This series singlehandedly defined my love for the F-14. I didn't even watch topgun till years later
@markplott4820
4 жыл бұрын
actually the F-14 is Larger than the VF-1 Valkrie fighter , is more like the size of a F/A-18 but with Swept wings. you can actually see this play out on Mazross Zero as F-14 vs the Anti UN SV-51 Stormvogel.
@bombomos
4 жыл бұрын
@@markplott4820 I know, it's not double seated either. Also the engines are apart like the F-14. But the F-18 wasn't a concept when Macross was made.
@barrybend7189
3 жыл бұрын
@@markplott4820 in the behind the scenes Shoji Kowamori stated he based the VF-1 Valkyrie on the F-14. Fun fact its also canon as the VF-0 of Macross 0 is designed by a design team from Northrop Grumman.
@topshonuff
3 жыл бұрын
Talk to me Goose
@mandoadedhawerdaverda5966
2 жыл бұрын
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@danielm6049
3 жыл бұрын
Yeah... I first saw Macross (robotech) when I was in highschool and happened across the complete first part "Rick". I think I had come to the conclusion by episode 5 that I liked Lisa much more than Minmay. I even remember getting frustrated with Rick for treating Lisa the way he did.
@laurab5033
4 жыл бұрын
Really enjoy your reviews of the series that meant a lot too me growing up. Especially because I first saw it on VHS, I worry that some of the wonder is lost when you aren't living in a sheltered small town.
@Mithrilion
3 жыл бұрын
I grew up with Robotech - I worship it and its story to this day for reasons of nostalgia. Then growing up and gaining access to the wider world I discovered the origins of it all - Macross. I love the Roster of characters each version brings - from the jumbled mess that was the Robotech "Trilogy" - to "Do you remember love" and then Macross Plus! I love the world of Macross (although I love the designs of the mecha... yeah the Idol stuff got WAAY out of hand...way out of hand... like... damn. Love the look of the Messiah.. but cannot stand the anime as a whole. I love the concepts of culture clash being the drive of the songs sung during war. But that was it! Let the song plot point fizzle there... not let it overtake the whole damn thing >< Anyway, Thank you for this vid Mate.
@bluemantom77
3 жыл бұрын
I grew up with this in the eighties
@FiauraTheTankGirlGamer
3 жыл бұрын
Battletech Fan Reply: "Harmony Gold has permanently stained this series to the point I won't watch it."
@scifinut6155
4 жыл бұрын
2:52 no statement has ever been more true
@DangerousFat
4 жыл бұрын
I just discovered your channel, but if you haven't seen EXO Squad, you absolutely need to.
@zudahkai94
4 жыл бұрын
Harmony gold: copyright strike inbound
@gregkun1
4 жыл бұрын
Harmony Gold Lost their copyright license agreement by court order. For not doing nothing for 30 years with the Robotech franchise. Thus the reason why we couldn't have all the other Macross animes. In japan when Macross was being made. Three companies were involved in the making of it. Handling three different aspects of the franchise. Then there was a fall between all 3 of them for who owns what of the franchise. Needless to say, it was messy, and the company that got the rights to the OG Macross were scumbags. So the original company started over with different Macross Anime shows. With their own stories without implying back to OG series because of that scumbag company ownership of the of OG Macross.
@larquefausse3623
4 жыл бұрын
@@gregkun1 : From what I understand it was a Japanese court that said that HG no longer has the rights, however, in during a California court hearing it was made public that the HG has the rights outside of Japan until March 2021. Supposedly that license was extended according to HG spokespersons, but know how shady their practices have been, it's really questionable whether they really do.
@EvillBob
4 жыл бұрын
Battletech squad here: let them come. We've fought them for decades and we'll fight them again.
@Blueoriontiger
4 жыл бұрын
@@gregkun1 can you provide a cited source for that? Last what I heard is what Larque said; they have to give it up in March 2021, but applied to extend it again.
@thepbg8453
4 жыл бұрын
In regards to the Battletech issue in 2018 Harmony Gold's case against Battletech was dismissed on grounds of predijuice. They attempted to sue Hairbrained Schemes over the use of Marauders and Warhammers in their game, but unlike owners of the Battletech Ip who have taken a 'concede till they go away approach' Hairbrained Schemes fought them in the courts and won, leading to the whole case being dropped. Apparently in the use of images as demonstration of ownership Harmony Gold tried to use mechs such as Atlas's as evidence. Needless to say that was quickly called out. For those who do not know, Atlas's are very much a Battletech mech with no prior connection to any Anime.
@lionheart1013
4 жыл бұрын
Honestly 99% of my negatives with Robotech is due to its owner Harmony Gold being massive massive A-holes and desperately holding onto the IP by any and all means. this is why little to no Macross was released here in the states and most have to be pirated. if your wonder what the 1% is its just simple "Make it a Kids show" shtick while its a bummer it didn't completely destroy/murder the series (Unlike Tekkaman Blade!) Though Macross has been on a steep decline lately being more about the pop idols than about being a space opera :( But I enjoy/love both series in their own way .....Speaking of Decline....Im sad mecha anime series have been on the decline sense the 2010's and its been kinda getting worse over the years, though sadly understand why mecha is a hard genre to animate and its a very niche genre.
@andrejg4136
4 жыл бұрын
To Macross: I think it's the studios leaning in too hard on the Music part of the Music/Mecha mix, and it rubs long-term Macross and mecha fans wrong. To Mecha in general: The whole mecha market is just in an ebbing state unless you're an established IP. It happens with every genre until something comes along and sparks the fandom and the band-wagoners again.
@MaxHDAvenger
4 жыл бұрын
I dunno about Macross in Japan right now and Gundam is still kicking but its a bummer the rest of Mecha genre is a hit or miss. Its worse for Super Robot anime series since Gurren lagann and not alot of them as of late and it didn't help the Getter Robo anime went dead ever since New Getter Robo and its author has long since passed away.
@lordlycius
4 жыл бұрын
Agreed... Macross Delta seems more like a wannabe K-ON / Magical Girl Hybrid then a sincere attempt at continuing on with the second most important Mecha anime IP of all time... Music has always been important to Macross, but the Delta series got Drowned by it...
@MaxHDAvenger
4 жыл бұрын
One problem with making Mecha anime "for kids" is the type of genre of Mecha anime and sadly Real Robot anime "for kid" really requires a serious brainstorming ideas since Real Robot (which Macross and Gundam part of) is anything but "kid friendly" especially if you remember realism as far literature genres are concerned since every single Real Robot rarely had a Good ending where everyone survives which unfortunately most of the time its usually a bittersweet ending which sometimes the Main characters get killed off. Super robot is the most likely ideal "for kids" but unfortunately theres not alot of them as of late and worse some of them are probably more towards Shounen rather for younger audiences.
@sponge260
3 жыл бұрын
Macross is available legally on HIDIVE. Does kinda suck that there isn't really any physical release but at least it doesn't have to be pirated now
@FugueState1
4 жыл бұрын
I was ten years old when this aired on TV. You are absolutely right that kids at the time were completely blown away by what we saw. There was nothing else like it.
@mainstreetsaint36
3 жыл бұрын
Plus it was brave enough to have characters die. You didn't see that a lot (or at all) in American animation or the early dubbing of anime. Just look at Voltron.
@schrodingersgat4344
3 жыл бұрын
Rick Hunter clicking the trigger on his (empty) gunpod; eyes full of shock and fear. One of my earliest memories ,and it was so much more serious than anything else on TV.
@venomouslizards
4 жыл бұрын
Man, I adore the original SDF Macross, it’s a shame that Harmony Gold has screwed over the entire series.
@MaxHDAvenger
4 жыл бұрын
That would take decades until HG went under and Bandai go grab the rights for save keeping.
@thetalkingteddy538
4 жыл бұрын
Yeah
@mannypardo1080
4 жыл бұрын
This along with Panzer World Galient, Armored Trooper VOTOMS, and Dragonar are awesome mecha choices. A shame that we don't get as many good ones like we used to.
@andrejg4136
4 жыл бұрын
The problem is that basically, the market got burnt out. If you are going to start a new mecha franchise now, you need to hit from the first season otherwise you're going to get lost in what is popular now. And then a lot of recent mecha didn't have good enough hooks or worlds to sustain themselves, beyond the initial impression. They would have been fine in the 80s when you could just say "Sure, that mecha series didn't work, but we have another 5 coming out this year or next...". When it's only 1 or 2, maybe, every couple of years... you don't have room for error in the genre anymore.
@belldrop7365
4 жыл бұрын
Mecha war animes got introduced to "culture" and got replaced with moe moe slice of life animes. As the Zentradi would say, "Yack, deculture!"
@andrejg4136
4 жыл бұрын
@@belldrop7365 You could argue its a meta commentary on "the culture" of anime itself; combat used to be the central anchor of the story conflicts, but over time, it's been replaced by interpersonal conflict and some sociological wish fulfillment.
@DonVigaDeFierro
4 жыл бұрын
Dun dun dun ↑←↑
@atticusthegamingllama8302
4 жыл бұрын
As a BattleTech fan, I sympathize with the Macross fandom's struggle with Harmony Gold.
@colbycoolby1592
3 жыл бұрын
*Remembers incident over how the Marauder and Warhammer looked* ....Yeah Harmony Gold are just. I dont know scummy?
@zeus28frenzy
3 ай бұрын
@@colbycoolby1592 Fuck HG, long live House steiner
@venomouslizards
4 жыл бұрын
If you think the animation is great in the show, then you’ll be amazed at how fantastic the animation is in the movie version “Do you Remember Love”.
@markplott4820
4 жыл бұрын
Agree, and check out Macross ZERO the Prequel to the MACROSS series , showing FOLKKER piloting the VF-0 Phoenix prototype Valkerie fighter.
@Gunsight-One
4 жыл бұрын
Macross Frontier and Macross Plus also deserve mention for great animation. Deculture!
@DonVigaDeFierro
4 жыл бұрын
"Do you remember love" is one of the best animated films of the 20th century. The animation is on another level.
@Gunsight-One
4 жыл бұрын
@@DonVigaDeFierro LOL. Absolutely true. I actually watched it today. Absolute masterpiece. One of the best anime features ever.
@lordlycius
4 жыл бұрын
Character redesigns were cool too, I especially liked seeing Exedore finally in all of his crazy grotesque pre (Macross-7) looking glory... lol
@elpeopuru3003
4 жыл бұрын
I regret that I have but only one account to like this post
@ZeonicZaku1-Zeon_Grunt_Suit
4 жыл бұрын
Want some ice cream?
@PS3PS2fan
4 жыл бұрын
Me: Puru. Domon and Milliardo are calling for you!
@lukasjuszczak1664
4 жыл бұрын
I have Two.
@itsgrey8135
4 жыл бұрын
@@PS3PS2fan I see that you are a man of culture as well
@singletona082
4 жыл бұрын
Ire ember this through robotch. I remember being confused at why everyone hated jarmony gokd. Then i found out and i too hate harmony gold. They were positioned to lead the way and i stead slammed the door on global distribution. I view robotech as a cousin universe to macross. Setting harmony gold's douchfuckery aside? I have fun memories.
@jiriz0r
4 жыл бұрын
Andrew Singleton I came to Macross via BattleTech (on which the MechWarrior games are based) so I already hated Harmony Gold due to the whole “unseen” lawsuit debacle. Then I learned what they did with Robotech and I hated them even more.
@MaxHDAvenger
4 жыл бұрын
I moved on with Robotech, kid me enjoyed it but did not understand any story to it and that same kid me jumped ship with Gundam and the rest is history.
@singletona082
Жыл бұрын
I'm in my forties. I honestly want a mechwarrior/Battletech series with this animation style and character design. ExPRESSLY as a fuck you to harmony gold. It'd be glorious @@jiriz0r
@ZeonicZaku1-Zeon_Grunt_Suit
4 жыл бұрын
For some reason, Jerid Messa piloting a Valkyrie is something I can't get out of my head right now.
@NeoZ45
4 жыл бұрын
"Dear diary today i killed jerid's mentor and love interests"
@gravefox4206
4 жыл бұрын
imagine Yazen Gable in a Valkyrie Jerid is trash Yazen is best baddie.
@gungriffen
4 жыл бұрын
Remember the era Robotech was made. People still called Anime, "Japanimation." and there was very little fandom in the US in 83 for Anime, Robotech is the show that is normally considered the start of Anime being taken serious in the US. In 83 there was no home video market, VCR's existed but they were expensive and few people owned them so a video release only on a format not owned by many with a relevantly unknown animation style at the time would be akin to burning money. During this time Harmony Gold had just licensed three Anime series, Macross, Southern Cross, and Mospaeda. They originally started to do straight 1 for 1 dubs of the three as separate shows as they were made but then realized that none of them had enough episodes to air on broadcast Television at the time. The ONLY way to sell a product like this at the time. At that point Harmony Gold was looking at High Risk, Low Reward. They had just bought several series they couldn't air, in an era before home video market, when people looked down on Anime (Speed Racer was the best known Anime of the time) Carl Macek realized with just a few script edits he could combine the three series into one and get it on TV, and that's how Robotech came to be. If I remember correctly he ended up with 90 days to translate and edit the script, edit the footage to match, and record the voice actors for the entire series and sell it to networks. His ability to pull that off should get him something. Harmony Gold after the fact have been dicks, so much so Carl Macek. The man who made the franchise for them (Including a sucessful Novel Series, Comics, and a Film) quit in disillusion in I think 93. The issue is Harmony Gold is actually a real-estate company that some there in 82 bought a bunch of Anime and got them into the media business. Because that's more of a fluke than a planned endeavor they just sit on the rights as they see themselves not as producers of a Space Opera but as Real-Estate Agency that make royalties on something they didn't really intend to be in to start with. Finally Southern Cross was a complete FLOP in Japan and was cancelled before completion, and Mospaeda enjoyed Mediocre success. The Robotech Dub is 85% accurate to Macross, it's the other two heavily edited into the Macross story line and some say that Robotech actually salvaged Southern Cross all together and that Mospaeda was handled better as well.
@Sin526
3 жыл бұрын
I regret that I have but one like to give this extremely well-reasoned and intelligent comment
@rikk319
2 жыл бұрын
I'm 53, and was lucky enough to grow up with an Air Force father, which meant we lived around the country and world, and I had friends whose mothers were from Japan. Even before I could read, I was watching Speed Racer, Battle of the Planets, Galaxy Express 999, Space Battleship Yamato, and Astro Boy, as well as having a dad who loved Godzilla, other kaiju like Gamera, and Bruce Lee along with other martial arts films. It wasn't until Robotech came out that other kids started to notice anime, though. I was a big model builder back then, and my room had various mecha models hanging from the ceiling, along with real military planes. Robotech made anime cool--though Voltron helped. I was known at school as an artist who would draw caricatures of people, and when I started doing people as anime versions of themselves, even more people would ask for versions of themselves. Robotech really put anime on the map outside of niche people like me. Being an early teen then, it also was influential to my personal development. I could identify with Rick, though being the oldest kid in my family, I always wanted to be Roy. It was matched only by Star Wars, and my identification with Luke Skywalker. I was also an early Lisa stan, and despised Minmei XD Me and my brothers adapted Robotech to a roleplaying game at the time, Star Frontiers (made by TSR, the ones who created D&D), and we had a lot of fun with all three aspects of Robotech. I may have moved on eventually to Evangelion, Fullmetal Alchemist, Bleach, etc., but Robotech will always have a fond place in my heart.
@soulsurvivor8293
Жыл бұрын
Considering my complete disregard for the Southern Cross Saga, essentially only enjoying the Macross and Mospaeda Saga's...hell, I only consider the mecha and general events from the Southern Cross Saga as caonon out of appreciation for the completness of the story. I would say that the Japanese series Southern Cross is based on must have been awfully unbearable. Palladium did an awesome TTRPG system for Robotech, not to mention the plethora of all the original Japanese Macross series too. Best part was that Palladium systems were able to be used with one another, they did the old school version of TMNT (Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles) too. Nothing can describe the pure awesomeness of having a game of Ooze induced animal mutatant pilots, using matial arts as Giant Zentradi or using any of the mecha from both Macross and Robotech. The Valkyries being the "Newer" designs of sleeker, more technologically advanced transformable mecha. While the numerous Veritechs and Sentinel Tanks from the span of all of Robotech Saga's are less agile but more bulky, armoured and could do more unique things (Alpha/Beta Veritech fusions etc) with a more robust array of weaponry. Valkyries with their more agile and pilot intigrated controls were better suited to eastern martial arts. While the more robust & powerful frames of the Veritech's worked well with the likes of Boxing, western kick boxing, wrestling and other grappling based martial arts. Even without the TMNT Ooze mutations and just using the rules for martial arts in TMNT or another Palladium TTRPG called 'Ninjas & Superspies' made for an interesting mash up using Macross and Robotech together. My brother made a Valkyrie Pilot that used Taekwondo, he was a CQB specialist that used a carbine style gunpod with nothing but short range missiles and some unguided rockets for his internal payload. Used the rockets mounted in his Valkyries forearms and legs in conjunction with Taekwondo moves to deliver precision, point blank, rockets to his opponents as he entered or disengaged from melee range. Could even use 'em with two quick sucessive roundhouse kicks to fire the rockets a little past (jusy from the rockets, the kicks were for flourish haha) the short range missle range but just short of the best effective range of the carbine gun pods range. Was an absolute hoot. That said, utterly pathetic how Harmony Gold has conducted themselves. As stated somewhere wlese in the comments; We are not mad at Robotech, we are mad at Harmony Gold.
@markplott4820
Жыл бұрын
that ALL changed with Macross DYRL in 1984 in Japan Theaters, breaking the Mould what can be done in 70mm Dolby format.
@natemakes5344
2 ай бұрын
I respect this comment a lot, and thank you for shedding some light on the less explained portions of the argument. But Harmony Gold is never going to he in the right. Super Sentai and Power rangers both exist peacefully with japan and the us allowing the distribution of both with no opposition. There is literally no reason for Robotech to be the exception. My guess is that they think their sales would drop if SDF Macross coexisted with its spanning sequels. I feel like it wouldn't be a problem though if they USED 40 YEARS TO DO ANYTHING MORE THAN THAT. The only media they sell is remasters of Robotech and they have been riding it forever. I would respect both but there is a clear choice of side of what to watch.
@DanielAspajo9930
4 жыл бұрын
Robotech is not only a Space Opera but more like a "Telenovela"
@Gomeshock
4 жыл бұрын
Weird memory. That reminds me of when we went to Plaza Las Americas near Cancun, MX, and found some Spanish language (duh) DVDs of Robotech. If I had the region's DVD player, I would have picked it up.
@nargarex2390
3 жыл бұрын
Uhmm, SpaceNovela?
@RaddSpencer
4 жыл бұрын
HARD disagree on Robotech having better music and sound design. The sound effects come off flatter, muddier, and the music is a massive downgrade. In Macross the sound effects are sharper and fit the animation better. "Dogfighter" is a far more intense and dramatic piece of music than Robotech's synth music. There's also far more original music created for Macross, fewer tracks means a lot of Robotech's score gets repeated more often. Of course, that's all just my take. The current state of Macross? I didn't care for the newest show, Macross Delta. It reused a lot of the same story beats that its predecessor Macross Frontier did much better and I disliked the music. But there's a lot of good Macross shows and movies to watch, definitely more good than bad.
@teddydayoooo
4 жыл бұрын
So, I havent watched robotech in like, what, 20 years? Do enlighten me if robotech still emphasizes that the series is a SF action-drama-musical? Cuz I remember, and still think to this day, that Macross is one of the best anime when it comes to music..
@andrejg4136
4 жыл бұрын
@@teddydayoooo Music is like one of the cornerstones of the Macross mythos; since music is one of the things that culture creates. Yes there is a lot of sci-fi/fantasy mumbo-jumbo behind what music really does in Macross-verse, but in the end, the idea is that music -> culture, and cultural harmony is what brings about peace between peoples (or species). Now if Robotech wanted to leave that to the side... then it's basically missing at least a third, if not half, of what Macross is. On the other hand... that'd be typical for a repackaged work from the 80s...
@teddydayoooo
4 жыл бұрын
@@andrejg4136 yeah, what i was basically saying was "does robotech have "Do you remember love?"
@sgt_s4und3r54
4 жыл бұрын
The only thing bad about Robotech is Harmony Gold and the damage they've done to Macross in the USA through it's many lawsuits that have killed or nearly killed many other franchises or anime releases here.
@RaddSpencer
4 жыл бұрын
@@teddydayoooo Robotech downplays the musical side of things and the songs they give Minmei are...not great.
@victorcain8607
4 жыл бұрын
I would say you should defiantly watch "Macross Plus", and "Do you remember love?". I also really liked "Macross Frontier" but it is a lot heavier on the idols.
@Gunsight-One
4 жыл бұрын
None of them hold a candle to the idol worship than Macross Delta. Idol overload. Easily the worst entry in the franchise.
@jayglier
4 жыл бұрын
@@Gunsight-One you haven't seen Macross 7 have you?
@Gunsight-One
4 жыл бұрын
@@jayglier ugh, yes. Well not all of it because I have better things to do with my time. I know its bad, but Delta takes the cake when it comes to dancing Valkyries. 😖
@brightlight8852
4 жыл бұрын
@@Gunsight-One let's be honest Delta was the worst because it was the most boring.
@paraclonebasedtrooper8225
4 жыл бұрын
@@brightlight8852 especially the "fight scenes" just puts me to sleep.
@EMalachi
4 жыл бұрын
Macross > Robotech. What are your thoughts on the following series'? I'm not really a fan of idol animé generally and so thought the greater focus on music would be repelling, but I actually fell in love with the characters of each successive series.
@Scriptedviolince
4 жыл бұрын
Oh he's probably gonna hate them. The thing about Macross is that music generally sits front and center for them and the idols are actually very important plot points. The idol stuff in Macross apparently sat wrong with him so the other shows placing even greater emphasis on the idols is gonna really grind.
@juancholo7502
4 жыл бұрын
Something to keep in mind about "Canon" in Macross, the idea is that we the viewers are watching TV shows from the Macross universe based on the historical events that happened. This comes from interviews with Shoji Kawamori himself. Think of the "History" of Macross as WWII, Korean War & Vietnam War & the various shows as SDF Macross = RAT Patrol, DYRL Movie = Saving Private Ryan, Macross 7 = MASH, Macross Frontier = Tour of Duty & Macross Delta = Down Periscope. or something. Mr Kawamori used the example of how there are many anime & live action versions of Nobunaga & the Warring States Period.
@RayShadow278
4 жыл бұрын
"Everything is canon and nothing is at the same time" It's another way we get inserted into the Macross world, by presenting the media as the exact same stuff the people from that universe would have. Love that.
@vandalpir9
4 жыл бұрын
I thought that was true for the movies and the TV series were the canonical versions.
@juancholo7502
4 жыл бұрын
@@vandalpir9 DRYL was originally supposed to be a movie made to commemerate Space War 1. The differences in the mecha were explained that the "film" used later block upgrades of the Valyrie fighters that were still left. In later shows, Kawamori would gleefully grab uniforms, mecha etc. from any previous version. In Macross 7 there was a celebration of the end of Space War 1 that had "cosplayers", some Zentradi dressed like the TV show whiles others like the DYRL movie. Millia was where her TV UN Spacy flight suit while piloting her personaly owned DYRL movie Valkyrie (actually an even later custom job) Kawamori has included all movies, TV shows & OVAs more recently in his "this is just the holywood version of events". The dates, names, mech spechs, fleet names/numbers & general situations are Canon, but "liberties" might have been taken with certain events & relationships. On the one hand this can drive people nuts in trying to figure out Canon events, but on the other hand it means you can have your own head canon on how things went out side of the main story.
@shira_yone
3 жыл бұрын
@@juancholo7502 that's really cool. I personally prefer the TV show over DYRL but there's lots of good stuff that comes from DYRL that I wished were there in the show (point is it's my head canon that the story have elements from both).
@ultramonkeyboy1
4 жыл бұрын
Watch “Do you remember love” its the movie retelling of macross and Id like to hear your thoughts on it as its very different from the tv series
@Gunsight-One
4 жыл бұрын
It is an anime masterpiece.
@viperleader001
4 жыл бұрын
It ROCKS!!!!
@Nextliar
4 жыл бұрын
Do you remember love inst the true history, canonicaly, DYRL its a movie IN the macross universe too
@stuntmonkey00
3 жыл бұрын
DYRL and Urusei Yatsura: Beautiful Dreamer both came out in 1984 and are two of the most iconic hand-drawn anime movies that aren't Studio Ghbili.
@shira_yone
3 жыл бұрын
@@Nextliar source? Seems like they retconned it in later installments and treats DYRL (or sometimes a combination of both the TV show and DYRL) as the true continuity.
@steelfalconx2000
3 жыл бұрын
I was lucky enough to watch Robotech in the 80's when it aired. Yes, my mind was blown.
@Norbert_Sattler
4 жыл бұрын
With the Macross franchise, there are some things that baffle me. They seem to be very hit and miss... literally. Macross good -> Macross 7 (the sequel) bad -> Macross Frontier good -> Macross Delta bad. It's like there's a rule that says Macross series have to alternate between good and bad. Then there's the movies. When the series is good, the movies rewrite the canon story in a far worse way... and when the series is bad (i.e. Macross 7) the movie was great without screwing with canon. If it hasn't become clear already, I really like the original Macross and Frontier and dislike Macross 7 and Delta. Not to the point of hate, but certainly to the point of not wanting to rewatch them in the next... decade or so I guess, if ever. Though I wish they could make a series without a forced love triange. Every Macross series apparently MUST have a love triangle... and I hate those. Oh and the two OVA series Zero and Plus are great too.
@Kaelnovar
4 жыл бұрын
The funny thing about that is both of the series you think of as bad were music first and mecha second, while the good was mecha first and music second. Personally I like them all but i find myself re-watching macross seven and delta more then the original and frontier, because of how campy and ridiculous the idea of fighting with music in space can be.
@giathuanleviet4138
4 жыл бұрын
@@Kaelnovar have you watch the new delta movie ? Jesus they have like 5 minutes of new animation, and even worse than the tv series What's left are basically recap of the series
@Norbert_Sattler
3 жыл бұрын
@@giathuanleviet4138 To be honest I actually prefer a pure recap movie over one that rewrites the canon of the preceding series, which then continues to be the new canon for the following series in a way that is worse than that of the series. The recap movies are at least only bad in themselves and don't ruin the lore like Macross and Macross: Frontier movies did.
@Nexuish
4 жыл бұрын
*sees Macross in thumbnail* My reaction: Oh look, the carnival is in town! Honey, get the missiles!
@zerosen2141
4 жыл бұрын
It's always a good day when the Circus of Itano comes to town.
@Gunsight-One
4 жыл бұрын
Nobody does missiles like Itano. Kyuun!!
@emmanuelwil-jeff
4 жыл бұрын
A moment of silence for viewers who don't like the mecha genre and so will never know these masterpieces *it's so hard to say goodbye to yesterday*
@ahumblebountyhunter
4 жыл бұрын
Macross: Do You Remember Love >
@barrybend7189
4 жыл бұрын
Dude they made DYRL as a joke of the Gundam compilation films and as a means to get out of the Tatsunoko rights dispute for later series. So SDF Macross events canon but DYRL design canon. Also the movie is infact a movie in canon.
@NOIDEDU
4 жыл бұрын
@@barrybend7189 well in 7 miria wears the tv pilot suit for some reason and also pilots a red valkyrie so in my head atleast the canon is a wierd combination of both the tv and the movie versions
@barrybend7189
4 жыл бұрын
@@NOIDEDU no its Literally the TV show is the event canon but DYRL is a movie in universe( as in Macross 7 episode 1 one of the Battle 7's bridge officers mentions it). Its just for most of the designs in the later shows are of the Movie.
@otakubullfrog1665
4 жыл бұрын
You should definitely watch the movie version, Do You Remember Love, which has an amazing soundtrack.
@tommaydag420
4 жыл бұрын
Or just watch the dubbed version of Macross, It came out a number of years ago. They even got Mari Ijima to redub Minmei in english. It was done by ADV.
@vandalpir9
4 жыл бұрын
That was the first version of SDF-Macross I watched and I LOVED IT. I watched robotech on and off as a kid and loved the mecha designs but having the original OST and the English dub with Iijima was so cool!
@agles9s
4 жыл бұрын
ya alot of people dont think of that. though i wanna say the 1 run was all they made. also, havent looked but i not seen it streaming.
@agles9s
4 жыл бұрын
@@vandalpir9 the ADV dub?
@vandalpir9
4 жыл бұрын
@@agles9s it was. It isn't anymore, just checked. Sorry!
@BioGoji-zm5ph
3 жыл бұрын
If only ADV hadn't gone under and rebirthed itself as Section 23, then those Macross DVD's would probably still be in circulation and much easier to find and afford.
@anime-mun
4 жыл бұрын
Fun fact: if you take the right freeze frames in Do You Remember Love the missiles are designed to look like various cans. Drink cans and even Budweiser cans. A good friend of mine who worked on the battle scenes of it loves that story.
@winternote3480
4 жыл бұрын
I recommend checking out Legend of the Galactic Heroes, it's interesting.
@Ash_Wen-li
4 жыл бұрын
Miracle Yang approves!
@isaiahsmith7123
4 жыл бұрын
Yessss!!! That is such a good series
@dappercrow1454
4 жыл бұрын
At this time and for the next week Amazon thew their audio book company Audible are selling an English translation of the first Legend of the Galactic Heroes novel for $5.
@emmanuelwil-jeff
4 жыл бұрын
im down for anything mecha in remeberance of people who don't like mecha oh how sad
@NightingaleSong
4 жыл бұрын
can't stand LoGH. It starts out promisingly but becomes a repetitive and pointless slog.
@Delta-es1lg
4 жыл бұрын
My dad introduced me to Robotech when I was a kid and I loved the hell out of it. I haven't watched any actual Macross, and I haven't seen Robotech in a long time, but maybe I'll watch again after this.
@andrewmclachlan4242
8 ай бұрын
Check Out Macross DYRL & Macross Plus 😎👍
@citrusslimreaper
4 жыл бұрын
Yo shoutout to the Mekkkah reference at the end! Also as someone who didn't see Robotech until college, I loved it. I haven't watched the original yet, but I will once I've finished Star Blazers!
@Panisgood
4 жыл бұрын
pitfall
@Scriptedviolince
4 жыл бұрын
Star Blazers is decent as an adaptation, but really, once you finish it, watch Space Battleship Yamato 2199. It's the rebooted version, does a lot differently, and is legitimately better than the original show even for die hard fans. You'll know the difference once you see what they do differently with the Battle off Pluto.
@thecountofmontecristo2796
4 жыл бұрын
Yeah Star Blazers
@Gunsight-One
4 жыл бұрын
I second that. Watch Space Battleship Yamato 2199 and its second season 2202. What a great remake. I wish Macross could get remade with those kinds of sensibilities.
@citrusslimreaper
4 жыл бұрын
@Samuel Wang 2199 is actually what I'm on, it's also titled Star Blazers on Funimation and that stuck more for some reason. I went into it completely blind, but I keep hearing about how it's a great adaptation of the original Battleship Yamato from back in the day. It's really good, I'm like 3 episodes away from the end!
@merrick1588
3 жыл бұрын
Macross: birthplace of the anime troupe "FIRE ALL THE MISSILES IN EXSISTANCE THEN DO IT AGAIN!"
@i.still.function3463
4 жыл бұрын
And..... To save everyone's time from watching both Robotech/Macross just watch DYRL;)
@VF19SExcalibur
4 жыл бұрын
That example of audio you gave made no favor to your argument on sound design imo, original design sounds mechanical, Robotech one sounds like a couple of douphins having a conversation.
@kenjones9326
4 жыл бұрын
Robotech was one of the first anime I watched as a kid. I remember watching it back in 87-88. Damn, I feel old.
@NyankoDevice
4 жыл бұрын
what i dont like about robotech is what they made protoculture into.... fuel
@Plaprad
4 жыл бұрын
I remember watching this on my grandparents old wood frame TV everyday. Still love it to this day.
@0LycanFX
3 жыл бұрын
ADV did do a more faithful dub. Good luck getting it at a good price. Also they got the Japanese Voice Actress of Minmei to voice her for the ADV dub.
@mystaircase690
4 жыл бұрын
Man I remember this show as robotech. My dad showed me it through VHS recordings and DVD collections.
@Gunsight-One
4 жыл бұрын
Ah nostalgia. I too have great memories associated with Robotech/Macross.
@shikasketchbook7610
4 жыл бұрын
As 80s kids Enjoyed the franchise since the beginning until Frontier & Delta where its target marker shifted to a more younger audience and really dont like the 3D objects that doesnt really blend in with the 2D style, Macross7 was the peak beautifully hand drawn mostly then its slowly lost some human touch with more 3D assets put in the anime & the Walkure music....urgh...
@Shagohod1897
3 жыл бұрын
It's pronounced MACK-ross. Not Ma-CROSS. However, I do agree with your take on Robotech. It's great as its own thing. I don't understand the pretentious hatred.
@YouTubeCensors
3 жыл бұрын
This guy butchered Macross the entire time.
@redactedz6146
4 жыл бұрын
5:43 I never thought I'd see Accguy Unit 01
@weaponlogic
4 жыл бұрын
There is an English translation of Macross. It was released as a boxset in the early 2000's. And yes Macross is amazing. Cool vid bud.
@YouTubeCensors
3 жыл бұрын
Yea, Animeigo sp? Boxset.
@Mughen93
4 жыл бұрын
I legit bought all the harmony dvd’s unaware of their stanglehold on the franchise in the states, here’s hoping 7, frontier and delta get bought up by someone and re released in the states
@markplott4820
4 жыл бұрын
we need MACROSS Zero in America.
@gravefox4206
4 жыл бұрын
2021 ppl supposedly HG will loose that damned license from what ive heard but what you should all fear is will japan take down robotech period or let it continue to exsist
@lorcannagle
4 жыл бұрын
@@gravefox4206 Tatsunoko have renewed Harmony Gold's license twice since the lawsuit that determined HG's license wasn't perpetual like they claimed. I would not hold out hope of them changing their mind next year. Part of this is because it's easy money for Tatsunoko and there's no reason for them to change it - thanks to another lawsuit between them and Big West, they only have international distribution rights to the original Macross TV show and not the sequels or the design work behind the shows. Apparently this decision lead to some level of animosity between the two companies. (In case you don't know the history, Big West were the original producers of Macross, when they show as a hit they wanted to extend the runtime but didn't have the budget to do so. Tatsunoko came on as a co-producer and part of the deal what that they got the international distribution rights. In the 90s, after Big West had begun producing Macross sequels, Tatsunoko sued, claiming some level of ownership over the entire franchise.) Because Harmony Gold are incredibly litigious around their rights to Macross/Robotech, they can be relied upon to block any import of Macross-related goods to the US, the costs of which are defrayed against their license fees to Tatsunoko for Macross. Basically HG continue to make whatever they make from licensing Robotech, Tatsunoko either make a little money or don't have to deal with the legal costs of blocking a rival from exploiting the Macross name in the US, and business continues for the pair of them.
@MegaroadProducciones
3 жыл бұрын
WTF? The sound isn't only what show ir, it's about you DON'T show also. That scene with Hikaru rescue Minmay, it's waaaay better un Macross. Also, it's Macross, and not Ma-cróss. There is so many errors on this "Review"...
@MildestTaco
4 жыл бұрын
I never clicked on a notification so fast
@DragoonKain3
4 жыл бұрын
Macross is amazing and IMO the definitive edition, but you are right - I still remember Robotech because of the battle sounds. I first saw Robotech as a kid, rewatched it in entirety before puberty, and then only saw the original Macross in my late teens. I always felt that there was some 'oomph' missing from the Macross fights, and now you point out sound design, I think you hit the nail right on the head. Now you touched on some 'controversies' about the latest series Delta, let me reiterate what I've been told. In SDF Macross, it was basically a mecha show TRYING to sell an idol. In Delta, it's basically an idol show TRYING to sell mecha. Both are a product of their times; back in the 80's and 90's, mecha anime were all the rage, while in the 2010's cute-girls-doing-cute-things (of which idol shows is a part of) is the dominant genre right next to isekai. So Kawamori leverages more on what is popular in order to make the money spent on the project and then some, because let's be honest here, the mecha genre as we knew it was already dead in 2016. So yeah, I honestly don't blame Kawamori on focusing on the idols with Delta - that's where the current market is. What I DO have a problem with Kawamori is that in his previous shows, the opposing faction wasn't inherently 'evil'. Zentradi were brought up for war, Devils just wanted to eat, and the Vajra thought they were rescuing one of their own. But man, the Windermere leaders were just straight up assholes. I get it that they were an allegory to Imperial Japan (and the Windermere leadership should be depicted that way), but it honestly made the opposing side much less sympathetic. I loved SDF Macross because it taught me that there is humanity to us all so we should try to find a peaceful end to war with the help of songs, while Delta was really all about bringing down the 'evil' and 'greedy' nations through better firepower and better singing. I say one is more profound and better storytelling than the other, and is IMO the greatest failing of Delta even though I enjoyed it a great deal (Ikenai Borderline is aboslute dope!)
@mrmacross
7 ай бұрын
Everyone complains about how the time crunch for production killed the animation for a lot of episodes, but you could make the argument that the sound design got hurt just as much. If there's one thing Macross does badly that RT doesn't, it's that Macross has a lot of scenes with incomplete sound effects. You'll see something happen on screen but no accompanying sound. RT didn't have the same production woes so they could complete the SFX. So while I don't try to tell people what BGM music they should like, I'll give RT the nod here because it's not incomplete. But give me Mari Iijima's vocals!
@raginidjit457
3 жыл бұрын
As you have stated even when you’re talking about original Macross you choose to use the Robotech names (i.e. Rick and Lisa instead of Hikaru and Misa) and of course you use the Robotech soundtrack for your background music. Yet if I understand your conclusions correctly you believe that one should view them as separate entities rather than judge them against each other. Aren’t you in fact judging them by using the Robotech names? Possible spoiler alert... Personally I have enjoyed both titles, but I don’t think you can really judge the Macross part of Robotech separately from the rest of the series. The changes made to Macross for the Robotech storyline (what protoculture is, Gloval’s plan for humanity) bind it to the rest of the series in a way Macross isn’t for it’s sequels. The thing is, I don’t think it needed to. Macross’ original ending (humanity dispersing to settle the stars) could just as easily led into Southern Cross and Mospeada. In fact, original Southern Cross does not take place on Earth. One last comment. Personally, I prefer the original soundtrack and original Minmay’s songs. Mari Iijima was already a singer and songwriter before she got the role of Lynn Minmay, and in fact that propelled her into J-Pop stardom in her own right.
@deltoid77-nick
3 жыл бұрын
Personally I came for the mechs. The story was a bonus and inconsequential I personally couldn't tell too much of a difference between Robotech(Macross material) and Macross but I ended up liking Macross as it actually has closure and a better premise with the rest of its series on going with the Galaxy at Large (and the Mech designs in the Macross series are better) because Robotech just kind of ends and the sequels kind of suck owing to the fact the remixed animes feel off for they're not the same thing(the're other Japanese intellectual properties) and yes Lisa is best girl, everything about Minmei and her vapid impulsive personality pisses me off.
@mr.sackoratch3444
2 жыл бұрын
WOAH I watched sdf macross for the first time last week and I just noticed this morning how superior Robotech’s sound quality is (score and voice acting aside of course). During the scene from virgin road episode in SDFM, when Max defeats Milia in the knife fight, he lifts her chin up with the tip of his finger and her feet lift off the effing ground, and all you can hear are Max’s shoes awkwardly tapping around lol. I remember rewinding it a couple times because I literally thought max had dragged her off by her head. I watched the robotech version (called wedding bells I believe) and the genius in the studio decided to add a twinkling chime effect to this scene which immediately evokes a dreamlike sequence and you really get that she and him are floating away in love or what ever. It totally fixed the scene imo I think I need to watch the whole macross season of robotech now just to appreciate this person’s work.
@noelinfante5761
4 жыл бұрын
Hey @boofire191 ! How about try watching Fafner in the Azure? it started airing in 2004 but the story still continuing until today. This may be one of longest running single storyline mecha series
@androyus
4 жыл бұрын
Thank God I grew up with the original Macross instead of the Frankenstein that was Robotech. After watching both, Macross is definitely superior to Robotech in almost every way. I'll give Robotech the sound FX, but definitely *not* the BGMs & songs. Macross obliterates Robotech in that regard. Also, Macross has more unique charms to it which got sanitized in Robotech to various degrees. Thank God the old practise of localizing anime has mostly died down even though there's still remaining residu of it.
@alphaxnation7050
4 жыл бұрын
The problem is Macross is a large series. Harmony Gold has prevented all the sequals and side stories that you probably have not seen. Also, why are you using the Robotech soundtrack? The original Macross music is available online. You also use the English names. You should use both. Itbis obvious that you are biased towards Robotech. I watched both. I have also seen the ones the west will never see. Macross has been held hostage for too long. By the way, Macross story is about the people. The mechs are secondary.
@chimbloanimation9242
3 жыл бұрын
I found a super dimension Fortress macross Accurate English dub on KZitem and I’m watching it right now
@volts7230
4 жыл бұрын
Both are good in my book the story telling is there but I do like the Japanese version more. Besides the last Three good ones (Macross Plus, Macross Frontier and Macross Delta) carry the same themes (finding and accepting oneself and finding love) even if they are different stories only connected by history. To be truthful I grew up on Robotech only got to view the Japanese Series Macross when I was in college already in the 90's (apparently thats what I remembered but someone told me we got an airing of the original episode someone put the time to dubbed it locally and air it where I live too it was short lived since Harmony Gold got international rights to distribute ). Just a pity that Harmony gold is such a shady company though and I do think they ended up hurting the Macross folks too. But now that things are settled the versions neglected by the copyright dispute can finally be released outside Japan this gives hope that the franchise will have a longer lifespan plus Macross Delta had its second film out and Frontier had its own mini movie too.
@JustAnotherPest
4 жыл бұрын
Take a shot every time he pronounces it Muhcross instead of Macross.
@gravefox4206
4 жыл бұрын
thats actually how it is suppose to be pronouced lol Ma Cross lol funny enough it was suppose to be titled Macbeth true shit.
@EpicBlargman
4 жыл бұрын
Macross is awesome, i watched through the original series 6 or 7 years ago and watched the DYRL film as well; i was really impressed. It has great art, music, plot, and characters etc that rival even Gundam and im a Gundam fan as well. I even went ahead and bought some macross models like the arcadia sdf1 and valkyries as im also a gunpla kit builder. Anyhow, Macross also has some of the best mech designs of all time from Shoji Kawamori. I mean you have the Valkyrie jets that transform into humanoid mechs and even the SDF-1 itself. The amount of attention to detail is insane especially in the film too. I have only watched the original series and the film, i havent watched any of the other ones, i dont dislike them i just dont feel any interest, to me the new macross animes seems to have kinda gone off the rails, for me its not going to match the originals in my opinion.
@GerardoSantana
4 жыл бұрын
"Lisa is best girl" My dude.
@barrybend7189
4 жыл бұрын
I'm more Shammy( called Sammy in Robotech) she's an adorable cinnamon bun.
@thecountofmontecristo2796
4 жыл бұрын
Lisa is still my favorite anime female character. And Rick being my favorite anime male character.
@RyanEX2000
4 жыл бұрын
The triangle between Rick Lisa and Minmei was to date was one of favourite parts of the series. Rick wasn't some playboy, he was just a guy stuck between his original crush, Minmei and his growing romance with Lisa. The you have Lisa who is Rick's superior and is while frustrated with his rebellious nature is at the same time attracted to it while still grieving over her dead boyfriend on Mars. Then you got Minmei who initially comes across as an airhead and is initially only flattered by Rick's crush begins to depend on him while at the same time clueless to her older cousin's feelings as well. It is honestly one of the best written romantic triangles that I've yet to see topped by modern media. I'll admit I was on the fence initially, by the scene of Lisa in the bar during the second arc put me firmly on Team Lisa after you realise just how much Rick means to her.
@ViewpointProd
4 жыл бұрын
misa*
@GerardoSantana
4 жыл бұрын
@@ViewpointProd I said Lisa. Boofire said Lisa. Both names are fine. If youre complaining about Harmony Gold tho? With you 100% Otherwise I don't need your corrections. Thanks
@ForgedHorizons
4 жыл бұрын
I dont hate robotech for being different. I hate it for stealing a series without the series creators consent then using said stolen series to ban import of anything with the macross name, or any similarity to a VF from entering the US legally.
@V-Oblivion
4 жыл бұрын
The memories, the nostalgia, come as a broken dam, thanks. Thia series was one of my favorite when I was a kid, and yes, I have seen both. And love them all the same. *Extra spoiler, read at your own risk.* Also, I had to remember how everyone from the bridge, but Lisa, died at the final episode. Quite a downer but still a good send off for the Capitan and her Second in command. Sad for the bridge bunnies though.
@YouTubeCensors
3 жыл бұрын
Only in Robotech. In Macross they all live iirc
@PlungerMettaur
4 жыл бұрын
Robotech was my introduction to both anime and the mecha genre as a kid and loved every second of it. even had two Robotech games: Battlecry and Invasion
@KennethSee
2 жыл бұрын
I played the heck out of Battlecry. Such a fun a game!
@LaplaceBacklogs
4 жыл бұрын
I watched Macross Delta. Does that count? The anime was alright.
@elpeopuru3003
4 жыл бұрын
It was fun but the weakest IMO. The other 3 are very good!
@Courier-gq6ym
4 жыл бұрын
It was trash, it’s easily the worst of them all.
@Cousin_Uli
4 жыл бұрын
You're lucky, you have nowhere to go but up in terms of choosing another entry.
@SgtR3ynolds
4 жыл бұрын
I've watched the original and Plus and man, Plus was so bad. I couldn't stand any of the characters.
@markplott4820
4 жыл бұрын
Macross Zero was Better.
@Robo-kz3nr
4 жыл бұрын
Harmony Gold More like harmony shit Am I right?
@gaoexkaiser
3 жыл бұрын
I just hate Robotech for making Macross a lot harder to release more toys and shows in the west
@Cousin_Uli
4 жыл бұрын
If you really dig the action in Macross you owe it to yourself to check out Do You Remember Love. Which at first glance looks like a clip-show style re-edit of the first season, but is actually a fully produced feature film depicting a very truncated version of the first series. It's totally jaw dropping visually for a mid budgeted anime film from 84.
@tonygriego6382
4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for making a video on one of my favorite childhood shows. Gundam is great and all... but I was a Robotech/Macross kid back in the 80's.
@last_raven
4 жыл бұрын
I have been a Gundam fan since I was fairly young. It was one of my first anime. My wife got me into Macross after only being aware of it at a surface level. It absolutely blew me away, total counterpoint to Gundam and to great effect. I regret to admit I find Valkyries a lot more attractive than mobile suits now, DX Chogokin is harder on my wallet than the shooting sports.
@Hit0kiriMik3
4 жыл бұрын
Who would have thought that a video like this got recommended to a guy who wrote in a friend's yearbook "Watch the skies in '99". Still love me some Robotech.
@schrodingersgat4344
3 жыл бұрын
Robotech formed allot of my core values as a child. I went from "Super Friends" and "G.I. Joe"... to THIS. "Everyone survives ,always" to "Holy shit! Those helicopter pilots are dead!"
@rikk319
2 жыл бұрын
And (SPOILER) . . . . . . . . . . Roy Fokker's death. He was my man, and I'd never seen a cartoon where one of the main characters died. I'd read Lord of the Rings at 13, and it hit me as hard as Gandalf falling off the Bridge of Khazad-Dum.
@Gunsight-One
4 жыл бұрын
I enjoyed your compare and contrast style of review for this, my favorite anime series. Trust me, watching Robotech when it first came out as a child in the 80's, was awe inspiring. I love Robotech for what it did for the entire genre of anime in America and giving me a path to a lifelong love of anime. Macross on the other hand is the true masterpiece here. Once I watched the original there was no going back for me. Everything about this version is superior in every way. (Well I will give you the improvements in sound design) the changes to Hikaru and Minmay's characters in Robotech just throw the whole story off for me. Plus I prefer the music in Macross versus Robotech. That being said Robotech does have a very well done soundtrack and I could easily see someone disagreeing on that respect. Now to the real problem with Robotech. Harmony Gold. Their actions towards the treatment of this property have been horrendous at best. At times they acted as they didn't care about Macross. Allowing Macross Plus and Macross II to be licensed in America. They also created in conjunction with ADV an English dub of Macross, giving the original it's just due in an English version. On the other hand, Harmony Gold has blocked any other attempts for American licensing of other Macross series and movies, which makes being a Macross fan very difficult. As a last note I would recommend any fan of either Robotech or Macross to watch Macross: Do You Remember Love. It is a masterpiece of 80's animation and is a darker more mature take on the series. The animation is second to none and holds up today. It is a must see and sadly never received a proper release in America minus a really badly dubbed Clash of the Bionoids VHS.
@thecountofmontecristo2796
4 жыл бұрын
The VF-1S is one of my favorite mechs.
@ΓιάννηςΝικολάου-η5ω
4 жыл бұрын
You should watch Macross Plus and Macross Zero Boofire. The current state of Macross is terrible but they made some very good sequels and spin-offs in the 90s and 2000s.
@Zwisermon1
4 жыл бұрын
Ahh, one of many classics that must be remembered.
@MaxHDAvenger
4 жыл бұрын
Macross or Robotech? If Macross then yes, Robotech? It had its run and HG can't rerun it now.
@supsup335
4 жыл бұрын
Iwouldlove to see you review Macross Plus
@skywarp0564
4 жыл бұрын
Spoiler Alert! But I always like that Rick choose Lisa over Mammie.
@M1ABRIMSvsPANZER
4 жыл бұрын
I'm only 24 bit I literally grew up on this and og gundam
@blazesaber5991
4 жыл бұрын
As much as i love both i absolutely hate the magical girl idol show that macross has become. While idols have always been a thing in the series, the recent sequels feel like such a genre shift that i doubt i’ll even watch a new one as i feel it’s moved a bit too far away from its roots.
@paraclonebasedtrooper8225
4 жыл бұрын
Especially it hurts more after you just finished SDF and Plus. All that Drama and Realism just throws away from the Recent Series. I hate it when Macross is becoming a other Generic Idol master Anime wannabe.
@andrejg4136
4 жыл бұрын
@@paraclonebasedtrooper8225 The problem is that they're chasing market trends. And that's a damning statement, but your wider problem is that the market is just burnt on mecha in general, because so many in the 10s have been blech. It's like what happened during the 90s, there was a general drought unless you can get over the fact that the 90s franchises with longevity in people's minds, besides the 70s and 80s holdovers, were series that were aimed at kids and that people are still fond of those series they loved as 8-12 year olds. But honestly, this is just commercial media in general. Sometimes the wider market just gets burnt out, so you are left with genre fans until someone comes up with that hot new thing, even if it takes 10+ years to do it.
@paraclonebasedtrooper8225
4 жыл бұрын
@@andrejg4136 and the other statement from one of the comments you replied, That Macross was blindly heavily focus on Music more than Space Oprea. Since they thought What Macross succeded was Music, while it's more by Mature Space Oprea, But all that statement you told me is exactly what happen to Macross. Especially Macross has a small Fanbase due to HG destroyed the Franchise for the West. But Macross stopped being Macross was already happening ever since 7 Existed. Wich 7 Throws away everything what People loves and heavily focus on music to just get CDS. Kinda wish Kawamori just make AU's just like Gundam. The original and Canon Timeline is DYRL and plus. The rest of the Macross series that has bullshit magic singing in it should be in a magic Macross universe or so,
@paraclonebasedtrooper8225
4 жыл бұрын
@Nill Null i think my grammar is shite. Or you missing the point of my Comment. I never said Macross 7 stopped being Macross when it first existed. While i never Championed Plus to other Macross. I only compared DYRL and Plus to only Delta. 7, Zero and Frontier i actually enjoy them. But wish they were divided as Two different Universe. If that's the case then this comment wouldn't Existed. Because i don't care. Aslong DYRL and Plus aren't Connect to Zero, 7 Frontier and Delta. Then im okay and let them do what they want. The reason why i blame 7 more. Was because they started the Trend of Magic Singing power on future Macross titles. Wich it defeats the purpose about what Macross was about. I never said i hated 7. It was my Guilty pleasure. The only Macross i hate was Delta.
@Turbofurby
4 жыл бұрын
Honestly, Macross' current state isn't as bad as what people seemed to have told you. The latest entry, Delta, had more focus around the idol and musical aspect than the previous entry, Frontier, and it really seemed to trigger alot of people and write off the show as a whole. *plus it's nowhere near as bad as Macross II* EDIT: It's not Robotech itself that Macross fans hate, it's the Corporate Greediness of Harmony Gold that Macross fans hate.
@gravefox4206
4 жыл бұрын
Macross frontier was awsome granted it was more or less ment to be a fanservice reboot of both the classic and Macross 7. delta idk i tried watching it but got bored of it. and yes you are right harmony gold are fucken bastards they are basicly shitting on Carl Marck who took his time and effort to take 3 totally unrelated anime and fused it to make an epic saga.
@NaglfarCommando
4 жыл бұрын
About time you caught up. This was my first anime as a 2 year old.. has always been there. edit - Macross Plus and Zero are worth their own videos as well if you havent watched them.
@Gunsight-One
4 жыл бұрын
Don't forget Frontier.
@DJRonnieG
3 жыл бұрын
I literally discovered the subtitled OG Macross series last week and am having a blast.
@Castlevanius
3 жыл бұрын
Your DeCulture lvl has risen exponentially!
@DJRonnieG
3 жыл бұрын
@@Castlevanius since this comment, I've watched all all of 'Macross 7', Frontier, and Delta. Also saw Plus, and am just getting started on Zero. I really like the 90s Anime vibe of Macross 7 and don't mind Planet Dance like the channel op 'You can't unwatch it'. He hates it, but that's a other story.
@Castlevanius
3 жыл бұрын
@@DJRonnieGM7 is an acquired taste... some like it some dont which is fine. Being a J-rock fan that i am, one cant deny the musical prowess of Basaras (singing VA) Yoshiki Fukuyama. Remember 16 & Submarine Street (and of course) Angel Voice (duet with Mari Iijima/Minmay) is my absolute fave music from M7.
@Castlevanius
3 жыл бұрын
@@DJRonnieG kzitem.info/news/bejne/s5CatmijnKN4eYI both Basara & Mylnes (singing VA) tribute concert if you havent watched it.
@DJRonnieG
3 жыл бұрын
@@Castlevanius Oh man, what a treat! Thanks for sharing the link to the concert. More or less made my weekend. Well,. aside from the fact that I got a great deal on an used i9 CPU. Actually nah, the Macross 7 set wins..
@gamerfan1135
2 жыл бұрын
"Wow I have no soul"- some guy
@devinwilliams953
4 жыл бұрын
Weird timing, I started watching it last week
@kevinlockhart4393
4 жыл бұрын
Only knew of the series due to Robotech: Battlecry on the original Xbox as a kid. Rediscovered it and watch Do You Remember Love and loved it ever since.
@barrybend7189
4 жыл бұрын
Robotech Battlecry is how i got into Macross. But i hate how terrible the game is.
@christopherdavis3424
4 жыл бұрын
I’ve been meaning to checking out Robotech for years, but haven’t gotten around to it yet. Might do it soon after watching this video. I have seen the Macross Plus OVA though (own it on DVD too) and it’s one of my favorite anime OVA’s I’ve ever seen.
@Gunsight-One
4 жыл бұрын
Personally I would recommend you watch Macross first. There is an English dub out there you might be able to find if you dig online.
@jesseguajardo8592
4 жыл бұрын
Dear BOOFIRE191 I can't believe you made video on my favorite childhood series from Cartoon Network. This series was one of the first mecha series I've seen. Coming home after school I would tone in to Robotech. Now to answer you question as to why Harmony Gold made Robotech by combining three different anime series. Then look no farther than Turner Broadcast. Turner Broadcast made a requirements for animes to be shown on their television network, and one of them was to have a 100 plus episode count. Sadly most animes didn't have the 100+ espisode under their respected series. Which is why we so few anime series like Dragon Ball, Sailor Moon, and Gundam were shown on Cartoon Network Cartoon Power Hour which later became the Toonami block. Because of this Harmony Gold had a hard time looking for anime title to dub. They looked at Macross & Southern Cross along with a third anime, and made one series out of it. For better or worse. Oddly enough they never broadcasted the other two chapters of the Robotech series on cartoon network during the 90's. They only showed the Macross chapter during the mid to late 90's that is until Tom from Toonami came along and replace the old guard of Robotech with the vanguard of Gundam Wing, Endless Waltz, Mobile Suit Gundam, and G Gundam. As a personal note I didn't the next chapters of Robotech until the summer 2011, and the movie special that takes place between Chapters 1 and 2 until 2013 when I found a DVD copy at my town Comic Con for 5 bucks. Now there is a 4th chapter that takes place right after the 3rd chapter to which I've only seen parts of it on KZitem. Now there a Play Station 2 game called Robotech Battlecry and goes over the story of Jack Archer and his team the Wolf Squadron. If you recall from the first two episodes both the Skull & Wolf squadron were deploy. Which makes game a part of the cannon Lore of the Macross chapter of Robotech. Plus it has the added bonus of having the original voice actors from the show to voice their characters in the game. Alone with interviews from the casts which were unlocked after finishing the game. Now you may think I only seen care about Robotech, but I also watched the Macross movie do you remember love, Macross plus, and another Macross i can remember series title since it was aired of Starz channel back in 2005 late at night.
@gravefox4206
4 жыл бұрын
the real credit should go to Carl Marck he was the one who was able to bring those 3 animes together. as for why they never brodcast the 3 part of robotech on toonami its a bit of a mystery. they did air it druing toonamis mecha madness thing a few years later. some ppl state its cause the 3rd arc was too dark but i call BS cause lets face it the masters saga was dark af and even ended on a dark ending.
@jesseguajardo8592
4 жыл бұрын
@@gravefox4206 You may have a point there. Chapter 3 did have a darker tone, and Chapter 2 ending was just sad. However if I had to guest what cause CN not to broadcast Chapter 2 & 3 it may have been the nudity. Maybe
@BFjordsman
4 жыл бұрын
i had to run home from JR high in 86' just to watch the opening of robotech, the music got me so pumped
@blackdragonfighter5144
4 жыл бұрын
Robotech was my introduction to anime. a few years later I watched macross subbed and was quite happy to have seen both.
@DeusExMau5
3 жыл бұрын
a ship pushing a ship with another ship... *You son of bitch, I'm in*
@nerva-
15 күн бұрын
I thought the "remastered" Robotech 5.1 audio mix sucked - they stuffed a bunch of modern, synthesized audio samples into it that weren't up to par compared to the far superior analog sound effects in the original Macross and Robotech. This sort of thing happened far-too-often in DVD and Bluray releases, where the studio tries adding lame "features" to the source material they hope will boost sales. The worst is when they freaking CROP 4:3 aspect-ratio TV material to 16:9 HD and mess up the artists' composition of the animation - it's even more absurd when you consider the material was originally produced to be shown on 27" analog TV's but they're worried it won't look good enough if it doesn't fill every inch of the screen of a modern 65" HDTV???
@nerva-
15 күн бұрын
I watched Robotech when it first aired and have rewatched it and other Macross stuff countless times, but it wasn't until you referred to "UN Spacy" as a "delightful name" that I put aside the decades-old assumption it was just a case of the Japanese not knowing how to to spell in English and it suddenly occurred to me that "Spacy" is a just a new word they made by combining "Space" and "Navy", LOL.
@dancingvalkyrie
4 жыл бұрын
It's pronounced "MAH-CROSS". Also Robotech sucks because it adds so much extra dialogue and narration that's really distracting during quiet scenes. The Robotech soundtrack is also garbage compared to the original Macross soundtrack, especially when it comes to the Minmay songs.
@johnsonartman8049
4 жыл бұрын
I'm so glad this series is getting more recognition! It's my all time favorite!
@mikemartin2360
4 ай бұрын
Macross SDF1 is cool, Robotech is cool, just Harmony Gold and their ridiculous legal shenanigans are what’s letting it down 👎 Booo! Harmony Gold!!
@BladeLigerV
2 жыл бұрын
I like Macros. I don't dislike Robotech. I HATE Harmony Gold. STOP FUCKING WITH BATTLETECH!
@Sunnyboy-ob4xz
4 жыл бұрын
Couple years ago my mom asked me to find this "cartoon" about an idol on a spaceship with fighters that have legs, said it was something she used to watch in middle school but couldn' remember the name, and that's how I came to discover Macross. I didn't think I would like it at first, as a die hard gundam fan I thought the mecha designed looked a bit silly, I didn't understand why would anyone put a pair of legs on a fighter untill I saw them being used mid-flight for a sharp turn and suddenly it felt like the sickest thing ever lol. Eventually the design grew on me and so did the show.
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