Maybe an aspiration for some, but that’s really general. We only get a peek of WASP culture, and we definitely don’t have enough stories on people surrounding this culture. It doesn’t tell a whole story about the minorities during that time...but that’s not what this story’s about I guess.
@midwestsneakerhead234
2 жыл бұрын
White anglo Saxon protestant
@lycurgus1036
2 ай бұрын
As somebody from a succesful WASP family, the "secret handshake" is nonsense.
@Twestliw
Ай бұрын
This was more figuratively than literally
@serniebanders2858
Жыл бұрын
They built America, the America that the whole world wanted to come to, but due to their complacency and lost of vigor, America is a shell of what it used to be. I suggest you read the book“ WASP, the misery and splendor of the American aristocracy “ by Knox Beran.
@martinsanchez4827
2 жыл бұрын
Quite ironic that he talks about the "secret handshake" implying that their is a plethora of WASP's in Ivy league schools, yet when you look at it properly it's his ethnic group which amounts to minimum 20% of Ivy league schools.
@reaper88.
2 жыл бұрын
The small hats know how to keep themselves well guarded through effective wordplay to prevent criticism and chastisation.
@martinsanchez4827
2 жыл бұрын
@@reaper88. you're right, unfortunately WASP's sold out to them. Just look at the rhetoric and ideology today nearly all can be blamed to them. I don't see America recovery unless a huge civil/culture war broke out.
@mynameisrandy
5 жыл бұрын
Very disappointing to see this. The data makes it very clear that there is more economic mobility in *most* other OECD countries than there is in the United States. This is not conjecture. This is cold hard fact. Mad Men is brilliant, and I have a lot of respect for Weiner as a writer, but he's simply wrong here. He should look at the data before making these types of claims.
@fredmuller8632
6 жыл бұрын
Not a wasp but always respected them wish they still ran American
@83reggieT
6 жыл бұрын
Fred Muller America? They still do by the way.
@wolfstar675
5 жыл бұрын
They still run America Lol
@reaper88.
3 жыл бұрын
@@wolfstar675 No they don't. The small hats do. The WASPs sold out to them.
@ageofechochambers9469
3 жыл бұрын
They still do through the 6,000,000 freemasons located in every court , hospital, and police station. They only got a makeover
@etch1420
3 жыл бұрын
@@ageofechochambers9469 facts
@quarterlore6272
Жыл бұрын
This was already outdated when he said it
@richrent
6 жыл бұрын
Whatever anyone is thinking a Syrian Orphan changed everything about how we look at the world. WASP or not Matthew Wiener is behind in what he views as the repetitive future but right in his assessment in the present day culture. There are always game changers. No one saw the Syrian Orphan Steve Paul Jobs the son of an automobile enthusiast maybe a repo man, change the world outside in then outside again. As long as we have people like Wiener who has a myopic view of what the world will become, the demand for out of the box thinkers is in short supply. Thanks Matt
@richrent
3 жыл бұрын
@E. W. first thanks for the reply it is very much appreciated. I re-watched the clip again and re-read my comments except for a few typos, I stand by them. I would need a little more from you to understand your reply-I am a little slow. Matt's perspective comes from an observer's point of view. He is spot on about the aspiration for WASP culture or the attainment of it. Matt like me is of the Gen' xer viewpoint. Younger people see us as antiquated in our dissemination rate for processing information. Also remember he is a writer. For example I used to think about a certain subject and then by a fluke of nature I became involved in it. My perspective changed greatly not only about people but about the subject. [revealing the subject itself is not essential at least for the reply]. People in a sense are still egocentric. When you understand what it is they do for a living or hobby [you win the lottery if its both] the egocentricity is easily explained. 2 years ago something things have changed for me luckily my opinion has not on this matter. I do want to understand what your reply stems from.
@richrent
3 жыл бұрын
@E. W. Agreed but I never said he was great, I will clarify that Jobs changed the course or trajectory along with other innovators. Steven Jobs actually had a terrible relationship with a substantial amount of his co-workers. Steven Jobs was a great innovator or could recognize something the consumer would anticipate, great man no definitely not. No one person is great or a hero. People can be great at what they do, I can accept that. If you picked a great baseball player [statistically speaking] would you still call him great if he did not see things the same way as yourself? David Lean, a great film director who did Lawrence of Arabia had a very acrimonious relationship with Alec Guinness. He chose Alec cause he was great at his job as an actor not because he liked him. By the way Matt Weiner said if he had not been working on the Sopranos Mad Men would turned out terrible. Again I want to point out I edited "out of the box thinkers is in short supply". Yes there is a cultist mentality but if they [the tech crowd] had to solve a problem that was a real threat, I think the least of their concern was the political spectrum of where this problem solver comes from. [Trust me I witnessed this first hand]. Matt Weiner is a great television writer and creator, first person I would hire even if he slants one way. Just like Vince Gilligan from Breaking Bad.
@richrent
3 жыл бұрын
@E. W. you win I am a complete clown
@mark1952able
4 жыл бұрын
Reality
@Maria-oh1nq
6 ай бұрын
Now ppl want to be a champage papi 😂😂😂
@philipdraper7284
11 ай бұрын
Ridiculous commentary. What’s aspirational is not “WASP” but a prioritization of future preference resources, ie: middle class values….they make everything about race, it’s twisted and ridiculous nonsense from university liberal arts indoctrination. But it is neither culturally nor historically accurate. People are so emotionally invested in the topics of race and gender though in the current age that it’s truly in one ear and out the other….study cultures across the globe from 1850s through to the end of the 20th century for a FULL picture.
@audience2
9 жыл бұрын
He clearly didn't understand Thomas Piketty's book.
@closer71
6 жыл бұрын
But he understood Paul Fussell's...
@PeterZeeke
3 жыл бұрын
@@closer71 I don’t understand…
@closer71
3 жыл бұрын
@@PeterZeeke There’s a famous book written in the late-60s by Paul Fussell - former chair of the English department at the University of Pennsylvania - called CASTE MARKS in which he details exactly how social class works in the American social hierarchy. It was republished in 1980 as “Class: A Guide to America’s Status System. It’s available on Amazon. Although the style is distinctly tongue-in-cheek, the information he puts forth is absolutely 100% accurate and his theory of the Nine (9) social classes is considered foundational to modern social sciences in N. America as it is distinctly different from the class structures of Western Europe.
@PeterZeeke
3 жыл бұрын
@@closer71 thankyou!
@TomG1990
3 жыл бұрын
I've never wanted to be a WASP. I never even met one until I was college and my American Lit professor was agast that nobody in the room had been yachting. Keep the yacht. My people have an ACTUAL culture.
@EriPages
3 жыл бұрын
Who are your people?
@TomG1990
3 жыл бұрын
@@EriPages Southern Italian, mostly. Some Russian, German and Irish. From Brooklyn, from New Jersey. Very working class and proud of that.
@PeterZeeke
3 жыл бұрын
I think he’s talking subconsciously. And by wasp he means the economically dominant stable and least oppressed group in the world, it’s the perception of white privilege really. Either that or he’s a psychopath
@martinsanchez4827
2 жыл бұрын
So WASP's don't have culture now? Ignorant comment
@TomG1990
2 жыл бұрын
@@martinsanchez4827 Their culture is entirely about status and being accepted by a particular group. Other than inherited privilege and a repeating cycle of social occasions, they have nothing else. No food, no music, no religion, no collective trauma or glory. Nothing.
@bleepbloop9123
Жыл бұрын
man is he smart
@etch1420
2 жыл бұрын
205🏳️🌈
@colmanoconnell964
3 жыл бұрын
Yeah I would rather be anything else than a wasp. Content Irish Catholic.
@prodigiii712
2 жыл бұрын
as soon as you get rich you would copy. He is not saying that you want to be genetically or religiously WASP but culturally and socially.
@stacyjpoliticscommunityfai359
6 жыл бұрын
I'M A BLACK WOMAN THAT LIKES RALPH LAUREN CLOTHES, PULITZER, AND BROOKS BROTHERS....BUT I WANT TO BE ACCEPTED AS A BLACK WOMAN IN THOSE LABELS....BECAUSE I HAVE JUST AS MANY AFRICAN INSPIRED GARB IN MY CLOSET TOO....AND BAMBOO EARRINGS, AND HEADWRAPS......I DON'T ASPIRE TO BE A WASP....SO THAT IS NOT CORRECT ABOUT ALL AMERICANS....IF ANYTHING ITS AFRICAN OR AFRICAN-AMERICAN CULTURE THAT'S THE MOST APPROPRIATED CULTURE NOT WASP.
@jprime007
3 жыл бұрын
@XvX XvX ....she said African -American culture, not African culture. There's a difference, keep up.
@thecitizenjoan
3 жыл бұрын
@@steve19811 So theres many who a aspire to be a black woman. Every person in the world wants to be Oprah and have her billions So clearly you’re wrong and the aspiration to achieve the status of a black woman does exist. Now we have Kamala Harris who is the Vice President of the United States. As a white man you really obviously wouldn’t aspire to be a black woman unless you’re Gay so you’re comment actually makes no sense and is pointless. Get with the times.
@steve19811
3 жыл бұрын
As long as white people can wear dreads and other clothing typically thought to be traditionally African then I have no problem with everyone appreciating and borrowing from one another. It always should go both ways.
@EriPages
3 жыл бұрын
Relax. Breath. Calm down. Speak with thought, not emotion. If that's even possible for a woman.
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