If you could choose your piece of the Triforce, which one is it and why? (also which one would you choose for me lol)
@waldilks
Жыл бұрын
Tbh it would be courage because I don’t really want to have power as I’m not a great handler at it, wisdom, maybe, but I go to school so I’m fine, I’ll learn stuff anyway, in the long way, so not really. I need courage as I’m not that brave, and I want to be.
@amanda_inna_book
Жыл бұрын
Wisdom all the way, you would be courage
@jownatube
Жыл бұрын
Wisdom for you, very knowledgeable. I’ll have courage. I do a lot of stuff people aren’t going to
@jcg7609
Жыл бұрын
I would choose wisdom, and then I would realize that I should have chosen power
@UpsilonDreams16
Жыл бұрын
I’d love to have Courage, but I’d probably have Wisdom. I’d give you Courage because it takes a lot to be able to put yourself out in the world and be successful.
@caydengarvey657
Жыл бұрын
Calling Spirit Tracks the "Hero of Trains" is like calling Wind Waker Link the "Hero of Boats." I vote that we all refer to him as the "Hero of Spirits"
@candy_face7796
Жыл бұрын
well technically Majora's Mask is the masks of the Spirits, so you could call young Link the "Hero of Spirits" too
@nickroyal4425
Жыл бұрын
@Candy_Face77 true however his title is still hero of time
@nathanapodaca3456
Жыл бұрын
The Hero of Rails
@paulpires2434
Жыл бұрын
how about Hero of Tracks? Still fits with the title
@Diamond_Aura
Жыл бұрын
@@candy_face7796 Majora’s Mask Link as “Hero of Spirits”? That doesn’t make much sense, because it’s literally just the same Link as Ocarina, he’s the exact same Hero of Time. Yeah he’s on a different adventure but he doesn’t need/get a new title just because of that, the one in Link’s Awakening and Oracle games still has the same title. So “Hero of Spirits” works pretty good for Spirit Tracks imo. Especially since he’s on the Spirit Train, on the Spirit Tracks, with a spirit Zelda, using the Spirit Flute, trying to repair the Spirit Tower; you get the picture lol
@nightwalker174
Жыл бұрын
THE HERO OF....TRAINS
@MILOPETIT
Жыл бұрын
Read that as the hero of trans, thought this was about femboy link
@onegloba2425
Жыл бұрын
I LIKE TRAINS…
@xeta180
Жыл бұрын
NATE THE TRAAIN
@NJSimmo13
Жыл бұрын
@@MILOPETIT hero of… trans?
@Flair86_
Жыл бұрын
@@MILOPETIT FEMBOY LINK? WHERE!
@drewrobinson5562
Жыл бұрын
Ya know... I didn't think of it till now but... The time line split also fits the try force holders. Fallen timeline. Ganondorf wins. Young timeline. Link stops Ganondorf in time and his hero. Old time line. Zelda fixed the kingdom(since she spirited away link)
@donebynone30
Жыл бұрын
Zelda effed everything up by sending link back in time tho
@drewrobinson5562
Жыл бұрын
Hindsight ya. She fixed the kingdom after it's destruction. Obviously down the line her action caused a worst issue
@The13thKnight
Жыл бұрын
I think the reason Twinrova are alive in the fallen timeline is because Link went to fight Ganondorf as a kid, no seven year stasis, as soon as he unlocked the temple of time. Hence, no fight against Twinrova
@seankock7649
Жыл бұрын
Dont make things up
@erner_wisal
Жыл бұрын
@@seankock7649 theory
@MorganSaph
Жыл бұрын
@@erner_wisal Not really. There is no way for kid link to reach Twinrova. The most likely explanation is that Ganondorf simply resurrected them. He'd already resurrected and created monsters before, don't see why he wouldn't be able to ressurrect powerful ancient witches when he has the full Triforce.
@erner_wisal
Жыл бұрын
@@MorganSaph climb nearby cliff with chicken, sneak Pass, success
@michelleignatowski8393
Жыл бұрын
You know, one thing I noticed during the adult timeline of Zelda's section is that all of the Zeldas play a more proactive role in their respective plots because their iteration of their ancestor became a ninja during the apocalypse
@ssppeeaarr
8 ай бұрын
ya never liked the sheik hype... which peach would also get her not just a damsel in distress in her own game. super peach. showin she doesnt really need mario to save her at all. lol. but zelda of TP was goat. should have kept that design and personality. i miss that version...
@matthewscorner2990
Жыл бұрын
Ocarina of Time Zelda seems to be the living embodiment of "one often meets his destiny on the road he takes to avoid it".
@CryOfTheLyrebird
Жыл бұрын
The Zeldapus Complex
@AceWolf456
7 ай бұрын
I like to imagine Winds was blessed by the spirit of courage when he soloed the forsaken fortress just to rescue his sister. So while not having a blood relation, the triforce looked at him and went "what the hell is that kid doing? Oh damn, we should help him out."
@Thor-Orion
Жыл бұрын
7:18 no, Malon’s mom wrote Epona’s song and taught it to Malon. But I DO believe the hero of time ended up with her. Which makes me happy, because they were absolutely perfect for each other. I also think the Hero of Twilight’s father was a swordsman of some sort, like his great (or great great) grandfather and Rusl who takes Link under his wing (my theory is he was friends with Link’s father and they were in the guard or whatever together, which is why he looks after Link after his parents die)
@ElijahNMitchell
Жыл бұрын
Absolutely. Headcanon is that Link eventually became a knight, had a shipwreck where he dreams of her (though they moved Awakening in the list), came back and married her. There’s a stone in OoT that says she wants to marry a strong soldier or something like that. They then have a farm that gets passed down and boom, Hero of Twilight.
@ElijahNMitchell
Жыл бұрын
Link actually dreams of Malon twice now that I think of it: Link’s Awakening and Majora’s Mask
@akward4210
8 ай бұрын
@@ElijahNMitchell When was this? In Link's Awakening, Link mistakes Marin as Zelda, implying that Marin resembles her, and in Majora's Mask, Link is shown having memories of Zelda; Malon is never shown in the game.
@신-r2r
Жыл бұрын
If I remember how the triforce on the first game was originally supposed to be memory chips or something similar and link came from a different world, some people think that he is someone from our world who was transported to that world. But that original idea was scrapped, I think it was because it was hard to convey the idea of those chips instead of something more ideal like a triforce.
@damjammer410
Жыл бұрын
So my theory on Ganon. The triforce pieces all can transform the wielder into a beast imbued with the power of the respective piece when they're on the verge of death, or great stress. Ganon turns into a massive boar, one of the most dangerous and powerful animals. Courage transforms into a courageous beast like you said. In this case, a wolf. It's not known what wisdom would transform into. Perhaps an owl or something. But Kaepora Gaepora? Rauru had the whole triforce at the time did he not? What's not to say he'd utilize it to guide link? Or perhaps changes their identity entirely? Shiek for example, or since Ganon had all 3 pieces in ALttP, Agahnim.
@darkmonger6244
Жыл бұрын
Spirit Tracks Zelda isn’t actually a childhood friend of Link, she just needed to get to the Tower of Spirits and Link was the perfect one (and only one) to ask. In fact, Alfonzo is closer to a childhood friend than Link, at least at the beginning due to his past as a knight in service of the royal family
@noabsolutelynot3660
Жыл бұрын
Malodus and/or Majora could be entirely separate from Demise and his curse. Demise is the Demon King, not the only demon. Also, there's no Hylia blood princess in Majora's mask, which was a key part of Demise's curse "An incarnation of my hatred shall forever haunt the spirit of the hero AND the blood of the goddess" or something like that. I think Majora is a completely separate demonic entity, perhaps not as powerful as Demise but relatively very powerful for a Demon, and much more direct.
@TheCreator1875
Жыл бұрын
About the hero of winds, the spirit of the hero is not passed down through blood relation it’s literally just fate. The kid has the spirit of the hero, he wouldn’t be able to wield the master sword otherwise. But, the shard being shattered is probably still symbolism of the kid awakening that spirit that was within him, as maybe it was laying dormant inside him before that
@moonlitxangel5771
Жыл бұрын
I wouldn't say "just" fate - it's reincarnation. I honestly had no idea there were people who thought it was all blood relation till recently cuz it being reincarnation has always been the thing that makes the most sense to me.
@magnawaves
Жыл бұрын
The hero with no title is the humble son of a sheppard, banditboy. Life has many swords, in his case, four
@yggdrasilsaltar
Жыл бұрын
8:55 it’s actually somewhat confirmed in game by the king of red lions in the 2nd quest when talking to jaboon in ancient hylian, and i quote “the one who i brought with me has no connection to the legendary one.” basically kinda setting in stone that hero of winds was just some random kid who had great courage.
@Marlotix
Жыл бұрын
Hyrule Historia and Zelda Encyclopedia both say each Link contains the spirit of the hero. And "has no connection" could be taken to mean spiritually but could also equally mean by blood. I doubt either of them would be able to simply tell if Link contains the spirit of the hero, and we aren't even sure if they're aware Link usually reincarnates anyway (until Breath of the Wild, it seemed no one did, except Ganondorf's cut dialogue in Twilight Princess). Of course, you could also argue "having the spirit of the hero =/= being a reincarnation" I guess.
@alchemysaga3745
Жыл бұрын
The problem with using The King of Red Lions' dialogue with Jaboon as 'evidence' that Wind Waker Link isn't the Spirit of the Hero is twofold. The first problem is that The King of Red Lions and Jaboon, obviously, exist within the restraints of the world of WW. In the case of the King of Red Lions, he also exists within the mindset of someone who has overwhelmingly been in isolation for hundreds of years, with his only real knowledge of the Hero being.... that the Hero didn't come to save Hyrule hundreds of years ago. Meaning that his words _can't actually be taken as objective fact._ He's saying what he thinks, with all the millenia of misinformation caused by oral tradition. The second problem is the existence of Skyward Sword on the whole. As a later entry to the series and one that Nintendo and Miyamoto were both *aggressively* involved in the development of, any information given in Skyward Sword takes priority over information given in any prior games. Meaning that the bit about how "the Mastersword is actually _Master's Sword,_ and can ONLY be wielded by the warrior with the soul of THE Hero;" takes precedence over the information given in Wind Waker. Including the bit about "not being the soul of the Hero." The problems with the "the spirit of the hero is dead forever" theory extend to Spirit Tracks. Demise's curse is literally overriding. No Spirit of the Hero, no Zelda with divine power from her divine heritage, and no embodiment of the hate of the Demon Tribe. The Malodus is still an evil that would fall under the Curse of Demise. It's not something that was ever limited to just Ganondorf and Ganon.
@pugpugsly2829
Жыл бұрын
Nah it was so link and zelda didnt create inscest babies cons8der the cannon timeline for a sec
@silverkyre
Жыл бұрын
I think they mean bloodline not spirit of the hero. I've personally always thought of spirit of the hero as someone who imbodies courage and not so much incarnation. But that's me.
@Spookyy24
Жыл бұрын
No its funnier this way
@daveyjoneslocker4703
Жыл бұрын
I think the idea of “the spirit of the hero” completely accounts for an unconnected lineage of heroes. Sometimes they are descended, but that in no way is a prerequisite of possessing the spirit of the hero. The only character with a prerequisite of lineage is Zelda who will always possess “the blood of the goddess”. Wind Waker Link is not all that unique in that aspect. I think like half of the Link’s are ultimately just random kids who possess the hero’s spirit.
@ssppeeaarr
8 ай бұрын
but ww link was basically reincarnated to be the hero... lol lets be real. also they all have to be blonde or dirty blonde hair boys. hmm.
@daveyjoneslocker4703
8 ай бұрын
@@ssppeeaarr reincarnation is not lineage. My entire point is the spirit of the hero does not need to follow a bloodline. So what you said isn’t pertinent.
@songoku9348
Жыл бұрын
RE4 remake was the first major 2023 release for me, next is Totk. Can’t wait to see the gameplay tomorrow. Was also playing Skyward Sword earlier and just got the Hylian shield.
@edge4266
Жыл бұрын
Jedi: Survivor? i know it’s not gonna be everyone’s cup of tea but it’s still a major release
@l0bbymusicx314
Жыл бұрын
Hogwarts legacy was crazy
@portal-master-1023
Жыл бұрын
Pikmin 4?
@MadaraUchiha-.._
Жыл бұрын
@@l0bbymusicx314 they shouldve added romance and since they didnt lowkey mid
@2shy2guy52
9 ай бұрын
I'm so glad that in tears of the kingdom we did actually end up getting an explanation of the calamity and ganon's powers usd during it /s
@MegaLpso
Жыл бұрын
I notice that nobody really mentions that ganon exists not just because of demise, but because groose was there. And that's incredibly sad because they all made up at the end of skyward sword and became friends.
@alfalldoot6715
Жыл бұрын
Groose accidentally doomed the world into an endless cycle of evil and good battling.
@GrandmasterFlex
Жыл бұрын
Maybe in the adult timeline the spirit of the hero could work differently too? Like the triforce of courage was shattered, so maybe that had an effect on links spirit, also causing it to shatter. Links spirit could have been placed separately in whoever’s potential to overcome their obstacles was the greatest, thus having a greater outcome of success in this timeline
@krisfrederick5001
Жыл бұрын
When you have the confidence to name something "The Legend of..." means you're not playing games, right out of the gate. That Shigeru Miyamoto based this game off of what I was already doing as a child in the woods on imaginary adventures, makes it all the more magical to me in hindsight. 🗡△
@Rimuru_Tempest_-
Жыл бұрын
The main theme of spirit tracks, it's so good. I remember just sitting listening to it on my ds.
@The_Logician
Жыл бұрын
If there was a Hero before the hero of the sky, that means there were 13. Also there were 2 Zelda in breath of the wild since there was a Queen Zelda and Princess Zelda, and let's not forget the the timeline split that no one talks about in skyward sword.
@doublespeedstriker3505
Жыл бұрын
I believe the third Link is the Hero of Light. In Minish Cap, he restored the blade to it’s true power which allowed him to create three holographic copies of himself. The blade in Four Swords has the same hilt and the same color as the final one in Minish and he becomes 4 separate Links, each having one of his traits. They all have the same sword, just that the color on the hilt is different for each one. Red Link has red as the color on the end instead of green, Blue has blue and Purple has purple. Green being the original, still has the green color on his. He also deals with the same villain, Vaati
@ledbullet100
Жыл бұрын
2:34 Hero of The Sky 3:52 Hero of The Minish 4:28 Hero of The Four Sword 5:00 Hero of Time 6:20 Hero of Twilight 7:21 Hero of Light 7:56 Hero of Winds 9:56 Hero of Spirits 11:43 Hero of Legend 13:09 New Hero of Hyrule 14:05 Hero of Hyrule 15:09 Hero of The Wild
@waldilks
Жыл бұрын
Big video. Loved it! I needed a video like this!
@MrLeach-cp9ib
Жыл бұрын
My headcanon for OOT ganondorf is that he originally wanted/ intended to work together with the king of Hyrule but along the way got corrupted and developed a thirst for power.
@Marlotix
Жыл бұрын
Regarding the Hero of Winds and his connection to the spirit of the hero, Hyrule Historia and the Zelda Encyclopedia both say that every Link contains the spirit of the hero, so this would obviously include the Hero of Winds. And moving on to my own speculation: I think it's meant to be that the Hero of Winds isn't related to the Hero of Time by blood. In the King's conversation with Jabun, it's explicably said they were searching for someone related to the Hero of Time, if not the Hero of Time himself, and the King says that TWW Link "has no connection" to the Hero of Time. "No connection" can obviously be taken to mean he doesn't contain the spirit of the hero, but it can also simply mean he's not related to the Hero of Time by blood. And I doubt either the King nor Jabun would be able to tell whether or not Link is reincarnated from the Hero of Time, and it's not even made clear if they know that Link usually reincarnates. Ganondorf also said he believes the Hero of Winds to be "the Hero of Time, reborn" but this could simply be metaphorical. The Tower of the Gods and its purpose to test a new hero is also often cited as evidence, but other Links have had to go through similar challenges, such as the Links in A Link to the Past and A Link Between Worlds needing the Pendants of Virtue in order to prove themselves worthy of wielding the Master Sword. Also, you say ST Link lends to the theory, but I'd argue the opposite, and that his existence serves as proof that the spirit of the hero still exists in the Adult Timeline. tl;dr I believe the Hero of Winds holds the spirit of the hero and is a reincarnation like the other Links, however he's explicably not related to any previous Link by blood. 47:55 Also, I'm pretty sure it's safe to say the manual for A Link to the Past has been retconned. Hyrule Historia implies, like you said, that he extracted the Triforce of Wisdom from Zelda after defeating Link
@maisaramos1054
Жыл бұрын
Poor wind waker Link. I don't know if this happens with Link from spirit tracks, but from what I see, people isolate this Link a lot from others.😂😔
@moonlitxangel5771
Жыл бұрын
I saw someone else say that the original Japanese version of Wind Waker has that line be different from the King of Red Lions to Jabun and so the English translation is faulty and can't be used as evidence. I haven't looked into this myself yet. Also Skyward Sword came after WW (in terms of release order) and so its reality takes precedence over anything before it due to all the work put into it to make it a true origin for the different iterations of Link/Zelda/Ganondorf. And Skyward Sword says only Link can wield the master sword so WW Link *has* to be spiritually the same Link as the rest. Also agreed about ALttP manual having been retconned since it contradicts too much of what they've said more recently and it was written so long ago before the games were even a huge series so isn't really accurate anymore.
@santiagojpr4779
Жыл бұрын
I think that this is a reference to kaepora gaebora,he said that link was a courageous boy but that he is not The Hero Of time,who is The Hero Of time? Link,is the same case(if you look mistakes in my writing is because i'm not a native speaker).
@Nova-gh5yr
Жыл бұрын
@moonlitxangel5771 in Japanese they say he is unrelated to the legend unlike the English localization that says he is unrelated to the legendary one. All other languages are similar to the Japanese wording to. Where they aren't saying how he isn't related to the hero of time but rather he has nothing to do with the past.
@vibingLieke
Жыл бұрын
Skyward sword link is the original hero. In the entire game he tempers his spirit before it’s cursed
@crystaluwu1012
Жыл бұрын
Nope, the original hero was with Hylia, but in terms of reincarnation he was the first one in the cycle.
@vibingLieke
Жыл бұрын
@@crystaluwu1012 no thats from the non-canon manga in hyrule historia
@Limit02
Жыл бұрын
I’m basically building a playlist of Zelda lore video to pass the time till ToTK so this will be a nice addition
@StonedHunter
Жыл бұрын
I know I said this on the original but I like to bring up the idea for Twilight Zelda that she could just not be of age to 'officially' take the title of Queen (like in Frozen where Elsa had to wait 3 years after her parents dying before being allowed to take the title/full responsibilities).
@MorganSaph
Жыл бұрын
This makes sense. So her official title would have been something like "Princess Regent Zelda".
@jeezed2950
Жыл бұрын
In my personal headcanon, Zelda from zelda 1 dies at the end from the exhaustion of resisting Ganon's torture. It explains why she is not present in the kingdom in Zelda 2, and even gives link some seriously good motivation for awaking the original ancient zelda from her slumber. It would be a great twist in a novelization.
@miloincognito5948
Жыл бұрын
For myself: triforce of wisdom cuz Knowing things is cool, but sometimes I might need the courage one more haha. As for u: i bestow upon you the triforce of courage, so you have the power to do anything u want and set your mind to :)
@ancientbaltoy8769
Жыл бұрын
Spoiler warning for totk It would be really funny to continue Zelda's story like "then she traveled back in time and became a dragon
@GideonGrimmGaming
Жыл бұрын
6:50 Rusl had been training him. I believe he mentions it after giving him the wooden sword.
@Ima_lil_Man
Жыл бұрын
Hi Mr Bandit. I just wanted you to know that I think that you are the best Zelda KZitemr out there. I get up every morning and check my phone to see if you’ve posted any new videos. Keep doing what you’re doing. Peace out😊😊
@mr.mcnerdo
Жыл бұрын
I like to assume that the Royalty in The Legend of Zelda use titles according to the logic of Shrek: "Farquaad: Evening. Mirror, mirror, on the wall, is this not the most perfect kingdom of them all? Magic Mirror: Well, technically, you're not a king. Farquaad: Uh, Thelonius? [Thelonius the executioner smashes a small looking glass] You were saying? Magic Mirror: [nervous] I mean you're not a king yet! But you can become one! All you have to do is marry a princess... Farquuad: Go on." Perhaps the ruler doesn't earn their title until they've married, hence why Zelda isn't Queen but her father was King. That would explain most of the series. There may be exceptions but it makes sense throughout the main games.
@thajocoth
Жыл бұрын
Putting Link's Awakening before the Oracle games makes Link's Awakening less selfish. Having Link's Awakening after the Oracles means that the only person helped by destroying the demiplane of Koholint Island and killing everyone in it is Link. Moving it before the Oracles means that everything Link did in the Oracles is now dependent on Link being Koholint Island's annihilator. The deaths of Marin and everyone she's ever known are no longer without purpose.
@javiervasquez625
Жыл бұрын
¿How is it selfish to free an illusory island from the demonic *Nightmare's* control? If you had to choose between ETERNAL enslavement under the Nightmare's control or dissapearing from reality i would definetly choose the latter in a heartbeat.
@heroofmasks
Жыл бұрын
Except there not the same link it's made clear mainly during the linked game that link and zelda never met b4.
@yggdrasilsaltar
Жыл бұрын
@@heroofmasks its kinda up in the air if the oracle games and link’s awakening are the same link despite looking different from each other and they’re placed directly after LA, it could be the same link after the events of koholint
@javiervasquez625
Жыл бұрын
@@yggdrasilsaltar So he goes sailing on a boat one day, becomes shipwrecked on an dream island, returns to Hyrule to have an audience with the Triforce, gets sent to Holodrum and Labrynna and then goes sailing on a similar boat to the one he used before? Very contrived and unrealistic if you ask me.
@WindMageMaster
Жыл бұрын
They are most likely not even the same Link anymore, as it was stated in the encyclopedia (minus one mistranslation). They most likely changed it because Zelda and Link meet for the first time in the Oracles and even Impa doesn’t know him at first. Nobody does. If he were the legendary hero, he’d probably be acknowledged as such.
@1jidion
Жыл бұрын
this is exactly the video i needed right before the totk presentation in an hour, thank you bandit
@doublespeedstriker3505
Жыл бұрын
Just so everyone knows, the Link from the original Legend of Zelda is called the “Hero of Hyrule”
@Hamantha
Жыл бұрын
10:02 so let me get this straight… from the game SPIRIT tracks, a game where you are accompanied by a Zelda’s SPIRIT trying to reconnect the tower of SPIRITS and generally work with SPIRITS to fight Malladus, an evil formless SPIRIT… you decide to call that link the hero of trains(?) and the hero of Spirits??
@partyrock4144
Жыл бұрын
Does demise’s curse stop existing in the adult timeline? With no spirit of the hero to pursue maybe ganondorf stops being an embodiment of hatred. Would explain why he (relatively) chills out in windwaker
@kzyrichm
Жыл бұрын
I watched this in one sitting while goofing off on a video game. Great vid. Amazingly accurate. Balance is fairly struck between too much info and not enough (or boring, wordy analysis versus shallow, meaningless crap. you found the tightrope between these and walked it like a boss). I've been subbed for literal years, but I put a thumbs-up on this video (which i rarely do) EXCLUSIVELY because of the tiny tiny detail all the way at the end. THAT. that was priceless. I literally laughed hard at that bit.
@swarley39
8 ай бұрын
I think part of the reason Link and Zelda have the piece of the triforce in twilight princess is because when Ganondorf was executed he was given the triforce of power (a divine prank, but maybe the goddesses trying to "fix" the split in the timeline caused by Zelda) so with one piece taken the other two were scattered to those that embodied them most, specifically the bloodline of the hero and the goddess incarnate
@melissad4976
Жыл бұрын
Big boyo video! I love these videos to listen and watch while I go about my day ☺️ Granted, if I'm too busy doing whatever the heck, I end up rewatching the videos because I don't want to miss any thing. Anyways, time to press play!
@Joseph_Drew_III
6 ай бұрын
11:41 That’s what you think Also: Non-canon but still my favorite, Hero of Trophies. He knows Zelda and Ganondorf, and pulled the Master Sword out of a stump, but other than that no backstory.
@Revster
2 ай бұрын
A Zelda game where Link is transformed by the triforce in a similar way to Ganon, as a humanoid something rather than wolf link would be pretty sick Maybe not something like Sonic Unleashed where it’s just a gimmick but in a similar way to how we unlock the sage/champion abilities over the course of a game
@jovaughnlaing7171
Жыл бұрын
Hero of conductor's
@TheJacob232
Жыл бұрын
i love how you mention: "did ganon just conjure up an image of zelda just cuz?" and then we have tears of the kingdom
@SECONDQUEST
Жыл бұрын
Neat. Thanks homie. Love the channel
@alchemysaga3745
Жыл бұрын
I still have issues with the "Wind Waker Link isn't the Spirit of the Hero," particularly because the 'evidence' for it primarily comes from the King of Red Lions. And the problem with using The King of Red Lions' dialogue with Jaboon as 'evidence' that Wind Waker Link isn't the Spirit of the Hero is twofold. The first problem is that The King of Red Lions and Jaboon, obviously, exist within the restraints of the world of WW. In the case of the King of Red Lions, he also exists within the mindset of someone who has overwhelmingly been in isolation for hundreds of years, with his only real knowledge of the Hero being.... that the Hero didn't come to save Hyrule hundreds of years ago. Meaning that his words _can't actually be taken as objective fact._ He's saying what he thinks, with all the millenia of misinformation caused by oral tradition. The second problem is the existence of Skyward Sword on the whole. As a later entry to the series and one that Nintendo and Miyamoto were both *aggressively* involved in the development of, any information given in Skyward Sword takes priority over information given in any prior games. Meaning that the bit about how "the Mastersword is actually _Master's Sword,_ and can ONLY be wielded by the warrior with the soul of THE Hero;" takes precedence over the information given in Wind Waker. Including the bit about "not being the soul of the Hero." The problems with the "the spirit of the hero is dead forever" theory extend to Spirit Tracks. Demise's curse is literally overriding. No Spirit of the Hero, no Zelda with divine power from her divine heritage, and no embodiment of the hate of the Demon Tribe. The Malodus is still an evil that would fall under the Curse of Demise. It's not something that was ever limited to just Ganondorf and Ganon.
@furyberserk
Жыл бұрын
1. Ww link has to take the trials to become the hero. He doesn't have the spirit. 2. The master's sword thing was likely because demise would return, not because of demises curse. Zelda has held the sword in botw and totk, but not knowing if as a weapon. Welding the sword was for those who were worthy such as gaining all 3 pendants. "Welding" is a word is the problem. 3. Why would Malus, a demon of his own be affected by the curse. He stole Zelda's power and Zelda's friend went to save her. It's as flimsy as Vaati or Majora being cursed with it.
@alchemysaga3745
Жыл бұрын
@furyberserk 1. He went through a Trial set by the Goddess to be prepared to be the Hero. Like literally *every* Link before him, and those that would follow after him. 2. *ALL* versions of Zelda are the descendents of the Goddess, invested with her power and authority. They're the only people who aren't link who can canonically handle the Master Sword *at all.* Anyone else can't touch it. 3. Demise was the leader of the Demon *tribe.* With the Demon Tribe being described as being *all demons* born from the world. If they're a Demon, they *canonically* have a connection to Demise. What is Malodus described as? *A member of the demon tribe.* What is Majora described as? A demon sealed into a mask by a tribe. The Curse of Demise *canonically ties the three of them together.* If there's no agent of Demise, there's no Princess imbued with the power of the Goddess, and no agent imbued with the Spirit of the Hero. No agent of Demise, means no Link. No Link, no Zelda. No Zelda, *no legend of Zelda.* *The Curse of Demise IS the Legend of Zelda.* You can not separate the two.
@furyberserk
Жыл бұрын
@@alchemysaga3745 I think it was stated that in ww, link needed the trial because he lacked the soul of the hero. It doesn't matter if he's a reincarnation, all heroes need the trial, but he is not a reincarnation. I can't speak on the demon tribe as that seems like a vague technicality.
@Nova-gh5yr
Жыл бұрын
@@furyberserkthat was never stated in wind waker. He took the trials in order to gain access of the master sword which was under the sea in the castle. The tower of gods was actual made to test any potential heroes. It's not even just any hero but the hero chosen by the gods based on the fact they used the word yuusha when explaining this which is only used for Link in the series (the are multiple terms for hero in Japanese so the use of yuusha is significant). Also in the encyclopedia right at the beginning Wind Waker is acknowledged as being a chosen hero reborn, stating his triforce appearing on his hand is proof (which was also stated in game.)
@t3chbr0shadow
8 ай бұрын
I think BoTW and ToTK have done a great job of finally explaining something to me. In the fallen timeline there are two Zelda's because when all else failed, Zelda could have been sealed away in the hopes of one day fixing something that went wrong in her timeline, or to at least save the goddess bloodline. I say that cause BoTW shows Zelda going into stasis by magic. ToTK showed us that 2 Zelda's can exist due to a time paradox. We know of healing and sealing chambers litter the series. I think then that game ends the timeline cause Zelda goes back to as a kid and warns Link that Ganon is a bad man.
@JustConnerygo
Жыл бұрын
I like to have head cannon that each Link is a reincarnation of the Skyward sword link… like a bond beyond time with Zelda/Hylia’s reincarnations as each Princess Zelda. It seems that atleast in the Hero Wins timeline, most links are just straight descents of the last 🤷🏻♂️ atleast with the hero of time and twilight Princess
@moonlitxangel5771
Жыл бұрын
The only ones confirmed to be bloodline connected afaik are OoT Link and TP Link. The rest canonnically speaking are reincarnations. What you've said I'd honestly say is actual, real, confirmed canon. Demise's curse on Link and Zelda said "You people who possess the blood of the Goddess and the SOUL of hero". He specifically says *soul*. The curse is on Hylia's bloodline and the hero's soul. *Zelda* has to be bloodline connected as that's the only way to be a descendent of the Goddess Hylia, but nothing in his curse says the hero is connected by bloodline.
@rjenyawd
Жыл бұрын
Oh snap! 52 minutes? Hitting us with a whole ass movie! Lets gooooooo!
@fatalwaffle1715
Жыл бұрын
Awesome Video Bro!
@Mikeygp17
22 күн бұрын
It would be cool if every reincarnation of link was different, so we could have the same “everyone can be a hero” that Spider-Man have
@Shanedapain3991
Жыл бұрын
10:00 My brother in Christ "Hero of Spirits" was right there.
@1990loulou
8 күн бұрын
Fun fact that was missed Windwaker is the only Legend of Zelda Game that gives us a Cannon look at Zelda mother for the first and only time which can only be seen when your sneaking on to her ship if you stop in her room there is a picture on the wall of a woman that never appears in game and this picture only appears in her room
@WolfieGirlSheena
Жыл бұрын
I believe you're incorrect about Ganondorf not being the reincarnation of Demise's hatred. You're assuming all other demon lords are in some way directly connected to Demise. Except there is little or no evidence of that. However, if you go by the Japanese versions of the series, there is a big detail about most of the big bads in the series that is rarely mentioned in English. That being the Demon Tribe. Demise was Lord of the Demon Tribe. Girahim took that position after Demise was sealed away. Vaati is also a member of that very tribe. However, Ganondorf's power and rage is superior to them all. He himself calls himself the Demon king. It's also why the Master Sword is only ever used when fighting against him usually. It's creation was to fight against Demise and his power. Side note. Majora was from a completely different dimension and has completely different origins, proving as well there is no tie to Demise
@Ironcabbit
Жыл бұрын
Alternate reality? I think the Downfall Timeline was the only true timeline and the other two were just stories that the Hylian survivors told to maintain hope.
@sabrinaberube
3 ай бұрын
I don’t want to spoil, but in french, the knight that teaches sword techniques to Link in Twilight Princess confirm he is the father of Link. His last words after the last technique is « my son » Aaaaaand!!! I’m pretty sure the father of Link from BOTW is the Link from Twilight Princess. Why don’t really know what happened to him after killing Zant and Ganondorf, but we don’t see him at the end of the game at his starting village (in french it’s called Toal, in english i’m not sure) so I presume he stayed at Hyrule castle by Zelda’s sides as a knight
@LegendStormcrow
Жыл бұрын
Why does Tetra randomly lose her tan when wearing a dress!
@Ironcabbit
Жыл бұрын
Maybe it was spray-on.
@drewpott
Жыл бұрын
19:27 "look at how he slurps his soup "sshhhshshshslllup" what an asshole"
@steventhepotionhoarder2107
Жыл бұрын
As much as I love "The Hero of Trains" if we want Link to have a more respectable title, it could be "The Hero of Plains"
@themessiah..
Жыл бұрын
This is probably not going to make sense but.... I thing the reason the 3 timeliness exist not because of zelda but because of the very virtue that the master sword forced link into adult hood creating the causal split in the first place. And it basically softened time to account for all the damage link did messing with time to balance it out and account for all his changes and potentially forgetting to do created the fallen time and since zelda sent link back she gave the child timeline their hero so they might both enjoy their peace for a time
@dorotheareinhart9669
11 ай бұрын
You know I think the reason why there is so few adult time line games is because technically the curse is broken by Zelda sending the hero of time away so there for the spirit of the hero can not be passed down
@randallscott4581
10 ай бұрын
Are you forgetting that Ganondorf literally calls The Hero Of Winds "The Hero of Time Reborn"?
@GonKillua85
Жыл бұрын
As others have stated, the "spirit of the hero" ("soul of the hero" in JP Skyward Sword and both EN & JP Breath of the Wild) isnt a bloodline connection. Anyone can have the spirit of the hero within them. Zelda from Skyward Sword: EN: "To face Demise and give the land hope, the goddess, Hylia, needed someone with an unbreakable spirit. That someone is you, Link. But spirit alone wasn't enough. You had to overcome many trials and awaken the hero within yourself so that you could wield that supreme power. JP: "That’s why Hylia chose a human with a strong soul, for the sake of the world’s hope and to destroy the “Shuuen no Mono”... And that’s you. But, in order to control the Absolute Power... Your soul needed overcome several trials and you needed to awaken as a Hero." Demise from Skyward Sword: EN: "Those who share the blood of the goddess and the spirit of the hero... They are eternally bound to this curse." JP: "You people who possess the blood of the Goddess and the soul of hero shall... forever be unable to escape from this curse!" Impa from Breath of the Wild: EN: The history of the royal family of Hyrule is also the history of Calamity Ganon, a primal evil that has endured over the ages. This evil has been turned back time and time again by a warrior wielding the soul of a hero, and a princess who carries the blood of the Goddess. This is the spirit of the hero AKA Hylia/Zelda's Chosen Hero. It is eternally connected to Hylia/Zelda bloodline AND to Ganon by Demise curse. They will always appear together. So if Ganondorf and Zelda appear in The Wind Waker, a warrior MUST have the "spirit of the Hero" awaken within them, to fulfill the parameters of the curse.
@nickroyal4425
Жыл бұрын
Can we just call spirit tracks link the hero of new hyrule?
@Jade-zt9td
Жыл бұрын
I absolutely think Demise is returning in totk if you look at old clips of the game and see demise he's got the long red glowing like hair that you see in the 3rd trailer for totk
@TheGrossDemon
Жыл бұрын
Omg wait that blue lobster shirt is from windwaker?! That makes it even more adorable 🥺. You can do a mini quest to get it in TOTK, apparently it belongs to some kids dad that wore it a lot when he was younger, sir, are you Link? Howd you get his shirt lol
@skele8961
Жыл бұрын
The hero of hyrule is from zelda 1 and 2. The hero of legend is alttp. The new hero of legend is albw.
@Owlmaster47
Жыл бұрын
I call link in four sword the hero of the four sword
@Baconboi1972
Жыл бұрын
Ganon/Ganondorf returning for the 248,973,145th time: "i may be stupid, but at least i'm not smart."
@thelegendmario1064
Жыл бұрын
9:15 YEET
@jofoz1937
5 ай бұрын
@BanditGames Can you do a history of the Piccori Blade/ Four sword? Cuz I'm a little confused on why the palace of the four sword is in ALTTP.
@MajestiBrown
Жыл бұрын
40:33 Who said they were embodiments of Demise's hatred like Ganon is?
@Mora-ed8xf
Жыл бұрын
Me, with a passionate love for Wind Waker, playing it dozens of times as a child. One of my favorite games ever, forgetting one of the characters is named Niko. I have a son, who we call Niko 😬
@jaredstivers
Жыл бұрын
There might be a actually 4 branch timeline that you brought up that interesting. What if breath of the Wild was when link opens the temple of light to retrieve the master Sword in time and the Tri-Force didn't split and he got his wish? There would be no Sages and Links not old enough to slay him. Remember he not drunk with power, as the tri-Force hasn't corrupted him to wanting more power, as he only want the kingdom for him people to survive. But the scenes depicted in tear was the war between the Hyrule people and Ganondorf going to war to reclaim there kingdom once again while using the Tears as the new Tri-Force. It would be cannon since the Master Sword is placed in the forest. In Link to the Past, you can Retrieve the Sword and find your way to the sword until a certain point and requirements ment. Maybe they took the sword and hit it into the lost woods to keep it out of the hands of Ganondorf. And there is one more Link. The Original Hero, the one that shown great courage, rallied the people of Hyrule to stand up to the non-Sealed Demise and used the Sword to get everyone to safety and created the Skylot. The one that Sacred his life to save everyone and with the Goddess help to seal away Demise. That day forward the Goddess promise to allow his soul to return when the evil returned and for herself to take human form. It was there the Skyward Sword events would take place.
@ChristInspireTV
Жыл бұрын
Thank you for sharing
@neptuneplaneptune3367
Жыл бұрын
I think the reason Twilight Zelda is not called Queen is that she simply dosnt have her official coronation yet. Maybe her father stepped down just a week ago so until she is crowned officially its still Princess Zelda.
@somethingbanter
Жыл бұрын
wasn't the exact wording of the curse from demise that there would always be "one who possesses the soul of a hero" not "the hero". Or something like that? I don't see why they all have to be incarnations of the same spirit
@lobsterp3821
Жыл бұрын
No, it is "the hero", not a.
@jownatube
Жыл бұрын
Yessir 🎉🎉🎉
@DanielMWJ
2 ай бұрын
13:45 is it just me, or is this a missed opportunity to put this at the end of each timeline, and have it fuse them into a single timeline? That way, one Link comes from each timeline.
@swarley39
8 ай бұрын
I really wish Twilight Princess got a sequel like Majora's Mask to OoT, but i also wish they made a sequel to OoT but in the adult timeline, maybe to see Link help restore Hyrule after defeating Ganon and stopping another evil that would threaten the weak and repairing Hyrule
@merciless9338
Жыл бұрын
Can we all just talk about how amazing they made links father look absolute mwah perfect
@supplespecimen725
Жыл бұрын
12:08 i don’t see how it could be the hero of time, as in this timeline he just appeared, fought ganon and kicked the bucket. Not much opportunity for baby-making
@Thor-Orion
Жыл бұрын
11:37 are you SURE about that? =P
@kingdaniel5060
Жыл бұрын
Am I the only person that thought Sheik was a female the whole time?
@amelzon1
3 ай бұрын
Nope. Had a gold cartridge growing up. Always thought Sheik was female. It confused me when princess Rito says “he.”
@canaanmorgan5496
Жыл бұрын
There are a handful of links you don’t play as which is cool to me. Being the very first hero of Hylia (before skyward sword link) the hero that was mentioned in minish cap that we know very little about, then in Botw the hero 10,000 years before the hero of the wild
@666blaziken
Жыл бұрын
It may be a mat pat theory, but in a link between worlds, the link from a link to the past is actually in a link between worlds. He's the old man who sets up the multiplayer mode, and he is the final boss in that section. I believe that similar to how Zelda 1 and 2 have 2 zeldas, alttp and albw have 2 different links.
@RyuuKageDesu
Жыл бұрын
I do like these videos being together like this. Any chance of doing the same for other recurring characters?
@drewpott
Жыл бұрын
I think since we've been told by developers that all links are iterations of the same person that the wind waker link simply had the most freedom since he had a time in his life without the triforce to pull him to his destiny, like skyward swords link
@treetires
Жыл бұрын
Oogle Boogle
@retexcrafted
Жыл бұрын
you should have talked about the hero of man the hero in between the minish and the sky its really interesting actully
@renereyes2648
Жыл бұрын
There are japanese only manga for the original Legend of Zelda and The Adventure of Link in the later Manga the current princess Zelda is killed and only the Sleeping Princess remained.
@BassySasskets
Жыл бұрын
The fallen timeline is simple, it isn't the timeline where Link died, that's impossible. It's the abandoned child timeline you play in during Ocarina of time. The Child timeline zelda sends you to at the end takes place before Link has even met Zelda in the castle as a child. It's different than the Child timeline you are in during the events of the game. Without Link in that timeline but placed in an earlier childhood timeline it is left for Gannon to do as he pleases. Zelda unknowingly created all 3 timelines by sending Link back in time to an earlier point than when he pulled the master sword.
@WorldWeave
Жыл бұрын
“What’s the difference between Ganondorf and Ganon?” My answer: functionally nothing…Ganon is just the name of his Boar form, but if I wanna call Ganondorf “Ganon” because it’s simpler, you will not be able to stop me
@akiraasmr3002
Жыл бұрын
When are you going to make an updated video with ToTK lore since its already out?
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