I may have missed some key info at the start but I was really happy with how fun this video ended being! Hope you enjoy the video and go check out voxy, all her stuff is in the description
@orbmaniac7645
Жыл бұрын
as a MTG player and a Ex hearthstone player i could tell that it still was a lot of misunderstandings, but the video was very entertaining! :)
@christopherlundgren1700
Жыл бұрын
The moment you said "I think that's pretty much it" I was like, you didn't explain the mana system or that a minion can attack other minions.
@theelectricant98
Жыл бұрын
@@christopherlundgren1700he did explain the mana right after that luckily!
@marknicklason
Жыл бұрын
As an mtg and hs player, here is what you might want to open with on these videos! -no direct interaction on opp turns -Gain 1 mana [land] each turn -Creatures health does not regen -draw 1 card per turn -1 Hero power available per turn, 2 mana minor effect -creatures can attack opp or other creatures, have summon sickness -30 health 30 cards -Fatigue draws instead of instantly dying -battlecry, deathrattle, taunt [creatures without etb effects are a liability in magic]
@Mrlonefighter
Жыл бұрын
A key point you probably should have mentioned for Loatheb. Creatures are considered spells in Magic, but not in Hearthstone. And yeah for Tar Creeper the fact that minions stay damaged after taking a hit. Also, I believe in Magic you can't specially chose to attack an opponents minion, so unless they decide to block with it, you can't chose to trade with it like you do in Hearthstone. And you pronounce G'huun (Geh-huun). Still a pretty fun video though! Always interesting to see how someone rate cards from a different perspective. She did pretty okay on the analysis I'd say, given the limited information she got :P
@VoxyTwitch
Жыл бұрын
This was SO MUCH FUN! Thanks for having me on! Sorry Patches 😅♥️
@griffingeiger9788
Жыл бұрын
Just remember that he's in chaaaaarge.
@kristianfagerstrom7011
Жыл бұрын
Rarran didn't show you the original pre-nerf Patches, that had charge (no summoning sickness). I think your assessment was pretty correct, It's just that Rarran absolutely loves Patches ;-)
@weenblizzard9780
Жыл бұрын
What I don't think Rarran mentioned is that patches is good because it's a completely free 1/1
@theelectricant98
Жыл бұрын
Such a fun collab!!😊
@Harakanis
Жыл бұрын
I mean, MTG has ragavan as a one drop, patches doesn't seem like much in comparison
@carloscarrizo5380
Жыл бұрын
Rarran forgeting to explain half of the game mechanics at the beginning has to be the most fun I had in a while
@Bandoolero
9 ай бұрын
He was stunned by something or someone
@maxydal3512
Жыл бұрын
Rarran did not just explain the differences between Hearthstone and Magic without mentioning that the attacker picks who blocks
@markos50100
Жыл бұрын
Or that damage is permanent
@felixeisenmenger1914
Жыл бұрын
I feel like we need a standardized text for these challenges, its so easy to miss stuff if you do these off the cuff (especially if you're only familiar with one card game).
@akorthouwer
Жыл бұрын
@@markos50100 to be fair he didnt even seem to be aware of damage not being permanent in mtg
@joshuahitchins1897
Жыл бұрын
Which makes tempo really really important, which makes Patches all the better.
@w415800
Жыл бұрын
That and the automatic healing, that's why MtG feels like a war campaign fought over days, whereas HS is a short duel between two people.
@th3115
Жыл бұрын
Watching a Hearthstone player explain the anatomy of a Hearthstone card is a little bit like watching a child explain something to an adult. Not bc Hearthstone is childish, but just because Magic is older and literally created the format Hearthstone cards are based on. "Does Magic have tribes?" is like hearing a kid ask her mom if they had phones when she was growing up. Edit: Also Voxy being shocked that a legendary is not necessarily more powerful than a common feels like hearing someone gush about seeing fireflies like they're super rare.
@DiabloTommaso
Жыл бұрын
I miss wow tcg.... a lot. Arguably the only game better than magic
@Nobodyfromnowhere42
Жыл бұрын
well technically our mothers didnt have cellphones when growing up, so...
@Hann61669
Жыл бұрын
Omg I wanted to say the same thing but you said so much better
@DanilegoPlays
Жыл бұрын
Wait, fireflies aren't super rare? I've never seen one where I live, I'd totally gush about it lol
@Hazaak.
Жыл бұрын
her being shocked that a legendary is not more powerful than a common is hilarious now that we have so many Ass legends in mtg
@onlygalactic1744
Жыл бұрын
Wild that a 1/1 pirate changed the whole meta for a few months I remember the good old 70% win rate warrior and abusing that. I recommend people that only play mtg to look up old patches warrior. It would come out turn 1 and then next turn you could deal like 10 damage in 1 turn because pirate warrior
@poppers7317
Жыл бұрын
you could say he was in charge of the meta
@AhmedHassan-lv6ld
Жыл бұрын
@@poppers7317 Yeah the door is over there
@LiraPride
Жыл бұрын
Well, but today he is so weak..
@samuelpoulin8148
Жыл бұрын
@@LiraPrideat the second the Word "pirate" is in a deck patches is there... so how can you say that? 😂
@IAteTheCake
Жыл бұрын
@@LiraPridePatches is run in EVERY competitive pirate deck in Wild. He is still very strong to this day.
@Taoru11
Жыл бұрын
"I don't know if Magic has tags" My streamer in christ MtG has like 5 billion tribes.
@baktru
Жыл бұрын
And I just spent a few minutes trying to remember what those things were around the time I stopped playing MtG. Slivers! Those were fun. For some value of fun.
@mathijnverkerk2420
Жыл бұрын
My streamer in christ
@kingspammeth8714
Жыл бұрын
@@baktru not me with full sliver tribal and playing totem shaman
@Uefeti
Жыл бұрын
Man. Magic even has some spells with Tribal Tags on them.
The analysis of Loatheb is really funny because in magic, the term "spell" refers to any non land card, loatheb would be a MUCH more powerful card in magic, as it would essentially lock your opponent out of playing anything next turn, creatures included. It's funny how you can both have an agreeable conversation about this card while not realizing this difference
@superjakeyo7559
10 ай бұрын
it would be a much weaker card in magic due to being able to interact on you’re opponents turn and the amount of tempo it generators coming too late for almost any constructed and even a lot of limited decks.
@catfishrob1
10 ай бұрын
@@superjakeyo7559really depends on the format. In standard, when you are casting 5 mana creatures you are getting near the end of the game. But you only need to gain a little bit of tempo at the end to win. If you can stop your opponents win con, and they don't have a counter spell, you'd pretty much be doing a time walk. In commander, it would be amazing.
@superjakeyo7559
10 ай бұрын
@@catfishrob1 sheoldred is in standard, you have to have a lot of extra tempo to over come sheoldred. the decks in standard don’t care about turn 5, most of them have either played a big threat already by that point and are holding up interaction and sandbagging, or are ramping to their atraxa and are perfectly content with land going for 1 turn. and in commander, this has no place, there’s cards that stop ur opponents from playing spells on ur turn for 2 mana, there’s vastly better stax pieces and even if ur saying for casual commander, then this is just an excuse for ur opponents to bash ur face with the creatures they already have.
@catfishrob1
10 ай бұрын
@@superjakeyo7559 I'm not talking about current standard, that is constantly changing and I'm not familiar with the current meta. I'm speaking generally about the format as a whole. But fine, take that as an example, if they haven't gotten Sheoldred out yet, that stops them for one more turn, which certainly would make a difference. In commander, I imagine you'd use it when you have a lopsided board in your favor, to prevent the enemy from responding for long enough to win you the game. If you're using it as a midrange tempo play, well, sure, they can smash you with their creatures but now you got a 5/5 out and they can't, so trades should work in your favor. But if you know your opponent is about to set up for a huge turn, and either one of you could die next turn, you would just throw that down and win.
@dstreetz91
7 ай бұрын
In magic loatheb would be broken honestly in most formats or at least really good. In an aggro deck if you play loatheb they can't wrath you next turn and it probably seals the win for you. Only place it would be not so good is control mirrors, but even there it could maybe do something to give you an edge depending on the control decks and format. Against combo it may as well read they can't combo next turn unless they're dredge, but dredge doesn't play normal magic though even against dredge it will stop them dread returning or flashbacking cabal therapy. I'm guessing in legacy and vintage loatheb would be a reanimation target to shut your opponent down for a turn. Even if it was legendary you would just sacrifice a loatheb to get another loatheb into play to trigger it's effect over and over to lock your opponent out.
@TrueNargin
Жыл бұрын
I feel like you should've explained the basics of how minion attacking works to Voxy BEFORE showing her a bunch of minions since Magic does this very differently.
@KrivitskyM
Жыл бұрын
For real, it hurts to see a poorly organized presentation. Didn't even introduce a guest for starters. What, am I supposed to know every content creator from every game unless they are universally famous? Here, I spent 10 minutes to write a basic intro. "Today I'm inviting a Magic player who has never played Hearthstone to rate some Hearthstone cards. For those who don't know you, please, introduce yourself. (Cut to Voxy) Hi, I'm Voxy, I've been playing Magic for X years, I stream on Twitch etc (Cut to Rarran) Alright. I've briefly touched Magic, so let me explain to your the key differences. In Hearthstone, there are 11 classes each of which has a unique card pool, and then there is a neutral card pool that you can use in any deck. When you build your deck, you pick a class and you can only use cards from that class's pool and neutral cards. You have to put 30 cards in, unless there are cards that allow you to go past that limit, but in general, it's 30. Legendary cards, you can only put 1 copy of each in your deck, and non-legendary cards can be up to 2 copies" And so on.
@mooncalf_4534
Жыл бұрын
@@KrivitskyM That'd be a really cool way to reduce his watchtime and lower the video's favour in the algorithm!
@PvtVallen
Жыл бұрын
@@KrivitskyM Theres a reason Rarran is one of the most successful HS content creators we have ever had, let the man cook. He knows better than all of us how to make good content.
@timlieu7623
Жыл бұрын
He could have made a more indepth explanation, and avoided the 'hurts engagement' aspect by simplt speeding up that section while edoting. There are options that sastifies both the need to explain heathstone to the guest, and avoid boring the audiance.
@TrueNargin
Жыл бұрын
For the record - I am not telling Rarran how to structure his videos - for all I care the intro could've stayed exactly as it is now and the explaining part could've just been cut from the video. My point is just that it's pretty crucial to know what minions actually do before you start rating them.
@Jmvars
Жыл бұрын
Her energy is amazing, I truly enjoyed this one.
@__--_--_-----
Жыл бұрын
Has anyone seen her videos? Or want to now? Looking for new people to watch lol
@owlson2527
Жыл бұрын
@@__--_--_-----Very entertaining! She mostly plays MtG
@dr.monkey4369
Жыл бұрын
@@__--_--_----- honestly id love to watch her but knowing she only plays mtg is meh
@lindzmiester9698
Жыл бұрын
@@__--_--_----- she’s been on Game Knights for MTG commander
@m0002856
Жыл бұрын
@@dr.monkey4369 Yeah not an MTG fan, but I'd watch the shit out of her doing anything I'm remotely interested in if she brings this kind of energy to the table.
@DerDarkfire1
Жыл бұрын
Something interesting to note at 7:27: In Magic all cards (except lands) are spells. So creatures, as long as they are in your hand or on the stack, are considered "creature spells". Maybe Voxy also thought the additional 5 cost more would also count for creatures, which it actually doesn't. Because in Hearthstone, there are creatures and spells. So creatures are not spells.
@kaiseremotion854
Жыл бұрын
it didnt occur to me that it would even be reference just spells lol, playing mtg and sometimes ygo hearthstone is wild compared to either
@123pa1n
Жыл бұрын
doesnt change much, loatheb was still insanely good back when it was part of standart
@kalamahalorotmg4509
Жыл бұрын
@@123pa1n yes, but the way she thought of it, everything is a spell, which makes it so loatheb basically says ”your opponent can’t play cards next turn” if you play him on turn 5
@123pa1n
Жыл бұрын
@@kalamahalorotmg4509 yeah no offense but i already understood that when i replied to the original comment^^ The fact is no matter how you understand loatheb the card was realy good either way.
@simanolastname2399
Жыл бұрын
@@kalamahalorotmg4509 exactly what I was thinking, I was just like "wtf is this a 5/5 with virtually etb time walk"
@Thanos1908
Жыл бұрын
Voxy's fresh approach to HS is refreshing to watch :)
@olvynchuru1663
Жыл бұрын
Patches the Pirate would be insane in Magic the Gathering as well. Just imagine if turn 1 Ragavan also gave you a free card from your deck (Ragavan is a pirate, so it would trigger Patches).
@zoa9720
Жыл бұрын
Yeah, that rating was confusing. Free stuff is good in almost any card game. At worst the impact could be too low for the chance to draw it.
@Kristjan0209
Жыл бұрын
It's like a 0 mana companion
@Strongpoint_S
Жыл бұрын
In magic 1\1 is a chump blocker\sacrafice fodder, in Hearthstone it can always go face or be used for removing enemy minions. Also, deck thining is far more important in a 30-card game than in a 60-card game. Playable in a right deck - yes, insane - I don't think so
@Kristjan0209
Жыл бұрын
@@Strongpoint_S if it had haste like the prenerf version it would be great for an aggressive tribal deck but even not it's a tribal card and tribal decks can do a lot more with creature in the tribe than just throw them away
@Th3Treasoner
Жыл бұрын
Patches is kind of in MtG though, Street Wraith is basically just four cards in your deck that read "pay eight life to have a 56 card deck".
@chaosapple7771
Жыл бұрын
We need more of these with her. She is really funny and has a really great energy about her.
@peeporiot9948
Жыл бұрын
I love Voxy in magic so much; it's exciting to see her there! Plus hopefully this means Rarran rates more Magic cards 😘
@javilopezcalvo5961
Жыл бұрын
Tyrantus is unplayable in arena too. Now if you have to pick a 10 mana card you would prefer the 10 mana 8/8 with rush that summons another 8/8 when it dies. Is faaaaaar better and a common XD 1 or 2 out of 10
@barcster2003
Жыл бұрын
It just costs too much to be a vanilla minion.
@blamethefranchise1473
Жыл бұрын
he was alright back when he released in arena. Now though like you say even arena has been powercrept.
@meanberryy
Жыл бұрын
Yup, G'huun was insane in arena though.
@blamethefranchise1473
Жыл бұрын
@@meanberryy yeah, didn't play around that time but I could imagine dropping an 8/8 and basically getting 2 free cards with it would be broken in arena
@IcaroMendonca
Жыл бұрын
The most important part of understanding why Patches is good is that in Hearthstone you can directly attack minions, but you can't do that in Magic. Essentially minions double as removal in Heartstone. In Magic, if you have a value creature, like Flamewaker or Mana Tide Totem, you can simply not block with it and it will live for as long as you opponent doesn't get removal. This, coupled with the fact that in HS damage doesn't go away at the end of every turn, means that any early board presence is REALLY strong because you can snowball that into more and more of a board advantage. A 1/1 is disproportionately stronger in Hearthstone. IIRC, it was Reynad that used to say that every 1 mana 1/3 was broken. And Patches is a HUGE board advantage. Playing an pirate that is likely already alright by itself, like pre-nerf Small-Time Buccaneer and getting a free 1/1 on turn one is tremendous. AND it used to have charge! It would trade with any turn 2 play and instantly put the opponent on the defensive.
@urahi830
Жыл бұрын
you should have mentioned that minions don't heal at the end of your turn in hearthstone and that you can attack the same minion with multiple ones
@alicetheaxolotl
Жыл бұрын
Yea, sounds like he just assumed it works that way in Magic, so he didn't think it was worth mentioning
@theforce0977
Жыл бұрын
He also showed loatheb without mentioning that minions aren't spells
@javyz6197
Жыл бұрын
He didn’t even know that himself is the thing
@WavemasterAshi
Жыл бұрын
Part of why she might go "How the hell are you supposed to break through a Bonemare'd minion?" is because in M:TG, damage on creatures gets wiped away at the end of a turn.
@iamcool544
Жыл бұрын
yeah he really explained like nothing. It seems like he has never really played Magic.
@juliandacosta6841
Жыл бұрын
@@iamcool544 it's weird because he has
@OrdemDoGraveto
Жыл бұрын
Raran, you have to start explaining to Magic players that there is no block, and that "taunt" means it automatically block any atack. And that the damage on creatures are permanent. Those are the things they need to understand beforehand to evaluate the creatures.
@NeekoGood
Ай бұрын
Nah this way the content is a lot funniee
@terfel9476
Жыл бұрын
I’m only 3 minutes in and I can already tell one video with this woman is not enough.
@-Taylor-
Жыл бұрын
This is the best magic player you've ever had on. Her coming in knowing nothing was amazing. 😂
@luckp36
Жыл бұрын
I guess PVDDR is a better player since he is a pro player.
@mrbigotes9974
Жыл бұрын
@@luckp36 They're saying how acurrate their ratings were I believe, and yeah, Voxy pretty much nailed every single rating
@Nastyn1nja808
Жыл бұрын
@@mrbigotes9974maybe go watch that video
@cameronroberts4296
Жыл бұрын
Lost me at the patches evaluation because good mtg players would understand the deck thinning and free mana cost
@Nastyn1nja808
Жыл бұрын
@@luckp36 he's a World Champion
@m0002856
Жыл бұрын
OKAY OKAY OKAY WAIT! A comment you made near the end of the video gave me a suggestion for another video. You said that Hearthstone's design was taking what Magic does and making it easier to grasp from a glance. You'd be slightly mistaken. Hearthstone is actually taking the original World of Warcraft TCG, a game which legitimately did do EXACTLY what your original comment stated, and made it even more simplified than that game was. I'd be curious to see you rate some of the original WoW TCG cards. Many of the mechanics stayed the same or had similar counterparts, but the deck construction and interacts with your opponent was much more similar to MTG. Your deck was 60 cards, you could put 4 of cards into a deck with some exceptions, there were instant spells you could play on your opponent's turns, and you did not automatically gain mana at the start of your turns. They "dumbed it down" from Magic in a few ways- one of which being the way they handled mana. You could only play one mana card per turn, but ANYTHING in your hand could be a mana card. There were cards that were specifically made to be better used for mana- these were quests and location cards. If you played a non quest or non location card as mana, it would go face down in your resource bar and have no other effect other than being used for one mana. Locations were typically permanent lasting effects that would persist on the board. Something like, "Your Orcs have +1 attack" could be a possible location effect. Quests were cards which would have an effect- usually that costed some amount of mana to activate- and they would flip themselves face down after you completed them. A lot of quests would draw you cards, so something like 2 mana draw 1 card as a quest would be seen pretty often. But there were some key differences from both Magic and Hearthstone- The hero you were playing itself was actually a card you'd consider. Different heroes had different effects even within the same class, and they would also have different health values. You could play a Goblin Death Knight with 29 health, or an Undead Death Knight with 27 health, and the two would have different effects. Hero effects usually cost some high-ish amount of mana and they'd usually read, "Flip this hero over." Some of them were one time use effects so like, " 5 mana- untap all your minions this turn. Flip *Name of Hero* over," and the reverse side would have no effect. Other times, the front of the card would do nothing and the reverse would have a permanent effect like, "5 mana- Flip *Hero name over* Your Arcane Spells deal +1 damage." TL;DR- Rate some of the original World of Warcraft TCG cards because it would be fun to see you do.
@voronovychda
Жыл бұрын
For the next videos(with mtg players) the things you should mention is the size of the board, the fact that minions don't tap, that you can attack other minions and that the minions keep the damage dealt to them. Those are important differences I think.
@TheBizzerker
Жыл бұрын
Not choosing blocks seems like a big one too. The guy who lets you draw 2 and then pay for them with life is a lot better in a world where you can choose to protect your life total during combat.
@TheBizzerker
9 ай бұрын
That would help with the card analysis, but it's a lot more amusing to watch people learn these rules as the video progresses and see what their reaction is lol
@ssstierghoul
Жыл бұрын
I'm not even finished with the video and i'm already giggling my ass off! Great collab, already know that would love to see more!
@vincentdessalles254
Жыл бұрын
Oh wow, that was one hell of a video. I lost it at 24:48. The pure indignation from Voxy at minions keeping their damage was hilarious. 10/10, please bring her back with even more curveballs XD
@TheBizzerker
9 ай бұрын
It's also great how she just doesn't comprehend the question when he first asks, as though the thought of damage not being healed at end of turn doesn't even make sense.
@ismayonez6865
8 ай бұрын
Yeah now it makes so much sense why she rated a 10 mana 12/12 hexproof so high. Because it would be borderline impossible to kill if they heal every start of turn 😂
@soleo2783
5 ай бұрын
@@ismayonez6865 nah, we have big expensive beat sticks with hexproof in magic, and they are bad there too lol
@MrMarnel
Жыл бұрын
I'm not sure Voxy realised the "from your deck" part of Patches. It's probably more accurate to describe Hearthstone spells as sorceries to MtG players. Instants can be played in response to other spells or abilities, even during your turn. Pretty fun video, thank you both.
@RealityMasterRogue
Жыл бұрын
The thing is you can play hearthstone spells whenever. Even between attacks. Sorceries are limited to specific phases and instants arent.
@MrMarnel
Жыл бұрын
@@RealityMasterRogue Hearthstone doesn't have phases, the entire turn is one big thing. You can play minions between attacks too, that doesn't mean they all have flash. "Instant" to a Magic player implies the existence of a stack-like system and playing cards in response to other cards. I think it's way less likely to lead to confusion if they're just called sorceries.
@RealityMasterRogue
Жыл бұрын
I mean yeah, its best to compare them to sorceries, but given said lack of phases hearthstone spells exist in a middle space between the two where they have less limits that sorceries and less than instants, so its reasonable to make either comparison.
@SlickTrix33
Жыл бұрын
Yeah Patches js like having a Memnite as a companion with the OG companion rules except it also thins your deck slightly. I'm actually surprised she rated it low. I feel like she didn't actually understand the card effect somehow
@danielclark612
Жыл бұрын
Even still, patches sounds soooooooo bad. I didn't play during that era but it sounds awful. Every spell clears and so do most hero powers.
@neros_soren
Жыл бұрын
One big thing you should ALWAYS note for magic players is, that there IS a distinction on card text between a SPELL and a MINION. Because in MTG EVERYTHING, except for land, is a spell. So Loatheb might read to a MTG players "5M 5/5 opponent does nothing next turn".
@CapriFame
Жыл бұрын
Poison triggers on Deathrattles, there used to be the 4 mana 2/1 beast, that deals 2 to everything, in the Deathstalker Hero Power pool that you could quite consistent fuse poisonous on and clear boards :)
@yama_noki
Жыл бұрын
The distinction there is that the Deathstalker Hero Power generates a card that innately has Poisonous as its card text, whereas Sergeant Sally would need to be granted Poisonous via another effect. Rarran appeared to be unsure if dying would mean that Sergeant Sally would lose any keywords obtained from buffs, especially since Hearthstone does not always resolve things in a consistent order. Since Sally retains attack gained from buffs, though, I do think (though I'm not certain) that Sally retains keywords as well, i.e. if she were to be given Lifesteal or Poisonous, both would work on the AoE damage.
@juliandacosta6841
Жыл бұрын
@@yama_noki yeah, it's just that the only cards that do that are 2 bad rogue cards
@Skullhawk13
Жыл бұрын
@@juliandacosta6841 you say that but would you WANT them to be one mana give poisonous? Serpent bloom shows how nutty that is even locked to beasts only.
@adomisk3047
Жыл бұрын
Dude I love Voxy, and she was great during the video. If you're looking for more people to invite to this, i'd love to see Amy the Amazonian or The Professor from the MTG scene.
@prysthaea7735
Жыл бұрын
Patches would be absolutely insane in Magic, in every format. He's a creature that tutors himself directly from your library into play! Imagine casting Ragavan and getting a free 1/1 you didn't have to draw on top of it.
@cheesi
10 ай бұрын
In Magic he would be good because you can put 4 copies in your deck. Turn 1 play a 1-cost pirate and get 4 1/1s
@cheesi
10 ай бұрын
Wait, no, if it's a legendary creature then only one copy would be allowed to stay. Still, that just thins your deck down to 56 cards for 1 mana, kinda great!
@superjakeyo7559
10 ай бұрын
yes, for all the pirate decks rocking all the formats.
@ShinerCCC
10 ай бұрын
Rarran should have explained that pirates tend to be very low mana cost
@drakegrandx5914
10 ай бұрын
@@cheesi Honestly, in Magic he would be good even if he were limited to one copy per deck. At worst it's still deck-thinning, and at best it's a free ETB trigger with a possible Death trigger, with the in-between being a free body for mass reanimation, cards-in-graveyards checking, or exile-from-graveyard-as-cost effects. He would basically have the same problem that an unbanned Lutri in Commander would: a card that's always available and that just doesn't have any downside in being runned.
@steffenml
Жыл бұрын
If you had specified “remember - you can’t block attacks, and attacks can target minions” I think Patches would have made more sense to her as a good card. If you have a 4/1 in magic, or a 1/1 poison, that can be used to block a massive creature and kill it - the attacker never gets to choose how damage is dealt. The attacker choosing the damage, is a really massive deal and why Patches is a strong card.
@nijimazero
Жыл бұрын
Even in magic a 1/1 that automatically gets on board from the deck when you play a particular tribe would be a really great card to have in any aggro deck.
@kaiseremotion854
Жыл бұрын
@@nijimazero yea she was constantly refering to tokens, which tbh a 1 mana 1/1 that made another 1/1 token would still be good
@TheBizzerker
9 ай бұрын
Even in Magic that free 1/1 is great. Since you get to declare blockers, you get an extra 1/1 who can chump block anything without trample or evasion.
@Vlad-vb8lo
5 ай бұрын
@@TheBizzerker i feel like you havent played magic in a while, because 1/1 tokens are helpful sure, but not an uncommon effect. Magic can create so many token creatures, some decks are entirely based on creating TONS of tokens, ive played a commander match where i had over 10 token creatures who came out for free and have a 2/2 stat line to start before any buffs
@Lasergurka
Жыл бұрын
"Almost all spells are instants" - Rarran, about a game completely lacking instant speed interaction
@ubadman1
Жыл бұрын
can we get an entire series of you and her playing each other's games?? her in arena or even ladder with you help coach would be so funny.
@Suffi_
Жыл бұрын
SHE IS GREAT LMAO She needs to come back for a few more videos!
@winterthemuteson
Жыл бұрын
I think you should have mentioned that when patches came out he had charge, which is equivalent to magics haste, and there were a lot of A) really cheap good quality pirates and B) cards that buffed pirates. Patches was used not only to reduce the number of cards in your deck, but also because you could just get insane stats for really cheap. There was a 1 mana 1/3 that equipped a 1/3 weapon, so you could literally get all that on turn 1 and just keep buffing them for the rest of the game.
@unfortunateimperial6019
Жыл бұрын
As a yugioh player, the idea of a card summoning itself from the deck on a rather simple condition, is freaking mind blowing.
@DarleneBuffa
Жыл бұрын
Lol instant xyz summon. I use to play competitive. This is my mom's account
@VRanger100
Жыл бұрын
Feels like for future videos, you should grab classic clips of cards and show them off to the guests. The classic "Everybody get in here" loops never gets old even all these years for me.
@randomstrategy7679
Жыл бұрын
The video definitely needed a clip pf Patches getting summoned because she absolutely did not understand the effect. A clip of shudderwock doing shudderwock things and a clip of Tony Jailor destroying the opponent's deck would also have been very useful.
@theelectricant98
Жыл бұрын
Shes a great guest for this format! As someone who moved from HS to playing MTG i always find these entertaining
@robertkb64
Жыл бұрын
You should have told her about the Tony burn decks in standard, forcing them to overdraw fatigue (and tell her how that works since it’s different in MTG)
@ThelastProdigy
Жыл бұрын
19:45 Gamer discovers Heartstone is 2 sided solitaire
@decout
Жыл бұрын
"A fat ass will get you a long ways." That isn't even magic advice that's just life advice.
@penguinvader7057
Жыл бұрын
Patches does not make your deck any more consistent, in fact it makes it less so, because potentially drawing it is much more of a consistency downside than the upside of thinning your deck by 3-4% when you don't draw him, the actual reason he's insane is solely because of the tempo advantage of a 0 mana 1/1 that doesn't cost a card that you have access to almost every game.
@JoshSweetvale
6 ай бұрын
Also because Pirates are either a rush deck or a one-two card random tech inclusion.
@MrElliotholman
6 ай бұрын
Considering you had an MTG limited player and a standard HS guy I really feel like the analysis has no right to be this spot on. You both have a lovely energy too, great video
@Cedisdead
Жыл бұрын
Tyrantus was not good in arena back in my days anyway, its way too slow. Btw Voxy is incredible, she got herself a new fan.
@Aw3som3-117
Жыл бұрын
G'huun is good in Arena. It's going to be next to two other Legendaries, though, so not always the best pick amongst the options you get. But it's a good effect.
@Yonzon84
Жыл бұрын
I love seeing the collabs with people from the MTG community, keep it up rarran.
@theelectricant98
Жыл бұрын
Same here! Gotta get Rarran playing some magic eventually haha
@floxyeisrabe3258
Жыл бұрын
Lets go what a cool collab love it 😮😊
@Harakanis
Жыл бұрын
As a former HS player i was like "oh, getting patches right is so easy, it used to break the game" Then I remembered ragavan is a 1 drop in magic
@glofindel420
Жыл бұрын
yes put she only plays limited so she will not be that familier to that kind of stuff
@Ninjamanhammer
Жыл бұрын
But that's a bad comparison. You don't play Patches.
@Akari-br7ci
Жыл бұрын
As someone who doesn't play Magic or Hearthstone, this was really informative
@lavashot449
Жыл бұрын
Defile is similar to a MTG card called Massacre Girl Massacre Girl 3 generic and 2 Black Mana Legendary Creature - Human Assassin Menace When Massacre Girl enters the battlefield, each other creature gets -1/-1 until end of turn. Whenever a creature dies this turn, each creature other than Massacre Girl gets -1/-1 until end of turn. 4/4
@Kristjan0209
Жыл бұрын
Yeah for once magic copied hearthstone
@thechrisgrice
Жыл бұрын
@@Kristjan0209 Magic Cards are often designed 8+ years in advance. Look at Future Sight.
@Kristjan0209
Жыл бұрын
@@thechrisgrice future sight was an exception (some of the designs even got cancelled). R&D said that a set is in development for about 2-3 years and the cards themselves are made last. War of the spark was released a little less than 2 years after knights of the frozen throne which also had it's own development period
@Maesan90
Жыл бұрын
Nice surprise to see Voxy on here! Loves you guys interacting together, definitely bring her back for more of these!
@konstantinkrastev4478
Жыл бұрын
Damn Voxy is funny
@TZ587
Жыл бұрын
Great video! Perhaps in future videos you could load up a tutorial or bot game and show the guest a few turns so that they are familiar with the mechanics without having to worry about forgetting info Hope this becomes a series, can't wait to see more hilarious interactions from people who haven't played HS!
@pidgeynuggets4629
Жыл бұрын
I would love to see Voxy back on for round 2, she is so entertaining to have on
@connorjensen9699
Жыл бұрын
I used to play gang up patches deck and it was absolutely mint. firing ships cannon off a one mana pirate as many times as I had open board spaces was fun as hell
@coopsjosh051
Жыл бұрын
hell yeah great guest! defo gonna check her out after this. really cool to get someone looking at it from an "arena" perspective.
@marcustulliuscicero5443
Жыл бұрын
From an Arena perspective: Tyrantus: 2/5 Spending all your mana on a minion that does nothing is not a winning strategy. However not the worst big dumb pile of stats for sure, which saves it from a bottom rating. Tar Creeper: 5/5 Third-best neutral common in the set.
@turntsnaco824
Жыл бұрын
Bonemare was LITERALLY the king of Arena when it came out. You took every single one offered to you, whoever played more Bonemares won, so her instinct that it's an insane card is completely on point, even if it isn't quite as respectable these days.
@jgaringan
Жыл бұрын
At release Bonemare was incredible in standard as well, they even had to nerf it a year later. It's probably my favorite neutral common in the game
@Daidalus2
Жыл бұрын
God damnit, Adeptus Ridickoulus has warped my mind that much, that hearing "he is just a little guy" starts a five minute loop of it every time.
@ahmedalarishi6119
Жыл бұрын
I didn’t know her at all, but her energy is amazing and she’s quite funny
@gregorygiles6430
Жыл бұрын
Rarran if you tell these magic players that your minions can attack other peoples minions you will freaking see their brain explode. Like dude trust me it will be like that damage staying again.
@yedigemagavin1694
Жыл бұрын
She is a goldmine. A tcg player that doesn’t know HS? Get her to rate everything in the game.
@LostG04
Жыл бұрын
i find it very funny how you started doing the krip arms behind head thing after you acknowledge it on stream
@keitaowl
Жыл бұрын
Holy moly I had no clue who Voxy was but she is actually so funny especially matched with Rarran
@Riokaii
Жыл бұрын
deathrattle with poisonous does work. Abomination + poison arrow gave control hunter a board clear which was niche but functional
@SuperKamiGuru5
Жыл бұрын
Voxy's sass and Rarrans persistence and love for this, makes this great
@bboyilikechoclate
9 ай бұрын
It’s wild that you hang out so much with reynad because he has a 15 minute rant about how patches deck thinning doesn’t matter in the slightest. It’s just insane tempo that your opponent has a hard time coming back from, even if he was a forced 31st card in your deck he would have been just as good
@kinghazythethird
Жыл бұрын
I immediately looked up planewalker when she was confused about the hero. This was great 😂
@alexandersnider734
Жыл бұрын
Planeswalkers are kinda like heroes in Hearthstone but a card you can play. They stick around and have hero powers you can activate until the opponent dedicates resources to kill them off. Think like a 5 -10 health seperate hero with its own set of 1-3 hero powers that cost life to use.
@yirehnew
Жыл бұрын
planeswalker are similar to heroes in hearthstone. the player is hero/planeswalker. meanwhile the planeswalker/hero card is different. planeswalker card feels like calling another player to borrow their power instead of summoning minion. hero card replace your hero and hero power
@kinghazythethird
Жыл бұрын
@@yirehnew 🤯
@rishikaushik8307
Жыл бұрын
By her reaction to how there is no blocking, she might be under the assumption that there is no summoning sickness in HS
@pedrokotii2417
Жыл бұрын
Looks great. I'd love if you had like 10 cards rated, but give her 3 Storytime Tokens, to use as she sees fit, to hear more about the card and what it had been up to. I'd love her reaction to Early Patches (the Pirate). She did say she likes games within games :p
@Orcasgt22
Жыл бұрын
Tar Creeper was a 6/5 when I played. That format was so Zoo/Huntard aggro heavy that if you were not an aggro deck, you wanted to draw both of these in your deck which would always have 2 of in it every time.
@x10018ro
Жыл бұрын
Its funny with Patches, cause I'd argue 1/1 tokens are even better in magic compared to hearthstone, cause you can block with them and they usually don't get removed as easily (by hero powers for example). A free 1/1 that comes out of the deck with another card would 100% see play in Magic.
@loner419
Жыл бұрын
I knew the reaction to health staying damaged each turn was coming but it was still funny.
@MLingremar
Жыл бұрын
About Sally's mechanic: her concept is "you can buff her stats, so if she have 5 atk on moment her deathrattle triggers, she would deal 5 dmg to opponent's board", so yes, such keywords as poisonous and Lifesteal are also applicable to her effect
@r3zaful
Жыл бұрын
The cost is too high unfortunately
@FurryEskimo
Жыл бұрын
Love her reactions, thanks for hosting this. I’d like to see more of this, haha
@Caesar512
Жыл бұрын
She honestly nailed it on almost everything
@DefaultSeaTurtle
Жыл бұрын
Since a lot of people seem to vibe with her energy, but might not be into MtG, Voxy has her own KZitem channel where she has posted playthroughs of Portal 2, Elden Ring, Doki Doki Literature Club, and a Pokemon Fire Red Randomizer Nuzlocke.
@glacen
Жыл бұрын
I love seeing these videos as an MTG player myself. Also really interesting to see Voxys ratings/card interpretations as a limited MTG player. I'm wondering if you got someone who played standard or other constructed formats like modern or legacy (similar to wild in HS). I think CovertGoBlue might be interested in doing something like this and he's a very good best of 1 standard player. Loved the video keep it up!
@beybladetunada5697
Жыл бұрын
Best episode of the series so far, its way more interesting when they don't know anything about hs
@xTobsecretx
Жыл бұрын
Yaaaaaay, you did make it happen!!! I’m so excited for this collab!!!
@T1J
Жыл бұрын
defile broken
@definitelynotmany4972
Жыл бұрын
4:45 I don’t know if Voxy plays commander. But you can see patches are similar to Edgar Markov’s eminence. Also, Patches would be broken in limited if pirates were playable. Something else to note is that pirates have been good overall throughout Hearthstone history.
@elhoim_3
Жыл бұрын
If you compare patches with Edgar you can easily get lower than 1/5. Eminence: the first time in a game you play a pirate draw one and summon a 1/1 is bad in edh
@definitelynotmany4972
Жыл бұрын
@@elhoim_3 It would not be bad in edh. It is a free creature for creature decks like Malcolm/Tymna. It would not be as broken as Markov’s eminence, but it would still be good. It also could be a free creature to sacrifice in other decks.
@LookNoHands_
Жыл бұрын
Difference is that patches only works once
@Jigsawtwig
Жыл бұрын
Voxy does play commander at least sometimes. She's been on other youtube games. In limited patches becomes even worse I think because the chance of drawing him or him being in your opener becomes higher with 40 card decks and since most limited decks want to curve out a vanilla 1/1 becomes irrelevant even faster. I think comparing him to Markov's eminence shows how weak he actually would be in MtG.
@Red-yt2dk
Жыл бұрын
I can't believe that rarran didn't explain the difference between card health and toughness. That distinction really changes the value of Taunt.
@AugustoValentini
Жыл бұрын
This video was great! Please bring her back to the channel for more! I think it would be funny showing her some of HS's weirdest cards since she has never played the game.
@treysnell7564
Жыл бұрын
Sergeant Sally would kill everything if she was given poisonous. If you craft a zombeast with death stalker rexar then you can choose a poisonous minion and the 4 mana 2/1 deathrattle: deal 2 dammage do all enemy minons. That would kill all enemy minons. (This would also work with lifesteal!)
@EebstertheGreat
Жыл бұрын
The most viable combo this card has seen was with Plague Scientist, which some people tried to make work. Still pretty bad though. 2 cards and 6 mana to clear the enemy board, and you still needed a third card like a backstab or shiv or something to kill it and trigger the deathrattle.
@lautzu323
Жыл бұрын
We need another one of these. I love the energy/vibe of this video. Allow me to superlike this!
@AndrewS-vu4ji
Жыл бұрын
I love it when rarran forgets to explain key differences between hearthstone and magicand his guests just get absolutely wrecked
@who_what
Жыл бұрын
24:05 rarran really wanted to say "i agree" but he decided against it 😂
@scabbardo5926
Жыл бұрын
She was speaking facts though
@VBGigLife
Жыл бұрын
I love these videos, please make more. I play HS all the time and I’ve also played a lot of other card games which makes it even better. Voxy in particular was hilarious and fun and your byplay was chef’s kiss for sure. This video is 5/5 and I would rate is higher if I could . Let’s go!
@m0002856
Жыл бұрын
Okay but like... I'm not a huge fan of MTG, but I would absolutely watch her stream. Her energy is 10/10. Do more collabs with her. I can tell how much fun you had making this video from y'all's interactions, and it shows. I'm having a great time listening to her go on about Patches Pete the Pirate or whatever it's called xD
@gregorygiles6430
Жыл бұрын
So many people didn’t play when you saw patches come out after the first damn pirate and you knew, this was going to be a damn hard fight. That deck was very hard to beat until the nerfs.
@Typical7
Жыл бұрын
that was such a fun episode, hope she returns in future videos
@xBrokenMirror2010x
10 ай бұрын
Patches would still be insane in Magic. The card is effectively a "0 Cost, 1/1 Draw a Card" because it draws and plays itself out of your library, it's free, and comes at no opportunity cost.
@christianandersson4345
Жыл бұрын
Another banger Rarran, would love to see you do more content with voxy.
@Cuestrupaster
Жыл бұрын
"This is a legendary?" ~Well this isn't just *a* legendary... this is *THE* Legendary, the strongest Legendary card from the game.
@S1L3NTDr460n
Жыл бұрын
No fking way you got Voxy doing these now?? Lesgo!
@Ultr4l0f
Жыл бұрын
Ha! She was super charming. And his reaction to all her swearing was kinda sweet.
@Nankeroo
Жыл бұрын
God this was AMAZING! You two are a great duo together!
@markusgrenable
Жыл бұрын
Usually don't watch these, but she turned out to be so freakingly hilarious for the whole video 😂
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