Sam, thanks for the shout out. Great video. May I offer a couple of ideas for your consideration that have evolved since my video. 1. I now make all mine at 3-6 inches in diameter (poplar). Then I glue on bigger pieces as necessary such as your wider drive blocks. Then enables more of a standard threaded base and reuse of the base as projects evolve. I can cut off the old completely and start over when the drive block gets too small. 2. For the threaded base, I use deep shark jaws and simply press the wood against the closed face and cut a quick tenon. Therefore, I do not have to plane the wood nor have a waste block behind nor have double stick tape. 3. To thread, I reverse the wood into a compression hold and do the threading such as you have described plus final adjustments for my spindle. 4. I do not lubricate the threads as I cut them. Instead, I flood the threads with thin CA and allow to dry overnight. Then run the tap in again to clean the threads again. It does not take much. Afterwards, lubricate as you described. This firms up the threads a bit more. 5. Facing off the top side of the block, removes my initial tenon. But, I always cut a new one for emergency use so I can mount in a chuck if needed. Frankly, I have never had to do this. I have 2 or 3 dozen floating around my shop. Again, good job. As you can tell, I love using these blocks. I keep at least a dozen at ready for adaptation. Alan
@WYOMINGWOODTURNER
3 жыл бұрын
Nice to hear from you. I just had to make a mention (previously) of the bandsaw blade being exposed on some saws. Mine is totally enclosed with a guard. It does sit in a slot but can't be reached. Re: the drive blocks. I also have many of these sitting around the shop. They start out around 9-10" in diameter and then just get smaller over time. I like the idea of glueing on a large block to a small threaded piece. Some very good ideas, Thanks Sam
@carolriley8472
3 жыл бұрын
Very informative video...thanks! I plan to use this method to make some threaded waste blocks and eliminate the hot glue. I've had my Bealle tap for 2 years and it's time to put it to work.
@davidmorgan7522
3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Sam! I've a few glue blocks and drive blocks using that procedure. Take care, Dave
@fergusrb
8 ай бұрын
I just got a Beal tap and was wondering about drilling and hitting the chuck. You gave me some options. I then started thinking, I know that is dangerous ha ha. when you cut your poplar squares you should be able to find the center of the block and drill it on the drill press. Then take your block to your bench vice and tap the hole. All the videos show tapping on the lathe to make it square. Screwing a free hand tap hole on the spindle would be square to each other but the face and edge of the blank would not. You could then cut it round on the band saw and then screw it to the spindle. Everyone trues up the face and edges once the drilling and tapping is complete. I think drilling and tapping by hand at the bench vice would work the same way. Thanks for the new insights you gave me.
@coolcat9327
3 жыл бұрын
I Own several glue blocks that I made with the Beale tap. It’s very economical to keep several and it frees up my scroll chuck and face plates. I used one to turn a small bowl this afternoon.
@johnwallace4408
3 жыл бұрын
Excellent video, Sam. I also use the Beal Tap. My drive blocks are coated with 2 coats of ca glue to strengthen the threads. If one does this, be sure to run the tap back through after the CA is completely dry for proper thread clearance. Another great video, Sam!
@rayswann9080
3 жыл бұрын
A new twist to the holding the job issue. Good idea Sam. Mike Waldt has a good vid on this issue and uses a nut epoxied into the wood block. I have made a few of these. My local supplier had a box of M33 stainless steel nuts at A$4 a piece. The nut makes trueing up easier in that you can eyeball your hole, drill it, chisel it to the hex shape, epoxy it and then true the completed job in the lathe. These days I screw the waste block to the drive block and so none of the drive block is sacraficed.
@bernardfutter650
3 жыл бұрын
Easier still if you can find the right round nut. I use automotive track rod ends, but M33 motorcycle nuts come rather dear. Bernard.
@peterwaters5536
Жыл бұрын
Sam I tap 1/4 x 20 holes in my R/C model airfraft for holding the wings on. But I then add cyano thin glue to the holes and retap. This makes the tapped hole thread much stronger to last longer with removing and installing the wings.
@oldgeezer1746
2 жыл бұрын
Another finer point of these direct thread blocks is to add a 3/8" (plus a 32nd) hole in the side so you can get it to turn off when you are done using it.
@bernardfutter650
3 жыл бұрын
In my early turning days I used a Beall tap to save buying face plates, preparing my blocks just as you have shown, Sam. My first rigid sanding disc was made as a lathe accessory that way, fitting the table to the banjo. Also, as my lathe had a solid headstock spindle; a Morse taper attachment. Valuable, but now obsolete, experience. Bernard.
@WYOMINGWOODTURNER
2 жыл бұрын
Interesting...we all had to make do, in the early days. Sam
@toniiliev851
3 жыл бұрын
чудесен урок.браво..
@oldgeezer1746
2 жыл бұрын
I've found that starting with an 1 1/4" bit for about an 1/8" recess gives you a good shoulder to register against. Then complete the hole with the 1 1/8" bit to tap into.
@PHIL_S
3 жыл бұрын
Your timing is AGAIN erfect since I just got my new lathe and need bigger drive blocks - thanks for sharing
@dannyboy9784
2 жыл бұрын
Great video Sam, I need to do a few of these...thx :)
@everettvancampen3315
3 жыл бұрын
Thank you Sam
@scottsimpey2965
3 жыл бұрын
Thanks a lot for sharing Sam. I have had one of those taps for about a year, if not longer, but the handful of times that I have tried making blocks like that or glue blocks I haven’t been successful and couldn’t seem to understand what I was doing wrong. I’m going to give it a try again first chance I get. Thanks again.
@RadioFaceWoodWorks
3 жыл бұрын
Could not be more timely ...borrowed my buddy's tap to make some drive blocks today...was just headed to the shop to do it ...very sarendipotis 😀 have a great weekend... stay safe...press on 😎 Joe
@gregchapman729
Жыл бұрын
Thanks Sam, another good video.
@jerrystark3587
2 жыл бұрын
Both interesting and helpful.. Thank you!
@Penner-49
3 жыл бұрын
Thanks again Sam!!!! I might never tap a drive block, but you just showed us it can be done, & how to-do it.....( the sound isn't that bad)
@vicschapansky541
2 жыл бұрын
I have tapped several waste blocks, I did it by drilling waste block which was mounted on a face plate. I drilled it out on the lathe first. Then I took the face plate and waste block off put it in a vice with faceplate up. I fed the tap through the faceplate in order to keep it straight and for even threads. Lots of lubrication to keep things cool. Have you tried this method?
@jimjohnson1901
3 жыл бұрын
Scrape the tap onto a bar of beauty soap. I do it all the time for screws. Jim.
@dtork47
3 жыл бұрын
Great idea, I need to make some of those.
@billy19461
3 жыл бұрын
I need to make several of these. Thanks for sharing Sam!
@miftahrent_jogjaa
3 жыл бұрын
Wow creative bro...
@richardchiswell6517
3 жыл бұрын
Sam they work well don't they. I keep a stock of Nylon 66 blocks threaded for my live centre which I can then turn into the desired profile if I am making something a bit different that requires tailstock support.
@bernardfutter650
3 жыл бұрын
Yes, Nylon 66 threads very easily and I use it at headstock and tailstock for special accessories, including as mandrel saver for my own design of pen mandrels. Bernard.
@WYOMINGWOODTURNER
2 жыл бұрын
Great tip! Sam
@MarklTucson
3 жыл бұрын
I need to do that. I have the Beal tap, just haven’t used it yet
@glencrandall7051
3 жыл бұрын
An opening with two American Beauties. Way to go Sam. This was a great tutorial on threaded waste blocks. I have seen several others but yours is much more detailed on the use of the Beall tap. Do you think there is any advantage to hardening the finished threads with CA? Thank you for sharing. Have a great day and stay safe.
@bernardfutter650
3 жыл бұрын
Yes, I use English Sycamore, which is so hard when fully dry that one can economise by using end grain branch wood, but is still improved with CA glue. I lubricate my threads with Petrolatum jelly from the baby care section of the supermarket. Bernard.
@richardchiswell6517
3 жыл бұрын
I used to use CA glue just as you have suggested but over tge last few years have found in practical terms it makes no difference.
@riskmandel1
2 жыл бұрын
I always learn so much from your videos! Thank you! I’m a new-ish turner and I always have trouble with that last little nub at the bottom. How do you finish when you take it off the drive block? A Dremel tool?
@WYOMINGWOODTURNER
2 жыл бұрын
I carefully use a scraper. Start below the nub and lower the handle and then move the edge to the left. No dremels Sam
@xavierlopez2839
3 жыл бұрын
I would like to make a few of these. What size forstner bit did you use?
@WYOMINGWOODTURNER
2 жыл бұрын
I can't remember. You just use one slighlty smaller than the tap-sorry. Sam
@trurex007lee7
3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Sam. QQQ: I have a 1” drive center, why can’t a 1” nut embedded into a drive block be just as good if only need 3-4 different blocks for the small shop?
@WYOMINGWOODTURNER
2 жыл бұрын
Yes I do this as well I will address this comment further in my next Notes from the Turning Shop video for January
@MrSawdust85222
3 жыл бұрын
Hmmm, seems a bit overly complicated. Why not drill your hole on the drill press. You can also tap the hole on the drill press before mounting the block on the lathe to true it to the hole. More than one way to skin a cat I guess.
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