during the entire conversation Magnus was slowly backing away.
@Waywardpaladin
2 жыл бұрын
"Bro, I just came over to return that book I borrowed..."
@TheAsylumCat
2 жыл бұрын
I don't need both eyes to see where this is going.
@depressedgwyndolin
2 жыл бұрын
I was vary much scared during that rant I was just giving back a book WTF
@Waywardpaladin
2 жыл бұрын
@@depressedgwyndolin Don't worry, you did nothing wrong.
@depressedgwyndolin
2 жыл бұрын
@@Waywardpaladin thank you friend
@jamzee_
2 жыл бұрын
Magnus: “Dude. I just came here to tell you dad wanted us to be home by eight.”
@bbbbKeJodddd
Жыл бұрын
"And I shall be home by ten, brother. With guests. "
@obisvanainobis9950
Жыл бұрын
@@bbbbKeJodddd NOOO
@RandoGrunt
Жыл бұрын
I can already hear the TTS Magnus voice actor saying that, lol
@moodyowlproductions4287
Жыл бұрын
Lorgar"YOU CAN'T TELL ME WHAT TO DO"!!!!!
@FrostRare
Жыл бұрын
@@moodyowlproductions4287 I DONT CARE DADDY If you don’t know what I’m talking about, look up Vic Berger Trump Rally 😂
@chinafuture6484
2 жыл бұрын
If only Lorgar had realized that he could change the warp by making people smile.
@DefaultDerrick
Жыл бұрын
I mean isn't this literally true? Any strong emotion. So happiness too.
@HellishSpoon
Жыл бұрын
yes, by smiling with sadistic intent
@lukepoplawski3230
Жыл бұрын
I always wondered that (just getting into 40k). Everything negative emotion manifests in the Warp, but is there a counterpart to the Warp that we’d know as “heaven?”
@Shotokan1001
Жыл бұрын
@@lukepoplawski3230 No, negative emotions are to strong and too plentiful. Prior to the "birthing" of the chaos gods, the warp was a relatively calm place.
@unyieldingsarcasm2505
Жыл бұрын
@@Shotokan1001 And the real reason, the setting panders to edgelords who shit on anything not "grimdark enough". See the community crying over the tau so hard that GW had to retcon them into being all manipulated mind slaves cause EVERYTHING MUST BE DARK, NO NOT EDGE!!111! Good parts of the warp don't happen, because the customers don't want it to happen.
@xanth0sSkaios
2 жыл бұрын
The VA really sells Lorgar's half-fascination, half-terror as to what's coming.
@sg0310
2 жыл бұрын
That's what I loved most about ADB's word bearer's books. They aren't all raving lunatics, some of them know the pantheon for what they are but it's far too late for them to turn back. Little by little their humanity and compassion is chipped away leaving them the servants of malevolent gods believing that only worship of them will save humanity. They could have been of the Imperium's most zealous legions had the Emperor not shamed them and glassed their perfect city in from of them. Their purpose had been shattered right in front of them and in their desperation they turned to beings that seek to damn the Imperium they once fought so hard to protect.
@flyboy_nathan4112
2 жыл бұрын
All of the audiobooks keeble narrates fantastically, I can't think of a single character he doesn't nail perfectly
@sg0310
2 жыл бұрын
@@flyboy_nathan4112 I've probably listened to more than 10 audiobooks with keeble narrating them and let me tell you it never gets old, dude has the perfect voice.
@alpine7313
2 жыл бұрын
@@sg0310 ADB and J Keeble are my go to combo. Every book with those two names is a guaranteed banger.
@dragonqueen556
Жыл бұрын
Just imagine his duels the zealous and rage of a Madman what's the breaking voice of a betrayed child
@TreewwwyYzzerdd
2 жыл бұрын
Lorgar greatest gift his is passion, its stronger than Angrons rage or Fulgrims confidence, it literally set mankind aflame
@chiefkeef74
2 жыл бұрын
So in short: everything is Lorgar's fault.
@gargoyles9999
2 жыл бұрын
@@chiefkeef74 it was all Magnus fault.
@depressedgwyndolin
2 жыл бұрын
@@gargoyles9999 bruh
@Freedmoon44
2 жыл бұрын
Wow calm down there, Angrons rage while not putting mankind aflame certainly put his legion in blood and fire, and Fulgrims sheer ego allowed him to take a point blank virus bomb and the worst damage he got was being crippled because his Ego was hurt, not even his "soul", but his mere ego. He probably has enough for all of humanity. And in truth Magnus fans are more passionate about stating Magnus the arrogant naive idiot didnt do the big load of stuff that he did do wrong. The path to hell is filled with good intention yknow, he wanted good, he done bad, he assumes his mistake and let the big hypocrite wolf shank him and thats all he deserves
@GeoffreyBronson
2 жыл бұрын
@@chiefkeef74 it was literally the Emperor's fault.
@MrSlug-ki9jl
Жыл бұрын
Magnus: "Maybe the Council of Nikaea had a point"
@lordfrostwind3151
4 ай бұрын
"OH no, this Exactly what I sound like when I get into it don't I? No wonder Leman is always looking at me like that."
@Zaprozhan
2 жыл бұрын
My experience with the lore channels is Lorgar getting insulted, dunked on, ignored, belittled... then Jonathan Keeble speaks Dembski-Bowden's words, visualized by you.... oh shit. This guy is dangerous.
@infidelheretic923
Жыл бұрын
A Primarch with a wounded ego is a very dangerous being.
@kazmark_gl8652
8 ай бұрын
Kharns worst betrayal was not doing the galaxy a favor and just fucking killing Lorgar.
@jackrusso4700
8 ай бұрын
Yeah everyone made Lorgar seem like a dumbass but he’s a compelling and intimidating character when you actually look at lore
@aazz9676
7 ай бұрын
No he is still a dumb ass thinking he can alter and control the warp.
@Bread-nx9fo
7 ай бұрын
@@jackrusso4700Feel like a lot of writers ruined his character by making him a punching bag
@Kalebfenoir
2 жыл бұрын
That was fantastic. Lorgar sounds spot on. Soft voice, but still powerful. I always like it when I hear something from the Primarchs, and the voice sounds just right. I always believed Lorgar had a soft, pleasant voice, one you wanted to listen to, like a pastor's or a diplomat's.
@SonsOfLorgar
2 жыл бұрын
And just balancing on the edge between genious and cackling madness
@walnutking92
2 жыл бұрын
Everything Jonathon Keeble narrates is fantastic. Would highly recommend you check out literally any of the audiobooks he's narrated :)
@doomguy9049
2 жыл бұрын
@@walnutking92 yeah Keeble and Toby Longwortth are GOATs, two of my absolute favorite narrators/voice actors.
@mitchellnaujokaitis1021
2 жыл бұрын
I really like the soft voice. He's a preacher and the softness of his voice almost draws you in, you hang onto his world because you WANT to hear what he has to say next.
@cody1570
2 жыл бұрын
Easily capable of swaying people with a strong since of belief the power of words was once said to be a witches and warlocks strongest power, and when written down held power. Thats why it is called "spell'ing"
@trolldrool
2 жыл бұрын
This is what I love about the Word Bearers. They don't inflict torment just to get a sadistic kick out of it, though I'm sure they get that too. There's an actual purpose behind it. And that makes it so much more horrific. There's something almost paradoxically scientific in how inflicting pain causes a reaction in the Warp which can then be coaxed into achieving a desired result in the material realm. There are rituals, true names, amulets and tomes of forbidden knowledge. It's primitive superstition made reality. Which is so much more fascinating than the sterile Imperial dogma of "Psykers act as conduits to channel the energies of the Warp".
@MrFredstt
2 жыл бұрын
I would argue that aside from probably the Emperor Lorgar understands the warp far more than any other human
@bluewingedknight7762
2 жыл бұрын
@@MrFredstt I would go further and say that Lorgar understands the Warp better than the Emperor, not because he is more capable but because he is capable of embracing it. The Emperor is the anathema to the Chaos Gods, the human embodiment of Order, he is humanity’s God but he isn’t really human per se. Lorgar meanwhile is one of the most human things to ever live, a Demi-God, he scratches the surface of divinity but he doesn’t quite reach it, that space in between being human and being divine is filled by Chaos, and Lorgar’s was like an abyss.
@gideonmele1556
Жыл бұрын
@@bluewingedknight7762 there are theories (which I quite like) that when Emps went into the warp for… who knows in order to finish the orinarch project he enticed some minor warp gods or powerful chaos beings unaligned with the Big Four and shoved them into the primarch bodies (hence where some of the non-psyker primarch powers come from that aren’t reflections of the Emperor). We see that with Corvus and Sanguinius having two warring angels within him. If so, Lorgar of all people would be the one to figure out and understand having a minor god instead of a soul as well as how to exploit that
@dovakiin296
Жыл бұрын
That depens on whose psykers you're talking about. The Grey Knights probably have a more colorful definition of what they do, as do probably the rune priests of the space Wolves and other groups. I personally like the Black Templars view on psykers and the warp....
@paulbarton4395
Жыл бұрын
The best of the Traitor Legions, and Lorgar was the best of the Traitor Primarchs.
@AximandTheCursed
2 жыл бұрын
Man, when Lorgar fell, he fell with every last fibre of his being, channelling his every last shred of self over to the worship and service of the Ruinous Powers, as only he could. It was his realisation of purpose that he embraced as completely as he once embraced service to the God-Emperor... ironically proving his nihilistic brother Curze correct; "Death is nothing compared to vindication"
@MrFredstt
2 жыл бұрын
Also incredibly ironic that now the Emperor is indeed a God, completely validating everything Lorgar once believed
@kasadeya3754
2 жыл бұрын
Burning his world, killing his wife and his legions wives, and forcing him and his legion to kneel in the dust of their loved ones ashes..to aknowledge that they did wrong, in calling him a god. Hmm..might break a person
@AximandTheCursed
2 жыл бұрын
@@kasadeya3754 Considering the first option was to erase the guy and his top people from existence and memory... possibly folding yet another Legion into the ranks of the Ultramarines... there really were no soft options, but even Big E did not reckon with the evil that festered in the hearts of Erebus and Kor Phaeron.
@sawspitfire422
2 жыл бұрын
@@AximandTheCursed Bro that option you just presented (punishing the perpetrators and nobody else) is a million times more preferable to the wanton massacre the Big E actually committed. I'd say that's a pretty soft option in comparison, even if it is execution it's still a heck of a lot less of it
@AximandTheCursed
2 жыл бұрын
@@sawspitfire422 Yes, but Big E was persuaded that Lorgar and his sons could be redeemed... in hindsight, it was the wrong option, but Lorgar's own brothers argued on his behalf, one of the few times when both Leman Russ and Magnus the Red agreed on anything... Many things about it could have been handled better, from the Ultramarines not forcibly evacuating the Monarchian cities, to the Emperor himself choosing a less drastic demonstration instead, or recognising the issues from the start, before the Word Bearers even joined the Great Crusade... But it all happened the way it did, almost like the Ruinous Powers arranged it to be so...
@fullmetalanarchist6521
2 жыл бұрын
I love how absolutely insane he is but also terrifyingly coherent.
@morganculbertson2373
2 жыл бұрын
This was all really well done and the art and music was beautiful my dude. I honestly really love how in bliss Lorgar looks and sounds as he's describing what he's doing. Which is essentially "Look Magnus, look at all of this genocide and wanton slaughter, Angron and our legions are committing and going to commit! Isn't it wonderful?" It really shows just how much Lorgar fell, a man who used to care for mankind and want to raise everyone up to believe that his father was a God and that they could all be like him to a mass murderer braying at his restraints and sanity letting his sons, his own sons become hosts to nightmares and unleashing them upon helpless people. Top notch work my dude
@johnisaacfelipe6357
2 жыл бұрын
This is the reason why I love lorgar, so much potential for good, such a great force for evil
@evropaawake4421
2 жыл бұрын
That's the problem. The emperor for all his power and knowledge, failed to understand the power of worship. To worship the Emperor is to directly deny chaos. Instead he humiliated a loyal son and expected him to just say "oh well" They had no private deep father to son conversation where they go back and forth with their ideas. Instead lorgar was ordered to stop, he disagreed and got humiliated. Lorgar was really not the bad guy in this story.
@shmee123ful
2 жыл бұрын
thing is, i believe and im not alone in this. Lorgar never cared for humanity, he was never a good man. there was never anything noble or good in him. he is more than any other character or being in the enitrey of warhammer 40k time line the most evil creature the whole universe ever conserved.
@evropaawake4421
2 жыл бұрын
@@shmee123ful That's not really true. Lion cares less for humanity than Lorgar, if you read the description of planets Lorgar conquered, they were pretty much perfect. The only primarchs who genuinely cared about humanity were Lorgar, Sanguinius, Guilliman and Vulcan
@morganculbertson2373
2 жыл бұрын
@@shmee123ful I wouldn't say he didn't care. I'd say he cared more about the need of faith and something to believe in than he cared about people. Like he'd care for you so long as you believed in his faith. Because yea he'd set up like "perfect worlds" but what about those people that just wouldn't convert? That just either was militantly atheist or who wouldn't give up their old gods. Like yea all the legions killed religious zealots but for me I believe lorgar enjoyed killing them because "slay the heretic." Plus look at the lengths he'd go to just to justify his faith in his father. Big E spelled it out quite clearly with I AM NOT A GOD! and Lorgar would just take that and say only the truly divine would deny their divinity, he's just being modest and humble. He was gonna hold on to that faith until the bitter end. And he did, that's why such a drastic measure was taken with monarchia.
@cordthomas97
Жыл бұрын
Whoever voiced this just brought it to life. The silent passion in every word is so entoxicating.
@paralyzedtortoise8446
Жыл бұрын
Jonathan Keeble, he’s great.
@legioinvigilata
Жыл бұрын
He truly is the first heretic.
@paganstomper
Жыл бұрын
@@paralyzedtortoise8446 The best. By far. Just my opinion.
@ricardoofthorolund4680
6 ай бұрын
@@paralyzedtortoise8446He also voiced Maliketh the Black Blade in Elden Ring. Truly a great voice actor
@gustadood9166
2 жыл бұрын
Lorgar is often be dunked-on for not being the best fighter, or being a runt of the litter. But he's probably among the most fucking dangerous of the primarchs.
@Macharius89
2 жыл бұрын
if he did´nt land on Colchis and stay by the side of the Emperor on Terra he could be not the profet of Chaos, but the supreme builder of the Imperial Truth. Not the best warrior, not the most stronger, cunning or the most powerfull psicker... but words alone can change the universe, and damn, he knows how to use them
@AdvocatusDiaboliFin
2 жыл бұрын
Lorgar: *gives Alpharius two copies of Book of Lorgar* Alpharius/Omegon: *nervous chuckle*
@afqwa423
2 жыл бұрын
Meh. Lots of Primarchs weren't good fighters or had other passions besides war. Perturabo wanted to be more of an engineer and architect than a general. Guilliman explicitly planned for his Legion to retire to civil service. And it can be argued that Guilliman wasn't a good melee fighter either, but he's arguably the most influential in the modern Imperium, just because he was _really really_ good at logistics and governing. His sons have the advantage of having the least dramatic and ordinary "childhood" that any son could ask for. In a way, it's proper that Guilliman was Lorgar's archrival, they're both men of words, it's just that Guilliman was far more concerned with the material universe and more practical forms of scholarship. And of the two, I'd argue Guilliman left the more worthwhile legacy. That's kind of the point. The Primarchs are just more than operators or soldiers. They're leaders of men and brilliantly creative. The best melee fighter of the bunch got a lobotomy that made the other Primarchs look upon him with a mixture of pity and contempt. Angron's greatest gift was never his ability to fight, since his novel implies he had empathic powers and the ability to take away other people's pain. That was robbed from him. In an alternate timeline Angron would've probably be as well-loved as Vulkan or Sanguinius.
@johnisaacfelipe6357
2 жыл бұрын
@@afqwa423 But Lorgar is unique in that it was never in him to be a general, all of the other primarchs found it easy and n0atural to conduct warfare, establish themselves as martial experts or psychic demigods, and found it natural to be in a state of war but for Lorgar, he never had that natural ability for war, he never had that natural thirsts for warfare, he was never comfortable as head of a legion butchering their way through the stars. He never had that killer instinct that is so pronounced in other primarchs and he is aware of this. He was ever a creature of peace and diplomacy.
@sawjhtheian6651
2 жыл бұрын
Lorgar, the Primarch that I hate the most. However, his mind and how he thinks is amazingly written. Truly one of the best unredeemable villains of fiction.
@Pyre
Жыл бұрын
That...was an *astonishingly* good voice and read for Lorgar. Holy hell.
@JonAtomic
Жыл бұрын
Jonathan Keeble is amazing
@lifeecho5527
2 жыл бұрын
that voice crack when he says million million gives me shivers and adds weight to the magnitude of the sheer numbers of deamons
@michaelcoward1902
2 жыл бұрын
Johnathan Keeble is hands down the best audiobook narrator. I'll listen to literally any book he reads and enjoy it. He does a lot of the 40k audiobooks and he brings that artistry to all of them...My favourite are the black Legion series.
@CollinBuckman
Жыл бұрын
I love the part when he says "Tell me you feel it"- the tone Keeble puts on the line, something between begging and demanding, really makes it feel like Lorgar is almost seeking validation in his beliefs from Magnus.
@42ndguardian
6 ай бұрын
'Seeking validation and freedom from responsibility of his actions' is the phrase that best sums up Lorgar Aurelian. He'll believe in any higher power so long as he doesn't have to be the one ultimately responsible for his actions
@42ndguardian
6 ай бұрын
'Seeking validation and freedom from responsibility of his actions' is the phrase that best sums up Lorgar Aurelian. He'll believe in any higher power so long as he doesn't have to be the one ultimately responsible for his actions
@CollinBuckman
6 ай бұрын
@@42ndguardian a bit like Konrad, who was obsessed with the idea that the future was fixed and impossible to change so he never had to take responsibility for his atrocities
@vyanesh6487
3 жыл бұрын
I might not be the biggest fan of Lorgar but god damn this is a stunning piece of work! …Two months later and all of a sudden I have a growing Word Bearers army. I swear this video planted seeds of chaos.
@Ventruethful
2 жыл бұрын
The sweet voice of our Primarch, truly his greatest weapon. That and, of course, the Primordial Truth He bears
@Inshabael.
2 жыл бұрын
You are blessed, brother.
@rowdyzack5914
2 жыл бұрын
Not a fan of Lorgar? Eww. Calth was an act of self defense!
@mr.rousseau.4655
2 жыл бұрын
You at the top I am glad you have been enlightened.
@rowdyzack5914
2 жыл бұрын
You have been blessed, my son
@rodaaan3640
3 жыл бұрын
One of the favorite primarch, this music that you picked and narrator. It so beautiful, that gives me goosebumps. So good!
@dgoodfellow234
3 жыл бұрын
This whole Audiobook is gold
@chiefmasterofdeepwarrens3208
2 жыл бұрын
This is a lie, no one likes Lorgar!
@hellatze
2 жыл бұрын
if gw see this. the video will be removed
@rodaaan3640
2 жыл бұрын
@@chiefmasterofdeepwarrens3208 you are lying
@flaviomonteiro1414
2 жыл бұрын
The Unrisen deserve more love... Also I blame Erebus, not Lorgar...
@KoltoMephet
2 жыл бұрын
The best "Moustache Twirling" moment in all of 40k for sure. Keeble captures Lorgar so perfectly, on the verge of religious hysteria, borderline (?) madness. I do think this video misses out on the best part of that scene though, just a few moments later. "That, is the Blessed Lady." "You built two..." "Oh no. I built three."
@DeusExAngelo
2 жыл бұрын
Gotta be honest, I always felt bad for Lorgar before his fall..and even after. Maybe, it's a because I am a spiritual person, but his story and downfall was always a tragic as Magnus. Plus, I think he was right about the Emperor. The Emperor is a god. Maybe not on the same level as the ruinous powers, but a god nonetheless. The Emperor claims not to be a god, that there was no such thing as the supernatural, or gods, etc. But all that? It was lie. The Emperor is a very powerful manifestation of the supernatural, from his physique, to his intellect, to his charisma. For crying out loud, he could change his shape and when he would reveal him form it was often a titan of a man in golden, gleaming, and ornate armor. There's also hints that he may have in fact influenced the religions of Earth before it was Terra. Perhaps he tried to unite the world under a religion and it didn't work so he tried to drastically over-correct. Heck, he is still trying to steer Humanity like a god, but even more directly. He wanted to be the example that all humans could strive and look too. Couple that with his reality-bending powers, he is a living god of humanity. But the Imperial Truth was always a blatant lie, because the Warp/The Realm Of Souls had already existed eons before him. His existence and powers came directly from it. There already existed another layer of reality full of both wonder and danger. Instead of properly trying to warn humanity about it, it's danger, and how it could harness, changed, and made into a better place...he tried to cover up it's existence entirely. Often violently. He thought he could starve out the Chaos Gods via denying and abolishing faith. This was incredibly foolish because it is not faith that powers the Chaos Gods, but the extreme (often negative emotions) that came with sapient existence. He could've used the faith and hope people had in him, and channeled it even further. Yes, there is always the dangers to fanatical faith and zealous dogmatism, no doubt. There are things to criticize about how and when religion and faith is rampantly abused. But to deny that the supernatural and gods exist when it's often demonstrably (atleast in 40k) very real? Did the Emperor think he could cover that up forever? Did he think he would one day reveal that the Imperial Truth was a farce and people would still have faith in him or his system? That many wouldn't feel betrayed by this? Lorgar saw what was blatantly obvious about the Emperor, he was/is a god. What humanity should aspire to be. He thought his father was the pinnacle of benevolence, wisdom, and brilliance. Something that was innate in all of mankind despite their follies and flaws. Instead he was spurned by the one he considered to be his creator and lord. Not only was he spurned, it was done so with needless cruelty and loss of innocents who did nothing wrong but worship the Emperor, love him, and find meaning in their lives thanks to him. It's no wonder Lorgar turned to Chaos. It doesn't excuse the Primarch's own atrocities, true. Yet it's completely understandable how and why he fell. It's tragic.
@joshuaashkar6644
2 жыл бұрын
Just call the Big E Xerxes, but don't call him a God. in all seriousness though I think his main thoughts behind there are no gods are as follows: a. if he can spread the imperial truth of science over gods then people would not feed the ruinous powers with their devotion, b. he didn't want to be worshipped as a god, for this reason, it would in turn feed his power and his ego and push him to become more like chaos which he didn't want. He wanted mankind united under a signal banner in the goal to make mankind thrive. He hated Xenos because the eldar could "see the future" and saw mankind feeding chaos, and wanted to wipe mankind out. the eldar looked down on everyone in the galaxy as well, as beneath them, in turn making them no better than chaos to the emperor, birthing slannesh probably didn't help either. He felt that ignorance could be used as a shield against chaos, but in turn, helped chaos subvert people to their cause.
@fernandorivera4719
2 жыл бұрын
@@joshuaashkar6644 Which fittingly explains why the religion based around the Emperor in the far future preaches hatred, ignorance, and intolerance. Despite their ritual trappings and medieval trinkets, the Ecclesiarchy worships a 'deity' that was more akin to Stalin and Pol Pot than Jesus or Buddha. Of course their creed would be fire and brimstone, where the "unclean" are not suffered to live.
@k.h.g3695
2 жыл бұрын
Given that he had adopted various identities over the eons, it is possible that the Emperor might have been Stalin, Pol Pot, Jesus, etc... He is essentially a far more powerful version of the immortal Vandal Savage of the DC Universe - a caveman whom through the millennia has adopted various personalities: a poet, an artist, a thief, a governor, a hunter, etc; but most importantly, a conqueror.
@infidelheretic923
Жыл бұрын
The emperor had a justifiable reason for denying the existence of the supernatural. Demons draw strength from mankind’s belief and fear of them. So by proclaiming none exist he was depriving them of one of their main power sources.
@wiilov
Жыл бұрын
@Infidel Heretic Except Chaos is empowered and made volatile by repression. Big E just packed the cannon aiming at his imperium with more gun powder. Denying the Warp/Human Nature is NEVER the answer. Look to Corvus: he embraced and directed his Warpstuff and has ascended to Dæmonhood without losing himself to the "Ruinous" powers.
@paulbarton4395
Жыл бұрын
The Word Bearer closed his eyes and lifted his hands - a conductor before an orchestra in those tense, edged moments before the first note is struck. ‘The warp is a song, brother. Let me play a verse for you.’
@pollythepolarbear5178
2 жыл бұрын
Lorgar is a super underrated primarch like no he isn't a fighter but if your into chops he is extremely important maybe they should have made him a more powerful psyker
@FennEXE
2 жыл бұрын
Aside from Magnus Lorgar is arguably the strongest psyker among primarchs
@etiennevanier
2 жыл бұрын
He's the second most powerful psyker primarch. Though maybe post-Molech Horus is stronger.
@pollythepolarbear5178
2 жыл бұрын
@@etiennevanier more so the Conrad or sanguineous ?
@etiennevanier
2 жыл бұрын
@@pollythepolarbear5178More than Conrad certainly, Lorgar opens warp storms and summons demons. That has to be better than prescience. Sanguinius is closer, but apart from very direct powers, like blasting people with energy, and prescience, Bird-Boy does not do much psychically (that I've seen in Heresy novels).
@ironduke5058
2 жыл бұрын
@@FennEXE I'd say Mortartion tops him no? It goes more like Magnus, Mortartion, Lorgar, Sanguinius, Konrad, Corax
@varangiangaming7178
2 жыл бұрын
Even as someone who constantly makes a mockery of Lorgar and his sons, I've got to admit this is some of the best artwork combined with some of the best voiceover work I've seen.
@TheHandofDestiny
2 жыл бұрын
Ah so you constantly lie to yourself
@MagosDominusRevan
2 жыл бұрын
Best artwork ? Mate ...
@PainGumbo
2 жыл бұрын
@@TheHandofDestiny At least he is not a coward.
@bmorebread8993
2 жыл бұрын
@@PainGumbo yea like that time u kicked his ass and he teleported and hid like a true bitchass
@RomanvonUngernSternbergnrmfvus
2 жыл бұрын
@@TheHandofDestiny your daddy hides from the raven because he know that as soon as he leaves his safe space his existence will be nevermore.
@ashe274
2 жыл бұрын
Keeble is a damn good narrator, but the music choice really kicks this up a notch. Beautiful. I don’t even care for Lorgar much, but this was mesmerizing.
@Glitchyetiad
2 жыл бұрын
1:05 little known fact when lorgar cry's its from his left eye, symbolically if you cry from your right eye its joy however if its from your left eye it means pain. (both=frustration)
@dannybutts6877
2 жыл бұрын
I didn't even notice the tear dang also is that an actual thing right eye Joy left eye pain?
@TheHandofDestiny
2 жыл бұрын
Little details matter
@Itsallover57
2 жыл бұрын
@@dannybutts6877 im sure that's bull shit in reality but it could be a literary symbol. Anytime I shed a tear its from my right eye and I am not happy when I do, I assure you.
@chestnut4860
Жыл бұрын
That's not how eyes work.
@guardsmengunner
2 жыл бұрын
Even though I have not listened to his book yet, I can imagine that Magnus is listening to his brother and is genuinely horrified at what his brother is becoming. Lorgar was one of the brothers that Magnus was fairly close with, so I can picture it in my mind that Magnus is listening to Lorgar speak and is questioning that madness and pain which has taken hold of his brother. How he has fallen so completely into the hands of the ruinous powers, there is nothing he can do, even if he tried. The man before him truly isn’t his brother anymore, but a zealot gone mad because of the rejection of his faith, faith to a being that he saw not only as his father, but as a true god.
@quangcaodo8864
2 жыл бұрын
You should. Betrayer is literally *the* best book in the entire series
@infidelheretic923
11 ай бұрын
If you’ve ever seen a family member get inducted in a cult you can probably relate. But maybe a little different because Magnus knew about Chaos and used it on a few occasions even before the Heresy.
@kennethkitchens88
2 жыл бұрын
LORGAR: Monologues Magnus: "Brother, did you forget to take your medication again?"
@czechmeoutbabe1997
Жыл бұрын
Genuinely, this is the first time I've heard something read from Warhammer literature that makes the corruption of the warp seem actually intoxicating. The voice sounds to tender and sincere that it makes the Daemonic incursion seem good.
@mranderson718
Жыл бұрын
You know the villain is scary when their monologue sounds like a MeatCanyon video.
@KingLich451
Жыл бұрын
i love the audiobook narrators so much. They really did picked the good voices.
@jcmchandsomeface2292
Жыл бұрын
Johnathan Keeble is a fantastic voice actor, every audiobook from the black library with him is always going to be fantastic,
@HellishSpoon
Жыл бұрын
You know i get chills when he says "Call it...the warp"
@zonedoyestander
Жыл бұрын
Absolutely beautifully done Johnathan Keeble! Lorgar is a perfect character for artists with real potential.
@chueki5874
2 жыл бұрын
I'm one third into this book, and it's one of the best pieces of literature I've read. Honestly I didn't expect Warhammer 40k to have such an exquisitely descriptive narrative, and beautiful dialogues like these.
@patricion.3607
2 жыл бұрын
Aaron Dembski-Bowden is a damn good author. His Night Lords novels are top notch.
@InquisitorKryptman
Жыл бұрын
@@patricion.3607 ADB is da G
@onionhat745
11 ай бұрын
If we ever get Daemon Primarch Lorgar, I hope he's the best support piece in the game. Buffing his allies and debuffing his enemies is his superpower among the Primarchs.
@phylippezimmermannpaquin2062
2 жыл бұрын
Its moments like this that remind me why I love 40k so much
@milotura6828
2 жыл бұрын
yes
@brentkalmbacher9092
11 ай бұрын
He's .....gone mad. How he speaks, how he refers to all of it. He has gone mad.
@bagman4896
2 жыл бұрын
This is the truest understanding the the warp as I see it, it cannot be so controlled only directed like a Maestro
@attemptedunkindness3632
2 жыл бұрын
Emperor: "Yo, why do you have to talk like a Batman villain?" Lorgar: "Hath not the light deserved it's time it twain wi--"*Is interrupted by Monarchia getting glassed from orbit*
@harmonicajay91
2 жыл бұрын
Me when I first heard this: Wow, that was very poetic, Lorgar... Poetic and fucking insane, you megalomaniac.
@maxducks2001
11 ай бұрын
Man drops one of the hardest Horus Heresy videos and never posts again. What a legend.
@atnasingetnamn2887
8 ай бұрын
1 video and literally nothing else hahah
@alpine7313
2 жыл бұрын
Magnus is slowly eating ruffles chips in the background, trying not to chew too loudly.
@Justadonkey
Жыл бұрын
Just the sound of his voice makes me want to join Chaos
@RIVALBLACKWELL
3 жыл бұрын
Awesome work! You captured the best primarch perfectly. I’d love to see you do the part where Magnus says “you built two abyss ships?” And Lorgar replies “no, I built three”
@Inshabael.
3 жыл бұрын
That would be awesome
@TheHandofDestiny
2 жыл бұрын
That would be awesome
@alricmalicorne321
2 жыл бұрын
I wouldn't say "best"... I mean, the only reason he's not the most hated man in the galaxy is that Erebus exists.
@TheHandofDestiny
2 жыл бұрын
@@alricmalicorne321 He is the best
@DeathSithe92
2 жыл бұрын
you mean the worst primarch.
@xzenitramx666
Жыл бұрын
magnus; 2 weeks ago you didnt know about the warp and now youre a expert.
@afoolofmanyfandoms
Жыл бұрын
Magnus: I need a priest rn… Lorgar: I AM a priest!
@modakkagitplugga
2 жыл бұрын
Always liked his son Argel Tal more, but hot dang if Lorgar wasn't technically right...he just never thought to impact the warp in a different way. In the backwoods theology of 40k where the created create the Divine, he really could have focused in on that and turned the warp into a tool and mirrored deathworld to house the souls of living beings, rather than falling to temptations and peer pressure Faith is a necessary component of humanity. In the end everyone devotes themselves unto something finding their fulfillment in it. Those who don't see it are true slaves to it. Believe there is an old saying, "you can't truly subjugate the willing"
@MrFredstt
Жыл бұрын
To be fair, Lorgar tried that when he was worshipping the Emperor
@nakenmil
2 жыл бұрын
Jonathan Keeble is a fucking legend, dude.
@rystat
2 жыл бұрын
Magnus: “Lorgar, what the fuck are you talking about?”
@thomasdomer6512
Жыл бұрын
Keeble is such an amazing narrator, you can hear the reverence turn to madness in his voice
@leonardluke6
2 жыл бұрын
Jonathan Keeble is such a great voice actor, Hes the reason I love Jack of Blades from Fable so much.
@thomasboys7216
2 жыл бұрын
Oooooh, that was him? Neat!
@yammt3148
Жыл бұрын
"Riggggghhhht... I gotta go make a quick call to Dad, one sec... ." - Magnus
@BoeseFlueche
Жыл бұрын
Magnus: Bro, I just sat down! Who the fuck starts a conversation like that?
@Its_Cannon
9 ай бұрын
Corvus Corax: Yeah, uh-huh, sure buddy. Good luck with that.
@gudboah4688
2 жыл бұрын
This is why Lorgar and Perty are my favorite traitors. Perty carried the traitors militarily. If he stayed during the seige of terra, the traitors would have won. Lorgar, however, planted the seeds of corruption from the beginning, turned Horus towards chaos, and indirectly created the imperial cult, leading to mankind’s technological stagnation. Out of all the traitors, Lorgar was the most dangerous.
@infidelheretic923
11 ай бұрын
Not with the Ultramarines on the way. Plus the Traitors backstabbing each other ensured their ultimate failure.
@robertdefoe2396
2 жыл бұрын
Lorgar needs more, I mean he's the weakest in combat yet he's the one who effectively created The Imperium at present that worships The Emperor as a god and is slowly technologically regressing. Out of anyone, he's done far more damage to the setting than any other character including Horus. Horus only fell because the Word Bearers made it so.
@DeathlyDisease
2 жыл бұрын
He arguably got the most that any Primarch has ever gotten. He won. He got the Imperium he wanted, just as he saw it.
@TheHandofDestiny
2 жыл бұрын
Weakest is not something to describe him anymore
@alshabib5849
2 жыл бұрын
Militarily, its arguably Pertarabo that was the MVP for Chaos during the Heresy. by the end he and the Iron Warriors were the only professional fighting force left.
@BBlueu2
2 жыл бұрын
He's not the weakest. Magnus and Lorgar are among the strongest, they both can augment their abilities beyond the others with their superior warp power, and that was before ascending to Daemonhood.
@mellr0
2 жыл бұрын
@@BBlueu2 Nearing the end of the heresy. He's essentially the poet scholar at the beginning. Pretty much every other primarch has beaten him during the heresy at some point, up until he discovers that Fulgrim is possessed, during which he demonstrates to all the other primarchs that hes so god damned powerful, he could beat any of them.
@Overlordough1201
2 жыл бұрын
"Calth was an act of self defense." Chaos Worshipper
@infidelheretic923
Ай бұрын
No matter how you bend the order of events or the magnitude of one party's actions over the other. Calth was definitely NOT self defense
@strix501
28 күн бұрын
Soft, warm, yet full of passion and charisma, truly fit with lorgar
@Ghost3210
2 жыл бұрын
I love the smell of Ruinstorm in the morning.
@Jenn-lq9yu
10 ай бұрын
Lorgar's been real quiet since Loyalist Crow Daemon Corvus Corax dropped.
@TheHorreK2
2 жыл бұрын
as much as erebus and corferon (definetly spelled that name wrong) were already corrupted/evil, if the Emperor wasnt such an idiot Lorgar would have been the most loyal of his followers, fanatic yes but he would have definetly have his uses. But alas, critical thinking and reasoning isnt a part of the 40k Universe and thats why we love it so much.
@SonsOfLorgar
2 жыл бұрын
Indeed.
@BlackPsionic
2 жыл бұрын
Kor'Phaeron is the name, IIRC. I remember it having an apostrophe in the middle of it somewhere.
@alfatazer_8991
2 жыл бұрын
Abandon reason! Know only war!
@Washeek
2 жыл бұрын
The mon-keigh corpse seer says that he has a plan for everything. Remember the demon spawned vision suffered by Horus? It was the truth. He is not magnanimous as a ruler. The Corpse Emperor is a tyrant and his ascension only proves his malignancy. But He certainly was not an idiot. All part of the plan. And Lorgar chose the wrong Gods to serve. You may say: "But how can this be? The Emperor has refused him! The Lecticio Divinatus was forbidden." All. Part. Of. The. Plan.
@TheHandofDestiny
2 жыл бұрын
Kor Phaeron
@rustystealberg4198
2 жыл бұрын
I want an animated series of the chaos primarchs doing stuff together with this art style. I really like seeing lorgar's theology/philosophy
@Inshabael.
3 жыл бұрын
The Urizen recieves love! Praise Chaos, Let your soul be joyous for the Great Song.
@alpha-1redrighthand829
2 жыл бұрын
Fuck Chaos. Better to die than be a meat puppet by thirsting laughing gods who will throw you away in a second if you do a single thing wrong.
@Inshabael.
2 жыл бұрын
@@alpha-1redrighthand829 At least you got time to do something while it lasted, breathe wrong in front of the commisar and you might as well be sacrifice to chaos.
@TheHandofDestiny
2 жыл бұрын
@@alpha-1redrighthand829 So misguided
@ahmetsamet7428
2 жыл бұрын
Bruh
@mangaka350
2 жыл бұрын
"..... Bruh" Said Magnus in confusion.
@MagnusArchitectOfFate
3 ай бұрын
Can confirm… that was quite a waste of time
@parkermaisterra8532
2 жыл бұрын
Is it weird that out of all the Primarchs that Lorgar probably scares me the most? Most of the Primarch are scary simply because their massive guys in power armor who can turn me into a literal stain with barely a thought. Kurze is higher on the scary list than most because he'll make you suffer unimaginable pain via torture before you die. The Daemon Primarch's are *even higher* because they could grab your immortal soul and "play" with it. But Lorgar would probably send the entire galaxy into the warp, have Daemons eating the souls of literally *every* living being and as the everything becomes a swirling mass of pure chaotic madness he'd give a satisfied smile thinking he's done something good.
@krel3358
2 жыл бұрын
I think Lorgar is the scariest Primarch because of his insane need for faith that he would serve objectively evil gods as long they were "gods" In his own mind faith cant be evil. Its like if you wanted to be an architect and your dad forced you to be a business man and then a satanist said hey Lorgar you can be my architect but the only mortar you can use is the blood of tortured children. To me Lorgar represents the danger of repression and someone coming along and offering you a taste of something you dont even understand like a child being introduced to videogames or candy. I think to Lorgar the idea of building a faith and serving higher powers is like a drug.
@giacomoromano8842
2 жыл бұрын
This is a good point of view, but i don't think that Lorgar just "need" a religion to be happy, and that he could discern between religions and see which one was right and wrong. On the world where he grew, he had visions of the emperor and understood for himself how the watered chaos worship of the planet was inflicting damage and suffering on the people, so he created a better, forgiving and embracing religion through his vision of the Emperor. What brought him towards the chaos gods was the terrifying realisation that his life, belief and all he cared more in the world was a delusion, a trauma caused by the emperor itself. At that point, he was just desperate and in need of something to cling on. So yes, when he became a chaos worshipper, he needed any religion that "existed" at all, but he wasn't always like this.
@johnisaacfelipe6357
2 жыл бұрын
@@giacomoromano8842 that was his flaw, he was a truthseeker born in a world wherein the truths behind the glaring mysteries of the universe were infinitely dark and dangerous
@Dakooties
2 жыл бұрын
Alpharius said in his primarch novel that he thought of all the Primarchs Lorgar would have benefited the most from spending time on Terra instead of him.
@stephenwood6663
2 жыл бұрын
The irony is that Lorgar was happy enough to commit genocide on the Emperor's orders, because he believed the Emperor to be a god. By going out of his way to declare this not to be the case, the Emperor didn't just put Lorgar in a place where he was looking for genuine divine inspiration, he also, in Lorgar's eyes, declared himself to have no just authority over him. The zealotry of the Word Bearers was a problem which needed to be handled, but the Emperor handled it in about the worst possible way he could have done, with neither nuance nor foresight.
@johnisaacfelipe6357
2 жыл бұрын
@@stephenwood6663 I do agree with you but a slight cavaet is that Lorgar was unique amongst the primarchs in that he didn't want to be a general prosecuting a war against other humans. He talked about this with Kor Phaeron where he shows that he detested warfare and bloodshed in equal measure and lamented how the universe had no place for a good philosopher or scholar. He hated bloodshed and cruelty and he had managed to convert one of the most heartless legions (imperial heralds) into one that favors diplomacy, kindness, and peace. (imagine an entire legion of lamenters) Then the censure happened, and Lorgar revived the bloody fatalistic nature of his legion and millions suffered.
@popsiclemoon
2 жыл бұрын
First piece of media to make me consider playing Chaos. Good fuckin' job.
@quangcaodo8864
2 жыл бұрын
That's the good ol' Lorgar charisma to ya
@cjdugan7138
7 ай бұрын
I was of the opinion that I hated lorgar. Then I read the first heretic… and I still do. But holy fuck do I appreciate his character so much more. Truly one of the best written villains in science fiction.
@zanzo-1767
2 жыл бұрын
pure definition of the word "Charisma"
@mcash3
2 жыл бұрын
‘There, a ship burns in Latona’s atmosphere, the cries of the doomed souls echoing into the empyrean. And there, a warship ploughs into the surface of Ulixis, digging its own grave, taking a hundred thousand souls shrieking into the afterlife. Do you hear them dying, Magnus? Do you hear the song shifting in time to their extinguished essences?
@Emperor_Kronk_TheIV
2 жыл бұрын
Magnus: sorry I was thinking about destroying the space wolfs, were you talking about destroying the space wolfs?
@gargoyles9999
2 жыл бұрын
Lorgar: no I was just saying that Corvus is looking edgier than usual and seems to be skulking about. I’m sure it’s nothing
@tigerom2827
2 жыл бұрын
Now we need all epic speeches of others evil daddies And special “Let the Galaxy burn” moment
@dinoduelist2219
2 жыл бұрын
As painfully as ADB can write loyalists good gods can he write chaos
@paulbarton4395
Жыл бұрын
First Heretic and Betrayer are the best but his Night Lords stuff is amazing also, Sevatar is one of the best-written characters in the Heresy
@SS_Psyops
Жыл бұрын
The ADB Chaos material is so good, I wish they’d focus on that over anything else. If more people heard it I believe the game itself would grow much faster than it has. I’ve always thought the Ultra Marines, Imperial Fists, even the Space Wolves were the most boring of all the material. Horus and his legion as well. I prefer characters who are in control and their chosen direction sets the pace and tone of the rest. You have a character as titular as Horus who was initially his fathers first son and showed all the childish jealousy when finding his brothers due to the focus they’d steal from him. So, as what amounts to a minor chaos god doggedly pursues recognition from the emperor like a lap dog… Up until he is warp juiced by a weak delusional legion like the Wordbearers and those idiotic pseudo-gods who with all that power can’t accomplish shit. Then you have his masterful decision (retcon I guess) to basically invite the emperor aboard for a chat as he’s about to win…. Meanwhile the “god emperor” can see the future so well yet the Haunter and the Angel both knew about the future outcomes but he didn’t. They claim the emperor only discovered his plan over a game of regicide but again other characters had known for a century plus what would unfold. What was his grand plan?! Being invited aboard by Horus lololol. This is sort of what I mean and don’t get me started on the plot armor of a select few or basically the entirety of anything with “wolf” in the name. They have an amazing universe with incredible potential but they waste it by focusing on the most boring aspects of it.
@someguy4405
Жыл бұрын
WHY DID THEY GIVE HIM MASTER OF MANKIND WHY
@_easyconcept
8 ай бұрын
The best part is that Magnus is probably just standing there like "What the actual fuck". Explanation: Magnus was still very much loyalist up until the Siege of Terra, He didn't sell his soul and fully join the traitors until after the Siege, literally the only reason he would show up to traitor shit is to see what they were doing.
@louisnall3102
4 ай бұрын
Lorgar Pre Heresy was one of Magnus’s closest friends, along with Jaghatai Khan.
@andrewpandrew7786
2 жыл бұрын
Gamesworkshop could actually make a fucking incredible Horus Heresy series with like 200 episodes if they just got their fucking heads out of their asses. 40k and 30k have endless potential to be incredible across all media yet due to the incompetent higher ups we are left to do it ourselves.
@Noxims47314
2 жыл бұрын
To be fair, if we'd been left in peace and not hit with the copyright-nuke from hell we'd have a growing, blooming IP that many would have flocked to, for better or worse, additionally. we live in the era where Star Wars died from whoring-itself out to the point of no return, and games workshop was all to eager to step into limelight and take its spot....i doubt it would have gone well.
@invntiv
2 жыл бұрын
It boggles my mind how terribly mismanaged their IP has been. I agree, the potential is beyond staggering. Just look at how AWFUL they've done licensing their content for game development. Out of the hundreds of GW based games, theres like 4 or 5 games that are actually worth playing or paying for. They need to join the 21st century and get their heads of of their asses, as you say. I think a large part of it has to do with them being based in the UK. If they had developed some stronger relationships with more high-talent US-based media companies, perhaps they would be able to put out some licensed content that's worth a damn. As for now, I stick to the Audiobooks and the tabletop itself. It's quite telling when fan-based or community-driven content does a better job at capturing the essence of the lore than their own stuff
@m.k.2455
2 жыл бұрын
Simply a beautiful performance of Lorgar's and excellent art to match.
@GentlemanBystander
2 жыл бұрын
Keeble is so unbelievably good. Betrayer should have won awards for the performance.
@bosemanthetopdon
2 жыл бұрын
Magnus: *Slowly steps away*
@Lorgar64
2 жыл бұрын
Lovely work from the narrator. And I like how my eyes come across.
@DewayneMcClure-bm2pj
3 ай бұрын
Me, a massive Word Bearers fan listening to this: "Oh yeah thats right, forgot we were the bad guys for a second."
@Jacob-hc5re
Жыл бұрын
Magnus leaves the room and lorgar keeps going
@EryxUK
3 жыл бұрын
Lorgar. My hero.
@Commissar_Eiven
2 жыл бұрын
But remember he's also a logar hahahahhah
@karljohan2300
10 ай бұрын
masterfully voice acted he really sounds like he finally realised it all and finally saw the path to heaven
@senor_parrot1628
2 жыл бұрын
I honestly hope you do more of these, the art just makes the dialogue so much better
@DeadlyNightshadeZ
Жыл бұрын
Im gonna inflict an immense amount of pain, so I can bring the warp into realspace and cause even more pain. Im gonna make everything awful, for everyone, forever, because I CAN, and I need to prove that I can. Magnus: Uh.....
@MrFredstt
Жыл бұрын
Yeah Lorgar is a zealot to the core. He HAS to worship something and have that worship be acknowledged and rewarded no matter if said deity is evil
@Rhonerin
2 жыл бұрын
Honestly the word bearer / lorgar focused books are probably the best in the horus heresy series. The first heretic was amazing and Betrayer was great!
@paulbarton4395
Жыл бұрын
Agreed
@cantinhodocafe4087
2 жыл бұрын
Fantastic art! So underrated, the world needs to see this!
@bobboberson2736
2 жыл бұрын
This was really good. You did a great job matching Lorgar’s emotions through the animation with The voice actor’s tone
@TheSynthisis
2 жыл бұрын
I had no idea Lorgar was the idea man behind the Fyre Festival.
@uvazhaemiy_tvorozhok
3 жыл бұрын
Masterpiece!
@OEFarredondo
2 жыл бұрын
Idc who you are. Lorgar scares me the most of all the primarchs. He still runs around and skims the surface of chaos and reality
@gargoyles9999
2 жыл бұрын
When he isn’t hiding from Corax
@OEFarredondo
2 жыл бұрын
@@gargoyles9999 longest game of hide and seek
@Inshabael.
2 жыл бұрын
@@gargoyles9999 He is not lmaooo
@semondice4831
Жыл бұрын
One of the most compelling thing about Lorgar and his vision of Chaos Is that he fundamentally KNOWS how deeply corruptive and malicious It is, and yet It exists. There Is a chance that the Emperor Is keeping, or trying to keep, human souls safe from the rest of the warp (for a purpose and not out of mercy, mind you), but it's a fraction of calm waters in an ocean of endless depth and turbolent currents. Of you die there Is no Heaven, there Is no eternal life, no reward for any action, be It evil or otherwise, you just plummet into this maelstrom of raw emotions and powers, consumed and devoured. And in all of this, there ARE Gods. Call them however you want and consider them for the tumorous parasites they are, and yet those are among the few real "divine" entities of the setting. Maybe they are not omnipotent as the gods described in classic religions, but still, they are basically divinities. Terrifying, dark, uncomprehensible and malicious ones, but they exist and exert their will on the afterlife/hyperUranium that Is the Warp. There Is a truth behind this, and wheter you like It or not, wheter you wished for something else or even just nothingness, the Primordial Truth exists.
@hquintanilla2007
2 жыл бұрын
And that’s when Magnus realized he made a big mistake
@devontheundivided9815
2 жыл бұрын
it was either die at the hands of the emperor or live under lorgar's gods.
@rufusruffles
2 жыл бұрын
I just realized that Calth wasnt the vengeance itself, it was the beginning, im reading Battle for Abyss and fucking hell, Lorgar really wanted to crush Ultramar, not just the Ultramarines legion, but the entire realm. They razed Monarchia to the ground.
@TheHandofDestiny
2 жыл бұрын
Lorgar is the guy that is a great person to be on their good side, but he is not someone you want to betray
@kiddknite3999
6 ай бұрын
I’ve watched this a many times and the background music is blissful
@Sidragrosm
2 жыл бұрын
It's not that He (Lorgar) "can't fight," (I've yet to hear if ANY of His 'Mighty Siblings' taking on the likes of An'Raath the Unbound, let alone winning said fight!) or that He's among the Top 5 Psykers in 40K; I'd argue (and have MANY times) that what makes Lorgar The Emperor's MOST dangerous son..? has nothing to do with Martial Ability or Psychic powers, and EVERYTHING to do the ONE Ability He has that is EXACTLY like The Emperor's - He's a Charismatic Leader and Wordsmith; Able to inspire, and compel others where His siblings, those so-called "Noble, Gallant Demi-gods of War" would flounder. I suspect that was why The Emperor was so harsh in his chastisement of Lorgar at Monarchia - He recognized that Lorgar had His gift, (and as The Emperor is Fanatically Militant Atheist, one who despises religious faith) he took said "scolding" too far. (and now, Irony of ironies, it's Lorgar's words, not his own, that run both the Imperium and the Legions of Chaos.) Charismatic Leaders should come with a warning label - and that label..? should have a picture of Lorgar upon it. Nice work by the way. Thanks for posting it.
@LethargicGM
2 жыл бұрын
All the primarchs are crazy charismatic, when the want to be, so he isn't special there. The only thing unique about him among the primarchs us his interest in religion.
@Sidragrosm
2 жыл бұрын
@@LethargicGM They ~could~ be, yes - but not by ANY means to the degree Lorgar did and continues to!. His only REAL rivals in that..? were Guilliman and Horas - and we already KNOW he totally MIND-FUCKED Horas! (Guilliman..? was quite literally his polar opposite, so he wasn't as susceptible.) Inspiring is one thing - Compelling Zealotry to the Nth degree..? Only Big "E" and Lorgar could do that..!
@johnisaacfelipe6357
2 жыл бұрын
@@LethargicGM Lorgar is known to be one of the most charismatic orator amongst the primarchs, he was only tied with Horus when it came to diplomacy and social ability
@Tsunamiieh
Жыл бұрын
Betrayer is the best HH book it's narrated so well in the audio book too, think i have listened to it 5-6 times over the years
@UrbanArmada
Жыл бұрын
ADBs books are fantastic, I haven't read one I disliked yet.
@Tsunamiieh
Жыл бұрын
@@UrbanArmada all his chaos stuff is nice, his loyalist i'm not too keen on
@doomguy19931
2 жыл бұрын
This video has made me finally have an ounce of respect for Lorgar
@MrLeaman232
Жыл бұрын
This is exactly how I imagine Lorgar's voice. Pure butter to my ears.
@grantkruger3689
2 жыл бұрын
Magnus, to whoever hasn't run away yet: "Yeah, he's fuckin' crazy."
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