it really says something about Jake and Van's acting that they don't need to kiss for us to feel and I mean really FEEL the tenderness and the intimacy they share...it's in their words and in their eyes. That was their way of telling the "No kiss ban" to fuck off
@juniperlove878
9 жыл бұрын
The reason it doesn't show them kissing is because I think at the time there was some gay kissing ban or something. Later on in the episodes, it does show them kissing more.
@rodolfoyoel
7 жыл бұрын
u are correct, there was a kissing ban that people was just really pissed off, specially during the Ameera story line, the producer made the decision to include a surprise kiss in olde town because they were already taped the kiss between noah and ameera and they knew the fans were gonna get piss because it wasn´t fair they have no problem showing 2 str8 people kissing but the gay couple was not allowed to do the same 4 more almost 8 months. The fans made a campaign sending hershey kisses and neck ties to the show in protest 4 the kissing ban, and there was a webpage with a clock that showed how many days the couple could remain without kissing.
@gamerincorporated154
3 жыл бұрын
@@rodolfoyoel there wasn't a ban per say. You must didn't see the Entertainment Tonight interview when this first was going on. Because remember, they had Will and Grace on TV without any issues
@rodolfoyoel
3 жыл бұрын
@@gamerincorporated154 There was a kissing ban, but the ban was made by P&G (the owners of ATWT rights). Producers decided not to show the couple kissing. In fact, there was a kiss that was taped but didn't aired because of the claims from "conservatives". After that, their kisses where implied, with fade away shots or they getting interrupted all the time. The kissing ban was so obvious, that fans started a campaign against it, sending hershey kisses and neck ties to the producers. Webapages started a countdown from the last time they kissed (they were 8 months without kissing). The controversy was even disscused in CNN and other channels. The interview in entertainment tonight that you are mentioning, it was about their first kiss. At that time, there was not kissing ban yet, the ban started after they kissed.
@la214la
3 жыл бұрын
There was most definitely a kissing ban at that time. The first two kisses were controversial and led to complaints I guess. Thankfully, the ban ended.
@jlrich2002
12 жыл бұрын
Every single time they look at eachother with those lovey eyes, my heart melts...BEST...COUPLE....EVER!
@kparker905
9 жыл бұрын
Aw, the part with the dad was so awkward. Because Luke's parents completely accept him as being gay and they actually like Noah, I guess I kind of forgot that they are still parents, and so if they walk in on Luke getting kind of hot with Noah, they might get a little weird and strict. Also, I think this surprised me because, I am not going to lie, I am used to seeing teenage couples that are straight, and usually in this situation, the dad will only get all strict if he walks in on his daughter and her boyfriend kissing, but if it is his son, he will usually just apologize and give a thumbs or something. But I guess there could be a different dynamic with this type of couple. I don't know, and I am not trying to offend anyone, I just thought it was funny when Holden kept saying things like "You're sleeping upstairs right" and to Noah, things that let him know that the couch was all made up and ready for him to sleep on, separate from his son. And then when Luke said "I'll see you in a bit" he replied, without missing a beat, "Yes you will"
@rodolfoyoel
7 жыл бұрын
It´s the same dynamic, the father just has the feeling his son must be the bottom LOL He wants to cherish his virtue.
@rwood6017
2 жыл бұрын
HA Loved that part. Dad was like any parent would be (I would). Awesome acceptance but there's a line in the house - no matter the sexuality.
@justaguy1768
10 жыл бұрын
"Same here" "Me too" Cue squeal like a little schoolgril
@JRRDPR
15 жыл бұрын
To me this scene "confession" was the single most beautiful,unforgettable love moment among any movies or real ones.Love you Van.:-)
@roselte
14 жыл бұрын
"Night, I'll see you in a bit." "Yes you will." Hahaha. Subtle, Holden.
@Sterre80
17 жыл бұрын
Although I hated the fact that yet AGAIN we didn't get to see a kiss (GRRRR), I have to admit that this episode was awesome!! Too romantic for words; just melted my heart... *If only we got that kiss... Sigh*
@loesiechan
13 жыл бұрын
When Noah said 'me too' before they went upstairs he was so thinking: 'I wish I was sleeping in your room, too' XD
@pershing7e
17 жыл бұрын
I didnt grow up with "i love you" in my house either...I can relate to noah and his awkwardness with the sentence. but I can also relate to luke wanting to hear it instead of read it.
@SurfistaCopa
11 жыл бұрын
Yeah, the kissing ban was incredibly discriminatory, but Van and Jake are bringing tears to my eyes anyway. Most beautiful love story I've ever seen ♥♥
@chrissieford8204
2 жыл бұрын
the first “same here” 🥺🥺
@Stonehouse84
15 жыл бұрын
I love how awkward the end moment with Holden is. It's so believeable. Weird because the rest of the story lines in ATWT are really horrible and stupid, but for some reason, when the writers write Luke's line, ever since his pre-coming out, it has always been very honest and accurate and smart. I mean, besides this no kissing ban, but thankfully it has been lifted now!
@shaynadavis4746
12 жыл бұрын
They should get a trip in Dusseldorf at No Limits..a place where you can kiss the one you love as much as you want.
@ghstlght
17 жыл бұрын
I watched the full episode on CBS, then the clips here again just to see NUKE. And after watching several of the full episodes I must say, there isn't much kissing between ANY of the couples. There is hugging, affectionate touching, but beyond that, this show is very story driven, not action driven. And the story here is GOLDEN, I'm still wiping tears from my eyes. Makes me wish I had someone special in my life around the holidays. :o\
@dontworrybehappy44
15 жыл бұрын
Dear god I love these two!!! I can't get enough, so addicted it is insane lol
@GardenWitchStudio
13 жыл бұрын
@1lisai Long story short, from what I remember, there were a lot of conservatives that did speak out against it, it got a lot more news than that small kiss really deserved. There was a kissing ban for about 7 months. The 2nd kiss was part 66 and the 3rd kiss was part 159. They perfect the art of hugging in the meantime, even after the ban lifts, i.e. my favorite hug in part 165.
@turkleton05
16 жыл бұрын
I love (and hate) how Holden is all "You're sleeping upstairs, *right*?" And then looks to Noah and says, "The couch is all set up." Like, "Hey, I don't want you spending any time with my son." It's funny.. in a concerned-parent kind of way.
@supernaturalawesome1
13 жыл бұрын
Noah "you know mistletoe can be deadly if you eat it". Luke " but a kiss can be even deadlier if you mean it". LOL
@dragonmage86
17 жыл бұрын
AAARGH!!! They came so close! but the whole lovey bit was beuatiful. i was almost in tears.
@SerdnaSagrav
15 жыл бұрын
I thought I was the only one! I've watched like 2 years worth of plot in a week.
@popcandymoon766
11 жыл бұрын
when luke said I love u I curled up into a ball and fan girl screamed.
@floorrunner
17 жыл бұрын
This was the best episode yet.
@rupviv
17 жыл бұрын
Oh yes, romantic, I agree. Moreover, I think more than the words, Van Hansis' strong acting ability is what made it so touching. rupviv
@ella8701
17 жыл бұрын
"im so in love with you" ahhh that got me! giggles! i predicted this on part 42! haha i knew luke would say it first hes so cute what a vulnarable moment for luke that would be so scary for me.
@MusicLover-ld6dp
9 жыл бұрын
Oh my gosh! I'm being carried away by the scenes. I just honestly thought that this Luke and Noah relationship does not exist in real life (just my opinion) and if there is, well, I'm happy for the both of you. I'm in love with nobody :( :) It's just that this drama made it possible for me to feel the love that a person feels towards a person with same sex even just for a couple of minutes. This is my first time to watch this although it was aired 8 years earlier..
@52ortiz
11 жыл бұрын
By this time in this program i could not imagine which one had the bluer ball's..
@pershing7e
17 жыл бұрын
in my opinion I dont think that it was a bad situation, they DID kiss, but it was also a symbolic kiss under mistletoe. so I can live with this kiss, its a start, what you have to understand is this is daytime, not FX, or primetime, we have to take what we are given, but still stand strong to demand more. this was a beautiful segment today.
@atwtfan1
17 жыл бұрын
I think it fits his character. I know Col Crazy never told his son he loved him. He doesn't express himself all that well. That's why he had to say it in a card. I totally understand where he is coming from.
@Dano853
17 жыл бұрын
They had the actors kiss at the beggining of the NUKE story to get us hooked. Now its just day after day of "near kiss" disappointment. But I still say bravo to Grandma for laying down sensible ground rules.
@ne333
11 жыл бұрын
This is my third time watching the entire storyline...I still squeal and giggle and enjoy it oh so much
@LilRippy
15 жыл бұрын
oooooh!! this is just, so cute. AH! *squee* i never get tired of watching this scene
@sukicleo
15 жыл бұрын
I think its the one after Ameera leaves a note and they are on the bed and he says " love you Luke, I am so in love with you!" That is the first face to face I love you from him, but he says it all the time now, and usually first.
@darkangel64593
11 жыл бұрын
Awww. they FINALLY said they love each other (in a roundabout kind of way) but at least this is the first time they've both said it.
@gvaser
15 жыл бұрын
I'm so tired after watching it late late at night and every morning I also get up an half hour earlier than necessary - but what can I say I'm addicted! Glad I'm not the only crazy person here... :D
@lostsoul368
15 жыл бұрын
Both of them r so lucky to have eachother.
@acceptanceisbliss
16 жыл бұрын
i bet you anything its to keep people coming back to watch....we're all anxiously waiting and they have us on a leash!!! lol
@49erangelducks
17 жыл бұрын
i agree andy.. just have them show some affection. for pete's sake they are in love with each other. this DEFINITELY warranted a kiss. not a pan up to a mistletoe.. it's sucks to go from being happy in what happened leading up to this. then get angry and pissed because we were denied a showing of affection between luke and noah after a declaration of love.. freaking ridiculous!!!!
@MrsxEdwardCullen96
15 жыл бұрын
Everytime I watch this, or like one of there moments, I smile so big. :DD
@emullins_1975
17 жыл бұрын
Doesn't this just make you want to bawl. Luke tells Noah he loves him & is in love with him. same here is Noah's reply. That was disappointing that they were interupted yet again. That is so kewl that they are letting Noah stay and they are accepting him into the family. Then right before they go up, they just give that look to each other. You know I read somewhere that the grandmother catches Luke & Noah in bed. As for what it is that they're doing, guess we'll just have to find out.
@06LanceMe
16 жыл бұрын
Mistletoegate: We all know that they kissed when the cam panned. The writers just need to let us assume that the guys have done a little knob-polishing in the truck already!
@CrazyMoha
15 жыл бұрын
Mee too! I spend my nights in front of the computer; laughing, crying, jumping off my chair just because of these two =) It's crazy.
@AngelClaudiaW
15 жыл бұрын
@ calculat0r123 : Thats in part 167, the first time that Noah's says 'I love you, Im so in love with you' back to Luke.
@Scheffie88
12 жыл бұрын
OH MY GOD, COME ON!!! This is driving me crazy!! They've had such beautiful moments, where a small sweet kiss would've been perfect, but oh no!
@Jaihdev
16 жыл бұрын
Holden still feels awkward about the two "bonding," but I see this as natural. He isn't used to guys making out or showing "affection," probably his whole life, and so this is weird for him. Most dads, of course, don't like to visualize or see their sons doing very private things with another guy, so even the issue of where Luke and Noah were going to sleep was already decided by Holden and his conclusion was: not together. I'd just sneak downstairs and meet up with Noah- they are in college!
@jennyhorton2566
7 жыл бұрын
I loved the scene...wenever someone says I am so in love with u...it gvs me goosebumps and these 2 guys share such an amazing chem and Van's voice modulation is just wow...I missed the kiss is the least I can say but wat pissed me off was the darkness...I cudnt even see their expressions properly....cudnt they hv more light like wen luke's dad entered...
@srayj
15 жыл бұрын
Yeah, but the feelings are there even if the words aren't. It's kind of like in the movie Ghost when Demi Moore's character is always saying "I love you" and Patrick Swayze's character replys "ditto." "Same here" is Noah's version of ditto. And, I wouldn't mind seeing them make some shirtless pottery to Unchained Melody! :o)
@fanofken4ever
15 жыл бұрын
That's silly when they just show 2 kisses on screen & the third kiss had to wait so long for fans' support. Were they scared? Anyway, I love what luke said in this part, so moving. "The feeling of walking into a room & having somebody else happy to see you".
@futureidol83
15 жыл бұрын
It was originally on Showtime actually, and it's in syndication on LOGO without the swearing or nudity :( I used to record every ep when it originally aired, but now I have it all on DVD. I actually used to have a web site devoted to QAF and Showtime sent me a bunch of QAF stuff. They are a great network.
@pianomist
11 жыл бұрын
I remember there was a video edited with this scene and Will & Grace, here on KZitem. The scene with Will & Grace was where they were watching Nuke (this scene) on TV and the episode of Will & Grace was supposed to be them watching another scene of two guys kissing and they also panned away, like this scene. It was funny and creative that they did that, heh. I can't find it anymore though... They must have taken it down.
@orlisbabe
14 жыл бұрын
1:09 'You don't have to say this back... but .. I I love you Noah..... I'm so in love with you' 'Luke ...same here' xD Awe. So cute. Don't worry Noah, you'll get the guts to say it eventually. ..Reminds me kind of of Christian from 'Verbotene Liebe'.. and how he had a tough time saying 'I love you' out loud to Oli at first too.
@itzpapalotl13
16 жыл бұрын
The best line of this scene has got to be..."Mama has made up the couch for you." It really is just too perfect. LOL!
@adw23oa
17 жыл бұрын
i love noah eyes when luke told him he is in love with him sooo lovely they are both hot but still it will have been nice with a kiss or hug. damn cbs they got us smitten on nuke and now they are treating us like fools
@bydamouf
13 жыл бұрын
UGH!!!!!!!!!!! I hate that stupid kissing ban! It's so lame! BTW love the sarcasm @thorium222 very funny! And I so melted when Luke told Noah that he loved him! GAH!!! So sweet!
@Ches19.
11 жыл бұрын
And honestly when I finished Nuke (haven't watched Luke/Reid and never will) and made the transition to Chrolli, I was genuinely and seriously stunned at how open and free they were with gay kisses. I mean, one of the very beginning scenes with Olli has him making out in his boxers with another dude on the couch. And shirtless making out, and many, many other kisses in between. Like, ATWT, COME ON, GET WITH THE TIMES
@fairygrrl45
15 жыл бұрын
OMG I'M CRAZY TOO!!!!! I'M SOOOOO GLAD I'M NOT ALONE!!!!!----- Also Holden "your sleeping upstairs right?........so protective of his boy! ha ha!
@pershing7e
17 жыл бұрын
being holden I think he knew what was gonna happen downstairs and didnt want emma to walk in lol
@SnapeGirlUSA
14 жыл бұрын
Holden: "Mamma made up the couch for you. Anything else you need?" Noah: "YES! A cold shower apparently!! Thanks for the interruption, jerkface"
@numbersandletters
17 жыл бұрын
So funny that you wrote this because I just re-watched the clips with Maddie and Noah yesterday and got frustrated all over again seeing how often they had Noah and Maddie attached at the lip, but won't even show a kiss here during a big moment in their relationship.
@crazygirl97
17 жыл бұрын
okay. First, Will kissed his boyfriend played by Taye Diggs and quite possibly Vince. Second, Will and Jack were never dating and we rarely saw Jack's boy-toys. Third, Will and Grace was a break through show of its time. Times have changed and thus we should expect more than the ground breaking shows.
@GaryWright238
17 жыл бұрын
Exactly...if we complain they may pull the storyline completely and this is not what we want.
@seamus1956
17 жыл бұрын
Give it a rest people. Yes, there have been a couple of opportunities for a kiss, it will only happen when the characters have absolute privacy. Regardless of how at ease Noah seems, remember he is newly out. I had a boyfriend within a few weeks after coming to the realization I was gay, but it took me six months before I could show him any public affection. Kisses came later. Give them time.
@Ches19.
11 жыл бұрын
Oh dear Lord they're not even trying to hide the fact that they're deliberately not showing Nuke kisses. I've already watched this before but it seriously grates on my nerves every time...
@thorium222
14 жыл бұрын
omg that was so close if they had shown the kiss, nazis would ride on flying dinosaurs to rule a world devastated by erupting volcanos while it would be raining frogs and drops of the blood of jesus christ (hence drawn together) phew, we are so glad that the producers keep that in mind
@GaryWright238
17 жыл бұрын
You are perfectly correct...we are just happy that there is a gay couple on TV...we dont need to see them in bed together...the touch of a hand, the kissing on the hand...the looks in their eyes...that is more than enough.
@adw23oa
16 жыл бұрын
i am sooo in love with you, ah that was beautiful, they didnt show them kissing, but those romantic words was more than enough for me. i love them and their story.
@squishy1001
14 жыл бұрын
somebody is gonna die for this! luke: i love you noah: same heere?
@xrcizedr
17 жыл бұрын
What did Luke say at the very end?? Thanks for all the posts. The fade away was disappointing but the story line was so rich, it brought me to tears.
@gnattybug
16 жыл бұрын
*Dies laughing at the editing* Oh, american day time television....
@xoMrsWentzxo
17 жыл бұрын
i loved this episode. it was so cute. though i was disappointed about not showing the kiss. i was expecting a little more than a mistletoe in my view.
@tobeoncloud9
15 жыл бұрын
Actually the camera aims at the mistletoe, they directly beneath it but it's so friggin' dark you can hardly see it
@m1keyvt
17 жыл бұрын
Proctor and Gamble are totally undeserving of Nuke, Van, Jake, and this storyline b/c they don't know how to treat it with RESPECT. I don't know how much longer I can do this...thinking they'd show Nuke with honesty...expecting a kiss and being disappointed every time. It kinda feels like a relationship that has soured..."But maybe he'll change!!!" Nope. Nothing has changed.
@mcdeanfan
16 жыл бұрын
go to the related videos and click onto part42 mistletoe comes in handy for Luke and Noah. its the uncut version and you see them snog.
@crazygirl97
17 жыл бұрын
OMG. I remember that episode. poor Jack. poor us.
@GaryWright238
17 жыл бұрын
Not having seen this when it was broadcast on TV I cant say that the original was shot in dark lighting...it may have been a problem with the transfer...but having said that, I do agree that ATWT producers have limited the kissing but does that really matter...the scenes are quite romantic and does not need the addition of a kiss.
@suck691
12 жыл бұрын
A misletoe kiss that's so original :P
@BCH092385
17 жыл бұрын
This reminded me of that episode from Will & Grace: when Will and Jack were watching there favorite soap opera, and the two guys on the TV were about to kiss, and then it just faded away to the fireplace. i officially know how Jack felt then, right now, LOL but with censorship aside, the storyline was amazing. looked very real and full of emotion. i got a little teary eyed for a quick second.
@writerindisguise
16 жыл бұрын
As annoyed as I am about the panning to the mistletoe thing, it was so funny when Luke said, 'See you in a bit," and Holden was like, "Yes you will." lol. :P But I do have a question: Why did Holden come downstairs? If he didn't think anyone was down there, so he just felt like walking down the stairs and back up? Did he need his middle of the night exercise or something?
@djork05
17 жыл бұрын
I know what you mean...I wish I had a supportive family like Luke's combined with a sweet boyfriend like Noah.
@jasoneatsworms6564
10 жыл бұрын
actually I don't think the lack of kissing is a general American television choice... cuz the soap 'days of our lives' has will and Sonny kissing all the time.. I think its just more a decision of this show.
@Craigy2818
9 жыл бұрын
Jason EatsWorms This was 2007-2008 though, right? As time went on, those rules were relaxed more and more.
@moomeister3
17 жыл бұрын
I am completely outraged! They haven't kissed since, well...forever ago! And now, when it could be incredibly romantic, yada yada yada, the move the camera off of them! I can't believe they did that, it is completely horrible!!! That's so frustrating!!! I don't even know how to react except in anger and fury.
@MagnumSXT85
17 жыл бұрын
I very much agree with pershing7e: except, I think that the show and P&G are starting to regret introducing this story...I only say that because, when Noah was dating maddie, they kissed every 30 seconds, and Noah was the one who initiated both kisses with Luke etc.
@XNancieRoseX
14 жыл бұрын
Okay, I know about the whole 'kissing ban' thing (which, for the record, I think was really stupid) and I know that they thought the sight of two mens lips touching could cause somebody to have an anuerysm or something like that but seriously, if I get another scene when the camera slides from these two before they kiss my brain may just explode. But och, that speech from Luke turned me into a complete and utter fangirl
@Ark_bleu
16 жыл бұрын
finally, someone who is thinking with sense! As much as I'd like to see them kiss, CBS didn't necessarily add the gay plot line just for the hell of it. Their exploring a different type of plot. But EXPLORING is not the same as assimilating
@robby35us
13 жыл бұрын
@TomBoii3009 He doesn't say anything. I think that was the point. In Luke's monologue under the mistletoe Luke speaks about what it's like to have someone around who knows what you mean without having to say everything, and I think the Luke's silence + Noah's "me too" was going back to that.
@BlackShadowMagicxx
13 жыл бұрын
*emotionally* 'i love you Noah, im so.. in love with you' 'Luke.. same here' what?! XD
@bktstiffy
17 жыл бұрын
Okay I agree that it sucks that we don't get to see them kiss. However, I also agree that the network probably doesn't care. In a way just the fact that they are a "normal" gay couple is nice. I really kinda enjoy that fact that even though they don't use PDA, kiss in public, or have even had sex they still care for each other. In todays world that is really hard to find. I was over joyed to hear them say those words to each other. About damn time!
@benefit1984
15 жыл бұрын
What was that random Holden-checking-who-was-there moment?? Give them a chance to kiss!
@Lonarix1
12 жыл бұрын
If I could cry I would've definitely had been after hearing what Luke just said. ),:
@PenutButterNBannas
17 жыл бұрын
well Noah just came out and i don't think he is ready, but still i would be happy to see him say it
@pershing7e
17 жыл бұрын
Im not so much worried about kissing as I am about the whole story in general. its amazing that a soap has even come so far as to let a gay couple become part of it...and the bigger picture is people actually want to see it and I think its becuase it has been tastefully done and not "shocking" or unrealistic. bravo to cbs and P&G for allowing the gay community to be seen and heard on daytime and not as a joke or side show but as a real story.
@glow54
16 жыл бұрын
Even though the kiss was cut, this was an incredible scene between Luke and Noah.
@vimaro22
17 жыл бұрын
Oh my God, they are so cute. I have nothing else to say.
@Lusciaa
16 жыл бұрын
Really???O_O I didn't know...I was thinking taht the writers didn't want kisses between Noah and Luke... The thing it's really different now! thanks for the explanation!
@sonic331va
17 жыл бұрын
Take what you can get, ya? I think today's episode showed their relationship growing more than anything in the past couple of months. I mean sure we'd all love to see them kiss, but really, there's not that much of that on this show anyways. I'll admit it's been a lot slower building than every other relationship, but I think it's better to kind of ease into it ever-so-slowly as not to enrage the other 75% of the population that watches. LOL... I have a lot more to say... *runs to LJ*
@maigokonekochan
14 жыл бұрын
AWWWWWWWWWWWWWW :[ GOD DAMN IT THEY ARE SO CUTE TOGETHER XD
@badman32
15 жыл бұрын
omg me too! i started on...wait wat day is today?...oh nvm it wednsday. i started on saturday nite and have been watching non-stop. Even in class! ive only gotten about 4 hrs of sleep in the past 2 days!!
@maqclark
17 жыл бұрын
Everybody's complaining about a lack of a kiss, yet we keep tuning in to see when it will happen again. These writers know what they're doing.
@lukevanfanfan
17 жыл бұрын
He zekretzpy, where can I find that vid clip? Thisone was too dak for mee too!
@kumagorospaz
16 жыл бұрын
-cough-... you know.. the grandmother said the bedroom was off limits... she never said anything about the couch ;D
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