My biggest issue with the story is that it’s just super safe. No moment hits as hard as the ending of the first 2 games.
@baki484
9 ай бұрын
It's largely a Frankenstein consisting of ideas from shows and games. And some of the stuff was executed worse in some areas.
@ccelite3782
9 ай бұрын
"You knew?" Is still the hardest line in this universe.
@kagomodise4008
9 ай бұрын
I agree. Insomniac promised a darker game, which okay, some moments were darker but hardly more than the death of May or Otto's meltdowns. Or even Miles telling Peter how dispensable the lives of Harlem were to Roxxon. It was dark but eh sort of not really.
@rdclips3647
9 ай бұрын
Yeah miles was really boring this game and Peter was nerfed hard
@Cosmicmorales
9 ай бұрын
@@rdclips3647they turned my boy into a geek… 😭
@talhaiqbal6798
9 ай бұрын
I agree with you so much that Harry’s death would make Norman’s transformation more sensible. It honestly seemed too extreme a reaction given his prior history with Peter/Spiderman.
@spider-man5544
9 ай бұрын
Harry being on a vegetative state by the end of the game which is even worse. its like putting someone to death but not really, and norman's response is literally someone a father who risks all of his resources, ruins all their relationships to save his son would react.
@Shahriyararin63
9 ай бұрын
Definitely can't wait for Green Goblin in the future
@KingdomKeyJT
9 ай бұрын
I don't understand how you think Norman's reaction was too "extreme". Things were looking hopeful that Harry would be okay and it all goes down the drain again. Obviously Norman would be fucking furious about this. 💀
@SpotifyMartinez
9 ай бұрын
They can use venom now in this game venom is harry and a symbiote not just the symbiote
@baxterstockman2191
9 ай бұрын
I rather had Eddie Brock
@TheSpiderMeisterFT
9 ай бұрын
"It has higher highs, but lower lows than the first game" Perfectly sums it up
@Coolgamer54321
9 ай бұрын
But nothing is higher in this game, the main villains are nowhere near as impactful Doc Ock, the story is worse, the characterization and dialogue is worse, like wtf 😂
@TheSpiderMeisterFT
9 ай бұрын
@@Coolgamer54321 You didn't list everything... Gameplay is better, combat is better, speed it better, side design is better. Story is worse, main design is worse, time taken is worse, and development is worse. Cry.
@Andrew-pv8oz
9 ай бұрын
@@TheSpiderMeisterFTcombat was way more boring and easy. Stealth levels were lame. First Spider-Man was way better
@TheSpiderMeisterFT
9 ай бұрын
@@Andrew-pv8oz How was combat more boring, exactly? They did nothing but add complexity to the old combat. Never said the first game wasn't better
@octoxicbeballin
9 ай бұрын
@@TheSpiderMeisterFTthe combat is quite literally just button mashing now, nothing else. before switching through gadgets was fun, with the wheel and all, now you just mash two buttons and it happens. things like that, make it a little more monotonous
@TheGhostOfTK
9 ай бұрын
My only issue is how rushed the ending felt, i think the beginning all the way to kravens death were perfect, but then everything just happened too damn fast, it was literally symbiotes run around, they make the blasts, find miles mom, peter fights mj, get anti venom, city falls apart, then final fight, it just happened too fast
@hotcoldman77
9 ай бұрын
Spiderman 3 all over again. Venom shouldn't have been in this game. For the ending, Peter should have gotten rid of the symbiote as it takes over EDDIE BROCK!!! Spidey 3 villain is then Venom
@macaronipotato
9 ай бұрын
@@hotcoldman77they should have made it after we defeated Harry as Venom… Peter, Miles, and MJ assumed they defeated all the Symbiotes and their gone. the secret ending plays and shows the small remaining of the symbiote in the Life Foundation facility. Eddie Brock inspects the symbiote out of curiosity, but accidentally bonds with the symbiote, making him the next Venom.
@Gzilla313
8 ай бұрын
Wasn’t the first one like that too? There’s the prison break, Sinister Six forms, Peter fights two 2-on-1’s, then Mr Negative, Doc Ock, and game’s done.
@zjackshot
8 ай бұрын
@sheriffyusuf3732 i find it strange that peter parker is now essentially anti venom lol
@zjackshot
8 ай бұрын
@macaronipotato don't really like this take, eddie and venom (not including movie) always had this sort of destiny/religous spin to them with them both wanting/feeling the same thing, they should've introduced eddie in this game also (like miles) and then you could have had spiderman 3 eventually set up eddie as anti venom.
@Divergent-ym3py
9 ай бұрын
My biggest issue was Kraven and the Symbiote felt like two different plot lines that weren’t weaved together. Would’ve been better for miles to keep hunting the hunter while Peter got more addicted to venom. Add more strain to Him and Harry’s connection. Cause waiting for the venom plot had miles fucking around until the amazing Li arc.
@_lowvox
9 ай бұрын
Ur on the spot man,He was literally messing around too💀 I was disappointed seeing him teach me how to swing and web wings like 2 extra times durin the story😭
@eliminator1472
4 ай бұрын
Kraven and the symbiote plot lines were weaved together as best as they could be. It was great actually. Venom wouldn’t have existed without Kraven
@chaosv1123
4 ай бұрын
The Li arc whilst good, made no sense. His stand alone game suggested that he had to overcome the grief of losing his father to Martin Li and his goons judging from how incessant he was on stopping phin. Making him obsess over revenge makes him not learn the lessons he learnt in the other game which was to just let go and embrace the future and the fact that some people may change and some may not, its just his sense of responsibility to stop evil and violence that matters above all else.
@nahumbruintjies-en2gd
9 ай бұрын
I just wish the story was longer, where we got more time with Peter with the black suit and see him grow more attached to it and have more time with venom because I felt like he and kraven didn't have enough screen time. Like we could have seen kraven hunt all the dead super villains or we could've see Spiderman with the black suit confront all the dead super villains but this would be before kraven killed them, like what if we see Peter with the black suit almost beat (ex. Scorpion to death due to the black suit influencing him, Peter chasing shocker down and he says that line he said in the animated series) moments like this would really show just how different Peter is with the black suit. Also I also expected black suit Peter to have more feats to show what his strength is like with the black suit, plus I would have loved to see Peter flex his muscles with the anti venom suit because it's stated that he has the power of the symbiote without the draw backs(the voices, and normal symbiote weaknesses) but Im confident that Pete will have more feats in his base and his anti venom symbiote
@baxterstockman2191
9 ай бұрын
There was a lot of filler missions and missed opportunities in this game
@The-Legend-of-P
9 ай бұрын
@@baxterstockman2191not even just filer missions. The game just wasn’t paced well enough. The filler missions are fine cause those are to let the story breathe like in the first couple games. But in this one, they just went so fast every single mission
@tkm1875
9 ай бұрын
LONGER?! The game was long! This is standard action-adventure game length. It's not Final Fantasy, lol. If you binge played this game then the problem is YOU, not the game. It took me a month to complete and get the platinum because I have a life, lol. I played a little everyday or every other day.
@tkm1875
9 ай бұрын
@@The-Legend-of-PLITERALLY nothing wrong the pacing. Y'all want too much of what you don't need.
@shotzcapalot
9 ай бұрын
@@tkm1875as a symbiote spider-man story it was definitely short
@christiannoriega428
9 ай бұрын
I think one of my biggest issues with the game was the build-up for Peter turning evil from the black suit. He didn’t have a lot of conflicts with his loved ones before the suit (at least not very prominent ones) and didn't have the relationship problems he should have had. He kind of just turned evil, and everyone caught on instantly. It was pretty cool how they portrayed him close to the end of him with the symbiote, but it felt like he only turned because of the suit and less so from issues he already had that the suit would have amplified. In hindsight, it wasn't bad, but that part of the story was just so good in other iterations of this arc that it stands out and makes it feel like something was missing.
@hypebeastmemer272
9 ай бұрын
agreed the symbiote kinda lessened the actions of peter and harry to the point that they are excused since the symbiote did it or heavily influenced them, Venom in my eyes has always been like a substance that even if taken doesn't excuse the characters actions since they are in control. Also Venom didnt really feel much like a character and taking over the world kinda lowers the stakes since you obviously know it wont happen mainly cuz we know theres going to be another game
@Chackz0
8 ай бұрын
I think it would have been better if Miles got the symbiote since he was already having that conflict with Martin Li being freed and also having the choice to save him earlier, it would have been so much more compelling with Miles’ story
@christiannoriega428
8 ай бұрын
@Chackz0 That would be interesting. They could have also had him get a symbiote at the same time. They had the bones to do it right with Peter, though. He had some reasons to have issues with his friends, but they didn't show it in the story and didn't delve into it from the beginning.
@heavydonkeykong5190
8 ай бұрын
In fairness, an overarching theme of the game is the burden of Spiderman finally getting the better of Peter so I do think the symbiote compliments that well.
@mohammedahmmed9827
8 ай бұрын
@@Chackz0Miles can’t get the symbiote since he, unlike Peter, has bio-electric powers. Electricity has heat, which is one of the greatest weaknesses of a Klyntar. Plus, it would sound ridiculously comic-inaccurate if Venom interacted with Miles, as the latter never had any symbiote in the comics (except for Carnage). Venom’s usually affiliated with Peter in most medias, so it was already a better plan to keep the alien in Peter, to also kinda make him OP after the nerfing he got.
@Gallowaves
9 ай бұрын
I wish they had taken inspiration from Arkham knight with how each villain would get their own dedicated side missions that would end with a consequence that would impact that main story. Imagine getting to team up with a member of Spider-Man’s rouges gallery and survive whatever traps Kraven set for them like the black cat mission but for everyone. They could’ve even added choices that resulted in certain characters living or dying instead of killing them off screen.
@alexistecca408
8 ай бұрын
I agree but one flaw about Arkham Knight that they had was they made use the Batman Batmobile too much like 60% of the game you had to use the Batmobile
@mosesking2923
7 ай бұрын
@@alexistecca408 I didn't have an issue with the Batmobile in that game. It was perfectly balanced between vehicle combat and racing missions and puzzles.
@flyinglions2223
6 ай бұрын
Not only that but I wish they took inspiration from Arkham Knight’s dual combat, where you can switch between characters on the fly. Sure you get a couple team takedown animations between Peter and Miles but that’s it, it’s been done better and they could have done more. The whole two Spider-men thing was a missed opportunity in my opinion, you can’t see either Spider-Man randomly swinging in the open world, you can’t see Peter during combat encounters as Miles, and they only have two post combat animations where they either do an awkward handshake or the Spider-Man pointing meme which is old atp
@BatmanfrmDaX
5 ай бұрын
@@mosesking2923perfectly balanced my as it was so overused bro
@kuro5041
3 ай бұрын
@@BatmanfrmDaX the Batmobile was 8% of the entire game. Stop it
@user-lf4bg2bh1p
9 ай бұрын
i like sm2, especially the open world but just feel like the first was better overall for the time it came out
@GameOverloadMO
9 ай бұрын
The first game also came out before there was a standard precedent. If the games were released in the reverse order I can guarantee that there would be less people complaining about certain elements of SM2
@youtubeperson3111
9 ай бұрын
@@GameOverloadMOI agree, i dont know if it was just me, but i judged the first game way less harshly, i was glad about stuff like the suits being free, but when it comes to the second, i kinda ignore a-lot of what made me happy in the first game that transferred over to the second game.
@Shahriyararin63
9 ай бұрын
Both are good but Spider Man 2 is better
@baxterstockman2191
9 ай бұрын
I'm glad I got this game free. I Would never have paid full price for this Spider-man 2018 sure. This nah
@baxterstockman2191
9 ай бұрын
@@GameOverloadMO nah there's a lot of cringey, prentious and woke shit in this game
@nunogabriel646
9 ай бұрын
Things i think were lacking or were done poorly in sm2: - peters personality changes to fast, even he himself said to harry he changed a lot the last few days. He said all of that happened in a few days. And during the story if you play the missions and consider everycutscene to be day after day peter is with the symbiote like 4 days and it completely changed him. - Harry had the symbiote for 2 years. Only after 2 years it bonded to him, it didnt go crazy with harry, it went crazy really fast with peter and came back to harry and the crazyness was just increased a lot. They didnt explain how or why any of the things that took place happened like that. - Making Venom someone close to peter doesnt work. This game just proves that. Venom is not supposed to be a generic villain that wants to take over the world like in this game. Venom is known for his hate of spider-man, Venom even saves people, unless they are related to peter at all, or are evil. So it doesnt make sense to make someone that is so close to peter like harry, hate him a lot like venom does. They tried to do so and very poorly. Harry gets jealous cause his dad said he liked peter and its worried sick about his own son working hours and hours not stopping, harry also gets mad at peter for not wanting him to get a crazy goo on him and somehow they want us to believe thats enough for someone to turn into a villain. - I mean this kind of lazy writing is exactly what tasm2 and Ultimate spider-man cartoon did with harry. Peter didnt want to do something stupid or was worried about his friend so he does something with no logic or sense and turns into a villain - Also venom is supposed to call himself that cause he is host+symbiote and their hate for spider-man is what gave them their own name: "Venom", its what they feel. And by the end of the game harry is just crying for peter to get him out of the symbiote - Peter gets downgraded so miles looks good and i hate it. I mean it would be ok to make miles stand out but make peter look bad even with 8y experience is just lazy. He gets hit by a lightning twice against sandman, he would have been buried against him if it wasnt for miles (and peter already fought sandman a lot of times). Wraith saves peter from being burned alive. Miles saves peter from the hunters. Peter GETS ONE SHOTTED by kraven, i mean wtf. Peter gets knocked out by some random symbiotes and miles and Li need to save him. Even with anti-venom he was still trashed by venom. The cutscenes for the venom fight make peter look overwhelmed and defeated, while miles looks like he has his hands full but is crafty. Miles has to save peter from the symbiote too something peter always was able to do by himself, because thats the essence of his character, his soul cant be corrupted because when he was other people paid for it, his principles are his base. - Norman also got mad for no reason, he literally asked peter to save his son than he does, he is alive and all but its enough to make him the goblin. Nitpick: Kraven killed to much villains unecessarily. We already saw how strong he was by going after lizard, killing scorpion and one shotting peter
@Al-Xelrio
9 ай бұрын
So true
@emersonvolkova6715
9 ай бұрын
Peter's personality changed because symbiote found him to be an ideal host and was able to develop a more integrated symbiotic bond with his DNA. This was evident when the symbiote adapted to peters chest insignia. That said, Venom isn't generic. He's come a long way from being goo and hates Spidey for rejecting him as his host. That's not going to stop him from taking over the world, but at the center of the main story, his symbiote is the healing property that both Peter and Harry need to survive. I find all these elements complex and well-layered. Your last points about Peter being weak only show that he's human and still susceptible to living with his share of demons. I think he had a great arc, and it's nice to see him step deeper into companionship while he entrusts the weight of his responsibility on his apprentice, who's ready for the mantle. Oh, and I don't think Norman will be the goblin. I think he's going to try to save his son and turn him first. Maybe even pass on this voices to him too. He DOES have Venom neutralized inside of him. There's plenty to play with here.
@Gzilla313
8 ай бұрын
Venom’s story seemed pretty clear to me. Symbiotes naturally want to spread and take over the world they’re on to make the universe their hive mind. Harry was a weak human, so while Venom could keep him alive, he couldn’t really serve Venom’s desires. When Venom met Peter it sensed his strength and wanted to leave Harry for a better host so it could start to spread. Venom tried to consume Peter, but Peter rejected it. When Venom got back to Harry he was an easy host to fully consume and Venom had gained enough strength by feeding off Peter that it could start multiplying, and the people who joined its hive increased Venom’s strength.
@nunogabriel646
8 ай бұрын
Venom is not evil, v enom doesnt want to take over the world, venom wants to protect people, specially from spider-man. Venom doesnt even like symbiote take overs and helps to stop them cause thats not him. If you change too much about a character it just stops being the same character. Like imagine someone giving you a spider-man game but the main spider-man is not peter parker, he doesnt care about others but has basically the same powers. The name is the same but the character is not.@@Gzilla313
@keileejaquez1281
8 ай бұрын
The point of kraven killing villains wasn’t to showcase how strong he was , it was to find someone to kill him and be “worthy “ of his death. He was going to die of old age and didn’t want to .
@martinkvarven6930
9 ай бұрын
7:20 i could swear you said "we got mj dealing with heroin issues"
@rileymartin4935
6 ай бұрын
lol I heard the same
@russellchan845
9 ай бұрын
I also agree with the amount of time allotted for the story. I rushed through the game at launch because of school but I feel like the first game had a lot of slower build up or everything had the time it deserved. Though I feel it must be said that the first game had the benefit of novelty and it didn't have the pressure of improving upon a previously established game. Also with the potential for DLC being really high I expect there to be some story elements to address loose threads or set up thing for the third game which makes it hard to judge the game as it is.
@Shahriyararin63
9 ай бұрын
The story is amazing though
@russellchan845
9 ай бұрын
@@Shahriyararin63 it is amazing I have to many problems with insomniacs story choices I just wished that they had more time to build up to the high/low points. Like peter struggling to get a job and the strain it has on him to keep mays house. In the previous game we had to find peter stuff that was thrown away after he got evicted it might not move the plot but little things like that matter to build tension.
@Shahriyararin63
9 ай бұрын
@@russellchan845to be fair, that was my nitpick too which is like what you mentioned, Peter's money problem
@The-Legend-of-P
9 ай бұрын
@@russellchan845also weird how none of those struggles led to Peter being mad or upset which coulda led better into the black suit 👀
@The-No-one
7 ай бұрын
The first game had a slower story mainly because of Miles and MJ missions having more quantity in the first game as well as the game using the web swinging since the wen swinging didn't send you flying like Spider-Man 2 does.
@lukeamparo6586
9 ай бұрын
Minor spoiler: the worst thing Peter did with the Black Suit was “not answering phone calls”😂 Overall the Symbiote storyline was not well paced nor structured. Certain character dynamics are either undercooked or nonexistent. Which is a shame given the final boss’ commentary.
@shaunavant532
5 ай бұрын
Peter was going to kill mj and kraven, if you lose the chase then you see an animation of peter basically consuming here like in ultimate spiderman
@bearpoop720
4 ай бұрын
@@shaunavant532you have to actually try to to lose the chase lmao. You can stand in 1 place and nothing happens because the devs were so lazy. Plus that wasn't Peter, it was the symbiofe, he was snoring while that was happening. Awful game
@reubendaniel5691
3 ай бұрын
@@shaunavant532no way that’s so brutal 😭
@shaunavant532
3 ай бұрын
@@reubendaniel5691 ye it's sad people have such a low attention span they don't see stuff like that
@reubendaniel5691
3 ай бұрын
@@shaunavant532 well I just never thought to purposefully die during that part and now I’m half thankful I didn’t see that and half curious 💀
@ChromaWRLD999
9 ай бұрын
I personally believe this game is amazing. I only obtained a PS5 recently as an early Christmas gift and it was the spider man 2 package, so I started playing right away, and it was super fun. The swinging mechanics are much better than the first game, and the combat/skills are SO MUCH EASIER TO ACCESS AND USE. Also, the sound of Peter or Miles breaking open Flint Marko’s memories is the loudest sound in the entire fucking world
@baxterstockman2191
9 ай бұрын
I would never have paid for this game, glad I got it free
@Celestialnighthawk
9 ай бұрын
@@baxterstockman2191wym the game is great it’s just not a masterpiece like people are saying it’s definitely worth the money
@shadowstyleb
9 ай бұрын
@@Celestialnighthawk for me it's a masterpiece yeah it's got its issues but the game was absolutely amazing for me. Now this is just me. I get it everyone has different criteria but for me an absolute masterpiece.
@Celestialnighthawk
9 ай бұрын
@@shadowstyleb if you’re admitting it has issues you’re admitting it’s not a masterpiece but I agree it’s a very good game
@mikeo9074
9 ай бұрын
But the skills suck compared to the first game…. You can’t even use webs in combat as much as in the last installment
@nick_4972
4 ай бұрын
The script for this game feels like a first draft.
@PositivelyNegativeOfficial
4 ай бұрын
I’m convinced the only reason Harry lived at the end is because they didn’t want the ending to be “the same” as the first game.
@sethrudy6617
7 ай бұрын
I love how you said “ im something of a Spider-Man fan myself” while Norman said his whole of “I’m something of a scientist myself” way to go
@HollowFlashZero182
9 ай бұрын
Excellent review. My biggest gripes was the story wasn’t long enough and felt rushed at times. Especially act 2 & 3 but the game play was phenomenal. The story was overall solid and a lack in new game plus at the onset was unacceptable
@Gigachadbateman104
9 ай бұрын
Same felt like the first game was longer and paced better but that might have been because of dlc and stuff
@akkibajaj705
8 ай бұрын
It’s common for games to release without New game plus now. It’s not nothing new
@myweirdsecondchannelwithap9070
8 ай бұрын
@@Gigachadbateman104personally I think pacing was one of the biggest flaws of the first game, even though it wasn't that big of an issue. They handled it a bit better in this game, but Miles was their best story and pacing wise not counting first game dlc (second and third part of sm1 dlc is peak)
@jefftakesdscakes30
4 ай бұрын
@@myweirdsecondchannelwithap9070 no it flashes by
@jefftakesdscakes30
4 ай бұрын
Stealth sucks and so do bosses story ass
@artLopez24
9 ай бұрын
Should’ve had way more fighting and swinging animations…it was good but it was definitely safe (I would’ve preferred more animations then a bigger city or web wings) also the story could’ve been a little longer because Peter with that black suit felt undercooked wish there was more of bully Peter Parker
@marcusclark1339
8 ай бұрын
say it bluntly ITS BAD - every part is horrid - story is a mess of going nowhere with terrible pacing (spider-man 3 game has better pacing than this) - weakest symbiote storyline TO DATE social politics - game worked on by ESG company Sweet Baby Inc - constant emasculation of Peter from MJ and Miles to devalue him, hence his rogue gallery axed in this game to push him out - Miles in any way beating symbiote peter is laughable - MJ tanking a hit from Venom - scene of grown man being beat on and sniveling to a girl half his size and weight - mook enemies are inclusive to women fighters too for no reason than to be beat up by peter, how is that not sexist - Peter over praising Miles for reforming Lee when he did nothing and saying he never could just to over praise him more - Miles all his side missions to some identity or social cue from gay relationship to deaf girl playable segment - Black Cat only here to say she's gay and leave - the puerto rican Flag debacle getting it wrong AGAIN (they got it wrong in EVERY game so far) - Spanish Language butchered for "inclusive speech" - Scream Fight is just Peter acting like a b*tch while being chewed out by MJ and losing the fight in the end - MJ segments laughably over powered to imply she's capable when all it does is highlight how weak Pete and Miles are the fact there's that many is astonishing.
@omaranthony3703
5 ай бұрын
@@marcusclark1339isnt miles really good at tech and isn’t venom really bad with noise sure he could find a way plus he has zappy powers
@NileSWPhotography
9 ай бұрын
I’m going to be the one to say it: I feel like maybe they shouldn’t have had two Spider-Man in one game. I preferred one it was one because they tried to cram too much in. Abilities wise, story wise, everything wise. It was a great game but I think I really prefer one Spider-Man to focus on. Let’s be honest, Miles didn’t even get much story in this game apart from his grievances with Martin Li. I loved that story and I wanted more of it but it’s all fixed now. I want to focus on one character
@Italian_Rican
4 ай бұрын
Something I don’t see a lot of people mention are the insane amount of bugs and glitches.
@bootyjaww
2 ай бұрын
I noticed a few in my first play through, but my new game + run so far has been hella glitchy … There’s even a glitch in this video at 5:13
@Yayo_official
Ай бұрын
Right? It worked perfect on day 1 but after some updates, it feels like a unplayable mess. Especially in NG+
@Dejastu
29 күн бұрын
They nerfed Spider-Man to make way for Miles Morales instead of making them both great. Horrible experience for a fan
@MasterGalacter
25 күн бұрын
Dude thank you. This really frustrated me. Also having another character call himself spiderman just dilutes what's great about the real Spiderman. I hate the idea of having miles in the story. But I'm just ranting.
@Dejastu
25 күн бұрын
@@MasterGalacter Miles being in a story as a side character is fine, but they tried so hard to cram him in and ultimately make him the main Spider-Man moving forward
@Black.Clover5
9 ай бұрын
Best words for this sequel is “too safe” and “pandering”
@Nestle245
2 ай бұрын
To who?
@LimitzX1
15 күн бұрын
Hopefully the DLC manages to bring Peter back as Spider-Man at the end
@MasJon-
9 ай бұрын
I personally think that Peter taking a "break" is because Miles is going to have his own game again after this one and it's basically just to explain why Peter is not in that game. I think the end credit with Miles shows that this is possible. And then in the fifth and "final chapter" (fifth game) we will have the link up again because Otto and Norman is causing havok and Peter of cause has to be there for that. By then it has been many years and four installments (if my theory is correct) so Insomniac can make the final game with all the knowledge of what worked and what didn't and go out with abseloute BANG. My theory of cause
@aliceinwonderland4395
9 ай бұрын
Nah, there's no second game for Miles. His character was already established between 3 games so it makes no sense why he'd deserve a second standalone. It's full speed ahead for Spider-Man 3 and Miles will definitely take over as the main Spider-Man, with Peter either dying halfway through the game or retiring permanently due to severe wounds inflicted on Peter's personal life by Green Goblin and Doctor Octopus since they will know his identity and target his whole life from the inside out. Either way, Peter is finished, and Miles will be the mentor to Silk.
@bll1
9 ай бұрын
@@aliceinwonderland4395which is fkn stupid. Already sidelining Peter in the final game
@domonickgant1074
9 ай бұрын
Sike@@aliceinwonderland4395
@zjackshot
8 ай бұрын
@@aliceinwonderland4395if this was the case then miles morales would be spiderman 2 and 2 would be 3.
@HaykInWonderland
6 ай бұрын
Smells like hopium
@Italian_Rican
4 ай бұрын
The biggest issue was what everyone was concerned about before release, it was too damn short ! No storyline ever had the chance to develop and breathe. The story especially when it came to the black suit and symbiote was wayyy to rushed.
@zachzahn2567
8 ай бұрын
Bro the amount of button mashing was insane, my thumbs haven’t felt that pain in years
@danielgonzalezjimenez5677
7 ай бұрын
How hard do you press buttons to be in pain after playing this? the only controllers that have given me mild discomfort were the joy cons because of their shape, playstation controllers have never given me any pain whatsoever
@JesusChristTheHoly
2 ай бұрын
@@danielgonzalezjimenez5677it’s an exaggeration bro chill
@danielgonzalezjimenez5677
2 ай бұрын
@@JesusChristTheHoly nah, I ain't chilling
@JesusChristTheHoly
2 ай бұрын
@@danielgonzalezjimenez5677 yes you are 😡🔫🔫🔫💪🏻💪🏻
@blobgobber7395
9 ай бұрын
I loved Spider-Man when I first played it in 2018. An incredibly gripping story with unmatched and thrilling gameplay that only Insomniac is able to deliver. Spider-Man: Miles Morales was also a welcome surprise that I finished 100% and the game became my first platinum! I bought Spider-Man 2 for the holidays and finished it in 4 days with my 2nd platinum in the bag. I do think the first game has the best story, since I did find the duality of having two Spider-Men in the same game to be a little bit underdeveloped. Miles's issues and storybeats is second fiddle to Peter and doesn't quite get the appropriate time to satisfyingly develop. As a result most of the events in the story directly connected to Miles doesn't feel especially important to the main event. Cause lets be real. This is still Peter Parker's story. It all leads back to and ends with him.
@seanmonaghan4693
Ай бұрын
One of the biggest issues with game is the story length. Not playtime, not script length, but the amount of time that passes in the story itself. The game takes place over the course of 8-9 days. It makes everything that takes place in the script feel impact-less and weightless and abrupt. There is no time given for Kraven to take over New York neighborhood-by-neighborhood, no time for Venom to slowly infect Manhattan, no time for Spider Man[s] to breathe with the city and help locals and show the relationship they have with the population. Everything HAPPENS! and then is SOLVED! kind of just...in an afternoon. When we emerge from underground and Venom's tendrils have already gripped the entirety of the New York skyline, we're an evening away from already solving everything. Hell, the symbiote storyline for Peter, a classically overt allegory for addiction and how it affects his relationships with the people he loves, takes place over a couple days before he discards the suit. That's not how addiction works, that's not how degradation of relationships work. It cheapens the severity of everything when it happens so quickly with no lasting effects. The game doesn't show us a period of time in Peter and Miles' lives, it shows us a brief moment, and the events they squeeze into that brief moment just shouldn't be confined to **just over a week.** They should be a month, 2 months even. There's a manic rush in the game to introduce a problem and then solve that problem that really hampers the story in an unflattering way.
@deanmoriarty6015
9 ай бұрын
my only real issue with the story is how shafted Kraven got, which you kinda touched on. the fight with venom was cool but it felt undeserving. Peter and Miles should’ve been there and played a bigger role in it. i also think Kraven should’ve had more screentime in general. he’s definitely strong enough to carry more story weight
@marcusclark1339
8 ай бұрын
say it bluntly ITS BAD - every part is horrid - story is a mess of going nowhere with terrible pacing (spider-man 3 game has better pacing than this) - weakest symbiote storyline TO DATE social politics - game worked on by ESG company Sweet Baby Inc - constant emasculation of Peter from MJ and Miles to devalue him, hence his rogue gallery axed in this game to push him out - Miles in any way beating symbiote peter is laughable - MJ tanking a hit from Venom - scene of grown man being beat on and sniveling to a girl half his size and weight - mook enemies are inclusive to women fighters too for no reason than to be beat up by peter, how is that not sexist - Peter over praising Miles for reforming Lee when he did nothing and saying he never could just to over praise him more - Miles all his side missions to some identity or social cue from gay relationship to deaf girl playable segment - Black Cat only here to say she's gay and leave - the puerto rican Flag debacle getting it wrong AGAIN (they got it wrong in EVERY game so far) - Spanish Language butchered for "inclusive speech" - Scream Fight is just Peter acting like a b*tch while being chewed out by MJ and losing the fight in the end - MJ segments laughably over powered to imply she's capable when all it does is highlight how weak Pete and Miles are the fact there's that many is astonishing entire thing is just bad
@deanmoriarty6015
8 ай бұрын
@@marcusclark1339 nice opinion, did a youtuber give it to you?
@juliansandler4569
8 ай бұрын
@@marcusclark1339I think you’re being too critical. The game has issues, but you’re nitpicking a lot and many of the things that you mentioned aren’t that significant in the grand scheme of things.
@eliminator1472
4 ай бұрын
@@marcusclark1339Who pissed in your milk little man?
@daytimesky
9 ай бұрын
This, and Zelda: Tears of the Kingdom (and also Dariusburst in the more obscure side) make me wonder if we're going to see a big trend over the next decade or so in which game companies make sequels that are basically "the previous game with more content and a new story." If they do that, it would be a huge treat for people who are jumping in late with the sequels and missed the originals, as they'll get to experience something absolutely massive. But for those who stuck with the series, they'll be retreading old ground for the most part as well as seeing some new stuff. That's how I felt with Tears of the Kingdom, even though I put over 200 hours into it and ended up appreciating its denser world and new enemy types, gameplay mechanics, and animal species. I'd still explored most of that world and done most of those things before.
@hartfantom
9 ай бұрын
Using tears of the kingdom is legitimately brain dead 💀💀💀. Even game developers were feeling embarrassed by how technically advanced the game was with its gameplay mechanics and there are VARIOUS differences from the previous game including mini games and interactions with the characters and world. Also, I find it pure brain dead to demand a sequel basically just not be a sequel. You could simply, idk, NOT PLAY THE SEQUEL. I don’t get this new philosophy of a sequel not being allowed to be a sequel. By all accounts, most people feel like they cannot go back to BOTW after TOTK due to how much better the game is overall. It’s a vast difference. It’s better for you to say you don’t like Zelda than to make this ridiculous statement basically punishing TOTK. TOTK and Spider-Man 2 are NOT in the same boat. I’ll leave it at this, anything TOTK took away from BOTW (mainly abilities) it replaced it with something miles and years better. Spider-Man 2 however, at times took away various things, and did not replace it with something better if rather replaced it at all. THATS the difference
@KingBookerT1987
9 ай бұрын
Companies have been doing this for over 10 years 😂
@daytimesky
9 ай бұрын
@@KingBookerT1987 With sports games yup. I should have clarified that I was referring to other genres starting to do this. But are there more examples? I'm interested in knowing of others.
@KingBookerT1987
9 ай бұрын
@@daytimesky every damn game from Ubisoft 😂
@zjackshot
8 ай бұрын
@@hartfantomyour take is the braindead on here, i love TOTK but you can't argue that even with the expanded mechanics its still a game about exploration and 80% of the game is exploring an almost identical map, the sky islands are sparse and the undergound is nostly empty.
@streetside2833
3 ай бұрын
They need to keep the main spiderman games centered to PETER and give Miles his own spin offs and gives whatever obscure Spiderman copy and paste characters their own spin offs or short gameplay sections like the MJ missions.
@Rippa211
6 ай бұрын
They need to add more crime in the open world. Random events were dumbed down for no reason.
@jefftakesdscakes30
4 ай бұрын
Bruh it u could 100% in the first game and there still be crimes
@timpage9424
9 ай бұрын
Definitely a safe sequel! Loved it, had a great time playing it and I hope there's at least 1 or 2 DLC stories they add on in the future. It's kind of hilarious people thought this deserved GOTY over Baldur's Gate 3 though.
@marentes133
8 ай бұрын
I’m sure there will be if you did the flame side missions
@akkibajaj705
8 ай бұрын
How come baldurs gate fanboys were trashing this game then too? You know they aren’t innocent either right. And not everyone has the same taste. Goty don’t matter at the end because ppl have different preferences
@slayrix279
8 ай бұрын
Baldurs gate didn’t deserve goty either tho, goty should be about innovation but obviously that entire idea is dead and now it’s all just a big popularity and numbers contest, goty means nothing other than your game was played by many and that’s already easy to attain information on and not something we should award a game for doing.
@marcusclark1339
8 ай бұрын
yup say it bluntly ITS BAD - every part is horrid - story is a mess of going nowhere with terrible pacing (spider-man 3 game has better pacing than this) - weakest symbiote storyline TO DATE social politics - game worked on by ESG company Sweet Baby Inc - constant emasculation of Peter from MJ and Miles to devalue him, hence his rogue gallery axed in this game to push him out - Miles in any way beating symbiote peter is laughable - MJ tanking a hit from Venom - scene of grown man being beat on and sniveling to a girl half his size and weight - mook enemies are inclusive to women fighters too for no reason than to be beat up by peter, how is that not sexist - Peter over praising Miles for reforming Lee when he did nothing and saying he never could just to over praise him more - Miles all his side missions to some identity or social cue from gay relationship to deaf girl playable segment - Black Cat only here to say she's gay and leave - the puerto rican Flag debacle getting it wrong AGAIN (they got it wrong in EVERY game so far) - Spanish Language butchered for "inclusive speech" - Scream Fight is just Peter acting like a b*tch while being chewed out by MJ and losing the fight in the end - MJ segments laughably over powered to imply she's capable when all it does is highlight how weak Pete and Miles are the fact there's that many is astonishing
@taljos8487
8 ай бұрын
No ones reading all that bud@@marcusclark1339
@Just_a_ghost713
9 ай бұрын
Spider man (2018) is a spiritual successor to spider man 2 (2004) but spider man 2 (2023) should have been a spiritual successor to web of shadows in terms of gameplay. But in order for that to work insomniac should've made Peter the main playable character instead of both, do you remember in web of shadows you can switch to your red suit for more agility attacks but if you want more damage you switch to the symbiote because that combat system should have been in Spider man 2 (2023). In terms of story insomniac should've relegated miles as a side character instead of co-lead because his story beats didn't need to happen in this game but in a miles Morales sequel instead of spider man 2 (2023). But for the story I always consider spider no more as a perfect end to the black suit spider man arc and that insomniac should've killed off Harry at the end thus spider man no more. But venom should've been kraven because not only Peter fail to get the symbiote back for Harry but failed save the sinister 6 because of kraven. And the things they cut because of bad management or strict deadlines really messed up the final product. Just my opinion and what if.
@Shahriyararin63
9 ай бұрын
Insomniac/Sony has a good working condition and it's good management. Sony would never rush anything unlike Activision. Insomniac never disappoints. Marvel's Spider Man 2 is better then the first 2 games as it got 91 on Metacritic making it the highest Metacritic score of any Marvel game. The final product is amazing for Marvel's Spider Man 2. Especially the story. It's amazing that's why it's nominated for best narrative. I mean I wouldn't mind if Harry got killed of or not but even though he didn't die, it's still emotional. I am guessing Insomniac has future plan with Harry. Definitely can't wait for Green Goblin in the future. So yeah I am glad that Peter is not retiring, he will return for the third game and fight Norman. But I do however agree with he nitpick you point out like switching quickly from the red suit to symbiote suit.
@doorsfan173
9 ай бұрын
12:00 Thank you for saying this. It reminds me of the 90s when Peter allowed his clone, Ben Reilly, take over as Spider-Man. Ben became NYC's Spidey while Pete & MJ were going to get to live their domestic lives and start a family. Obviously, that didn't last. Perhaps Insomniac wasn't intentionally taking cues from the Clone Saga, but I saw so many people freaking out about this plot point, when it is so obvious that Peter is not staying out of the fight if Ock breaks out and the Green Goblin joins his rogues (he wouldn't know who the Goblin is yet, but he usually leaves quite a mark on NYC, so that would be enough to make Peter feel that pull of responsibility to take action).
@zjackshot
8 ай бұрын
I really do feel like insomniac where taking cues from ben riley for miles, even down to them eventually calling each other brothers.
@VisForVindetta
9 ай бұрын
One of my problems was once again the black suit/Venom was done incorrectly. Peter and Harry ultimately aren’t responsible for their actions but tbh I think the suit works best in the story when the suit just gives the host a small push into their bad thoughts. Peter in this game just goes animalistic and Venom just starts using Harry as a battery halfway through the third act. Venom in my eyes is supposed to be a union of both the symbiote and its host with the common goal of killing Spider-Man. I was fine with the Web of Shadows plot but to have the whole “The Venom host is unwilling and just used as a battery” just isn’t the character and I kinda rolled my eyes at the animal roars from Peter. Would’ve rather had the suits influence be much more subtle and that would make Harry and Peter much more responsible for their actions in it
@davidwassell9592
9 ай бұрын
I 100% didn’t expect this to be your first video, looking forward to the next one!
@GameOverloadMO
9 ай бұрын
Appreciate it man!
@equatiks97
28 күн бұрын
i liked that the symbiotes were harder i feel like you cant complain "the fighting felt stale because anytime an enemy made me focus i took the lazy way"
@brigham9812
9 ай бұрын
peter got done dirty, period
@a.dackee9737
9 ай бұрын
I’ll say this though. Harry not dying was the right choice cause it helps elevates miles into becoming the only temporary Spider-Man. When Spider-Man wins, Peter Parker looses but miles made sure that Peter Parker was able to win as well. I feel like that scene helped cement peters decision to leave new York to miles for a while cause miles was able to reform his biggest enemy, he proved himself as a worthy hero and hell he saved Harry’s life. That is how I look at this
@jeeXB7
9 ай бұрын
I 100% agree with you, your totally right and as a matter of fact… the game message is " BALANCE " and keeping harry alive is good for Peter and defeat Venom and save the city is good for Spider-Man, Like I said it’s a balance and the ending secretly tell you that and many other part of the game also.
@sebastianmorin9780
9 ай бұрын
10:40 idk if someone’s already said this, but I feel like resuscitating Harry was not only to show how Miles can do more with his powers, and even more as SM, it also refrains from playing out a similar narrative to the first game, which I think people would have complained about. Peter even says he, “can’t go through this again,” and Miles tells him he won’t have to, kind of gave it away too. It also sets up the Green Goblin, and most likely his revival will probably play a part in stopping GG too.
@flybriur
8 ай бұрын
Totally agree.
@marcusclark1339
8 ай бұрын
say it bluntly ITS BAD - every part is horrid - story is a mess of going nowhere with terrible pacing (spider-man 3 game has better pacing than this) - weakest symbiote storyline TO DATE social politics - game worked on by ESG company Sweet Baby Inc - constant emasculation of Peter from MJ and Miles to devalue him, hence his rogue gallery axed in this game to push him out - Miles in any way beating symbiote peter is laughable - MJ tanking a hit from Venom - scene of grown man being beat on and sniveling to a girl half his size and weight - mook enemies are inclusive to women fighters too for no reason than to be beat up by peter, how is that not sexist - Peter over praising Miles for reforming Lee when he did nothing and saying he never could just to over praise him more - Miles all his side missions to some identity or social cue from gay relationship to deaf girl playable segment - Black Cat only here to say she's gay and leave - the puerto rican Flag debacle getting it wrong AGAIN (they got it wrong in EVERY game so far) - Spanish Language butchered for "inclusive speech" - Scream Fight is just Peter acting like a b*tch while being chewed out by MJ and losing the fight in the end - MJ segments laughably over powered to imply she's capable when all it does is highlight how weak Pete and Miles are the fact there's that many is astonishing
@sebastianmorin9780
8 ай бұрын
@@marcusclark1339 Ok... lol
@flybriur
8 ай бұрын
@@marcusclark1339 Wow, you really enjoyed the game I see! /s LOL.
@keshav9261
8 ай бұрын
@@sebastianmorin9780 I mean, the guy is not wrong😅
@charlespackowski6620
8 ай бұрын
Ngl after Kraven died the story got a lot worse. I don’t think venom would ever do the whole take over the world with symbiotes thing. Even if it’s to “heal the world” that’s the Lizard’s thing and he was in the game too. Also why didn’t Peter give Harry Antivenom at the end of the game? Like that ruins the story for me what an a hole
@Steel-101
9 ай бұрын
OK Spider-Man 2 being the very first video on your Video game channel is just perfect. Awesome review. I really think this game should be game of the year. It really captures the same feeling from the Toby Maguire and Andrew Garfield movies. Solid 9/10 for me. Also that Howard side quest really made me cry. The music was a nice touch(Plus I only do the quest with Peter). Only 3 games have ever made me cry like that: Mass Effect 3(Anderson‘s death), Red Dead Redemption 2, & Spiderman 2.
@GameOverloadMO
9 ай бұрын
Howard side quest was completely unexpected
@baxterstockman2191
9 ай бұрын
Game was mid an no where near GOTY material
@Steel-101
9 ай бұрын
@@baxterstockman2191 Highly disagree and many others would disagree with you as well. Fantastic intro, Great character interaction with Harry, Miles, MJ, Rio & of course Kraven. On top of that the suit story was pretty dark this time(no room for Toby Maguire dancing sadly), and the Web of Shadows finale. Great game and it makes you excited for more
@talas2566
9 ай бұрын
Ok I’m sorry but it wasn’t gonna win GOTY, no way balders gate 3 is just revolutionary, it had other triple AAA studios complaining that it shouldn’t be the new standard because it too amazing, and don’t you dare say “I’ve never even heard of balders gate 3” or “it looks like a mobile game” or “combat is lame” I sick of hearing those stupid remarks
@Steel-101
9 ай бұрын
@@talas2566 First of all obviously I’ve heard of BG3. Second I think the game is overrated. It’s not a 10/10 and it has it’s own set of issues. I’m pretty sure a LOT of people played the first two acts and didn’t finish it. I’m not saying it’s 100% bad but it’s not that good. Also I’m gonna say it, the turn-base combat is boring. On top of that I don’t like the raunchy humor in BG3.
@animatheo5779
9 ай бұрын
Great video, my biggest issue with the game was that it did too much, I'd love to simply not have lizard in game or the sandman if we had gotten more harry moments so we can care about him, also they could've shown the suffering he had, I felt I didn't care for him in the ending yk, wait, this is your first video? I could swear you're a big gaming channel or something
@mtjtv247
9 ай бұрын
Wish we could permanently use the spider legs and switch what symbiote we want to use
@TheBookRant
4 ай бұрын
You can switch back to spider legs. Just got in the skill menu and click them
@OneNiceKittyRightThere
13 күн бұрын
My biggest thing with this game is the dialog. People in the real world dont talk to each other the way people in Marvels Spider-Man talk to lol.
@smokeythesnail7467
8 ай бұрын
probably the most accurate SM2 review i’ve seen on youtube cheers
@nikomint4894
16 күн бұрын
I can swing in this game for hours without doing any missions😂 love it
@violet6954
8 ай бұрын
Awesome to hear you bring up the Howard side mission, definitely stuck out to me as well. Great review!
@infamousplayer8772
4 ай бұрын
Something interesting to think about: technically Peter did lose for Spider-Man to win, he DID have to kill Harry at the end of the day, and if it was just him there, that's how it would've stayed, just like in the first and Miles Morales' games with May and Phin. Except this time they were both there, both Peter and Miles, and together they managed to overcome that tragedy that always seems to be guaranteed at the end of their story, which is pretty in line with the game's theme of being greater, together. They don't have to be condemned to the same ending if they're doing it differently.
@whitewalker9862
9 ай бұрын
I enjoyed Spider-Man 2, but honestly I liked Spider-Man 1 much more. At the first game the story was much more focused because there's only Peter as the main character. Then we had another game that focused on Miles. At Spider-Man 2 going back and forth between two heroes shifts games story several times and because of that story loses focus and dramatic effects aren't as strong as the first game. I know that many people enjoyed to change between Peter and Miles while playing. But I still prefer Spider-Man 1's approach, a story solely focused on Peter and later another story solely focused on Miles.
@Shahriyararin63
9 ай бұрын
I mean to be fair, Spider Man 2 may have been better game the first 2 but the story for 2018 is better by a little bit so I agree. But Marvel's Spider Man 2 story is amazing and it didn't lose focus. It's perfectly balanced. That's why it's nominated for best narrative. I am not saying you're wrong but just adding
@jamesmallard8815
9 ай бұрын
@@Shahriyararin63lol being game.awards don't mean shit
@Shahriyararin63
9 ай бұрын
@@jamesmallard8815 yes it does and it's a huge achievement.
@The-Legend-of-P
9 ай бұрын
@@Shahriyararin63it didn’t lose focus yeah but only cause it didn’t really do much. Peter got the symbiote, beat lizard, then lost it to miles, then venom and that’s it. Since the sinister 6 died Peter didn’t really fight anyone or spend much time w/ the suit. They coulda made the flame missions licked behind the main story, so when Peter gets the black suit, another flame missions is unlocked and Yuri does a mission w/ black suit Peter. Miles had the better story by far and anti venom is cool, but I’d rather have good narrative, writing, and themes than cool moments.
@Shahriyararin63
9 ай бұрын
@@The-Legend-of-P it already had amazing story. That's why it's nominated for best narrative. But yes it might have flaws but the good outweighs the bad
@adamfry826
7 ай бұрын
i feel ike they could've done better with the side missions a lot of them where pretty generic and boring and in a lot of them you don't rlly fight bad guys you just do chores for people and that's it
@briquesbts
9 ай бұрын
About how the ending would fit well for a third game, I agree, but the third may have a big time skip. It could be really cool
@joshmyers8994
Ай бұрын
This game has the writing of a children’s tv show
@ketgoshi
6 ай бұрын
When it comes to combat, I really enjoy the addition of the parry mechanic. Parrying on time, specially with the symbiote suit, makes you feel so badass and untouchable!
@BlueEyesWhiteCinnamonRoll
9 ай бұрын
I honestly hate the Arkham combat style outside of Arkham. They’re the only guys who made it engaging imo
@amarson2322
6 ай бұрын
arkham style combat is overrated they need to bring more dmc type combat
@markclarke1680
3 ай бұрын
My only issue was Mary Jane, They should’ve kept the older version.
@KuroOokami167
9 ай бұрын
Fair critiques so far. I do enjoy the insight into your thoughts and analysis. I just disagree that Harry should've died because I think the greater message here is hope against uncertainty. I mean... we already had May sacrifice herself for the good of the city in the last game, so this would honestly just be a repeat of that. Sure, when Spider-Man wins, Peter loses, that has been a thing in his stories and represents the struggle for balance, but must he, Peter, always, ALWAYS lose when Spider-Man triumphs? No. I don't think so, especially with the message that we are stronger together. Ordinarily, Peter, by himself might have seen Harry die, but with Miles there, providing not only perspective, but also abilities and power he never did, well, two negatives make a positive so would not two Spider-Men make a victory for Peter? There's balance there. There's taking a chance and being rewarded for it, even though it might deviate from the traditional canon, and why shouldn't it? That's what I think the Spider-Verse movies are getting at. Yes, there will be pain and hardship and loss throughout life, but that isn't all there is, especially when you let people in. You can turn things around and fight back, make a difference, or let someone else make the difference you need. Sure, loss is powerful and I understand that, especially as a Spider-Fan and a fan of Devilman Crybaby (You want powerful storytelling and tragic loss? Check that out!), but I don't think every story needs to, nor should they be that way even with characters that were created in that vein, hell, Spider-Man redefined that kind of tale, and still I think that it's more appropriate to have Peter win this time. He has friends and allies he's never had before that allow him to take the time to heal himself before he starts again at healing the world. May said when you help someone, you help everyone, so in Peter helping Miles he's not only spread that good will into the city he loves, but it's come back to him, and Harry's life is the reward. By helping someone else, he's helped himself too. I think that's the greater message here, and I prefer it this way as now even Norman might have a way back from being the Green, or perhaps even the Red Goblin. Meanwhile, maybe Otto can serve as the tragic message that some people cannot be saved, but we move onward and forward, excelsior. That's my take away anyway, but hey, we all have out stories and our own opinions on what makes them great. I won't say you're wrong because you frankly aren't, Harry's death would have been a great tragedy to spur aspects of the narrative for the sequel in its own way. I just think that Harry living supports the more positive aspects of Spider-Man in that there is hope for a better tomorrow, and you don't have to always struggle through a loss. Sometimes you do get lucky and hit that jackpot. It may not be perfect in this scenario, but it is balanced I feel, and I like that a lot more. If anything... I think the mid section could've been more fleshed out and Miles new suit needed a better build up and reason for being there, like Peter utterly trashing his current one. Anyway, all in all, this is a great review so far, so I'm going to keep watching, only at 11 mins so far. I enjoy your stuff and I came over from your movie channel. Good stuff and keep on going true believer! Excelsior!
@KuroOokami167
9 ай бұрын
Okay, also I feel the ending is great. I don't think it contradicts itself. It's about balance. Peter is going to learn how to balance his personal and Spider-Man life. I mean, he is never going to stop being a hero so long as he can still rise up. And I think they're painting the narrative that there can be more than one Spider-Man, perhaps a Spider-Fam, like what Batman tries to do, only maybe we'll have writers that actually let Pete grow and overcome his issues while learning to rely on others for help. He doesn't have to permanently give up the mantle, and he doesn't have to die or lose. Where there's a will there's a way. Stories don't have to leave you with a closed ending, life doesn't do that, but leaving things open ended may just be what leads us, the audience to a brighter future. Yes, Peter will come back, he's not going to leave. Ya know... what's the point of having a cake if not to eat it too? Forget limitations and let's be open to new possibilities! That's what I'm seeing anyway. Break the canon! Let's go!!!
@KuroOokami167
9 ай бұрын
Yeah, I very much agree with the sum up of the story too. It may be flawed, but I love that they pushed themselves as hard as they could, even if that led to some imperfections, I'm much happier that they took the risk! I love the 2018 Spider-Man game, but 2 just did so much more, and I honestly have to praise it for all that, even the fumbles. Honestly, as much as I love the 1st iteration in this series, I have to say that 2 here is my preferred. I've even gone back to play that first entry and boy... oh boy... this sequel blows it completely out of the water. I do agree that 2018 had a more perfect story, but I much prefer 2's as well as the evolution of the gameplay. I still agree though. Fair critique. Very fair, and well educated.
@KuroOokami167
9 ай бұрын
Okay finished the video and yeah, I agree. It may not be perfect, but even it's flaws can be appreciated, if not forgiven, and I would rather have a rough masterpiece than to never experience this at all. And hey, isn't that just perfect to Peter Parker? A flawed but beautiful mess. Also, on a more personal note: I don't know if it will heal the world, but it did help me heal in my own personal battles.
@surconfidence1
3 ай бұрын
I just finished this game and i loved it. Made me look for another game to play that was similar. I pretty much played all 3 games back to back to back. I'm ready for spider man 3 or miles 2
@briquesbts
9 ай бұрын
My expectations were really high for the story and low for the gameplay because I was already fatigued while playing miles' game. Overalk I felt it was better than expected. Still, a longer would fit the story better, I didn't want to see venom go
@mrwat3r
8 ай бұрын
I fast traveled twice in the whole game. I was 100%ing doing the areas like grids, got to Coney Island (last one), completed the last prowler safe house, only to see I had to go over 5,000m to complete it. I fast traveled there and back.
@lexruptor
9 ай бұрын
I guess the question there is, should you sacrifice a life and commin sense for a better story? Cuz we all know Mikes has bioelectricity, he'd have to try resuscitation anyways, if he's Spider-Man, so just letting Harry die would've made no sense tbh, even if it might fit the themes better.
@DoofEvil
5 ай бұрын
couldvd just have miles try the shock and fail. might add more to norman’s anger
@Nickabob45
9 ай бұрын
This game’s popularity died so quick, I really enjoyed this game, but it’s just the first game, with less gadgets and a shorter story that leads to nothing impactful
@King-mg7vy
9 ай бұрын
The game was not overhyped the fans are hyper, overly excited 12 year olds, who latch onto the new thing....because its the new thing. Look at the videos it spawned, and look at the reaction when it didn't win GOTY. It's just another Spider-man game, a the best one we've gotten since the first one, but it's just another Spider-man game.
@dandewizzle2479
Ай бұрын
I hate what they did with the character of Venom (how he looks and his voice is great). They turned the symbiote into a mind-controlling entity instead of an entity that enhances the existing thoughts, emotions, and feelings of the host. Rather than Harry developing a deep and poisonous hatred for Peter that the symbiote feeds off of, the game portrays Harry as not in control of his actions by the end of the game, and indicates that Harry still loves Peter, but the symbiote is forcing him to do things he doesn't want to do. I hate that. Eddie Brock as Venom was such a cool villain because he truly hated Peter, blamed him for losing his job, losing his wife, and then when he gets his cancer diagnosis, that tips him over the edge. He wanted to kill Peter BEFORE he got the symbiote, and once he got it, he had the means to do so, and he and the symbiote united in that common hatred and became very powerful because of it. Harry and the symbiote should never have been able to become Venom, because they weren't united in their hatred of Peter. So the game fundamentally changes the nature of Venom, which I hate
@johnleonard9102
9 ай бұрын
It's easily the most boring and sanitized take on the Venom Symbiote story I've ever seen.
@guilhermemarques547
2 ай бұрын
For me, my biggest issue with the story is how weak they made Peter look. When he is not using the symbiote, he is constantly being saved by Miles, making stupid decisions and, overall, quite weak. For someone supposed to be Miles’s teacher and mentor, someone with years of experience as Spider-man and, most importantly, after everything he did in the first game, I was pretty disappointed with his character development (or the opposite of it).
@NeOmega83
9 ай бұрын
I'm here. Love your work on Movies. I expect nothing less on games. 🎉
@unowned_ent
9 ай бұрын
I've said this before, but to me the Symbiote Invasion had no place in this game. It came out of nowhere, felt thematically out of place, and was extremely rushed.
@alanviniciuswanderleytavar4399
9 ай бұрын
Did you ever playied older Spider games? Like web of shadows? There's tons of mechanics that they could have brought from them insted of wings
@watchmehope6560
3 ай бұрын
I mean that last arc is a literal rip off from WOS lol. It made me want to play that story instead. 😂
@codyziemer403
8 ай бұрын
"Higher highs and lower lows" was a great way to put it
@marcusclark1339
8 ай бұрын
say it bluntly ITS BAD - every part is horrid - story is a mess of going nowhere with terrible pacing (spider-man 3 game has better pacing than this) - weakest symbiote storyline TO DATE social politics - game worked on by ESG company Sweet Baby Inc - constant emasculation of Peter from MJ and Miles to devalue him, hence his rogue gallery axed in this game to push him out - Miles in any way beating symbiote peter is laughable - MJ tanking a hit from Venom - scene of grown man being beat on and sniveling to a girl half his size and weight - mook enemies are inclusive to women fighters too for no reason than to be beat up by peter, how is that not sexist - Peter over praising Miles for reforming Lee when he did nothing and saying he never could just to over praise him more - Miles all his side missions to some identity or social cue from gay relationship to deaf girl playable segment - Black Cat only here to say she's gay and leave - the puerto rican Flag debacle getting it wrong AGAIN (they got it wrong in EVERY game so far) - Spanish Language butchered for "inclusive speech" - Scream Fight is just Peter acting like a b*tch while being chewed out by MJ and losing the fight in the end - MJ segments laughably over powered to imply she's capable when all it does is highlight how weak Pete and Miles are the fact there's that many is astonishing
@CFLaughs
9 ай бұрын
A truly excellent game with lots of big improvements but it feels like it could've used a little more content to keep it going because after beating the story and side content I'm left with wondering why I ran out of things to do so quickly.
@half8n191
8 ай бұрын
Same!
@shaunavant532
8 ай бұрын
Don't rush and just have fun,that's why
@CFLaughs
8 ай бұрын
@@shaunavant532 but I didn't rush. I spent 33 hours getting to 100% completion status and the game kept me super excited for what was gonna happen next that I just kept going and going
@shaunavant532
8 ай бұрын
@@CFLaughs if it took you more than a day it could have been worse
@FirestoneAnimation
9 ай бұрын
6:16 so basically "Zoo York". And, while I do agree that Harry's death would've hit like a triangle+circle finisher, I'm still happy Harry's alive. Another thing I agree with is the ending definitely should've been saved for a "final" final game, especially since Peter's been Spider-Man for about a decade now. But I still like the idea that Miles will take over the mantle for the time being so Peter can get his life together.
@awsomeboy360
8 ай бұрын
The game was not paced well at all. And the pacing was all over the place.
@0rryp
3 ай бұрын
Not me watching this while eating, never played any Spider-Man game. Never watched any gameplay of it either
@kolberobertbayless-bd3jy
9 ай бұрын
You do such a good job man! You always have the most interesting and intelligent takes. And you cover the stuff I love the most. So thrilled you made this channel too! Your vids make my day so much better. Maybe check out the Force Unleashed games next? Looking forward to the next vid man keep it up!
@AndreySpidey
9 ай бұрын
I wanted more Symbiote Invasion events :(
@KysNow-o4f
3 ай бұрын
I hate how they made MJ scream and Harry Osborn agent venom that’s pretty much it I haven’t played the game yet
@tylervincent2559
3 ай бұрын
Man the writing for Peter & MJ has went downhill. They both act like shells of their former selves from the OG Spider-Man 1. These games started falling off for me ever since they changed Peter’s look.
@kevinjmccloy5865
Ай бұрын
“One of the best spider-man stories ever told” Brother, this game’s story isn’t even the best adaptation of the black suit arc.
@youtubeperson3111
9 ай бұрын
Solid 8/10 imo, messier story than first but everything else apart from maybe the stealth is way better. A person’s opinion on which is better probably depends on what they value most in a game.
@Shahriyararin63
9 ай бұрын
Only 9.5-10/10 scores are accurate. 8/10 is amazing but it's not right for Marvel's Spider Man 2 as the game is better then 8. I agree the story is amazing but it's not really messy. As for the stealth, I will admit it's less focused. To be fair, the stealth doesn't need improvement
@typicalnoahx
9 ай бұрын
@Shahriyararin63 games are subjective so, the story is also a LOT messier compared to the tight & grounded story of the first. btw stealth needs a MASSIVE improvement as it's so brain dead gamplay. npcs are just so dumb😭 and theres barely any interactions in the world. besides those 3 things everything else was a massive upgrade
@Shahriyararin63
9 ай бұрын
@@typicalnoahxat least the story is still amazing that's why it's nominated for best narrative. The rest, I can agree. You can sya that those 3 are the only cons but the good definetly outweighs the bad
@abhinavpandey900
9 ай бұрын
it is definitely above 9 out of 10...flaws are stealth and story is not as good as the first one , but it's not like it's bad....story is good but not better than 1st game....1st game ending really hit hard when may died
@Shahriyararin63
9 ай бұрын
@@abhinavpandey900 I agree. Marvel's Spider Man 2 may have been a better game but the story for the first one is a bit better. Don't get me wrong, I agree that the story in Spider Man 2 is amazing but the first one hits a lot. Although Spider Man 2 is emotional, they do hit hard but not as much as May's death
@dl30wpb
3 ай бұрын
I just finished this game a few days ago. It was average compared to the first game. It was more like an interactive movie with cut scene after cut scene. The wingsuit actually made the game feel like Prototype. The story felt like it was created by AI. Add in political agendas and this game could have been much better.
@chrisville004
9 ай бұрын
I enjoyed the story a lot even with its flaws the biggest issue to me is the lame side missions I have 2 saves both at around 80% I just can’t be bothered to finish some of that bs
@baxterstockman2191
9 ай бұрын
Alot of the side missions were filler trash. Annoying and cringey and pointless
@marcusduck
5 ай бұрын
Lord Farquaad speaking to a mirror at the beginning of the video HAHA
@maximumgibon9698
5 ай бұрын
This game is fucking plot disaster, terrible child of sweet baby inc. poor peter that cant do a shit without miles, killer machine MJ, the villian deaths, fucking PERFECT and GOD Miles, lgbt stuff everything is ruined. Game industry is fucked guys.
@Rich-ku9tv
18 күн бұрын
I wholeheartedly think that insomniac spoiled us so bad with sm1 that the 2nd game was almost impossible to live up to
@claytonrios1
9 ай бұрын
While this game did feel like more of the same when it comes to the gameplay and the pacing I loved it all the same. I don't even mind the Mary Jane sections especially since I think she was written fine.
@Shahriyararin63
9 ай бұрын
It's meant to be the same because it's a sequel and that's how every video game sequels are. And I like that too
@claytonrios1
9 ай бұрын
@@Shahriyararin63 If the original is good and the sequel follows that I don't mind.
@Shahriyararin63
9 ай бұрын
@@claytonrios1 I know that's why I like it too. Plus that's how every video game sequels are. I already agreed with you, I am just adding on to your point
@AceLM92
4 ай бұрын
My theory is that Harry was left alive at the end so that Norman could have an excuse to continue researching to find a cure for him, and Norman will stumble across what will become the Goblin formula. He will test it on himself see that it works and then use it on Harry, but Harry is too weak for it to be effective for him and he dies at the halfway point, leading to Norman to become the Goblin. Maybe also some prototype Oscorp equipment used by a bounty hunter hired by Norman to hunt down Spider-man, maybe even the Hobgoblin, but with the formula and the equipment Norman becomes the Green Goblin to finish the job himself.
@fishertheadore6095
Ай бұрын
King, talk about all the *Wokeness* in Video Games. While Your at it maybe Sweet Baby Inc.
@Ratzilla_91
4 ай бұрын
Right after Kravens death is when the story goes down for me, when venom hits the spotlight it goes to fast for him to even process everything and venom doesn’t even get a worthy amount of screen time
@Hugo_Tate
8 ай бұрын
The dialogue was horrible. Gameplay was fun but not much replay value
@Rockstarrclarke
9 ай бұрын
I bought the game 3 days ago. Within 23 hours of game play I 100 percent ex and got platinum trough. My thoughts. - loved it. The story. The characters. Fantastic. The side quest for mike left a lot to be desired. Personally I thought the 2 was the best spiderman game so far. 1 & 1.5 are right there though.
@Not_So_Slim_Shady
9 ай бұрын
I think things like new controls and directional web yanking made combat feel fresh
@badhival3779
9 ай бұрын
I really think Spiderman 1 was better
@vinxanityhq7122
6 ай бұрын
Same i like the geolay and story of the first one and the gadgets as well but spider man 2 also good coz u can play 2 spider men same time but the story is so short tho
@sarahcasey4465
5 ай бұрын
Spider-Man two is better Spider-Man two is better
@cam4748
9 ай бұрын
These games need deeper mechanics. The 30 hour platinum only sucks because once you get that there’s absolutely nothing else to do. You can’t practice or get better at the game. You’re as good as you’re going to get 5 hours into the game as you’ll ever be
@thetrashcanman7537
8 ай бұрын
Game flopped and died asap 😂
@GameOverloadMO
8 ай бұрын
It’s literally the fastest selling PlayStation release in history.
@thetrashcanman7537
8 ай бұрын
@@GameOverloadMO its “literally” the fastest I’ve seen layoffs happen after a game dropping and losing money at insomniac
@marcusclark1339
8 ай бұрын
as it should of say it bluntly ITS BAD - every part is horrid - story is a mess of going nowhere with terrible pacing (spider-man 3 game has better pacing than this) - weakest symbiote storyline TO DATE social politics - game worked on by ESG company Sweet Baby Inc - constant emasculation of Peter from MJ and Miles to devalue him, hence his rogue gallery axed in this game to push him out - Miles in any way beating symbiote peter is laughable - MJ tanking a hit from Venom - scene of grown man being beat on and sniveling to a girl half his size and weight - mook enemies are inclusive to women fighters too for no reason than to be beat up by peter, how is that not sexist - Peter over praising Miles for reforming Lee when he did nothing and saying he never could just to over praise him more - Miles all his side missions to some identity or social cue from gay relationship to deaf girl playable segment - Black Cat only here to say she's gay and leave - the puerto rican Flag debacle getting it wrong AGAIN (they got it wrong in EVERY game so far) - Spanish Language butchered for "inclusive speech" - Scream Fight is just Peter acting like a b*tch while being chewed out by MJ and losing the fight in the end - MJ segments laughably over powered to imply she's capable when all it does is highlight how weak Pete and Miles are the fact there's that many is astonishing
@TheKevinJStone
2 ай бұрын
I got this game as a bundle with my PS5 & it was absolutely incredible from start to finish! I kept being wowed while playing & the graphics blew me away. It’s the first game that I immediately started playing again after beating it.
@gball6755
4 ай бұрын
my biggest issue was how much of a wussy they made peter in this game. in EVERY SINGLE fight, peter gets farted on, while miles kicks ass, which is just stupid imo, bc last game peter literally took a wet dookie all over the sinister 6 while holding back, and you’re telling me in this game he gets taken down by EVERY villain he fights, AND A REFRIGERATOR?? And not just that, i couldn’t even count the times peter says “i’m sorry” in this game. like why? it’s like they’re trying to paint peter as some washed up submissive afterthought. i like miles, hell i love miles, but MILES IS MILES and PETER IS SPIDERMAN. why give miles all the shine at the expense of peter?
@maleic
4 ай бұрын
7:19 I swear I heard "we've got MJ dealing with heroin issues" the first time
@iloveumali
9 ай бұрын
initial play through was crazy but huge lack of content and no replay value made the hype die quick and i was hype asf for it
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