I think the reason why they identify this Kira is not the real one is because of the whole ‘taking a whole TV channel hostage’ situation. Kira has only killed criminals or those who oppose him. Him doing this to a TV channel who hasn’t done anything to him goes against his “righteous” cause, and by the end of the episode, it did unite a lot of people against the Kira cause. Light’s plan was to turn public opinion in his favor. The TV channel move felt closer to a terrorist takeover, because those in the TV building were civilians who had not opposed Kira, so it breaks the pattern.
@omarisrael4974
Күн бұрын
Yeah, agreed, but also I think the show missed the explanation rather than adding to your point focusing in the selected victims, which aren't that different of Kira's normal victims. Aside from the fact that they have an opposing view of Kira, which he doesn't really care as we know unless they get in his way. That's a bit out of character but a big leap to say it's a second Kira. In summary, yes, you are right and maybe the subs aren't doing the favor here.
@Persewna4
Күн бұрын
And I think that's the reason Light says it "tarnished" the name of Kira. Yes, Light wants society to be manipulated by their fear of Kira and fall in line with his ideals of right and wrong, but in such a way that those who perceive themselves as innocent and "right" will secretly praise Kira for culling the criminals and evil-doers from the Earth. He wants Kira to be powerful in idea as well as action, seeing himself as a God, someone who is above humanity and therefore untouchable. The Second Kira brings him back down to Earth and exposes Kira for the terrorist he actually is, holding the world hostage as long as he is allowed to continue, and demonstrating the lengths Kira can and has to go to in order to maintain his power and control.
@storieswithstyle
Күн бұрын
he did kill Lind Taylor in ep 2 :D
@alvarocalmet
Күн бұрын
@@storieswithstyle But technically Lind Taylor was L and opposed him. That’s the thing. The subtlety is that it’s “criminals” or “those who oppose him.” I’m not attributing any morality to his code. Light’s a psychopath. But in the world he wants to build, everyone is safe unless they go against him or commit crimes. That is why the TV station hostage situation was very “off brand.” At least that’s my read. If the world is happy that someone is getting rid of all criminals and the police are actually the one trying to stop their “saviour”, then things work out in Lights favor. But if an act of Kira (like this one) is done in such a blunt, terrorist-like way, then that perception goes away. Like another commenter said, it goes from “Kira is a God” to “Kira is just another terrorist who thinks he’s making the world a better place.” Light is playing a game of perception.
@akumablood1509
Күн бұрын
@@storieswithstylebc he thought he was L and he opposed him
@Lucas47240
13 күн бұрын
Yeah, it's a bit convenient that in the whole world, where having a Death Note seems to be very rare, 2 Japanese who live in the same place have one. And yes, for the beginning, there aren't many clues that prove the existence of the second Kira but L (and Light, of course :D) have a good understanding of the first Kira's personality. Enough so that the murder of 2 innocents doesn't seem to be in the habits, not like “justice”, of the first Kira. Because Kira only kills criminals and his opponents, not "direct" innocents (but I admit it's a bit convenient too, and the “opponents” can be a very wide range of people). But that doesn't stop us from enjoying the story, I guess :)
@abel6298
Күн бұрын
Read your bible! (KJV, preferably) ❤️
@blitzzace
Күн бұрын
i had typed up a whole comment to try to explain why L and Light consider the second Kira "not very bright", but i found myself basically defining a word by using the word. more to the point; i'm really just not sure how you got the impression that the second Kira seemed just like the real Kira, or seemed to be acting with anywhere near the same level of intellect, caution, or deviousness. i don't think they "built her up only to make her dumb now." i have always thought that most viewers immediately got the impression in the last episode that it was a copycat because the second Kira spoke in a much different way than Light speaks and behaved in a way much less cautious, much more boastful and in the open, and also, Light was not shown for so long.
@storieswithstyle
Күн бұрын
I might have overanalyd, but Misa is defintiely bright, but not always with good reasons, love how she is written.
@PizzaMineKing
Күн бұрын
Wildcard in play: Misa is both beneficial and harmful to both sides as she is out of lights control and not as careful as light in her attempts to contact him. Getting caught by the police is low on her priority list.
@LeoBeastmode
Күн бұрын
I think the reason why Misa seemed smart at first was because she had many days or even weeks to plan and set up that confrontation. When she reacted to the task force's message, it was like the next day. It shows that she's not one to make elaborate plans but the eyes give her an edge...she's mostly just spontaneous.
@اميرمادرا
Күн бұрын
I agree with you here l love it is amzing episode have nice day❤
@storieswithstyle
Күн бұрын
Well, she is pretty clever in the next ep as well :D
@KevinTaningco
18 сағат бұрын
@@storieswithstyle Do you have like a patreon for an early acess? love your deathnote reactions
@storieswithstyle
14 сағат бұрын
yes, it is in the video descriptions =) It is always at least 2 eps farther then youtube =)
@PizzaMineKing
Күн бұрын
Misa being as clever as light and doing stuff like she did in this episode doesn't necessarily contradict - contrary, it only means her priorities are different. Details are revealed later, but with the material here is seems: L's priorities: 1. Catching Kira 2. Surviving 1. Light: 1. His god complex 2. Not getting caught 3. L dying 4. His cat and mouse game with L. Misa's Kira / what misa thinks Kiras priorities are: 1. Serving justice 2. Killing L Misa's priority: 1. Meeting Kira 2. Helping Kira 3. Confirming the kira she meets to be kira 4. Not getting caught herself. Note that for misa, the not getting caught part is very low in the priorities whereas for light, it is quite high. She IS operating as clever as light - but towards a different goal. Keeping information secret is less important to her than to light.
@اميرمادرا
Күн бұрын
I agree with you here l love misa she smart villain too have nice day❤
@Persewna4
Күн бұрын
I think this is a great breakdown in the differences between these three and how/why they operate. Misa can seem dumb, but mainly when looking at it from a she "should" do X and her doing Y contradicts that. She "should" be trying not to get caught, but she doesn't really care about that, so she is careless in her actions. She wants to meet Kira, and she comes up with some very clever ways to do that! It's all about seeing things from different perspectives.
@storieswithstyle
Күн бұрын
Misa is so well written, though I onl yunderstood her next ep fully
@akumablood1509
Күн бұрын
She’s dumb
@Persewna4
Күн бұрын
@@storieswithstyle Misa adds a rogue element into the mix that shakes up Light and L's chess match. After L, Misa's my next favorite character, she's a lot of fun and definitely more complex than she seems on the surface.
@sd3kcir471
Күн бұрын
In the last episode,Misa: -revealed that more than one person can have Kira's power (death note) -revealed that kira can kill without names (shinigami eyes) -made the police go back to standing up against kira -confirmed to L that kira is not some godlike being (he wasnt 100% sure before) -killed innocent people just to show that she was kira,which made "kira" no longer look like a name of justice that punishes evil and protects the good,aka it took down its reputation All of this to get light's attention Id say she was just as dumb as she was in the current episode
@storieswithstyle
Күн бұрын
I disagree. We see next ep that she is indeed clever, just mentally damaged af
@sd3kcir471
Күн бұрын
@@storieswithstyle she is not completely dumb,she is just Extremely reckless and doesn't think about the consequences of her actions
@braveandhansome
23 сағат бұрын
@@storieswithstyleDang😂
@LaceEditing
Күн бұрын
I think the reason L freaked out at the mention of Shinigami is different to his earlier statement of 'maybe it could just be an act of God' because that was mostly him saying "i acknowledge the possibility but there's obviously no way that's true" whereas Misa explicitly saying she wants to show Kira her shinigami puts L in a position where he has to genuinely consider that he might be incapable of solving the case due to it actually being related to Gods
@storieswithstyle
Күн бұрын
Yeah, it felt like that. I also loved that it showed small emotions of his - again. He is really marvellously written =)
@Persewna4
Күн бұрын
His reaction here is so similar to Light's when he sees Ryuk for the first time, from yelling out to falling out of his chair. I think it's a really great way of showing how similar they are when confronted with evidence of something beyond themselves and their influence.
@virtualmartini
6 сағат бұрын
I think it's less that he feels he'll be incapable of solving it with Gods involved and more that as a hyper-logical person, learning that supernatural things exist flips his world upside-down.
@t3rcx
Күн бұрын
Light's sense of entitlement that he demonstrated during the happenstance meeting with Naomi explains why he is okay with L dying in an indirect manner. In other words, Light would still take some kind of credit even if he didn't kill L directly because he feels that his existence as the god of the new world entitles him to punish L, so even an unrelated incident would just be fate on his side. In the same way, he was pleased to encounter Naomi by luck and even thought "there must be a god on my side."
@gabrielesolletico6542
Күн бұрын
Exactly.
@vekith5824
Күн бұрын
Rem design is really cool. She is also a female Shinigami.
@swaswj414
Күн бұрын
I don't feel like anything Misa did in episode 11 was particularly intelligent. The summation of her plan: send a letter with pre-recorded tapes to the TV station; kill some people for proof; demand the police obey Kira; demand L be sacrificed. The only parts of this that show intelligence are that she A) did not use people Kira might kill for her proof and B) filtered her voice. The stunt was brute force, not a mastermind tactic. She was formidable in this situation because of the Death Note and shinigami eyes, not because she ran a clever gambit.
@اميرمادرا
Күн бұрын
I agree with you here have nice day❤
@TheOneBifi
Күн бұрын
I think you overestimated her in the last episode. She didn't really do anything too intelligent, but she made some big mistakes: - She made it clear that Kira is a person and not some other sort of entity. - She created a physical trial by sending actual tapes. - She attempted to be a spokesperson for the "real Kira". - She revealed a higher level of power by killing those who approached the station. I think it's consistent with what we see her (and what we'll see). Also, in this episode she made the reply because, in her mind, the only one who would know she wasn't Kira would be the real Kira.
@storieswithstyle
Күн бұрын
No, I underestimated her in this one. But it all beacme reall clear in the next ep =)
@radioact1ve808
Күн бұрын
Seriously, I think Misa's error is enormous. You have to think about it from a public perspective too. Besides the Lind L. Taylor incident, which was only broadcasted originally one region of Japan, there really isn't any reason to assume Kira isn't just a mysterious god, and is thus far easier to worship. When Kira is making dumb simplistic moral arguments like Misa, he's a lot less mysterious and incredible. Like a writer, Light knows how to rhetorically make Kira seem divine and just, even if his moral base is weak.
@1HammerHaunt1
Күн бұрын
IMO at this point you *have to* react to Steins;Gate some time(maybe right after Death Note). I'm 99.9% sure you'll enjoy it.
@cdmay4
Күн бұрын
She's basically Harley Quinn. Loyal and secretly smart, but it's overshadowed by her obsessions and makes her impulsive/stupid. She's like an intelligence pendulum. But sadly, the dumb side swings harder. She's a very devisive character. 35:04 she's not underage at all she just looks & acts young
@اميرمادرا
Күн бұрын
Yes your ritht here l love her she amzing have nice day❤
@gabrielesolletico6542
Күн бұрын
I think she's older than Light.
@Persewna4
Күн бұрын
@@gabrielesolletico6542 She is two years older than Light (manga bdays, she's born in '84, he's born '86; in the anime it's '87 and '89, respectively).
@gabrielesolletico6542
Күн бұрын
@@Persewna4 Ok, so I was right.
@Amonimus
Күн бұрын
There is a big difference between goth and satanism, though with some overlap. Satanism (as officially described) is effectively anti-religion, there's no worship and it mainly runs on symbolism how a person can do everything by themselves. Goth is an anti-conformist culture, it works as a protest against "imposed values", which very commonly ends up as anti-happiness anti-traditional style despite it not being the point. Then there's just goth fashion, which has grown into a separate thing, especially in Japan where many brands can get very fashionable while staying all black. It's ambiguous if Misa is Catholic, but it's very likely due to her experiences she just enjoys being closer to the spiritual side even if she doesn't practice anything.
@russellward4624
Күн бұрын
She does wear a rosary, but this might just be more religious iconography. It's very common to use Christian iconography in media. Babymetal uses things like the Virginia Mary statue etc.. but it's not a Christian message. And the group has nothing to do with Christianity. Japan is a very non religious country. 80% refer to themselves as non religious. Less than 1% are Christian. But everyone knows stuff like the apple etc.. and it just provides interesting symbolism.
@storieswithstyle
Күн бұрын
Yes, they are differnt, I just got both vibes from her beacuse of the black (goth) and the church stuff and her killing (satanism) =)
@fantonpipe
Күн бұрын
Naaaaaaaaa, it's the same shit The same hot shit
@gabrielesolletico6542
Күн бұрын
@@storieswithstyle "The Church stuff"? Why would be "The Church stuff" a symbol, or something related, with Satanism? If you're a Catholic, you have Holy Images in your house (Like picture of Jesus, of the Virgin Mary, of the Sacred Heart etc.). But I must add that, in Japan, sometimes some of this Holy symbol are generally related with Gothic fashion in general, since 99,99% of the Japanese aren't Christians (and the very few who are are generally Protestants), and they simply related Cross, Holy Hearts of Mary etc. with a "gothic" scenario, because they see these religious symbol a lot in western horror films about vampires etc. On a note side: her own name, "Misa", it's the way the English word "Mass" is pronounced by Japanese people. So yes, her relation with Holy iconographies is really tight.
@elliotRust29
17 сағат бұрын
@@gabrielesolletico6542 lol why is that even a question, when thinking of satanism most people immediately think that it's the ''opposite of christianity'' thats why the church stuff in this setting (with killing and gothic fashion) gives off satanistic vibes (of course i know that's not what satanism is because i studied it a lot a few years ago)
@michaeldekar9579
Күн бұрын
I didn't have trouble following Light and L's ethos and logic, which.. might be telling, maybe I'm borderline a sociopath haha. But none the less, the 2nd Kira was really obvious I thought because: Kira has never needed hostages, or spoke to the public at all. For us viewers its been 5 hours of anime time, but in world its been over half a year. Kira has never had to demand anything as petty as bring forth more criminals. Its extremely obvious. If She wants to get Kira's attention, she's going to have to make a big scene, and make it known she's the one killing them. If she starts going after criminals that are going to have heart attacks anyway, Light would likely never know it wasn't him for a while. So.. impatience is basically a huge MO here. Kira doesn't need anyone to keep broadcasting criminals, he's been taking his time, so rushing the fact and making it public is just weird. It also is such a bad to go about it. This whole scene was garbage for Kira's reptutation. Before all this, "Bad people" were dying, that was all the public knew and it wasn't a concern now. Out of sight out of mind. Now? This was enough of a shove to get the police involved again, to rally, and that is the worst thing because now. people will bother keeping an eye out for Kira, and will hestitate less to call in tips. Light's kept the shadows this entire time, there was no reason for Kira to ever step out of them. Keep in mind kiling the FBi, the Naomi, etc was cloak and dagger, and no one ever knew.
@Eihei
Күн бұрын
Exactly this. The main point is that 2nd Kira's actions were inconsistent are way to sudden compared to previous Kira. Not talking about the fact that she could kill people without a name and killed completely innocent, unrelated people just to "show off"/prove their identity, which was never needed - there was literally 0 point to that.
@Persewna4
Күн бұрын
Right; Kira demanding that more criminals be broadcast would make sense only if the world's governments had taken a public stance to no longer provide Kira with potential victims, and he was forced to acknowledge his existence and declare the world his hostage if they continued to defy him. But no one was doing that yet, so Light had no reason to confirm to the world that Kira was more than rumor. As long as Kira was not much more than whispers and speculation, the more powerful he would be, because he would place doubt in the public's (and even L's) mind on whether these events were mortal or divine. Announcing himself would end that, and make it clear to all law enforcement that Kira is real, human, catchable, stoppable.
@michaeldekar9579
Күн бұрын
@@Persewna4 That's a very brilliant point as well. Kira has never come out and conversed with anyone. The closest they came was inmates writing messages to L in their own blood before they died. ^ This alone would send any normal person packing. You mean to tell me, that someone has the ability to kill anyone with a face or name from far away, and control final moments before they die? The only thing that even comes close to rationalizing this is hypnotism and that can't be done remotely. There is no logical explanation for Kira's abilities other than supernatural. What she did was irresponsible, dumb and really one of the very few ways that L could even pin anything on Light. It was months ago, that Light gave a teaser about Shinigami loving apples which could very well be tossed away as nonsense and nothing more. Light hasn't given any clues since then overtly and likely never would.
@jeez8939
Күн бұрын
In the defense of L’s freakout For people believe in God or gods and for people to believe in ghosts or the grim reaper(s) are fairly different.
@metrophidon
Күн бұрын
You're right! There is a "god of stories" that exists and makes all these lucky coincidences happen because it's fun. He's called Tsugumi Ohba (the author).
@gabrielesolletico6542
Күн бұрын
Or She is called?
@wakahisasensei
Күн бұрын
Light’s concern about the 2nd Kira is two fold: 1. Reputation 2. Someone outside of his control who may get caught (and therefore reveal the existence of the deathnote which increaes the odds of himself get caught). I don’t know if this is ever explicitly stated, but its definitely implied. Also, while Light did kill a purse snatcher which is a very low-level crime, its still a crime. But Misa killed actual innocent TV show hosts who committed no crime nor were they pursuing Kira. Even Lind L Taylor was allegedly pursuing Light. So L does have good reason to suspect a 2nd Kira based on that.
@wakahisasensei
Күн бұрын
@wakahisasensei 0 seconds ago Regarding why they think the 2nd Kira is less intelligent, it’s not entirely accurate but also not inaccurate. Rewatch the last episode and pay attention to how the 2nd Kira talks. While capable of intelligent plans, her behavior is overall more simplistic.
@Kuukikyu
Күн бұрын
I think that Light sees himself as the chosen one and every time that luck is on his side he sees it as a validation of his godhood. He commented on it multiple time by the past when something went his way out of pure luck. So I think that if another Kira appears to kill his enemy out on nowhere he would see it as a sign of the world siding with him again and not as a steal. And I think that since he sees himself as a god, he doesn't perceive his actions as "killing innocents" but once the second Kira does it, he doesn't see it the same way. And I think that ultimately what the public says about him matters a lot to him and we know that he kills some people by other means than heart attacks just like Naomi Misora and ultimately, people only identify him with heart attacks and wouldn't link those other deaths to him. So the fact that the second Kira use his signature move to kill people he hasn't sentenced himself irritates him even if he would have done the same.
@vdinh143
14 сағат бұрын
There's nothing inconsistent with Light killing the FBI agents in my opinion. We humans in the real world have done just as much if not more. Whatever opposes your "righteous" beliefs are deemed evil by definition and if they are extreme enough to perform acts of violence against you then why fight with kids gloves on?
@RedStar_N7
Күн бұрын
In a way, Gods of Death may as well be gods of destiny. I mean think about people who die in freak car accidents and how leaving home just 2 minutes later or ealier would have completely changed their fates. So its not a stretch to think that events can line up in such a way that maximizes the number of deaths happening is by keeping Kira alive and out of prison
@NameFirst-fb6km
Күн бұрын
For ls reason , Kira could have killed him in ep 2 if he had the abilities of the second Kira
@fosterbennington6405
Күн бұрын
Perhaps odd to say but I love the old internet memes you reference all the time, reminds me of my older brother who is much older than I am who would teach me about them because I was still too young to use the internet myself. Very nostalgic!
@fosterbennington6405
Күн бұрын
Also in regard to luck, I assume at least in the girl’s case, her lifespan is so long even after having the eyes that it’s impossible for there to be a situation where she dies before then and events may be subtly manipulated in her favour because of this.
@storieswithstyle
Күн бұрын
I was there, 3000 years ago... not, but I was there when it started to go mainstream (internet), so .. oh god, I am old xD
@PizzaMineKing
Күн бұрын
The luck god you described is the author and the manga release structure: Apparently, mangas like death note are not written in one go but on a week by week basis, which means there may have been a rough outline, but they wrote and released it chapter by chapter with no way to edit it after the chapter is released. This means the writers here often end a chapter on a cliffhanger before deciding how to resolve that cliffhanger in the next episode - which leads to crazy luck.
@Amonimus
Күн бұрын
That's a thing with manga in general, they usually are made by teams of 2-5 who must send 20 pages of material to the publisher weekly, so very commonly the author makes up new ideas on the fly, then creates moments of suspense to buy the reader's interest and some time to figure out what they even want to do with it.
@PizzaMineKing
Күн бұрын
@@Amonimus Honestly, this structure is a dual-edged blade: a lot of fun ideas come out of it occasionally, but also a lot of bad writing. I think a lot of manga premises could be improved if they had been written and published in one go, but on the other hand a lot of good ideas might get lost in such a structure.
@storieswithstyle
Күн бұрын
Yes, I know, it really shows, but it is not that bad if i know why it is. Still, in the manga some stuff was apparently better explained :D
@PizzaMineKing
Күн бұрын
@@storieswithstyle Yeah... Basically, an anime usually summarises a manga, keeping out a lot of small details. With this show it really, and I mean REALLY, shows once you reach what is the later half of the manga and the last quarter of the anime.
@thefandom6243
11 сағат бұрын
I always read Misa as impulsive, not stupid. If she actually has to take the time to stand back and think, she can be quite smart. The problem is, if she thinks she has a lead, she will rush forward at full speed.
@storieswithstyle
4 сағат бұрын
I currently think she is really clever, but has serious mental issues. Really intriguing.
@nvlkv8720
Күн бұрын
OWNAH YAYY I GOT HOME IN TIME TO WATCH (sonewhat) EARLYᕙ(‾̀◡‾́)ᕗ
@djb9267
Күн бұрын
Light dislikes the second kira because misa kills people that light thinks aren't worth it. She killed a man that has only said that kira is evil, which goes against light's perception of justice. Light was disgusted with himself, after having killed Takuo Shibuimaru and almost throws up. He realizes at that point that his own Standards need to be above satisfying his own boredom.
@LD-dt1sk
Күн бұрын
L: “This kira is not so bright” German guy: “They think kira is clever”
@storieswithstyle
Күн бұрын
HA, and I was right! =P As they say next ep :D
@LD-dt1sk
Күн бұрын
@@storieswithstyle you are seriously overestimating her. She has always been a liability. Even at the first broadcast she went way out of character for kira and revealed she can kill with just face.
@Eihei
Күн бұрын
@@LD-dt1sk yeah, and in the following episode she is even dumber when she literally comes to his home. Finding Light using shinigami eyes is not clever, she was literally told how they work when you look at other death note users, she even needed step by step repeated instructions from Rem on how that works just before. She has yet to do anything that is not completely dumb and almost gets Light captured.
@ryusukeminami52
Күн бұрын
FYI, if a story, whatever the medium, was free of any "convenience", that story would be either the utmost boring story ever, or the longest one ever. Convenience is mandatory in a fiction, the talent of the writer resides in his/her capacity to find a way to make them believable. As I said in a previous video: the story is based on our world but includes shinigamis, or rather this precise conception of shinigami. All the conveniences could easily be answered by either: it’s a story and it needs to go on; or, god figures being implemented, they are devine interventions. I think the problem for you finding them believable resides in the time you take pausing the video (not that I reproach any of it, of course you need to do so to comment, but I’m sure you’ll enjoy it much better when/if you watch it again after that without pausing) And of course, as usual, the answers will come later… 😉
@storieswithstyle
Күн бұрын
No, I solightly disagree. there are stories (aoT or dark) whewre there are almost no conveniences like in death note. I do not mind that much, as I know it was a serialized manga and released week to week without an overarchingdetailed plan. So it makes sense =) In that form of stoytelling, there definitely is room for conveniences.
@omarisrael4974
Күн бұрын
yeah, I'm here with my guy in the vid here (srry I don't know your name), one thing is to making things convenient, which is straight the hand of the writer acting, and the other is planned events to make the story interesting, which come from real planning in story making. There are both types of authors, but it feels more natural or less "convenient" when it's planned. Btw, the situation at the end of the video, is convenient too, but not really important. It's just to showcase the disparity of views in close quarters without hurting the story or making weird transitions. Just like L and Light "argue" at the end of 2nd ep on justice.
@MarianFK
Күн бұрын
I like that you mention stories without conveniences being too long or hard to write, because I feel that's exactly what stopping G.R.R Martin from finishing ASOIAF. He wrote a lot of storylines that each need to converge in a single one, but he doesn't like writing conveniences, he has to develop every step in a "realistic" way, and that would take much more space that what he himself framed for the story (7 books).
@Persewna4
22 сағат бұрын
@@omarisrael4974 that's a good point about planned "conveniences" being more natural, over conveniences being necessary to write the story out of the corner its in. Like, an easy way to have fixed the issue with Naomi would be a scene or even a line to show that her being at the police HQ was not coincidence, that she's been going every day to try to speak with the task force, and been turned away each day. Then when Light meets her, it's not convenient, because that's where she's been every day; Light going to the HQ that day would then make their meeting inevitable. It might also fix her willingness to talk with him once he tells her he's on the task force, because her built up frustration over being turned away everyday, coupled with her grief, could make her more likely to slip up and make a mistake.
@omarisrael4974
20 сағат бұрын
@@Persewna4, you got it. Smoothing out a series of events does the world for the story being "more realistic". Even in a fast-paced series like Death Note. Couldn't give a better example than yours.
@Cri_Jackal
Күн бұрын
It's not that what Misa was doing in the moment wasn't intelligently done, it's the idea itself that was stupid and way too overt. Light's Kira was quietly executing criminals without saying a word or making statements himself, having faith that people would fall in line with his ideology naturally over time due to his actions acting as the example and message, he had no plans to speak on his own behalf. Taking an entire news station hostage and publicly threatening the police, instilling fear in the public, is way out of character with what "Kira" was doing up to that point, Kira sees no need to _demand_ respect in any form, he expects and knows it will come on its own by positioning himself as a god figure. Misa made a blunder by cooking up such a high profile situation in the first place, she's intelligent enough to execute plans flawlessly, but creating them is where her personal priorities drag her down, personal rational judgement is a different type of intelligence than raw plan making, any madman can make a machiavellian plot, doesn't mean what they're making it for is something smart.
@vitornadai2140
Күн бұрын
if you think about it she didnt do anything particularly smart, she just recorded somo voice overs and threatened/killed people to broadcast it
@storieswithstyle
Күн бұрын
Well, next ep we see mroe of her cleverness, so I still stand by it. but yeah, there is some stuff left to explore with her :D
@ignacioacuna6437
Күн бұрын
MIsa is an airhed but she has random burst of competence, like she dumb as a brick, but later down the line she gonna keep doing thigns that are realy smart
@storieswithstyle
Күн бұрын
I do see her a bit different after the next ep, but I will discuss her then from my point of view =)
@flyingeagle3898
Күн бұрын
although he considered it to some extent, I don't think L seriously beleived in the supernatural as a potential explanation of events until this episode.
@Amonimus
Күн бұрын
As a Detective, the only thing L knows is that Kira uses an unknown method that has strict rules. Even if he considered psychic abilities, to him it's still something tangible. The implications that the supernatural is involved may have put him into overdrive because in such case rational logic and arrest could be impossible and he'd have to come up with something else.
@VestinVestin
Күн бұрын
As far as Death Note reactions are concerned, I think there are 3 areas where people's views differ both between individuals and across episodes: 1. Light and how much he's justified in his actions 2. Misa 3. The pacing of the show Personally, I can't wait to see how you view Misa... Also, stop going on about that purse-snatcher xD! "Einmal ist keinmal!" 07:37 - There's a saying over here: "If two independent people are telling you that you're drunk, shut up and sleep it off." 14:17 - Whether something is dumb or not depends on the desired goal... What does Misa want? 16:25 - I would have more sympathy towards your stance had I not just finished watching a bright young woman playing an adventure game vividly recall a crucial clue that was mentioned in passing 12 hours earlier... as she continued to stumble about aimlessly, unable to solve a puzzle, because she forgot the game's fundamental mechanic that she kept using over and over over those last 12 hours. Women are strange creatures ;). Alternatively, if you want to take the fun out of it... men can also act with diminished IQ when driven by certain impulses... 22:28 - Please stop calling Rem a "he"... 27:23 - Ummm... Imagine you're a young woman accosted in a dark alley by a crazy stalker. You REALLY think you're going to talk yourself out of this? Just like that? You're going to come up with the exact sequence of words that'll make this work? I remember a seminar where, in the context of a random thug, the professor argued he'd use his expert knowledge of philosophy to present a moral argument and thus defuse the situation. His delivery was perfectly deadpan, but I think every last one of us understood that he was joking.
@storieswithstyle
Күн бұрын
Well, I "get" misa next ep :D Well, for the stalker, if they are infatuated you can actiually manipulate them. risky, but better than 100% death. But running away is always th ebest advice. Fun fact, you run away under big stress and freeze under small stress, so flight insitncts in real life alwways kick in in these situations =)
@Persewna4
Күн бұрын
@@storieswithstyle that's interesting, and I think speaks to Misa's backstory then as to why she froze here instead of running... maybe she didn't believe she was going to die, or maybe the possibility of death wasn't as stressful to her as it might be to others...
@VestinVestin
Күн бұрын
@@Persewna4 "Fight, flight, or freeze", one could argue... However, you are onto something! "Psychopathy" as part of the dark triad is basically the ability to act calmly and rationally in otherwise horrifying circumstances. Then again, it will probably surprise absolutely nobody that Misa isn't exactly an emotionless, calculating psychopath ;)...
@rodjacksonx
Күн бұрын
They think the second Kira isn't very bright because he engaged in a public, directly-speaking-to-the-world display, killed innocent cops in front of the world (as opposed to the FBI agents dying "off screen"--it matters to how people view it,) and he left a TON of physical evidence in the process... even the idea that they might have theoretically been able to undo the voice warping should have been a hypothetical concern.
@lucyairapetian407
23 сағат бұрын
20:20 how was she clever? What was co clever in what she’s done?
@WaverGreen
Күн бұрын
Some have died from their alien encounter.. on the spot from fear/ shock / heart attack, over time from the stress, or from physiological effects ( radiation ) The reality can hit people in different ways
@mracorismg3656
Күн бұрын
7:38 he said a completely different thing. What he was saying is, that the probability is lower for 2 people to be incorrect exactly the same way Even in science, if someone came up with a theory, it still needs to be proved. But if 2 people came up with the same theory, it demands even more attention
@SCP.343
Күн бұрын
Misa was never built up to be more intelligent than average. She was only portrayed as an average-level intellect, but now she is shown to also be driven by her emotions, which can make her a bit impulsive if she gets carried away.
@Fawlker
Күн бұрын
I know is too soon to say this, but may i suggest after you finish Death Note to watch *Death Parade?* It's an anime that talks a lot about the concepts of death, and some may argue it has a "connection" to Death Note as well. Also, i beg you to watch *Monster,* by Naoki Urasawa, which is loved by many and regarded as the greatest mystery/suspense anime has ever produced.
@storieswithstyle
Күн бұрын
I have watched death parade when it came out, absolutely loved it! =) I will probably do Monster after death Note.
@monger1
Күн бұрын
Something that always confused me about Death Note reactors is that for some reason a lot of them think that Misa was genius in the last episode. The plan she came up with was of completely average intelligence. The only reason it seems smart is because we were confused on what was going on. And her plan was portrayed the same way all of Lights are. Every time Light executes a plan we get left in the dark the same way we were with Misa's plan. Another thing is that we originally assumed it was Light but then found out it was Misa's, I think this causes a lot of people to feel like Misa is just as smart as light. At the end of the day the plan Misa came up was good but it wasn't anything an average human couldn't come up with.
@storieswithstyle
Күн бұрын
It wwas pretty good and I do think she is above light level of planning/intelligence, but she is severely hampered by her mental problems, that severly impair her most of the time. =)
@raphaellyons8611
18 сағат бұрын
@@storieswithstyleOkay now you're either trolling or completely in denial 😂
@viriatox9782
Күн бұрын
Great reaction, as usual. I understand your stance on how the Second Kira has acted as you think Kira should have done in front of the public, but Light seems to want to maintain the mysticism of the Kira figure and a message to the world where he kills innocent people for the only "crime" of publicly disagreeing with him has not been the best presentation to convince people that Kira is on the side of the defenseless citizens who want true Justice to reign in the world. From his point of view, he could be considered a magnanimous god, who is giving freedom to people to believe and support him or not, because the only ones he punishes are criminal wrongdoers (and people who get too close to the truth, but the public doesn't know that except for the prisoner who played L in front of the cameras; if I remember correctly, only the police, L and the FBI itself know about the FBI agents), not to people who do not believe or support him Hence, the reason why Light considers that the Second Kira has sullied Kira's name. And the best way to maintain that mysticism, proper to a divine figure, is not to send any kind of messages, and even less to a television network known for its sensationalist yellow journalism. I can't wait to watch your next DN reactions. And I also highly recommend you react to an anime psychological thriller titled Monster. I think you'll love it. PS: I don't know where you're watching Death Note, but please change those subtitles. There are better subtitles for this anime on Netflix. And I recommend them for other anime as well.
@storieswithstyle
Күн бұрын
Netflix does not have it in germany =( Noone does, it is region locked for some reason, so I.. well , ARRR :D
@Persewna4
22 сағат бұрын
@@storieswithstyle If I've watched enough youtube channel sponsors claim, that's what a VPN is good for
@Persewna4
22 сағат бұрын
I think down the line, Light would have eventually started killing Kira's critics, although it would probably be years down the road, once most serious crimes have been greatly stifled and Kira's grip on the world's throat started to tighten, then he would want to quietly eliminate anyone who opposes him or criticizes him. But even then he wouldn't announce that, it would be done slowly, likely with accidents instead of heart attacks, to make people superstitious and avoid speaking against him for fear of being "cursed" by Kira.
@passovla
Күн бұрын
since everyone is afraid to say, i will say it: Misa is just a dumb fanservice. there can only be a few "coincidences" in a story before it starts feeling forced. The first one was the death note randomly being found by one of the smartest people in the world (that happened to be a psychopath too). This is ok, the story has to kickoff somehow. L taking the stage and starting this cat/mouse chase is not a coincidence. After the Kira case came to the attention of world leaders, it is just natural that only the smartest people around would remain playing the game. Naomi being written as such a smart person, but then, being wasted by a sequence of coincidences was bad enough, but at least we can accept that the author probably noticed he couldnt handle the way the story was going, so he got rid of her in the fastest/dirtiest way as possible. and now we got this. How luck that among all gothic lolita models in the world, the shinigami fell in love (another rare event) with exactly that one in Japan. and that happened around the time where kira situation was already in motion. and she is absolutely obssessed with the villain (a la harley quinn) nah, that is just too much... I guess we can agree that the author just wanted to grab more views by throwing some old anime trope and stirring up the dreams of fanartists. the anime is still enjoyable, though. Once Misa is stablished as a tool and we just accept she is there and stop questioning how, we can go back and focus on the L/L chase.
@DundG
19 сағат бұрын
Was it ever stated that she is japanese? It's easy for a famous model to travel to different locations for photo shootings and it is known that Kira at least was at first in Japan, Chinjoku.
@charles_pensamentocritico
13 сағат бұрын
The manga has more inner monologues, especially during the 2nd half of the show, the anime has to rush some parts, after all it's a show mostly consisting of still images, internal monologue, and dialogues, they are already doing their best to make it exciting such as the potato chip scene or killing montages, with exciting music and cuts, for what is actually just a guy sitting at the desk and writing in his notebook.
@LevitatingCups
Күн бұрын
a comment to boost algo
@storieswithstyle
Күн бұрын
much appreciated =)
@mado9752
15 сағат бұрын
uh I don't understand why you think the second kira is so intelligent, she didn't do anything 🤔
@Eihei
Күн бұрын
I'm really confused why are you acting as if Misa did anything particularly clever before and suddenly became dumb haha
@makeda6530
Күн бұрын
Misa is a gothic/punk style lolita, a Harajuku subculture of dressing. She can be a bit aloof but I think the cute persona veils her darkness, like Tai Lee, she hides your intelligence by masking under it an unassuming personality. To some it would appear stupid or non threatening because she’ll never be taken seriously. Also she isn’t immune to her naïveté, like Light as well, as a young woman obsessed with dark love.
@powerofberzerker9487
Күн бұрын
I guess you can really say that gods meddled with this whole story. Which is what literally happened. Ryuk was bored and tricked their shinigami king, while Rem did something she felt the need to do because of the shinigami that killed himself by saving Misa. I like to believe that death note fall on earth every 500 or more years, but here there's two falling in the same country around the same time. A once in an earth's time thing.
@lukasal91
Күн бұрын
I think the purse snatcher had another history and was only recently back in the spotlight for the minor thing of snatching a purse. The 2nd kira being called out like that is due to that incident being a sudden drastic measure that kira never went to for all the time he was active. It's boisterous, it's showing off, it's very direct in intend, etc. which are all indicators of a lesser intellect and drastically different from kira (despite being prone to provocations).
@Melanrick
Күн бұрын
So, a justice* system uses typifications to better punish and justify the crimes since the level of evil of every person it's different and better yet, the intentions are different too, so let's take 3 guys, a rapist, a wife beater and a serial killer. Those 3 have the same things in common: They all hate women, they're all violent, they are all self serving and etc. Their goals are kinda the same: Hurting women to feel better, but one beats his wife to put the rage down, the other one rapes women to get pleasure and the third one kidnap, beats, rapes and then kill women. Their intentions and methods are all different. Kira is lawful evil, period. His definitions of law and order are different than the other people, but it's still there and if he starts kidnapping tv channels, killing policemen that are trying to stop that tape and etc, then he is just a common criminal. Killing a cop that is closer to get to him is a necessary evil for a greater good, but all the others are another typification of character, another method and a whole completely thought train than he has, so it got to be someone else. Otherwise Kira would just make the whole police department hostage and kill one every hour until he gets L, but that's the opposite of what he's trying to do. He needs the police to keep the lesser criminals in check and etc.
@rakansasas1111
Күн бұрын
Well, the big "coincidence" in that last scene at the cafe does not affect the plot in any way. They could be having those thoughts in different places and the story would be the same. So I consider it more an arthistic choice to represent the characters in this moment than a plot hole. Also, I think is a way of telling us that their fates are connected somehow.
@ErnestSpathari
Күн бұрын
You have to watch steins gate. HAVE TO……….
@sergiyhoncharuk5396
7 сағат бұрын
well... - uniting many people (i would even argue majority of which were originally on your side) against you by quite literally resorting to terrorism and killing innocent civilians when they weren't a threat - all while creating more physical evidence - and - as we'll soon learn - having your friend doing some of this stuff for you - killing any threat in sight thus giving away that unlike previously thought, it's possible to kill without knowing a name and just proving exactly that when police arrives using helmets - and that you're actively watching the place in real time and so either you've got to have some planted devices which could be tracked or you're literally somewhere there to see with your own eyes ...doesn't sound particularly bright ? also like, come on: if you know how kira does what he does and can do the same, contacting him by almost literally shouting on the TV "hey, i'm here, i exist, can we meet maybe?" which immediately makes it infinitely more public and even more trackable.
@sergiyhoncharuk5396
6 сағат бұрын
like for example, one easy way to make it harder for investigators while not changing the method of contact itself would be the same thing light did with FBI agents: do the exact same thing with multiple channels simultaneously, so that they can get as little of the information as possible. ideally you would at least want to do that with all top-tier newsletters on most watchable channels, probably even around the world (let's be honest it wasn't THAT unaffordable even then). or maybe send that to chosen few and threaten them all to send copies to other channels on a certain date so that when even few channels actually start broadcasting, it's harder to isolate the original source of the tapes.
@alexandereklof1555
Күн бұрын
Did you see the series "Lie to me" ? I think you'd love it, as it is based on science. 😇
@storieswithstyle
Күн бұрын
Yeah, it is one of my favourite tv shows, favourite one of its kind with the mentalist =)
@alexandereklof1555
Күн бұрын
@@storieswithstyle did you read Mr. Ekmans response to each episode going into what is truth & fiction & Hollywood 🙂👍👍
@storieswithstyle
14 сағат бұрын
yeah, the series made me read his bok as well =)
@thedestroyersinofpride7101
12 сағат бұрын
5:35 They suspect there is a second Kira due to the fact that Kira killed INNOCENT news-channel runners, which the real Kira would not have found necessary to do.
@storieswithstyle
12 сағат бұрын
He would, they badmouthed him like lindt taylor 🤔
@R-Chitter
10 сағат бұрын
I’m not religious but I’m fairly sure Virgin Mary with a heart is a common Catholic depiction in line with their beliefs
@storieswithstyle
4 сағат бұрын
Yes, but she clearly is warping thoise beliefs. :D does not need to be satanic, but might also be zealous in general.
@wakaman94
11 сағат бұрын
i think the reason she isn’t as bright is because it’s a pretty reckless thing to do to take a building like that hostage and announce your intentions to the world essentially. up until this point most of his killings were criminals. at least public knowledge was that he only went after those outside of the fake L. only those investigating him knew he was cooking anyone that got in his way too. she kinda ruined his “pr” by publicly threatening innocents and publicly killing officers. but i agree she is quite bright when she wants to be. just sometimes she is too reckless. edit: and she’s kind of a parasocial viewer type. she can be bright but her obsession with kira almost negates it.😂 she might be intelligent but how she uses it is definitely questionable
@finanightmare1993
10 сағат бұрын
Very relatable for a teenage girl I think.
@whybrn3969
14 сағат бұрын
Hi there, i'm loving ur Death Note's reaction so far. Have u ever considering reacting to Arcane ? With season 2 is about to be launched, it would be a prefect timing to get aboard.
@storieswithstyle
13 сағат бұрын
Yeah, i am currently recording it, it is already on patreon up till e3 :)
@Thinkcrown
Күн бұрын
A God of Death-Death, if you will.
@zile8869
21 сағат бұрын
4:30 Again, Light is a psychopath, but he still has his own moral "code" which he finds pride in and follows closely. He would never kill anyone innocent unless he deems it necessary for the greater good. He also wants the public to see Kira as a Just and Divine ruler. So making direct contact with the public, takes away from that divinity. The 'myth of kira' if you will. And killing innocents, also lowers public opinion on Kira. L has noticed this strong moral code/sense of justice Kira has, and has correctly assumed that he wouldnt easy compromise on his morals. He mentioned this "sense of justice" on episode 1 already. And Light's childish desire to win, which L also noticed, is also consistent with the sense of pride he has in his personal morals, and the fact that he would refuse to admit lose by compromising on them. That's why L is so sure about this being a second Kira. It's an entirely different personality. This one is more brazen, less worried about public outcry, kills easier with only a face, and more morally ambiguous. As for why Light kills so many cops: 1. They are evil in his mind since they are directly trying to prevent Kira from making a peaceful world, so they deserve death 2. The trolley problem: either light kills the 'innocent' cops, or he gets caught, and more innocents die at the hands of murders. 3. Self-Defence: Light is gonna keep "helping the world" (as he sees it) irregardless of what others decide to do, but if people insist on trying to catch and kill him, he is fully justified to defend himself, in his mind. As for the "Purse-snatcher" he killed. I am 90% sure that that guy's crime went wrong and he ended up assaulting his victims. That's a violent crime, so Light judges it with violence. Also he was in a situation where he couldn't otherwise kill people with more serious crimes.
@zile8869
20 сағат бұрын
As for L's "argument of consensus" he wasnt saying that since they both came to the same conclusion it's more true. He was saying its "MORE CONVINCING". In other words, if the others didnt take his word for it, maybe they would take Light's. As for 2nd kiras intelligence last episode: she left behind a plethora of physical evidence that light never did due to her brazen attack, and gave some more info about the killing method: other people can use it, some can do so without a name. Also people can have their bright moments without being consistently clever. As for the coincidences. In real life, coincidences happen all the time! It would be more weird if NON happened in this show.
@NameFirst-fb6km
Күн бұрын
Misa is older than light
@rimmallah7611
8 сағат бұрын
Quick note: misa is 19 here she’s not as dumb as you think 🫢
@storieswithstyle
4 сағат бұрын
Misa is really clever, I misjudged her. Wild that she is 19 :D
@otoyayamaguchi659
Күн бұрын
Epic hairline bro
@docopoper
Күн бұрын
Noooo, I lost the game!
@xDporrada
Күн бұрын
She was never clever dude wtf you are smoking?
@storieswithstyle
Күн бұрын
She is really clever. She is just mentally damaged and has iussues that override that when it comes to light personally.
@finanightmare1993
10 сағат бұрын
Aaaah, I need to defend my girl Misa! She is clearly not dumb, you will see that in the future. She is just not as intelligent as the others and also she is naive and spontaneous, so she makes very human like mistakes. And I really understand her, when I was 14 or so I watched Death Note the first time and I was also a big Kira fan and simped for him, haha. I would have done the exact same thing like her. XD
@storieswithstyle
4 сағат бұрын
Misa is cleverer tahn Light I currently think (after ep16). They really did her a bit dirty with many people saying she is dumb, I bought it :D
@finanightmare1993
4 сағат бұрын
@@storieswithstyle Yeah, she is cool and kinda a sweet girl to me, just really mentally ill I believe. :p
@vdinh143
14 сағат бұрын
I'm gonna push back a bit on the consensus topic: It is 100% true that having someone agree with you should not be the *basis* of your argument; you are not 1% more correct because someone else agrees. However, and you know this, it does bolster your confidence in your theory. This is exactly what we do in science: independently coming to the same conclusion to try to discredit it and only allowing our confidence to grow when we fail to do so. If we were concerned with absolute truths, we should be doing philosophy and mathematics. Both real life science and, in this show, solving crimes are about PRACTICAL reasoning. What does it matter if the reasoning is suspect if it pushes the investigation forward? What does it matter that Newton is wrong about mechanics if you can use it to build rollercoasters and trains and airplanes. We're not seeking knowledge for knowledge's sake here; we're trying to catch a guy. EVERYTHING up to this point has been conjecture built upon conjecture. A majority of L's reasoning bases entirely on the foundation of his psychological profile of Kira, which is literally no more than pure guesswork. It's informed guesswork, but it's not the same standard as a modus ponens syllogism. There has never been absolute truth in this show. Even the existence of Kira can turn out to be a really freaky series of coincidence.
@storieswithstyle
14 сағат бұрын
Well, there is objetive truth inscience, but not science itself, it is maths, I would say. But how to interpret that alone is up for debate. There is really a lot less consensus about the latter than people know. I have spent so many hours in rooms with people agreeing on maths of quantum theory and going haywire about their interpreataions. If you give textbook definitions to experts, they will a ttack 90% of them (a collegueof mine did that last week and he caused half a war). The only things that I would say are "consensus" in science are theories. The rest is a lot less consensus as is commonly thought. It is more finding where people agree to disagree and where they only agree, but that is really also different from people to people :D
@vdinh143
13 сағат бұрын
@@storieswithstyleand I think that's how it should be. But that doesn't mean that engineers or even laypeople don't feel more emboldened by findings that have been extensively reproduced than by those without that privilege, all the more so if we stray away from the firm footings of physics and delve deeper into mechanisms we don't have a strong mathematical model for (e.g. the human body, mind, or collective, etc.) I do agree that it's a dangerous mindset. For example, we shouldn't believe in climate change because practically all the climate scientists do; we should form that belief by examining the overwhelming evidence they present. But at the end of the day, neither you nor I will take a de-aging drug that one guy said passed his hypothesis testing.
@finanightmare1993
10 сағат бұрын
Ah and Rem is female not male. ^^ Also Misa liking the idea of death because of love is because of her Gothic aesthetics. Everything related with death is seen as kinda romantic in the gothic scene
@storieswithstyle
4 сағат бұрын
Yeah, I got told, makes more sense as well :D I was told goth means listening to goth music, so I am apparently goth for enjoying nightwish xD
@finanightmare1993
4 сағат бұрын
@@storieswithstyle The Goth philosophy is more complex than just the music, haha. But Nightwish is indeed very nice! :D
@rodjacksonx
Күн бұрын
"Argumentum ad populum" is what we call it in the US. Latin, literally: "argumentation via the populace/masses--claiming a truth or affirming something is good or correct because many people think so."
@russellward4624
Күн бұрын
That doesn't really apply because in this circumstance they're experts. What he's trying to say the fact that they agree isn't the reason we accept the claim. It's the evidence supported in the paper, scientific theory etc..
@rodjacksonx
Күн бұрын
@@russellward4624 - I'm not saying it applies to anything. It was a term he tried to state, but didn't know the US phrase for. I'm pointing out the equivalent term for whatever it was he said in German.
@Persewna4
Күн бұрын
So on the comments on group think, I agree that 1000 people saying the wrong thing does not make it true, but it makes it a lot harder for the 1 to be heard of believed when drowned out by the voices spewing falsehoods. Say you are surrounded by people who all insist that the sky is lime green and grass is pink. You are the only voice stating the sky is blue and grass is green, but no one believes you. There's a good chance that eventually, surrounded by only people speaking falsehoods, that you start to echo them too, just to give yourself a mental and emotional break, because it's easier to agree with the wrong thing everyone says is true, than to fight every day to correct them. ETA: Just to be clear, I'm not saying that's right, just pointing out that psychologically it can be taxing and difficult to be the one clear voice against a sea of lies, and that's often how the truth can get lost when so many people so vocally and ardently express inaccuracies or straight-up falsehoods.
@storieswithstyle
Күн бұрын
That is true, which makes it worse =( there is a famous paper "100 authors against einstein" =D
@Persewna4
Күн бұрын
@@storieswithstyle oh, I absolutely agree, it's very frustrating especially to see it happening in certain groups in society in present day. I'll have to look into that paper, that sounds very interesting! It doesn't surprise me that that happens in the fields of science and math, too, where new ideas are introduced that contradict general consensus up until that point and are shouted down by people who want to keep the status quo rather than do the hard work of reassessing their understanding of their field and potentially revisiting their own work to analyze it through a new lense. Also, I find myself pausing your video to comment just as you pause the episode to comment 😂 which is good, I find your reactions and comments to be thought-provoking and sparking conversations and questions.
@Persewna4
Күн бұрын
I also really like L's human moments (I think one of my favorites was when he first met the task force and smiled at them when saying they would catch Kira together, as this case has forced him to take steps he's never had to before, but it also gives him a team of comrades to work closely with for the first time, not just through Watari and a computer). This moment when he freaks out did seem odd to me too at first, but I wonder if I might react that way too if faced to confront the real possibility of otherworldly entities not only existing but actively interacting with our world. I firmly do not believe in ghosts, spirits, etc, even while getting scared watching movies with such creatures. And for L, this is the second time Shinigami was mentioned by a Kira during this case, basically confirming that Shinigami has something to do with it, that they are dealing with non-human creatures in some capacity... And I wonder if maybe L freaked out, thinking that maybe there was one in the room with him at that moment because Light was with them. L's reaction here is actually really similar to Light's when he first saw Ryuk, even down to falling out of their chairs.
@Persewna4
Күн бұрын
So, my head canon is that Gelus did not have hundreds or thousands of years of life to transfer to Misa. As Ryuk told Light in a previous episode, the Shinigami are bored. They sit around playing card and dices games most of the time, and rarely use their Death Notes. If they saw someone diligently filling out their pages like Light does, he would be mocked for "trying so hard". Basically, it' not in vogue to be an earnest Shinigami, they kill just enough to continue their bleak, dull existence. And Gelus was spending all of his time watching Misa and falling in love with her from afar. Unlike her human stalker, however, Gelus actually did protect her. I really love this element to the story because it means all Misa's actions are done using life that wasn't her own, she is a person who was not supposed to exist in this world. It also makes her eye trade with Rem take on a different meaning, as she spent years that Gelus sacrificed his existence for her to have. Obviously she didn't know that at the time, but I do wonder if her near-death experience changed the way she perceived her time on earth, and meant she values less then potential time she could live in order to focus on and live in the present, knowing that tomorrow is not guaranteed. I also agree that Rem has such a cool design! And last random thought, but I wonder what L would have found out if he had investigated Light's apple-buying habits more closely after receiving that clue 😂 🍎
@fredyfrancisco
43 минут бұрын
Misa was never trying to be like kira or trying to proof that she was kira to beging with, she only wanted to know Who he was because she admire him and did all the tv killing because of that, and that is also the reason why she did the eyes contract to be his partner and help him to "clean" the World, is interesting thoug how you went diferente way with her character
@mrJety89
17 сағат бұрын
She's even more of a psycho than Light.. talking about k. shinigami like it's nothing. People ditto and twice over.
@lkhbbkps36
Күн бұрын
Light's room: typical college student with nothing suspicious. Plain. Misa's room: the freaking Grim Reaper with loads of Christian imagery.
@charles_pensamentocritico
13 сағат бұрын
Imo L has a character flaw of idealizing Kira (as his opponent)
@charles_pensamentocritico
13 сағат бұрын
About the 2nd Kira I think she is clever if you consider her goals (currently: getting the attention of Kira and meeting him), she is getting that.
@thedestroyersinofpride7101
12 сағат бұрын
12:55 The reason that is incorrect is the fact that Kira would not have "had" to kill the innocent to prove he was Kira, he could have simply killed a Criminal at a specific time, where as the (other) Kira could not, as if they did, there was a chance that Light would have already killed said criminal before that time.
@Mordaedil
19 сағат бұрын
12:30 She's wearing CD-PD because they didn't have licensing rights to have a character wear an AC-DC shirt.
@slm0nw174
5 сағат бұрын
she's a psychopath, why? why XD
@ComradeArthur
18 сағат бұрын
You keep focusing on "Kira killed a purse snatcher." yeah, so what? The thing that Kira 2 did that made Light mad was that Kira 2 killed the TV people. Kira kills criminals and people who are trying to catch him. He doesn't mind if somebody on TV disparages Kira - it's more publicity that reminds people they could be killed if they commit a crime. ------ Paintings of the Virgin Mary and a heart are not unusual. They always creeped out. --------- Why did her IQ drop by 70 points. She's not dumb, she's ignorant. She doesn't have Light's background in criminal investigation and doesn't realize how dangerous a game she's playing. Overall Kira 2 is quite smart but everybody looks dumb compared to L and Light. --------- Why is L so shocked at mention of Shinigami that he falls over backward? If this was in the west, imagine if Kira 2 had told Kira "We'll show each other our Grim Reapers" L is a man of science. Throwing in what looks like REAL SUPERNATURAL stuff shocks him. ---------- Kira 2 is a psychopath for the same reason Light is a psychopath. I'll explain my *flawless* analysis after you finish the series. (if I don't forget) ---------- The coincidence of Light and Kira 2 being in the same diner is just artistic license. They could have shown the same dialogue with the being across town. This is more fun and doesn't lead to anything. Nothing the story depends on their proximity in the diner. It also shows they frequent the same area.
@elliotRust29
17 сағат бұрын
7:15 Of course L knows that and doesn't believe that just because someone else agrees that means it's true, but he literally says ''with you coming to the same conclusion as I did, [...] You've been of great assistance to me, Light'' while staring him dead in the eye, note that he's like 90% sure that Light is Kira, it's obvious that what he means is ''I just asked you because I know you're proud and you're gonna confirm my suspicions, thanks for proving this kira is not you but another one''. Saying that he asked him because ''it's not convincing if it's just one person'' is literally just making up an excuse lol L wouldnt care if he's believable, he knows what he knows. I feel like with every episode you become more and more nitpicky just to disagree with something The second Kira come off as ''not so bright'' because she acts impulsively and not according to Kira's morals, a bit off character, which is what gave her away that she's just a copycat
@danraider482
20 сағат бұрын
>Strawmans Light >Why isn't he acting like my strawman, so illogical L doesn't care about consensus, he cares that Light who he suspects as Kira thinks the same
@supremegodemperorpalpatine4872
Күн бұрын
A Shinigami falling in love with a human would be like a human falling in love with a goldfish. Granted, Misa's more like one of those expensive tropical fish, but still...
@Nauma3
18 сағат бұрын
The difference between Shinigamis in the world of Death Note and Grim Reapers is that they don't come to collect your soul when your time comes, Shinigamis actually steal your lifespan by killing you way before your expiration date. That's why Misa didn't die by a heart attack, her name wasn't written on a death note, that was her death time and she was supposed to be killed by that man.. She isn't supposed to be alive now, and I think that's why the punishment for extending people's lives is for whoever does it to perish and, ironically enough, pass their remaining lifetime to the person they saved.
@Yascher322
18 сағат бұрын
How i see it, Light is trying to achieve control by fear, and he kinda understands how control works. You can't get control just by showing power (it will simply lead to revolt), with power you should also establish some rules, that should be simple. Light had rules: 1) i'll kill you if you criminal, 2) i'll kill you if you stand against me. Second Kira showed by killing just some tv presenter that there are no rules, just power (what is the last thing those in control want people to know). That's why L calls second Kira not so bright. sorry my english bad
@Nauma3
17 сағат бұрын
I like your god of luck theory, and I'm glad that you're noticing the pattern of luck following Light already.. The writer tried to get away with it by making his main character say it out loud, but let's see how that plays out
@cabbage_cat
21 сағат бұрын
It's so subtle but the way fake kira talk is very different from the 'letter' that kira wrote to L In the letter kira used casual Japanese but the fake kira in the Sakura TV used polite Japanese
@Kandarako
15 сағат бұрын
the reason Light say is a 2nd kira is how he killed de people arriving the tv station. Not because he only killed people who oppose him, but because until now it was stated that he needed the face and name of the people being killed, and this time he only saw the faces.
@DundG
19 сағат бұрын
I'm not sure if Misa is ever mentioned to be japanese. She is a famous model that surely travels a lot for shootings and it surely is public knowledge that Kira resided in Japan, Chinjuku, as Kiras supporters shared the challenge L made to Kira and some crazed fans wanting to find Kira. So she could travel there to search for Kira. Of course nobody knows if Kira is still in Japan, but she took she shot anyway because which other information does she have? So it's not necessarily a convenience that both Death Node owners are in Japan!
@7thDilemma
19 сағат бұрын
I have been enjoying these reactions, but to be honest I am unsure why you feel that the Second Kira is initially built up to be intellegent (especially compared to Light or L) or acting in a way similar to the Real Kira. The plan with the tv station was clearly well planned out, it was also completely wreckless. And from the Real Kira's perspective entirely unecessary. Also, mentioning the eyes is a huge blunder. Revealing anything with regard to the nature or the function of the Death Note would be incredibly misguided. Even if mentioning the eyes doesn't make sense now it may in the future, and even without understanding what it means it still reveals/confirms that there is a difference in the 2 kira's abilities and/or tools. Granted, the Second Kira thinks they are talking to the Real Kira, but that doesn't make it any less foolish without having any way to confirm that as fact before speaking so candidly.
@umechanx00
Күн бұрын
34:46 Yup. It's called an author lol. Light is right, God is on his side. Because God wants to make an engrossing show haha.
@shiggy_0297
18 сағат бұрын
Little funfact to L's reaction to the "eyes" misa mentioned: there is a light novel about the BB muders that was mentioned (The one case where naomi was working under L in LA). In that light novel the murder (known as beyond birthday=BB) was someone who was born with the eyes of a shinigami without him having any connections to the death note at all. L couldnt piece ut together at that time but later when he found out about the shinigamis and eyes (that moment) he was able to piece something together. Tho its just a head canon but still interesting to think about.
@silnot8235
Күн бұрын
When the fake Kira said about 'Shinigami' things, L would immediately think of the Light's word 'L, do You know? a Shinigami only eats apples.' at that moment and must have been perfectly sure. oh, stupid Light again. because of his cheap arrogance, he walked himself into his coffin.
@aidarosullivan5269
23 сағат бұрын
Seems like you loves to overthink every moment of anime, so may I recommend you Psycho Pass, I believe it's right up your alley
@gabrielesolletico6542
Күн бұрын
"Oh God please, don't make her dumb! Noooo" ahahahaha too late for that, my friend! I read that, in an interview, the author said that the main reason she introduced Misa Misa in the story was "To don't make the average reader/viewer (depending on if you're reading the manga or watching the anime) feel too dumb, in comparison with Light and L" AHAHAHAHAHAHAH!
@Ukyo14.
Күн бұрын
No, what Misa did is not "smart". The only reason she had an advantage is because of her eyes, but she basically gave L a place to find the 100% Kira. And as we saw, it backfired. And in the next chapters you will see how wrong she was from the beginning.
@09mrghost90
Күн бұрын
So i hope now you can understand what i have said last time about the writing on the Naomi ep...
@AgonizingDemise
22 сағат бұрын
Just because someone is bubbly and naive doesn't mean she can't also be smart. That being said I don't think Misa is super smart but she has some sense of logic.
@requiemdermorgenrote4465
18 сағат бұрын
The final scene of this episode where they happen to be in the same place wasn't in the manga, this was a random little scene inserted into the anime and doesn't really make much sense to be canon considering context from later, I don't know that they thought too hard about it but the original author at least had nothing to do with that scene being there
@Belbecat
Күн бұрын
I think the main difference is real Kira wouldn't have done something like broadcast big announcements on TV. It's like the difference between someone who makes silent donations to a cause and someone who publicizes it - sure they might both have the same thoughts about the situation and are doing the same thing but they are clearly quite different.
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