Good idea using the boring bar as a fly cutter. I probably have to mill the head on my old Continental powered forklift motor (it's pushing a little coolant which I guess is common with them) and I didn't know what I was going to do it with. I noticed the tip in the comments here setting it up slightly out of tram to cut with only the leading edge. I'll have to remember that if I do end up milling that head myself.
@Go69
Жыл бұрын
I do the same thing here at my shop on my mill. ZERO problems doing it this way. I've done countless LS heads and have not had any head gasket issues to date... I'd be MORE concerned about bolting a perfectly flat head, onto a warped engine block deck. It seems that is a common problem on the LS motors. Wish I could mount my engine block in my mill and surface the block that way... maybe something I should attempt here in the near future.
@santboiboi375
Жыл бұрын
Parece un buen trabajo 👌! Unas pocas más de rpm y lubricar con petróleo con aceite ! Solo es una sugerencia!! Saludos
@Haydeewaydee
4 ай бұрын
How much do you think it would cost to get my heads shaved? I have 2 heads off a 1982 Honda gold wing gl1100
@frankish5314
Жыл бұрын
Do you put the head slightly out of tram so the flycutter only cuts on the leading edge? Seems you don't have enough table travel for the cutter to clear the cutter on the trailing edge.. Or am I missing something?
@LS_Eh
Жыл бұрын
You are correct, good eye! it's out of tram. 0004
@frankish5314
Жыл бұрын
@@LS_Eh Not my good eye.. I have a knee mill with only about 24 inch or so of travel (32 inch table) and want to fly cut a cylinder head or two so I'm stuck with only being able to use the leading edge.. So I was making sure the out of tram was an acceptable method. Thanks for the info..:)
@wombats465
Жыл бұрын
Wouldn't having the head slightly out of tram mean that the fly cutter is cutting a parabola where it's lower towards the center? Or maybe the gasket makes up for that slight deviation.. ?
@LS_Eh
Жыл бұрын
@@wombats465 unfortunately yes, you do add an error in the deck surface doing it this way. Like a dish in the center, But the cylinder head still comes out within spec. Unfortunately Don't have other options when using a smaller mill!
@frankish5314
Жыл бұрын
@@wombats465 From what I have heard, the amount of "parabolaness" is very slight and gradually sloping. The gasket has no issue with this..
@guytech7310
Жыл бұрын
What you need is a two piece vise that clamps to the milling table. You can set the jaw opening to about 85% of the table length. The way you are clamping the head down is super sketchy in my opinion.
@LS_Eh
Жыл бұрын
No need to spend more money, I've never had an issue doing it this way! Especially when the doc is so small.
@Dane33781
Жыл бұрын
Those are 799 heads. They mostly came on 4.8s and 5.3s and a few 6.0s.
@robertoudokrapf453
9 ай бұрын
OLÁ. Observei que não completastes o "passe" no aplainar o cabeçote. Isto significa que o acabamento superficial é SEM CRUZAMENTO. É uma prova que não existe planicidade. ABRAÇOS... Roberto Udo Krapf
@lucasenerson8986
Жыл бұрын
What's the purpose of using a boring bar for this cut?
@LS_Eh
Жыл бұрын
I just didn't have a fly cutter or a shell mill big enough so I used the boring bar as a fly cutter
@lucasenerson8986
Жыл бұрын
@@LS_Eh got it. Great video mate 👍🏻
@ebayollis
6 ай бұрын
What length is the table on thus mill?
@LS_Eh
6 ай бұрын
I have since sold this mill, but if I remember right it was a 36" table. Need the length of cylinder head + cutter Dia for the needed travel.
@ebayollis
6 ай бұрын
@@LS_Eh I have a bridgeport and was thinking about doing some v8 5.3 heads ...it has a 42" table
@lste
Жыл бұрын
That's not a Bridgeport mill.
@LS_Eh
Жыл бұрын
You are correct! In the video description it is described as Bridgeport "style".
@mickymcfarts5792
Жыл бұрын
@@LS_Ehthat’s dishonest
@brownh2orat211
10 ай бұрын
What type of mill do you have???
@strykerjones8842
9 ай бұрын
@@LS_EhYea but it’s not a “Bridgeport” style either. It doesn’t have a rotating turret, not sure if the head can nod and it looks to have a horizontal spindle. The words to describe this style machine tool is “Knee Mill”. It looks like a good machine, just call it what it is.
@LS_Eh
9 ай бұрын
@@strykerjones8842 people get stuck on the terminology and miss the point of the video, knee mill doesn't get views, as a lot of people uneducated in machinery/machining call them a Bridgeport.
@irish-simon
9 ай бұрын
bad choice of insert
@buyamerican3191
Жыл бұрын
.007 was a pretty heavy cut for the first one and it appeared that it might have cleaned up with .005.
@slobodanmilosevic3338
Жыл бұрын
Thinking the same thing. Less is more
@theprankbattles
9 ай бұрын
Or two passes at .0025
@lucysmith4242
4 ай бұрын
.007 is fine, it's aluminum don't be a pussy haha
@automan1223
Жыл бұрын
make sure you put a flat bar on the head when you are done. many bridgeports have unacceptable level of wear that causes the head to be cut with a "bow". your cutting tool also needs to be able to come completely off the head when the cut is done.
@LS_Eh
Жыл бұрын
This mill works very well and wasn't used much in its life. Over the whole area I get consistently around .003 flatness, tested on a Mititoyo CMM at my old workplace. Which is well within spec.
@danwesterberg3956
Жыл бұрын
wear will not cut surface with a 'bow'....your head not being trammed in to within .001 will do it
@patkirk960
Жыл бұрын
Good shout. I used to use a pretty new Bridgeport after approx 7 years of use I accidentally cut the bed at least 8 tho deep. Embarrassing! The design of those mills is lacking at the extremes of X axis travel
@kamper4140
Жыл бұрын
Thats not so much from wear, more the mill head not being trammed correctly and cutting a radius on the surface. You can cut big radi using a fly cutter and tipping the mill head.
@snowasian
5 ай бұрын
.003" variance is acceptable? @@LS_Eh
@doncoyle7781
6 күн бұрын
Great video! your shop built flycutter may not be a thing of beauty, but results are what matter and it sure seemed to produce results. Well done.
@tallentchingovo3917
Жыл бұрын
How many machines do you need to start a cylinder head skimming workshop? Which ones are they?
@fredflintstone8048
Жыл бұрын
The nice thing about his approach is that the average machinist will often have a bridgeport or clone of a knee mill. I have a bridgeport in my shop. I use it for all my milling needs which are many, and even though it takes more time and effort to set up to do a decent job of milling an engine head, as infrequent as he may do them, and the money he may make or not make doing heads doesn't warrant the expense of buying a machine designed and dedicated to milling heads. I feel for what he had to work with he did an excellent job. The important thing of course is getting the set up right with tramming the head, the spindle, etc.
@phillhuddleston9445
2 ай бұрын
@@fredflintstone8048 setup is 90 percent of the job, bad setup equals bad outcome.
@v8packard
Жыл бұрын
I am curious if any wear in the table or saddle of the mill translated into up and down movement of the head during the cut. If so, it looked like that machine also has a horizontal spindle. If that is a horizontal spindle, you could change your setup slightly, and eliminate any variation in the saddle and table affecting the cut. Thanks for the video.
@PLUSHAIRPLANECARPET
Жыл бұрын
there is slop in every system
@wally7856
10 ай бұрын
@@PLUSHAIRPLANECARPET Even more slop in a clapped out Bridgeport.
@lucysmith4242
4 ай бұрын
Man you should see the shit OEMs put out haha
@siliconvalleyengineer5875
Жыл бұрын
Good job
@deakindog7525
Жыл бұрын
easy setup on that head. there are machines (i have one) that could do that in a couple minutes. good video
@kooldoozer
Жыл бұрын
Fray mill with a NMTB30 spindle. --Doozer
@LS_Eh
Жыл бұрын
Yes! I Couldn't remember the name of the spindle taper while filming. This Frey mill has since been sold for a machine better suited for my use.
@fransiscoh9450
Жыл бұрын
I’m getting my heads rebuilt n milled as well going 20 down as in 20 thousands down I really don’t know much about the difference it makes about what Hp gain would I get?
@LS_Eh
Жыл бұрын
I'm not too sure honestly! Compression helps throughout the curve. Not sure of the net gain!
@Anmool-Batain
3 ай бұрын
Sir, you need an honest man to do the job of head. So please tell me? I am expert in all types of vehicle head work.
@LS_Eh
3 ай бұрын
@@Anmool-Batain not sure what you're asking here!
@bad406camaro
9 ай бұрын
Great video. Have wanted for a while to convert Vanorman 570 to pdc/cbn cutter head but due to cost I have not been able (I am retired) I use my Bridgeport for a similar operation. One issue I have found is the valve cover rail is parallel to the Spring seat, but the deck is rarely parallel to the valve cover rail. Usually only a few thousandths off But I have seen over .010 + tip from one side to the other on many sets. I assume this is production issue, but it only causes minor chamber volume changes. If you do any volume, try a Korloy RCGT1003MO-AK. Will not finish like a CBN/PCD but is very cost effective and Labor effective over 3- or 4-point cutters. They support a slower spindle speed and faster feed rates found on some mills Such as the 570 while still giving Sub 50 RA. With Higher spindle speeds sub 30 is easy
@TheChrisey
Жыл бұрын
That looks like an ISO30 taper
@billshiff2060
Жыл бұрын
Don't try that on an over head cam head.
@samstewart4807
Жыл бұрын
lol your table has too much "rock" in it you will mill a curve int the deck
@LS_Eh
Жыл бұрын
A Mititoyo CMM said otherwise 👍
@omcdude64
7 ай бұрын
What does LS mean?
@phillhuddleston9445
2 ай бұрын
It's just a type of engine made by GM that unfortunately isn't made anymore, I'm guessing because they last too long!
@wakbreng6161
8 ай бұрын
Asking sir.. 1 tao = mm?
@LS_Eh
8 ай бұрын
= .0254 mm
@jrpo6379
Жыл бұрын
Shaving the head doesn't take the warp out of the head.
@LS_Eh
Жыл бұрын
It will correct the deck surface which is mated to the block, you can add an error in flatness (warp) by just clamping it incorrectly. I have tested it with several different knee mills and on a Mititoyo CMM I can get around .003 flatness on the surface which is within spec! 🙂
@milosmilanko4472
Жыл бұрын
idiot
@nikkapubess3349
7 ай бұрын
Wish I could own something like this for personal use
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