It's clear that what really makes a car special isn't just its engine or aesthetics, but the memories and emotions it invokes. What's the one car under 100k that you think strikes the perfect balance between thrill, style, and reliability? 👍
@savagegeese
5 ай бұрын
Murano Cross Cabriolet
@Mo.Jo.
5 ай бұрын
@@savagegeese 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@joe718gt4
5 ай бұрын
@savagegeese unfortunately he said UNDER 100K 😢
@DeanTrivi
5 ай бұрын
ND Miata. Nothing comes close.
@patthonsirilim5739
5 ай бұрын
Toyota GR supra MT yes i know its pretty much a bmw cosplaying as a jdm car but here me out the car is quite faithfull to the mk4 formula inline 6 turbo front engine rear wheel drive 6 speed manual and is very agile and agressive in its handaling its probally one of the best enthusiast product out today plus its 60k anything that tick as much box as this car are 100k and over maybe the Z but it far less superior and the mustang but that quite heavy car.
@challacustica9049
4 ай бұрын
Lotus is what we need more of today. Lightweight, no BS sports cars with clean looks. I'm really rooting for them to succeed with this, even if I couldn't or wouldn't buy it.
@Jay-xr3sb
4 ай бұрын
Not light.
@electric_boogaloo496
4 ай бұрын
Lightweight compared to a C8, but not compared to a 981 or a 718.
@Jay-xr3sb
4 ай бұрын
@@electric_boogaloo496 comparable to a cayman in weight, but a fair bit wider. Not a traditional lotus, that would be an alpine a110.
@theapplepaul
4 ай бұрын
My daily weighs 3,117 lbs. And holds four adults with legs. Tons of storage.Has awesome seats and a world class manual. For a 1/3 of the price. So not impressed. ...and yet the Lotus is pure eye candy, and has the mid engine, rwd magic. So still very glad they built it. It is special. If I had room it would be keeping my Type R company.
@JamesJoyce12
4 ай бұрын
my 1970 911S weighs in at just over 1,000 Kgs - this is not light
@rmantena5954
5 ай бұрын
Man when I had the evora gt, the handling and steering communication was unmatched.
@fastboy177
5 ай бұрын
Got to drive one off turo for a day and I have to say everything I had read about it was true. So glad to not have my dream car spoiled when I finally got to drive it. Now, I just wait for the day I can own one
@andrewrossnagel9433
5 ай бұрын
Steering is amazing. But unless you have the right roads near you then you get bored of the power( or lack there of) very quickly. That and the dealership experience is what kept me from keeping my deposit
@moneyshift8190
5 ай бұрын
How was your experience reliability wise? Always interested in the Evora
@andrewrossnagel9433
5 ай бұрын
@@moneyshift8190you will have a lot of little issues that will either drive you crazy or you'll live with them comfortably. Some people think a cars reliability is based on the engine but until they own a lotus they will never appreciate how horrific British electronics are. If you don't have a dealer close to you then you better be really comfortable wrenching on it yourself. Also important mention Lotus will immediately terminate your warranty if they see mods. They also monitor the forums so keep that in Mind. I believe they own emiraforums. One of their reps knew who I was and knew all my posts, it was quite strange. I recommend driving one because they're fantastic but they're definitely not for everyone.
@2010ngojo
5 ай бұрын
They really need to tune the hp to at least 430 like the previous models. It's the last ice car from lotus, they have to make it special.
@practicaldriver
5 ай бұрын
Jacks final fudge at the end is amazing 😆
@woodchuckles47
5 ай бұрын
Literally went ape shit
@super8mate
5 ай бұрын
He's celebrating that it was a good take, right?
@infidel900rr
5 ай бұрын
I think he’s upset it wasn’t all positive.
@axiomic
4 ай бұрын
@@infidel900rr definitely. We all wanted this car to be perfect, to be the one to have. But it's still a compromise like all Lotus' seem to be in one way or another....
@vinhngo1894
5 ай бұрын
My shop is located next to Earth MotorCars which is an authorized Lotus dealer. And man I will tell you, the Emira really does invoke that emotional response, outside and inside.
@tranc3porter
5 ай бұрын
In a world where logic and rationality doesn't exist, I'd be driving this car instead of my C7. Absolutely love everything about it.
@rondail5675
5 ай бұрын
The Lotus is beautiful, unique, and fun. But the C7 and C8 are cheaper to buy and maintain, and there is a dealership usually within 10 miles. The C7 is amazing for looks, interior, powertrain, cost to maintain. Enjoy looking at the Lotus but smile sitting in your C7.
@bicboi1930
5 ай бұрын
Do you love a 6 cylinder? I couldn't justify spending that much for anything less than 8cyl. Just feels and sounds much more special.
@tranc3porter
5 ай бұрын
@@bicboi1930 I hear you on that. My last three cars all had V8s. I think the Emira has a pretty sweet sounding six though. The driving experience also seems to warrant the cost. 6-cylinder aside, it's a rather special car.
@Promit
5 ай бұрын
I went from a C7GS to an Evora GT. It cost me a lot of money but I have no regrets. Well except for the regret of track day insurance costs.
@willramirez75
5 ай бұрын
Only a commie would give up a reliable American classic for some Eurotrash clickbait
@deanchur
5 ай бұрын
"It'd be better with a B58" - Jack (probably)
@dielaughing73
5 ай бұрын
Jack definitely
@vindevhunta4905
5 ай бұрын
Naah This Motor Is way more reliable
@Steve_Jaz
5 ай бұрын
@@vindevhunta4905 you stupid? The b58 is one of the most reliable engines of all time and won awards for the design and capabilities.
@andrewrossnagel9433
5 ай бұрын
@@vindevhunta4905reliable? Maybe. Better? Not even close on any metric
@tinhinnh
5 ай бұрын
prob not enough room
@MostlyHuman
5 ай бұрын
Very much looking forward to your comparison of the Emira vs. Cayman GTS 4.0!
@LedNe0nDevil
4 ай бұрын
I wouldn't care which is faster. Which is nimbler ?!?!? Which is more communicative?!!??!
@AdamMarcello
5 ай бұрын
I test drove the Emira and a 718 GTS and put my deposit down on the Emira. The 718 is a great car but the manual wasn't a strong point. The rev matching takes the rewarding aspect away and the gears were very mismatched to the engine IMO. I don't think you'd ever see the top of 2nd gear outside a track environment and certainly wont make use of the top end of anything after. I'm not planning to use the Emira as a daily. Its a second car and for me that emotional fun factor scores higher in the weighting.
@bearclaw5115
5 ай бұрын
Yes, the gearing is just killing those cars. They had some garbage excuse but it's bs, we all know Porsche could do better.
@TheHoosiers2008
5 ай бұрын
For some reason I just cannot get over the profile of the cayman. It just seems to have a feminine demeanor…and yes I would happily take a GT4 RS.
@judgedeath2614
5 ай бұрын
You know you can disable rev matching right? And not sure what you drove but the manual in my GTS 4.0 is an absolute treat to drive.
@m1l3s27
5 ай бұрын
It's really not bs, it has to do with noise levels. They measure manual cars different from autos and it really penalizes them. Porsche is not the only long gear manual offender, but being one of the few remaining who makes manuals is oft singled out. @@bearclaw5115
@kabob21
5 ай бұрын
@@judgedeath2614 He meant that the gear ratios are too tall and he’s right they are but at least in the 2.5 turbo flat-4 the torque band is so wide you can shift most anywhere in the rev range for fun. I also installed the GT4 short shifter in mine to take out the rubberiness and now it’s as perfect as it can get 👍
@sorinsim
5 ай бұрын
The production value of these videos is exceptional! On par with Jay Leno's car channel. Bravo!
@hrhgalaxy
5 ай бұрын
I do appreciate you both taking the additional time to get the engineering/technical tidbits. And even though I enjoyed every minute of it, the summary really solidified the expectations one should approach this beautiful yet not perfect car. Thanks for all you do.
@aurorajones8481
5 ай бұрын
Prior LC500 owner ive wanted this car but never actually had the blessing. But i think both cars are equally sexy.
@VetteMaro86
5 ай бұрын
Prior? ! The LC500 is so new and I still think about buying one. Curious to know what you drive currently?
@LucasFR11
5 ай бұрын
LC500 was pure bliss on longer drives... Get one if you don't need to go to the track or really tight mountain roads.
@SelimxBradley
5 ай бұрын
what does "had the blessing" mean?
@joeracer302
5 ай бұрын
@@SelimxBradley they’ve never had the opportunity/experience of owning one
@joeracer302
5 ай бұрын
@@VetteMaro86 they’ve sold the LC500 for over 6 years now, plenty of time for people to own/lease/sell.
@483SGT
5 ай бұрын
The whistles go woo woo
@scotchbingeington6761
5 ай бұрын
Needs the Bubb Rubb treatment. D O U B L E W H I S T L E
@AM-uk7jv
5 ай бұрын
That's only in the morning. You're supposed to be up cooking breakfast or something by then so, that's like an alarm clock. WOOOOOOO WOOOOOOOOOOO
@LS3ftw15
5 ай бұрын
Yeah I got it on my car
@zachplaysdrums
5 ай бұрын
Thassit an thassall
@dxcheong
5 ай бұрын
Definitely not the comment I was expecting in 2024 😂
@xuizhen9241
5 ай бұрын
Already done 23,000 km on my Emira for one year. Love it.
@SubduedKai
4 ай бұрын
94J8D❤
@Scorcher-ii1ty
4 ай бұрын
Already did 40,000 on my Dark Horse. 500 hp. V8
@callummcintyre1877
3 ай бұрын
Did you have any issues/repairs?
@Dr23rippa
3 ай бұрын
How did you buy it?
@xuizhen9241
3 ай бұрын
@@Dr23rippa I'm in China lol. Bought it last year
@adk7962
5 ай бұрын
Always worth it to finish the video… God bless you Gents.
@billiondollardan
4 ай бұрын
I love the way the Emira looks. It's amazing
@jpve76
4 ай бұрын
Possibly the best looking car under 250k
@PaulEttridge
4 ай бұрын
Really enjoyed the video. Thanks. I’ve had my Emira (in the UK) since last September. Perhaps it’s because I picked it up at the factory, but It’s been faultless in every way. I was convinced it would let me down somehow, but not so far. I now have that Lotus experience combined with 100% confidence, and that’s a great feeling. Can’t believe I still watch KZitem videos for the car after I got it- that’s never happened before!😀
@RockMiach
5 ай бұрын
Looking forward to the track comparison with 718. Great video.
@andrewmcclellan1850
5 ай бұрын
Have a new 2024 Emira driven 1100mile zero issues, love the car!
@drumnbass8
4 ай бұрын
What a beautifully shot video, especially the intro great job
@willbobig
5 ай бұрын
I have been saying this for sometime, but I feel that the Evora and now Emira are a better representation of the NSX that we have grown to love. Acura / Honda just had to replicate something not too distant from these Lotus in order to captivate our hearts again, but went off into a completely new direction with the latest (2017+) iteration.
@kentwright5346
Ай бұрын
Exige S owner; bought new in 2007 as a street car with no A/C or any options that didn't make it faster. Zero problems. None. Infinite fun times. A key thing with Lotus is to follow Chapman's advice of "adding lightness". This also brings simplicity and reliability. The understeer built into the Exige was eliminated with some front upright machining commonly performed on track and street cars. After that, it is a car like no other.
@danieltackett4089
5 ай бұрын
Excellent video! Great analysis and honest final thoughts. I was cross-shopping the Emira and a Cayman GTS 4.0. Since the Cayman is in its final production year, it was now or never to order one to my spec. I want a second car for occasional track use, canyon runs, and future road trips. I’m glad I bought the Cayman for its build quality, relative reliability (and dlr network when away from home), bespoke Porsche engine, and practical luggage space. The driving experience is 95% of the Lotus (or maybe better?) and the interior is a generation older, but thank you for reinforcing my decision. Looking forward to the comparo video.
@marcosvaldes8910
3 ай бұрын
You hit it on the nail! This is my assessment as well. As an owner of the 981S, I love how fun my Cayman is and the reliability factor. My next logical move would be a GTS 4.0 or a preowned Emira after all the corks are figured out
@Gtstreet84
5 ай бұрын
Man, you guys are awesome. You’re just killing your niche in reviews and honestly your videos are just really refreshing to watch.
@gmund317
5 ай бұрын
Absolutely stunning car! Gorgeous!! But there is no way I could bear that supercharger whine. Cayman GTS for me...
@vindevhunta4905
5 ай бұрын
In this EV era That supercharger sound it awesome..seem you are not a true car person…
@Jay-xr3sb
5 ай бұрын
981 S/gts for me, need to feel like a kid in a race car for a little longer
@Contractor815
4 ай бұрын
@@vindevhunta4905 Some people don't like the sound of turbos and superchargers (raises hand). I definitely prefer my engines naturally aspirated.
@vindevhunta4905
4 ай бұрын
@@Contractor815 fair enough
@TexasRiverRat31254
4 ай бұрын
Thanks for waiting until near the end to throw in the ads and making them brief. Excellent as always guys!
@aceofspades6667
5 ай бұрын
As an ND2 owner I would love to tuoro one of these someday. But I love owned the nd2 for about 3 years now with 60k miles. I beat the piss out of it and not so much as a check engine light. The reliability and low maintenance cost I’d just insane. I understand the lotus is better in nearly every objective driving category I just don’t think i could buy one even if in the budget.
@viscountslappy5085
5 ай бұрын
Especially when you could get multiple ND's for the price of one of these. Get the same feeling every time I look at vintage British sports cars, and then realize I have an NB in the garage.
@Rick1984FL
5 ай бұрын
I had an evora GT and now I have a nd2 rf (needed to buy a house) and while the GT was a unique car I was always nervous something serious was going to break on it having the nearest lotus dealer literally hours away… meanwhile I drive the nd2 and have no worries just smiles knowing ultimately it’s “just” a Mazda… and I have one of those dealers worst case 15 minutes from my house.
@joeracer302
5 ай бұрын
@@viscountslappy5085 My BIL and sister have had multiple Miata’s while also owning Lotus, Jaguar, Aston, etc. so apparently it’s possible to own multiple Miatas and also own Lotus …
@shortstories3349
5 ай бұрын
@@viscountslappy5085 And the craziest thing is that you could have multiple Miata's and each one setup with it's own unique drivetrain with how plentiful the aftermarket support is; and probably still stay under what the Emira costs. The Emira does look sublime though.
@alb9022
5 ай бұрын
did you just butcher a third of your texts?
@HdHd-hp6qz
4 ай бұрын
Bang for buck this is the best sports car on the market imo
@paisis123
5 ай бұрын
Hey Guys, I have a 2020 Lotus Evora GT that I put so far 92,000 miles on it since buying it new 3 years ago. I still daily it as my ONLY car. Love Lotus as a brand, but aftermarket, and support in general has always been a hit or miss. The forums are filled with very enthusiastic people to help with the little issues that WILL show up. I think you convinced me to go ahead and get the Emira as the new daily.
@JamieHarvey-h8l
4 ай бұрын
Self professed car guy - obsessed with R35 GTR and car related content from way back - This one is amazing. I was blown away by the transparency, editing, content and delivery. More please. Come drive a slightly modified R35 GT-R from the far north to bluff and back in NZ - a life changing drive. You guys are good at what you do
@ingaz6565
5 ай бұрын
For a car that starts at 99k this is very special. Easily looks like a 200k car and to the untrained eye would look like a direct competitor to a Mclaren or Ferrari. Lotus has come a long way.
@Rocket9944
5 ай бұрын
I disagree , 99k and up is a lot of money for a tiny car with a V6, yes it looks good but I think it's overpriced.
@TheRandomMichael
5 ай бұрын
@@Rocket9944 yep Z06 would probably beat this car at everything for just a little more. If you don't mind buying used there are a lot of options under 100k, including what I would pick up, a V10 Gallardo.
@ksegg_ffs
5 ай бұрын
Looks like a $70K car to me.
@Sashazur
5 ай бұрын
@@ksegg_ffsYou probably haven’t priced new cars lately!
@thedudeabides1443
4 ай бұрын
Looks like a $70-80k car, overpriced at $99k. Not even in the same category as McLaren, much less Ferrari. And for a little more than $200k you are in older Porsche GT3 territory which is a better car by a mile in all regards. Other than that, I agree with you.
@tombuckley91
3 ай бұрын
I bought a GT86 10 years ago and I watched all of your series on that car, where you delightfully compared to a cheeseburger. I bought the Emira last July, and with great trepidation I clicked the thumbnail. Really glad you like it, I had it round Anglesey (a great little track on this side of the pond) and it was an absolute blast. I think you guys already said it, in an event that was dominated by GT4 RS’s, 911’s, and even some GT3’s, everyone commented on how special the little Lotus was.
@pompulousify
5 ай бұрын
I had an Evora 400 - and dealing with the BS fit and finish issues made me never want to get a Lotus again. The driving experience is phenomenal - but if I ever get a pricey fun car again it will for sure be a Porsche as you don't have those issues.
@gazman9468
4 ай бұрын
As a Porsche owner this saddens me. I feel like Lotus have always been on the cusp of producing something to rival the Cayman/Boxster and yet even after all the investment it still isn't quite there. I really hope Lotus get it right before this model disappears entirely as we now know it's the last of its kind.
@SSRstudio
4 ай бұрын
i own and Evora 400 - reliabble and easy car to fix, while Porsche problems can cost a fortune - especially things like the new engine
@chasejohnson6587
4 ай бұрын
Also owned an Evora 400. I loved the car under 8/10ths (road use), but couldn't quite get along with it as expected on track. From my experience with multiple events, the front end (with the factory Bilstein dampers), wasn't as transparent and sure-footed under threshold braking and turn-in. If I had plenty of garage space, I would've kept the Evora as a street-only weekend car. Given limited garage space, my fun car(s) need to strike an optimal balance between street and track use. Bought a 981 Cayman S to replace the Lotus and it's much better on track but less fun, less of an occasion, on public roads. My M2C, on the other hand, is a blast on public roads but is heavier, worse on consumables, and requires more modification to hold up to extended sessions on track. Tradeoffs!
@fzr1000981
4 ай бұрын
Hopefully Lotus sorts out more of the issues, buying the first year is risky. I heard they are shutting down 2025 production though?
@wass006
4 ай бұрын
These guys are the best American reviewers, they are sophisticated guys. Not the typical over excited American.
@jpve76
4 ай бұрын
They are Canadian.
@KZ-se4ik
5 ай бұрын
Damn, Jack going deep with the Blade/Kris Kristoferson reference. Respect
@onethousandtwonortheast8848
3 ай бұрын
We’re going to test drive an Emira tomorrow. I feel like this video has me educated enough to manage expectations and make a decision that’s balanced with our situation and needs. We will see what happens.
@GadgetyMV
5 ай бұрын
Odd that Lotus owner Geely doesn't utilize one of their other brand's dealer network for after sales support, which it will be needing.
@Spoolingturbski
5 ай бұрын
They will be able to go to some Volvo dealers
@karacha
5 ай бұрын
They should absolutely try to go through Volvo. There are some nice interior elements by Volvo in there too. :)
@benjamindoyle668
4 ай бұрын
@@karacha Yes there are! Came here to see if anyone had noticed!
@sweatpantsclub
5 ай бұрын
You guys (yet again) knocked it out of the park with this analysis. Amazing level of information and video content. Kudos.
@dannoyes4493
5 ай бұрын
Fantastic review of a fantastic car. Idiot light? Who's the idiot? Crummy stereo? I'm partially deaf. Wind noise? Compared to what? a convertible? Love it. Well Done. P.S. - I had no idea the Lotus Evija EV weighs 2,000,000 lbs.!
@RealAvus
5 ай бұрын
This car is more "1st gen NSX" than the NSX (2nd gen) Light weight, RWD, manual, easy to look out, easy to drive, not win by hp - a true 1st gen NSX spiritual successor.
@EvoraGT430
5 ай бұрын
It's a Mark 3 Evora, basically.
@2010ngojo
5 ай бұрын
Nsx is not suppose to be the same old stuff. Literally in name to be different or experimental.
@qx4n9e1xp
5 ай бұрын
@@2010ngojoThan the World Rally eXpiriment has long forgotten that meaning 😂 (unless the "sport" CVT is their experiment)
@actionfaction2558
5 ай бұрын
Right. I began to seriously look at this car when I realized the 2nd Gen NSX started way above my price point and the first gens were also too pricey. Plus Lotus history of driver focus aided this decision.
@2010ngojo
5 ай бұрын
@@qx4n9e1xp Yeah, Subaru lost it's innovation when Mitsubishi pulled the Evo out of the market. Maybe even before then.
@ystebadvonschlegel3295
4 ай бұрын
I pre-ordered one of these, put my deposit down, waited over 3 years checking almost daily on the Emira forums. After lengthly delays, slow 0-60 performance and a test drive that did put a big smile on my face but quality concerns went up - I canceled and bought a Z4. The emira is no doubt a much more beautiful car, but I love the convertible and I’d rek the Emira on the streets where I drive. For a pure weekend car - get one. The mid engine supercharger sound is a hell of a lot of fun. For a primary car, I would advise looking elsewhere based on my experience.
@zoner__
4 ай бұрын
Congrats Z4 is a great car
@Roddy451
5 ай бұрын
No denying, IMHO, this is Lotus' best-looking car since the Esprit. It is that reliability thing that keeps me away from this brand. The C8 reminds me of the Alfa Romeo Milano. From the rear 3/4 view, it has a bit of that "a-crash-tested-car-that-has-already-been-crash-tested" look (aka Alfa Romeo Milano look). Still, I would go for the C8-after a priest blesses the transmission, of course. P.S. I can't believe I wrote Milano and was able to keep a straight face.
@17forever64
5 ай бұрын
It’s a beautiful car, but. I’m so over having a sports car that has issues. There are to many options out there now where you don’t have to deal with little problems all of the time. Then again, I have owned several Porsche’s and had many similar issues, I would never own one again. Interesting that you stated that the Porsche engine was more reliable than a Toyota engine, I don’t agree with that at all. Maybe the added super charger changes it, but I’m not sure. Great video and I’m glad you guys are finally getting the views you deserve. Your the best on the internet!
@andoletube
5 ай бұрын
Tend to agree. If this engine is unreliable, it's the induction system, not the Toyota V6.
@spireland5
5 ай бұрын
Part of me really wants to own a Lotus, but I just couldn't deal with the pain points. C8 is just such an easy car to live with.
@redcars72
3 ай бұрын
I definitely don't align with their comment that the C8 is fugly, I actually like the proportions of the C8 more than the Emira.
@Docinaplane
4 ай бұрын
Excellent review! I did a test drive with the Emira when it was first available in the US. I had a supercharged NSX at the time. I felt the NSX was a better car performance wise, so I did not get the Emira. However, the NSX was getting pretty old and so I got a Lotus Evora GT. I like the analog raw driver's car nature of it. That blew the NSX away. To top it off, I then dyno tuned mine to 504bhp and 403lbft of torque. That is a serious performing car. Yes, the view out the front of the NSX is better. My car is what Honda should have made as the new NSX in 2017.
@AntoniusTyas
5 ай бұрын
Erm... actually the chassis is very much the same with Evora, save for some ported holes for new electronics. The track width and wheelbase length are pretty much the same as Evora, which is weird for a car that was supposed to be 100% brand new. Don't take it as a criticism towards the Emira, though. Sharing the same backbone as one of the best driver's car ever made is no bad thing. I just wish Lotus would iron out the reliability issues.
@sgreensdlintl
4 ай бұрын
Yeah, it's a joke that it's pretty obvious it's essentially the same car but people are willing to roll out the Lotus line of 'all new' as you say, that's not an issue but don't peddle the bull...
@skywalk3x
5 ай бұрын
I remember when it was announced and it was going to be $80K. Then it was released at $100k+. It has problems that other channels highlighted. Glad I didn’t put money down on it because it doesn’t matter how good It looks if you can’t drive it without problems.
@Rclrs5
5 ай бұрын
I had a deposit on one a while and so glad I cancelled to get my gt4. The price increase, delays, and now hearing all the issues people are having despite 2+ years of production delays indicate I made the right choice.
@marlongreen8567
5 ай бұрын
I was waiting for these two to review this car! They always cover all the major areas of what makes a car desirable in its "category"! Such a beautiful timeless vehicle!
@juniormeghji2551
5 ай бұрын
Now that California finally allowed Lotus to start giving out allocations to buyers like me to get their Lotus I'm happy. California really fucked up the delivery times for this car. As soon as I heard about this car I drove downtown Toronto to Gentry Lane and met with George and speced my allocation. Gave my deposit and have been waiting for the call that I'll be taking delivery of my Lotus soon. I have my Aston Martin DB9 Volante that I use for road trips to Niagara or Montreal, my FD rx7 for track days when I want to go 10/10ths and really push it. But this will be my everyday fun car to and from to work and Sundays to enjoy the back roads. Ever since I got a ride in my uncle's Lotus Esprit V8 turbo when I was 10 I wanted a Lotus. You don't buy a Lotus to say you have the fastest car in the group. Just like I didn't buy the Aston to say I have a faster grand tourer. It's emotional.
@fzr1000981
4 ай бұрын
Single turbo FD? Dyno?
@questioner1596
5 ай бұрын
If I had the money I'd be super interested; softer suspension actually makes it faster on-road by gripping better over bumps. However, it's hard to financially justify over an MX-5 or BR-Z/FRS/86. Too bad there's no more MR2 in NA.
@thepilotist7297
4 ай бұрын
The real spiritual successor to the original NSX
@getthecats
4 ай бұрын
Nah
@EvoraGT430
3 ай бұрын
That was the Evora.
@pramey
5 ай бұрын
my fav car reviewer reviews my fav car design rn WOOOO!
@kaileysweeney4240
5 ай бұрын
I’m a Pisces. This is my dream car. Hope they develop a version with a removable roof.
@getdealtwithquick
5 ай бұрын
Same. Unfortunately, I read somewhere that Lotus already confirmed they won't make one. Sad face.
@BaileyWiggebutt
5 ай бұрын
What does being a Pisces matter? Or am I missing something? I’m a Pisces too 😊 I tried to buy one in 2021 but couldn’t get my hands on one at the time. I ended up getting something different.
@_VelociDad
4 ай бұрын
I can’t believe this is the last ICE Lotus. You can’t “add lightness” to a EV. The brand will never be the same, but the Emira is quite the send off!
@MohammedAso-lg5vr
5 ай бұрын
the stains on the upper door panel at 14:42 are sus
@Ian-oe9wp
5 ай бұрын
sussy geese
@dougrobinson8602
5 ай бұрын
@@Ian-oe9wp Beef 'N Cheddar?
@savagegeese
5 ай бұрын
Beef and white cheddar does not come off that leather.
@MohammedAso-lg5vr
5 ай бұрын
@@savagegeese bars
@Gorilla_Jones
5 ай бұрын
@@savagegeese we need taco hat back!
@subnegro4946
5 ай бұрын
The best looking car starting under 100k I would say of all time!!!
@wrappinbeats7588
5 ай бұрын
I salute anyone that makes the decision to get an Emira over a GTS 4.0, I think it’s a bold choice. When it came to my money though, this might be my forever car and the issue that was pointed out with Lotus was reliability and dealer network. How are things going to look in 5 years, 10 years? When Lotus goes fully electric will they be able to service the internal combustion cars still? With Porsche’s investments into alternative fuels and pledge to keep ICE and manuals around for as long as they can, that ultimately swung my decision. If you can put up with issues, do service yourself/have a trusted shop, and/or are planning on keeping the car shorter term, I think the Lotus makes a lot of sense!
@RA22475
5 ай бұрын
Lotus isn’t going to be around in 10 years.
@wrappinbeats7588
5 ай бұрын
@@RA22475 bingo that’s the fear
@TassieLorenzo
4 ай бұрын
@@RA22475 Geely is a reasonably large auto conglomerate. Lotus will only disappear if Volvo, Polestar, Lynk & Co, London Taxi Cab Company (!), and so on also disappear. Which is possible of course, but Geely want a brand in their portfolio to have that Maserati/Porsche positioning, and that's Lotus.
@anthonye1028
5 ай бұрын
Lotus has a tough road ahead as a purely EV company. I don't think they're going to make it.
@Zobeid
4 ай бұрын
Well. . . My 2010 Tesla Roadster, which I adore, and which was in fact assembled by Lotus (as a "glider" and then Tesla installed the power train), is showing its age, and I am watching all my options for its replacement. I'd love to see Lotus come through. It gives me optimism that they're going all-in, not trying to develop an EV as some half-baked side project.
@djgoldthing7166
5 ай бұрын
It's good to see savagegeese excited to review this special car. I hope Lotus don't switch to battery only. I can see that being the end of an era.
@claywhitehead8176
5 ай бұрын
Love seeing some Sabbath as the music choice! 🤘🤘🤘
@davidhunternyc1
5 ай бұрын
At 2:01, the infotainment screen already looks old and like an afterthought. It would've been nice if Lotus integrated the screen into the dash, like on Audis.
@ouch9326
4 ай бұрын
acording to bfsc chart 2/3 pedal down 2k-3k rpm is most effceint , but in sport mode, eco mode, or normal mode?
@hbullock
5 ай бұрын
Nice review. A special car, but I’m not feeling the front bonnet slats or the supercharger whine. And I’m US, so lack of service is a deal breaker. My main question…when are you reviewing the Porsche spyder rs? 😎
@brianhighers4587
5 ай бұрын
I primarily bought a 2021 Evora based on SG's earlier video on the same. I loved the car and kept it 3 years without any issues. 2 or 3 track days and local spirited driving. I loved the fact that it was no compromise between comfort and sport. I sold it and bought a 718 Spyder just to try something different. The Spyder is great, but I still miss that Evora. With a decat pipe that card sounded great and the fact that I 'couldn't' hear the supercharger except on occasion was a bonus. It felt like a NA engine with that linear power delivery. I know I am in the minority, but I truly hate the way that supercharger sounds on the Emira. Everyone would put CAIs on Evora to elicit that sound and I never understood it. On the track portion of this video I had to check to ensure I hadn't switched over to the C8 E-ray video and it's ridiculous Tron sound.
@jeffreysalzman1497
5 ай бұрын
It's. just. SO. damned. pretty! I can tell you, if I could afford this car, I certainly wouldn't mind a noisy window rubber or some HVAC glitches. I'd be as happy as a two peckered tom cat just driving this Lotus.
@DarkClosetOfTheMind
4 ай бұрын
You guys always do such a great job reviewing and presenting.
@jubbalandcars
5 ай бұрын
Loved the video and itching to take mine to the track. Agreed on it giving way to understeer much more readily than the Porsche despite double wishbone up front Sport suspension surprisingly compliant and is great for canyon carving and driving around town. Touring too soft and gives up too much front end sharpness. Agreed on it being fun even when driving slow.
@darrena4048
5 ай бұрын
Can't you just dial the understeer out with some after market parts? Anti-roll bar, or more camber up front?
@grantrainey4200
5 ай бұрын
I was wondering if I’d find you in the comments lol. hey doc! I’m surprised you were willing to forgive the under steer as such a rwd/steering fanatic. But I guess the feedback and ability to fix aftermarket makes it worth for you.
@TassieLorenzo
4 ай бұрын
@@darrena4048 Just uprate the spring and/or shock rate in the REAR end? Sway bar only works mid-corner, whereas stiffer damping/wheel rate helps on initial turn-in too. Unfortunately most aftermarket springs and shocks also lower the car, it's hard to find ones that are uprated but keep the OE ride height. Edit -- Sorry I said front end at first, I got confused.
@markmartin7384
4 ай бұрын
Im sold on the looks alone. One of the best looking cars to come out in last 10 years
@ForgetfulFoot
5 ай бұрын
981 Cayman owner here (former 987.2, NC3, ND and S2000 owner). I wish I was wealthy enough to get a new GTS 4.0, GT4 or Emira. But I just don't think I could risk committing to the Emira as my only car like I can the Cayman etc. Its just too risky. And honestly. I would give a 4C a go before this.
@fastboy177
5 ай бұрын
I love the 4C too but reliability is even worse and the interior is even more of a joke than the Evora's was (I say that as the Evora is my dream car). I think the Cayman would probably be the better daily or "only" car, but the lotus is just so special. The Evora GT I drove from turo for a day put everything else I've ever driven to shame as far as driver involvement, and I daily an s2000.
@BurnsRubber
5 ай бұрын
Just got my 981 CS last year. Had an allocation for new GTS 4.0 but passed on it after acquiring my 981 while waiting for my allocation. Is the GTS 4.0 really that much better? I didn’t think so. The 981 sounds much better. The 4.0 makes more power but they are otherwise the same cars. My next upgrade will be a GT3.
@clinth4891
5 ай бұрын
The 4c is by far the most fun on the road, it’s a absolute riot but definitely not a first or second car maybe a 3rd car
@racesuey
5 ай бұрын
981 has the worst feedback on modern sports car steering.
@ForgetfulFoot
5 ай бұрын
@racesuey the steering feel argument is so overblown. Every cars steering feels different as soon as you hop in. But once you adapt. I swear the only time you feel the difference with hydraulic is at ten tenths or if you're at a really high speed.
@d.nakamura9579
5 ай бұрын
very thoughtful, insightful commentary. Thanks!
@boostedmedia
5 ай бұрын
Yaaaas!!! Been waiting for this one ;)
@kevincockburn7805
5 ай бұрын
Another great video. The dryness of the the revuews is so refreshing conpared to a lot of other iver the top youtube reviews. This channel and Harrys Garage are gold standard youtube car channels.
@jire9831
5 ай бұрын
While it looks great on paper I'm not sure if it's worth the hassle of having to deal with dealership issues. For my money (of which there is none) it's going to be the Porsche.
@EvoraGT430
3 ай бұрын
You and 95% of people, sadly.
@stevezilla68
5 ай бұрын
Why can't the Corvette look this good??
@svn5994
5 ай бұрын
@twinturboray C5 is ugly.
@cbotten106
5 ай бұрын
Because the Corvette needs (and by needs I mean absolutely requires) a trunk that will accommodate a golf club bag. They start with that and engineer out from there. Lawyers and plastic surgeons need golf accommodations on toys.
@brq44
5 ай бұрын
@twinturborayC6 looks better than the C5 imo
@TML34
5 ай бұрын
Golf clubs
@stevezilla68
5 ай бұрын
@@cbotten106 I understand that, but a wide trunk doesn't explain the tacky exterior styling. I wish the Corvette borrowed more from the old CERV3.
@marekd.7350
4 ай бұрын
I'm contemplating buying Jack an extra washing machine just to keep that hoodie with the "Gulf" logo alive forever. I love it Jack!
@gbarton800
5 ай бұрын
Emira owner… 300 miles of break in and no drivability issues, only cosmetic and fitment issues but still glad I bought it. The issues should soon be resolved with a trip to the dealership.
@SuperBudfox
Ай бұрын
The car doesn’t require a break-in
@RyanSheppard
4 ай бұрын
Thanks to Patagonia for another great video
@TheSpread1
5 ай бұрын
I picked mine up Saturday. I love it, but it has swirls all over the paint like its been washed improperly multiple times already. I will be following up on that today.
@yareyare74
5 ай бұрын
Is it a new car? That's unfortunate to hear bro. Hopefully it gets fixed soon.
@TheSpread1
5 ай бұрын
@@yareyare74 brand new. Picked it up Saturday with 150 miles on it. I ordered it last April and waited just over one year.
@krzzzy19
5 ай бұрын
It's not brand new with 150. I wouldn't accept that.
@TheSpread1
5 ай бұрын
@@krzzzy19 I've read that 150 is normal.
@savagegeese
5 ай бұрын
You sure thats not a dealer or port issue?
@jasonpilla
5 ай бұрын
That being said, don’t want to end on a negative. Great channel, love you guys. Great job.
@ragweedmakesmesneeze
5 ай бұрын
Every time I watch a Lotus review, I think, "why can't Toyota take the Lotus version of their V6 and put it in a Camry?"
@EvoraGT430
3 ай бұрын
Or a Lexus, even. Oh wait.....
@_.xaiene._
5 ай бұрын
This car, the maserati mc20 notte and Aston Martin DBS v12 are literally the best cars
@vindevhunta4905
5 ай бұрын
A beautiful car❤ V6 manual ❤ Yellow ❤ Oh yessssssssssss😊
@AM-uk7jv
5 ай бұрын
I'd definitely still take the 718, in any trim. Lotus dealers in the US are practically non-existent so unless you live by one, it's of great inconvenience WHEN warranty issues arise. Lotus build quality has gotten better over the years, but it's still a British assembled car, for worse and for worse. Furthermore, the Porsche is the standard to which everything else is judged. I'd rather buy the standard over the competitor that just gets close.
@ericochoa5784
5 ай бұрын
Porsche yawn
@TermlessHGW
5 ай бұрын
LOTUS stands for Lot's of Trouble Usually Serious. Their reliability is and always was crap.
@GetOffMyyLawn
5 ай бұрын
@@TermlessHGW For me, this wouldn't be a daily driver, and i would be willing to deal with some of the issues... the main problem in my perspective is the dealer network being so sparse. I wish they would make a deal with Toyota to create a larger service network.
@paisis123
5 ай бұрын
@@TermlessHGW That was true when they made there own engines. The moment the engines switched to toyota sourced, alot of the "Serious" problems went away.
@MrBubs-yu4wm
5 ай бұрын
@@TermlessHGW I’m obviously biased as a Lotus Elise owner, but that hasn’t really been true since they started using Toyota power trains. Little random things here and there going wrong? Occasional electronics issues? Sure, par for the course for a small manufacturer. Not everything gets to be engineered and tested to perfection like Porsche. If that’s a deal breaker for you, no worries. Porsche is a compelling option for many
@vagabond1776
5 ай бұрын
Even as a second vehicle, I can’t deal with the reliability and quality issues of the Emira. And with the discontinuation of the GT4/Spyder, I’ll be happy with a Miata until something better comes along.
@Lucas-ck1po
5 ай бұрын
I kinda wish Lotus partnered with Honda as a supplier. The Honda K20C1 engine (Type R) and transmission would have made so much more sense than the Mercedes engine
@ShaiyanHossain
5 ай бұрын
A better ariel atom for sure
@joe718gt4
5 ай бұрын
And a better throwback to their Lotus-Honda F1 days
@dxcheong
5 ай бұрын
Isn’t it a Toyota engine
@darkchild130
5 ай бұрын
@@dxcheongthe v6 is a toyota, the 4 cylinder is a mercedes engine.
@LawrenceTimme
5 ай бұрын
100% agree. If they could have made the civic manual work with their own engine that would have been great too. Just think if it had a 4.0l na cosworth v6 with a dry sump with a honda gearbox. Scream to 8000+ rpm and around 400bhp. It would lower the centre of gravity loads as well.
@DDd-hr6mz
5 ай бұрын
What is the "trick" to getting the A/C to work on a 12 year old engine? Especially since Lotus doesn't MAKE the A/C unit. The whole rollout was a cluster**k.
@Fahadfk8
5 ай бұрын
The Ali Baba Quality quote is 😂😂😂
@sirseriously
5 ай бұрын
I tried buying a car part from Alibaba once...never again. I ordered an electronically valved exhaust with 3" in and out. The valve was nice, welding all looked okay. Looked down the 3" pipe and the actual hole in the muffler was around 1" wide. They just tacked a 3" stainless pipe to the back of a super cheap muffler. I tried to explain that using such a muffler on my car would, at best, severely hamper performance and possibly damage the car. They said, 'our engineer said it's okay, put it on and let us know.' Luckily alibaba refunded my money but I'm not dealing with that again.
@BERZERKER888
4 ай бұрын
Introducing the new Toyota 458…..Range Rover depreciation included !
@Suikaf1
5 ай бұрын
Had a deposit, cancelled when they increased pricing. For $87,000 it was a good deal, for $107,000 it’s just an option. Dealer held my $5,000 for almost 2 years. Watching this video made me want to buy one but it’s just not worth the money.
@NomenClature-o8s
5 ай бұрын
Yikes.
@rd5140
5 ай бұрын
Why is it not worth the money?? I go out to dinner post covid and it 2x as expensive. Pls lmk a better looking drivers car at this price point?? I'll wait
@cbotten106
5 ай бұрын
@@rd5140 If you've got the money and want/need/desire to spend it on this, it's worth the money. If not, it's simply not. Post COVID inflation notwithstanding.
@2010ngojo
5 ай бұрын
They should not have held your money for so long. Yes, it's a shame that they increased the pricing. I'm just hoping they release a more powerful tuned version at the same price later down the road.
@Suikaf1
5 ай бұрын
@@rd5140 it's not just about looks, it's also about depreciation, time to take it to dealer when it inevitably breaks, opportunity cost of getting something else. I can buy an ND, GR86, and have money left over for mods. C8, M3, gt4 4.0, Dark horse, LC500, etc. I don't even want to begin with used cars. The Emira looks great in a vacuum, but the competition is very stiff. I could go on....
@moesaurenman4734
4 ай бұрын
HAHAHAH the ending killed me. Well lets hope the Emira GT430 (or whatever its called) review doesn't end with that same sentiment.
@isserdigan2835
5 ай бұрын
Seriously was considering this for track car. But they had so many quality issues. Also they wont be delivering until the end of this year when i inquired last september.
@CarGuy11
5 ай бұрын
Would you go with Tour suspension if you were not tracking it or would it feel too floaty for spirited canyon drives?
@savagegeese
5 ай бұрын
Sport suspension is soft. Just go that route.
@TurkeyWilliams
5 ай бұрын
I considered purchasing a Emira to replace my Supra, until I went on the owner’s forums. The number of issues that are arising are surprising and definitely turned me off. I think Geely kind of had a negative affect on Lotus. Keeping my Supra, and either getting a G80 M3 or IS500.
@knightzerox
5 ай бұрын
There are not as many issues for Us cars as we’ve had all the fixes. Most owners that have gotten delivery are happy and had no issues for lots of miles and for me as well.
@AdAstra78
5 ай бұрын
I'm sure it's as awesome as it looks, but that high-end whine at high revs. Jeez. That's really not pleasant on the ear.
@stocksxbondage
5 ай бұрын
Two very different cars but this Emira and LC500 are tied for my favorite car of this decade/era.
@aurorajones8481
5 ай бұрын
Big or small. Thats the take away between the two.
@martinm964
5 ай бұрын
My two favourites also. Can afford neither lol
@stocksxbondage
5 ай бұрын
@@martinm964 I see your little one. Good luck justifying a 100 grand toy for yourself!
@2010ngojo
5 ай бұрын
Two best looking production cars imo in recent years. The hyundai N vision would also be on the list if they ever making it in decent numbers.
@stocksxbondage
5 ай бұрын
@@2010ngojo yes! Looks like we’re all thinking alike
@gregdeschodt9346
4 ай бұрын
wish we got the Alpine A110 instead. Reliable, lighter, unique ride, no excuses.
@PaulRobertson-kt9ps
4 ай бұрын
I now drive a manual 718 GTS 4.0 at over 100k. Amazing engine and gear box for sure...but I still miss my 2017 Toyota 86. It was so much fun to throw around that simple, underpowered, manual Toyobaru twin...
@ttinnovations3310
5 ай бұрын
This my dream car for 2025, V6 S with manual, .. but real life kicked in and I got a 2015 club miata , mmmmm do I need millions for retirement
@amazingjason455
5 ай бұрын
Still hoping Lotus changes their minds and develops more lightweight gas sports cars.
@EvoraGT430
5 ай бұрын
Legislation dictates they cannot, sadly.
@TornadoOfSouls777
5 ай бұрын
EVs are 10+ years out from being the standard.. nobody wants them
@ms8742
5 ай бұрын
@@TornadoOfSouls777 Yes, Lotus is jumping too quick into EV only. If anything they should go hybrid for a while.
@TheBCninja
5 ай бұрын
@iannealcole That sounds like an awesome collection! People are too black and white... all cars have their place. Especially the Murano Cross Cabriolet.
@ms8742
5 ай бұрын
@@iannealcole No, I was just saying I hope Lotus stays viable cause them trying to grow significantly with an expensive car like the Eletre is going to be tough, that's all. It's a cool car, just not sure that is going to get them the growth they need.
@Alex-cc3ol
5 ай бұрын
I have a 2022 GR Supra and considering Lotus Emira as my next car
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