I have the Shield Plus and an original Sig 365. Although the Sig is very well made and a marvelous combination of small size and adequate capacity, I'm probably not going to keep it because I just can't get a proper grip on it with my larger hands. The Shield Plus fits my hand perfectly. I've had no issues with loading either factory magazine. Great video guys!
@kylestaples465
Жыл бұрын
Go shoot a p365xl,it's a game changer
@heeebeeegeeebeee
Жыл бұрын
I bought a Shield Plus the week it came out. Bought 3 more 13 rounders as soon as they became available. Never had that problem with the mags, all 4 of my 13 rounders work great!
@kay-pea
Жыл бұрын
The spring is supposed to be guided into the bottom of the follower as the follower is pushed down. For some reason, the bottom of the follower is made with flat edges that cause the spring to catch up on it, instead of settling into place. I saw this in a youtube video, and I took out my follower and removed some material to give the bottom "legs" a bevel. I was able to load 13 at that point, although it is still tight.
@thekinginthenorth989
Жыл бұрын
Yes exactly this! I did the same. Keep spreading the info as I found no one really knowing what the issue is and it is a really easy fix.
@luckydl7650
Жыл бұрын
You are absolutely correct about the S&W plus 13 round shield magazines. S&W did send me new springs and followers and it seems to be such better. Hard to believe they're aren't more complaints about this issue.
@carolkmc2855
Жыл бұрын
I have the Plus Performance Center, which has the ported slides and barrel. The magazines improve with use. It is the finest handgun I have ever shot and that includes revolvers. I have been shooting for 40 years. Great video as always.
@jorgeenchilada
9 ай бұрын
Glad to hear it improves with use. Mine that I bought the other day failed to feed like 10 rounds.
@gabe_satx
8 ай бұрын
@@jorgeenchilada I came here for this exact issue. 2 fails in 200 rounds.
@hiramr1153
4 ай бұрын
Use to carry the Xmacro but now the shield plus 4” PC it’s the best all around and I don’t have to worry about rust like the Sig. S&W always give a great finish.
@raykennedy8498
Жыл бұрын
I have the Shield Plus, and have worked with it quite a bit at the range. I've had it approx. 8 months now, and when I first worked with the 13 round mag. I to found it very difficult to load the last two round. However, as I fired it a lot using to Lula mag reloaded, and forcing the #12&13 round into the mag. and leaving them loaded 24/7 they slowly began to ease-up, and are beginning to break in. It just takes time, and use, if you have a lot of each. When carrying it I now keep the 13 round magazine in the weapon (13 + 1), and carry the 10 round mag hoping I will never need it. Fantastic weapon.
@brianc1701
Жыл бұрын
KZitem creator, TheHumbleMarksman, had an issue with the mags for his S&W CSX. He took the mags apart and found that the spring was not placed into the follower correctly. He indicated the top end of the spring had a leg that was supposed to fit into a hole in the follower in order for the spring to have the correct length and function properly. With the spring installed into the follower hole, his problems went away. You might want to look at your magazines to see if there is a similar issue to the CSX. Just guessing here.
@geaugafirearmsacademy
Жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching and sharing
@mrgoodbar216
Жыл бұрын
I own boyh guns love em both I haven’t had that problem with my mags and i have 5 of them i can get 13 in all of them without a problem they were tight at first but i have more than 300 rounds through all 5. Maybe you got a bad batch who knows have you tried taking the spring out and compressing it?
@365xmacronocomp
8 ай бұрын
I got the p365 XL and the p365x macro non-comp version absolutely love them both the X macro has got 1850 rounds through it in the Excel has got 1730 rounds through no issue out of both of them absolutely love them but I have not even shot a shield so I guess I need to try it to see how it is I did shoot the regular p365 I rented it from my range and I was really accurate with it right off the rip I didn't use my 17 round mag in it so that could be a reason because I had extra grip but some people says it's too Snappy I did not feel that but I did have my 17-round mag in it
@Sirgromulus
Жыл бұрын
I own both of these and they, along with my Hellcat Pro, are my favorite CCW handguns. There are many Shield Plus owners who complain about the thirteen round magazines. I have four of these and they are definitely the hardest to load magazines in my collection. I have to use a Maglula to load rounds 12 and 13. I kept them fully loaded for several weeks and it helped a bit. I find the magazine spring seems to have a "glitch" between rounds 12 and 13. On another note, Neil reminds me of The Honest Outlaw with a shorter beard!
@geaugafirearmsacademy
Жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching
@dougt5357
Жыл бұрын
@@geaugafirearmsacademy See my response about modifying the follower in the magazines to fix the problem.
@athroop1321
Жыл бұрын
It's not a problem to load the 13th round if you smack the base against your palm a few times while loading. It seats the rounds properly.
@kafani12
Жыл бұрын
Just get a Glock lol
@thekinginthenorth989
Жыл бұрын
It's a known issue, Smith & Wesson has yet to acknowledge it. Although I do think they have seen the complaints and are starting to fix the issue behind the scenes, hence why some people have issues and others don't. There's a video on KZitem that shows how to fix the issue. It's a problem with the bottom part of the follower, it has a flat ledge that the spring gets caught on and doesn't allow the spring to fall into the groove on the follower. You have to shave the flat surface of the follower so that it's like a ramp so that the spring can slide down into the little slot in the follower. The spring is also a bit stiff from the factory. I did the "fix" and left my mags loaded for a month. I'm able to load the 13th round by hand now. I'm sure shooting the gun more will help with the spring being so tight also. Hopes this helps. I had to search around for answers. Still a great gun. I have the p365 as well but found the grip a bit small. The Shield Plus feels like a full size gun and the tiny bit of length and weight over the P365 makes a difference with felt recoil.
@damemitchell85
Жыл бұрын
I picked up a Shield Plus last week. No issues with loading mags.I have a Hellcat Pro as well. Both shoot flawlessly. My Hellcat Pro cane with four 15 + 1 mags compared to the Shield Plus 10 +1 and 13 + 1.
@RanTausi
11 ай бұрын
@damemitchell85 Hi, I am in a dilemma , I have bought the Shield Plus but not yet received it, should I change it for the Hellcat Pro ? Thanks , as you have both I like to know from your knowledge
@DarlingEbony
Жыл бұрын
When I first got my Shield Plus, I put 13 rounds of FMJ in 13-rd mag and let it sit for about a day or two. Since then, I have had no problem loading those mags. I have both guns, but like my Shield Plus better than my p365XL.
@Elvis68spec
Жыл бұрын
Excellent video! I carry the M&P Shield Plus, Three Inch version and I've experienced difficulty loading the 13rd Mags as well, but not to the degree of difficulty you have. I've broken them in and they run just fine! 🇺🇸😎👍
@geaugafirearmsacademy
Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the info!
@mhmt1453
Жыл бұрын
I thought it was just me. I bought my Shield Plus two weeks after the launch. I’ve been carrying a 1.0 for a long time, and I liked the concept of the Plus. I couldn’t get that last round in even with a Magpul loader. I have since bought four more of each (10rd and 13rd), and most of those did load the full capacity. But to this day, that first mag only has 12 in it. Other than that, I’m completely happy with it. I’ve been carrying it religiously since I bought it, and not one person has ever noticed-yet there’s 11 (I keep the flush mag in it) 9mm commie kisses on my person at all times!
@geaugafirearmsacademy
Жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching and sharing your experience with it
@charlesj.6563
Жыл бұрын
I have M2.0 Shields in 45 Auto & 40 S&W and more than one 9mm Shield Plus. All but one of the various Shields are the 4” models which is my preferred configuration. The Shields are my favorite carry pistols. I have several of the 13 round Shield Plus magazines. Using an Uplula loader, with some effort I can load them to capacity. However, when loaded to capacity with 13 rounds it is very difficult to seat the magazines when the slide is closed. If you do seat the magazine, there is a lot of pressure on the slide which can cause malfunctions. Obviously, you can easily seat the 13 round magazine when the slide is open. If you chamber a round then top off the magazine to it’s 13 round capacity, it is again very difficult to seat the magazine and if you do the pistol will not operate reliably due to pressure on the slide. Essentially, this pistol should be considered a 12 +1, not a 13 + 1. The flush fit 10 round magazines do not seem to suffer from this problem.
@cheeng1
7 ай бұрын
I had to use the Uplula loader for my 10 & 13 rd mags for the first couple months, but once the springs break in I can do it by hand now to full capacity.
@carson2646
Жыл бұрын
I have the standard Shield plus and I love it. I haven't had any trouble loading the mags. I also have the original shield that I still really like but the plus is a major improvement
@geaugafirearmsacademy
Жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching
@danclas5983
Жыл бұрын
Same here. My biggest complaint between the two is, it's been hard to sideline my old friend after carrying it since they first came out. Love them both though.
@son_of_guns
Жыл бұрын
Shield plus all day, I had some trouble with my factory 13rd mag, but after a bit it decided to cooperate, trying different rounds helped too, Winchester and Hornady seem to work with the mag and give good performance
@geaugafirearmsacademy
Жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching and sharing
@simplerick256
Жыл бұрын
My plus Performance Center won't run Winchester rounds🤔. Hornady runs just fine tho
@resolute123
Жыл бұрын
Get the 15rd mag for the Shield. Greatly improve the performance because it feels like a full size pistol (oh, and the extra 2rds are nice too).
@geaugafirearmsacademy
Жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing
@SeanNormandy
Жыл бұрын
I purchased the 9mm 3" M&P Shield Plus, this last summer, and the 13 round mag would not accept all 13 rounds without forcing the last round with a load assist that I purchased on Amazon. Once the mag was "fully" loaded, it would not insert all the way with the slide closed. I purchased an identical mag from Magshack, and carry both mags with 12 rounds only, since the neither mag nor the pistol function properly with 13 rounds in the mag. I really do love this pistol though, so I'm content with carrying 12 +1 and a spare mag loaded with 12. However, there is a definite issue with the claim of these being 13 round mags.
@whatsup24_7
Жыл бұрын
I have the Shield Plus and the P365X. I like both but I definitely favor the P365X. Lately I've been carrying the newly released IWI Masada Slim. 13+1(flush mag) and right around the size of these other two. It feels so good in my hand, less recoil than both, and with over 850 rounds thru it of many different ammunition it's never malfunctioned.
@geaugafirearmsacademy
Жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing your experience with it!
@whatsup24_7
Жыл бұрын
Forgot to mention that the Masada Slim has a excellent trigger. It's flat, very smooth, very short reset and sub 5lb pull.
@Craig5926
Жыл бұрын
Definitely interested in that Masada slim
@Alucard373
Жыл бұрын
I've been looking hard at the Masada Slim for my next carry gun. Would you take it over the alternatives? I'm a trigger snob, too, is it way better than the others as well?
@whatsup24_7
Жыл бұрын
@@Alucard373 In my opinion it's better than all of the other micro 9's. There's no mush, creep, or grit. Very defined wall and crisp break. I've been carrying it for the last 6-8 weeks. Absolutely love it. I got my holster from ANR Design which is solid too.
@DaveNoble-gg4ck
Жыл бұрын
I also had the same problem loading the 13 mag. I too contacted S&W they said a spring issue and sent new springs. Today I found a KZitem video from. Sack's Garage addressing the issue and a modification to the orange follower that seems to work. I haven't tried the mod yet myself, but thought you'd be interested.
@tclaw1406
Жыл бұрын
I have the same problem as you. 12 is all I can get into the mag. That’s better than 7 or 8, but it’s suppose to hold 13.
@1001Hobbies
Жыл бұрын
Magguts +2 kit makes the 12 round mags into 14 round mags of my P365XL without even adding 1/8 inch to the length of the grip, and they are 100% reliable. Having 15 rounds in the gun inspires confidence, should it be needed.
@settleschris1965
Жыл бұрын
Another great video! XL with a few mods is my choice.
@geaugafirearmsacademy
Жыл бұрын
Good choice!
@michaelschaffer9165
Жыл бұрын
My Shield Plus has given me 100% reliablebility with all magazines and with all ammo. The Magguts magazines are 100% too. I've shot all of them through 6 cycles. No stoppages at all. The Shield Plus rocks.
@hiya_how_areya6436
Жыл бұрын
The magazine is an issue with some followers the bottom of them jam on a coil of the spring instead of sliding over it. There is a video here on YT that shows the issue and a fix.
@timpierce9450
Жыл бұрын
I bought the hellcat because of capacity. I have trouble with dropping the mags and pinching my hand on the reload. It is very snappy. M&P came to Buds and had the plus performance center model with 4”barrel for about $100 off. The rep talked me out of the posted barrel on a carry gun because it coats the optics and is hard to clean. I love it. I can reach the mag release better than any other gun I have. I do still occasionally pinch my hand with a reload so more practice needed there. I would trade my hellcat and wasp for another performance center M&P any day.
@rtwatkins79
Жыл бұрын
maybe a little late regarding this... but I was having loading issues on both my 13 & 10 round mags out of the box. Both of mine were VERY tight on the last couple rounds. It took using a speed loader... got a "POP" and now I've been able to load fine by hand since. I've taken the mags apart and don't see anything broken, but ya... first loads REQUIRED the use of a loader until it popped lol
@555Ajh
Жыл бұрын
My wife is a big fan of the 365sas. I'm a fan of the 364x, lol I'm working on getting one . I've had a problem with my Taurus and my Glock when it comes to the mag capacity. After a few range trips they worked it out and now full capacity.
Mag Guts makes a spring conversion kit for the 13rd magazine, taking it to 15rds. You might want to check it out.
@geaugafirearmsacademy
Жыл бұрын
I will thanks
@nelhead4807
Жыл бұрын
I had the same problem with my 13 round mags. So I took a pencil and worked the spring for about 30 minutes and broke them in. Now they will take 13 rounds no problem when before I could not hardly get 12 in them.
@geaugafirearmsacademy
Жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing
@bradhertzler4451
Жыл бұрын
S&W mags definitely have strong springs that need to be worked and broken in.
@v.german11b
Жыл бұрын
Great assessment 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼 I love both handguns, they perform well, they are reliable, and both are easy to conceal carry. But, IF I were pressed to choose one, mmm... my personal preference is the *Canik TP9 Elite SC* 😎
@steemerxaxon1643
3 ай бұрын
I carried the Standard Shield for about 6 year....(.40 cal) & NEVER had the first Hiccup with it & Loved it
@tshep2az
Жыл бұрын
You will like the shield + even more now because it is compatible with the sw ez 15rd mag
@Texan-vh8xm
Жыл бұрын
I bought my plus last week, and it was impossible to load the last two rounds without a maglula. They have gotten a lot more easy to load with being fully loaded over the past week. However, the fully loaded mag has a lot of push out against the frame. I see that this will perform fine, but it is rough, initially.
@matts.4095
Жыл бұрын
Mine was the same way ad for nine months and I can finally do all 13 rounds by hand a lot easier. Mine came with four magazines 13 rounds and 110 round magazine so the magazine gets better over time.
@thomasfox8027
Жыл бұрын
Yup. Couldn't load my 13 rd mags without the maglula uplula. Friggin impossible. That said, I love the gun. I also own the 365XL and love that too. Only change I made to the 365XL is I put new baseplates on the mags so my whole pinky would fit on the grip. Great video!
@Renaldo135
Жыл бұрын
Love my P365 and thought of getting the XL but can't justify it really. As for Vedder they make some of the best holsters both OWB and IWB out there. Love those guys. Thanks guys. The UPLULU MAG LULA is what you were going to say. They are great too.
@Gundoc19
Жыл бұрын
Just FYI, you can get the 356xl grip module and use it with your 365. I have been running mine that way for a while.
@michaelschaffer9165
Жыл бұрын
I like the 365 too however the XL is much more shootable. I'm impressed with the XLs accuracy and it's not as snappy as the shorter model.
@Renaldo135
Жыл бұрын
@@Gundoc19 i did not know that! Thank You Darrell.
@il357
Жыл бұрын
I have two Shield Plus mags were I could only get 11 rds in even using an Uplulu. I saw another KZitem video which showed the problem which is the spring gets lodged on the square edges of the follower. The video person used a Dremel (if I recall correctly) but I used sandpaper to round over the flat edges. It worked. I now get 13 rds in two of my mags and 12 in the last one. I think that one still needs some work. I probably could force the 13th round but I didn't want to push my luck.
@youngspectre5356
Жыл бұрын
Such a relevant video for me. Main EDC: SIG P365X Backup EDC: S&W Shield Plus
@geaugafirearmsacademy
Жыл бұрын
Nice
@MRLUGNUTS
Жыл бұрын
Excellent review.. wish I saw this a day ago... before I went to the blaster store, I would have bought the shield plus along with the M&P 9c .. looks like I'm going back. ☺️
@cashmoney9256
Жыл бұрын
Shield Plus owner. I have 5 of the 13 round mags which are all tight. I use the Maglula. Never had a mag blow out. It helps if you leave them loaded but yea I don’t even try to load 13 by hand. The Magguts +3 that goes on the 10 round loads easier for me and I can fully load by hand. I have the 3.1 OR version. 1800 rounds with zero malfunctions. Tempted to upgrade to performance center model.
@Mike-cu6gk
13 күн бұрын
Thanks for the video. I own both the Shield plus and the 365xl so I’m not taking sides plus neither one pays my bills. With all that said I don’t like the Shield plus as much because I need to always use the 13 round mag to get a good grip and I really dislike that, so prefer the 365xl because I don’t hold on to the mag.
@markkelley4762
3 ай бұрын
I have the shield plus also phenomenal gun. Love it for the size and capacity. I bought 3 extra 13 round mags from S&W and have one that I can only get 12 rounds into it. It is so tight I am afraid of damaging the clip. The others are fine just that one. But as far as everything else top rate firearm for conceal carry, even went and got my wife one to carry.
@carlosnunezcabrera8072
Жыл бұрын
no problem at all with 13 round magazine !
@joquin4618
Жыл бұрын
I got the original shield 1.0 and added an apex trigger and magguts +2 extension giving me 10 rounds for an EDC. I’ve shot the p365XL and would like to get one, but just the thought of having to spend another$600 and a $100 in magazines and a holster makes me Rather just spend $on ammo and training with the handguns that I already have 😅!!
@ProudDadVet
Жыл бұрын
Of all the hand guns you've both tested/shot, which one or ones are your absolute favorites? Are there any that you could/would say is a must have for anyone that loves shooting?
@peters303
Жыл бұрын
As usual an objective comprehensive review. Have to say that the M&P reliability issues with those mags raises a few concerns.
@geaugafirearmsacademy
Жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing
@thekinginthenorth989
Жыл бұрын
It's an easy fix. There's a flat surface on the bottom of the follower that needs to be shaved down so that it's like a ramp, allowing the spring to slide down and compress into the slot in the bottom of the follower. They are fixing the issue behind the scenes hence why some people have trouble with their mags and others don't. Their customers support is great and often will send a new spring follower (the fixed version)
@heeebeeegeeebeee
Жыл бұрын
The grip size issue is exactly why I sold my Sig P365 XL and have been using a Shield Plus ever since. I could never get a proper grip on the XL because my hands are too big. The Plus is noticeably bigger and about as small as I’m willing to go.
@o4liberty
Жыл бұрын
I just picked up the new equalizer and ran into the same issue with my mags. Others are having failure to feed the last two rounds over the last few years Smith must of changed springs.
@daryienlee2237
Жыл бұрын
Good video! I really enjoyed the content and the malfunction drill. It’s something I haven’t practiced during my range time. I will moving forward, thanks for the tip!
@geaugafirearmsacademy
Жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching, glad you found it helpful.
@jeffd5113
Жыл бұрын
I love the trigger on the Shield Plus now. the plus is my edc for good, even during the winter (normally I move to my Beretta 92F for the winter). I converted my original Shield i put that in an MCK conversion kit and it's my home defense gun now
@geaugafirearmsacademy
Жыл бұрын
Good idea thanks for watching
@mikemartinez2057
6 ай бұрын
Had that same issue with my shield 40 mag super tight, the shield plus magazine is definitely better no issues so far!!
@heydoyourhomework
5 ай бұрын
Same experience with the S&W Equalizer that uses Shield Plus mags. The one that came with the gun would not allow 13 ads to be loaded. S&W 13 rounder mag bought separately worked fine but has a hard time seating.
@thedaffamily5020
2 ай бұрын
I have the shield plus on 9mm and I love the gun so far, I also have the same problem with the 13 round mag, the 13 feels like it’s pushing it but the bigger problem is that is hard to push the mag into the gun. Other than that the guns feels amazing in my hand. I also have the hellcat pro and I think I love the shield plus more.
@ronolson2024
Жыл бұрын
I have the PC S&W Shield Plus 4" ported barrel with fiber optic sights as well as the P365 & P365XL pistols and a few more 9 mm pistols as well & (2) 10 mm Pistols. Have shot each 9 mm pistol in competition and have also compared them shooting back to back (the only real way to compare I've found). Shoot 10 or so rounds, & then shoot the other pistol quickly. Then alternate again. Doing this can change your mind as it has mine. I've broken in both P365 triggers by polishing the striker assys. & sears. A significant improvement & both have a smooth pull weight of 4-1/2 lbs. while my Shield Plus is 4 to 4-1/4 lbs. straight from S&W. So, shooting 6" plates at 25 yards, I've found the Shield plus is more accurate. I believe it's because of the better trigger & slightly longer sight radius, and possibly the fiber optic sights. Also the Shield Plus is a slightly larger and heavier pistol. Ported barrel has less recoil than my P10C (My Shield Plus is almost as accurate as my 2nd Gen P10C with its' fantastic 3.5 lb. crisp trigger pull even better than the Shield Plus) I consider both my P365's as soft shooters and have shot them both in competitions and do quite nicely in them. I have reversed the mag releases on all my guns as mag changes are noticeably faster using your trigger finger to release the mag. Possibly due to my smaller hands & fingers. I did this specifically for the P365, but loved it so much I changed them all in the guns I could. Works better in full sized pistols as well. And Kim, you no longer pinch your hand using this method. Helps greatly in competition! Biggest problem is not only having to use a Uplula mag loader to load a full 13 rd. mag (I have (3) 13 round mags & they all load 13 rds. with the help of my Uplula loader) but when you insert it into gun (not easy to do in the Shield Plus) & then charge the pistol, it takes all my strength to pull the slide back. So start with the slide back to eliminate the problem. Inserting a full mag with the P365's is easy! Even when using the Magguts spring & follower to give you 14 rds. in the 12 rd. P365XL mag this is not a problem, & it's reliable too! So, the P365's are easier to use, easier to rack, easier to use the slide release (I use my left thumb in competition), slightly easier to carry (much easier with the P365), & have better day/night sights. The Shield Plus 4" ported barrel has less recoil, better trigger for better accuracy, better power than the 3.7" XL's barrel (it's noticeable when hitting steel targets!) The slide is much harder to rack even without have a full mag, & not as easy to use the slide release. If you don't have muscle and don't practice, stay away from the Shield Plus. No guns I have are reliable, as I've had to send them ALL BACK to the factory (some after a few thousand rounds, some after a few hundred, 1 after 50 rds.). So, if I could only have 1 pistol, it would be the P365, (not the P365XL-too big & heavy) and nothing else. But I carry the Shield Plus when I carry at the 3-4 O'clock position with the 10 rd. mag for printing as I shoot OK with only 1/3rd of my pinky on the grip. I love them all & all are great guns. Would like to see a comparison of the Shield Plus 4" ported barrel vs. a non-ported barrel, both in velocity & felt recoil. Enjoyed your video. Have a Merry Christmas!
@danclas5983
Жыл бұрын
Hey Neil, grab some of the 15 rounders. Their not that much longer than the 13's, not enough to bother me anyways. But I don't even bother with the flush mags on a sub compact. They are a last ditch option for me. Having larger hands I can't stand not having a full grip on what's generally a little snappier platform.
@geaugafirearmsacademy
Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the suggestion!
@michaelschaffer9165
Жыл бұрын
I had trouble getting 13 in my mags too. The one that came with the gun held 13 but mags I bought later only took 12. Complained to Smith about them so they sent 2 replacements which also only took 12. One day I was messing with them again using my Uplula loader and pushed down really hard something went pop inside the mag and it took another round. Did that to the rest now I have 13 round magazines.
@Sirgromulus
Жыл бұрын
I had the magazine "pop" as well on my 13 round magazines, typically between rounds 12 and 13. I assume an issue with the springs. I still have to use my Maglula to load them and sometimes the fully loaded magazine is very hard to insert and load a round. No other issues otherwise.
@JasonNortwich
Жыл бұрын
excellent and informative video! thank you for making this.
@geaugafirearmsacademy
Жыл бұрын
Glad it was helpful!
@charleswtuggle
Жыл бұрын
I have both the Shield Plus Optics ready short barrel and the Sig XL. The Shield Plus has a great trigger, but it has more felt recoil then the Sig XL. I carry the Sig XL and the shield plus is just a range gun, so I never load it to capacity. I have 5 mags for it that came that way. I guess S&W wanted to get rid of those bad mags and put them in a package deal.
@danmckeon6221
Жыл бұрын
Great team review! keep up the Awesome work!
@mikes1097
Жыл бұрын
Try looking into Mag Guts - they sell replacement springs that will increase your factory capacity to either +2 for the 13 rounder to make it 15 total or +3 for the 10 round to make it a total of 13. I have them in my Ruger LC9s Pro and love them
@geaugafirearmsacademy
Жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching
@toddschutter6535
Жыл бұрын
Load those mags up and let them sit for a week or so. They'll loosen up. Mine did.
@edbarwick7897
Жыл бұрын
I found and purchased an oh so slightly used optic ready version on the Shield. I initially had the same problem with my 13 rounders, however using my mag loader I was able to load 13. Kept them loaded for a week or so and now can load all 13 by hand. I haven't experienced a malfunction of any kind and it's become my EDC.
@geaugafirearmsacademy
Жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching and sharing your experience with it
@cmt1809
6 ай бұрын
I own a Shield Plus 4 inch PC also, no issues with the mags.
@bradhertzler4451
Жыл бұрын
I have a Shield 2.0 in 40. I load my mags, leave them loaded for a day or two, then unload them for a day or two. I also sprayed the sprayed the springs with graphite. Within a week, I could full load them, being able to get 4 rounds in the 6 round mag originally. I've only ever had one malfunction in 6 months of use and I think that was the slide didn't fly close on a full magazine. Also, Eclipse Holdters, Veteran owned and operated, has a holster for the 4" slide. Being that it's a 40, I wanted the extra weight to help manage recoil.
@geaugafirearmsacademy
Жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching and sharing
@goldenu2
6 ай бұрын
The issues you ran into were a huge surprise for me. I've got the Performance Center ported model and while the mags are hard to load, I have had zero other issues in the roughly 400 rounds I've put the gun through. Thusfar is's all been either NATO ball ammo or Hornady Critical Defense, both of whih pack some power, so perhaps that's the difference? I know a new gun can be quite tight.
@chric2830
Жыл бұрын
I originally purchased sig 365 and then m&p shield plus when it came out. I prefer shield plus due to bigger grip, less snap and the trigger. Also had problem with loading 13 in shield plus so just settled for 12 😢
@geaugafirearmsacademy
Жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching and sharing
@BrandensOutdoorChannel
Жыл бұрын
i saw you guys pass by at SHOT show. The Shield Plus with new 15 round mags for backup is awesome. Brings it up to Glock 19/Hellcat capacity. My 4" shield plus has a Holosun EPS Carry optic on it. The 13 round mags need to be broken in.
@saa6751
10 ай бұрын
I have 2 shield plus guns. Out of the four magazines 1 of the 10 round will only load 9 and 1 of the 13 round mag will only load 12. I have after 800 rounds now been able to load 13 with a maglula but not by hand. I don't carry the 10 round mag and no matter how much I shoot it at the range it only will allow 9 rds. S&W's quality control has declined imo over the years. My only experience with their customer service was with my S&W model 41 and was NOT AT ALL positive, so I choose not to deal with Smith & Wesson's customer service and suffer with the reduced capacity of the 10. NO GUN SHOULD LEAVE THE FACTORY WITH THESE MAGAZINE ISSUES. By the way, I loved your review, very informative. Also, I like your 4" barrel, looks less snappy than mine.
@randykinison9869
Жыл бұрын
I got the m&p they got 15 round magazine out now I got 5 they work good 15 rounds no problem
@russprescott6657
Жыл бұрын
My new shield plus also won’t take 11 in my 13 round magazine . I used the maglua to help, didn’t work. I could only get 12 rounds. It also takes a lot of pressure to set the magazine in gun. The appears to be gapped between handle & magazine, en with 11 rounds
@onpsxmember
Жыл бұрын
Helpful comparison and good structure. Advertising more capacity than what is reliable usable is spreading. I've seen mags bulging, feed lips bent just cause companies have to advertise like this. Let's say the base just gets fractured, it gets cold and it breaks in the worst possible moment. Seat & tug.
@geaugafirearmsacademy
Жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching and sharing
@nickluzzi8767
Жыл бұрын
One of your better reviews. I'm not in the market for a new gun , I have the 365xl for now . Thanks and Merry christmas
@geaugafirearmsacademy
Жыл бұрын
Thank you! Merry Christmas
@timmahnesmith1582
Жыл бұрын
Just bought the Shield plus 3/15/23, and have the same issue with the 13 round mag. No way in hell 13 rounds are going in mine.
@robertcarey4833
7 ай бұрын
Same problem with 3 of my 13 round mags.
@zovaynezovanyari5442
Жыл бұрын
Mag- mine will take 13 rounds, but damn! When I have 13 in, the mag is hard to insert all the way. So I carry with 12+1. Still love the gun. My edc.
@matthewblumenthal804
Жыл бұрын
I have a 365XL with a Wilson combat grip model. First time I shot it after the replacement the magazine fell to the ground. I now slam it in hard and all is good.
@squidly2112
Жыл бұрын
I really like my standard 365 .. so nice and compact. Depending upon my carry requirements at the time, I'm either carrying P365 or P320RXP
@cin426
Жыл бұрын
Slide finish is top notch with the Smiths, and half assed with the Sigs.
@vensheaalara
Жыл бұрын
The p 365 is a great completion on a design. It's far from the the first compact gun to carry 10+1 though. Hell, Keltec made the P-11 in 1995, that's 22 years! Still, the combination of features has me considering the .380 365 for my wife.
@charlesfletcher5573
7 ай бұрын
Got my shield plus may 2023 with the 10 and 13 round magazine and my 13 is impossible to load
@Bar1putt
Жыл бұрын
Thanks for another great video! I own and carry both! They are great! Merry Christmas to you and your family! The deep freeze is supposed to hit us NE Ohioans for Christmas weekend so stay warm!
@geaugafirearmsacademy
Жыл бұрын
Merry Christmas to you and yours!
@Bar1putt
Жыл бұрын
@@geaugafirearmsacademy Thanks! By the way I haven’t had any issues with the Shield Plus mags but I do use a mag loader. My 68 year old hands appreciate it!
@d.b.cooper5096
11 ай бұрын
They make the mags different now because i just bought one and had no problems with the mags
@disturbedmaynard3873
Жыл бұрын
I am with Kim, I ended up with the 365XL. I don't own any M&P stuff, but am looking at the Shield Metal.
@chillios2222
9 ай бұрын
Was fine with 7 or 8, 12 is perfectly fine,I’ll stay with the 12
@simplerick256
Жыл бұрын
Yes sir, I bought 2 extra 13 rnd mags and they all are tight
@timk.5625
Жыл бұрын
Do y’all think a flat magazine spring would work better ? I have seen them in 1911 magazines I think it was.
@Rnemhrd
Жыл бұрын
Shield plus is a huge improvement over past M&P shields. I got a original P365. Since have gone to the Glock 43, 43x and 48. Now all these new guns are available. I had the Sig p365 OG issues and had a P320. I would never buy another Sig. I handled a M&P Shield plus. I had a Shield 9 and a bunch of other M&Ps. The Plus seemed smoother and the new trigger is great. If I wasn't so invested in my Glocks I would get it. Glocks are just so simple mechanically I went that way. As far as the 4" I prefer my 48 over my 43x. Had issues with my shield mag springs in my shield 9. They replaced them a couple times. Bent at the coils size change.
@joewodon4338
Жыл бұрын
I have the same problem with my 13 round shield magazines. If I managed to load 13 rounds with the help of a loader, the magazine wouldn’t lock unless it was forced. When I complained to Smith & Wesson enough they finally sent 2 new springs and followers. I changed them out but there was no difference in the difficulty in loading 13 rounds. I believe the problem lies with the design of the follower not allowing the spring to seat properly. Until something is corrected with the mag I’ll only load 12 rounds the be certain there’s not a possibility of a malfunction.
@cbretz2578
Жыл бұрын
Take apart the worst mag and the best mag, and compare them. See if you can determine exactly what is causing the loading issue. If you do decide to do that, keep us posted or make a video of the findings.
@geaugafirearmsacademy
Жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing
@ctusser
Жыл бұрын
The recoil of the Shield had significantly more muzzle flip for Kim than the P365XL did.
@DavidBurksgeneralprofilepublic
Жыл бұрын
I had these loading problem also. Had to have a big friend FORCE the cartridge in magazine and leave it for a couple days before it would work. Even tried the magpul loader and couldn't hey it to work. I did eventually get 13 in the mag.
@knottymullet4725
7 ай бұрын
It’s cause it’s band new and u want ur springs stronger better for ejection and won’t jam it get better over time just needs to be breaked in
@matts.4095
Жыл бұрын
I have the shield plus I put at least 1400 rounds through it. I got the I can’t remember certain pack that came with 4 13 round magazines, and 1 10 round magazine all of the 13 round magazines were very very tight. I had to use a speed loader on the last two. Now, after lots of rounds and had for like nine months, I can do all 13 by hand, so mine finally broke in. Also, what helped in the beginning I fully loaded all of the magazines and let them sit for a few weeks and then when I unloaded and reloaded it was a little easier.
@ron8566
Жыл бұрын
How many rounds have you loaded into the stiff mags? I had the same issue with a Canik. It took probably several hundred rounds before the 18 and 20 round mags could be loaded to full capacity.
@followingourdreams
Жыл бұрын
I recently purchased the Shield Plus and had the same mag issue. I purchased a reloader and was able to load the 13th round. I too, feel like the mag might fail. Has S&W come up with a solution?
@rickcole2301
Жыл бұрын
I bought the bug out bag when it came out with it. It's got the small 3.1 barrel and I've got all 13 in my magazines. They gave me three extra magazines with it bug out kit and I haven't tried it yet but I had no trouble getting them in. It was a little tight but I I used to up Lula loader and it was tight but it wasn't. I could get it in without too much trouble. I mean it was a little tighter but I got it done. Get her done but I don't know when you got yours and when I got mine I didn't get mine till they came out with the bug out kit and yet it's all I have to say about that. Y'all have a good day. Be safe
@kagekade
Жыл бұрын
Phlster holsters makes a 4" model holster and it's amazing
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