I find gun footage like this to be equal parts fascinating, terrifying and sad
@atravers349
2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, me too.
@oceanhome2023
2 жыл бұрын
Yes ! I shrunk in my seat to make a smaller target every time I saw those rounds walking up the fuselage to me !!!
@soldat2501
2 жыл бұрын
That’s someone’s son in there. Trying to survive, calling for mama.
@atravers349
2 жыл бұрын
@@soldat2501 yes, it's easy to forget that when watching, but when you think about it, it's terrifying and disturbing.
@m0rvidusm0rvidus18
2 жыл бұрын
Don't be sad for liberals trying to ruin the European racia1 stock, and as of 2022, clearly succeeding. They knew the system they were fighting for, they even named their bombers after it.
@manithrupasinghe8744
2 жыл бұрын
damn that b-24 head on pass is brutal.
@mikeromney4712
2 жыл бұрын
Performed right by the book.....poor guys.....
@Sguy8888
2 жыл бұрын
The cockpit was destroyed with everyone inside
@manualgrech8637
2 жыл бұрын
@@Sguy8888 can you imagine what those 20mm cannon shells did, a butchers shop
@seanzibonanzi64
2 жыл бұрын
You can see someone or something blown out the bottom of the plane at 2:00 after it's shot, probably the most intense WW2 flight recording I've seen
@mikeromney4712
2 жыл бұрын
@@seanzibonanzi64 I would say, this is debris....bailing out in the same second the plane recieved a devastating hit seems verry unlikely to me..... edit: After rewatching this scene, I am certain....but indeed - intense....
@cristiancoman2125
2 жыл бұрын
the explosive power behind the Minengeschoss shells is incredible, and well demonstrated here. Most of the explosions are the 20mm shells, and the really big ones are the 30mm. Also shows the power difference between them.
@hahaaukko1127
Жыл бұрын
I wonder if the P-51 would have been better with 4 x 50 cals and 2 x 20mm Hispanos. I bet they tried it at some point.
@TotalGarbo
Жыл бұрын
@@hahaaukko1127 The original British spec for the P51 was 4x Hispanos if I recall correctly.
@Bo_Nidle
10 ай бұрын
Any fighter is better armed with cannons than machine guns, even .50’s. That’s what every major air force (other than the USA) focused on cannon armament for all their fighters by the end of the war. When the F-86 Sabre was fighting in Korea it was the skill of the USAF pilots that lead to its 13:1 kill ratio. However it should have been higher. The 6 x .50’s were found to be insufficient to cause the damage required on the Mig 15’s, allowing many to escape despite being hit repeatedly. This lead to the USAF instigating Project GunVal with 12 F-86F’s being modified to carry 20mm cannons instead of .50’s and fielded operationally in 1953. Despite no conclusive results it was felt that there was sufficient evidence to recommend all new USAF fighters be cannon equipped. That’s why no USAF fighters were equipped with .50’s after the Korean War.
@dimenzed
6 ай бұрын
The 20mm Minengeschoß contained 18 grams of high explosive fill and usually took down a heavy bomber with 20-25 hits, while the 30mm Minengeschoß contained 85 grams of high explosive fill and usually took down a heavy bomber with 3-5 hits.
@jp-ty1vd
3 ай бұрын
here is everything you needed or wanted to know about why the LW chose canons and not .50 cals and vice-versa. kzitem.info/news/bejne/ooeJnImYbpeceXo
@keithallver2450
2 жыл бұрын
It's amazing the amount of battle damage a B-17 could take and still keep flying.
@0Turbox
2 жыл бұрын
You can't see from outside, how many of the crew members are already dead.
@RTXti-ez6ye
2 жыл бұрын
Welll it is not a zero
@Rick2010100
2 жыл бұрын
Keep flying des not mean return to base. There are hits with direct consequences, but the most hits have consequences for the maneuverability. Crews who have flown more than 6 missions have been very rare.
@m9078jk3
2 жыл бұрын
@@Rick2010100 My father completed 50 combat missions/35 sorties with the 463rd BG/772nd BS as a B-17 Pilot /AC and he luckily never got wounded. Only his ball turret gunner was wounded on one combat mission.
@Harzhopper
2 жыл бұрын
@@0Turbox one video showed the crew parashoot and german fighter waitng for them to finish before destroying b17
@212th
2 жыл бұрын
No music. Thank you 👌
@floydoroid
2 жыл бұрын
Makes you realize that every man fighting had a family. War truly is terrible.
@momotheelder7124
2 жыл бұрын
a couple of rare ones here, the mustang with the drop tanks and the spitfire exploding. I wonder if the specific actions can be identified!
@hw97karbine
2 жыл бұрын
Those particular clips were from propaganda newsreels so unfortunately stripped of all context
@bradking3174
2 жыл бұрын
@@hw97karbine there are many reels of cg footage at the Imperial War Museum as British forces overran a Luftwaffe training school where the footage was found. I believe the high flying Spitfire was attacked by an Me262. It’s obvious the Spitfire has no clue that he is there. It’s also at very high altitude, so I wonder if it was a PRU Spitfire. The original sequence is longer and the attacker comes up VERY fast. There are also reels of attack analysis mainly on Russian aircraft with target overlays and analysis of bullet spread etc. The other sequence of an attack on a spitfire shows the Spitfire’s turn rate advantage well too.
@MrChickennugget360
2 жыл бұрын
the fact that the Mustang had drop tanks still on means that the German had the jump on him. Sometimes people forget that many in many cases you get shot down by the guy you don't even know is there. The Red Barron apparently said that most of his kills never saw him coming. Always watch your 6.
@blowingfree6928
Жыл бұрын
@@hw97karbine Yes, although possibly meant to look superficially like a Spitfire it clearly is not when looking at the wing shape. If the image is frozen at 1:03 it is difficult to tell what aircraft it actually is. Might even be Russian.
@hw97karbine
Жыл бұрын
@@blowingfree6928 the vibration from the cannon fire is shaking the camera and causing some images to superimpose but I think it's still clearly identifiable as a Spitfire, that elliptical wing is unmistakable.
@Steveman61
2 жыл бұрын
First time since years that I see WWII gun camera footage I did not know. Many thanks for sharing! The Spitfire shot down while trying to intercept the Ju 88 was fascinating (and sad at the same time). Regards from Austria!
@dieterrahm4044
2 жыл бұрын
Me410
@carrisasteveinnes1596
2 жыл бұрын
Communist Austria, the birthplace of the new Apartheid.
@mysimpletoon
2 жыл бұрын
@@carrisasteveinnes1596 What the fuck are you talking about?
@EneTheGene
2 жыл бұрын
@@carrisasteveinnes1596 Interesting world you live in. Maybe you should take you meds though?
@FuxxMajor
2 жыл бұрын
Warum traurig? In der JU hätte deine Opa sitzen können, du Spezialist.
@Past10Performance
2 жыл бұрын
You can deffinitly tell the experinaced pilots from the begginers by how long of a burst they are shooting. The ace does a short burst only when it is almost garunteed to hit, saving his ammo for the next target. the beginners hold the trigger and walk the tracer rounds toward the enemy
@hajoos.8360
2 жыл бұрын
As you say, see Bubi Hartmann kzitem.info/news/bejne/raWc06mQqHuhZXY closer than 150 yards he opened fire.
@masonx3bm
2 жыл бұрын
The true ace never used tracer rounds.
@hajoos.8360
2 жыл бұрын
@@masonx3bm Ahhh you were present to implement the rounds?
@masonx3bm
2 жыл бұрын
@@hajoos.8360 George Beurling
@hajoos.8360
2 жыл бұрын
@@masonx3bm i think tracers were already implemented in the production-process.... so you got some with or without it, in this case ammunition for the Brownings.....
@vietoo5056
2 жыл бұрын
Biggest respect to the Flying Fortress tail gunners,. They're literally trapped inside a steel box facing head on to an enemy aircraft, and more likely to become the first one to be hit RIP
@rileyhaynes2515
2 жыл бұрын
That'd really be anyone in the front since German pilots were trained to at least make their first pass on them from the front as there's less guns looking ahead and you could take the aircraft down quickly by killing the pilots
@Sokol10
Жыл бұрын
Aluminium box.
@Use-or-Lose
6 ай бұрын
The B-17’s aluminium fuselage was the thickness of a credit card. Whereas it protected aircrews from the elements, it was useless against bullets, especially the BF-109’s 20mm cannon shells. Aircrews heads and limbs were literally blown off. Clark Gable flew as a waist gunner, making a documentary about the 8th Air Force. When Hitler found out he put a bounty over Gables head, resulting in Gable almost getting his foot blown-off. After that Gable was grounded.
@alanjm1234
2 жыл бұрын
I always find it incredible how some fighter pilots keep flying straight and level while they're being shot to pieces. I don't think I could do that even if I wanted to!
@crazeemunkee
2 жыл бұрын
They are either unaware they're being hit (sensory overload) or the pilot is hit himself and can't react.
@alfredware
2 жыл бұрын
@@crazeemunkee most of the where shot over Germany, they were flying probably from England and were already tired. They simply didn't have the energy required to do evasive maneuvers.
@streamofconsciousness5826
Жыл бұрын
they are not flying straight and level the plane filming and shooting is turning and banking with them. It just looks like they're not moving because the Pilot is trying to keep them in his sights, so not moving...
@blowingfree6928
Жыл бұрын
@@alfredware Not so, if you were being shot at then you will definitely find the energy to take action if you were capable of it or wished to do so. Adrenaline would be coursing through their bodies. The Spitfire probably took little action because he was probably fixated on getting the Ju88. Bomber crews often took tablets to keep them awake on the way to and from Germany when on night ops because night dulled the senses.
@glennledrew8347
2 жыл бұрын
Very good quality; good dynamic range, good resolution and really minimal compression issues. It's almost like watching the projected film directly.
@dogmadogma5398
2 жыл бұрын
Amazing history. Also so much respect to all those servicemen
@gus23a
2 жыл бұрын
Those 30mm Minengeschosse were absolutly devastating.
@48grainsoffreedom
2 жыл бұрын
Regardless who is shooting, being at the receiving end of these shots must have been terriffying, devastating and painful... and worse if you survive it. War is hell but this is definitely so sad to watch.
@hajoos.8360
2 жыл бұрын
All those pilots you see here shot-down had nothing lost on the european continent. This is their own guilt to become a war-criminal.
@lkohlb3773
2 жыл бұрын
@@hajoos.8360 what does that even mean?
@hajoos.8360
2 жыл бұрын
@@lkohlb3773 Whether the Brits nor the Cowboys see themselves as Europeans. Commemorating the Monroe-Doctrin they should not intervene in European affairs. They waged war of aggression which is always a war-crime.
@lkohlb3773
2 жыл бұрын
@@hajoos.8360 This is ww2 if im not mistaken, Germany declared war on the US after Pearl Harbor, and the UK told Germany that they'd declare war if Germany invaded Poland, which they did. So both the US and UK being at war is entirely because of German and Italian aggression.
@hajoos.8360
2 жыл бұрын
@@lkohlb3773 To evaluate history, there is more to say than 2 sentences. Germany wanted it's territories back. This is a legal approach. Britain & France declared war over Germany, because the invasion of Poland, right. But why Britain & France did not declared war over the Sovjetunion, which invaded Poland, too? This prooves that Britain & France wanted war, for whatever any reasons occur. And Hitler's declaration of war over the US was simply a formal aspect. Because the US waged already war against Germany by escorting convois & selling destroyers to Britain. And the entire reason, why Germany must claim for it's territory is concernd by WWI. And WWI is without any alternative interpretation the guilt of the Entente-powers, who broke the Berlin treaty of 1878. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Treaty_of_Berlin_(1878)
@williamgaston9812
2 жыл бұрын
this footage is incredible thank you so much for sharing.
@Smoshy16
2 жыл бұрын
There's a few clips in this compilation that I haven't seen before. Thanks for posting!
@gretasnipe7631
2 жыл бұрын
I have never seen return fire coming from the bombers. Did they not use tracer, so it can't be seen? Or had the gunners already been hit? Particularly on B17s the ball turrets never seem to move.
@hw97karbine
2 жыл бұрын
Tracer is harder to see when it's coming towards you. Here is an example of a B-17G firing back, you can see the puffs of smoke from the ball and tail turrets firing, but no tracers are visible: i.imgur.com/8hwfSE2.gifv
@daszieher
2 жыл бұрын
Very often the fighters would only close in to such ranges, when the aircraft was crippled and had fallen out of formation and the gunners had been silenced one way or another. I can't remember correctly, but I am under the impression that one of the famous guncam reels of a B-17 taking a beating is from a plane whose crew had already bailed. This was used for propaganda purposes, as it was more impressive to see the looming behemoth on screen for more than just a few frames. The head-on shot on the B-24 with the shells exploding in the cockpit is more representative of a preferable attack strategy. The 109 and 190 pilots I knew, all agreed that getting in close and personal on a "Viermot" from the rear quarter needs bravery very close to stupidity. One preferred being a night fighter and did not hold the 109 in particularly fond memories.
@Slahinki
2 жыл бұрын
@@hw97karbine Isn't that the start of the famous clip where the fighter is hitting the ball turret and rakes the wing and engines?
@hw97karbine
2 жыл бұрын
@@Slahinki yes here is an analysis: imgur.com/a/tDwlo Some people seem to think the plane had been abandoned but there are no apparent cuts in the footage and no one bails out between the guns firing and the Bf 110 closing in.
@edwardd9702
2 жыл бұрын
Looks like the ball turret gunner has got out. Guns pointed down so he can exit the rear hatch.
@blowingfree6928
Жыл бұрын
The clip at 1:18 over Malta is interesting. I have seen the full video clip, and it illustrates the Spitfire turning more tightly than the ME109 so that the ME109 cannot get the Spitfire into his sight for a deflection shot. The complete footage shows the Spitfire turn getting tighter and out turning the ME109 until he gets away. Manoeuvring very rarely captured on film. The Hurricane at 1:52 is definitely not over Malta, looks more like South East Asia (probably Burma aka the Arakan) with the river and foothills, so possibly Japanese gun camera footage. The war is a long time over, it is a pity that many commentators cannot remember that.
@hw97karbine
Жыл бұрын
Both clips that you mentioned are in this Luftwaffe reel: kzitem.info/news/bejne/wHuNy4OIj3l-gXo Japanese gun camera footage seems to be exceedingly rare so I doubt it would have been spliced into such a compilation.
@thomasjamison2050
2 жыл бұрын
I can't imagine the feelings that a gunner in either the ball turret or the tail gun must have had watching those heavy caliber shells coming in and hitting. Assuming, of course, they were still alive at the time. But it was like the tiger tank commander once said, "it was no problem taking out ten Shermans. The problem was that there was always an eleventh."
@laurikotivuori1585
2 жыл бұрын
@@thomasjamison2050 If you click the three dots on the right side of the comment you can edit it
@h31212
2 жыл бұрын
2:30 that guy hit 3 bombers in 4 seconds that's insane
@ericscottstevens
2 жыл бұрын
2 of the best shots in the Luftwaffe Heinrich Prinz zu Sayn-Wittgenstein (83 kills) Heinz-Wolfgang Schnaufer (121 aerial victories / 164 combat missions) Secret? growing up with a rifle or shot gun hunting fowl and game. They understood deflection, trajectory arc, and speed. Add to that they were the premier night pilots. I could add the master Hans-Joachim Marseille, but he grew up sickly and not being too active. He was just a natural it seems.
@nikolakaravida9670
2 жыл бұрын
Schnaufer was a night fighter hunting bombers. Marseille was probably the best pilot of WW2 alltogether in terms of raw skill.
@testboga5991
2 жыл бұрын
Marseille was very meticulous. He didn't take chances. That's why he lived long enough to rack up kills. Many pilots were not cool enough and got themselves killed very quickly.
@nikolakaravida9670
2 жыл бұрын
@@testboga5991 I partially disagree. Marseille was indeed cool headed in combat but he sometimes did get reckless. Well, it's no surprise considering the man was known for his rebellious nature.
@glennfalzo3718
2 жыл бұрын
Yes, they did rack up a lot of kills, however, quite a few were against far non-equal aircraft, like bi-planes and very very early mono-planes. I'll bet if you look it up, once equal or superior fighters entered the fight with experienced pilots, their kills went down dramatically.
@glennfalzo3718
2 жыл бұрын
@@nikolakaravida9670 :Reminds me of "Tommy McGuire" P38 pilot in comptitution with "Richard Bong" to be the highest US Ace, He was RECKLESS to pad his "Kill" count, and it killed him.
@makzimdanilov7963
2 жыл бұрын
Wow. A spitfire shot by MK-108. I have never seen before. Thanks!
@hajoos.8360
2 жыл бұрын
the King of Spitfire-hunters was Hans-Joachim Marseille, the star of Africa. Unfortunately he died by accident.
@laurikotivuori1585
2 жыл бұрын
@@hajoos.8360 Fortunately from my perspective. Saved allied lives in this pointless ass fucking conflict.
@hajoos.8360
2 жыл бұрын
@@laurikotivuori1585 now their descendants get their ass kicked by the Russians.....
@algiz21
2 жыл бұрын
@@laurikotivuori1585 how can you as a Finn say fortunate? This has only been u fortunate. And no matter if you think the allies were the good guys their victory brought the world corruption
@laurikotivuori1585
2 жыл бұрын
@@algiz21 In what way again? And how is that in any world worse than Nazi Germany literally OWNING and fucking ruling Europe while killing ANYONE who doesn't comply, along with killing millions of Jews and Russians whether they comply or not? How man?
@JFS3
2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for posting this, as even though I have seen some of these before, many of them are new. Up until now, everyone has been posting that one available reel over and over again, so it was interesting to see something different for a change. Any idea just how much more Luftwaffe gun camera footage is out there that we haven't seen yet?. I know that most all of it was said to be lost in the Dresden raid, but I was wondering if there might be any other fragments hiding out somewhere in the nooks and crannies of an old film vault somewhere.
@hw97karbine
2 жыл бұрын
here's one archive where I found material that I hadn't seen in newsreels: archiv-akh.de/
@DOLGgenerals
2 жыл бұрын
@@hw97karbine Спасибо тебе! Ты самостоятельно искал или кто-то помогает?
@robertoscherma166
2 жыл бұрын
Vedere queste immagini fa' sempre un immenso piacere.
@browngreen933
2 жыл бұрын
Falling Vier Mots are so majestic.
@hb9145
8 ай бұрын
0:39 is an expert. Holds the fire until almost every bullet/shell hits. The amateurs lob huge volleys from a distance, hoping that something hits.
@carlhackett690
2 жыл бұрын
Very exciting and also very sad for those who fought in the air war over Europe and every other theater of war...
@guto35617
2 жыл бұрын
It seems the Spitfire opened fire even taking fire 0:17 what a hero.
@Crashed131963
2 жыл бұрын
I see that. The spitfire was on that twin engine german plane even with another on his tail.
@Leon_der_Luftige
2 жыл бұрын
More like he didn't notice he was being chased.
@chpman2013
2 жыл бұрын
Man, that Mustang with its drop tanks got chewed up. Judging by the recoil at 0:40, that Spitfire must've been hit by a 30mm cannon.
@hw97karbine
2 жыл бұрын
If you look closely at the P-51's left wing it's a mess, and there's what looks like .50 cal belts coming off it. I counted 5 hits and judging only by the apparent coolant leak caused by the first hit, that bird definitely didn't make it home.
@chpman2013
2 жыл бұрын
@@hw97karbine Not so sure if those are .50 cal belts, they look more like large pieces of the aileron, but the left-wing machine guns definitely got damaged. And yeah, with that big plume of coolant spray, it would only be a matter of time before the engine became disabled. Those hits had to be from a 20mm cannon, at least.
@chpman2013
2 жыл бұрын
@@hw97karbine And those extra hits on the cockpit canopy? I'll bet those rounds went right by the pilot's head.
@hw97karbine
2 жыл бұрын
@@chpman2013 Split to frames here are the 5 hits: 1 to the lower fuselage, that obviously hits the cooling system and causes an immediate coolant leak: i.imgur.com/JWGcH1f.gif 2 to the left wing, this has obviously disrupted the flying surfaces considerably, we can see the damage compared to the intact right wing and the significant amount of debris that flies off: i.imgur.com/M9wN8pk.gif 3 looks like a hit to the left horizontal tail surfaces: i.imgur.com/45X2N3e.gif 4 is either a hit to the propeller or the cockpit, it's not very clear: i.imgur.com/zVPdBvH.gif 5 is obscured with smoke so no way to tell the location: i.imgur.com/a48ZxwE.gif
@glennfalzo3718
2 жыл бұрын
The element of supprise! If the P51 pilot knew he was there, he would have jettison his drop tanks and made evasive manoeuvres. Not saying he wouldn't have been shot down, just he would have had a better chance not to.
@trumoi91
2 жыл бұрын
Best aerial footage i´ve ever seen!
@CzechImp
6 ай бұрын
That first one - P51 caught unawares, still with his drop tanks on... And the third one - Spitfire pilot so focussed on his own target that he misses the fighter chasing him...
@HO-bndk
2 жыл бұрын
0:24 Target fixation? Looks like the Spitfire pilot didn't even realise he was under fire until it was too late.
@bogdan3444
2 жыл бұрын
At 1:59 did he just shred that B-24's cockpit? Amazing footage. Thank you very much!
@UnknownPersononGoogle
2 жыл бұрын
He did and the cockpit is on fire which means the mine shells exploded and set something on fire.
@andrezkamotu
2 жыл бұрын
Yes, both Liberator pilots were killed instantly...
@bogdan3444
2 жыл бұрын
@@UnknownPersononGoogle I just googled “mine shells”. I had no idea this type of shells were used. Very interesting.
@UnknownPersononGoogle
2 жыл бұрын
@@bogdan3444 they were the primary ammo for Luftwaffe aircraft, only 2/3 direct hits was enough to send a fighter into oblivion. The B-24 cockpit would be like a slaughter pit, human remains everywhere and fire.
@Belsen85
2 жыл бұрын
@@bogdan3444 most likely he means HE shells of 30mm cannon installed on Gf-109G4 and K variants
@TheSaturnV
9 ай бұрын
1:32 That Spitfire might just have turned the tables on his pursuer. He drops low out of frame and then reefs a really hard turn.
@puddinggamez344
2 жыл бұрын
I would have loved to hear what this sounded like.
@hw97karbine
2 жыл бұрын
"neeeeeoooowwww dakka dakka dakka!!!"
@bBersZ
2 жыл бұрын
Damn, that Liberator got it bad
@tramlink8544
2 жыл бұрын
no one left in the cockpit after that pass!
@m0rvidusm0rvidus18
2 жыл бұрын
It was trying to liberalise Europe.
@Tiberiotertio
2 жыл бұрын
@@m0rvidusm0rvidus18 And those that shot into the cockpit where trying to defend their homes and families...
@marchellochiovelli7259
2 жыл бұрын
1:59.... A butchered crew. What a mess.
@FairladyS130
2 жыл бұрын
In a couple of those the defending rear gunners had a couple of seconds to eliminate the threat or die.
@alshulga364
2 жыл бұрын
Rear gunners had only one 12,7 mm. Brauning vs several MG up to 20mm.
@smigoltime
2 жыл бұрын
@@alshulga364 Browning* lmfao, brauning smh XDDD
@alshulga364
2 жыл бұрын
@@smigoltime 🤦🤦🤦
@alshulga364
2 жыл бұрын
@@smigoltime Thanks for your help
@fish8555
2 жыл бұрын
I once knew a Lancaster gunner years ago and he said that they would sometimes have to hose out the rear gunner because the German 20mm did so much damage. He told me another story where he was in the rear turret one night and a fw190 came up behind them and sprayed the rear turret. All he could do was point his guns upwards to deflect the rounds coming in off the guns shield.
@Xenophon1
2 жыл бұрын
Speeding these videos up make them seem more realistic. Great videos!!
@fazsum41
2 жыл бұрын
If this was War Thunder every single one of those aircraft would have had a wing or a tail completely sheer off from 1 round of a german 20mm mg151
@0Turbox
2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, that's what I also thought, when comparing it to games. But it's also interesting to see, how other parts fall off. Btw. the after penn. effects in tanking is also a bit exaggerated.
@ralph451
2 жыл бұрын
If this was War Thunder, most of these German planes would have been pilot sniped or lit on fire by .50 cals in a single burst
@Ivzu
2 жыл бұрын
Try playing simulator, bombers there are OP as fuck as you get sniped by 50 cal or your engine killed from shermans 50cal..
@0Turbox
2 жыл бұрын
@@Ivzu The problem with games is, that you only have to aim at those 5 pixels presenting a plane in the distance. Real live has a far greater resolution ;)
@Ivzu
2 жыл бұрын
@@0Turbox Well mouse aim obviously gives huge advantage.
@legiox3719
2 жыл бұрын
You can tell the difference between the pilots who have good aim and the bad ones. Man that spit at 1:50 got decked big time.
@lucasr.5863
2 жыл бұрын
Wonderful!
@TheMigueS
2 жыл бұрын
War is hell. And both sides suffer it. People who start wars don't fight. Just send others to do it.
@clostridiumtetani9947
2 жыл бұрын
The difference is nazis deserved to suffer for their crimes.
@kolbpilot
15 күн бұрын
The amount of airplanes in the air during that 4 year period will never come again.
@pirminkogleck4056
Жыл бұрын
those poor souls up there ! may they rest in peace!
@mr.samurai901
10 ай бұрын
Wow 2:00 is crazy. A perfect head on pass on a B-24, thw entire burst hit the cockpit head on. There is no way that bomber made it home....
@bad74maverick1
2 жыл бұрын
The high altitude spitfire being destroyed is by an ME262. The speed is one indication. I believe the entire gun camera video is in a museum somewhere.
@bbd468
2 жыл бұрын
I always feel so Sad for the guys in the Bombers. God Bless their Souls!
@Spitfiresammons
2 жыл бұрын
You can tell at 0:33 is a RAF Mitchell bomber with d-day stripes.
@Reactordrone
2 жыл бұрын
0:42 That's an ambitious deflection shot.
@hw97karbine
2 жыл бұрын
Your typical 20mm cannon is firing at around 675 rounds per minute, so at a given point in the line of fire there is a shell every 0.0889 seconds. A P-51 Mustang would easily be flying at 170 meters per second and is 10 meters long. This means that it covers its own length in 0.0588 seconds, therefore it is entirely possible that a Mustang flying perpendicular to a burst of cannon fire can fly between the shells.
@francescoguzzetta
2 жыл бұрын
@@hw97karbine the German fighter was most likely also firing the two MG131 machine guns with higher rate of fire though.
@hw97karbine
2 жыл бұрын
That's true, but at best it would have achieved only a handful of hits, it would have been extremely unlucky for the Allied pilot to be critically damaged.
@francescoguzzetta
2 жыл бұрын
@@hw97karbine well, actually the top is the only unprotected side of the canopy (there was armoured seat, armoured windshield, but only a thin layer of plexiglass on the top). Even a single rifle bullet landing in the unprotected canopy can make a lot of damage. I agree you would need a lucky shot, but not an impossible feat.
@glennfalzo3718
2 жыл бұрын
@@francescoguzzetta :George E. Preddy, Jr. was shot down in his P51D Mustang Christmas Day 1944, he was killed by or own AA guns, 1-50cal round went thru his armor plated seat back and killed him. Armor Plating doesn't guarantee you won't be wounded or killed.
@takirid
2 жыл бұрын
Good combat footage of that P51, getting totally shredded, including the Spitfire, P7, Hurricane and Bombers.
@B17FlyingFortress
5 ай бұрын
@0:06 - B17 of the 447th BG (Square "K" on right wing). Do you have a date, when this footages was shown at first time in German news reels?
@hw97karbine
5 ай бұрын
I don't have any record of it but if memory serves me well it was January 1944, if I come across the exact date I will let you know.
@hw97karbine
5 ай бұрын
According to some other notes it was shot down by Willi Maximowitz flying a Fw 190 A-7 on 29th April 1944
@B17FlyingFortress
5 ай бұрын
@@hw97karbine thanks. As far as I see in my database, 10 B-17s of the 447th BG were shot down by enemy aircraft on that day. Need to check MACR files.
@hw97karbine
5 ай бұрын
@@B17FlyingFortress I remember checking your site to see if I could match it with an MACR but could not come up with a definite identification, I believe it crashed near Hehlingen
@B17FlyingFortress
5 ай бұрын
@@hw97karbine closest B-17 crashed near Hehlingen is B-17 42-37863. Crashed Grasleben, 14km south-east of Hehlingen. MACR says: "Aircraft flying #6 high squadron was hit by enemy fighters and was knockt out of formation. Last seen going down apparently under control but with #3 engine afire. Four chute observed"
@PauloPereira-jj4jv
Жыл бұрын
Mustangs, B-25 and Thunderbolts are rare to see, but here they are.
@dimenzed
Жыл бұрын
Even outnumbered, Luftwaffe pilots and fighters were more than a match for the USAAF and the Royal Airforce and gave them absolute *HELL,* as clearly evident from these superb gun cams.
@MrLJT1
7 ай бұрын
No. By mid 1943 the shoe was on the other foot and the USAAF and RAF were better trained, experienced, and effective. These "superb" gun camera films are largely from propaganda videos.
@dimenzed
7 ай бұрын
@@MrLJT1 i mean are you blind?! This is an actual combat footage. I see no propaganda here. Throughout the war the USAAF and RAF lost in total more than 12,000 heavy bombers alone, not counting fighters or other aircraft and the Luftwaffe achieved this while being outnumbered and fighting on several fronts. Let that sink in!
@charles07km83
7 ай бұрын
@@MrLJT1shut up kid
@AB-mw8oz
3 ай бұрын
The myth of the Luftwaffe. Germany scored far better on the Eastern Front than the western front. Probably 75% of these kills occurred on the Russian front which is inline with Germany's top 10 aces where aboutn 75-80% of their kills happened against the Russians and the only ones who did have substantial numbers of kills on the western front were against French or Dutch aircraft
@dimenzed
3 ай бұрын
@@AB-mw8oz look for Allied bomber losses and see if it's a "myth".
@b3j8
4 ай бұрын
Those poor boys might as well have been riding in a cardboard plane! You talk about pure guts! Rest in peace fellas. Each and every one!
@TheJackHood
2 жыл бұрын
I'm amazed how clear that first one is
@harrylaws2260
2 жыл бұрын
This is real thing man not movie scene or video games ; hate to see our guys being shot to pieces
@kubarlow
2 жыл бұрын
Impressive footage... first time I saw p47s taking punishment...
@patrickporter6536
2 жыл бұрын
They could take an awful lot of it!
@alvaro2338
2 жыл бұрын
@@patrickporter6536 and come back to the base . u 😎
@IAPPEARINVISIBLE
2 жыл бұрын
I'm used to watching Allied gun footage. Man!!! those Luftwaffe cannons were brutal. One hit is all it took...One!!!
@atlantis.b6599
6 ай бұрын
Considering the statistics of sorties flown vs the inflicted casualties within the Civilians , then each bomber caused 80 deaths and double or triple the number of wounded and invalids .
@bezimienny_andzej6425
2 жыл бұрын
Imagine more footage like the first one instead of 240p videos we are mostly fed? That would be glorious, too bad the archives burned in Dresden. Does anyone knows if Finns have any gun camera footage from WW2?
@ryanmixsmith
2 жыл бұрын
I find it sad that many of these planes, even some of the fighters, just froze in fear without trying to maneuver away from the attack. The bombers I understand, but the fighters and attackers just sitting there taking the beating? But that Liberator head on was gruesome. Looks like the cockpit was torn to bits... war is terrible.
@p5parker
8 ай бұрын
Unsere tapferen Soldaten 🎉🎉🎉
@dennisdelevi8999
2 жыл бұрын
Those 30mm mk 108 guns were absolutely devastating.
@RobertMiller-ye9hm
2 жыл бұрын
Guy in the first spit never even tried to do an evasive turn
@blitzkopf7267
6 ай бұрын
sehr Gut
@tl5606
2 жыл бұрын
The very first clip doesn’t appear to be a P-51D at all. It looks to be a non bubble canopy variant. Those drop tanks could be gun pods, and that could point to it also potentially being an A-36 Apache. If you go frame by frame at 0:02 you will see.
@PoochAndBoo
2 жыл бұрын
Mustangs didn't carry "gun pods." It's a D model P-51. Freeze the frame and you can clearly see the bubble canopy.
@blowingfree6928
Жыл бұрын
TBH I thought it was a Thunderbolt!!
@JFS3
2 жыл бұрын
The Spitfire at the 0:39 mark appears to be a USAAF recon job, as if you run the footage at 0.25 speed, you can briefly see the star and white bar insignia on the top of the left wing when it dips @ 0:40.
@hw97karbine
2 жыл бұрын
They could also be invasion stripes, it's not very clear.
@itsonlyme9938
2 жыл бұрын
There is a doc on youtube where a USAF used a Spitfire MK11 (PA997) photo recon painted in sky blue I think the pilot is SGT Blyth, went to Berlin and back . Maybe you have seen it ? .
@blowingfree6928
Жыл бұрын
You are right, the Spitfire definitely has USAF insignia as can be seen on the left wing as it banks left. If PR he either was daydreaming or something fast crept up behind him, such as an ME262 or maybe something like a FW190D.
@blowingfree6928
Жыл бұрын
@@hw97karbine A possibility, but I think the markings are too far to the tip of the wing to be invasion stripes.
@МаксЦуров-э8с
2 жыл бұрын
The best!
@kiannlot
2 жыл бұрын
set speed to 1.5 or 2, it matches the true speed of the bullets and the motion
@dgerdi
2 жыл бұрын
I don’t wonder why the Me-262 was equipped with 30mm cannons. These birds are hard to kill.
@daskommandantkrieger2503
5 ай бұрын
Anyone else watching this to Die Walküre? ADMIT. IT.
@larsfinlay7325
2 жыл бұрын
man they find go pros in some crazy places!
@johnfuller1032
2 жыл бұрын
Awesome stuff.
@jacobs.9797
2 жыл бұрын
Man, that B-24 head on pass is hard to watch. Those rounds just sprayed the whole cockpit. I imagine there's no way to survive that.
@DeltaEchoGolf
6 ай бұрын
The Mustang was surprised! Didn't even have a chance to drop its fuel tanks!
@wisam111
2 жыл бұрын
Why is ww2 gun camera footage better than any modern gun camera on a fighter jet footage? On a modern fighter jet you can’t even see the plane.
@sirbacon1617
8 ай бұрын
Because on a modern fighter jet they are using missiles so they wont be close enough to see each other. Plus theres very little jet combat these days so not much to see lol.
@marcelopose
2 жыл бұрын
También debe ser aterrador cuando cientos de proyectiles errados van en dirección al suelo, dónde puede estar poblado de campesinos o tropas.
@SeriousStrategyGamer
2 жыл бұрын
Interesting to see so many B-17 with open bomb bay doors. I wonder whether its pure coincidence or whether there is some selection bias. Maybe these planes experienced some mechanical failure with the door and the additional drag meant they fell out of formation, leaving them as easy pray for Luftwaffe pilots? Pure speculation of course.
@The_Conspiracy_Analyst
Жыл бұрын
They won't be showing this one on the History Channel!
@stevetheduck1425
8 ай бұрын
Been on the History Channel in smaller bits and different compilations for decades. Have seen all of these before, so I'm glad to able to say Il-2 gamers didn't post them.
@Bigbouncybobs12
2 жыл бұрын
You can really tell they were trained to aim for engines
@daszieher
2 жыл бұрын
The best way to prevent the bomb load from being delivered to the target is to simply weaken the propulsive power that a fully loaded machine so deeply relies on. One swift pass could knock out one engine and the mission would most likely be over for that unit. And the fighter pilot would not risk too much. Remember, they also wanted to live another day.
@0Turbox
2 жыл бұрын
"Don't curve with a Spit!". ;)
@amirrezamousavian7621
2 жыл бұрын
Luftwaffe🔥🔥🔥🔥💪🏻💪🏻💪🏻💪🏻
@bryantbridgewaters7177
4 ай бұрын
If you look closely at the first clip, you can see the belt of 50 caliber ammunition falling out of the left wing.
@freelancenerd4804
2 жыл бұрын
Hard to watch them get shots on P 51’s
@bougeac
8 ай бұрын
For all the defensive firepower b24/b17s had, you rarely see any guns firing back at the gun-cam fighters that are hosing them down, any thoughts?
@guyfromfuture1918
8 ай бұрын
The gunners are most likely dead
@andreasu.3546
2 жыл бұрын
Interesting how even serious simulators like DCS are overdramatizing things. In this video here, you don't see a single wing coming off or airframe break apart afte a series of hits.
@josephastier7421
9 ай бұрын
The unescorted daylight raids were so costly the Allies finally stopped doing them until long range fighters entered the war.
@joshuaryan8104
Жыл бұрын
At about 1:12 was that a belly and tail gunner shooting it looks like tracer coming from the plane but i could be wrong
@biggs8440
2 жыл бұрын
Crazy how people spent their time..
@at1970
2 жыл бұрын
It looks like machine vs machine. But you have to think of the men involved.
@glennfalzo3718
2 жыл бұрын
1 bomber=10 men
@clostridiumtetani9947
2 жыл бұрын
I don't consider nazis human soooooo
@glennfalzo3718
2 жыл бұрын
@@clostridiumtetani9947 :They weren't ALL Nazis. A friend of my Dad's flew for Hitler in an Me109, he told us they were told that the allies were comming to take over Germany and they had to "Protect" the fatherland. THAT was the propaganda Hitler used. He said when he found out what Hitler was REALLY doing, he got his family and came to America, KNOWING if he was caught, he and his family would be EXECUTED on the spot!
@momotheelder7124
11 ай бұрын
0:41 does anyone else think that looks like a USAAF star on the Spitfire as it blows up?
@hw97karbine
11 ай бұрын
Indeed this is possibly a Spitfire PR Mk. XI that was operated by the USAAF for photo reconnaissance, which would also be consistent with the fact that it appears to have been ambushed alone in level flight.
@stevetheduck1425
8 ай бұрын
PR Spitfires operated by the USAAC seem to have been intercepted a number of times, this also happened to PR Spits with the RAF. Usually it took a high-altitude or jet fighter to reach them, but a lot of 'tactical' work was done, down at low level, sometimes with oblique (sideways-looking) cameras, sometimes with front-looking cameras, to avoid blurring due to speed. That shot of a Spitfire under fire while attacking what seems to be an Me-410 or possibly a Junkers Ju-88 is astonishing. Looks like target fixation for the Spitfire pilot and the German pilot.
@Wurstbrot5555
2 жыл бұрын
Good find! Where are the clips found?
@hw97karbine
2 жыл бұрын
Various online sources, especially Die Deutsche Wochenschau and similar propaganda newsreels. The internet archive is a good place to search: archive.org/details/movies
@loonloon6860
2 жыл бұрын
Damn that cameraman sure is hell lot a journey
@antonrudenham3259
2 жыл бұрын
Look at that Maltese Spit turn into the attack at 1:23, not a single round hits it!
@zarrir
7 ай бұрын
Pretty bad ass!
@FroggyFrog9000
2 жыл бұрын
good footage
@eugeniocamporato8427
2 жыл бұрын
You have a new subscribed from Italy
@hw97karbine
2 жыл бұрын
Grazie!
@eugeniocamporato8427
2 жыл бұрын
@@hw97karbine to you and your clips my friend.
@omega6599
2 жыл бұрын
@@eugeniocamporato8427 "subscribeR", Eugè
@eugeniocamporato8427
2 жыл бұрын
@@omega6599 grazie
@isGroty
2 жыл бұрын
Dont understand why fighters still flying straight while being shot...
@M1sc3
2 жыл бұрын
Não é um videogame, o piloto sente o efeito da força centrífuga.
@Reactordrone
2 жыл бұрын
First Mustang didn't know someone was on his tail, the Spitfire was fixated on attacking the Ju-88. Most kills are unaware targets.
@hw97karbine
2 жыл бұрын
From wartime surveys it seems the majority of pilots that were shot down were never aware of the attacking aircraft until it was too late.
@michaeld.uchiha9084
2 жыл бұрын
The best kill is the one when the enemy doesnt see you. Manfred von Richthofen aka Red Baron.
@anonydun82fgoog35
2 жыл бұрын
A lot of these people never saw it coming until it was too late. Remember it's the one you DON'T see that gets you.
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