This show in directly on target for the era it represents, it was truly a "man"s world" back then, and girls like Peggy got eatten up and spat out unless they were smart, and took care of business, and everyone smoked back then, didgusting in the exam room, can you believe that !!
@sadem1045
2 жыл бұрын
I love that he just starts smoking in the exam room. From what my mom told me about her pediatrician I can tell the smoking part of the scene was very accurate.
@sejahani
6 жыл бұрын
the way every gynecologist treats you in my country, if you have premarital sex , it was so humiliating, I'll never forget that
@lanaofficiel4042
2 ай бұрын
You must be from the Middle East. I'm too familiar with that world and I know that's how Doctors there treat single girls who want to have sex before marriage.
@julieerin115
6 жыл бұрын
10 years later she wouldn't have tolerated that gynecologist.
@PioneerGrrrl
5 жыл бұрын
He should be smacked
@darbyheavey406
5 ай бұрын
No the physician would just put her on a powerful hormone that alters her endocrine function.
@anacrobat89
14 жыл бұрын
I'd hard to believe how many posters here miss the whole point of this scene. This is a portrayal of a gynecologist visit in 1960, which is the year this show's first season is based on. The whole idea is that it was a man's world back then and it attempts to show you just how far we've come. Just about everything in this show is quite accurate to what it was like in the early 60's in the US. There's a reason it's won so many awards.
@sitdowndogbreath
3 жыл бұрын
How far are we from actually how far we have fallen
@dannygjk
Жыл бұрын
@@sitdowndogbreath Depends on the persons point of view. There is always someone holier-than-thou.
@maddyk94
11 жыл бұрын
i think it was kind of critical to the scene she be in this position, so to demonstrate just how vile and creepy this doctor was; and how he abused his power when he threatened to take her off the pill if she became too 'promiscuous' for his liking. setting the scene is everything
@sheeplesheep9379
3 жыл бұрын
how would he even know if she became too promiscuous ?
@robinorlowski9045
2 жыл бұрын
@@sheeplesheep9379 that's what I was thinking. the guys in the city weren't going to report back to him what was happening.
@Janellabelle
11 ай бұрын
This is a creepy doctor. But all the doctors were like this then. Joan even sent her to this doctor because he was more liberal about prescribing BC. I remember in 2007 i went to have a procedure done and i was 18 but when the doctor helped me off the table after this extremely painful procedure he said, something like "youll be okay little girl". I just remember "little girl" very clearly because at 18 i considered myself a woman doing something a lot of women have to do so as i drove home i couldnt get that comment out of my head. Now, I think he just didnt like to see such a young woman getting this procedure. That was my impression from what he said...and that was in 2007. Times have come a long way since this though. This is a disturbing conversation, and Joan considered him one of the better ones. Just goes to show how bad it was then. Those poor women. My grandmother....my mother 15 years later...😢 oh and my grandmother? Had to have a written note from her husband allowing her to get it after she already had given birth to 2 girls and a boy. This wasn't my grandfather's rule. He w a nted her to get it if she didnt want anymore children. She'd already gave him the prodigal son and two beautiful girls. this was the doctor's twisted rule. MEMPHIS, TN 1967.
@monicabee
15 жыл бұрын
yeah that was the reason i put the video up. it was so shocking the things doctors to say back then. if someone even tried that now, he'd get fired in a minute.
@joiamed8544
4 жыл бұрын
So crappy!
@xvoy2002
12 жыл бұрын
Funny how the doctor is smoking. But oddly enough, i remember being ina doctors office in the 70s and the doctor was smoking while he was going over a report. Even at that time i thought "what's up with that?"
@newbestofthis4422
Ай бұрын
Hahaha I hope you're still alive.
@briarjensen2123
3 ай бұрын
Ive been thinking about this scene for years
@ebonyruffles
6 жыл бұрын
Don't turn into the town pump just to get your moneys worth. One of the best lines in the entire series, lol.
@princesslulu5795
6 жыл бұрын
ebonyruffles hahah. Interesting fact: $11 in 1960 was actually a lot of money. Adjusted for inflation $11 in 1960 had the same buying power as over $90
@sitdowndogbreath
3 жыл бұрын
I had the girlfriend New England she doesn't trust me taking her on the boat but she wanted me to nut inside her so every time we went on a date she used to pay $60 to get the Depo Provera shot so every time we have sex it will cost her $60 I told her get your money's worth let's do it everyday for the next 3 months she was stupid
@palabrajot505
3 жыл бұрын
The term was passed on from series to series, first on Northern Exposure, where it was picked up by David Chase, who used it on The Sopranos, where it was picked up by Matthew Weiner... It's like a hot potato of great TV lines.
@reptilezsweden
15 жыл бұрын
All you who complains about the "smalltalk" being offensive and the smoking doctor and so on. Maybe you should take in mind that this series takes place in the early 60's. The doctors and the society in general was a bit different then. Considering a single woman who's getting birth control, I think this doctor is probably played as pretty nice.
@dchartier1
2 жыл бұрын
I agree one hundred percent. Dr. Emerson was just looking out for her.
@user-pj9qc2cs7p
4 ай бұрын
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@MysonEggAndHisbrotherCheese
2 ай бұрын
He wasn't nice at all, still bossed her, judged her under the name of "warning" while he was perfectly ok single men having sex, living in 60's doesn't make you automalically asshole like him, he is just typical egoistic, sexist doctor who do what he want instead of only making his job without comments
@paigemontague4022
5 жыл бұрын
It's horrible to watch this. I'm so upset that some gynaecologists still treat their patients like this. He said she could only be on the pill under certain conditions and it is under his control, which is very untrue. Any woman who wants to be on the pill (or use any contraception) can go on it.
@Egilhelmson
3 жыл бұрын
> Any woman […] can go on it. Then? The Pill was still prescribed, not over-the-counter, back then. In fact, there were no single chemical prescriptions, as far as I remember. Those were later in the decade.
@krystlemurphy8514
2 жыл бұрын
@@Egilhelmson it’s still prescribed now
@princesslulu5795
6 жыл бұрын
$11 in 1960 had the same buying power as $92.24 in 2018
@drbonesshow1
10 ай бұрын
As the joke goes: If I wasn't a physics professor - I'd probably be a gynecologist.
@4LO4LO
15 жыл бұрын
Heather, some types of latex are naturally brown. They probably are clean gloves.
@gigimc
14 жыл бұрын
omg -- don't you guys understand the scene/show? I *just* began watching it online this past Wed, and from the second he picked those gloves up, I knew they were trying to illustrate they've been used before & were probably soiled... the whole scene was to set to make us feel repulsed & put-off... duh? Peggy is, in an abstract way, us -- as is Don
@misskrissxoxo
15 жыл бұрын
I never seen this episode, i actually missed alot of the first season. but i can't believe he would say that to her, nowadays everyone teen girl is on the pill.
@Faithfullfertilitytv
Жыл бұрын
Everyone teen girl? Education not contraception
@Nicecatholicgirl
13 жыл бұрын
I had my first pelvic when I was 16. It was so awful I didn't go again until I was 22 or 23 and the pain was so bad I couldn't work.
@sheeplesheep9379
3 жыл бұрын
it was probably the pap smear that caused the pain,, you can refuse those god awful pap smears,,,the doctors like to do the pap smears along with the pelvic exam,, you just have to say no pap smear,,,,the pelvic exam and the pap are 2 different things
@RedogOnyx
15 жыл бұрын
OK, please feel free to Google about the class action lawsuit bought up against Bayer about Yaz. 27 women have died as a result of Yaz and many others have fallen very ill
@Reticence9zen924
7 жыл бұрын
Yaz is a disgusting pill.
@sitdowndogbreath
3 жыл бұрын
So is seasonique
@RedogOnyx
15 жыл бұрын
Tell that to the 2 women I know that were sexually assulted by gynos.
@ChuckyJesus666
12 жыл бұрын
Ahhhh the 1950's...when you were free to get cancer by second hand smoke just anywhere!
@Faithfullfertilitytv
Жыл бұрын
Women can be offensive too. A female gyno told me one day I will find Mr. Right when I told her I was still a virgin in my 20’s. I could’ve gotten her fired.
@Walldo
12 жыл бұрын
Rush Limbaugh makes this shit look forward-thinking
@CarlyMK95
14 жыл бұрын
Ahh the 50's/60's Best years of American history. Lololol.
@HelloThere-jr6gd
3 жыл бұрын
People were the happiest in the 50s and 60s. That is an actual fact.
@MysonEggAndHisbrotherCheese
2 ай бұрын
@HelloThere-jr6gd not people but rich and asshole men, sure bud let's get you to bed
@xvoy2002
12 жыл бұрын
Interesting perspective on the world. Nice post.
@sorenti
14 жыл бұрын
lol you never noticed it takes place 50 years ago? the materials they could use back then were simply so different
@blaira1865
10 ай бұрын
Except for the smoking, trips to the gynecologist today in certain areas of the US still go down like this. SMH
@JosephSchneider26
8 ай бұрын
My f*ing god, the *scene* is creepy *to us* because we as 21st century people are watching it. For Peggy it was surely unpleasant, as every intimate examination is. Peggy was sent there by Joan because this doctor is more liberal than others. The doctor *is aware of that* and thus tries to protect his reputation. If all his patients went out there and smashed like crazy, people would call him a pimp or a "w**re doctor" or something. So no - he isn't really trying to control her individual life. He might wanna protect her from the obvious dangers of hyper-promiscuity that will probably never go away (like... being alone with a psychopath), but most of all he his drawing a line. He is liberal - but he doesn't support everything.
@Vydio
3 ай бұрын
For the time this scene was probably accurate. Plenty of doctors wouldn't even give single girls contraceptive pills.
@3pj98
14 жыл бұрын
I think you'll find this is a fictional TV drama. It doesn't do much to tell you about real clinical practice. The people in it aren't real, and drawing generalisations about particular groups from their representation in TV shows is not good practice. If anyone believes themselves to have been the object of an assault, sexual or otherwise, by a member of the medical profession then they should report it to the police and to the relevant governing body; for example, here in the UK, the BMA.
@RedogOnyx
15 жыл бұрын
I like the fact I get minus ratings for this comment. I guess your doctor is "so awesome" and you can't wait to go all the time
@McPierogiPazza
13 жыл бұрын
@PaulineWalters I had my first pelvic by a male doctor and no one else present in 1987. That's how it used to be. Smoking too, but before my time. This isn't just TV, it's the world before feminism changed things. The episode showing Betty giving birth was exactly how my mom and women her age described it to me as well. Pretty awful.
@utubersf
15 жыл бұрын
I lived in the 60's and I never got treated that way, nor did any doctor or nurse smoke in the examining room. I think the acting was good, the direction wasn't.
@kaitlynjennings
3 жыл бұрын
My grandfather was a doctor during this time period and he smoked in patient rooms :/
@somethingswicked
14 жыл бұрын
I would have kicked his face in if he talked to me like that. He would've lost a few teeth at the strumpet line. This scene alone goes to prove how amazingly spot on Mad Men portrays the 1960s.
@robinorlowski9045
2 жыл бұрын
I would have clapped you doing that
@zhabakrek
13 жыл бұрын
how come she got pregnant later if she was on birth control?
@keithnoble5988
7 жыл бұрын
zhabakrek the spermie snock a round the corner and went in
@sitdowndogbreath
3 жыл бұрын
That stuff is like $90 a month she must have had a gap insurance did not cover birth control pills back in those days only devices so maybe one month she went without and that's when she got pregnant
@princessash032587
Жыл бұрын
They don’t make you wear gowns like that only ones that open in the front lol
@robinorlowski2449
8 ай бұрын
my mom said that the gyn did not regularly check for early stage breast cancer. They just removed the entire breast if/when it did show up....other way it is different.
@princessash032587
8 ай бұрын
@@robinorlowski2449 oh I got a lumpectomy at 32 from a benign tumor rapidly growing and then my gyn checked me 2 years ago and he found a huge cyst I got it drained too
@kajendrabalanbalan902
5 жыл бұрын
Personal opinion: Males shouldn’t be gynecologists.
@tmo4330
4 жыл бұрын
male gynacologist will burn in hell
@VietNguyen-sm4dw
4 жыл бұрын
This is just a movie clip. Your comment is way out of line. Male or female OBs /GYNs are all professionals. Can't judge doctors just based on their gender. My wife has a male gynecologist and he's extremely professional. Since a young age I always have female primary care doctors and they are all professionals too.
@tmo4330
4 жыл бұрын
That's only your opinion. What man in his right mind would ever give his wife permission to spread her legs for another man? What woman would ever want to show a man (other than her husband) her sacred parts?
@cathyb2967
4 жыл бұрын
T mo Youre an ldiot .
@cathyb2967
4 жыл бұрын
kajendra balan Balan Get real .
@user-of9rr7tc3g
Ай бұрын
Что это?
@whydid666
15 жыл бұрын
Well even today many men are gynecologists it's simply a profession and they think nothing sexual about it, then again many more gyno's are women because many women are doctors today. Also I've had female doctor examine....my male parts and well she is a doctor their is nothing more to it.
@jessicavictoriacarrillo7254
9 жыл бұрын
Uggggh I heard they can still talk to you like this Also how did Peggy manage to tie everything we see?
@Reticence9zen924
7 жыл бұрын
Tie what, do you mean?
@jessicavictoriacarrillo7254
7 жыл бұрын
Her gown.
@Pureimagination200
14 жыл бұрын
he slept with joan
@monicabee
15 жыл бұрын
in 1960?
@sheeplesheep9379
3 жыл бұрын
How do you abuse birth control, ?
@donnydonadio1185
9 жыл бұрын
Sickening.
@xvoy2002
12 жыл бұрын
One thing IS missing here... even back then a doctor would'nt be doing an exam without a nurse present.
@TinyDancer250
6 жыл бұрын
Bart Logan Back then, I think they did. People weren't suing left and right.
@PioneerGrrrl
5 жыл бұрын
I don't think they had to be present back then.
@princessash032587
Жыл бұрын
Mine doesn’t have one it’s up to me
@salaamallah
7 жыл бұрын
i am always with my wife in the exam room this we do together
@Reticence9zen924
7 жыл бұрын
Wonderful. :)
@lauracoates4379
6 жыл бұрын
You sound very controversial
@foefeebunny3961
6 жыл бұрын
Salaam Allah that's very kind of you. #RelationshipGoal
@anywaythewindblows8912
5 жыл бұрын
Laura Coates yea I bet it’s date night for them 😂
@jackiebrown6162
5 жыл бұрын
Why
@TinyDancer250
6 жыл бұрын
If she was on the pill, how did she later get preggers with Pete's son?
@princessjorgeiniecopalacio5026
6 жыл бұрын
sow not sex yuck goodbye
@princesslulu5795
6 жыл бұрын
Laughing Lark it either failed or she took them incorrectly,, like forgetting them, stopped taking them, taking them the wrong times, etc
@sitdowndogbreath
3 жыл бұрын
@@princesslulu5795 she forgot to refill
@Egilhelmson
3 жыл бұрын
@@sitdowndogbreath No one “forgets to refill”. If it was $96 per month in today’s money, with no insurance drug plan coverage, it was too expensive at some point.
@adria138
14 жыл бұрын
@gunsnforever yeah, I think the same about female docs.. To be honest, of course I didn´t met every single one of them, so it´s subjective.. Me female-doc was this kind. I prefer also male gynecolog
@sheeplesheep9379
3 жыл бұрын
why do you prefer male gyns ?
@tucsonia
13 жыл бұрын
@SWEETasaNUTmateSWEET When I was a tyke in the late 60s/early 70s I remember my family's GP used to smoke in the exam room too, and apparently my mom never complained or seemed to think anything about it. Oh how times have changed.
@somethingswicked
13 жыл бұрын
@Armornone oooo sounds like fun. You need some action that doesn't involve f-ing it off on youtube.
@magoogam2
3 жыл бұрын
He's right.
@alanmiller8887
Ай бұрын
What a boring job ! I'm glad I studied Engineering !.....
@anacrobat89
13 жыл бұрын
@manriquebuk She wanted to get checked out and get birth control pills.
@ananse77
13 жыл бұрын
Why would ANYONE, especially any man, choose to be a gyno. Crazy.
@midnightmagic800
6 жыл бұрын
To make sure they don't get a disease or something
@mohammadisamario1988
6 жыл бұрын
natalie portman's dad
@AN-vy4hv
5 жыл бұрын
My exact same thought, I think they are just pervs. I hate them
@AN-vy4hv
5 жыл бұрын
@@nathanielharry2639 shut up bitch
@tmo4330
4 жыл бұрын
@@AN-vy4hv They are perverts. A woman would be trashy to see a male gyn. What would her husband think?
@Digmer
3 жыл бұрын
Yeah so responsable...
@belbird69
14 жыл бұрын
@abscondi69 Also 1960 was the year the pill was introduced, so I guess they were taking all precautions
@Kazikox
14 жыл бұрын
You people a mad. Really. Did you watch the same scene as I did?
@imperial901
12 жыл бұрын
agreed, same standard should be applied to men.
@monicabee
15 жыл бұрын
i don't see why not. that's like saying male doctors shouldn't see female patients at all if it involves the woman getting undressed (no surgery, no general practice, no obstetricians...)
@RedogOnyx
15 жыл бұрын
One of the sexuall assults was by a woman doctor. should be any gynos, period
@sheeplesheep9379
3 жыл бұрын
pelvic exams were designed to groom women into getting use to being sexually assaulted
@RedogOnyx
15 жыл бұрын
Very true money over health, very bad
@goldendyme8506
12 жыл бұрын
$11 a month damn lol.
@anywaythewindblows8912
5 жыл бұрын
Shari Craig that’s the 60s for you
@psims77
14 жыл бұрын
why do they not wear shoes when they do this.
@henndri
14 жыл бұрын
Wah ini hanyalah sebuah film yang jauh berbeda dengan kondisi aslinya jika berada di ruang periksa ginekolog
@EmeraldSky33
13 жыл бұрын
@lovesbroadway1 Yeah, it is, but modern gynos aren't rude like that.
@MayILearnEverything
11 жыл бұрын
No, society teaches us the difference between good and bad.
@biba1234567aaaaaaa
15 жыл бұрын
I am afraid to go to female gun because I 've heard they are less delicate than male doctors. What do you think?
@atozinco
15 жыл бұрын
I know. But there wasn't much choice back then, most doctors were guys
@Sansash01202
14 жыл бұрын
Sorry, you've lost me now .. you'll have to talk to yourself .. this subject doesn't mean enough to me to argue over it with weirdos :))))
@marielaberge8236
11 жыл бұрын
What did you want the scene to be? She wanted pills, she needed the gynecologist. There aren't a million other things she could have done in a gynecologist's exam room. And if anyone is going to be offended I would think it would be the actress and since she did it on national TV, I don't think she minded at all. You read too much into this. It happens to women everyday and everyone knows it. It's people who have hang ups like yours that create taboos.
@davidm.oliveira2107
7 жыл бұрын
marie laberge. Add no zap +55 91 98439-1479
@TwelvetreeZ
5 жыл бұрын
It's realistic, sure, but it's meant to show how poor attitudes were back then. What offends me is that, in many parts of the world, these attitudes still exist. Just because it happens every day doesn't mean it should
@alonzo9772
10 жыл бұрын
Republicans want it to go back to this where you have to ask a doctor everytime you want the morning after pill.
@jimmyrowe3915
7 жыл бұрын
Julian
@johnparedes7216
7 жыл бұрын
Jimmy Rowe it's its for the most important part in your business to get its
@RavenFeathers90
6 жыл бұрын
And democrats have been pressuring women into the work force with some liberal agenda. Women are statistically more miserable than they ever were.
@fbksfrank4
6 жыл бұрын
Julian how about doing as much as you can before, so you won't need the morning after pill.
@3109C
6 жыл бұрын
You're an idiot
@ficklefun
14 жыл бұрын
@gremlin05 Are you serious right now? That's funny because I wasn't aware that it was a woman's objective in life to find a husband.
@sitdowndogbreath
3 жыл бұрын
No winding up in an SRO later on in life is so much better Rite fuck out of here with your feminism motion
@MissMeowsic
12 жыл бұрын
Not sure why all the discussion is about race and personal attacks below. It's a strange diversion from what this clip is really about. I believe the GOP and right wing conservatives would love to go back to a time where women were judged this harshly. I scares me that decades later, so many misogynists share this quack's POV.
@zx169
13 жыл бұрын
I think it was awesome back then
@Turtletoots3
15 жыл бұрын
still don't get how can someone be ok with her gynecologist being a dude
@beepandbop
14 жыл бұрын
@anacrobat89 except it isn't 100% accurate. Not even close. I know both men and women who grew up in the '60's, lived in the '60's and frankly they're unimpressed by the alleged "change." Has the world changed? Certainly. Has it changed as much as Mad Men would have you believe? Certainly not. The most massive period (forty years or so) of change in Western History was between the years 1880-1920.
@somethingswicked
13 жыл бұрын
@Armornone I could ask you the same, sweetheart. Aren't you a little too young to be even watching Mad Men?
@bebetigre12
12 жыл бұрын
TOO MUCH PRESURE BEHIND THE KNEES
@RedogOnyx
15 жыл бұрын
Read my other comments, then feel free to respond
@ananse77
12 жыл бұрын
Not sure who you're referring to here. "You people"??? Me and none of my people, i.e. my family and friends, have multiple babies. Anyhoo, don't let the media give you a skewed perception of Africa. I've been there, and its not all starving babies and disease. It's filled with ordinary people living their lives, including many ambitious young people striving for education & upward mobility. And believe me, most have no interest in begging...
@andrewlambert4934
7 жыл бұрын
and the point of this video is what??????
@martinfocken2660
7 жыл бұрын
UTeamDiscus u
@Reticence9zen924
7 жыл бұрын
The OP said it was interesting to share this 'Mad Men' clip to prove times have changed: nowadays most women from the start of puberty as teens are using the pill.
@lovetaylorswiftjm
6 жыл бұрын
I don't know 😵
@jennyoyster5054
6 жыл бұрын
Reticence9 and that’s sad asf!
@RLviddy
14 жыл бұрын
Jeez, what is with all the nastiness everywhere you go on the internet? Are people just furious all the time and looking for the slightest opportunity, no matter how paper thin, to snipe at complete strangers? And can we just leave women and men and gender politics alone? Can we focus on, oh, how about good health, good sociological progress, etc? JEEZ! Enough with the negativity!
@iwishyouwould1781
3 жыл бұрын
You know how to upset a snowflake, show them a scripted scene and convince them it's the real world..
@tamanyadav4140
6 жыл бұрын
Man can sleep with woman but can't treat.... why?
@ananse77
12 жыл бұрын
ctd. Views like yours are one unfortunate effect of the "charity" model of Africa pushed by people like Bono. Though well intentioned, they present this one dimensional & ultimately harmful view of the continent as a place of despair and lack, instead of as a place of opportunities for investment & entrepreneurship. Zambian economist Dambisa Moyo's written and spoken a lot about that. Anyway, I would prefer not to side track this comments section any more with an irrelevant "racial" discussion.
@crasherout
11 жыл бұрын
You do not strike me as a very bright individual. If shame evokes from within such actions, there is clearly something wrong. We are born with the knowledge of separating good from bad. You feel shame in accordance to doing something wrong. One would not feel ashamed for buying a car for an example, but one who stole it, would, especially when pointed out they are a thief. But please, don't take my word for it, ask around yourself. I shall say no more. I leave you to your thoughts.
@kendrahouston1774
6 жыл бұрын
I have a female GYN
@user-cj1hs6lv9i
6 жыл бұрын
Kendra Housto.
@ilovesillybands
13 жыл бұрын
any guys dream job
@sheeplesheep9379
3 жыл бұрын
pelvic exams were designed to groom women into getting use to being sexually assaulted
@ca280491
14 жыл бұрын
@CarlyIsAGangster not for everybody...
@Mrster
14 жыл бұрын
@annaleighclark Welcome to the 60's, doll! ^^
@yennao
6 жыл бұрын
Yenna
@hilmihilmi9166
5 жыл бұрын
vidio lagi
@imperial901
12 жыл бұрын
unless its more than 1 man...then it gets bad...
@ca280491
14 жыл бұрын
ok then :P
@007SPIDER007
13 жыл бұрын
someone should say the same thing to the ladies these days.
@annaleighclark
15 жыл бұрын
"Strumpet?" "Own good?" "Easy women?" I don't care what gender a gynecologist is, but its that chatty judgmentalism that is so gross.
@sitdowndogbreath
3 жыл бұрын
Well the way these are today they may not be far off the mark
@CarlyMK95
14 жыл бұрын
@ca280491 Well I was being sarcastic of course.
@pennydesouza
13 жыл бұрын
Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr...
@ambrosiaB1982
12 жыл бұрын
he talks too much!
@askintatlialma1384
11 жыл бұрын
annanse turkısh poeples love u or other black frıends
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