I live in a place where charcoal is not needed for cooking. But on our farm we use large kilns to make charcoal for biochar. We add our crushed charcoal to the compost, and then to our gardens to increase the fertility of the soil. We use pruingings and "waste" wood that would otherwise become a fire hazard to improve our soils. Your two barrel system is simple, and will make large amounts of charcoal, both for cooking and for soil improvement. Thank you for sharing your idea.
@jackdelang4301
2 жыл бұрын
It would be great to see what you are doing..
@stephensmith799
9 ай бұрын
The ‘combustion chamber’ provided by the second drum is an EXCELLENT idea. Great vid!
@annetjonameeuw1178
3 жыл бұрын
Thank u for sharing your knowledge. I will try to make it. Many thanks. You have such a peacefull and calming voice😀
@LonGin-gp2cr
Ай бұрын
These videos are so cool. We lived for thousands of years without high technology that we don't need
@vudu8ball
2 жыл бұрын
You inspire me. In the west we have lost all this knowledge. Thank you for showing me how to live simply but well.
@fluorescentblack4336
2 жыл бұрын
These videos are very interesting, calming and full of good advice. You are a great teacher. ขอบคุณมาก
@andyng3432
3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for sharing so very generous and unselfish of you. I have about 30 cashew trees that are too old and so will need to clear and replant and the wood will be used to make the “activated charcoal” with your simple and easy method. We are in Sisaket, Phusing district.
@kyleb3754
3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for sharing your great knowledge!
@mertlandglen9969
3 жыл бұрын
Love this video. I learned something from it. But my suggestion is welding a handle on the lid just like you did on the sides of the drum. Hope this makes sense.
@seanmanwill2002
3 жыл бұрын
Great video! Thank you from Washington State, USA.👏👍
@juhakukka7340
3 жыл бұрын
really great ideas, have to go looking for a couple of barrels, regards from Finland
@michaelhemmingartist
3 жыл бұрын
Excellent video. Very informative and interesting, thank you.
@mayurbhave2298
2 жыл бұрын
I have started making charcoal using your method. Thank you very much for sharing this knowledge. I want to promote this method further in Pune, India.
@koningbolo4700
3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the lesson...
@alleblue
3 жыл бұрын
Learned something new..about using charcoal to filter water...thank you for such a great educational video
@garthwunsch
3 жыл бұрын
He created a very detailed video on this process for their compound.
@d.j.robinson9424
3 жыл бұрын
Very informative, great respect to you from heyworth Illinois, Bless you and your family. 👋💛
@harvwalton3282
3 жыл бұрын
Amazing video! Very impressed! Keep up the great work!
@bigred35089
2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for your very well put together video. Excellent editing and voice over.
@mateosanchez503
3 жыл бұрын
Thanks! Best how to video on this subject.
@Daniel-lm5ry
3 жыл бұрын
Great job and thank you for the information.
@dennisconrad6124
3 жыл бұрын
I really enjoyed the video. I watch the one about your water filter system too. That was really good too. I’d like to make one myself.
@CaptainSwoop
Жыл бұрын
Excellent video. Very helpful. Thanks from Australia
@Coyot0xx0
3 жыл бұрын
You sound like a very good man. Thank you for sharing your knowledge with the world!
@alvesthegreat
2 жыл бұрын
I second that.... His voice tell me he has a clean heart
@myth-termoth1621
3 жыл бұрын
Nice technique, and descriptive narration make for informative video.
@doughunter3967
3 жыл бұрын
Respect from Canada and Thanks!...Creator bless you and yours...doug
@tullydj2
3 жыл бұрын
Excellent video, thank you. Charcoal is also great to mix in garden soil as it harbors millions of beneficial micro-organisms in its many holes.
@venusreena2532
2 жыл бұрын
Yup... ever try to plant seeds in a camp fire base?
@GregoryJByrne
2 жыл бұрын
Actually charcoal has higher magnetic properties and attracts more of eth earth's magnetosphere which is why it improves soil. Terra preta. "For what will it profit a man if he gains the whole world, and loses his SOUL? Jesus Mark 8:36 NKJV Grade 5 science could debunk CO2 caused climate change. Cause and effect, Closed loop and energy is neither created nor destroyed. On this planet. All EM energy comes from the center of the galaxies double torus Nucleus/Bulge. Temp is rising first and CO2 follows. Cause and effect. Earth is a 4.5 Billion year old closed CO2 loop that self regulates CO2 with life by combining CO2 with H2O to capture the EM energy of the galaxy via the Sun and create life. The galactic Milankovitch cycles cause our climate cycles. The 240,000 year rotation of the Galactic Bulge causes increases and decreases in the amount of EM energy we receive from the galactic nucleus/bulge every 60,00 years when we go from perihelion tropical age to aphelion tropical age. Eccentricity Obliquity. But the really inconvenient truth about the galactic Milankovitch cycles causing our climate cycles is the 26,000 year precession of the north star. Every 12,000 years half the Great Year our solar system crosses over thru our galaxies double torus electromagnetic gravitational plane for a 1,000 years. NOW for the next Millennia. Causing EMP pillars of fire like what shut down Texas's power grid due to Z pinching. Oort cloud comet impacts like the comet that crashed over Russia. and Global EAST to WEST cataclysmic Tsunami's that wash over the continents at 800 mph and freeze into the continental glaciers lowering sea levels. Gobekli tepe was the last time we crossed the galactic plane and was buried by 19 different e-w tsunami's. The Asiatic babylonian people of Gobekli tepe moved north to get away from the ever increasing tsunami heights and the pillars of Fire (Richat structure) into the underground city of Derenkuyu. Younger Dryas and Clovis people was also 12,000 years ago. Welcome to the END TIMES>< Jesus loved all races because there is only one race and one minority, the HUMAN race and INDIVIDUAL human. Don't let the Brood of Vipers Divide and Conquer you along race creed and religion. slave is equal to master. We all came from our mothers as equals. We are all the sum of our life's experiences, teachings and circumstances.
@alb.patrickke5243
3 жыл бұрын
Jon, I came across your channel just a while back- watched so far this video and the other about making own water filter. I plan to apply both of your simple yet sensible technologies in my holiday property in the Philippines once travel restrictions due to the pandemic subside. I hope others will be inspired by what you do just like me. Many thanks for sharing.
@westgatehygienecleaningsol3442
2 жыл бұрын
Am inspired 💯% I must do it for my community too,this what humanity is all about
@thengbon84
3 жыл бұрын
Thankyou sir.. difinately I'm going to try ur technic of making charcoal...
@scottsnodgrass4361
Жыл бұрын
Very nice project. Thank you!
@wilsonsousa9961
3 жыл бұрын
Thank you sir. I Will do in Brasil. Bless you.
@warrenseptoo8795
2 жыл бұрын
very informative video. thank you. one question.how do we clean the charcoal drum after years of filtering
@HawaiiLimey
2 жыл бұрын
Great video, I plan on using this technique for cooking, biochar to improve soil and to filter rain water. I live directly above a volcano in Hawaii!
@chinabeach82
10 ай бұрын
That was interesting. Thank you 🇬🇧 🇹🇭
@jayurehman
3 жыл бұрын
Thanks, It added information to us. I will do it, to make my own water filter
@ecorevurbanfarms5366
3 жыл бұрын
great video, thank you
@b_ks
Жыл бұрын
Interesting and well presented. Thank you.
@realiteorganics
8 ай бұрын
Very info video. One question, how can we know fire has reached bottom of the drum
@izinau
3 жыл бұрын
Gotta love these guys who know how to do things.
@poopsmcgee5610
2 жыл бұрын
Such a detailed and comprehensive explanation of the process. Thank you. One question. Why wouldn't they use the angle grinder to cut out the ends? Only thing I can think of is that they want to preserve the blades.
@JonJandaiLifeisEasy
2 жыл бұрын
Grinder is too slow to cut .
@tectalabyss
3 жыл бұрын
Thank you Sir. I Liked,shared and Subscribed. All my very best.
@senthilkumarvs83
3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for sharing a great idea
@TheTmnatr
3 жыл бұрын
Nice job on the video. It must have taken quite a bit of work. I appreciate you sharing it with us.
@kojomensah7474
3 жыл бұрын
Thanks very much for sharing this information
@maximinoligaray2313
3 жыл бұрын
Thnks God bro and God bless you more techniques frm Philippines
@zwarst
3 жыл бұрын
Like the process thanks for the clear instructions.
@tonychavez4056
3 жыл бұрын
Plus the extra bits. Especially the one in which he replaces the bricks in for the big rocks. Happy I saw him make those actions.
@bendangwatipongen1932
Ай бұрын
Thank you Sir for sharing your knowledge
@lauriewilliams8221
3 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much sir, watching you explain it beautifully from AUSTRALIA.🆗🦘🦘🦘🦘🦘Kangaroo here. I will make a small kiln first, then see how it turns out. ALL THE BEST. I LIKED & SUBSCRIBED.
@HappilyIndian
3 жыл бұрын
Sir a small but important suggestion... please put the hot barrel on a few bricks instead of directly on ground... in vedic scriptures it is said to hurt mother earth if anything (including a small burning candle/diya) is kept directly on earth... perhaps to save any microbes below.... so PLEASE AVOID KEEPING A HOT BURNING VESSEL DIRECTLY ON EARTH 🙏🏼👍🙏🏽
@lauriewilliams8221
3 жыл бұрын
@@HappilyIndian Thank you for the reply🦘🦘
@antoniobennett5330
2 жыл бұрын
Good call I'm recently obsessed with charcoal
@philipowino7683
Жыл бұрын
Great info, just one part I didn't get.. You know the burning has finished by looking at the color of the drum or the flame or timing? I gues timing depends on the kind of wood you're burning. Which is the most accurate way? Can we use a thermogun to determine based on temperature?
@lakwatserangobrvlog7299
Жыл бұрын
Nice it is very inportant in cooking
@interspeciesfamily8043
2 жыл бұрын
YyyyyyEssssss, SOOOOO many more uses. Grey Gold.
@femiboy1001
3 жыл бұрын
very good video and well explained
@CreativeRamy
3 жыл бұрын
Another great video!
@mr.mondesir7449
Жыл бұрын
Very good. You are a master.
@kurtremislettmyr7108
Ай бұрын
Love from Norway
@anonymoususer6334
3 жыл бұрын
Hey, I absolutley love your channel. Just found it, charcol and water filter done got to go. till later
@DirtySinusoid
9 ай бұрын
Also charcoal will float when you wash it for making a filter medium easily separating it from any sand or rocks
@jbrav0t271
3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this great info. Can we use rubber wood to make charcoal?
@JonJandaiLifeisEasy
3 жыл бұрын
Yes you can!
@marklane8499
3 жыл бұрын
With the coming economic apocalypse and medical tyranny, many in the west will not survive. We have lost touch with essential life skills. The knowledge you provide will be so important. More and more we are forming groups in our communities here to undertake tasks for the common good, energy, water and food supply. Terima kasih
@enrequieedios4657
3 жыл бұрын
Looking for financial and or co investors ( co investors can live on the property if you can relocate) to start a community off grid in semitropical, I ran out of money I found two lots I bought the first and than found the second one, I only need 25K USD if I get the lower investors the larger your share of the land thanks you
@HappilyIndian
3 жыл бұрын
Great idea 👍 Sir a small but important suggestion... please put the hot barrel on a few bricks instead of directly on ground... in vedic scriptures it is said to hurt mother earth if anything (including a small burning candle/diya) is kept directly on earth... perhaps to save any microbes below.... so PLEASE AVOID KEEPING A HOT BURNING VESSEL DIRECTLY ON EARTH 🙏🏼👍🙏🏽
@davemwangi05
3 жыл бұрын
@@HappilyIndian I've been hearing the theory about veganism for a long time and it appealed to be. But now looking at your comment it starts looking like a joke. So going by your theory, you should not wash fruits and vegetables so tht you don't kill the microbes, or you shouldn't even take dewormers, medicines, or bathe yourself 'cause you'll kill the microbes with soap. So what's up???
@HappilyIndian
3 жыл бұрын
@@davemwangi05 Whats up brother is a rapidly vanishing empathy for fellow creatures, pity
@kylenolan3138
Жыл бұрын
Medical tyranny? Covidiot, amirite?
@kathyjohnson4879
3 жыл бұрын
Can you please show how you would use the charcoal, example how to heat or cook with it. Thank you!!!
@ljiljanakakokad1211
3 жыл бұрын
Doas charcoal make water clean of bacterial and parasits to(in water filter)? Exelent video, tnx!
@MrLachupakabra
2 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@rajeeshpallikara8607
3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for your information.
@murumbamutekhele6278
3 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much for sharing. I water your video on how to make your own simple water filteration plant at home. How you given me simple method of Making activated carbon. 👍
@GregoryJByrne
2 жыл бұрын
Even filters heavy metals, which we couldn't do with our ROPU units in the military. "For what will it profit a man if he gains the whole world, and loses his SOUL? Jesus Mark 8:36 NKJV Grade 5 science could debunk CO2 caused climate change. Cause and effect, Closed loop and energy is neither created nor destroyed. On this planet. All EM energy comes from the center of the galaxies double torus Nucleus/Bulge. Temp is rising first and CO2 follows. Cause and effect. Earth is a 4.5 Billion year old closed CO2 loop that self regulates CO2 with life by combining CO2 with H2O to capture the EM energy of the galaxy via the Sun and create life. The galactic Milankovitch cycles cause our climate cycles. The 240,000 year rotation of the Galactic Bulge causes increases and decreases in the amount of EM energy we receive from the galactic nucleus/bulge every 60,00 years when we go from perihelion tropical age to aphelion tropical age. Eccentricity Obliquity. But the really inconvenient truth about the galactic Milankovitch cycles causing our climate cycles is the 26,000 year precession of the north star. Every 12,000 years half the Great Year our solar system crosses over thru our galaxies double torus electromagnetic gravitational plane for a 1,000 years. NOW for the next Millennia. Causing EMP pillars of fire like what shut down Texas's power grid due to Z pinching. Oort cloud comet impacts like the comet that crashed over Russia. and Global EAST to WEST cataclysmic Tsunami's that wash over the continents at 800 mph and freeze into the continental glaciers lowering sea levels. Gobekli tepe was the last time we crossed the galactic plane and was buried by 19 different e-w tsunami's. The Asiatic babylonian people of Gobekli tepe moved north to get away from the ever increasing tsunami heights and the pillars of Fire (Richat structure) into the underground city of Derenkuyu. Younger Dryas and Clovis people was also 12,000 years ago. Welcome to the END TIMES>< Jesus loved all races because there is only one race and one minority, the HUMAN race and INDIVIDUAL human. Don't let the Brood of Vipers Divide and Conquer you along race creed and religion. slave is equal to master. We all came from our mothers as equals. We are all the sum of our life's experiences, teachings and circumstances.
@jhelleshanne3120
5 ай бұрын
can we use coconut shell charcoal?
@gurjotsingh8934
2 жыл бұрын
You are a very intelligent man when you mentioned that there won't be any of the fossil fuels, I think you know even more..
@farroqt
3 жыл бұрын
A big fan of you jon from india
@TheWormeryLLC
3 жыл бұрын
great video !!!
@Tyranagon1
Жыл бұрын
After you use charcoal for water filter and change it. can i use the old charcoal to cook with?
@slickrick765
3 жыл бұрын
Sounds so sustainable...
@hamidahlouch7727
3 жыл бұрын
This wood u r using is just bambo cane so what kind of charckol it will produce ???
@slaplapdog
3 жыл бұрын
A line of wax down side of the drum can show you how low the fire has burned . Water in a spray bottle can also show you how low the fire has burned.
@lucensiascoKutwi-sw5pl
3 ай бұрын
Iam very happy to hear from you and learn how to do that.
@blackmantis001
Жыл бұрын
looks good, id suggest putting 1/2 inch holes on the bottom outside of the barrel and sit the barrel directly on the ground. This way one person could make charcoal.
@Tarun-lh9co
3 жыл бұрын
ive recently strted watching ur all videos .. all quiet informative and intresting... much love and support frm INDIA
@hvacstudent967
3 жыл бұрын
same, i'm in USA Texas. I love this man and his values, ideas and philosophy.
@WadcaWymiaru
3 жыл бұрын
This is WHAT Indians should know: kzitem.info/news/bejne/0WaPtHqkcnadopg - biochar power (beans and two farmers) kzitem.info/news/bejne/lnmw2WehgmqDnmk - bamboo biochar (hill+mikoryza) kzitem.info/news/bejne/uYeu2pyXm5eQgoo - 2fold (old image from USA past)
@johnchiz54
24 күн бұрын
given the tools you have available I would suggest welding a handle on the lid as well to make it easier to put on with the stick. all my other ideas to make it easier also make it too complex
@fransjebik8554
3 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much. 👍
@ohvnaq
3 жыл бұрын
for any charcoal enthusiast, check out BINCHOTAN CHARCOAL from japan, in case you haven't already known about it. it's heated to 1000 degrees C, is very pure, burns super hot and smokeless. it also has a bright clinky sound when hit with a hard object.
@philstat100
3 жыл бұрын
Thank You.
@johnbraby9971
Күн бұрын
I made many more holes in the bottom but the burn went too fast, 3/4 hour, and when I opened it there was almost no charcoal - it had all burned up. This time I will reduce the gap at the bottom to 1 inch. The bamboo I used was 3 inch diameter, but this time I will go 1-2 inches as you did. Will let you know the results.
@felyabello306
3 жыл бұрын
THANK YOU VERY INFORMATIVE AND SIMPLE
@seongwu-ssi8593
2 жыл бұрын
This is a big help to my research, especially during the pandemic that we need to do our research at home
@yochanantov5490
3 жыл бұрын
@ Jon Jandai Life is Easy- Can the charcoal be used for fuel once it’s been used to filter water? Thank you!
@JonJandaiLifeisEasy
3 жыл бұрын
Yes you can dry the charcoal and use for cooking.
@yochanantov5490
3 жыл бұрын
Bless you Jon.
@faouziagasmi1084
3 жыл бұрын
Perfect
@ramsaranbasnet6050
3 жыл бұрын
Thank you sir Namaste
@TheBeaker59
Жыл бұрын
You can collect gas for cooker from some charcoal retorts you can also use the fine charcoal to make briquettes for cooking.
@severinoferrer5669
3 жыл бұрын
have watched your video! Its very interesting and easy to do. But, what would be the difference if terms of quality and quantity of produce and also the smoke if the fire starts at the bottom? Please reply.
@JonJandaiLifeisEasy
3 жыл бұрын
We want to have less smoke if we start the fire from the top smoke will be burnt more and when we start the fire from the top it create sucking system better.When the air flow strong the temperature will be high too so the charcoal will good quality.
@petee716
3 жыл бұрын
Fire started at the bottom will burn everything to ash. When lit from the top air is being drawn in from the bottom. As the flame moves down the barrel it consumes all of the oxygen and deprives the partially burnt wood above it of oxygen and prevents it from burning . The heat cooks it (pyrolizes it) in the absence of oxygen. The flames at the top of the barrel is from woodgas being driven out of the pyrolizing wood. The space between the barrels provides oxygen for this "afterburner". The process continues until the fire column reaches the bottom. It must be sealed off right away or the fire will burn back upward and burn the charcoal to ash.
@lazyfretter2668
2 жыл бұрын
@@JonJandaiLifeisEasy You can also make a small adjustment and use the energy of the wood gases for cooking. So does the TLUD stove. For example: kzitem.info/news/bejne/unxuvIiibZ6iqXY
@kennethnormanthompson2740
3 жыл бұрын
Impressive.
@deecee1219
3 жыл бұрын
Well done......again!!! Keep up the good works. Can dried coconuts shells be used instead of bamboo?? Coconuts are more abundant than bamboo where i live in Ghana.
@JonJandaiLifeisEasy
3 жыл бұрын
Yes you can and that is the best charcoal.
@deecee1219
2 жыл бұрын
@@JonJandaiLifeisEasy greetings brother, i tried following your example using coconut shells. My yield was very small & 1 of the zinc roofing sheets used on the interior of the bottom drum burned completely away. I didn't see any blue flames & may have waited too long to stop the burn. Please advise how i can improve. I have videos i can share.
@davelopez7536
3 жыл бұрын
thanks for a chance to learn from you and subscribed
@tabithamogire9670
3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing
@maitlandmoore6426
3 жыл бұрын
What would be quicker , pound individual holes or cut out and add expanded metal ?
@GregoryJByrne
2 жыл бұрын
We used det cord in the military. Just wrap ignite and pop. "For what will it profit a man if he gains the whole world, and loses his SOUL? Jesus Mark 8:36 NKJV Grade 5 science could debunk CO2 caused climate change. Cause and effect, Closed loop and energy is neither created nor destroyed. On this planet. All EM energy comes from the center of the galaxies double torus Nucleus/Bulge. Temp is rising first and CO2 follows. Cause and effect. Earth is a 4.5 Billion year old closed CO2 loop that self regulates CO2 with life by combining CO2 with H2O to capture the EM energy of the galaxy via the Sun and create life. The galactic Milankovitch cycles cause our climate cycles. The 240,000 year rotation of the Galactic Bulge causes increases and decreases in the amount of EM energy we receive from the galactic nucleus/bulge every 60,00 years when we go from perihelion tropical age to aphelion tropical age. Eccentricity Obliquity. But the really inconvenient truth about the galactic Milankovitch cycles causing our climate cycles is the 26,000 year precession of the north star. Every 12,000 years half the Great Year our solar system crosses over thru our galaxies double torus electromagnetic gravitational plane for a 1,000 years. NOW for the next Millennia. Causing EMP pillars of fire like what shut down Texas's power grid due to Z pinching. Oort cloud comet impacts like the comet that crashed over Russia. and Global EAST to WEST cataclysmic Tsunami's that wash over the continents at 800 mph and freeze into the continental glaciers lowering sea levels. Gobekli tepe was the last time we crossed the galactic plane and was buried by 19 different e-w tsunami's. The Asiatic babylonian people of Gobekli tepe moved north to get away from the ever increasing tsunami heights and the pillars of Fire (Richat structure) into the underground city of Derenkuyu. Younger Dryas and Clovis people was also 12,000 years ago. Welcome to the END TIMES>< Jesus loved all races because there is only one race and one minority, the HUMAN race and INDIVIDUAL human. Don't let the Brood of Vipers Divide and Conquer you along race creed and religion. slave is equal to master. We all came from our mothers as equals. We are all the sum of our life's experiences, teachings and circumstances.
@YodaWhat
Жыл бұрын
What happens if you start the fire at the bottom, with all the wood arranged to allow airflow?
@KK-px4hh
3 жыл бұрын
Do we have to paint the drum every single time to see the change of color when it reaches the bottom?
@JonJandaiLifeisEasy
3 жыл бұрын
No we don't. After we leaved the drum for a few day the color will change itself from rust.
@branni6538
3 жыл бұрын
Observe the smoke........... it will initially be white and thick. When it's ready to seal up and take off fire it will be light colour vapour smoke almost grey blue and thin. Also no smoke is a sign to seal but be careful as sometimes the char can be overturned and crap for cooking or water filtering. Watch the smoke colours! :)
@branni6538
3 жыл бұрын
*overcooked not overturned.
@HappilyIndian
3 жыл бұрын
Sir a small but important suggestion... please put the hot barrel on a few bricks instead of directly on ground... in vedic scriptures it is said to hurt mother earth if anything (including a small burning candle/diya) is kept directly on earth... perhaps to save any microbes below.... so PLEASE AVOID KEEPING A HOT BURNING VESSEL DIRECTLY ON EARTH 🙏🏼👍🙏🏽
@yochanantov5490
3 жыл бұрын
Thank You! Sir Jon! You are Jesus’ sent as keeper of clean charcoal and for purifying water!
@davemwangi05
3 жыл бұрын
How does this compare to activated carbon?
@yochanantov5490
3 жыл бұрын
My guess is that companies are using the same thing but making it sound more sellable by naming it different.
@ecologiccorporation
3 жыл бұрын
*What is the fastest way to Charging and Inoculating Biochar.* There are so many method to do so,. which method according to you is going to be fastest way to use biochar structure for gardening , especially when it limited to pots and containers
@thechief762
2 жыл бұрын
Soak charcoal in water drum full of nutrients like fish emulsion, manure etc. It will take 2 weeks to fully absorb the solution bubbles will come out till the charcoal sinks down. That adds the nutrients. Then put biochar in an active compost pile, that will add the life.
@ravikantmittal4048
Жыл бұрын
Very good.
@alenaagape8673
3 жыл бұрын
Jon continue how to make wood vinegar from making charcoal ,,
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