I wholeheartedly believe Moria is an endgame ally of the Straw Hats. He's developed as a potential dark timeline Luffy if they sailed to Wano unprepared and lost, and we don't know what he was like before that. Even after Moria lost his entire crew he still didn't give up, and his turn in tactics was explained as being because he cared for his crew and didn't want to lose them again, that drive and caring combined makes Moria in some ways even more Luffy-like than Blackbeard. I also like to point out when it comes to Moria's low strength that he is the definition of out of practice, and we have no idea how close to the strength of his generation at present he was in his prime since he largely just...stopped progressing in order to bide his time and raise his Shadow Army
@JohnLee-qz6fk
Жыл бұрын
I like this ..... Moria highly underrated imo
@NphiniT
Жыл бұрын
He's stupid. He didn't need to fight the straw hats. He should have just let them waste their time on Oars. At day break, they'd all be dead
@CharJ.6
Жыл бұрын
@@NphiniT Technically true, would've been a big dumb end to the series though
@derrickmiles5240
Жыл бұрын
@@NphiniT I mean, unless they found shelter. Remember, there were a ton of people living on the island without shadows. Moria probably let them, because if they died, he would lose their shadows.
@NphiniT
Жыл бұрын
@@derrickmiles5240 By the way, why did his abilities work at marineford? 😂
@SunilDhakal
Жыл бұрын
Afro luffy is stronger..
@AhmedAbdalaa
Жыл бұрын
True 😂
@Yumemaru.
Жыл бұрын
Facts.
@skyliders9117
Жыл бұрын
Facts
@drawstash1868
Жыл бұрын
You are forgetting about my boy water Luffy
@juanignaciolerzo426
Жыл бұрын
AND manly
@FreeDerry
Жыл бұрын
If nightmare Luffy had the combined experience of 100 people including some experienced marines, wouldn't it be likely that he had haki as well.
@rome-tk5vd
Жыл бұрын
ofc, more than likely considering how prominent haki is to the new world
@vegitasama7633
Жыл бұрын
learning haki puts you into captain or vice admiral position so the said skilled swordsmen shadow along with other may have possesed haki but there were more people in luffy [pause] that didnt knew haki thats why it would overwhelm him, like how whitbeard couldnt use haki cause he was too old and overwhelmed
@ojaman7144
Жыл бұрын
The feat of him completely negging Oars’ punch could’ve had haki on it, because before the time skip Haki wasn’t shown and you only knew someone was using it if they said it explicitly. Nightmare Luffy having haki wouldn’t be out of place, and would explain how much damage he did to Oars.
@idreadFell365
Жыл бұрын
That what I was thinking, some of those shadows might’ve had Haki.
@possiblyzero3582
11 ай бұрын
I don't think that haki experience can be learned by absorbing shadows. I think it's something you need hands on training with for a long time before being able to replicate, even if you "know" how to use it.
@thomasdahlberg5920
Жыл бұрын
Also take this into account if Moria is working with the Strawhats. When luffy took the nightmare form, he did that without Moria's permission or knowledge. He had to hold the shadows in himself with his own willpower. If Moria is working with him in tandem, he might be able to do that work for him, letting him be able to more easily retain his own personality. Maybe even an indefinite period of time, as long as Moria is there to keep it up.
@GoatAmv
Жыл бұрын
His strongest move as of the latest chapter is his gear 5th Barjung Gun that is infused with advanced conquerors haki.
@9hundun516
Жыл бұрын
& Adv Armament cmon man can't forget that Adv Coc alone wasn't putting down Kaido especially not while he's covered in flame like that
@eddyd.newgate2073
Жыл бұрын
ok,
@thatoneguyftl2530
Жыл бұрын
@@9hundun516 You've got it backwards there, Luffy knew advanced armament going into the fight but learned advanced conquerors thanks to getting hit by Kaido repeatedly lmao
@ChocolateBadness
Жыл бұрын
Bajarang gatling gun gonna go hard.
@9hundun516
Жыл бұрын
@@thatoneguyftl2530 Its so funny that you said that when me & him are talking about 1 singular attack (bajarang gun) which was infused with both Adv Coc & Adv Arms lmao.... young bull tryna correct something that doesn't need to be corrected
@RobbieJacobs_Talks
Жыл бұрын
Crazy thought... What if Rocks D Xebec was the previous owner of Morias fruit and the reason why it took both roger and garp to take him down is because he was eating all the shadows of his crew that lost the davey back fights?
@jonny2682
Жыл бұрын
Yea. I would actually love that
@coyburney1048
Жыл бұрын
But then why didn’t he use big momz Kaido,shiki,and whitebeards?
@MaxsRandomBS
Жыл бұрын
I can kinda see that
@MaxsRandomBS
Жыл бұрын
@@coyburney1048 Bc they are his heavy hitters, taking away their shadow will make him the only heavy hitter which is a major nerf, he would have to solo the whole marine and the roger pirate which is extremely hard
@joenoodle6914
Жыл бұрын
@@coyburney1048 taking the shadow doesn't mean you can use the df. oars was only able to use luffy's df through moria manipulating his shadow, so as far as replicating dfs goes, the most they could do is replicate the mere shape of zoans
@ryanmattson140
Жыл бұрын
Cannot believe people willingly skip arcs like thriller bark, favorite arc by far
@annaroselarsen4218
Жыл бұрын
Yesssssss
@obmis_arraid21
Жыл бұрын
This legitimately the first time I've seen someone claiming thriller bark is his favorite arc. Thriller back is indeed under appreciated.
@AshrafHossain-sm2ec
Жыл бұрын
I skipped it because nothing happened in the arc.
@_executie
Жыл бұрын
i dont understand why anyone would skip ANY arc tbh...
@gurdemandboi3002
Жыл бұрын
Honestly almost every aspect of it is so underrated, sure the middle part is really slow, and some of the character designs are acquired tastes, but it has some crazy peaks, and SHs vs. Oars/Moria is in my top 3 fights, team fights are just awesome, wish we had more of them. Showcases both the best and worst of Oda.
@aboringotakuwhoisntnamedkyle
Жыл бұрын
I like that nobody realizes nightmare luffy never used gear 2 or 3 which would greatly multiply his speed and power which could totally level all playing fields
@Somebeedude
Жыл бұрын
Gear 2 nightmare luffy would go hard
@liyalee7725
Жыл бұрын
he couldn't go gear 2 because his shadow was taken
@terryabracey237
Жыл бұрын
@@liyalee7725 Luffys shadow being taken doesn't mean his powers were taken.
@asherbeck4001
Жыл бұрын
@@terryabracey237 but the knowledge to know how to do it was
@lemecpaume
Жыл бұрын
@@asherbeck4001Wtf do you mean? Luffy used gear 2 and 3 during his final fight with Moria and did not have his shadow
@smjaiteh
Жыл бұрын
I will comment that Thriller Bark is actually a severely underrated arc, even though it’s not as good as the two sagas sandwiched in between both. I think the hate thrown its way is more intense than it is warranted. It’s just really funny.
@tahmaskenchers1782
Жыл бұрын
I watched some guy reacting to it and it is one of the arc that sanji actually calls zoro by his name and he Fucks with the timeline. In the arc he claims he left the Baratier 3 years ago.
@PlagueOfGripes
Жыл бұрын
If Luffy today could either use one or the other, taking in all those shadows may even make him weaker. If it's diluting his own personality and that's what drives his haki and awakening, he may end up with a much stronger and more informed brain base, but a less focused set of powers. Basically, jack of all trades and master of none. If it doesn't affect him at all, then why not both?
@animeworld5847
Жыл бұрын
Haki is supposedly all about willpower. So I believe he could affirm himself and let his personality run free no matter how much we try to dilute it.
@fakeletobr730
Жыл бұрын
if gear 5 makes luffy not stop laughing, if we mix this with the opposite effect, they would probably nulify each other, meaning that luffy would be normal with haki and way more stronger than gear 5 because all shadows in new world would be completly different then trhiller bark, meaning a way more stronger raw nightmare luffy and even more stronger because would be a gear 5 basse luffy multiplied by the capabilitys of the shadows he gets, keep in mind, the amount of shadows you can absorb is equal to how much your will is, trhiller bark luffy could bear 100, time skip i think would be double, wano luffy with advanced emperor's haki could possibly get to 500 shadows and gear 5 i think can do double it, meaning that it would be like giant Moria with a few more shadows being from new world and not from there where he picked all of those, the shadows from wano would give way more power to luffy, gear 5 nightmare luffy possibly would be the last form, because in base would be giant just like the gear 5 giant form, and with gear 5 it would make luffy become not giant but on the size bigger than entire islands, but well, all that could posssibly be wrong, nothing is for sure
@jefrey488
Жыл бұрын
@@animeworld5847but the concept of trapping shadows into his body contradicts one aspect of becoming Luffy, Because Luffy is free, Luffy is Liberation, Then ba dum ba dum the Drums of Liberation.
@tiago2336
Жыл бұрын
Thats not how stuff works bro... if you add a lot of skill to a lot of stuff that doesn't mean that you loose all your other skills 😂 You know something called logic? Also, a lot of shadows would still have each its interest, which means that basically they wouldnt all be fighting as a group, but individually, it would be a royal rumble. Luffy's personality is really defined, he wouldnt lose his shit. Wouldn't make any sense at all 😂
@tiago2336
Жыл бұрын
@@jefrey488 this makes a lot more sense.
@TehWhiteTiger
Жыл бұрын
I do hope Moria becomes relevant again. I think demonstrating how powerful his devil fruit could be would actually explain why he was Kaido's rival. If Moria had not lost his way and was able to actually control those 1000 shadows he would have been a force to be reckoned with.
@Tiberium10332
Жыл бұрын
Moria as a support for Blackbeard could be extreme. Imagine Moria infuses Blackbeard with some shadows of his crew. Yes, it would only last 10 minutes, but as a ultimate climax.. That would be really a power to destroy the world.
@henrysiemer5320
Жыл бұрын
I am willing to believe that the Moria Luffy fought was not peak Moria, but one who let himself go while he wallowed in negative emotions. The key evidence for me is the Wano flashback showing younger Moria as lean, fit, and most importantly leading his crew from the front. Thriller Bark Moria only resorted to fighting himself when he had no other options.
@AshBlossomWorshiper
Жыл бұрын
We're definitely gonna see him soon. Perona literally told Koby "I'll help you escape if you save Moria" Koby has practically escaped so we're about to see big daddy M really soon
@Wa-igi
Жыл бұрын
@@henrysiemer5320 the entire reason why he got weaker was not because of him letting himself go cause if you compare prime Gecko Moria to present Gecko Moria present Gecko Moria wins in physical strength since he is 5 times bigger than prime Gecko Moria and bulkier the main reason why he got weaker was his abandment in fighting for long time as said before by Jinbei to Gecko Moria "perhaps you should start training more",in conclusion if Gecko Moria was still fighting poeple and honing his skills while building his zombie army after his defeat to kaido he we would be much stronger and even stronger than himself in his prime
@orangebear8317
Жыл бұрын
@@Tiberium10332 and knowing Blackbeard, he wouldn’t hesitate to steal anyone’s shadow… even his crew mates
@ismaelpena8555
Жыл бұрын
Liam: "People gives far to much credit to Haki in terms of fighting" Kaido while fighting Gear 5 Luffy: "HAKI RULES THE WORLD"
@dontmisunderstand6041
Жыл бұрын
Kaido the failed conqueror may not be the best source of information on how to rule.
@ismaelpena8555
Жыл бұрын
@@dontmisunderstand6041 well, lets not forget that Oda is the one who is making this statement through Kaido, if we also take in account Kaido's role in the series as someone with a huge amount of battle experience, I think its safe to assume this as true (for now).
@dontmisunderstand6041
Жыл бұрын
@@ismaelpena8555 Characters are fallible, and so is the author. It's also a statement that fairly directly contradicts Kaido's own story... haki was NOT the reason he was able to rule. It wasn't even a relevant factor.
@ismaelpena8555
Жыл бұрын
@@dontmisunderstand6041 correct, that's why I said "for now", only Oda can make this statement to be false in the future by introducing an counter-argument from a more reliable character/source. With the information we have now and the fact that without Haki Luffy was not able to make an scratch to Kaido or any other major character pre-time skip, its safe to say that Haki its really important in terms of fighting.
@dontmisunderstand6041
Жыл бұрын
@@ismaelpena8555 At what point do you imagine anybody who knows haki is not using haki to fight? How would you test the claim that Luffy couldn't hurt Kaido without haki when the baseline assumption is that people who know haki are using it whenever it helps them? For the record, the literal first interaction between Kaido and Luffy involves Luffy hurting Kaido. And then Kaido retaliating with significantly more impact.
@TheWarmachine375
Жыл бұрын
2:29 I wonder if Shakky did know the secret to eternal youth and made herself forever young like Dr. Kureha had.
@irradiatedpacific
Жыл бұрын
I do think there’s a scenario/concept i’ve always wondered about, and that’s about giving Luffy the shadow of someone that really, genuinely trusts him with their life, like the straw hats. If the actual people love Luffy so much they’re willing to sail into Hell with him, then I imagine it’s possible the shadows might recognize him and be willing to work with him as long as needed, and only return once Luffy allows them to leave.
@faedragonlucy
Жыл бұрын
I could've sworn Boundman perception-blitzed Doffy. I distinctly remember Doffy attempting to hit an incoming-Luffy with an attack, only for Luffy to effectively disappear and reappear behind him landing a Rhino Schneider. I don't remember how it was portrayed in the manga, but the anime showed Doflamingo completely unaware of Luffy's presence right up until he got hit.
@Aurraislame
Жыл бұрын
Yeah he just thinks bound man is slower because he doesn’t realize that Navi and ussop people with barely any good perception feats at that point couldn’t perceive him moving and bound man when scaled to stronger opponents oda makes him easier to see
@Aurraislame
Жыл бұрын
And he blitzed kat without future sight
@willbrashear
Жыл бұрын
Nightmare Luffy just went Nah.... that is best line. I love Liam's comedy.
@SkepticSkepto
Жыл бұрын
Moria’s fruit actually has so much potential uses if he was as creative as luffy, since if he can alter the shapes of shadows, then could he turn them into weapons and use them? He could do a hell of a lot more than he has been shown to do if he was more creative
@philharmonicaz
Жыл бұрын
Guys, guys. Nightmare Luffy with all of the Strawhats shadows. Game over.
@leonsmuk4461
Жыл бұрын
Since Luffy has trained his conquerors Haki a lot, I doubt he'd be psychologically influenced by the shadows at all. Just like how Moria only got srtonger by absorbing shadows I think with a big enough gap in power between you and the shadows you absorb, there's no chance any of their personalities come through to the surface.
@Hatshidoro
Жыл бұрын
luffy turning into nightmare luffy now would be scary af. thriller bark was in a time were luffy (and alot of the crew i guess) were carefree. That changes after the donut incident, and gets even more serious after the second donut incident. that base carefreeness of pre timeskip luffy musst count for something xD
@spenserjordan6637
Жыл бұрын
With the whole imagination power of gear 5 I’d love to see gear 5 remember how it felt to be nightmare luffy and replicated it. A hellish version of gear 5 would be amazing
@siixdxebec
Жыл бұрын
i was just rewatching thriller bark, nightmare luffy was soooo coooool
@YataVSTheWorld
Жыл бұрын
The parallel of Nightmare Luffy as an anti-Nika is quite disturbing if some theoris about Oz be Joy Boy (and so the former Nika) are true because it would mean that other Zoro VS Ryuma, we had another Past VS Present fight due the Moria's powers
@AmarnaofLife
Жыл бұрын
8:57 I never thought of the possibility of Rocks D. Xebec being the Fusion of one hundred 7 years olds, nice theory you got there👍👌
@southernstorm3218
Жыл бұрын
I allwase get so hyped for a new food from u bro
@G.A.M.E.R.-
Жыл бұрын
Just rewatched Thriller Bark with a buddy as he makes his way through the series, and yeah Nightmare Luffy was absurd, I genuinely think he may be able to go toe to toe with Kaido for a small amount of time
@legend1756
Жыл бұрын
Tbh, I think nightmare luffy could come back in a different form such as when luffy is angry. I mean Luffy for most parts is happy but they have been instance where rage & despair drives the wheel such as the time against Kaido so I believe that when Luffy is enraged or despair's the Sun God will manifest in a different form similar to that of nightmare luffy.
@wykon6700
Жыл бұрын
I had that Idea in my head for a while now, wouldn't it be cool to see a Bound-man-esque form but mixed up with the physical amps and changes ? Perhaps Gear fifth's form turns dark rather than white when Luffy transforms while holding negative feelings/intentions (and he loses his signature smile)
@AirshipFury
Жыл бұрын
A vomitorium isn't a place for puking, but rather a place where people exit a coliseum from
@cipherP9
Жыл бұрын
Nightmare Luffy’s durability was tested a little. Just before his last attack, Oars was trying to hit Luffy with a stomp and Luffy shrugged it off continuing his attack like nothing ever happened to him.
@Mike-cv7do
Жыл бұрын
Hey Liam i noticed that your thumbnails are getting super good, great job man
@guyatwork5527
Жыл бұрын
I love that Shadow Luffy and ancient giants become somewhat of a benchmark of power. Shadow Luffy stomps Oars. Doflamingo stomps Oars Jr. Gear 4th Luffy stomps Doflamingo. Gear 4th Luffy stomps a Wano Ancient Giant.
@00monkeydude001
Жыл бұрын
it upsets me when bound man is a topic and rhino Schneider never gets brought up. its so cool
@GoatAmv
Жыл бұрын
Chapter Title: The will of D. Chapter begins where last chapter left off, Imu revealed themselves in front of Cobra and the five elders Imu is still a silhouette, Cobra is still in shock at what he’s seeing but notices the gorosei are kneeling Imu asks Cobra if he really wants to know what the will of D is, Cobra confirms that the letter passed down along the nefetari family holds such information but he wanted to test the gorosei himself Imu is not surprised by this as they even mention Lili was characteristic of doing such a thing Cobra demands to know what happened to Lili and Imu declares “Lili failed and couldn’t even stay loyal to a friend despite craving their help in a time of need” Cobra doesn’t understand this and asks foe elaboration but Imu has had enough and gets up off the throne and walks towards Cobra At this point, however, Sabo barges into the room at views what is unfolding Imu stares at Sabo and is reminded of a person they once knew presumably (we see the person and they look alot like Sabo) Cobra’s wheelchair turns to particles leaving Cobra on the ground Imu, the gorosei, and Sabo all stand over Cobra, take off their pants and run a train on him. Imu grunts and utters “Bet the letter didn’t say anything about this will of D” They all continue to rail Cobra and give him backshots
@FNCSBossBaby
Жыл бұрын
How long did it take just too write this amazing story?❤ It
@GoatAmv
Жыл бұрын
@@aymanmiri111 😂fr
@adrianortiz3392
Жыл бұрын
I agree, If Moria took only hundredths of shadow he can easy sweep Luffy but he decided to take thousands which he cannot handle.
@joonaheikkero432
Жыл бұрын
There’s a great theory that the 9 God Knights have Joyboy’s crew’s shadows inside them and they will be the final matchup for the Straw Hats🤯
@vorutouzamaki2635
Жыл бұрын
Dude that impenetrable joke was hilarious!!!😭😭😭 you sir win in one piece break downs 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼
@josephreagan9545
Жыл бұрын
If Pudding were to awaken her DF, could she make Luffys body "remember" it's nightmare Luffy form and allow Luffy to transform back into nightmare Luffy even without moria?
@suneelj93
Жыл бұрын
No. That makes no sense.
@tedbaiter9858
Жыл бұрын
From the hunter channel, didnt realise you had a one piece one, love the vids!
@kingo_clubs9097
Жыл бұрын
Nice video, but I noticed a discrepancy. Multiple times you said nightmare luffy had the experience of 101 people, counting luffy. But luffys shadow was in oars at the time. If luffy just got his own shadow back, that would be a MASSIVE powerup on its own. But if the goofball that is gecko moria was able to manage a thousand shadows, I'm guessing that current luffy would probably get a 1 million shadow form.
@IzzySarru
Жыл бұрын
Why would getting his shadow back power him up though? You only get a powerup from OTHER shadows because they give you experience that is not your own. It's not like any of the Strawhats lost their abilities upon losing their shadow.
@pflynn12
Жыл бұрын
5:04 Forgive me if I come across as a smart ass but you could call the red line a continent since it goes around the world like a ring
@ACMR6297
Жыл бұрын
Sometimes we forget that Moria once challenged Kaido for supremacy. Granted, perhaps not prime Kaido but this is a stronger version of Kaido than the one Rocks let in his crew, with the addition of the dragon fruit.
@eddieddieeddie
Жыл бұрын
6:50 and the wimpy big guy from the funk brothers, he was able to ignore a haki-infused hasshoken battle axe completely while cowering, nothing compared to the big people but still there since he wasn't using haki at all
@knodeway1826
Жыл бұрын
I really hope we get a flashback to prime Moria and why he could rival kaido. His power is extremely unique and he can boost his power at will.
@charlescooks9360
Жыл бұрын
He didn't know he could boost his powers with shadows until he saw Luffy do it
@TheSpencermacdougall
Жыл бұрын
5:00 well, the Red Line is a (The) continent, and it has many types of weather/seasons, almost as if many different islands were smashed into eachother. Maybe Ancient Giants created the Red Line? (Or, counter Theory: all the islands were once part of the Red Line, but broken off and moved by Ancient Giants.)
@TheWarmachine375
Жыл бұрын
Gear 5th Luffy: "This isn't even my Final Form!"
@Subham1418
Жыл бұрын
4:15 Woah there! watch out man there are kids who won't hesitate to say "Luffy can stop time" after watching this
@derpnas6213
Жыл бұрын
That's the only time being Blue-Balled is actually good
@neyson220293
Жыл бұрын
10:36 Moria can't take the shadow of someone whose haki is stronger than his because we now know that haki can nullify devil fruit powers
@Kingzay_2Real
Жыл бұрын
I love one piece
@casvandijck9338
7 ай бұрын
If Nightmare Luffy turns G5 Luffy would be able to sneeze the Demon Overlords back to hell.
@sonicducktheinoccent
Жыл бұрын
I made a post about this on reddit 4 years ago. I'm glad people are having the same thought
@dimitrose
Жыл бұрын
Crazy Theory: I think moria will join the cross guild and we will get nightmare buggy in the final fight, it would be a nice power up to buggy and would make a good contrast to shanks, like luffy ans blackbeard, where blackbeard is someone who brings destruction and opression, and luffy is someone who brings hope and freedom. Shanks and buggy would be similar, where buggy got strong stealing the strenght of the others and shank got strong all by himself (sorry if bad english)
@philipg6432
Жыл бұрын
I like the thematic idea of Nightmare Luffy and Sun God Nika being two sides of the same coin. Light and Shadow, one not existing without the other, and both becoming stronger from the other's influence. As light gets brighter, shadows get darker.
@mink4110
Жыл бұрын
Hello can you please make a video on, top 10 strongest devil fruit users vs 10 strongest haki users please, the current manga characters, not the ones who have already become donuts
@caio7208
Жыл бұрын
It's so rare to see you talking about the always polemic power levels
@groobells
Жыл бұрын
Blackbeard with this fruit could potentially combine it with his darkness logia in a terrifying way. Like if Blackbeard use his “black hole” ability that sucks everything in how many shadows could he store inside? Potentially infinite or at least tens of thousands? Imagine nightmare Blackbeard with 10,000 shadows throwing quake quake punches..
@dreadapollo3562
Жыл бұрын
7:00 bro that was sooo uncalled for.... true. but uncalled for
@josiahbaumgartner7643
Жыл бұрын
Also a vomitorium is an exit to a large building like the coliseum where there people “vomit out of the building”. I’m pretty sure the root word vomit in Latin just means come out or whatever. Romans didn’t feast and then vomit
@richardgunton9564
Жыл бұрын
This feels like a shot fired at Ohara’s ‘What of Luffy Ate Other Devil Fruits’ video.
@Crossrealmstreaming
Жыл бұрын
Don't forget to mention, if nightmare luffy were to contain a few shadows of strong haki users, then he'd gain the ability of using haki himself. So that's how nightmare luffy can counter bound man's haki
@johnnypollack3243
Жыл бұрын
Love the video and keep up the great work Liam
@chared64
Жыл бұрын
Love your program yo. Had a couple of thoughts: In the Ape Concert episodes, is Rapanui part Lunarian? He performs some amazing acts.
@crimsonfanzine9341
Жыл бұрын
1., I don't think Moria's shadow posession would work on the top tiers (scibukai+), it is likely haki dependent like Law's fruit powers. If Moria could get anyone's shadow, he would have become the pirate king long time ago. Also notice he had been doing the pirate business for quite some years when we met him, but still his biggest capture was Luffy and they were celebrating quite much that they could get a 300m berry bounty guy - I think it is because Luffy was the most powerful guy they could capture who did not have the haki to counter the DF power and they knew they would probably not find a stronger foe, hence they decided to put his shadow into Oars. 2., I don't think shadows can have negative or 0 effect. The way I understood is that other than experience, the raw power of the person's shadow is added to the person who consumes the shadows. Note that most of the shadows were regular soldiers/pirates/ppl, still made Luffy way stronger. Long story short, Usopp's shadow would probably count as a +1 regular person's strength. 3., G4 luffy has at least a comparable raw power to nightmare, do not forget that 1 kong gun sent Doffy through half of an island through terrain, while he was blocking the attack too. So the only downside I see is that g4 Luffy actually needs to charge/punch. 4., G4 bman's speed can also be comparable. Don't forget he basically teleported to doflamingo who did not even notice geting hit by Rhino Schneider, also similar stuff happened with Leo Bazoka.
@Cipher_Paul
Жыл бұрын
5:28 Gear 5th Luffy literally did the exact same thing to Kaido's dragon form *a couple chapters BEFORE* the rope skipping, even making Kaido see stars and birds. This Luffy was even compared to Popeye.
@AnimatedSkinwalker
Жыл бұрын
This video went from "Why nightmare Luffy is underrated" to "Why the Kage-Kage no mi is OP"
@lokiwiFruit
Жыл бұрын
I just came down into the comments to see how many people corrected the Vomitorium thing and so far none! Good job Nakama! Good job staying on topic!
@bad4746
Жыл бұрын
Saying that G4 is slow when he went from the top of Doflamingos castle to where Doflamingo got punched before he could even react is wild
@Gtag_ground_runner
Жыл бұрын
I think moria could join the crew as a support kinda like chopper who supports and sometimes fights
@galatic-wyvern2993
Жыл бұрын
1. That statement about Rayleigh is clearly hyperbolic. 2. The multiplied strength is somewhat fair, but also Lola would have no idea how that many souls in one body would even work. she had done experiments but not really. 3. every shadow there was weaker then the straw hats, and almost certainly by a bit. they ALL lost to Moria or his men. I highly doubt many even GOT to Moriah, or even fought him. 4. we know Luffy can wipe out far more then 100 highly skilled people easily. In fact, just throwing numbers at him doesn't really work, even at this point. I do think it was more akin to a GEAR 4 powerup, not Gear 5. Gear 5 not only has absurd might (taking luffy from only kinda keeping up with Kaido to BEATING HIM EASILY) insane durability, and his awakening affecting the world, easily makes it stronger. 5. Getting into the grand line is somewhat impressive, but not really. It's the second half that's what is impressive. Also normal ass marines can get into the grand line, an admiral can carry them in easily. (although that would be WAY overkill, you get my point) 6. Feat of stength? you want one? Little garden. the giant skull I think dory lifted? and put it on luffy to pin him down? 7. We have not "definitly" decided that he is stronger. We don't even know how strong Oars was as a corpse compared to his old self. Now if you wan't a LUFFY feat of strength, we probably won't get one, since anyone who is anyone will have HAKI and as such, luffy will need a clash. However, using 100 random people nobody knows and combining them, It's hard to say how much luffy got stronger. 8. Fair. Combined experience (although from an army of novices) is... alright. I think you misremember something. Luffy was the MAJORITY of the strength of nightmare luffy. I can prove it too. an exhausted luffy, after beating oars, goes and beats MORIA 1v1 when Moria has How many souls in him?!?! he had the same "nightmare" powerup but it clearly didn't matter. he just beat the shit out of him anyway. Now, at least in theory, if you used MUCH better quality and willing souls, nightmare luffy could definitly wipe out gear 5 easily. take current Luffy + his crew + his fleet and I don't see anyone winning.
@jacobloyd92
Жыл бұрын
"Boundman is not particularly quick" Doflamingo would like a word.
@reneesneed5778
Жыл бұрын
For the record I voted for nightmare Luffy and I always thought he could win because I remembered what he could do cuz I just love the idea of him so much kind of like Luffy Hulk
@stash4766
Жыл бұрын
5:14 😮 omg I can’t believe it!
@Entei9000
Жыл бұрын
0:38-0:43 a pretty controversial take but one that I agree with. Haki may be one of the most important (possibly even THE most important) traits one would need for fighting, but I don't think it's the end all be all that people think it is. After all Haki wouldn't amount to much if the user doesn't have any physical strength anyway.
@Someaddress555s
Жыл бұрын
Thanks for giving me a reason to to review all the characters we've seen since Moria came back into the story and make sure they do have their shadows.
@walkerwilson1019
Жыл бұрын
I only know this bc i rewatched the doffy vs gear 4th fight but bound man can be super quick. He dodged overheat and then suddenly appeared next to doflamingo to kick him.
@monkeyDaltuve
Жыл бұрын
What if the end of OP is a parallel to thriller bark (im sure someone has had this idea) - if Devil fruits are like shadows inside people. The"devils" are actually the souls of people from the ancient kingdom. Moria being in Oar's body foreshadows IMU being in some sort of vessel body. In the same way the dawn will kill those caught without a shadow, a giant flood will sweep the earth once the red line is broken to allow the "All blue" to form and the whales to travel the globe - the ark on fishman island will also be used. Chopper will develop a way to exercise the Devils from DF users before hand (hence his Human Human fruit awakening). Luffy will have some sort of final transformation beyond G5 to defeat IMU/blackbeard or final boss.
@patricknez7258
Жыл бұрын
No I think you're spot on tbh. He stopped Oars's punch w one hand! Slapped him around too, all w out haki. Just strength. Nightmare Luffy was a monster. I completely agree the shadows compounded and there must have been some strong ones, but I think the vessel was just as important. Not just Luffy's strength, tenacity and df all of which are formidable, but also Luffy's instincts and mind for battle. We've seen him pull out genius and creative, sometimes also silly.. maybe mostly also silly, effective tactics on the fly in battle. Imagine him having exponentially more experience and tactics to draw from. If Luffy could have kept Nightmare Luffy form he would have saved Ace and would not have had drive or even reason to learn haki imo. Nightmare Luffy would have broken the story. Oda wisely knew there's no speed running and epic story like this
@galatic-wyvern2993
Жыл бұрын
I think a very basic argument beats this sadly. Moria got the same shadow's buff (maybe a better one? he did have the devil fruit) and non-nightmare luffy beat him. Luffy was doing the majority of what we saw (besides the skillful things, obviously)
@lucabertani225
Жыл бұрын
that Moria guy also happens to be convinently held in the place controlled by that one guy who's able to nullify devil fruit powers, which, you know, would also prevent the sun god transformation
@JackTheSpades
Жыл бұрын
11:30 Casual reminder that vomitoriums were just exit ways were people would spill out and NOT a place for ancient Romans to throw up so they could eat more.
@juliantaylor5956
Жыл бұрын
I never read thriller bark, I only watched it, so it’s really cool to see that gear 5 v Kaido literally took that oars panel verbatim, just like gear 5 luffy vs Awakened Lucci
@eGochango
Жыл бұрын
Vomitorium was just the entrances and exits of Roman amphitheaters. Not where they would throw up. Good point tho mate haha
@enderboss3773
Жыл бұрын
I couldn't even imagine that the day when Liam starts power scaling one piece characters
@nighttimeasbestos5958
Жыл бұрын
Question, it's said at the start of One Piece that Luffy had the highest starting bounty of a Pirate at 30 Million. Have we found any examples that go against this? Like not counting Nico Robbin I suppose, have we found any pirates who had a higher starting bounty yet?
@BilliamJoyBoy
Жыл бұрын
I had a thought while watching this, and it has nothing to do with the actual content, but what if the paw paw fruit can push out the concept of durability. So everyone that fights could loose all of their durability meanwhile the user could take everyone’s durability, basically making the user a ridiculous tank. While also making everyone else so squishy they could be defeated by anything
@Jolfgard
Жыл бұрын
11:00 Thus morphing him into what I can only describe as BEEG BEEG Chungus
@gabrielborges481
Жыл бұрын
To the point of Oars being the continent puller and no continents existing in OP, except the Red Line... Could it be that he pulled continents apart and relocated pieces of it? Thus creating the weird islands only world we know? Or alternatively, could he have somehow put the Red Line together with pieces of other continents? Idk if this makes any sense whatsoever, I'm pretty high right now. Cool video though. Lol
@CosmicGigaDoge
Жыл бұрын
I like how he made big mom look like a character in chowder 7:00
@Chris-th5fl
Жыл бұрын
It is crazy that blackbeard's crew did not take moria's devil fruit. I do not mean just for themselves but i think it would have sold very high given its potential, Plus using this devil fruit to gain fast access to people's skills seems like something blackbeard would want on his side.
@ierbutza21
Жыл бұрын
A non comical Luffy with the strengh to back him up + the colective information from the shadows is a scary concept,current Luffy in nightmare form would be some sort of a Kaido so yeah makes G4 even more pointless(still looks cool in SnakeMan variant).
@Xzaithys
Жыл бұрын
Maybe Oars title as the continent pusher isnt meant to be interpreted as he pushed the continents together, but rather apart, as you stated, there arent really continents, unless you count the red line.
@Rubberman202
Жыл бұрын
I mean, when you absorb the powers and abilities of 100 people, I suppose it only makes sense that you gain power equivalent to or greater than what is essentially a living cartoon.
@zacklucky
Жыл бұрын
In Episode 131, Luffy got interested in Robin's book, titled "Rainbow Mist" and Episode 968, The Roger Pirates land and name the island. We can clearly see the rainbow mist all around them. maybe there is a connection?
@KingOfDaCrest
Жыл бұрын
it may also be possible that nightmare was the catalyst for the pre awakening of luffy haki due to all that knowledge and experience from the 100 shadows maybe that gave him like a multiplier in how he thinks outside the box with ways to both use and defeat opponents judging by how he was able to use gear 5th so well to be able to body kaido so in a sense nightmare is the reason for luffys current op prowess in combat
@multiversaltraveler5894
Жыл бұрын
you know ive been wondering why did you stop making videos for the devil fruit encyclopedia i would love to see more of those just saying like maybe a video on some of the newer fruits in the manga or ones you just haven't covered yet just saying and it would be cool to see what your take on awakenings for the fruits would be
@rickshabusky4553
Жыл бұрын
Nightmare luffy voice in the Japanese version is squeaky
@mathieuleader8601
Жыл бұрын
Nightmare Luffy originally was meant to be a parody of Freddy from the Elm Street films
@smkryptic
Жыл бұрын
Video 210 17 months I love the videos and I hope your day was great. Keep up the great work.
@bigtareec
Жыл бұрын
In terms of physical strength i guess Big Mom can be brought up. She was walking casually underground
@9hundun516
Жыл бұрын
That Ch 479 Warrior of Hope to Ch 1044 Warrior of liberation titles really lets you know oda (ppl know this already) really gets deep in his duffy layin out the ground work for his story from hundreds of chapters ago yall may or may not like how he handles the story or Luffy but i love him thousands of times more for it
@Smkymcpott85
Жыл бұрын
What is with Giratina in the background? Also, do you play go? Wanna exchange friend codes? It really depends on the shadows. So the next question would be is Nightmare Luffy coming back? We didn't see Koby rescue Moria, so is Moria dead and his fruit in the hands of someone on the blackbeard pirates?
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