@@troycote4503what’s that has to do with potential
@DraganUgrenovic-nh1pm
19 сағат бұрын
Martin is really good but he need more size in upper body ... Close but Derek is still ahead of Martin...
@stevemassa6802
19 сағат бұрын
I remember a day when biceps were a thing
@ChanceBloodstoner
18 сағат бұрын
Right lol why is Nick Walker the only one with hard biceps now. Bet none of these guys would let anybody come close to touching their biceps in fear of them leaking out oil.
@nemanja9275
17 сағат бұрын
@@ChanceBloodstoner Labrada has great biceps, andrew jacked has improved a lot too he just sucks from the side
@paulcox2447
15 сағат бұрын
Now they just stuff their arms with oil and call them biceps. No separation, just big ol lumpy "muscle"
@LASSEFITTA
15 сағат бұрын
@@paulcox2447 who has oil in the arms?
@bjf5027
14 сағат бұрын
@@stevemassa6802 yea, Dorian messed that up.
@FeltonFitness
19 сағат бұрын
Martin's quads are crazy! Would like to see more width in the back to create an even more accentuated V-taper, but stellar physique! Kudos to Martin on his 4th place finish at his Olympia debut!
@wchamp170
18 сағат бұрын
Apparently all that Martin, Derek and Hadi need to do is get about 6 to 7 in taller, lose their calf muscles completely, and develop nasty cases of gyno and they will now satisfy the criteria the judges are looking for
@get_walled
16 сағат бұрын
@@wchamp170 sorry not everyone wants midgets as the Mr. O every single year lol.
@MichaelHernandez-mv7on
17 сағат бұрын
Martin makes Derek look off-season
@woahblackbettybamalam
20 сағат бұрын
Martian was out of this world
@Supersetman
20 сағат бұрын
But from where? :D
@woahblackbettybamalam
20 сағат бұрын
@@SupersetmanUranus 😅
@acecutler6929
14 сағат бұрын
@@woahblackbettybamalamHis Anus?
@lucasdanconia
11 сағат бұрын
@@woahblackbettybamalam😂 lmao wtf
@thapelomaraisane8705
5 сағат бұрын
Bars
@cormacryan500
20 сағат бұрын
Derek should’ve never won last year
@NikosNikos-dr7wv
20 сағат бұрын
Neither Sam this year.
@Supersetman
20 сағат бұрын
Neither me next year
@a.k2156
19 сағат бұрын
You are all right. It should have been me all along
@LordOrderChaos
19 сағат бұрын
Yeah buddy!
@somekindaguy100
18 сағат бұрын
@@NikosNikos-dr7wvWrong
@DavidStacey-tx7on
7 сағат бұрын
Hats off to Derek, he knee his package wasnt up to scratch to win but he still had a smile and showed up for his fans, the sponsors and his own integrity, unlike Nick Walker
@mikthe2004
14 сағат бұрын
Martin bends way too far back in his rear double biceps pose!! We can't see his back at all!! Derek improved in areas, and his chest didn't flatten out in the front lat spread this year - or maybe he wasn't flexing it? Derek was maybe 5% off, and that was enough to drop to 3rd!
@woahblackbettybamalam
19 сағат бұрын
Its somewhat rare to see an open bodybuilder with world class quads and a small waist like Martin. Hadi used to have it but his quads have downsized in recent years
@paulorocha1772
19 сағат бұрын
His waist is smaller than it was in 2020/19 though
@GC-by6iz
10 сағат бұрын
Hadi's 2019 quads at the Vancouver pro were still his best by far.
@TheArchives-o9f
6 сағат бұрын
Short guys can only hold the leg size on for so long before the legs start going downhill due to nerve damage
@GC-by6iz
6 сағат бұрын
@@TheArchives-o9f why are short guys more susceptible to nerve damage
@TheArchives-o9f
Сағат бұрын
@@GC-by6iz they have too much muscle for their small frames and move extremely heavy weight for their frames ,so it’s always just a matter of time before some body part starts atrophying if they don’t get injured before that
@Nonixification
17 сағат бұрын
Maybe Its just me but I dont see why Martin is that good. Yes, dry legs but weak lats and soft arms.
@Aybee.AB-.-72
18 сағат бұрын
I don't understand how you can say martin has the second best back double. He lacks width, detail in the back and has poor execution in both back shots Edit: i agree though with tyler manion about martin having the best most muscular. I held that opinion after his detroit pro victory. Good to see it reciprocated and recognized by the higher ups😊
@jeremy6608
19 сағат бұрын
THANK YOU FOR ALL THIS CONTENT SUPERSETMAN
@ASthe5th
19 сағат бұрын
Martin just needs to bring up his lats.
@Sthiwatari
13 сағат бұрын
One day he will become Mr Olympia 😎💪
@smoothkk1
17 сағат бұрын
Martin has the bottom but needs more muscle maturity up top
@Tyler1330
55 минут бұрын
That's a very close match up. Martin has huge potential, but his left quad is noticeably larger than his right. Very noticeable but more time can help even them out.
@qnp1236
18 сағат бұрын
Idk man I think Derek wins everything but the last 2 poses and the ab and thigh was close
@bluestangGT2001
17 сағат бұрын
Derek's most muscular (in my opinion) is the worst single pose of anyone from the Olympia top 3. It looks so bad
@shredphreek
16 сағат бұрын
I called it right after Derek won last year...the weakest Mr O since Chris Dickerson. It will be interesting to see whst his next move will be, cos he will never be Mr O again, and Keone dominates in the 212..unless Keone moves to the open.
@drmarkp1
3 сағат бұрын
.. Keone could beat Derek right now
@robertbechert5380
11 сағат бұрын
MARTIN BETTER THAN DEREK NO WAY. DEREK WITH HIS 3RD PLACE FINISH AT 2024 MR. "OLYMPIA" HE WILL BE MOTIVATED TO BLOW AWAY MARTIN IN 2025 MR. OLYMPIA CONTEST NEXT YEAR AND WE ALL NO THIS. WE KNOW HOW HARD DEREK TRAIN'S AND THE SIZE AND CONDITION THAT HE BRING'S WITH HIS COACH HANI RAMBOD, LOOKOUT. GOD BLESS YOU DEREK AND YOUR FAMILY. ALOHA, FROM BRADA BEC. FROM: THE BIG ISLAND OF HAWAII.
@cgcrosby2
15 сағат бұрын
I am a huge fan of Martin but how can you say his back double is second best in the world? Nothing on his upper body is best in the world, unless you consider his waist
@joshuaclark1930
19 сағат бұрын
Rest In Peace "You have to KNOCK OUT the reigning champ..." - It's a big deal - this transition to what is ultimately a more fair means of judging the comparative physiques. No more protecting an implied legacy or whatever. Derek can't really do anything about his legs, unless he reduces the size of his upper body, for proportionality. Also, Derek had lost his waistline, already, just 2 years into his "reign".
@aisac21
8 сағат бұрын
I kinda miss the 'BOOM' when supersetman swaps a bodypart on an anthlete😅
@lifani7505
19 сағат бұрын
Next year the top 3 will be Samson .. Andraw Jack and Marten . My respect to you all .
@Sthiwatari
13 сағат бұрын
Congratulations for 26 k 🎉🎊
@DurinDaemonenmetzler
19 сағат бұрын
Very good comparison. I am deeply impressed how much Fitzwater improved during the last two years - incredible. Two years ago i didn't like his physique, but now, since he battled Nick Walker, improved his arms so much and got very aesthetic, he is one of my very favourites. P.S.: A Lunsford-Fitzwater-Hybrid could be interesting. 😉 P.P.S.: If Choopan had Fitzwaters legs and glutes from behind, he would be Mr.O 2024, too. To me THIS was his main weak point this year, his underwhelming legs from behind, especially his right leg, which made him look small.
@madmaxmel
19 сағат бұрын
Martin was the most exciting thing about the final, because this can be called a real breakthrough. The other 3 men in the final was pretty close, it was more that any of them can win as long as they are fit. Next year Marin will probably fight at the top medals, the year is a good time to improve his shape, maybe a couple of kilos more too.
@TempOrary-z3k
19 сағат бұрын
The abs-and-thighs goes to Derek by a mile. Martin's abdominals are so so so unsightly, so bad.
@Scottness1001
17 сағат бұрын
Not pretty abs but way more tapered than blocky Derek
@AminulIslam-yy3ph
5 сағат бұрын
Martin's most muscular pose is as like as Phil the gift heath
@janosvincze4606
17 сағат бұрын
One Giant , and 3 dwarf!!!
@LASSEFITTA
15 сағат бұрын
Whos the giant? 1 slightly below average and 3 dwarfs!
@atsilverine
20 сағат бұрын
Yes. 5-3 to Martin.
@Supersetman
20 сағат бұрын
who wins what?
@NikosNikos-dr7wv
19 сағат бұрын
4-4 with similar condition. The biggest problem for Martin was his back.
@TempOrary-z3k
19 сағат бұрын
The abs-and-thighs goes to Derek by a mile. Martin's abdominals are so so so unsightly, so bad.
@TempOrary-z3k
19 сағат бұрын
@@Supersetman How could you give Martin the abs-and-thighs when his abs are absolutely horrendous?
@samuelkebede585
5 сағат бұрын
Martin is going to hurt alot of feelings in the coming years🔥
@alexpearce4040
15 сағат бұрын
Derek won the side tricep, and dominantly so, I might add. I don't know what you're looking at. And I'm not the biggest fan of Derek.
@GC-by6iz
10 сағат бұрын
Martin's back definitely has the potential to overtake Derek in the future. He has much lower lat insertions and far more 3d pop reminiscent of Phil Heath, he only needs more lats width. As it is, I can already see a strong case for Martin in the rear lat spread as he is already beating Derek in the lower body and his back being only slightly narrower than Derek's. Rear double may take more time especially to develop the muscle maturity required to showcase the back detail to rival Derek although the potential is certainly there.
@kice9913
18 сағат бұрын
Martin cleaned up Derek…The only reason why he was not ahead of Derek was because this was his debut Olympia
@gabb05
13 сағат бұрын
martin has that 3D look to his muscles plus great genetics on all his muscle insertions. Martin just needs better arms, better lats from the front, and better shoulders. He's close
@jessemarkopoulos6116
17 сағат бұрын
Love Martin. His back double is usually fantastic. This photo is not good, I’m not sure if this is how he was hitting it all show but he’s leaning too far back and you can’t see the detail due to the shadow he’s creating
@GC-by6iz
10 сағат бұрын
eh i'd give the front lat spread to Martin here. Derek is better in the lats but only marginally, whereas Martin dominates him in the lower body it's not even close. Martin also has a tighter waistline further accentuating his x-frame advantage.
@GC-by6iz
10 сағат бұрын
i actually don't know how Martin can grow his back to be so thick and 3d but not much of that growth going to his lats width. genetics work in strange ways sometimes, it's not as though he's a very narrow guy like Phil Heath, Martin has average clavicle width.
@acecutler6929
14 сағат бұрын
Not yet, but he has a lot of potential.
@MichaelHernandez-mv7on
17 сағат бұрын
He looked super thick next Hadi and Derek, his legs were thick and full
@philliplabuschagne5508
19 сағат бұрын
Martin beat Derek hands down. Gorilla vs Godlike physique. Phil Heath class coming through. Pitty Martin already messed up his abs. Price guys pay these days. They should go study Tom Plats he never blew out his abs why because he always kept his core tight pulled in and tight. Training abs and building a strong core before chasing size. But I digress. Martin in all honesty stole the show.
@jstenuf
19 сағат бұрын
I would love to see comparison between Martin and Andrew. Andrew has much better torso -- wider, bubbly, separated. Martin really lacks lats.
@ethangilworth7891
13 сағат бұрын
Andrew’s lower lats are MIA, and Andrew’s torso is only better from the front.
@tootoomcgoo9674
13 сағат бұрын
I frankly think Martin's lack of lat width just kills him in this comparison and ultimately makes him the loser. That said, I put about 1/3rd value on lower body, 2/3rds on upper body, in most shots. I think judges do the same, whether by instinct or some secret rubric. The lack of lats really detracts from Martin's front double, front lat spread, rear lat spread, and even the rear double. He largely makes up for it in the rear double, but not enough to beat Derek in that shot. Also, frankly, his arms and shoulders are really bad. They look awful in the rear double, front double, etc. Just awful. At least Derek's arms look fuller in the front double, and Derek is showing much more detail in the delts in the rear double. I really dislike Derek's physique, and I really like Martin's, but he's not quite there yet. I think he was lucky to get 5th.
@lucasdanconia
11 сағат бұрын
He got 4th, Jacked is 5th
@jjl499
5 сағат бұрын
If Martin keeps his head on straight he is in potential next 2nd place or even first if Samson slips up and he’s on he will beat them all
@BrianB-dz5db
19 сағат бұрын
IMO, Derek was clearly better overall. He will need to improve his quads, though, to stay near the top.
@d34dthumbalinax35
19 сағат бұрын
Peakier biceps, alittle more lats and slightly bigger back. Could 100% win and be almost unbeatable
@TheSolarium18
4 сағат бұрын
Fitzgerald needs better and deeper seperations the veins are not fooling me and he has to learn immediately how to do a front latspread correctly
@sciencebehindthehype8136
Сағат бұрын
Yes he did for me
@a.f.s.3004
18 сағат бұрын
Martin has awesome delts.
@IMRANKHANTAHIRI-f1t
18 сағат бұрын
Martin is future 's Phil heath❤❤
@drmarkp1
15 сағат бұрын
.. Martin has more room for improvement .. If he improves half as much by next year as he did this year; he can beat Derek
@usmantariq6494
11 сағат бұрын
The more it's discussed the more it's apparent Derek didn't win 23 either 😕
@modestoquinto1911
11 сағат бұрын
Placings are okay for me, even the new Mr O..
@nnyetri
14 сағат бұрын
Now everything is beating Derek 😂, guys cmon…
@ivanmzrnic6475
19 сағат бұрын
Martin needs a little bit more to beat derek. But he can get there damn.
@nickvtguitar546
17 сағат бұрын
If Martin wins one day we can start ripping him apart and saying he doesn’t deserve it 😂 Like shallow arms, and okay but not perfect- not as strong as Derek IMO
@p.b.678
20 сағат бұрын
💪
@Supersetman
20 сағат бұрын
yezzir
@filippocalvenzi336
18 сағат бұрын
andrew beat them both by far. robbed. they even played his track wrong
@konev13thebeast
10 сағат бұрын
Andrew was watery again, especially from the back
@eneateneggi5274
16 сағат бұрын
Derek wins back poses and most watery 😂😂😂😂😂😂
@AntonioLiberato08
13 сағат бұрын
No doubt he did - overall better flow condition and overall look. Derek was great but not as great as Martian
@venom999333
16 сағат бұрын
I'm betting Derek is getting penalized for whatever he's injecting into his lats. Ramy was getting penalized over the same thing in his quads. Those bumps on his lats were terrible last year. Derek's side legs look fine but his front quads are weak af!!
@LordOrderChaos
19 сағат бұрын
Derek's last are massive. Like his whole back. No biceps peak unfortunately.
@younggotti8195
16 сағат бұрын
Martin may have been better than Samson, Samson should not have placed 1st or 2nd
@bjf5027
18 сағат бұрын
Derek blew his physique out this year.
@darndoor3065
17 сағат бұрын
How so? He looked much better than last year
@bjf5027
14 сағат бұрын
@@darndoor3065 bigger yes, but not better. He looked boated and his midsection was noticeably wider which drastically changed his proportions ironically making him look smaller
@darndoor3065
13 сағат бұрын
@@bjf5027 I have to disagree. I think he looked more defined almost everywhere and his FLS and A&T were seriously transformed, even if they are still weaker shots for him.
@bjf5027
12 сағат бұрын
@@darndoor3065 yea true. I just think his overall look was better last year. I don't know, it's hard to put my finger on the exact issue but his proportions just look off to me. Hadi has slightly better proportions but Samson has damn near flawless proportions
@kelitao9796
13 сағат бұрын
5:00 derek looks so bad here, damn
@vincentlatour2445
9 сағат бұрын
Im not sold on Martin's physique, overhyped IMO
@Scottness1001
17 сағат бұрын
Martin for me. Derek is very imbalanced. Upper way too big for underdeveloped legs. Extra size did him no favours and see him dropping further in 2025
@troycote4503
18 сағат бұрын
Martin abs n thighs convincingly???
@sherman4970
18 сағат бұрын
Was Derek really a 3rd placed competitor though??? Looked off and soft to me ???
@KhemBMD
9 сағат бұрын
Far be it from me but Tyler is on crack if he says Martin wins mm vs Nick
@Rupitsch285
19 сағат бұрын
Fitzwater has better Porportions!
@ricosmith4511
18 сағат бұрын
I love the message that Mr.Olmpia is sending don't be thinking you have it sewed up off conditioning alone knowing that's the easiest to do if u just lay around and dry out Hadi was hoping that was the new standards so that way the bigger guys wouldn't swole up he was hoping bigger guys shrink while they lose muscle in hopes Judges was all into glutes only striations while trying to low key forget about size all the Nick Strength of Power Hadi condition fans can sit down he rode conditioning of Hadi like a new Presidential company race so embracing conditioning alone is not allying what judges look at in the end they sending the message stop playing what judges is looking at cause u have no idea and shouldn't be playing to judges but instead doing your fn best as a body builder Hadi been playing too long and fans too much in wanting Judges to favor sit out and dry out lol nope put in the work get them muscles built up is always the first priority it was the hopes of the little man 212 can influence they knew it would make the taller bb scale down in size so their conditioning can be what gains them points wrong as ever i'm happy for the new and right standards is placed the message is if u 212 and can't get your size up don't think by being the driest will win it knowing damn well tall guys be putting in work to let let thin skinned conditioned guys play the diet game sadly Andrew Jacked learned the hard way trying to come in and beat conditioning monsters like Hadi cost him should have posed down at the press conference instead of backing down being bold and confident matters too hopefully they all learned to stop being divas bing brass and bold is what they want not depending on thin dry skin and glutes lol
@lucasdanconia
11 сағат бұрын
Not a single punctuation mark
@streetspirit956
18 сағат бұрын
No he didnt. He was nowhere near Derek.
@stewiegriffin5900
14 сағат бұрын
yes he did destroyed!
@mywarlock3557
15 сағат бұрын
Hadi deserved last year...
@surferxblood
19 сағат бұрын
This is the era where anyone can be Mr. Olympia. And I mean anyone. Who ever The Mr. Olympia Organization believes meaning makes $$$$ will be Mr. Olympia. It’s a Rigged Beauty Pageant!!!
@somekindaguy100
18 сағат бұрын
Yeah not sure how you come to that conclusion but whatever
@NikosNikos-dr7wv
20 сағат бұрын
Martin was better than Derek, Hadi and Sam
@Supersetman
20 сағат бұрын
Damn
@luizansounds
19 сағат бұрын
Take boling hot like the saunas the golden era used
@lars4953
19 сағат бұрын
Every time you ask for a sub I make my like to a dislike. It's automatic...
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