30 + videos to get to one that actually defines this DIM 2 slot is an Expansion card slot for M.2 SSDs. FFS. Thank you for being abundantly clear
@user-yp9wl2sc2d
9 ай бұрын
Great Video, I installed the EZDIY-FAB NVME PCIE-adapter and a Samsung 970 EVO Plus 1 TB PCIe NVMe M.2 to my DELL Aurora R11 without any problems, Thanks
@NikosRentas
9 ай бұрын
That's awesome to hear!
@cinemaipswich4636
Жыл бұрын
It is the drive that holds the "Gen 3 or Gen 4" ability. The PCIe cards are just links to the computer. You may see the "tracers" on the PCIe cards that will lead from the NVMe to the PCIe slot, and they will give you how many "Lanes" are available. The boards themselves do not determine speed.
@herrjohnssen
11 ай бұрын
Well yes, but this is only partially true. If I put a gen 4 nvme in a gen 3 slot, it will run at gen 3 speeds
@greendragonfly4831
Жыл бұрын
Working with an Ivy Bridge board and still nailing 75fps on relevant titles makes me feel like Tony fkn Stark. This is vital information thank you.
@walter_lesaulnier
Жыл бұрын
The free Clover Bootlader is EXCELLENT for booting from an NVMe PCIe card on an older PC that isn't compatible with NVMe.
@THUNDER52
3 жыл бұрын
Looking at dual M.2 expansion cards (due to my situation the $80+ dual vs single card saves me $125+) and all I’m finding is lower end Kingston cards. Trying to learn so I’m not missing anything. Got an original M.2 on release (256GB and paid $270ish for it) and I need a LOT more and the port on my motherboard is horribly placed and the drive gets loose and crashes the PC - hence an expansion card. Great video, shocked at low subs - so I’m subbing.
@NikosRentas
3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the sub! Yeah, unfortunately you have to test out different products. I found this one to be the best out of the lot for gen 4. If the price is over 60 or so it is worth to jump up to a 4 bay by asus or gigabit.
@211sweetypie
Жыл бұрын
Great video sir! You went deep into explaining everything you need to know when choosing a new faster drive.
@iggswanna1248
Ай бұрын
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@tminusoftexas3224
Жыл бұрын
Thank you for this video!! im here in April 2023 and needed this
@wcarreon01
2 жыл бұрын
Good review. Was looking at getting a pcie nvme expansion card and this definitely shed alot of light to my questions. Thanks!
@benny3045
Жыл бұрын
Thank you so much it's been hard to find good content on this topic! I'm a bit worried about thermals since i'm going to place it below my graphics card but i guess i'll just try it out.
@ThunderKat
Жыл бұрын
Crystal disk test could bring more real to life results if you stress it by bumping the option on size and amount X times test, would be nice seen if sustain speed improve and by how much. My only issue with this products is the pricing, it should be cheap but for marketing reason thy bump price to ridiculous prices. If I had to use one I probably go all the way with a 4x M.2 slot and PCI-E 4.0 as even modern system carry that extra x16 PCI-E slot on the side (RIP SLI/CrossFire).
@vincentleeadams
Жыл бұрын
I fell asleep watching this video. Good job! 😂
@NikosRentas
9 ай бұрын
lol
@tigerbalm666
2 жыл бұрын
Laughable how these brands confuse peeps by using Gbps or MBps...
@NikosRentas
2 жыл бұрын
100% lol
@KleoYan
3 жыл бұрын
Thank you Nikos, I have started watching your videos and you always have a clear explanation .. keep up the good work and stay safe :)
@NikosRentas
3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Kleo! I appreciate the comment and the feedback! You keep safe as well.
@ErnestoEduardoDobarganes
Жыл бұрын
great video, well established and produced. Thanks for the info.
@403errorskydaddynotfound3
2 жыл бұрын
Man I think I just discovered a hidden gem for tech information. I also got experience with those PCIe cards, currently losing connectivity I have gone through four different types personally and I’m currently using the one you are also. Anywho will explore your channel more in the coming days.
@NikosRentas
2 жыл бұрын
Appreciate the comment and yeah the hunt for these types of tech is endless.
@lachnloaded2
Жыл бұрын
excellent video, thank you
@NikosRentas
9 ай бұрын
thanks!
@nickcucchiara
Жыл бұрын
Thank you for this as it's been 12 years since I built my PC so I'm a little out of the loop on these. I'll keep it short and simple. Purpose video Editing & photography Board ProArt Z690-Creator & intel i9, RTX 3080 Ti 12GB Question; will the pcie 4.0 M.2 increase the 12 GB to make a 20 minute video in 1080? I had a 3 minute video in DaVinci Resolve and the program stated I didn't have enough to continue thus as you can see I'm trying to take care of the issue with a new system for the next 12 years with build 3. If so maybe I can go with the RTX Ti 3060 8GB for budget. If you want a good laugh I'm on dual graphics cards crossfiring Sapphire 2010 models Maybe a Lain Li full tower aluminum 22 years old in black with a window in on the like list.
@ARCWoodCraft
2 жыл бұрын
Just found your channel, like it very much! Can I ask the following as I am struggling to find the answers in the marketing blurb? 1- on the ASUS Hyper card, does each NVME show up as a separate drive in Windows Explorer? Or does any drives on the board show up as one single drive? And 2- does the board use 4pcie lanes in total, or does it try to use 4 per drive, therefore using bandwidth that could/should be used by my flu in the x16 slot at the top? I’m very confused 🤔
@NikosRentas
2 жыл бұрын
This is a tough one. You need to loop up your motherboard and check to see if it is supported and how. The Hyper card requires PCIe bifurcation to work for all drives from what I understand. I never got one to test because when I look up the specs for my motherboard, I can only one ssd in the slot for pcie_2 and if it is Pcie_1 I can use 3. In theory it should be able to split all 4 drives in the x16 slot going up to 256Gbps on a x570 board but it doesn't. It seems it works better on Intel chip boards. Check out this link www.asus.com/us/support/FAQ/1037507/
@ARCWoodCraft
2 жыл бұрын
@@NikosRentas cheers for replying, and for the info! Total legend 👍👍
@NikosRentas
2 жыл бұрын
lol thanks
@petemiddleton64
Жыл бұрын
If ya want put windows on it your motherboard got to have M.2 socket if not you can use an adapter for the m2 it will not boot from pci express
@Annqush
2 жыл бұрын
That graph of PCIe speeds you refer is not actual MB slot speeds. On allmost all motherboards (exept TR4) second PCIe slot is x8 electrical, so on that Asus addon card (it is not a RAID card) will let you use max 2 drives. You need full electrical x16 slot for 4 drives. And MB Bios must support bifurcation.
@NikosRentas
2 жыл бұрын
Yes, you are looking at PCIe 3.0 speed on the second PCIe slot. TR4 does an x16. This is why I referenced using the top slot if you sacrifice the video card on the bottom slot. I should have been more clear.
@gregorytownend5337
3 жыл бұрын
Great Video and explanation
@NikosRentas
3 жыл бұрын
Thanks! I appreciate the comment!
@vladislavkaras491
Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video!
@NikosRentas
9 ай бұрын
Thanks!
@dkphantomdk
Жыл бұрын
I upgraded from a WD SN750 1TB PCIe3.0 to a WD SN850X 2TB PCIe 4.0.. and.. its faster ! so I wanted it ! So now I have a WD SN850 1TB + WD SN850X 2TB.. on a Asus Tuf X570 mobo, so its all good !
@TTVModernTsar
Жыл бұрын
Great video, appreciate it.
@gogetablue7905
4 ай бұрын
Would I lost Graphics Card speed or any negative effects on the pcie speeds? I'm stuck between studying this method of storage installation or just add Sata SSD. I will rewatch the video next time
@groundzero2k10
3 ай бұрын
is it possible to adapt and use a M.2 Expansion Card to use the RAM SLOT instead of the GRAPHIC CARD SLOT?
@gamertechlive1780
Жыл бұрын
Look that x16 slot only uses x4 but made with x16 so that it will be removable like a RAM and doesn't require a pci slot bracket holder. The x4 slot runs at x4 and has a bracket obviously a x4 slot plug on a x16 or x8 is definitely not secured on the slot without a bracket.
@KhalilArafan
Жыл бұрын
Excellent stuff
@souravpramanick2432
Жыл бұрын
Just found your channel, Can I ask the following as I am struggling to find the answers in the marketing blurb? 1- on the ASUS Hyper card, does each NVME show up as a separate drive in Windows Explorer? Or does any drives on the board show up as one single drive? And 2- does the board use 4pcie lanes in total, or does it try to use 4 per drive, therefore using bandwidth that could/should be used by my flu in the x16 slot at the top? &1 things i follow 1have only 1 pice micron 2400 nvme m.2 card ,it support & detect only 1st slot ,but when i open & put on 2nd slot it not detected in my windows but hyper card led work please help me... i cant understand that its my nvme support issue or card issue I’m very confused 🤔 please help me
@Excalibur250
Жыл бұрын
Turns out my board's m.2 slot takes up my sata lanes so I'm looking to get one of these to get my sata slots back for my other drives. Asus Maximus Hero 8 board.
@unrealone1
Жыл бұрын
great work
@ironsteal
Жыл бұрын
What about 3 in 1 adapters? Does full length gold finger work on electricity x4 (x16 length slot) or does it need all the wires like on a graphics card for full speed. I know you can run a video card on electricity x4 because mine at least worked just slower
@ahnguyen78
2 жыл бұрын
Can someone help me to get a nvme to pcie true x8 or x16 expansion card? All of the card i have look at are x4 only in x16 form factor. I want to use it to get PICe 2.0 x8 or x16 speed.
@NikosRentas
2 жыл бұрын
Did you find one? I looked and can't find anything new. Used would be the way to go. That being said, any PCIE 3.0 or 4.0 will downgrade to the 2.0.
@beersandbacon
2 жыл бұрын
That Asus card only works in Asus boards. I have an evga z690 classified and I tried that card and no matter what I did it only detected 1 drive on the card
@stuartsherman5975
2 жыл бұрын
Awesome video. Greatly appreciate the breakdown. I have x99 Asus deluxe ii mobo with the it 6850k cpu. Will the ASUS Hyper M.2 X16 PCIe 4.0 X4 Expansion Card Supports 4 NVMe M.2 you mentioned in the video work with my mobo? I plan on getting one 1tb drive now and then upgrade later.
@kouderuivy
2 жыл бұрын
Probably not even though pcie is backwards compatible. I would try and find a pcie 3.0 version just to be safe. Or you can buy from Amazon and if it doesn't work send it back.
@NikosRentas
2 жыл бұрын
I looked up the MOBO and @Kouderu Ivy is correct. You only have a pcie 3.0 on the first lane and Pcie 2.0 on the other lanes. You won't get more speed than that. I would be looking at a 3.0 if anything. However, how long will you keep the current setup? You might end up with an upgrade and then be stuck with a slower pcie3.0. If you buy a 4.0 you can always use it later on. That being said, who knows what they come up with as we are getting a big upgrade next year with the 5.0.
@stuartsherman5975
2 жыл бұрын
Thank you both very much. It is very much appreciated. I think it is time to upgrade 🤔
@NikosRentas
2 жыл бұрын
Awesome!
@trailrideadventures
Жыл бұрын
I have a spare nvme and an old pc so its the $20 option
@mrmixfun7056
3 жыл бұрын
my motherb gigabite h110m DS2...... can i install m.2?
@NikosRentas
3 жыл бұрын
You could install an M.2 in the pcie slot You would get gen 3 speeds. I would buy it from somewhere you can return it to test it.
@commanderoof4578
2 жыл бұрын
C_Paynes x8 x m.2 x m.2 is what im looking at seeing as i have to use a riser cable i can happily use it and i am fine knee-capping my GPU to 4.0 x8 but i need the extra 2 slots… But for now i dont have the funds nor time to even install it if i had it on me ready to go, would take the best part of a day to sort out my system in a worst case scenario, tho best case like 35 minutes But dont have the funds nor time assuming worst case
@NikosRentas
2 жыл бұрын
Always schedule more time and more budget for these things. That's been my learning curve last few years. Something always pops up.
@Toulkun
2 жыл бұрын
So is it worth getting expansion slot for m2? My motherboard is Gigabyte B460m and it had only one m2 slot.
@NikosRentas
2 жыл бұрын
yeah, but you need to check your board. This is an x16 and would go in the second pcie slot. Yours only has one which would be the video card. You need to find one that has an x4.
@danhthezanis944
2 ай бұрын
Is there any issues about bios version when using this ?
@sohrabsinghsmagh
2 жыл бұрын
Pls reply i have h110 m -s2 lga 1151 ddr4 ( gigabyte mother board supports 6th generation processor Supports 1* pcie 3*16 Pls reply it helps a lot Can i put nvme with adapter support? Or better to go for ssd dram
@nbot3000
8 ай бұрын
What is on the pcie3 MB insert a 16x nvme adapter and put two samsung 990 pro in raid 0, which speed will i have? 8 gb total or 16? Second question. What if i will enable VROC? Mb is msi x299 xpower ac
@NikosRentas
7 ай бұрын
I haven't found one that will work to full potential. Some people have managed to get the asus products with 4 drives to work. VROC I haven't tested.
@CageyLeigh
11 ай бұрын
I just want a PCIE 4.0 expansion card for 2 NVME drives - but NOT in a RAID configuration - and they just don’t exist. The only cards I could find were those that support one NVME and one SATA connection. Not what I want.
@NikosRentas
9 ай бұрын
Asus has that 4 drive card. You can run it joint or separate but it has to be the asus brand. I think there is a nother brand too. I feel your pain. I wish they had something like that
@carlosgoncalves5447
Жыл бұрын
Good day, what expsansion card will work on DELL sever R540 or R740?
@sheduwgaming
2 жыл бұрын
Hey, i have a msi H310M Pro-VDH Plus Motherboard. I was debating between getting a SSD 2.5 card or getting a nvme m.2 SSD plus a pci extender since i dont have a m.2 slot on my motherboard. Which one would u recommend?
@v1m30
2 жыл бұрын
4:20 Gen 3 drives 200 bucks... yeah you're getting ripped off because 1TB NVMe is under 100 USD, PCIe 3.0x4 NVMe 1.3 and cheaper than old SATA. TLC too, not stupid QLC. Where as the PCIe 4.0 drives are pricey, always.
@NikosRentas
2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, Canada bro.. prices are everywhere. They generally price them high and put sales on with the gen 4.
@otdosa
Жыл бұрын
how do i know what adapter has boot rom?????
@dhyansegyan5644
Жыл бұрын
PCIE 3.0 x 4 speed
@MrJr1976
2 жыл бұрын
I have a quick question. I'm thinking about getting a 4 card PCIE expansion card with an EVGA FTW3 3080 on an ASUS TUF X570. Will I be able to fit the drives on the backside of the card or will it conflict with the spacing to the GPU?
@NikosRentas
2 жыл бұрын
I looked it up and didn't find the dimensions on EVGA. The images looks like it should be fine but the issue will be airflow. If the card is too close you might find that there isn't enough airflow flowing through. You may want to go with a card raiser for your machine. For my machine it would be this lian-li.com/product/lancool-ii-1x/
@MrBigGStyle
2 жыл бұрын
I have an older PC with a 3rd gen i7. What PCI to m.2 adapter should I order that will fit ASUS P8Z77-V LK LGA 1155 Intel Z77?
@NikosRentas
2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, older generation will take a gen 3. On page 13 of the manual you see quite a few slots. The second x16 slot is a PCIe 3.0/2.0 x8. So really you can get away with any gen 3 adapter. These are generally backwards compatible so if you buy one that is Gen 4 you would be able to use it again in a newer machine when you upgrade. here is link to your manual. www.asus.com/SupportOnly/P8Z77V_LK/HelpDesk_Manual/
@GeraltOfTheRivia
8 ай бұрын
so, if i use adapter that supports gen4, can i still use my gen 3 nvme m.2?
@NikosRentas
7 ай бұрын
Yeah, it should. But one I tested did not work on backwards compatibility.
@kvpham
2 жыл бұрын
is there exist a pcie adapter card that gives you m.2 slot AND a 19 pin usb header?
@NikosRentas
2 жыл бұрын
Haven't seen any like that. Usually they are separate. I have seen the pcie and sata connectors. www.amazon.ca/CERRXIAN-Adapter-Controller-Expansion-Profile/dp/B07VRY6FPH/ref=dp_fod_1?pd_rd_i=B07VRY6FPH&psc=1
@yogowong
3 жыл бұрын
Can you help me please. It maybe a simple answer for you. I have a Z490 motherboard, and just bought 980 pro recently. Just realised that PCIE 4 is out of the equation for these 2. What is mu solution? Will the Hyper M2 expansion do the job in getting that PCIE 4 from the NVME?? Thanks in advance
@NikosRentas
3 жыл бұрын
What's your motherboard and processor?
@yogowong
3 жыл бұрын
@@NikosRentas Asus Z490 and 10th generation intel
@NikosRentas
3 жыл бұрын
Seems that the z490 will have the firmware upgrade to PCIe 4.0 but 10th Generation won't. You would have to upgrade the chip to 11th Generation. The Hyper M2 expansion should work but you need to look at the specifications doc and look at your motherboard and chipset. Here is the link www.asus.com/us/support/FAQ/1037507/ That being said, you won't get the Gen 4 speed from one drive. The idea here would be that you are splitting the slots in the expansion card and creating a raid for the Gen 4 speeds equivalence. So you would need at least two drives. Might not be worth it for that money unless you do go to two drives. At that I would recommend purchasing from where you can return the products as I have heard some people not have issues while other did. Might be just worth it to upgrade the chip.
@johnbrackettii9468
2 жыл бұрын
I have asus x570 with 2x1 tb 980 pro nvme and adding a xpg gammix s70 2 tb gen 4x4 and idk what to go with but I want the correct read write
@NikosRentas
2 жыл бұрын
Can you explain further what you mean? What is your workflow and what are you trying to achieve?
@johnbrackettii9468
2 жыл бұрын
@@NikosRentas I'm mostly a gamer with a little content creation as well. Whenever I first started I wished I would Have bought 1 5 tb gen 4 drive but anyway I need the storage of all 3 drives
@NikosRentas
2 жыл бұрын
If you are mainly gaming you don't have to stress too much much about the speed as long as they are running close to equivalent. I have some videos talking about the caching issues with the 980 pro 1tb and had suggested the SN850 as there are no issues with those. Apparently there was a firmware release earlier in the year that has fixed it but some still have issues. I almost bought a 980 pro 2 tb since it was on sale by 60 bucks however, some people wanted me to test the Firecude 530 so I bit the bullet ad spent 100 bucks more to test it lol. The Firecuda 530 has similar specs for read and write to the XPG you are thinking to buy. Its is a much faster drive and more write capable however, I don't think the average person needs that though. If you look at the idea behind each use case (I am assuming your main use case will use this for storage for the games?) the question you have to ask does it really need to be super fast. In my opinion it is a law of diminishing returns and you only see a 1-2 second load time difference with ssd's from other type drives. So you wouldn't see that much of a difference between a XPG s70 2 tb and the 980 pro 2tb. I would definitely test these drives when you get them and make sure to buy them from somewhere you can return them.
@johnbrackettii9468
2 жыл бұрын
@@NikosRentas I just recently got into pc gaming and spent way to much on nvme but for now I just took 1 of the 980s out and kept the one with windows in and popped the 2tb drive in initial it and put it into top slot so I can just put the other in when I want. I have 2 gaming rigs and need to stream the games from on rig to another instead of downloading everything on both
@NikosRentas
2 жыл бұрын
@@johnbrackettii9468 Ah I got yeah. Makes sense now. I don't play games as much anymore. My nephews tell me their crazy setups they are planning and we brainstorm bottlenecks lol
@jesseomollo9405
2 жыл бұрын
I have an old hp 3500mt pro motherboard...will this work on it?
@NikosRentas
2 жыл бұрын
Looks like it only has one 16x slot. You need to find a 4x slot from what I see. Check your specs on the motherboard and confirm before buying. You won't be able to get a gen 4 in there either way. So gen 3 are good value for the price
@jeffrisong
2 жыл бұрын
Can I still use GPU at the same time after adding this adapters?
@NikosRentas
2 жыл бұрын
You shouldn't have an issue or conflict. People usually place the video card on the first slot and this adapter on the second slot
@NicholasNicolaides
2 жыл бұрын
I just bought one for $13.
@NikosRentas
2 жыл бұрын
Nice!
@NicholasNicolaides
2 жыл бұрын
@@NikosRentas Yasoo Nikos, I now did a big mistake and accidentally uninstalled the 970 evo plus driver controller and now Windows 7 does not boot. Bsod error 0000007b.
@NikosRentas
2 жыл бұрын
@@NicholasNicolaides Ela megale. That's not good. You would want to run the recovery and see if it reinstalls it. If you have a previous point saved that would work well too. If all else fails, I would plug it into an external drive, copy everything over and reinstall windows on it. This might help:support.microsoft.com/en-us/topic/you-receive-error-stop-error-code-0x0000007b-inaccessible-boot-device-after-you-install-windows-updates-7cc844e4-4daf-a71c-cd23-f99b50d53e31
@EricTheBroBean
2 жыл бұрын
I regret building my first gaming pc in 20 years. Ive had more troubles in one year than ive had joy in my worthless life. I spent up all my money almost every month just in maintenance and having to buy new parts because everything i buy is defect. I want to use my gpu in 16x but i cant because i have a mongoloid m2 nvme ssd that forces my gpu to run at 4x even during max load. if anyone wants to help me im gonna be your personal slave for life.
@NikosRentas
2 жыл бұрын
Don't be so hard on yourself bro. What are your specs on your pc?
@tigerbalm666
2 жыл бұрын
Makes NO SENSE to spend more than $10 for a M.2 PCIe Adapter! ╭∩╮ᵔᴥᵔ╭∩╮
@NikosRentas
2 жыл бұрын
Depends on what the need is and the system one has. I have seen issues with the cheaper ones and often is the case that they come from the same factory which makes you question things a lot lol.
@TheStevengauna
Жыл бұрын
You can do this but you cant do that. You can do that but you cant do this. If you try this it not going to work with that...talk talk talk and you lost me 5 minutes into your video. For love 9f god just get to the point.
@RJ-cu4cj
10 ай бұрын
Interesting video but very disappointed you do not reply to any of the comments or questions here. Too bad, I'm moving on to someone else.
@NikosRentas
9 ай бұрын
Doing my best to keep up with all the comments. I understand though.
@ZaydDepaor
3 ай бұрын
Don't worry about M.2 expansion cards/heat sinks looking pretty bro LOL.😂If society has reached a stage where people are judged on how pretty/ugly their computer expansion cards are, we really have hit rock bottom.😐
@flarbow233
11 ай бұрын
so if I already have 2 m.2 nvme installed on my x570 and if I were to buy the asus 4.0 pcie adapter, take out the 2 nvme I have installed and put those 2 in the pcie expansion + 2 more nvme will I lose any lanes to my GPU? I'm desperate for more memory but don't want to bottleneck my GPU. would it help if I did what I stated in this comment then set it to raid?
@NikosRentas
9 ай бұрын
Not sure if you figure this out but its based on the PCIe Lanes. Most likely they are not directly to CPU so you wouldn't lose the speed for the card. That being said, if you test your card on both slots you will see that you are not losing that much overall as the cards from that generation are running gen 3 speeds.
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