I don't like The man repillent clothes thing. It puts the responsibility back on women to stop harrasment. It's men's responsibility to not harras, not ours to stop them.
@Vanity0666
Ай бұрын
I agree very strongly, it seems like the antithesis of the feminist project and goal of self-determination in its entirety.
@Its_Renzo
Ай бұрын
Literally! Exactly what I was thinking. Why is it always on the woman/femme presenting person to wear the right thing rather than on the men acting on and perpetuating misogynistic behavior and violence?????
@gabbyb9418
Ай бұрын
It would've been best if she made it clear if she doesn't support wearing certain clothes with the *intention* of repelling men. 1 I dress similarly because I enjoy it and get a similar reaction of men being too scared to talk to an extra looking girl. I'll get complimented by women saying that I look like a fairy, but men avoid talking to me like the plague. 2 That doesn't mean a man wouldn't attack me and take advantage of me if he got the opportunity without a moment's thought to my outfit. It's in no way foolproof, nor would I recommend any woman change how she dresses to avoid being harassed or attacked. Both 1 & 2 can be true at the same time. Social medias like tiktok and twitter are bad places for discourse imo. It's hard to make complex arguments and their algorithms favor short, inflammatory blips of thoughts and discussions, which are largely unhelpful or damaging. PS her outfit is fire and is 100% something I'd wear to my local farmer's market or a friend's party.
@xmfalconmad3513
Ай бұрын
@@ItsMeBarnaby The reality we live in proves that it's never been about what we wear. There is no item of clothing that will repel a r@#!$t.
@saggguy7
Ай бұрын
@@ItsMeBarnaby this is a false equivalency tho bc out of all of the evidence we have about what leads to sexual assault exactly 0 of it demonstrates any connection whatsoever between what a victim is wearing and an assault. Quality locks do deter most robberies because most robberies are crimes of opportunity. Sexual assault is almost never a crime of opportunity. It is in most cases the result of an orchestrated attempt on the part of the abuser to establish dominance over a victim. If most robbers were really just out for the rush they get from picking a lock then locks would also be a useless protection against robbery. There are things that people can do to become less vulnerable to abuse of all kinds but none of them involve what they’re wearing. Edit: typo
@gothamtruecrime
Ай бұрын
as a goth femme, pre-tiktok, men used to avoid me, now, post-tiktok, men equate the way i dress with a desire to be sexualized.
@greyfox4838
Ай бұрын
wasn't "hot goth gf" a meme before tiktok became popular?
@dinkenspeir
Ай бұрын
@@greyfox4838yeah I guess it kinda was
@eyemaysin
Ай бұрын
im a dude dating a goth woman it sucks how people fetishize them so much, shes told me im the ONLY guy who didnt sexualize her in someway IN THE 1ST text convo its insane to me. it also sucks for guys who are in relationships with goth girls because the assumption is that i fetishize her it sucks so much😭😭😭
@camcam5292
Ай бұрын
@@eyemaysinpfp instant W
@casadastraphobia
Ай бұрын
@@greyfox4838Kind of. But it was niche and mostly a joke. It isn't a joke anymore lol the normal ass cishet dudes are unfortunately not repelled by anything now
@Tortoiseshel
Ай бұрын
As an ace *and* sapphic girlie, I had to learn the hard way that there is just about nothing a woman can wear that'll make men leave us alone. On the bright side, now I feel a lot better dressing how I want to without worrying what anyone else thinks of it.
@NoiseDay
Ай бұрын
Have you tried a giant neon sign that says "men dni"
@heyhey439
Ай бұрын
@@NoiseDay tbh that would draw all the wrong ones in like a moth to a porch light
@merdufer
Ай бұрын
There is something a woman can do that makes men leave her alone, and it's honestly pretty fun. It's called a whole lot of chocolate ice cream and cookies.
@heyhey439
Ай бұрын
@@merdufer wym?
@NauticalTurtle
Ай бұрын
@@heyhey439 waist to hip ratio
@timelapsebroheem962
Ай бұрын
As a FedEx driver a good man repelling outfit is just our uniform
@zacharymorrison7376
Ай бұрын
I've never had a woman FedEx driver so I don't know how women look in a FedEx uniform 😂
@mariya_tortilla
Ай бұрын
@@zacharymorrison7376never?? weird its like 50/50 where im at
@theminecraft4202
Ай бұрын
the downside is that it's a dog attracting uniform 😂
@ScoutSilico
Ай бұрын
Which is worse? The purple or the other team's brown?
@leedouglass4106
Ай бұрын
Catnip to lesbians though 🏳️🌈👌
@intern_dana
Ай бұрын
unfortunately it doesn't matter if we wear a bikini, a burqa, or basketball shorts--we can't escape men's attention. its so fucking exhausting
@pretty_saucy
Ай бұрын
lol Just do what I do: Be hideous. Works all day, every day!
@Vanity0666
Ай бұрын
Unfortunately human beings are ultimately animals just like any other on earth who have simply attempted to convince themselves that they are different. There is nothing wrong with experiencing sexual attraction, it is literally hardwired into the human brain as a primary function of our existence on this planet.
@Googlymoogly-m8i
Ай бұрын
@pretty_saucy if being fat and hideous stopped weirdos I would be free from the shackles of men but alas.....
@Phantom-kc9ly
28 күн бұрын
The horror 😱
@lunaruniverse3777
Ай бұрын
I work in a home improvement store which is still very male dominated. I’ve always thought if I dress more androgynous than I’ll be left alone. A man thought I was a boy and then when I corrected him he hit on me. It’s not about the clothes it’s about the attitude. People think they’re entitled to a woman’s nurturing, patience, and empathy. Women tend to feel obligated to give a piece of themselves to every interaction. You guys are teaching me to trust myself when I meet a bad man because there are men who respect women and they wouldn’t talk about women that way.
@jngikfcmrhjicdfmnujc
Ай бұрын
I never really comment, but I have such strong feelings about man-repelling outfits that I wanted to give my thoughts. I also want to say that I'm autistic and very into aesthetic/art/styling, and have been since I was a teenager, so I have decades of personal experience. It's really upsetting to think about, but for men approaching you, I think it goes down to your perceived "accessability", and also a lot of men have a strongly built distaste for feminity. When I was a teenager, nothing I wore repelled men, and I was harassed far more then than I am as an adult. I looked young because I was, so to men with those intentions, I think they perceived me as accessible because of that inherent power imbalance. Also, if you're short, I don't think there's anything you can really wear as a woman to repel men, because your size makes you look "accessible", again, due to that inherent power imbalance. Besides those factors, I think a lot of high fashion/aesthetic outfits either repels men because they're intimidated by you (and again, making you inaccessible), or they have inherent negative beliefs about feminity, and view you as shallow/frivolously spending money/high maintenance, etc. I am ALWAYS approached way more by random men when I wear more "normal" or basic outfits than when I dress really well with my own style and aesthetic, to the point that I've learned to avoid dressing normal when out because I want to be left alone. Other things that I think come into play are the man's self-esteem, and also the inherent imagination and "projection" involved in attraction. If you're dressed casually and normally, you are more of a "blank canvas" as far as your personality can go, so I think it's easier for people to imagine you as matching their ideals. As the saying goes, it's better to leave something to the imagination, and I think that goes for physicallity and personality because people are excited by that mystery and will always fill-in what they most prefer if there's any romantic interest. Also, when people are insecure, all of their relationships can end up warped in this relational, internal desire to feel self-worth through other people in their life. If you, as a woman, look very well put together, certain men will really dislike you because when they compare themselves to you, they feel worse about themselves. They know they don't dress or look well, and they know that'll be more pronounced if you're on their arm. As a side note, an abusive ex of mine tried for YEARS (the entire relationship) to get me to change the way I dressed, and he told me many times it was because he felt bad about how he looked next to me because he wore old gym shorts and a t-shirt out for dates. He really wanted me to wear jeans and t-shirts, which is something I've never done, and I don't even like jeans due to sensory issues. God bless autistic rigidity, because I don't think most people could withstand years of abuse and problems caused by what they wear and refuse to change the way I did on that. On a note of the projection thing, any style that is commonly fetishized by certain groups of people (goth and alt, mainly), some men will always approach you because of that projection from their own personal fantasies. I also think Asian women have it particularly bad and can't really dress to repel men because of the intense, cultural festishization present in certain subcultures of people. People and attraction is really complex, but these are all of the factors that I know from myself, other women's experiences, and what I hear from men, and I personally find these rules and factors to be pretty reliable. Hope you find my thoughts interesting.
@NotApplicable2874
Ай бұрын
Thank you for writing this - this was an interesting perspective, and one I had never really thought about.
@sarahwatts7152
Ай бұрын
100% agree. I'm not autistic, so my dress sense isn't influenced by that - but the way I dress gets very different reactions from people depending on what I go with. Unfortunately, my usual clothes sense is appealing to a type of creepy old man, so I have to figure out how to deal with those interactions. Good on you though for dressing for comfort (both physical comfort and in terms of your style, which is mentally comfortable)
@FALL-LAFF-7477
Ай бұрын
A guy and also had an ADHD spectrum, also an native Southeast Asian person that had a history of fetishization on fair and bright colored asian, this one really good and understandable view I need to know. And really, people and their attractions also their own process to get that are hard to depicher unless they opened up or something else happen to them opening them up.
@lukeamann3393
Ай бұрын
I think something about the self-esteem point you made hit me hard as I read through your well put together perspective. I have seen both my ego and pride judge the outcome of my life for many years due to lack of experience and several unhealthy coping skills. Still are humans not meant to strive with other humans to reach a better relational capacity? I think we are all insecure in some sense, likely due to an all encompassing background rhythm of life. Idk..., I think what you said was awesome and I hope to be as well spoken as you someday!
@jane_gorelove
Ай бұрын
fellow "neurodivergent aesthetics/personal style enjoyer" queer femme here, this is absolutely true. thankfully, I have a bit more of inherent "man-repelling" qualities due to being straight up taller than most men lol
@morosenberg5571
Ай бұрын
God this trend TERRIFIES me because it's pushing the exact same old belief that you can avoid being harassed by wearing the right clothes, and that it's your responsibility. It just has a trendy spin to it. Honestly I think it's spreading because people see it as a fun way to say "creepy men have bad tastes in clothes", but I really need everyone to think deeper about what ideas they're promoting
@leahg.3393
Ай бұрын
Honestly this is a really great point that i hadnt thought of, thank you for bringing this up this is a really concerning aspect of this trend
@Shirumoon
Ай бұрын
This! There was a political art exhibition, can't remember the name of the artist, but she basically showed photos of oufits that men had used to grape women in. There was absolutely no "trend" in those outfits, meaning not more revealing ones or anything like that. Just... clothes that women existed in. Grape is not the same as verbal harrassment but it's the same victim blamey dynamics of "watch what you were or don't complain afterwards". Even I sometimes wear men repellent outfits but I am aware that it's more to feel like I'm in control (which is an attitude that keeps at least the milder men away) and not because I think that I can genuinely save myself from being bothered in them.
@noahsan92
Ай бұрын
yeah like instead of having these dozens of different things women must do to stay safe, why don't we just tell men to stop being monsters and cut it off at the source? i gotta say, it's incredibly easy to not be a predator -- i do it everyday 💀
@sonia625
Ай бұрын
I know right? This is what old teacher ladies at school used to tell girls when I was like 10: don't wear bright makeup, don't wear short skirts or shorts, don't wear anything that shows cleavage, don't dress "provocatively", don't "act like a slut", etc. It's the same shit, just with a new spin on it
@Havanah-ov4yt
Ай бұрын
Very well worded. There should be articles written about this and studies done
@janinewolverine
Ай бұрын
I have alopecia. Having no hair does not stop men from approaching you.
@cc24681
Ай бұрын
facts short hair/no hair is a ✨lewk✨ for some girls and they stand out more that way
@PanickinSkywalker
Ай бұрын
For some reason I got hit on a lot while I was bald during chemo, so yeah hard agree. 💀
@vl5008
Ай бұрын
@@PanickinSkywalkernot the chemotherapy rizz. 💀 Nah fr I messed up cutting my hair once and had to go bald. Alas we serve.
@saggguy7
Ай бұрын
In fact if you don’t fit the very narrow, patriarchal, white supremacist beauty standards I find that many men can be more violent in the way they they approach and talk about you. They feel more entitled to a positive reaction, as if they did you some kind of favor by giving you attention. Like a “who are you to turn down my advances” kind of attitude. Very scary.
@worm2976
Ай бұрын
@@vl5008Alas we serve is SUCH a line to drop
@patmccarthy7907
Ай бұрын
someone please give jordan a sword and one million dollars and film him for the following week
@banannarama
Ай бұрын
He’d probably have an epic battle with the katana lady from the balcony
@aj7058
Ай бұрын
The man repellant thing is like entry level understanding of patriarchy which is why it sits in a space that doesnt make sense. It is anchored to the idea that the gendered harrassment and SV that happens under patriarchy is about men's desires and aesthetic preferences and not a tool of oppression. A man repellant outift is never going to be a coherent or cohesive concept because it buys into and is built on what it claims to be rejecting. It presupposes that harrassment and SV is about attraction and that attraction can be summarised by what Jordan refers to here as locker room talk. It perpetuates desirability while thinking it is critiquing it. I think you all spoke about and around it in a really accessible way.
@JeanCaruso-uh3pw
Ай бұрын
I think harassment from men can be considered a tool of oppression but is also influenced by desires and aesthetic preferences. As a guy I've seen the types of dudes who will just sit out in public areas catcalling any woman they see, knowing they'll get 0 interaction, but there's also the type that will approach women in situations where a interaction would be forced, like their job or whilst eating etc. The second type uses this as a way to force the other party to have to interact in some way with the guy, and I feel like most of the time this is due to a level of attraction being present. I've seen guys go to extreme lengths to attempt to get an attractive woman's attention so they can essentially just catcall them but with a forced interaction, and this seems to be pretty common. Of course there's also the idea that many men hold that if a woman is wearing more "revealing" clothes its somehow an indicator of if she's open to being approached or not. I think the fact that so many men openly perpetuate this idea is a pretty clear indicator of how many men are acting based off of it.
@aj7058
Ай бұрын
@@JeanCaruso-uh3pw sorry if you got a notification for my rude initial reply. I shouldn't have sent it, it was unnecessary.
@JeanCaruso-uh3pw
Ай бұрын
@@aj7058 No problem haha, I didn't see it but don't worry
@Sleipnirseight
Ай бұрын
@@JeanCaruso-uh3pwEven if men are acting out of attraction and not intimidation, it's still a very self-absorbed, entitled and scary way to act towards others. Especially when the man knows that the other person is "trapped" and forced to interact with him. It's pretty telling tbh.
@raelrojas5263
Ай бұрын
@@JeanCaruso-uh3pw But I do think perpetuating that idea proofs that you are not exactly correct. The whole "what was she wearing" convo is born out of power, an entitlement to women's aesthetics and looks, under that power dynamic they justify and proof their claim to abuse. It is by all means a tool for oppression, in either direction. It is about who owns public space, and by extension who moves through it. The fact is what one was wearing never really mattered it only mattered that she was a woman occupying borrowed space. There is a reason trans women have huge numbers of sa's, it never was what they wore, but the disruption they represent. Dressing to avoid it only feeds their power and entitlement to women's bodies. It treats mens abuses as natural, and public space as theirs.
@Samuel_Caine
Ай бұрын
“Ribbed for no pleasure” was such a subtle and underrated joke
@kyleeky1ee
Ай бұрын
time stamp??
@kyleeky1ee
Ай бұрын
nvm 41:33
@JTjelly14
Ай бұрын
I recently got a TikTok of a woman talking about what she called "ugly privilege," which she described as being perceived as unattractive to men or invisible, which I can relate to. I live near NYC and go into the city often but have only been catcalled once in my life and never been approached by men so I guess my man-repellent is just existing.
@_Moe
Ай бұрын
I definitely have that, too! It's so nice. I wish I could share this privilege because I know that my experience is not the norm.
@freeky273
Ай бұрын
Pretty much the same. I've been catcalled and approached by men when I was underage (creepy). Now, I developed "resting bitch face" so people are too intimidated to talk to me (not my words). Tbh, I feel so relieved that I am invisible to men... I can wear whatever I want and they don't notice me.
@Unfortunately_Mickey
Ай бұрын
I have developed "batshit" privilege. If they can immediately tell you're willing to be crazier than they are, they try less
@melbapeach162
Ай бұрын
The worst thing is being firmly MID. Like too ugly for pretty privilege, too average to just be left alone 🥹
@melbapeach162
Ай бұрын
@@Unfortunately_MickeyGoals.
@hannamadethis
Ай бұрын
57:21 this entire bit of Anastasia speaking about her experience in how she dresses literally hit me like a ton of bricks. i realized that, while not the entirety of why i dress the way i do, this mindset is a meaningful piece of why i dress the way i do and how i slip into different roles based on the situation i am entering. if i know its gonna be a lot of men, i cover up, every time. it’s not a conscious thing, i just do it. thank you for making me feel less alone today. you guys are incredible people.
@hanahamilton7874
Ай бұрын
I had the exact same feeling. I teared up a little from just having the revelation.
@Sleipnirseight
Ай бұрын
This. If cishet men didn't exist, everyone would be dressed in far more fun, interesting, revealing clothing. We all tone it down due to the general aura of intimidation that cishet men either actively create or silently benefit from.
@hooniesdiamond
Ай бұрын
When i dress in my style of all pastel colours and modest lolita dresses, people sexualise my clothes or say that men dont find it attractive 😭 even my parents assumed it was sexual :/ it sucks so much that its always assumed women are dressing for men and not themselves
@bellarowe3723
Ай бұрын
the eye contact is so real especially when they think you're looking at something interesting but its literally just a wall or something 😭
@ryandeeken1554
Ай бұрын
it happens to me a lot at work and I sit right by a bunch of windows. so people always think I'm looking at something interesting outside 😭 I feel seen
@abigailjolene
Ай бұрын
When I was really depressed freshman year of college, I didn’t wear makeup, wore oversized shirts and sweatpants, had my hair either unwashed, unbrushed, or in a clip. Didn’t wash my face or brush my teeth regularly. Zero men looked at me. In fact it felt like I was invisible which I preferred. On the rare days when I wanted to feel good about myself, do some makeup, wear a cute basic feminine outfit, I felt like I was on display. I was so uncomfortable and anxious. Guys would stare or come up and ask for my number when I was studying. This affected me so much that I just stopped dressing feminine all together even after working on my mental health.
@hannahzwic5975
29 күн бұрын
Same🩵 i just hope i come across as gay ( which i am)
@alyssapinon9670
17 күн бұрын
@@hannahzwic5975I’m straight but because of my artsy aesthetic (dyed hair, nose piercing, tattoos, colorful clothes, novelty earrings) I’ve been mistaken for wlw by wlw. But let me tell you I feel so much safer being hit on by sapphics than straight men. There’s genuine appreciation for your beauty that doesn’t feel predatory and less chances of being lashed out at when you tell them “no”. Contrary to popular belief, majority wlw don’t think they can “turn you gay” the way straight men think they can turn lesbians “straight”.
@mauramaybe
Ай бұрын
On Wednesday I had my first experience with a very old man "filming up my skirt" I was wearing jeans. I didn't realize that people still did that.
@averydavis8698
Ай бұрын
Jesus, I’m sorry to hear that
@heyhey439
Ай бұрын
@@mauramaybe that's so incredibly fucked up I'm so sorry
@baturnbaturn1111
Ай бұрын
not that u asked for this advice but what helps me when people are crossing some of my boundaries is to just risk ruining the vibe. easier said than done and something I'm still drilling into me after many years of avoiding conflict but i've found that risking the vibe getting weird is worth it when you're around people who understand and appreciate ur presence. the message i usually want to get across is "i want to continue having fun with you, just in a different way please" . it takes a lot of time to kind of let yourself do that, and its hard because theres not really a script for it (and people can be assholes about it) but i've found if people can take it in stride, it makes things a lot smoother in the long run
@Unfortunately_Mickey
Ай бұрын
I just be mean instead
@NoiseDay
Ай бұрын
If you're having a bad time, the vibe has already been ruined. Speaking up is just bringing it to everyone else's attention.
@kait.5437
Ай бұрын
The MASH theme does have words in the Altman movie, it’s called “Suicide is painless” and I think you can infer why that was not allowed on network television. The show and movie are a lot different in tone and purpose. But I don’t diss either! Mad respect
@kait.5437
Ай бұрын
MASH is the only TV show in the top 20 (was top 10 until this year) watched tv broadcasts in the US that isn’t a Super Bowl
@LifeLostSoul
Ай бұрын
The lyrics of which were written by a 15-year-old in 5 mins after his Dad gave up on trying to write the lyrics himself They almost called the movie "suicide is painless" as well
@kait.5437
Ай бұрын
@@LifeLostSoul yeah I know they were going for “stupidest song ever written” but I like it haha
@genericname8727
Ай бұрын
I really like the lyrics and don’t believe they were written to be stupid (I know that’s what’s officially said). It really does just sound like a serious song about the topic imo. I feel like they just said it was comedic and absurd to avoid controversy around the actual subject matter.
@silvercoronet
Ай бұрын
Through early morning fog I see. . .
@oliviaaxland1505
Ай бұрын
52:07 as a lesbian i Have to chime in with my experience with this!! what anastasia said about men not liking a lot of makeup either is what brought this to mind. i understand this current conversation through the framework of gay gender roles as opposed to straight gender roles. i’ll speak exclusively about wlw here as i am not a gay man ! in lesbian/bi femme culture there is a recognized gender presentation that has been colloquially understood as butch (masculine) and femme (feminine). these can be further understood as two sides of a spectrum, with behaviors, clothing styles, and even jobs associated with each (lots of good resources online with more info about this!!). there is a somewhat common misconception in straight culture that these gender roles can be conflated with rigid sexual roles, but that isn’t true just as it isn’t true in straight gender roles. i’ll speak on dress specifically since that is what y’all are talking about! i’m sure everyone has an image spring to mind when they think of a masculine woman or a feminine woman, but butch and femme lesbians play up these roles in specific and sometimes exaggerated ways. for example, some high-femme lesbians will wear a lot of makeup and ultra fem clothing to contrast with their butch partner. (these roles are not strict however, two femme lesbians or two butch lesbians can date obvi just using this as an example) butch women such as myself will eschew traditional gender expectations by not shaving or never wearing makeup, or always wearing masc clothing. ok end of the mini history lesson time for my thesis lol i believe that these lesbian gender presentations have entered the popular culture through media osmosis. we are obviously in a very different time than the 80s and 90s and gender clothing expectations in the US are far less rigid, so the ability to both express and protect oneself are in our hands more than ever. alongside this gender based harassment is openly talked about in ways it never has been. so naturally women are doing what they have always done in secret: finding ways to protect themselves and communicating it to other women, but with the ability to do so en masse. i think this woman’s outfit has definitely prevented men from speaking to her in public, as people on tik tok often interact differently on the platform than they would in real life, typically more openly and bombastically. honestly some of the men commenting may also be like y’all and just be respectful enough to leave her alone. in conclusion i believe this has worked for her because it works for many lesbians i know. we are left alone when we overpresent gender roles, even if it’s the “correct” one. there’s certainly more to this conversation though, i just wanted to add my two cents!
@oliviaaxland1505
Ай бұрын
jesus i did not mean to write a whole essay like that! i wrote this on my phone and couldn’t tell how long it was lol. if anyone reads this i will truly be amazed
@noheterotho179
Ай бұрын
Huge agree!! When I was a tomboy I got so much unwanted attention but as soon as I got into hyper-femme styles I've heard men actively ridicule my outfits behind my back (a win for me as a lesbian!) While girls give non-stop compliments! Obviously this isn't the experience for all femme lesbians as clothes will never be able to control creepy men's behaviour, but I noticed when I started performing this hyper-feminine aesthetic men started assuming I was high maintenance and bitchy instead of a "Cool girl" back when I wore baggy t-shirts and gamer merch.
@Unfortunately_Mickey
Ай бұрын
That's too complicated I just want a cute girl to have breakfast with sometimes
@Shirumoon
Ай бұрын
@@Unfortunately_Mickey Lmao this comment! I am bi and really don't manage to box myself into *one* specific (queer) way of gender representation and I hate that I'm worrying so much about this. I too need a cute girl that just takes me however I am on any given day and that's it.
@russianbot8576
Ай бұрын
men don't like 'high maintenance', so i think there is some correlation to wearing the pastels and so on yeah. the demonias aren't enough tho. it's the pastels. i had steel toed demonias and dudes were all over me because i combined with red plaid and the like, not with pastels. so.
@chelseybrown2334
Ай бұрын
Lol the worst feeling is when your getting roasted and you mistakenly show it’s getting to you and they start going harder 😭😭 I will be on the brink of tears
@arsemagossaye9759
Ай бұрын
That sucks. That's just malicious at that point. You don't deserve that 😢
@chelseybrown2334
Ай бұрын
@@arsemagossaye9759 I know they don’t mean it. I’m just sensitive lol
@crowskinned
Ай бұрын
@chelseybrown2334 I don't know your situation but I need you to know that you don't have to tolerate anything that upsets you, even slightly, even if you think you're being "too sensitive".
@chelseybrown2334
Ай бұрын
@@crowskinned thank you!
@MalekWithoutFear
Ай бұрын
MASH is actually a strangely progressive show that holds up pretty well considering the era that it's from.
@charliekelly
Ай бұрын
Yeah. As a kid, I really idolized Hawkeye's dedication to taking care of people. I'd have to rewatch to be sure, but I think the only area where the show was frustratingly dated was in its treatment of women. It's kinda depressing because everything else about the show sets it up to be empowering as hell (women medical professionals handling the horrors of war with the same expertise and relative calmness as their male peers) and then ruins that by making objectifying jokes toward almost every woman who makes it on screen. I guess the 70s were still the 70s.
@Vanity0666
Ай бұрын
The show is set during the Korean War for a reason
@savyjett
Ай бұрын
@@charliekellyyeah, thats my perspective too. But i also think in some ways they were trying there too in that they let the women be humans vs putting them on a perfection pedestal.
@Batsweep
Ай бұрын
When i was thirteen, i was doing a fun town event with my mom where people (mostly young kids) were put on a scavenger hunt around the square. I was wearing a summer dress and glasses and was sweating profusely. Regardless of all of these factors, i still got catcalled. It doesnt matter what a girl wears, there’s a pretty high chance she wont repel men.
@freeky273
Ай бұрын
I believe it's not about the clothing that women wear, but the "aura" they have. For example, I am (unfortunately) a very "angry" person, I have a disgusted face almost 100% of the time, and I don't talk a lot. People said to me that I come off as "intimidating"/snob etc., or that I give out a vibe of hating everything and everyone, and people just leave me be. And as much as I hate being perceived as this "negative" person, I love how it makes me "invisible". Furthermore I noticed, that whenever I am going out and drinking, I become more bubbly, positive etc., and it attracts people, especially creeps.
@katc2040
Ай бұрын
@freeky273 thats not even true either lol I have dudes hit on me when Im in a bad mood
@Batsweep
Ай бұрын
@@freeky273 i agree
@Batsweep
Ай бұрын
@@katc2040 thats also true
@KymLikesGames
Ай бұрын
@@katc2040 True facts - this is when we get told "You'd look better if you smiled" ... can't win for losing.
@Rusalka6969
Ай бұрын
My gripe with people talking about "man-repellant" outfits is that it's just sort of victim blamey? like it puts the burden on women to dress a certain way to avoid unwanted attention and is sort of the other side of "well you were wearing x so you must want to be harrassed". Like I don't think any people in this trend are malicious but I do think it's not a great thing. Also while I'm not a woman and can't speak from experience, I am super into historical and lolita fashion and have heard from a lot of women in those communities that they're harassed *more* when they're dressed like that, not less. I think it circles back to what Anastasia said, it doesn't matter what you're wearing, this shit's still gonna happen.
@okquren9442
Ай бұрын
Being a goff/alt girly is kinda weird bc i have a 2 looks; homeless man and vampire forgeting what decade it is, both are men repellant to a degree, but then just attract a different group anyway. Dudes who think you look the most approachable or dudes who gives you way too much "i do be scrolling r/ gothsloots to find a lil thing like you" looks. Does not help that im short and small of boob, and old men keep thinking im a minor when im 25 and i dont like when they approach me to let me know they think im a child and want to talk to me.. Lol, now i get suspicious of dudes who hit on me like "which fetish do YOU have??? Is it a wheres the police kind? Or a polite exit kind?" Also, the anxiety of WHEN am i supposed to say "i have a boyfriend" in the convo without being BERRATED?? Its either "why the fuck didnt you say so sooner?" Or "why the fuck are you so narcisistic im just talking to you!" Like the answer is i did one bc idk what your intensions are, i dont read minds man go away PLEASE
@worm2976
Ай бұрын
There is no appropriate time to say it Those mad about being turned away will be salty regardless It's a him problem not a you problem sister
@sleepy_token.1
Ай бұрын
I feel like a bit of a sad boy today
@mariya_tortilla
Ай бұрын
as someone born female, i too am a sad boy for today
@briannenurse4640
Ай бұрын
Hope you feel better soon friend!
@SnickerTheDoo
Ай бұрын
Cookie for u 🍪
@briannenurse4640
Ай бұрын
@@mariya_tortilla May your sad boyness be short-lived
@cherrycherrycherrybon-bon2294
Ай бұрын
I'm a sad boy Yeah I've always been sad I'm a sad boy And I dress in all black
@giannahayes6721
Ай бұрын
as someone who has thought WAY too much about the male gaze and how to subvert it, i've learned that it's not really useful for me to worry so much. my joy in dressing how i want is much more fulfilling. and sometimes that is dressing super feminine and trendy, sometimes it is dressing like a toddler or androgynous, whatever lol. i think joy and personal happiness should be seen as a form of individual, everyday rebellion and rejection of the male gaze (in this case, it also works for other things too sometimes).
@alexandersweetboyo4242
Ай бұрын
The fact I misread 'posted 3 minutes ago' as 'posted 3 months ago' and was very confused how I hadn't watched this and there was so few likes and comments and even views-
@TurbopropPuppy
Ай бұрын
Sad Boyz lost media
@SharkUsingaComputer
Ай бұрын
its been three months babe pls wake up
@kirbybie
Ай бұрын
when i had these huge dyed afro puffs for a summer i CONSTANTLY truly constantly got compliments wherever i went but EXCLUSIVELY from women/femme looking ppl. it was ridiculous how men dont compliment women unless they're conventionally attractive
@noheterotho179
Ай бұрын
I feel like theres such a myth that men like pink hyper feminine outfits.. they absolutely do not. Creepy men hate masculine features yeah but they also hate hyper feminity, theyre looking for that "natural beauty" look (that requires a lot of make up and hair products) but from my experience, they tend to be repelled by hyper feminine outfits because it triggers some kind of "bimbo protocol" where they assume you're high maintenance and "fake" so they steer clear. At least in my experience, whenever i wore my most "13 yr old boy" shapeless box bleach stained t-shirt and baseball cap, i got way more guys approaching me but when i got into EGL/Ryousangata fashion... crickets. I heard some guys make fun of me for being "ditzy" but absolutely none of them said it to my face. This trend is for sure depressing but i hope it finally ends the myth that men are attracted to pink hyper girly fashion so that I, a lesbian, can stop being told I'm catering to the male gaze by wearing pink and heels :)
@rizzbusiness
Ай бұрын
On the eye contact note, I love to hear that I’m not the only one who is constantly debriefing myself on social interactions. I’m an autistic guy in sales. I used to make minimal eye contact because often times I can’t think if I don’t look away. I’ve started to also try to do it more because I realized how much it means to other people. I still connect with others the same amount whether we’re making direct eye contact or not, but it clearly means a lot to people. I started to notice those who I met eyes with while saying goodbye not only seemed more touched, but returned more often. Human nature is so funny.
@melissastory1993
Ай бұрын
I’m autistic too, but I feel like my problem is I don’t know how to make eye contact without someone taking it as flirting or intimidating. I was decent at juggling it all before the pandy, but now I can’t make appropriate eye contact, monitor my body language and facial expressions, *and* stay on track with what I’m saying all at the same time 🙃 Then I accidentally give people the wrong impression. That being said, I also just have so many neurodivergent friends and family that I don’t get that much practice masking these days. 90% of the people I interact with on a regular basis won’t even notice if I don’t make eye contact, or they know I’m autistic so they don’t expect it. Which is great when I’m with them, but out in the neurotypical world… not so much 😅
@rizzbusiness
Ай бұрын
@@melissastory1993 I work with a lot of women in my same profession who are also autistic and have a very similar experience with customers. They don’t have this experience as much with women or close friends, I think because they;re not masking as much and can be more genuine with their expressions and actions. There’s an idea in the autistic community that a lot of masking involves fawning to appease neurotypical environments, especially for autistic women, who are usually more harshly criticized for not picking up on social cues than their male autistic peers. Men who are blunt are just… blunt. Women who are blunt are b)tches. My female autistic coworkers are frequently either considered inappropriately flirty, or in the opposite direction, considered incompetent at their jobs because they’re more direct in their communication or are not flattered by advances. I’ve had to “steal” a customer from a female coworker because he refuses to hear what she’s saying, until I say the same thing, in which he is suddenly convinced and totally overlooks my coworker. It’s shitty to engage with, even as I do it to relieve my coworker of the customer’s stubbornness. There’s an additional layer of disgust/irony for me specifically because, I’m a trans guy, so I’ve experienced it as a girl, too. Weird to have to intervene now as a man to get these weirdos that won’t listen to their sales associate because she happens to be a woman, just so the transaction will end. Sorry for the ramble. I hope this helps you feel less responsible for the attributes people apply to your behavior. It will be difficult, but I’d recommend looking into a boundaries book and learning to tell people that they misunderstood you/your intentions. I’m still learning how to tell people they’re incorrect or that I’m not what they think. Apologies if you’re not a lady, I assumed from the username and it sounded like the experiences of my female autistic coworkers.
@KnotApps
25 күн бұрын
I have another theory. A lot of unwanted attention comes from creepy men, aka predators. Dressing very expensive and looking very confident speaks of a social status, which translates into a level of safety, as opposed to either being young, or dressing in a more regular way which means there are probably less resources at your disposal to make the men face any kinds of consequences.
@liahcontinentino9328
Ай бұрын
I understand wanting to avoid unwanted attention from men, but I think the man-repellent outfit trend is a dangerous one because it perpetuates the idea that women are to blame in cases of harassment. This idea that if you didn't want a certain interaction or even a life-altering traumatic event, than you simply shouldn't have dressed the way you did, leads to victim blaming, and limits women's sense of freedom to exist and express themselves. I'm sure we all find ourselves using clothing to avoid the unwanted attention every now and then, but I believe the real harm in this is when it becomes an internet trend. Men see these trends too and my fear is that it will lead more people to assume that if you are wearing certain clothes then you are "asking for" something.
@Mighty.Matcha.
Ай бұрын
I get your point but I would rather wear men repellent clothes than wait around for ppl to change.or to risk myself in to be in danger anywhere else near men.if you think about it this way that woman are wearing clothes for self defence it should be the woman who push these victim blaming onto others that should be called out on not the ones who want to protect themselves.and wearing repellent clothes are for occasions which we know we will have uninviting guests, a lot of us just want a dress code we can feel safer in. When we are around our friends it’s a different thing.
@jollygreenwhxre
Ай бұрын
the most foolproof man-repelling outfit is having the meanest looking RBF possible. whenever i’m walking in public, i don’t necessarily frown, but i make a conscious effort to look somewhat intimidating. i also stand up straight with my shoulders back and make myself look as big as possible. but i’m 5’7” and around 200 lbs so i do have a big advantage there that shorter women don’t have
@hotwaterisspicy
15 күн бұрын
I am a very short woman (4'11") but I have RBF due to lifelong chronic pain and it does not repel men. If anything it encourages them to come up and tell me to smile or ask why I'm so mad in a flirtatious way. There is no true repellent that works for everyone because men just feel entitled to our time and our effort and our space and our bodies and our presence.
@nebravsky
Ай бұрын
i've been approached in my most "15 y.o teenage boy taking out the trash because his mom is mad at him" outfits just as creepily as i've been while wearing the sexiest mini skirts i own. alas, there'll be no "repellent" for idiots, predators and douchebags as long as they exist and choose to behave this way
@mothmansuperfan7513
Ай бұрын
I appreciate that Jarvis and Jordan are able to say really relatable things about overanalyzing interactions. I signed up for therapy recently thinking that this is just something that happens to me. It's good to know I'm not an outlier, at least on here
@kingkooki7761
Ай бұрын
i am afab and i dress both masculinely and femininely, though i go agree that men prefer more simple outfits the only times i've been approached by men has been wearing a mini skirt and corset top, and the other, too big army sweatpants, and an oversized broken string plaid button up hoodie. men do not care what you wear, there is a man that would be into it. i definitely get approached less than my friends that dress "basic," but i do not believe man repellent is real. the only thing i can gather is that because i have very specific fashion sense, people think i'm weird. so just be weird?
@worm2976
Ай бұрын
Yea fr I thought I was doing fine on my quest till someone decided I'm "not like other girls" and therefore must be courted Spoiler : I wuv the other girls
@finneandowney3892
Ай бұрын
47:53 that’s the kind of outfit I’d start a conversation with them about bc it’s so cool.
@ResidenceSkater
Ай бұрын
Sad boyz black and white edition ❤
@xyippee
Ай бұрын
black. white. edition
@roxyndra
Ай бұрын
Jarvis: I hate olives Me: Would you say you hate... _olive_ them?
@stephe1506
Ай бұрын
Personally olive olive the olives I've met
@rebeccablaske8634
Ай бұрын
I shaved my head last summer and was totally anticipating to get hit on way less, especially since I often wear boyish clothes, but it really didn’t seem to make much of a difference. I honestly was surprised when I got cat called or approached cause I was like “no way this is what you’re attracted to”
@Mighty.Matcha.
Ай бұрын
It’s sad to say men would fuck anything.. I’d say different ppl have different taste so maybe if u keep experimenting you might find smth that might work.sorry to hear about ur experience
@kait.theidiot
Ай бұрын
personally I make too MUCH eye contact i fear 😭 like im not sure ?? but dear god when i’m meeting someone new i become so conscious of it (Im 98% sure im autistic (peer reviewed 💀) and also have anxiety)
@azariele
Ай бұрын
peer-reviewed lolll
@millystars
Ай бұрын
same!! im probably autistic (peer reviewed) and i always feel like im staring people straight in the eye
@duckscitomaster1308
Ай бұрын
peer reviewed? 💀 as somebody who’s diagnosed shut up you can talk abt this stuff but stop going around drowning out autistic voices when you don’t even have a diagnosis
@duckscitomaster1308
Ай бұрын
@@millystars😐
@duckscitomaster1308
Ай бұрын
@@millystarsthat’s literally how normal communication works
@hioute
Ай бұрын
I've been on the "repelling outfit" vibe since the pandemic started because I don't want people to get close to me and give me COVID, lmao. I'm kinda shocked that people would put actual effort into these outfits having a particular style, I just try to look as busted as possible. Gross hair, loose pyjama shirts, I always wear a mask in public places, and it's been working pretty well lol
@ekitkatt
Ай бұрын
I still mask too, people don’t say anything but they’ll stare or sometimes even glare at me lmao 😭 I just stare back 🙄
@Shirumoon
Ай бұрын
@@ekitkatt Same with the face masks. Virtually no one wears them here in Germany anymore and I feel like people judge me all the harder for it because I'm a young woman. But those people's approval won't fix a fucked up long or pay for long covid treatment so they may go ahead and give me dirty looks until their eyes fall out.
@heyhey439
Ай бұрын
There was a time in my early twenties where it felt like every week I would try a new public costume to avoid men. I would purposely dress how I heard men on youtube comments or other sources of unsolicited advice say they didn't find attractive (too much makeup, no makeup, etc) because I was just so tired of the bs I got from men in public. I'm sad to report that it just never fucking works. You gotta just wear whatever you want and brace for the uncomfortable moments and I guess just try your best to be safe. Luckily for me I'm noticing it happening less now that I'm nearing 30 and I love that
@tinabean713
Ай бұрын
Some women my age complain that people ignore you once your reach middle age, and maybe it's because I look young for my age, but I didn't find that to be true even when I was dressing for invisibility.
@sunitagupta-is5ku
Ай бұрын
@@heyhey439 so you are straight and don't want to be approached by men.
@sunitagupta-is5ku
Ай бұрын
@@heyhey439 but not every man you meet in public is going to be weird or creepy.
@heyhey439
Ай бұрын
@@sunitagupta-is5ku and?
@sunitagupta-is5ku
Ай бұрын
@@heyhey439 and nothing .All I am saying is that not all of them are weird and just want to meet and date people .
@cloverville1125
Ай бұрын
my perhaps overly cynical take that no one asked for is that there is not really such a thing as a "man-repelling outfit" because sexual harassment isn't Really about attraction - it's about power. and imo it's very reductive to flatten "The Male Gaze" to just a list of superficial traits that men apparently do or don't find attractive, when it's much more nuanced, and much more sinister than that. i'm not going to refute anyone's personal experience, and if dressing a certain way makes you feel safer, that's wonderful! i just think it can be irresponsible to make generalizations about stuff like this, especially on tiktok where there's a lot of young people - children, even! - who will take what you say at face value.
@someone-gi5lq
Ай бұрын
man repellent is just non-alt women discovering alt fashion imo
@kathleen_ohara520
Ай бұрын
i have a hard time with this trend because i understand it 100% however the phrasing might lead and contribute to the "well what was she wearing". if something happenes when NOT wearing an outfit like this
@unholierthanthou7748
Ай бұрын
As as alt femme presenting person i get more compliments from older ladies and little kids when i wear more extreme makeup and outfits and when i wear simpler stuff that's still considered alt i get more unwanted attention from men. A tanktop, skirt, fishents and quick eyeliner + black lip? Definitely getting some stares. But if i wear my huge platforms, chains, lots of jewelry and complicated makeup i inevitably get an older woman stopping me to talk about how cool my boots are. I think it's the confidence/presence difference. I'm a lot more intimidating when i'm dressed up despite being short but when i'm not dressed up i definitely look like someone who would be easier to intimidate or impress
@icantthinkofaname8139
Ай бұрын
The theme song of MASH originally had lyrics in the movie, but they were very dark [the game of life is hard to play, I’m gonna lose it anyway; etc.], so they were removed when it was used as the theme song of the show (because it is a comedy show after all). I really like the theme song with the original lyrics though.
@mariya_tortilla
Ай бұрын
holy fuck Jordan is so funny im in tears
@ansigatico63
Ай бұрын
i love it when creators i "look up to" (theyre not Gods to me but i mean, they have my dream job, theyre cooler than me) let it shine through that theyre also a little neurospicy
@M1nt.n1te
Ай бұрын
I’ve been consistently dressing in a way where only my hands and face are uncovered (frequently also including a headscarf) recently and it feels so good 1)bc I love fashion and I put together cute outfits 2) I have horrible horrible sun sensitivity and I like to be covered and it’s just like so pleasant to realize I enjoy this. I keep thinking about how nice a burka must be as a means of just concealing yourself from perception.
@lizardteeth1752
Ай бұрын
my great fall was in college. I was rushing to get to the dining hall before it closed and I thought "ill get there faster if I go in my heelies" (this was in 2022) and I was going downhill and a rock got in my wheel, so i fell over but was also holding a glass water bottle, because i love the planet, and ended up having to get stitches in my hand that night and then surgery on it a week or so after. I did not make it to the dining hall in time.
@worm2976
Ай бұрын
GOOD LORD
@KynrieFairy
Ай бұрын
In my experience, those outfits get you compliments from some men but it is often then polite and kind men who just wanna say something nice and leave you alone after. I appreciate them alot and they sometimes even put a big smile on my face without feeling harassed.
@leocoyote6579
Ай бұрын
demonias are the crazy-cool tall buckle goth boots she was wearing in that fit!!
@VexedForest
Ай бұрын
I'm autistic so eye contact is scary
@glupik1234
Ай бұрын
the whole conversation is backwards. men will harass you no matter how you're dressed. harassment is not about sex, it's about power. there's a reason why homeless women are amongst the most vulnerable populations in regards to sh and sa
@lotuseatingstone
Ай бұрын
i remember wearing a bandana tied around my head (the butch way, ifykyk), sunglasses, and a mask so you couldnt see any of my face, an oversized long sleeve sweater that had a wolf on it, shorts, and combat boots and a guy walked up to me and was like "wow youre so hot, do you wanna maybe go out sometime?" bro you cant even see my face. istg he saw my leg tattoo and blacked out
@LordThyme
Ай бұрын
Bro, this episode is hitting way to hard (this was in reference to thinking you can change people’s mind if they just understood your own perspective)
@michaelwithab9030
Ай бұрын
in my experience wearing demonia shoes and like super adventurous outfits doesnt stop harassment it just sometimes shifts it from sexual harassment to homophobic/transphobic harassment lol
@Wybi3
Ай бұрын
It’s like y’all knew I had food to eat😌
@kwkoo
Ай бұрын
somehow you guys always manage to pick out the perfect unspoken topics, being a person is hard!!
@jamiefarnik5595
Ай бұрын
As someone who's worn variations of subculture fashion for almost fifteen years, from steampunk to goth to now cottagecore and fairycore, I can definitely confirm that not conforming to the male gaze is a pretty big factor in man repellent IME. Fifties inspired outfit with a pencil skirt and halter top? Men act really creepy. Fifties style outfit with a full skirt and petticoat and button down blouse up to the throat? Nothing. Goth outfit with shorts and fishnets? Creeps out the wazoo. Victorian goth outfit with an ankle length skirt? Not so much. Of course no outfit is truly man repellent, as any woman who's been catcalled while shuffling to the store in pajama pants and a giant hoodie after three days of food poisoning can attest; but yeah, guys really don't like very "girly" outfits in pink, ruffles, etc and the less conventionally sexy the outfit is, the less guys will respond to it in my experience. A funny example of this is I'm not really a pants girl, much more of a skirt/dress girl, but I do have one 1940s style trouser pattern that I love and I've made myself several pairs of. Other women *love* these pants and I always get tons of compliments from women when I wear them. They're a pleated front wide leg trouser that's very "unsexy" by modern standards and men rarely comment on them positively while women love 'em. Fortunately I'm bisexual and the Katherine Hepburn vibe seems to really do it for a lot of queer ladies so I consider that a win and the man repellent aspect a bonus. 😂
@KathyClysm
Ай бұрын
As a person who has also fallen on an escalator in the exact same fashion, I feel your pain! When the shock wore off, it was about the worst pain I'd ever been in up until that point. Hope your knee is back to normal now
@viradechtis
Ай бұрын
Funnily enough, the only time I get hit on in public is when I am sweaty, or covered in dirt. If I go out after hiking, or gardening, there is 100% chance I will be hit on.
@heartysmartysisters
Ай бұрын
46:09 HELPPP I WAS ALSO IN SAFETY PATROL IN 5TH GRADE😭😭 THIS JUST BROUGHT BACK SO MANY MEMORIES WTF
@h3llsb3lls612
Ай бұрын
The idea that men are such a monolith that you can predict what they will all like or dislike is ridiculous. However your are dressed there will be a segment of guys that are repelled and another that are into it and others that just don't care. As others pointed out, it can't be our responsibility to dress a certain way to stop harassment, but also that's just not possible.
@ImANiceSprite
Ай бұрын
Here before it's live on Spotify 👀
@janiyalibby4770
Ай бұрын
I get so anxious about my drunk adventures even when nothing happens so hearing Jordan’s drunk story and realising I just thought it was a funny moment and not something horrible made me feel so much better about the time I’ve fallen when drunk. Thanks Jordan.
@SarahtoninSerum
Ай бұрын
I thought this would be a man carrying thing collab 😭. Excited for this pod though
@rivetingrogue
19 күн бұрын
I'm 30 years old and afab nonbinary. I have short hair and an undercut. Sometimes I dress femme, sometimes masc, often in very bright colours which might come off as childlike? It doesn't help that I'm 156cm/5'1". I'm not conventionally attractive or unattractive. I don't really get attention from men at all, except twice: The first time, I pretty much looked like a little boy, I must've been 20. It was winter, it had been raining, I was wearing a bright turquoise sort-of ski jacket that was a size too big, a knit hat, jeans. It wasn't late but it was dark out, I was almost at my front door. Just across the street from my door, a guy pretends to ask me about directions, which I gave him, and then immediately out of the blue asked me why younger women are often into older men (???). It was so baffling that I told him to leave me alone, ran across the street to my front door, and locked it behind me for good measure (it was a 6 storey apartment building). Again, nothing feminine about me even a little bit. My hair wasn't visible at all. Another time, when I was 22, two days after fully shaving my head to 0mm (I'm talking bald, I'm talking wet razor, it was for an Aang from ATLA cosplay). I don't remember what I was wearing, but I was very clearly waiting for a bus. The guy made me take out my earbuds and asked me out for coffee "to get to know each other." He wasn't particularly weird about it, if unaware of the overall situation, but it still made me uncomfortable. (My bet is that he was into the shaved head look.) Male attention is a total mystery to me.
@LordThyme
Ай бұрын
I relate so much to the eye contact and staring thing.
@curtiss.arnold1318
Ай бұрын
I'm autistic as all hell and so is my friend, we'll call him Zed. He told me a story when we first met about working in a grocery store and having the manager grab his chin and force him to make eye contact. Like, bro, you could have sued that dude...
@midwest_elf
Ай бұрын
I had an internship where my boss would constantly say I had attitude and was rolling my eyes whenever we spoke. I was just not making eye contact… I have a lazy eye so it is painful to roll my eyes. That agency can no longer have interns from my college 😊
@MisplacedRaven
Ай бұрын
I used to get bothered by men a lot more when I wore jeans or dress pants and they would ignore me when I wore things like sweatpants. But the unfortunate thing to realize is that the most man-repellent aspect of me was that I was no longer 16. So many men approached me when I was underage. Now that I'm almost 30, I think that it's now the short hair and facial piercings that tend to put men off.
@cc24681
Ай бұрын
56:00 i recently got my hair cut into a bob and i was kinda scared because i felt like people would think i was having an emotional breakdown when i really just can’t afford having my hair cut more than once every few years. so when i do get it cut its a dramatic change
@Uufda651
Ай бұрын
In elementary school I got my mom to get the mini gouda cheeses but I just wanted the wax so I'd give the cheese to one of my friends and just make little sculptures with the wax. My mom was ticked when she found out.
@monow5197
Ай бұрын
new episode sad boyz AND another jarvis & chad chad video? we're eating good today
@queenvictoria738
Ай бұрын
As a femme looking woman with long hair and is a bit overweight, I get harassed and honked at so much when I’m a mess/feel ugly and in workout clothes versus when I’m made up. I think that that shows it’s about who looks more like prey than anything complimentary.
@gurocandii
Ай бұрын
I dress very j-fashion forward, I'm into a lot of alt styles, I guess most similar to the last girls' style that you watched (lots of pink and stuff), I am almost never catcalled or approached by men, even on nights out the only time I typically get attention in clubs is when men are very drunk and just want to go up to Any woman at all, I wear really out there makeup and shit too, the interesting thing is last year is the last time I remember getting a lot of male attention. I was in the middle of moving so I was staying with a friend and all I had was limited makeup and few outfits bc of shit being in boxes and stuff, we went for a night out and I wore this short sparkly black dress which I hadn't worn in YEARSSS and I did very simple (for me) makeup which had a bit of black and pink in, so I was looking very basic for my standards and wearing a lot of black and no pink, and that night even just walking into the club past other bars and stuff I had a man shout something at me,,, so I think the man repellent shit is real! I'm also fat so I think that could be a contributor to why I don't get male attention during normal daytime scenarios outside of just my fashion and why it's only ever drunk men, but I'm a lesbian so getting as little male attention as possible is fantastic in my book lol ,, don't know if this made sense or if it was just hard to understand ramble my bad lmao
@gurocandii
Ай бұрын
All that being said I never go out my way to dress in a 'man-repellent' style, I just have always loved j-fashion and my fave colour is pink etc. Being fat & also disabled (not in a super visible way but enough if you pay attention to how I walk) has sadly just made me recognise that I'm considered undesirable to a lot of ppl, and the fact that it makes me undesirable to men is a win considering my sexuality but also I don't get a lot of attention from other women (outside of friendly compliments occasionally) so that's an L lmfao
@HywelM
22 күн бұрын
I've drastically cut my hair off and then grown it out twice and I did learn that the hair length that makes musty old men think you're straight enough to harass is approximately chin length. That can be true and so can the fact that this trend is completely misunderstanding why gendered harassment happens
@ldragon8480
Ай бұрын
first of all, Mash is an amazing show and wasn't boring in my opinion. Second, the theme song DOES have lyrics and they eventually use the version with the lyrics. It's a dark ass song.
@unfunnyclown5959
Ай бұрын
Just finished the JJGold video and now theres a new pod this is a great day
@GIRLdisambiguation
Ай бұрын
i was never hit on for the first 18 years of my life (which was very good for my safety, but not the best for my confidence) and i always thought it was bc i was a person of color in a white area but maybe it’s also because i was wearing bright 80s primary colors and overalls all the time
@Gwel_
Ай бұрын
As one other great comment is pointing, those trends tend to solidify the belief it's womens and non men's responsability to not get harassed. I don't think the content creators sharing themselves mean any harm. It feels like genuine sharing of "survival strategies". By presenting and performing your gender a certain way (i.g. by wearing "men's clothing"), it might feel like camouflage by "mimicking" the opressor's look. However, they will always find a way to police women's and non-men's bodies regardless of clothing. The trend really reminds me of balls in the 1990s where queer people would present looks and perform to practice their "passing" as a "normal individual". "Paris Is Burning" is a classic example.
@KeriBerry420
Ай бұрын
The MASH intro song, titled 5uicide Is Painless, does in fact by have lyrics however they weren't featured on the shows intro. Amazing song for an amazing show
@virtualprimatologist
Ай бұрын
Yeeeeeeeeeee refreshing my KZitem feed has blessed me
@heyhaileyjoy
Ай бұрын
I, too, have fallen up a BART escalator and been personally victimized by the jagged claws of the edge. Jordan is right, we gotta stay away from these trains.
@annak8604
Ай бұрын
So I'm honestly surprised none of the "man repellant" videos mentioned makeup choices. My sister and I have both talked about how wearing a "weird" lipstick color (like blue or a vivid purple) gets shocked/creeped out looks from men but littlw girls get really excited and will sometimes compliment the makeup. It's wholesome. But, like others have stated, this as a trend worries me because it feels kind like it could turn into "women should dress a certain way if they don't want to be harassed."
@elizabethnoneofyourbuisnes2806
Ай бұрын
Yeah, the pandemic kinda screwed up my ability to look people in the eyes when I don't know them well. I always struggled with it and it was almost impossible for me to do as a kid without having a meltdown at some point. After I didn't see people in person often as an adult it just fell off so hard. Glad I work from home now though lol.
@russianbot8576
Ай бұрын
the idea of 'man repellent clothing' gets popularity for a period with every generation and always concludes with: no. billie eilish's public faux pas got mentioned (another contextually important piece of info was her age being a factor; she was really young, still in her teens, and people absolutely gave her hell for being a misguided teen girl, ick) but tumblr also had a period of 'do this to avoid catcalls' full of millennial girls trying their best to find the secret formula.
@suyinsong
Ай бұрын
atp mention of a long bladed weapon needs to be on the bingo board
@greeny.official
Ай бұрын
as an asian woman who lives in a place in the us that isnt predominantly asian and likes anime, when i used to be on dating apps it was a nightmare since i'd get sexualized for being asian n THEN also liking anime. it just attracted so many of the wrong type of guy i got annoyed n stopped using it also demonias r not men repellant. if anything, guys irl would use my demonias as an icebreaker to hit on me in public
@sunitagupta-is5ku
Ай бұрын
But I don't think it is weird if they are doing it respectfully
@oops6876
Ай бұрын
Maybe if you guys get Jordan a samurai set up his neighbor will finally reveal herself to challenge him.
@arianesouthern5303
12 күн бұрын
EDS scarring is so crazy! I have so many scratches that drew little if any blood and are now are dark lines years later. Have had some recent success lessening that using cut-to-size hydrocolloid bandages on new injuries tho 👍
@yyrael
Ай бұрын
I can't even remember the last time a guy tried to hit on me in public, but it was definitely sometime before I embraced being a lesbian lmao. I think I just radiate that kind of vibe so much that dudes are just like "oh... nah."
@sunitagupta-is5ku
Ай бұрын
Or you are not attractive
@yyrael
11 күн бұрын
@@sunitagupta-is5ku lmao nah. I had zero problems attracting men when I identified as bi. Condolences for your repugnant personality though! 💔
@td23asus
25 күн бұрын
From a young MASH fan, who watched it on day time tv, it is a great show and honestly still holds up mostly. Its an old show so some things are dated but it's a pretty fun bittersweet show. Worth a shot some time maybe.
@niceentertainment5377
Ай бұрын
Hearing her say MASH is boring hurt me lmao it’s one of the best tv shows ever made
@Halfmoonbaee
Ай бұрын
Jarvis talking about the eye contact thing is so real, it’s such a human experience.
@hails1136
Ай бұрын
22:11 having worked at subway, i cannot imagine how bad green olives must be if black olives are LESS pungent. idk if it was just subway's black olives but those things were radioactive.
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