wow I miss magictv every wednesday evening for me.
@mashiscanlan5725
5 жыл бұрын
Me too!
@P3nnybags
5 жыл бұрын
I'm OFFENDED that Painter's Servant/Grindstone isn't even an honorable mention!
@mashiscanlan5725
5 жыл бұрын
I agree- we definitely missed that one.
@sjisx
5 жыл бұрын
And helm of obedience RIP
@bladeflesh
5 жыл бұрын
yeah I consider a combo to be game winning. Some of these didnt win the game every time.
@namesurname7172
2 жыл бұрын
Imagine being offended because some cardboards/papers were left out.
@jonathanshore5768
Жыл бұрын
@@namesurname7172 imagine thinking he was SERIOUS 😅
@MrJSenf
5 жыл бұрын
my guess for top4 #4 Pestermite Splinter Twin #3 Mishra's Workshop Trinisphere #2 High Tide Candelabra of Tawnos #1 Crucible of Worlds Strip Mine
@MrCytree
5 жыл бұрын
i dont understand #3 would you mind explaining please??
@sumcate8168
5 жыл бұрын
@@MrCytree you play trinisphere t1 with workshop. Therefore you have 3+ mana, are able to Play your spells, your opponent Most likely not
@Narabedla4
5 жыл бұрын
channel and fireball?
@tristensweet4198
2 жыл бұрын
I love coming back to this video. Illusions + donate changed my life. I put that together in some janky UB deck, started winning local events which paid for better cards and decks which eventually led to playing poker for a living. It's wild to think about how it all traces back to that one thing.
@MalikButler
5 жыл бұрын
This is my favorite format of CFB video. I wasn't playing magic back when Mashi, Cheon, LSV, etc were doing these originally and am so happy to see these back! Hopefully you'll start streaming card prices in a banner again so we can look back and cry about $10 rares skyrocketing in price.
@uptherockies
5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this, great to see the GOAT giving interviews and talking about cards
@Zer0kool1337
5 жыл бұрын
So glad we got a new MagicTV. Hope you guys keep at it! Definitely missed it. Also two great guests
@Mennguy
5 жыл бұрын
Last time I was this early Paul Cheon was still playing on the ProTour
@Danny.._
5 жыл бұрын
should've been titled "old men talk about the good ol' days of magic"
@gameKrang
5 жыл бұрын
Beyond stoked with the choice for #1. That was the first Vintage deck I ever played and it holds a special place in my heart. And getting the sign off on it from Finkel himself? Bliss.
@Serouzo
5 жыл бұрын
Was expecting psychatog + upheaval as one of the more old-school combos, but turns out there are way more old-school combos I wasn't aware of!
@tomasvil
5 жыл бұрын
What year is it
@daviddavidson1090
5 жыл бұрын
Top 2 Eight-card combos
@Buzazu
3 жыл бұрын
12:08 I feel challenged, so I will give it a guess: 4. Donate + Illusions of Grandeur 3. Painter's Servant + Grindstone 2. Flash + Protean Hulk 1. Channel + Fireball
@nomakym
5 жыл бұрын
maybe i'm the only one who loved *Squirrel* *Nest* + *Earthcraft*
@ChaseSpec
5 жыл бұрын
so much salt at the high-school cafeteria tables. good times
@BaddeJimme
5 жыл бұрын
Also, Earthcraft+Goblin Warrens. And Earthcraft+Wild Growth+Sacred Mesa. Earthcraft was a quite broken
@Rorschachqp
5 жыл бұрын
I liked Squirrel Opposition myself.
@nomakym
5 жыл бұрын
i did that with Static Orb too :)
@apanapane
5 жыл бұрын
That brings back memories!
@commanderpower99
5 жыл бұрын
So excited to watch this after so much time!
@zacharylohner
5 жыл бұрын
Missed ones that should have been at least honorable mentions, probably in the top 8 somewhere: Prosperity/Cadaverous Bloom Flash/Protean Hulk Counterbalance/Sensei's Divining Top Sword of the Meek/Thopter Foundry
@shawndiaz7528
5 жыл бұрын
Flash Hulk you can easily argue is at least a 5 card combo
@wizardsmix7961
5 жыл бұрын
@@shawndiaz7528 Uhh, no. You cannot argue that flash hulk is a five card combo.
@shawndiaz7528
5 жыл бұрын
@@wizardsmix7961 how many bad cards do you need in your deck to win with Flash Hulk?
@wizardsmix7961
5 жыл бұрын
@@shawndiaz7528 0
@shawndiaz7528
5 жыл бұрын
@@wizardsmix7961 of yeah forgot about that game-winning combo where you tutor for nothing with Hulk's death trigger.
@Fogshaper
5 жыл бұрын
I'm pretty certain that the combo at #1 is Donate on your own Birds of Paradise, then Lightning Bolt the Bird, yelling "Bolt the Birds!"
@trysephiroth007
5 жыл бұрын
My guess at top 4 1. Channel/Fireball 2. Workshop/Trinisphere 3. Sword of the Meek/Thopter Foundry 4. Exarch/Twin
@JR-xv6mv
5 жыл бұрын
I think that Upheaval+Psychatog and Tinker+Blightsteel should have been on the list :)
@zigzag2370
5 жыл бұрын
Im soooo suprised that tog wasn't on the list bc finkle was on that bacc in the day somewhere i have meddling mages signed by finkle and shadowmage infiltrators signed by pikula 🤣 they were both so amused by doing that for me too
@amacuro
5 жыл бұрын
Can you please explain how Upheaval+Psychatog combo works? because the atog also goes to your hand so how do you attack with it?
@zigzag2370
5 жыл бұрын
@@amacuro few different ways to do it but originally you just wanted to upheaval with 9/10 lands in play 6 for e Upheaval then float the rest in order to cast psychatog which let you attacc the next turn....unless you were playing the red decc at that time that had reccless charge to grant it haste.....also another version ysed the rules of the time period and faceless butcher to remove the tog from play then once upheaval resolved returned the tog to play but since you controlled it prior you could attac the turn you"went off"
@amacuro
5 жыл бұрын
@@zigzag2370 i see, thank you. So originally you just attacked with atog the next turn with "only" 7 cards in hand? surely that wasn't lethal, so I'm guessing the deck had other sources of damage?
@JR-xv6mv
5 жыл бұрын
@@amacuro You bounce everything, but you make sure you have enough mana to play the tog. Then next turn you can attack and remove your entire graveyard to attack for lethal :)
@TheNickdotDK
5 жыл бұрын
nice to have you guys back :) more please
@tylermccrea9371
5 жыл бұрын
Hell yes magic tv is back
@apanapane
5 жыл бұрын
My guesses: 1. Channel + Fireball. I mean, how can it not be the number one? 2. Illusions of Grandeur + Donate 3. Cat combo 4. Cadaverous Bloom + Squandered Resources. Though I do guess that it might be counted as a three card combo due to Prosperoty being such a key piece.
@DualSwordBesken
5 жыл бұрын
I'm surprised Counter-Top didn't make it.
@monopoman
5 жыл бұрын
Yeah I thought for sure that would be one of the top 4.
@Demogorgon7007
5 жыл бұрын
I've watched Feline Longmore play high tide many times and she is amazing with that deck. It would be super stressful for me to pilot that deck, but she makes it look like child's play.
@felizginato12
5 жыл бұрын
Cards on screen? Entertaining guests? Editing? DECENT AUDIO?!?!?
@jigan001
5 жыл бұрын
Andrew but no LSV
@tomschwarzkopf
5 жыл бұрын
Welcome back, Magic TV!
@sixstingsamurai
5 жыл бұрын
Scepter//Chant should have been an honorable mention :(
@cannonspectacle5195
5 жыл бұрын
My picks for top 4 (in no particular order): Exarch/Twin, Saheeli/Guardian, Eternal/Command, and of course, Channel/Fireball
@jeffadams9807
11 ай бұрын
I Like: 1) Earthcraft + Squirrel Nest... 2) Dark Ritual + Entomb ( Pathrazer of the Ulamog) + Exhume... 3) Channel + Fireball... 4) Pestermite + Splinter Twin...
@joelowdon1615
5 жыл бұрын
I have missed this so much 😭
@baldsthebomb
5 жыл бұрын
With you all going vintage and legacy I'm very surprised this wasn't in the top 10. Stifle - Phyrexian Dreadnought combo haunted my early legacy days. 2 mana 12/12 trample turn 1.
@TomGalonska
5 жыл бұрын
I was guessing Helm + Leyline would be in the Top4. :D I love that combo :D
@ddublu397
5 жыл бұрын
woa, mashi still hangin back in 2009. good olden times :)
@bobbysnobby
5 жыл бұрын
My guesses 4. Upheavel // dr teeth 3. Channel //Fireball 2. Painter Servant // Grindstone 1. Illusions of Grandeur // donate But i also thought some honorable mentions that could have been included were Helm of Obedience // leyline of the void Memory Jar // Megrin Thopter foundry // sword of the meek (add in Kworks to go infinite)
@nomakym
5 жыл бұрын
megrim
@kryantastic
5 жыл бұрын
I am SHOCKED Island/Ancestral Recall didn't make the list.
@jeffersonderrickson5371
5 жыл бұрын
ritual hatred was my first combo deck when I was like 15. It won me so many prizessss
@gamitachi
5 жыл бұрын
man ,remember finkel when i was in neutral ground in nyc ,great times!!!
@sihyunkim
5 жыл бұрын
No Worldgorger Dragon Animate Dead??????
@MakeThisPlaceIgnite
5 жыл бұрын
it's back!
@CautionCU
5 жыл бұрын
Ritual ritual specter hymn was a beast!
@KyriZee
5 жыл бұрын
OMG I missed Mashi so much!!!!
@TimmytheSorcerer
5 жыл бұрын
Top 4: 1. Channel Fireball (obviously) 2. Power Artifact and Basalt Monolith 3. Land's Edge and Land Tax 4. Rod of Ruin and Fungusaur (cause it's so classy)
@patrickmchugh4616
5 жыл бұрын
Honorable mention should have included Flash Protean Hulk.
@wmichaelbooth
5 жыл бұрын
that's not really a two card combo in the spirit of the list.
@patrickmchugh4616
5 жыл бұрын
@@wmichaelbooth yeah i do realize it involves other cards i just thought it's such an iconic two piece combo it could be honorable mentioned
@HeyApples
5 жыл бұрын
Can't speculate on the whole top 4, but Recurring Nightmare + Survival of the Fittest springs to mind as something that should be on there.
@ChailFair
4 жыл бұрын
How is Flash/Hulk not on the list?? Or Tinker plus any artifact?
@PoodlestarGenerica
5 жыл бұрын
As soon as hexmage was spoiled everyone knew that combo. I traded for one at the zendikar prerelease when it was junk and sold it for 40 bucks to get Christmas presents later that year.
Sounds like there's quite a story there with Reid and the Twin deck. I'm struggling to find more details about it, though.
@peterklein3354
4 жыл бұрын
Vault/Key as one for sure, right?
@jasongates6894
5 жыл бұрын
man where is squirrel nest earthcraft
@jtyree0226
5 жыл бұрын
Jason Gates squirrels are too strong
@shawndiaz7528
5 жыл бұрын
Was hoping to see Cephalid Illusionist + Nomads en-Kor but still a cool vid (arguably more than a 2-card combo but still)
@thetruth4654
5 жыл бұрын
Man i love Balance such a sweet card
@Fixxle
5 жыл бұрын
No brainstorm + fetchland?
@Brian-ey4xt
5 жыл бұрын
My guesses for top 4: twin/exarch, servant/grindstone, donate/illusions, and helm/RIP.
@FiniteMTG
5 жыл бұрын
No Yawg Will + LED?
@Briko-22
5 жыл бұрын
Worldgorger combo not in here??? It's one of the most iconic for a long era...
@k0olmini11
5 жыл бұрын
YES ITS BACK!!!!
@gijswelten
5 жыл бұрын
Ok, top 4: 4) Kiki-jiki // Pestermite 3) Donate // Illusions 2) Flash // Hulk 1) Pros // Bloom
@gijswelten
5 жыл бұрын
No ProsBloom!?!? Heresy!
@damiananderkin1007
5 жыл бұрын
Flash hulk wasn't a 2card combo, as they weren't the actual cards that won the game
@akselhansen304
5 жыл бұрын
PLZ TELL ME THIS IS BACK FOR GOOD! 😍
@anarchond
5 жыл бұрын
Most powerful or most favorite combo? I'm always gonna be partial to the Black Vice + The Rack combo from back in the day
@BaddeJimme
5 жыл бұрын
Doesn't sound that amazing to me. Couldn't you just stay at 3-4 cards and avoid the damage? Wouldn't something like The Rack + Bottomless Pit or Black Vise + Winter Orb be better?
@Rorschachqp
5 жыл бұрын
BaddeJimme yep. Vise Rack is a wombo. Vice plus Wheel/twister or Balance/Mind Twist plus The Rack are good synergy combos.
@adolfoortiz956
5 жыл бұрын
Brainstorm fetchland should of been on here in my opinion
@Rorschachqp
5 жыл бұрын
Jonny Magic is great and all but I wish you got a player who was around in 94 who could have talked more about the old school combos, both the ones in the list and the ones that didn't make the list like Icy Manipulator/Royal Assassin and it's Dark counterpart Merfolk Assassin/War Barge, Ali From Cairo + Spectral Cloak, Rukh Egg + Diamond Valley, Time Walk + Fork, Wheel Of Fortune/Timetwister + Underworld Dreams, etc.
@grabbity
5 жыл бұрын
He literally played at pro tour 1...
@Rorschachqp
5 жыл бұрын
Gravity's Ghetto Mods. Exactly. He competed as a junior in PT NY 1, which was in 96. That’s years after 1994 and he was a kid so it’s unlikely he has power nine as a grade schooler in 1994. Even in the video he admits that the old skool is before his time. He knows of Type 1 and Type 2, but he didn’t play seriously before the types were established back when there was only competitive constructed. I remember PT NY 1. Many of my friends from LA went to NY and one even top 8-ed it and got his deck made into a commemorative pre-con deck.
@grabbity
5 жыл бұрын
@@Rorschachqp it was before he was Jonny magic yeah, but he's literally the only active "name" from back then. He was being modest. He's stated in several interviews he started playing in alpha, then professionally in early '95.
@grabbity
5 жыл бұрын
@@Rorschachqp also, your last anecdote is entirely made up as the preconstructed decks started with worlds 1997. I have a complete set.
@Rorschachqp
5 жыл бұрын
Gravity's Ghetto Mods. That’s an arrogant thing to say. Google “pro tour New York box set”. I’ve owned this set four times and I had all of the Worlds decks as well. I was known in LA for having all of the decks sleeved for play. Loconto had the blue white control, Lindback the Necro, Poulter with Ehrnam/Willow Geddon, Baxter’s aggro, plus my two fave players back then Hammer and Bertrand Lestree who should have won the first Worlds. The box set came with a magazine-like insert that resembles what later would become The Duelist Sideboard insert...it had a pic of Finkel in the Junior division I believe. And no, he’s not the only “name” from back then.
I'm surprised Earthcraft didn't get mentioned at all, but I'm happy I got Twin
@MrRod1290
5 жыл бұрын
Top 8 holes in Mashi's jeans.
@robertogomez2932
5 жыл бұрын
My favorite two card combo is ... Thoughtseize and counterspell . I'm no fun
@drewf8619
5 жыл бұрын
No Psychatog // Upheaval?? DaFuq????
@disk3001
5 жыл бұрын
Shahili Cat should be more of a mention since IT WAS IN THE SAME BLOCK, WHAT WERE THEY THINKING
@Krajcik1964
5 жыл бұрын
By the old rules, Mirror Universe dies to Shatter and Disenchant before it's activation resolves. Win of choice? Very sketchy, I say. Also, die on turn 2 to Mono-Black? Let's discuss again what the most powerful color in magic is?
@tamhuynh1905
5 жыл бұрын
hey you guys are back :)
@GarciLP
5 жыл бұрын
I would have thought Serra Angel + Stasis would make the list, the original "The" Deck!
@xZipkan
5 жыл бұрын
Surprised there was no mention of Helm of Obedience and Leyline of the Void/Rest in Peace
@nickcollins8997
5 жыл бұрын
More jon finkel!
@georgecolby7488
5 жыл бұрын
Counterbalance + Top? Thopter Sword? Show and Tell + Omniscience?
@nelspaulson3099
5 жыл бұрын
no flash hulk?
@xXPsyanideXx
5 жыл бұрын
No Hulk Flash? How? That deck was insane.
@ndre2561
5 жыл бұрын
Yeah it was backed by fow and pact it was brutal
@kpatterson14206
5 жыл бұрын
Gotta fix the audio setup, having three people talk into a single mic in a room is really bad, so much talking over each other and echo. Especially when they aren't that used to the format and thus tend to try to talk at the same time
@brandonlemay9719
5 жыл бұрын
Scapeshift + Valakut?
@ManyFPSVideos
5 жыл бұрын
What about Angels Grace + Ad Nauseam?
@vaxfantomen
5 жыл бұрын
Helm of Obedience + Rest in peace ^^
@Dylan-pi8nl
5 жыл бұрын
What about upheaval psycatog?
@cwjdog57
5 жыл бұрын
I do think we missed Flash Hulk on this one.
@alevale9722
5 жыл бұрын
yawgmoth's will + LED maybe top1?
@mr.joesterr5359
5 жыл бұрын
Alessio Valentini my vote was for lotus + will
@goldcobraarima9819
5 жыл бұрын
And Leyline and Hornedhelmet?
@mariopineda9932
5 жыл бұрын
I typed "MTG manspreading" into the search box and this came up. Something must be wrong with the algorithm :(
@kartoffelnpommesgut
5 жыл бұрын
Ad nauseam and angel's grace/phyrexian unlife maybe?
@jackrailroad
5 жыл бұрын
Has that deck ever won?
@kartoffelnpommesgut
5 жыл бұрын
@@jackrailroad Yes, circa 2013.
@mrsnufflegums
5 жыл бұрын
This top 8 is great and all but most of these feel like synergies and not combos. Like a combo is something like Vault-Key or Splinter twin combo, not Turbo Balance or vamp. hexmage/dark depths. Like they're not directly interacting with each other, one just enables the other
@ExKiwi-yw8er
5 жыл бұрын
Sure #1 is iconic but. The #1 two card combo of all time? Eeeehhhh...
@trysephiroth007
5 жыл бұрын
They're really really old.
@wmichaelbooth
5 жыл бұрын
Looking through the comments, it's apparent many don;t know what two card combo means. Or at least what the spirit of this list is. Flash + Protean Hulk doesn't qualify because it doesn't do anything without other cards. Show and Tell + Omnicience doesn't do anything without other cards. Recurring Nightmare + Survival of the Fittest needs other cards.
@jeffersonderrickson5371
5 жыл бұрын
flash hulk is the one I expected in the top 4
@arturogarduno9444
5 жыл бұрын
there is no need to force the reference to CEO Jon Saso cause is there
@24CK5
5 жыл бұрын
Thopter foundry sword of the meek
@yourfriendalex6852
5 жыл бұрын
who's the guy on the left
@mashiscanlan5725
5 жыл бұрын
Yeah, who is he?
@zionburger861
5 жыл бұрын
Surprised painter/stone isn't on this at all
@JR-xv6mv
5 жыл бұрын
Channel+Fireball must be one of them. Stasis+Chronatog?
@JR-xv6mv
5 жыл бұрын
Oh, I got bamboozled! I thought it was only old school combos!
@goldcobraarima9819
5 жыл бұрын
What about oath?
@brizobst
5 жыл бұрын
Ancestral recall + Island
@guimartgon
5 жыл бұрын
omg yes mashi!!!
@pyromike05
5 жыл бұрын
Where's Flash hulk?
@wmichaelbooth
5 жыл бұрын
Probably on their list of 4 or 5 card combos.
@pyromike05
5 жыл бұрын
True.. but you literally can use those 2 cards to get an infinite amount of combos in your deck.
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