In this conversation, Matt Segall and Oliver Griebel engage in a deep discussion about their shared interests in philosophy, cosmology, and the integration of modern scientific thought with spiritual and holistic perspectives. The conversation begins with Matt expressing his appreciation for Oliver’s anthology (wipfandstock.c..., particularly the introduction and Oliver’s chapter, which he found insightful, especially in its critique of materialism and its exploration of Einstein's theories, including the possibility of a variable speed of light.
Oliver provides background on the contributors to the anthology, mentioning that most of them are familiar names except for Tilman Haberer, a German theologian and social worker. Oliver shares his personal intellectual journey, beginning with his studies in analytic philosophy and his discontent with its materialistic leanings. He discusses his early meditative practices and his philosophical development while driving a taxi in Munich, which led to his "many-one" approach-a concept he privately developed that emphasizes the complementarity between the cosmos as a whole and its parts.
Matt and Oliver then delve into the challenges of integrating holistic and relational worldviews with the current scientific paradigm, particularly the dominance of materialistic approaches in physics. Oliver reflects on the difficulty of engaging with the deeply entrenched materialist perspective in modern science, citing his struggles with the mathematical foundations necessary to challenge prevailing theories. He mentions Ilya Prigogine's work on replacing materialism with an emergentist and resonant worldview, which requires a different mathematical approach.
The conversation touches on the philosophical implications of science, with Matt noting that many scientists unknowingly engage in philosophy, often bad philosophy, when they extend their scientific models into metaphysical claims. They discuss the role of expertise and the need to balance inclusivity with the maintenance of rigorous, well-defended philosophical and scientific cores.
Oliver expresses his concerns about modernity's trajectory, particularly the mechanistic and consumerist aspects that seem to lead society toward a bottleneck. He emphasizes the need to preserve the existence of genuine events and evolution in the worldview, arguing against the block universe concept, which he finds absurd.
They also explore Whitehead's process philosophy, discussing its relevance to modern scientific developments and its potential to offer an alternative to materialistic reductionism. Oliver is intrigued by Whitehead's idea of a constantly updating universe, where each moment is a new emergence, and he considers how this might relate to his own cosmic holism, a view that places the cosmos as the ultimate, encompassing order of things.
The conversation concludes with Matt and Oliver agreeing on the importance of integrating spiritual and theological perspectives into their discussions. They acknowledge that their current conversation has focused more on the scientific aspects, and they plan to explore the spiritual and theological dimensions in a future exchange. Both express a desire to continue their dialogue, recognizing the value of their intellectual exchange in addressing the profound questions of existence, science, and spirituality.
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