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@sytherwusky
2 жыл бұрын
would you do a video on bayonetta??
@vincentspaans671
2 жыл бұрын
This is a great video. this game seems like a lot of fun. If you like this game i think you love metal gear rising. it also has an interesting development cycle.
@Shy_SlowGuy
2 жыл бұрын
I learned a lot from this video
@crimsunomad
2 жыл бұрын
can someone tell who's the character around 17:12 in the video
@WDWPG
2 жыл бұрын
Anyone knows the title of the game @2:25 i remember playing when i was younger but forgot the name
@regularshowman3208
2 жыл бұрын
I think the way to approach sexualizing characters in games is to have it work in harmony with the character being sexualized. Bayonetta is probably one of the most overtly sexualized female characters in video games, and nobody has a problem with it because she knows it and she absolutely loves it. She's in control of her own hypersexuality the entire time, and there's never a point where that's taken away from her, certainly not for the purpose of titillation.
@milliondoller06
2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, games like lollipop chainsaw, duke nukem, or dead or alive like they are games for mere fun making fun of a genre or just having pure fun to it.
@beatyoubeachyt8303
2 жыл бұрын
yep look up gal gun that's the definition of sexual
@jdellabeat6245
2 жыл бұрын
I think Duke Nukem's portrayal of male sexuality is kind off hit-or-miss to me. Like, I never grew up with the character and only reference I have is Duke Nukem Forever's depiction. But, Duke's sex appeal is not entirely inherent to his own actions, like you get NPCs (primarily women, at least in my playthrough of the game) in the games commentating on his presumed sex appeal and masculinity, but you never see or hear of it. Although, my argument is only applicable 'cause Duke Nukem is limited to first person, while Bayonetta gets to flaunt and user her sexuality as a weapon and expression in third person. It also to note that the supporting characters around Bayo don't comment her sexual expression as a way to try to get it on w/ her. Even with Luka, he's attracted to Bayo, but his fruitless attitude and his charm are rooted in cute romanticism and they both have a good rapport w/ each other. Like, if Duke were to get a Bayonetta treatment, that'll be interesting. Have him flex his muscles or do bodybuilder-esque poses as a taunt while he holds his guns in creative ways. And don't shy away from it homoerotic, embrace it
@nobodyknowsforsure
2 жыл бұрын
@@jdellabeat6245 a straight guy won't like homoerotic, in short you'd be pandering to a smaller audience while removing a larger one. Usually when you keep it straight, people of the other persuasion are still interested anyway. So it makes more sense business wise to keep him straight.
@jdellabeat6245
2 жыл бұрын
@@nobodyknowsforsure I'm not suggesting you change his sexuality at all lol. Like, subtext. Make the character embrace his sexuality in a campy homoerotic-esque portrayal. The reason why Bayonetta is a successful icon is because the game doesn't shy away from her burlesque performance. The reason why it works because the in-universe fiction doesn't bend over backwards to excuse itself for being sexual in an honest and campy way. Sex is camp. I don't know what to tell you.
@tashreeqdollie
2 жыл бұрын
What's crazy is that Yasuda tweeted out yesterday that Lollipop Chainsaw "is back." Hopefully this means we're getting a remaster on all platforms
@snipes503
2 жыл бұрын
I also took it that way as well as hopefully getting a second game. Hopefully with the same art style and a new cheerleader or multiple ones to play with some unique abilities between them. With the tech out there now I have no doubt this would be a banger of a game release.
@CarbonSolo1
2 жыл бұрын
I'd be happy if they would just make it backwards compatible on Xbox One.
@zatchbell9764
2 жыл бұрын
STEAM RELEASE PLEEEASE
@missfortune8553
2 жыл бұрын
I hope so! I always wanted to play the game but was too ashamed to ask my mum, I knew what she’d say anyway lol. I’m an adult now with adult money dammit! Just don’t have a 360 anymore unfortunately.
@benjaminwilliam6643
2 жыл бұрын
Wait really???? Holy shit
@facepalmvideos1
2 жыл бұрын
Lolipop Chainsaw is just charming as all hell. Chemistry between Juliett and Nick is just pitch perfect, this zombie killing game somehow legit has one of the most memorable and sweet romances in gaming history. Last time I played it was around 6 years ago and I still remember so much of their banter that it's ridiculous.
@zzodysseuszz
2 жыл бұрын
I love games with so much personality and I especially like it when a game “doesn’t like block buttons” bc it becomes so quick. I’m not usually a patient person in games so letting me quickly jump around is so fun
@Anijah2001
2 жыл бұрын
Lollipop chainsaw is definitely a severely underrated game. I hope it gets either a remake or a sequel sometime soon
@ineedsleep9462
2 жыл бұрын
I would like that too but not with today's writers
@Texelion3Dprints
2 жыл бұрын
I never played it so a remake or remaster would be nice.
@jackjcv9608
2 жыл бұрын
One of the dev confirmed its comming back, just dunno if a remaster, remake, or a sequel
@Anijah2001
2 жыл бұрын
@@jackjcv9608 Well if that happens to be true that will be good because more people would get to play the game
@ineedsleep9462
2 жыл бұрын
@@Anijah2001 i just saw a tweet today about it but there wasn't anymore info
@OSW
2 жыл бұрын
This is the strongest pitch to support this game and Suda & the lads. Slick visuals, learned a lot, and I appreciate how u handled the topic sexualization vs sexism. Great vid
@Supernaturality
2 жыл бұрын
OH ME MEOW it's unexpected OSW Review!
@thelikeordislikebutton3253
2 жыл бұрын
But the question is, "what bar is Juliet Starling?"
@darryllee1808
2 жыл бұрын
*A wild OSW appears*
@RaidenKaiser
2 жыл бұрын
Just pray it's not another f2p p2w dumpsterfire like let it die.
@hexagonalsheep2142
Жыл бұрын
Honestly, I disagree. I think this whole "nuance" behind sexualization is just people trying to justify their kinks as some sort of high minded intellectual rethoric. People like attractive people, if it works into the character great if its just window dressing then great too. Honestly people are too overcritical over this sort of stuff. I understand not liking it but one shouldnt force others to have the same opinions as one has.
@queenxdva
2 жыл бұрын
It’s funny you said you hope Juliet’s return is in their future plans. Bc literally today, one of the devs tweeted that lollipop chainsaw is coming back and we should keep an eye out for it😁 our prayers have finally been answered
@archersterling6726
2 жыл бұрын
What?? Really??
@ChillJunky
2 жыл бұрын
@@archersterling6726 here’s the link to the tweet: twitter.com/yasudad5/status/1536826749623095296?s=21&t=4RHi_jau0u5dOAAcUCzqiw
@MLASELU
2 жыл бұрын
If it is a mobile game I am burning the world down.
@jonathansandusky7446
2 жыл бұрын
@@archersterling6726 Was it inevitable really. Schlocky stuff is immune to social environment, even if some rando complains, at the heart of it everyone enjoys a campy fun.
@therealandlegitsoapybubble
2 жыл бұрын
If it is coming back, should I pick it up?
@marissafranklin3281
2 жыл бұрын
I loved the game when it came out. I idolized Juliet lmao. I just thought she was so cute and sweet. Idk how to explain it but I feel like her character was really well made. She seems like the type of person I’d be friends with irl, she’s just likable.
@erica1529
2 жыл бұрын
Yes! When I first played this game I was obsessed. After playing I never could leave the house without a lollipop
@justapassingbycommenterrem5642
2 жыл бұрын
Harley Quinn lookin mighty different today
@lz8563
2 жыл бұрын
Agree lol I was cheerleading at the time - collegiate level - and started showing up to practice w pigtails and hoping there'd be a zombie apocalypse hah..
@marissafranklin3281
2 жыл бұрын
@@lz8563 That’s so awesome! Haha
@voidnoidoid
2 жыл бұрын
Yeah! Little kid me was left unsupervised on the internet and I saw Juliet for the first time, I wanted to be strong and cute like her haha
@shaythemoonchild431
2 жыл бұрын
I remember seeing this game when I was around 10-11 at a GameStop and I begged my mom to buy it for me. She said no because she figured I would be scared from it. What she didn’t know is that a friend of mine had the game and instead of being scared from it, I was laughing the entire time. This game was so completely unconventional and shocking. I still remember my fav boss being the hippie zombie.
@dalvinduchesne2325
2 жыл бұрын
I'm telling her
@Yamismol
2 жыл бұрын
Better then me being 10-11 asking my dad if I can be her for Halloween then pointing and the poster at GameStop lmao
@lennethomega6731
2 жыл бұрын
The creators of this game and Nier should team up and create a new series of games together.
@0uttaS1TE
2 жыл бұрын
Suda 51 and Yoko Taro would be a dream team. Throw in Kojima and it'd be unbeatable
@elChirrinChirriondelDiablo
2 жыл бұрын
Another amazing game that I love and hope more people experience.
@igorz4582
2 жыл бұрын
Reddit comment
@teaz3139
2 жыл бұрын
@@0uttaS1TE I personally don't want Kojima anywhere near Yoko Taro's masterpieces. Death Stranding was bad.
@0uttaS1TE
2 жыл бұрын
@@teaz3139 Whatever you say, man.
@talkaboutnowt6644
2 жыл бұрын
I feel like this era of gaming is an absolute goldmine. Devs took more risks and did silly shit. Whereas I'd say from 2017 onwards that largely dried up. Sure there's exceptions like DMC5 etc but most games feel very samey in comparison now.
@flyingsky1559
2 жыл бұрын
Ever since Skyrim
@lune-3214
2 жыл бұрын
Especially Playstation. Sure there are the exceptions like you say (Spider-man is one I can think of), but all of the flagship PS games from recent memory suffer from Last of Us syndrome.
@DerNomade1871
2 жыл бұрын
Plus people 10 years ago weren't a bunch of easily offended cucks
@aaronbennett4767
2 жыл бұрын
This is why we should look to the Indie market as quality has been consistent across the years.
@gamerito100
2 жыл бұрын
@@aaronbennett4767 Yep, somehow Black Souls II, an indie japanese Dark Souls-inspired game with h-content has had a way more interesting setting than most Triple A games I have seen in the last years xD
@johnnythedeceasedrat1835
2 жыл бұрын
Let’s just face it, she’s an icon, she’s a legend, and she is the moment
@luluewhite
2 жыл бұрын
Lollipop Chainsaw came out when I was a twelve year old girl and it was my FAVORITE game. I have never been a gamer, especially not of hack-and-slash games, but I played this game for HOURS. I'm so glad that this video was recommended to me because it made me remember how much I adored this game (and Juliet😳). As a woman who's grown up as a raging feminist, I hated games that left its female characters as nothing more than sexual objects and I'm sure my mom was perplexed why I was so obsessed with this game but I think you hit the nail on the head when you pointed out that Juliet is sexy and confident, but it doesn't take away from her personality, individuality, and ability to kick ass! She feels like a fully-fleshed out character because she's dripping with personality. I loved making Barbies face the horrors of war and be badasses and Juliet was an extension of that desire to see the pretty blonde girl be a competent and well-rounded individual rather than just some dumb bimbo. And it didn't hurt that she was nice to look at too.
@TheBlackAntagonist
2 жыл бұрын
Your characters personalities should always be first. I almost never think about the characters I write without thinking of who they are, rather than their "identity."
@ramenbomberdeluxe4958
2 жыл бұрын
@@TheBlackAntagonist Well, representation, especially of marginalized groups, does matter, and its good that many of these complex great characters happen to be of these groups for more variety, representation, and general good vibes and inspiration for said groups. That being said, I also agree, writing, personality, etc comes first, the identity later. Or rather, the identity, if it is first, must be paired with good writing instead of being the only thing about them that the story talks about.
@TheBlackAntagonist
2 жыл бұрын
@@ramenbomberdeluxe4958 I see your point, though I disagree slightly. There were shows all throughout my life with characters "like me" as in black. Some more useless than others but that's besides. For me, I related more to the characters who struggled like me but succeeded regardless. Hannah from the movie Wolf Children struggled to raise her kids in a world that would be afraid of them at best and hunt them at worst after losing the love of her life and her childrens' father to a cruel twist of fate. She wasn't black or male. Hell, I don't even have kids, but I want to and I related to the idea of protecting those you love and teaching them to navigate a cruel but sometimes beautiful world. The idea of the universal struggles is what I'm talking about.
@astasui
Жыл бұрын
Yawn
@luluewhite
Жыл бұрын
@@astasui hmm?
@THEcowboy367
2 жыл бұрын
Oh gosh as a tween I was *Obsessed* with this game, I didn't understand english or japanese but I would watch gameplay of it on youtube with my dads help. Ever since then I've been wondering what game it was until I stumbled on this video!
@gooboid
2 жыл бұрын
This game is getting so expensive now. Glad I grabbed a copy when it was only £20.
@DXFromYT
2 жыл бұрын
I own like three different copies of this game and the most expensive was around 70 bucks for the Japanese Premium Edition. I find it's somewhat cheaper on 360 than PS3.
@MrTheil
2 жыл бұрын
@@DXFromYT Is it possible to emulate this on RPCS3? I've been thinking about giving this game another go without having to buy such an expensive copy.
@DXFromYT
2 жыл бұрын
Yes, that's what I did for my gameplay
@MrTheil
2 жыл бұрын
@@DXFromYT Oh sick!
@muizzsiddique
2 жыл бұрын
@@MrTheil At very good speeds too.
@catnip4636
2 жыл бұрын
Bayonetta and Lollipop Chainsaw are female power fantasies. I adore them and I wish there were more games like this, so unapologetically feminine they warm my heart
@olivercharles2930
10 ай бұрын
Are they tho?
@minecraftMLGpoop7
2 жыл бұрын
“Men can appear however designers want them in games, and no one bats an eye… but when a cheerleader shows cleavage, everyone loses their minds” -dx -joker -Michael Scott
@the_letter_5579
Жыл бұрын
We truly live in a society 😔
@SuperOtakuKyo
2 жыл бұрын
Very nuanced arguments and well said statements. I love this game, but it is a hassle to pull out my old consoles. I really hope we see a remaster one day to modern consoles and PC, but I fear we will see people confuse sexualization and sexism as you stated and it may never happen or may be compromised because of it.
@muizzsiddique
2 жыл бұрын
If you have a reasonably performant gaming PC you can definitely emulate it. That's how I beat it the first time.
@legend8202
2 жыл бұрын
@@muizzsiddique Currently planning on playing it on RPCS3. I know it runs pretty much perfectly on 2540 x 1440 with my PC's hardware! Mid-range PCs or even budget gaming PCs should be able to run it well at FHD or QHD. Can't confirm though.
@muizzsiddique
2 жыл бұрын
@@legend8202 I played it 1080p on a laptop GTX 1050Ti and Core i5-8250U(?).
@TheCrimsonIdol987
Жыл бұрын
Being remastered right now, to be released in 2024, no doubt we'll all have a grand old time enjoying this game again.
@summusicnerd8788
2 жыл бұрын
I think another reason a re-release might be hard is the music licensing. There were 16 licensed tracks used throughout the game's soundtrack, and while they could easily re-new the copyright on the songs, some companies aren't willing to to that, ex. Rockstar with the GTA trilogy.
@Triplof1987
2 жыл бұрын
This guy just manifested the remake holy shit
@IAMNOTRANA
2 жыл бұрын
Man..that is some coincidence? Video uploaded on 13 june and on 15 june Yasuda on twitter announced lolipop chainsaw is coming back. DX is literal prophet.
@imafilthycasual9978
2 жыл бұрын
My roommate has ADHD and Autism, but this is still the only video game she’s ever beaten. It was so engaging that when it was over. She was just surprised. It didn’t feel bleed out, or slow. It was sooo complete and lovely.
@kalinda619
2 жыл бұрын
This was a surprisingly thought-provoking video. I never really thought about how traditionalist puritan views still permeate through modern feminism. Ironic in a sense.
@justiny2215
2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, you could see it the most in horizon forbidden west and last of us. ( interesting that it's from western games ) it's the side of the same coin. But making the character so that it "represents " woman realistically is ironic. If I model my character looking like Adriana Lima, then it's not unrealistic! At the same time if I make a videogame where all the girls have huge kno knockers I am going to question the motives. But at the same time in my friend group of the five girls there are 4 have large chest. I guess in this day and age it doesn't hurt adding girls with big and small. At the same time games are a reflection of the intent of the creators, so I they make a game where all the girls are flat chested who am I to judge?
@coffee8412
2 жыл бұрын
@@jehd4313 this ^^^🛐
@jasminelav.332
2 жыл бұрын
Sex and sexuality have been used to harm and control women for so long, I guess it's become a trigger spot for a lot of feminists. Some see this and want to reclaim "the right to be sexy", while others are still scared that it's a slippery slope back to The Bad Times.
@lilboxon60fps66
2 жыл бұрын
I recently got into Grasshopper Manufacture’s games after being introduced through The Silver Case and being fascinated by Suda51’s genius. I will definitely try this game out someday.
@IBigDickI
2 жыл бұрын
You should, it's a blast!
@Yoshikage8008
2 жыл бұрын
I recommend you play "Liberation Maiden" then. That's a Nintendo 3D S exclusive for the eshop
@crownedoll
2 жыл бұрын
She has such an iconic design too, this game feels like it was designed by people who were having fun and enjoyed what they were doing.
@medbii
2 жыл бұрын
Tbh Lollipop Chainsaw and Bayonetta influenced my childhood so much, I wanted to grow up to be as badass as both of them
@ma.2089
2 жыл бұрын
18:09 kinda disagree there. I barely see male characters with nearly as much skin as they do for female characters. I hope we get more skin in regards to that so men can be “sexually attractive” since you see a LOT of male and female player characters with VAST differences in appearance (similarly we need more male clothing options and I hope we get more diversity in women since there’s a major focus in making them sexually attractive and men don’t have to be). I also will point out that the girl with the orange hair (name escapes me) was very vilified online cuz they looked “masculine” and didn’t smile as much. The remake of that FF game got attacked cuz Tifa’s boobs were more naturally proportioned. It’s still not accepted for women to not look a specific way.
@sexyceo3567
2 жыл бұрын
Hard agree, it's not really equal if it's only girls showing off skin
@lonelywolf5659
2 жыл бұрын
Tekken, grand blue fantasy vs you one of the buff men super stripes him down to his underwear, xenoblade chronicles 1 one of the male Literally has a skill the less he wears the better he dodges its Optional but no one talks about it. Street fighter Look up Gill in his brother on 3 and 5 I guess They literally fight in a tunic and that is E sports friendly somehow. And Capcom got mad And censor the girls in that game too Hypocrisy. And the newest trailer of street fighter 5 well the 1st one It's just close up of shirtless Ryu Absent all close ranged ranged sweating and everything. P4 dancing have kanji who Swimsuit is a speedo so you can have him dance with that. P3 dancing have akihiko in the samething a speedo dancing around. And p4 Have costumes of the guys fighting in nothing but towels. P5 Have all the guys cross dressing and Fox his skirt is so low that you can see his bulge. The only reason why I know that is because the comment section. Like it Think it's some kind of sick joke when you say that like come on this is obvious it's there but no one cares to look for it. Like I don't know are you lazy or do you need someone to show you And if you don't believe me well here you go You see how the reverse gender reacts. BT dubs those type of people when they find out tend to delete their stuff. Happened with kanji dancing in a speedo I guess the person found out that was leaking videos showing them be pevs and they delete it every one of them so you really can't find them or there comment. But here one I guess kzitem.infofn8DR1Ab0D0?feature=share go read the comments too and there more too show but I would be here all day. Maybe one day I would Put it as a video compilation for all you people while playing banjo kazooie Theme song.
@olivercharles2930
10 ай бұрын
I hard disagree with you. Male characters are pretty often shown with lots of skin, topless for example,
@NachiketaTJ
2 жыл бұрын
what do you know, a remake was announced today holy shit
@V_y-r_e
2 жыл бұрын
Fantastic job. You really captured the nuance of a game that people mistake as a simple comedy romp. I’d expect nothing less from you.
@adamcammack3534
2 жыл бұрын
As much as Suda51 had a difficult time with it I still adore Shadows of the damned, its still very Suda in alot of ways and I never saw its art direction as being similar to other titles at the time its unique like all of Grasshopper products, Goichi Suda should be very proud of Shadows its got more heart than alot of modern games, Lollipop chainsaw is the last real great time I had with a Grasshopper game as by killer is dead the studio took a big step back not realising a game every year which shows just how much the landscape of gaming has changed and suffered since.
@CodenameCMB
2 жыл бұрын
Damn I remember this game, so glad to hear someone else talk about it. It just makes me want to try and play Lolipop Chainsaw again.
@thespookymage6294
2 жыл бұрын
I love this game, its one of my favorites on the 7th gen consoles and maybe even all time. Its sorely underrated and is a total blast. Its got an amazing soundtrack, awesome aesthetic, and is tongue and cheek fun all the way through. I managed to get the premium edition of lollipop chainsaw at a small local game store for only ten bucks, and I totally don't mind owning two copies of this game.
@scarletpajama1021
2 жыл бұрын
As a woman, you perfectly articulated my issue with the modern sexualization of women in media. It's a problem that greatly bothers me as I love to dress very similarly to Juliet, and society shames me for it. So you saying something like this means a lot because it puts my feelings into words
@LT-jr3yb
2 жыл бұрын
I can’t believe it was 10 years ago, THATS CRAZY!! Also I love your take on sexualization vs sexism. When this game came out I was a preteen girl and I was watching all the trailers and gameplay. I was gushing over Juliet 😂 I wanted the game so bad, might I add I’m queer as hell. To young me, she was just a hot badass. Still think that today with my matured brain. Wow the amount of memories this video unlocked omg.
@Mousey4799
2 жыл бұрын
This was my fav game in middle school as a girl I wish we could get more female leads in games that aren’t taken so seriously and that are cute and sexy 💖
@moneyplsss
2 жыл бұрын
And now a remake was announced...
@eduardoalvarez7546
2 жыл бұрын
Ugh this game was the shit when it came out. It was a random game I got as a kid but loved because it was just nothing but pure craziness and fun, but was also enough to keep me engaged in its simple story. While I am a gay male, to go with the “sexualization” portion of this game, I like how Juliet is simply a bad bitch who can kill zombies while looking so good.
@Bunny2319b
2 жыл бұрын
I’m gay too and I absolutely loved it, so does my female friends lol I hate it when people think these types of games only exist to “please straight men”
@andreja9425
2 жыл бұрын
This was a pretty good video and while I very much agree broadly with the points you were making about sexualization and femininity in media, I think there’s another elephant in the room when it comes to this character specifically. Now forgive me as I haven’t played this game, so I’m unsure of the characters age myself, but I think sexualization gets trickier when a character is underage or uses underage aesthetics. Cheer and school uniforms are overwhelmingly associated with being a high school and so perhaps much of the controversy was over not just the sexualization broadly, but by playing into sexualizing things so closely associated with youth. I do think that sexualization of teens is really gross and is worthy of criticism even if I think sexualization broadly should be encouraged if done ethically. Even if this character is “of age” or whatever I don’t think that cheer or school uniforms are things that should be sexualized. You can definitely still have a sort of bubblegum popstar sexuality thing without delving into those (I love the chainsaw with hearts in it btw). I’m a trans non-binary person and lots of people in my circles love to embrace such an unabashed hyper-feminine camp aesthetic (music by SOPHIE for example) and I definitely find them compelling too although I occupy a more gothic/futuristic sexuality myself. I’d love to see more games exploring trans sexuality/characters too. Lots of nuance in this discussion of feminism, femininity, empowerment, sexism, and sexuality so feel free to reply and continue the conversation lol.
@diabolicaldebacle
2 жыл бұрын
Hit the nail on the head. Although I think your gender and sexuality have little to do with the subject and doesn't add anything to your argument.
@andreja9425
2 жыл бұрын
@@diabolicaldebacle I just thought the bubblegum femininity (or whatever you want to call it) displayed here reminded me of a lot of trans aesthetics and I wanted to voice support of that and to distinguish it from the juvenile shit cuz you don’t see it very often in protagonists and I think that part should be celebrated. It probably didn’t flow well with how I laid out my arguments and seemed kind of out of nowhere but I had intention with it even if it came across random. I hope that makes sense.
@andreja9425
2 жыл бұрын
@@diabolicaldebacle I also just generally wanted to voice support for more trans characters (even if sexualized well) because trans representation is super lacking and is very tricky as we’re often portrayed as purely disgusting or fetish bait, but I want to see the care of having positive sexual role models that many male and female characters have, applied to trans ones as well
@ultraguy14
2 жыл бұрын
or you're just overthinking it.
@bloodywanker49
2 жыл бұрын
Agreed, while I can get behind most of the arguments DX has, I can't ignore the fact that this character is (likely) underage, honestly, I'm a little surprised this wasn't the elephant in the room he was talking about since the sexualization of a teenage character was way more pressing to me than just a scantily clad female character.
@Arexion5293
2 жыл бұрын
Sexualization isn't innately positive or negative. It's just something some people might be interested in and some are not, while also affecting the overall tone of the work. It's an issue when it doesn't fit the tone, while being clearly part of the tone means it is a genuine part of the overall vision. People have different tastes, not everything is for every taste. This is a very simple topic, I don't get why some make such a big deal about it. There's media for those who enjoy it and media for those who don't. What a non-issue.
@shira_yone
2 жыл бұрын
I wouldn't mind if it doesn't fit the media's tone if it has a point like it's essential for the character, or the other way around where it fits the tone and it's all for fun.
@Arexion5293
2 жыл бұрын
@@shira_yone If it has a point it fits the tone. Then it means the tone itself includes topics that might seem out of place on the surface, but in actuality show that there's more nuance to it.
@aijsdijdni3401
2 жыл бұрын
It’s not as much of a non-issue as you would assume. Sexualized portrayals in media, while fictional, can bleed into people’s mentalities in every day life. Sexualization in fictional media is fine. Sexualization in real life of real people non-consented is not fine. In a black and white world, everyone would be able to accept those two things and know when it’s ok and when it’s not. The problem starts when people who consume fictional sexual media begin to walk around in their day to day lives with the same mentality they have while consuming sexual fictional media. Checking random strangers out, which is non-consented and inherently wrong, sexism and sexist remarks when someone calls another out for those nonconsensual behaviors. A lot of these things stem from fictional media and certain individuals blurring the lines between fiction and reality. And yes, this is a unisex thing and while being seen more in men is still very much perpetuated by women as well. Not everyone who consumes this media turns out like that at all, but an overwhelming amount do.
@Arexion5293
2 жыл бұрын
@@aijsdijdni3401 This may sound rude, but all I can really say to that is duh. Issues tend to form when people struggle at differentiating fantasy from reality, which means it's an issue with the person itself and how they consume media, not the media itself. It's a responsibility that falls upon the person. This stands for all of fiction, all of media, it isn't exclusive to any topic.
@shira_yone
2 жыл бұрын
@@Arexion5293 agreed.
@gbreezey3412
2 жыл бұрын
It’s so weird how this game just randomly started gaining traction when I just started thinking about it a couple of months ago . I was literally just wondering what ever happened to this game .
@NathanChisholm041
2 жыл бұрын
She's a D cup! I'm glad we got that sorted out! lol
@Codduct
2 жыл бұрын
I thought it was rather obvious she's at least a D cup! LOL
@NathanChisholm041
2 жыл бұрын
@@Codduct I would of guessed a large C! lol
@ThisIsRusko
2 жыл бұрын
God i love this game. I love Juliet starling. I miss her. I miss characters like this. I Love her personality, her look. Her vibe. I am a gay man. I don't know i feel like gay man acknowledge these type of looks more. Anyway. WE NEED A REMAKE/REMASTER OF THIS.
@kindasomeviews
2 жыл бұрын
Even with this game, Suda is truly an interesting dev to say the least. -Stood up for sexualization in games. -Used sexualization as a marketing campaign that paid off. -Was told that the game wouldnt sell well cuz female lead but did this anyway (To that guy, Baeyo. nuff said) -Came up with this idea on the toilet. -Hates the guard button. -Still made a masterpiece despite it's problems.
@sighbatsu
2 жыл бұрын
What a great analysis of a game from my adolescence, the last half of the video really was thoughtful and well said! James Gunn ironically tweeted about the anniversary of the game recently so here's to hoping we get that ps5 port or PC port.... Hell I'll even take a remaster
@namelessanarchy
2 жыл бұрын
As if on cue, they announced they are making a remake.
@deadbydezigner
2 жыл бұрын
This game was unfortunately stolen from me. Recently bought it before it got at a much more expensive price. Worth it cause this is one of those games that may be extremely rare as a collectible
@OkamiWSDwarrior
2 жыл бұрын
I went to the opening event of this game, had the pleasure of meeting VAs (Tara Strong, Jimmy Urine etc) as well as directors. It was a really amazing event and super fun! Love this game still.
@davidaraujo206
2 жыл бұрын
Who’s here now that we know lollipop chainsaw is being remastered
@MrTheil
2 жыл бұрын
Ah yes, my first Grasshopper Manufacture game (without even realizing it at the time) along with the first No More Heroes.
@Stevin20687
2 жыл бұрын
I had contemplated getting this game for years (hell I've wanted it when I first heard of it, which was shortly after the release date). After seeing this video and the Remakes announcement, I finally went ahead and got it for the 360 ($37 usd rounded up to the nearest dollar, brand new). It arrived today. God Damn it. It is just as addictively fun as I thought/feared it was. Welp. Here's to yet another game I'm going to sink 100+ hours into! :)
@tobi8445
2 жыл бұрын
Snowflakes can't handle this game in 2022, hopefully it comes to steam since PC is more chilled and based with games like this....unlike Sony!
@BitterBase
2 жыл бұрын
I'm a huge fan of LC but I feel like you completely missed the point of WHY people had a problem with sexualizing Juliette. She was freshly 18 and she even had a her instructor/teacher was sexualizing her before then. It was kinda weird that attention was brought to it. It feels like you're missing the real problems people had and why it was controversial. Not to mention, constant voice lines she had did make her come off as a bimbo. This makes this video so much weaker because all the 'you hate women love being sexy' portion is irrelevant and ignores that game is blatant about how funny/weird/creepy the characters are and how Julliette is just this airhead chopping up zombies. I'm not saying some people didn't have this issue - there were a few minor voices. The main issue peolpe had was it was weird that it was a high schooler who literally just turned 18.
@DXFromYT
2 жыл бұрын
Complete horseshit. Literally just go read any of the articles regarding this game and sexism. I've not read a single one that ever brings up that she's 18. While I'm sure that was an issue for some, it absolutely wasn't the "main issue" people had with it. You're delusional if you think this game stops being controversial if Juliet is 25.
@brubio39
2 жыл бұрын
Who’s gonna tell him Lollipop Chainsaw is back??? :3
@brandonlrushman2870
2 жыл бұрын
I was 17 when I got this game! When it first came out!!!! 🌈 I absolutely loved it! I really related to the character. A hot blonde who ate way too many lollipops!!! 😂 I was literally thinking about this game like 2/3 weeks back! They should make a sequel! 👱🏼♀️🌈🧟♂️
@UnknownG2000
2 жыл бұрын
I’ve always loved those extra steps you take in order to make your content. Whether it is modeling the pendant of an obscure game for a thumbnail, or modding in and jury rigging a game you love to show off. It’s just great.
@Apache616
2 жыл бұрын
Just watched this video yesterday and this morning they just announced the remake to this game so i guess we do get to experience a modern interpretation after all.
@vampierknightlucky
2 жыл бұрын
BRO THEY'RE RELEASING A REMAKE FOR 2023!!! YOUR PRAYERS HAVE REACHED THEM WOOOOOOOOO!!!!!
@j.j.r98
2 жыл бұрын
i feel like they gonna butcher it though
@DXFromYT
2 жыл бұрын
@@j.j.r98 Based on what lmao
@j.j.r98
2 жыл бұрын
@@DXFromYT based on how the world is today vs back then. Basically for the reasons you said in your video along with the fact that the costumes will mostly be paid dlc. Hope I’m wrong
@Snowriander
2 жыл бұрын
There’s a difference between objectification and sexualization. It’s important to avoid objectification but there isn’t anything wrong with sexualization.
@olivercharles2930
10 ай бұрын
Hot take: Neither are a big deal. Objectification is ok, as long as it isn't too widespread and sexualization is okay.
@RoseyVamp
2 жыл бұрын
I’ve never heard of this game before but it looks awesome! I’ve always had a soft spot of badass female characters with blonde hair and a spunky personality. Probably cause I want to emulate them in myself 😂
@landismithCOJ
2 жыл бұрын
A DX update is always a great thing. This game was a guilty pleasure of mine way back when.
@GizmoHibiki
2 жыл бұрын
Considering that Lolipop Chainsaw is partly owned by WB, I'm surprised we haven't even gotten a camero or a refference to Juliet Starling or anything else from the main game in stuff like Mortal Kombat or Injustice. Like seriously, no Juliet Starling costume or even a San Romero school stage? We can only hope she appears in Multiversus.
@destineefine4567
2 жыл бұрын
Omg but they’re remastering the game!!!!!! You were just a little early in thinking it’s going to be Lost to time. I also thought so until today. It’s coming out 2023!!!!!!!!
@destineefine4567
2 жыл бұрын
And also as a woman I love Juliet for being a badass and wish to cosplay as her. Women should choose what they want with they bodies. Showing it off is their right!
@photon6419
2 жыл бұрын
I come from the future to tell you we are getting a remake
@casedem
2 жыл бұрын
when i got my hands on this game i went nuts. so good and the most unique hack-n-slash combat i've ever played
@thatoneintrovert9618
2 жыл бұрын
Man I remember this game when I was younger (around 10 or so). Saw the whole gameplay on KZitem back in the day since I couldn't play it. Good times, good times... Then when I was finally allowed to play these kinds of games at 11-12 I never picked the game unfortunately since I forgot about it for a while. I really need to pick this up again and play it again. Thank you for this video.
@RaikouRosario
2 жыл бұрын
Grasshopper bought the rights from Kadokawa and is teaming up with WB again for the remake We fucking won 🙌
@misberave
9 күн бұрын
Its funny as hell seeing this video just now coming from the remaster. What an amazing essay! Especially the part about the sexualised characters hits the nail right on the head! Its so sad that its still so stigmatised, the world should just relax
@aurahoneydew9607
2 жыл бұрын
Man I wish games still were made with this level of pervy enthusiasm.
@EhrisaiaOShannon
2 жыл бұрын
I fucking LOVE this game!! Omg!! So underrated.
@paolaanimator
2 жыл бұрын
The cheerleader and the game Lollipop Chainsaw looks like so much fun, I love how wild the game looks, and the game looks visually amazing. I wish there are more colorful and fun looking games similar to Lollipop Chainsaw, she kind of reminds me of Harley Quinn. Great video! Love the fact the game is created in a toilet break lol.
@paulszki
2 жыл бұрын
I'm super on board with sexy characters in a setting where suitable to the story. I'm also annoyed when every single woman in a game is just hot and every other type of woman doesn't seem to exist, while all the male characters are a diverse mix of characters. Also, sometimes it just takes me out of the game or is just a bit cringe. Xenoblade Chronicles 2 comes to mind. Yes, it's a fantasy setting but it's kinda obvious that the japanese writers/Artists/developers didn't think of "representation" or were trying to make any sort of point (or non-point, like Lolipo Chainsaw). No, they gave the female protagonist gigantic tiddies so the game would sell better and/or because the developers were thirsty. They didn't set the tiddy-slider in the character editior to 100% because they thought "this fits the characters and the world" they just thought "this will make great jerk-off material and increase sales". And it's transparently manipulative and cynical. Please don't make random characters in your game insanely hot or oversexualized without considering the game's context. My point is this: I'm playing games to have an engaging experience in terms of story, gameplay, characters, world building. If there's a reason for nudity/cleavage/sexualization, I'm all for it (e.g. Mass Effect). I don't mind it in other media either (e.g. Game of Thrones). I do mind it, when it's patently clear that it's ONLY there to sell the game or because the creators of the game were just a bunch of horny dudes from Japan. Context is everything and sometimes stuff just isn't appropriate. Like when I'm watching porn, I don't want the actors to suddenly interrupt the sex scene with an unrelated Mortal Kombat finisher. Seriously kills my boner. I wanted to jerk off, not witness a gory CGI execution. Doesn't mean, that I don't like Mortal Kombat, does it? In the same way, when I'm playing a video game, I want to immerse myself in it's world instead of being distracted by hyper fuckable chicks at every corner.
@demonoid7469
2 жыл бұрын
Nothing beats when you control a Nick Zombie...and the cheer..."It's alright , it's ok , my man Nick will F your A!" That and when Spin you right Round starts playing as you run over zombies with the thresher doing donuts...
@PeachSSGSS
2 жыл бұрын
The only reason I like games like Lollipop Chainsaw and Bayonetta is because of how well portrayed their protagonists are. I feel like a free spirit when I see Juliet slash Zombies with her Cheerleader type movements. All the rainbows and girly feel in the game are just amazing and with some of the outfits in the game make me wish I could dress like that and make he feel like a bad bitch when I go out. Bayonetta as well. They both incorporate their personalities into their fighting so much that I can’t help but smile.
@sewerzombie2
2 жыл бұрын
Watched this like 4 days ago and the game just got announced for a remake
@jackyates2376
2 жыл бұрын
who’s here after the remake announcement
@SantiagoChamo
2 жыл бұрын
This video just popped in my recomendations and after watching it I enter to twitter to learn that a remake is on the schedule. Good timing.
@SolCresta3405
2 жыл бұрын
So, we have a sequel in development, maybe? Wonder what will be next for Juliet and Nick after saving the world from zombies?
@asmephestoh
2 жыл бұрын
in 2012 this was the main reason my mother didn't let us have this game. in 2022 it wouldn't matter that much. You have to take notice tho that you are a man telling women at a time where their rights of bodily autonomy a being taken away from them that they don't matter. They will take the little battles that can be won. Just hope for a remake and get on with your day. Bayonetta is like lolipop chainsaw in the very busty and sexualized woman business. it would 100% succeed in this market tbh. you just seem to be airing out your own insecurities about games like this and blaming well rounded thinkers for brining up the wrongs in some games.
@asmephestoh
2 жыл бұрын
none the less i subscribed.
@Kdawg4859
2 жыл бұрын
I was just thinking about this game a couple of days ago! This should've came backwards compatible forreal!
@Bludgeoned2DEATH2
2 жыл бұрын
You have perfect timing since the remake was announced shortly after this video :)
@kakuzuswife1267
2 жыл бұрын
As a 23 year old female I grew up Idolizing this game ( and call of duty and postal but its not about them, this about her right now). I was confused when (mostly) women who ethier didn't play video games, this game , or only played gacha games complained on the looks on Julliet. Media is a way to step away from real-life and have fun. Let's be honest if she was a flat-chested 44-year-old with bad teeth and choppy black hair would you honestly be entranced? No, the game may be good but if the protag doesn't catch your attention then you've already shot yourself in the foot. Sex sales in media and that's fine. Look at Donte and Vergil from DMC. There is no reason from them to look that good. And lets not forget the foul-moth bad attitude having Travis touchdown. No one complained about him looking good or sounding foul (besides parents who were actually against videogame altogether). So lets celebrate the fact we got a hot girl who was no damsel and knew how to swing....her chainsaw and hips :) unlike Ashely from resident evil
@TheHuupertti
2 жыл бұрын
I do understand your point, the sexualization and sexism point is valid. No argument there. Thing is though that it is unfortunate that sexualization unfortunately has been used too often as a punching down tool and I do prefer seeing characters like Julia and Bayonetta who are strong and proud of what they look like and choose to show it off. However, as a male who is gay, I am exhausted of seeing the female form and especially used as a punching down tool and for guys to get their power fantasies fed. It is exhausting and putting off, there is extreme fatigue in me to even wanting to get a game and be forced to see women in skimpy outfits. I know this is a thing that is because I am part of the minority, but it sucks to have a hobby be exhausting where I need to think twice if I want to get an interesting game. There is nothing that has anything catering to minority and if there is a game like this, there rarely is "put on a shirt" option or mod.
@ixthizzar
2 жыл бұрын
Hey did you hear the news? I'm choosing to believe the remake is thanks to your video
@TheGreyShaman
2 жыл бұрын
Loved the history lesson for shadows of the damned, game looks super interesting and would have been better if the devs had been able to work with the spirit of the game in a more professional matter, but EA chose the spirit of greed over respecting the spirit of the game in question.
@brianv3ntura
2 жыл бұрын
I did play the game loooong ago and I still do have a Japanese copy on ps3 that does have English translations, but now when I think abt it...it is portraying an overly sexualized high school girl.
@thesupermayoreo
2 жыл бұрын
Other than Bayonetta we will never get games like this ever again.
@RaidenKaiser
2 жыл бұрын
Oh yes another backstory involving the bloodied hands of ea at the start.....why am I not surprised? I swear they always find someway to be involved.
@Polychi1998
2 жыл бұрын
REMAKE CONFIRMED
@RespiteofChampions
2 жыл бұрын
BULLLLLLLLLSHIT Lollipop Chainsaw did NOT come out TEN years ago. God I am old.
@ThatGuy_33
2 жыл бұрын
4:52 Imagine how funny it would’ve been if they included a optional male character without changing any of the writing just to piss some people off
@DanteHellDrive
2 жыл бұрын
Good points made. It's the society to be blamed for making our mentality towards sexualizing characters, a weird mess
@lichstein7972
2 жыл бұрын
I loved this game when I first played it a year or two after it came out, I believe I heard Tara Strong mention it on a Kevin Smith Podcast. It was so damn fun. I hope this video gets enough traction, because a well-made sequel to this game would be just awesome.
@rgg1009
2 жыл бұрын
I mean, it would be great if you were right. But like, the game also implies she is pretty naive and she dresses like that because of her master that, by the way, asked her to dress like that while she was a minor... Well, in the end he served as a body to Nick... the irony
@wildfiremicro6877
2 жыл бұрын
On the topic of short games, I recently played the Ty the tasmanian tiger remaster and it was about 10 hours. It ultimately left me satisfied and it didn't need 50 hours. I enjoy shorter games because as I grow older my time shrinks as well. Great video btw DX!
@MasterMafiaDK
2 жыл бұрын
Ubisoft has ruined their games and they have become drawn out shit and if they focused on one gender instead of just spiting in the eye of the male version and handing it to us as a possibility, it would be fine a female fits the seductive secretive stereotype of an assassin anyway! if you wright a character right it doesn't matter their gender just look at tomb raider and clair from res evil!
@Zakurablade
2 жыл бұрын
funny enough now we hear that lolipop chainsaw is coming back. although they haven't said if it's a remastered version or part 2 yet. personally I want a remastered version since I have no faith a part 2 could even be made with all the crazy SJW around today.
@notproductiveproductions3504
2 жыл бұрын
If it’s a sequel they need to make a SJW zombie miniboss so people can let out their frustration
@Zakurablade
2 жыл бұрын
@@notproductiveproductions3504 Lol haha I'm good with that. They can be Karen.
@ImCurrentlyNaked
2 жыл бұрын
The argument about sexiness and its difference from sexism needs to be said more. It shocks me that "slutwalks" were such a recent thing, that they still go on, but the same people who'd been marching in the street for such an event then turn around call characters such as Miss Lollipop Chainsaw as "too sexualised". Many Women like being sexy and presenting themselves as such Many Men, and women too for that matter, appreciate women doing this. If art reflects life, and video games are art, of course we're going to have sexy women characters in video games. There could definitely be an argument for going to far with it, or having too many sexy women characters, but it seems more reasonable to argue in the other direction at the moment.
@vivekkparashar
2 жыл бұрын
Mostly people on twitter and some crazies have a problem with that ,a lot of regular folks don't care
@shutendouji3241
2 жыл бұрын
I think the only thing for me is that Juliet is still, actively, a high school student during the events of LP. She’s literally just turned 18 that very day, so that’s where the murkiness of the sexualization is at for me. She was closer to being 17 (underage) and still has that high school mentality, so as a young woman that was just what made me feel kind of funny about it even though I adore Juliet and have ever since I pre-ordered the game when I was 12.
@vivekkparashar
2 жыл бұрын
@@shutendouji3241 see to me animation, pixels and video game characters don't matter Cause they are far from reality in any way and just a collection of pixel at the end of the day ... Game should be good , if heroines are sexy ? No problem at least scenery is great lol But i don't like the same in live action series or movies Like "cuties " from Netflix where to prove the point that the minørs were sexualised irl they sexualised minøers (actors) in the movie it self and it's very disgusting ... What's ironic is that the people on twitter/tik tok who are almost always up on arms about løli characters in Anime where the one defending Cuties And that's my whole point
@genericspectator3094
2 жыл бұрын
@@shutendouji3241 same
@genericspectator3094
2 жыл бұрын
@@vivekkparashar I agree with your point about live action but the whole "shes just a drawing/a 3d model lol" thing always felt kinda ingenuous to me. yeah sure fictional characters are fictional, but that doesn't change the fact that we still care about them and suspend our disbelief. like when a well written character dies, we still care about that even if we're just looking at drawings. so if I'm invested enough in a story, looking a up a highschooler's skirt at best breaks my immersion, and at worse makes me feel like a creep. yeah sure no actual highschoolers are harmed, but I'm still looking at a "barely legal" characters ass, not just a 3d model I found on sketchfab or something.
@stanislaviliev6305
2 жыл бұрын
Female lead games wouldn't sell The entire Tomb Raider franchise: Am I a joke to you?
@Heffy_Boi
2 жыл бұрын
Great video! I echo the very same sentiments on the matter of 7th gen (and really, all gens for that matter) preservation and the ever increasing importance that emulation brings. When I see a game running and looking this stunningly, it makes me so thankful for the hard work and dedication we see from those that bring us the means to give games like Lollipop Chainsaw a new lease on life and to help people continue to enjoy it for years to come.
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