
> Was the uncle examined and questioned? So many questions. Yes. He supposedly had an airtight alibi, as did Emma.
@alliesinger297
Жыл бұрын
Love their intro music. Always something about the sound of the cello or violin that creates amazing suspense and intensity
@katiix
Жыл бұрын
Imagine Lizzie didn't do it. They've been making money off her name for years.
@moderator7169
Жыл бұрын
technically she was found not guilty so same thing
@hatednyc
Жыл бұрын
I’m a believer of oft dismissed theory that Liz and her sis were being abused by dad, ignored by mom and without any other solution. Lizzie did what had to be done.
@cyankirkpatrick5194
Жыл бұрын
Step mom
@americaneclectic
Жыл бұрын
Lizzie went with a cousin to Europe the summer before all this happened and seems to have enjoyed the freedom she had in Europe. Also makes life at home like a prison. After the trial, she and sister moved to Snob Knob with a much larger home, and Lizzie hung out with actors and a “fast” group that Emma detested. I think her motive was to gain her freedom.
@cyankirkpatrick5194
Жыл бұрын
@@americaneclectic If she did it, again no one ever checked out no one else's alibi, Again Mr. Borden was the most hated man in Fall River, a lot of people really wanted him dead. Besides he was about to leave everything to his wife and nothing to his daughter's so what does that say. He didn't want them to marry because he had to provide a dowry and him being a cheap skate says a lot.
@americaneclectic
Жыл бұрын
@@cyankirkpatrick5194 But why would Abby be killed? She was a harmless lady. But Emma and Lizzie hated her with a passion. So Lizzie is the best option for her death.
@cyankirkpatrick5194
Жыл бұрын
@@americaneclectic Abby wasn't a good step mother, either she was hateful towards miss Sullivan the former maid she kept calling her the former maids name how disrespectful is that. Besides I always got accused of things just because I was there, and I got so tired of it, but it came to an embarrassing head, I was in Missouri when it happened, the one who birthed me screaming my name saying where did I hide the butter and she even walked into my room and I wasn't there and she went outside and screamed my name again and someone said she's in Missouri, and it finally registered that I wasn't there, after awhile everyone started talking about how she might have been lying after all about me. But she still said I had something to do with it under her breath.
@kate2create738
Жыл бұрын
Definitely one of the most fascinating ways to present this crime case, taking it to the 21st century perspective and see what a modern trial and jury would believe, genius.
@CoffeeCakeCrumble
Жыл бұрын
If Emma was gone visiting, could she had left one of her dresses for Lizzie to wear over her own like a smock to do the deed? This would allow for a quick wardrobe change to cover up any blood splatter. As far as I know they did no inventory of Emma's clothing. When the bodies were still laid out in the parlor after the autopsies, could Lizzie have put that dress in one of the coffins and had it buried with them? There was no robbery, this was a personal rage killing that I believe Lizzie was capable of. Plenty of women were murderers up to that point in history so I'm not buying the wispy delicate church going gal routine.
@Eyewonder3210
Жыл бұрын
She burned a dress in the stove with her friend testifying to this.
@CoffeeCakeCrumble
Жыл бұрын
@@Eyewonder3210 she burned her own dress, not one of Emma's.
@teevannel3468
Жыл бұрын
Or she wasn't wearing any clothes when she did it...that was also depicted in a movie about it starring Elizabeth Montgomery.
@MrsWarriorRed33med
Жыл бұрын
@@teevannel3468 and Christina ricci. Naked
@LeandelDeFate
Жыл бұрын
You know she did it.
@isabellavalencia8026
Жыл бұрын
There was no running water so she couldn't of cleaned herself up.....yet this was obviously very personal
@angiekunzler5305
Жыл бұрын
where was the maid
@angelacarlock3574
Жыл бұрын
I'll always believe she was guilty. Today's forensics with DNA would have been her downfall. IMO
@Fireproofwitchnz
Жыл бұрын
She has super crazy eyes. I remember when Amy Allen from The Dead Files did an episode on her, it was so creepy.
@manda.watching.YouTube
Жыл бұрын
I keep wondering what color they were.
@samanthab1923
Жыл бұрын
What did Amy say happened?
@Fireproofwitchnz
Жыл бұрын
@Samantha B A lot of sick sexual abuse and incest, including between Lizzie and her own sister. Lizzie killed them both and according to Amy, was a very mentally unstable woman. Extremely manic and disturbed. It was one of the most unsettling episodes I've seen and I'm actually quite the skeptic lol
@cassielong6617
Жыл бұрын
@@Fireproofwitchnz Lizzie was not the one who did it she was found not guilty, I read this article of a woman who says that Emma Borden came to her in a dream and told her that she did it and she said that Emma explained how she did it and told the woman to write down everything she said she did to them and so she wrote a book on it called “I did it”
@rogerfarias4506
Жыл бұрын
Nice! An episode about H.H. Holmes would be much apprecited.
@jeanneromaine3146
Жыл бұрын
I recently heard that one of her father's employees committed 2 murders while the trial was in process, and that he had hid in the house of his victims. Raises many questions, yes? Lizzie expressed she had great concern that her father had many enemies, and feared something was going to happen. She may have heard rumors pertaining to this that caused her real fears. Actual fears. Factual fears. Yes, why leave menstrual rags soaking for all to see? Why not burn them? Even her seamstress testified the dress was ruined by paint that her sister suggest she burn. The murderer could have been hiding in the house.
@cheeselewoo4825
11 ай бұрын
My Mother told me her Victorian Mother (my grandmother) and all the daughters use to soak and wash the menstrual rags to be used again and again in the late 1800's and early 1900's. My Mother was born in 1913 and they still did it then for years but by the time I was born in the 50's we didn't use mentrual rags as Dr White's sanitary pads had been invented. We did however always have a bucket with our handkerchiefs soaking and then boiling on the old black range. I remember it was disgusting but when they were rinsed and all dry, it was my job to iron them with an old flat iron that was heated on the range and I also had the pleasant job of ironing the bonny ribbons for our hair. Happy days 😂
@Youraveragedemon-n3r
Жыл бұрын
What a crazy story. I have family who live in Massachusetts and I visit all the time. I actually spent the night at the Borden house inn, sat at the same table they ate at, sat on the very same couch & slept on the same bed. Soon as I walked into the house I was overwhelmed with extreme anxiety & energy. Such a small narrow home with so much heavy gruesome energy in it. I believe I'm sensitive to energy so it was hard to get through the night without getting the creeps but it was a fun experience & brought back a cup with an original crime scene photo on the cup.
@KellyDFlynn
Жыл бұрын
The furniture is not original
@katarzynamuszynska5426
Жыл бұрын
Would you say ,you felt someone presence? But is it house looks the same as it was the 100 years ago? Is it hotel now?
@Thepumpkinvinecreek
Жыл бұрын
I’ve taken a tour, never spent the night. I agree, very dark heavy energy in that house.
@katarzynamuszynska5426
Жыл бұрын
@@Thepumpkinvinecreek where is that house?
@Thepumpkinvinecreek
Жыл бұрын
@@katarzynamuszynska5426 Fall River, Massachusetts
@Bouzsi
Жыл бұрын
Well, that’s disappointing. I was under the impression that with concern to the murders of the mother and father, respectively, she had been given forty whacks, and he, forty-one.
@francocasentieri932
Жыл бұрын
One of the most stunning Document-Series i saw in my life, I am 57...
@raymondkymsuttle
Жыл бұрын
Here’s an explanation - she took one of her seal skin coats & covered the victims with them as they slept (maybe drugged) and then bludgeoned them. That would explain lack of blood & it would be easier to clean off the seal skin.
@Lmlm8168
Жыл бұрын
I’m still not convinced she did this 🤷♀️ & the fact that we as women haven’t even been able to be on juries for 100 years yet atm ? SMH 🤦♀️
@Vlad-dc2jz
6 ай бұрын
The moral of this story - don't be a cheap squandrel and if you have money - provide for your daughter. Also - be nice to your daughter and to your stepdaughter - and you might stay alive. What a story!
@jessicahawks3223
Жыл бұрын
The retrial thing they did just showed how much cases majority of the time now depend on dna evidence more than anything. I have been fascinated by this case for a very long time and I've never been completely sure she was guilty..I always wanted to know more about the uncle that stayed there more personally.. its hard to believe that even at the moments the family were on their deathbed no one came out and confessed knowing the truth or admitting guilt in the end if they did it. Why go to the grave with that if they did do it..I'm sure people do it all the time but it's just a thought in my head
@SG-rb4bz
Жыл бұрын
Loved this cold case episode, you should make more of these. It goes to show how jury system is not flawless, even today. Good luck to innocent people facing trials :(
@Roni69420
Жыл бұрын
I stayed in the house alone this year in June. I stayed up in the maids room on the third floor. I personally believe it was the maid who helped Lizzie because they new there would be a mess and the maid knew to keep the scene clean. The house is haunted by Lizzie’s aunt. She killed her three children. She’s a meeeean spirit in the house but sometimes she can be really sweet it just depends if she likes you lol
@beez5338
Жыл бұрын
Where is the blood splatter? it would be extremely difficult for her to move the bodies and clean all that mess. Blood on the underdress suggests the suspect was telling the truth about the rags.
@cassielong6617
Жыл бұрын
She didn’t move the bodies nor was she there when it happened.. or so she claimed she said she was outside and then came inside to find her father dead
@jennodine
Жыл бұрын
I’d love to know more of the family history and dynamics.
@stopihaveangerissues
8 ай бұрын
I don’t feel that good now watching this
@elizabethsalvatore1633
Жыл бұрын
Wow! I loved this movie with Elizabeth Montgomery! The movie showed that clearly it was Lizzie! She committed the crime NAKED ,( I think)and laid clothes around her father before , and washed the walls after killing her father, and step mother.I love this show. Thank you 48 hours.❤
@markdaniels7174
Жыл бұрын
Hopefully the 48 Hours piece has shown you what a sensational load of BS that movie was.
@yikes7963
Жыл бұрын
Christina Ricci played that part I believe.
@darryl3422
Жыл бұрын
That wasn't suggested at the trial but was probably used in the movie to get Elisibeth naked that's what everyone remembers so it worked
@rickeypeace5666
Жыл бұрын
Wonderful show 🤩
@AStorms_Coming
Жыл бұрын
There was a movie with Kristen Stewart in it.
@shanehisle1294
6 ай бұрын
The standard is "convince me beyond reasonable doubt" not "is the evidenced good enough to convict"
@outlawaz1266
Жыл бұрын
Fascinating story I'm torn
@snl4742
Жыл бұрын
I'm a little obsessed about certain cases from the past and this is one of them. My biggest issue with this whole thing is. If anybody's ever been in an old house they're not really soundproof if anything you could hear everything in an old house someone's upstairs if someone's talking in a room you can hear it. And I'm just wondering how the maid can be outside upstairs where was she was and not hear somebody killing two people. They weren't suffocated with pillows. They were killed with an axe. I just do not believe that it was a silent crime and that nobody heard it. I think it was a conspiracy. And multiple people were involved, including Lizzie.
@MrScubajsb
Жыл бұрын
This was excellent. More of this please
@yvonnecooper5004
Жыл бұрын
Yes. I thought this was very good too. Cool to see the house. I would never stay there.
@dpiroch
Жыл бұрын
A lot of details of the crime were left out. For instance, there was a fair lag of time between the death of the two parents. Lizzy was also not in the house the whole time. The help their father gave their stepmother's family by buying a property was also reciprocated by putting properties in his daughters' names, too. But there was a terrible ill feeling in the family and due to Catholic prejudice, they never even learned Bridget's name, calling her by the previous servant's name.
@Littlewolf13
Жыл бұрын
Lizzie was acquitted- NOT bc she was a woman- but bc there was NO EVIDENCE!
@sandymckee6958
Жыл бұрын
I find it extremely hard to believe to find one american let alone 8 that has never heard of Lizzie Borden
@plaintiffsbugs599
Жыл бұрын
she is the one who told the neighbor that her father and stepmother is died,maybe she has a companion that time cleaning and killing both,its just my opinion.
@janiceburns5089
Жыл бұрын
Only told neighbor that father was dead. Did not initially mention stepmother.
@petmomful2260
2 ай бұрын
I have always been fascinated by this case. In 2006 my husband and I went to Lizzie's house and spent 3 days and nights. It was incredible. The museum in town has an entire room with everything dedicated to the case. Even the braid hacked off of Abby's head is there! We slept in the room where Abby was killed. I took some ghost hunting equipment and just a couple of small things happened. I had to book that room 6 months in advance to get it. I will never forget that trip!
@cassielong6617
Жыл бұрын
Ok now I’m thinking Emma lied to the court about Lizzie and her having a convo that went Lizzie:you have given me away havent you?” Emma: no I have not I just read a court convo where emma says that convo never happened I’m now wondering if emma was lying to the court 🤔does anyone else understand this confusion? There was a letter that I think Lizzie wrote to Emma asking that question but Emma denied it? I wonder if Emma was the guilty one and tried to cover her tracks… by lying to the court?
@johnmcquilkin
Ай бұрын
I wish they would have shared what the maid's testimony was. There were several hours between the two murders so I find it hard to believe the maid was not aware. Perhaps one or two of the jurors were paid to offer up a not guilty verdict. ☮️👍☮️
@SmokinZa
Ай бұрын
This is like my 4th video I’ve watched today from this channel it’s so addictive!
@juliayoung1639
Жыл бұрын
Iźie was repeatedly and brutally molested by her father for years, and the town and jury knew this. That's why Lizzie was acquitted.
@Cinnamon1901
Жыл бұрын
How do you know this?
@KellyDFlynn
Жыл бұрын
First I’ve heard of this
@lmc2375
3 ай бұрын
I would want to know if their original house was haunted. Samantha from Bewitched was their 6th cousin, once removed. What's a bit crazy is that she once portrayed LB without ever knowing, she was a cousin. That was spooky to me.
@mariamaria2751
Жыл бұрын
There were transcripts from the trial ..did they present the case to the new jury in the words verbatim ? To see if they would come to the same verdict or different from the same words via the transcripts?
@Broken_No_More
4 ай бұрын
Her eyes are so creepy in the pictures.😮
@Fto58
Жыл бұрын
Great timing I’m about to hop on the road needed something to watch 🚚
@Kat.Evangeline
Жыл бұрын
What do they mean 'People waited for hours online' ?
@michealsizemore1
10 ай бұрын
I just asked my son who is 24 if he ever heard of Lizzy Borden and he had no idea who she was.
@yararotogather3772
Жыл бұрын
My favorite program every day i check if anew episoed is load or not so im happy now
@LaPOLEA
Жыл бұрын
What I'm confused about is, why wast there any blood splatters or drips or stains on other places in each room, in those times most rooms had wall paper which you can see in these photos and lots of other material especially round windows, and alot of pitchers on the walls, I would of thought it would of been very difficult to clean off blood especially alot of it off wall paper without showing any signs if rubbing with what they had to clean with in those days And also would she have the strength to hack two people's sculls in, especially with that sort of weapon, I would of thought it would be very difficult Evan for a man to do it , to keep pulling that out several times . And how did she have the time to clean it all up before the maide came back in, it would of taken a long time.
@morganstarchild5359
Жыл бұрын
Right
@ThanaBrunges-mx7ji
6 ай бұрын
It was possible they were b poisoned first then bludgeoned less blood that way 😅
@yvonnecooper5004
2 ай бұрын
Im baffled that evidence was cleaned so well during this time. Also how much physical strength would this take for a woman?
@nealwhaley63
8 күн бұрын
If you’re drawing on years of resentment and anger, your adrenaline will kick in. You don’t attack a person dozens of times without being seriously ticked off.
@Ms.Nobody13
Жыл бұрын
I never thought she did it. The Uncle claimed he was visiting family but was the family members he was supposed to be visiting interviewed? He knew the house, he had been there and could have easily gotten back in or never left until after the murders.
@kleeamd8274
Жыл бұрын
The police verified the uncle's alibi. You're barking up the wrong tree
@Dark_WolFeather
7 ай бұрын
I still stand behind Lizzie Borden. Ive always been intrigued by this case and it's on my bucket list to sleep at the House. I Can't wait 🪣📃
@reichmuth100
Жыл бұрын
This was the Best 48 Hours ever done.
@thehipmusicologist
Жыл бұрын
It’s interesting herring the story as a mock trail. Whole new perspective 🤯
@skmerwitz4758
Жыл бұрын
I always thought she killed them. There was rumors that he molested Lizzy when she was young. Why at there age they hadn't married. Having two old maids. Only way she could of did is if she took all her clothes off. Then rinse her self off. I think the reason the sister left was she told her sister that she killed them.
@molliwilson5639
Жыл бұрын
All of my kids know who Lizzie Borden is! I have young patients 12 years old) who know who she is!
@samanthab1923
Жыл бұрын
You’d be surprised the ignorance of folks.
@Bookworm-ye9qi
7 ай бұрын
This episode is loaded with hearsay. They seem to be going by what the press reported instead of what the evidence showed. Also, it's a logical fallacy to say " i don't know who else could have done it so that means Lizzie did".
@TheSonicJnr
Жыл бұрын
Take Note she wasn't even happy with the way living conditions were going including anger building about it
@queen_savanah1620
Жыл бұрын
for all the years i been growing up i been watching lizzie movies and they always say she did it... honestly i dont think she did it
@cassielong6617
Жыл бұрын
I think she may have done it Lizzie got arrested afterwards. And while Lizzie was in jail Lizzie wrote her sister Emma asking her if Emma has given her away to which Emma replied no she hasn’t, when Emma was in court with Lizzie she lied about having the conversation with Lizzie when it’s proven on paper that they had the convo Emma wasn’t honest about it and I think she was covering up a secret concerning her sister!
@MichelleAlexandria-EM
Жыл бұрын
Anytime a prospective juror claims not to have heard of a highly publicized case are either lying or out of touch, either way they shouldn’t be on a jury - real or otherwise.
@gtron7692
10 ай бұрын
I'm curious if Lizzy's dad had any disgruntled business associates. Perhaps there's no sign of break in because the dad knew the person and let them in. Just because nobody saw anything from outside doesn't mean squat. Even in modern times with video cameras everywhere, crime events may not be witnessed or recorded. Also, witnesses may have been fearful to come forward.
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