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@ScreamingFreak
Жыл бұрын
That you are.
@rossjohnstone4689
Жыл бұрын
You are no mere crab, you are a crab king.
@raistwren
Жыл бұрын
The ultimate evolution
@smokescreen100
Жыл бұрын
How would you feel if I ate lobster?
@diegorassetto
Жыл бұрын
Not only a crab, but a king between them all
@MiggyBird
Жыл бұрын
“Mary Sues are what good people look like to someone who does not know what it actually means to be a good person.” Crab just wrote a one-sentence dissertation.
Жыл бұрын
"If the edgelords are more in touch with reality than you, you're in big trouble."
@ornerylurker8296
Жыл бұрын
Reading comprehension is an important skill. Try again, from the top, sound it out one syllable at a time.
@Liliputian07
Жыл бұрын
hot take. i dont think the star wars lady is a mary sue
@BigSeth1090
Жыл бұрын
@@Liliputian07hotter take: if Rey is a Mary Sue, Luke is worse.
@Margen67
Жыл бұрын
birb
@hecklinjekyll3959
Жыл бұрын
"Look, Mary Sue is sacrificing herself so the rest of us can escape!" *Escapes*
@kellyalves756
11 ай бұрын
Hell. Yes. 😄
@Burningpaladin
9 ай бұрын
Mary sue: "NoOooOoOO wHY dOn'T yOu wANt To bRiNg mE bACk!!??!!???!1!!11!???!!!"
@kellyalves756
8 ай бұрын
@@Burningpaladin “And undercut your noble sacrifice? I wouldn’t dream of it!”
@tonuahmed4227
8 ай бұрын
That is one of the coolest RP moment you can ever do,she sounded like RP heavy on the sheets...why wouldn't she go that root ?it would have been a character defining moment for character with true good alignment character(if she was one)
@maxmercurythemm827
Жыл бұрын
Mary Sue: "I am perfect and so nice." Also Mary Sue: Is a coward of the highest caliber at every turn where she can be.
@emberfist8347
Жыл бұрын
That reminds of Zapp Brannigan
@Ethanp5412
7 ай бұрын
Reminds me of Usopp from One Piece
@thetriathigamer1544
7 ай бұрын
@@Ethanp5412 Usopp is cool though, he actually has flaws and good character traits
@BadassHater1
6 ай бұрын
@@Ethanp5412 oi! Don't you dare compare Usopp to her! He is a 100 times better character than she could have ever been
@_zerohour_
5 ай бұрын
@@Ethanp5412 Yeah but Usopp can come in clutch when he needs to, and his intelligence and knack for strategy is seriously a huge carry for him. Usopp is awesome.
@jakedoesyoutube
Жыл бұрын
The fact she called her teammates cowards after she was hiding in the back and camping the entire game is hilarious.
@aaronreynolds1504
Жыл бұрын
I had a game where my players were searching for some children that had gone missing from the town. They figured out that the children had been taken by a vampire, and tracked them to the vampire home which was a run down mansion. Inside they learned that the vampire had already turned the children. They also found a diary stating that in life the vampire had been a wealthy nobleman and that his children had been struck with a terrible disease that caused them to atrophy over several months, during which time they suffered from terrible pain before they eventually died. He had used all of his fortune to try to find a cure, but to no avail. Not even the most powerful clerics could cure them. He the children he took and turned also were in the early stages of this same disease. He turned them to prevent them from suffering as his children did. The party now had to decide how to proceed.
@A_Shadow87
Жыл бұрын
So what was the course of action?
@Patrickf5087
Жыл бұрын
Great story, now finish it
@aaronreynolds1504
Жыл бұрын
@@A_Shadow87 @Patrick5087 After killing the vampire, the party decided the most merciful course of action was to end their suffering.
@MandalorV7
Жыл бұрын
I remember reading a Captain America comic sort of similar. In WWII U.S soldiers were getting turned into vampires thralls. So Steve had to kill them. Turned out it was a kid vampire behind it all. So Bucky took her down.
@notoriousgoblin83
Жыл бұрын
One of the sadistic DM things, where there is simply no right answer
@TitusRedwind
Жыл бұрын
Holier than thou characters can definitely work if you give them a proper arc. The only problem is that Mary Sue didn't see their character as being flawed.
@crismonBlue
Жыл бұрын
Holier than thou characters can even be extremly interesting. For example a character that used to be a criminal and is on the path of redemption and instead of just trying to be a good normal person, overcorrect and try to be as mary sue as possible, but crack down on it every now and than, like little break downs here and there that beeing good is hard etc. and eventually reaching a point for self improvement etc.
@sladewilson9741
Жыл бұрын
No, the girl can play the character she wants. Honestly, the OP sounds like the problem in this story.
@thatindiandude4602
Жыл бұрын
@@sladewilson9741yes, she can. She can also bear the consequences of that character. I won't be surprised if you share the same twat like behaviour.
@wooblydooblygod3857
Жыл бұрын
@@sladewilson9741? He honestly had more problems with the person than the character too.
@VenomGamingCenter
Жыл бұрын
@@sladewilson9741Lol no. Dumb take.
@Floraclaw
Жыл бұрын
5:10 "Now you meant the character, here's the horror story" Me: That wasn't the horror story? She sounds terrible and needs to go from that alone!
@IlyTheVampire
Жыл бұрын
She was, truly, but I wanted to give a specific example (and it was a fun segue)
@Xenobears
Жыл бұрын
Way back in middle school, I had an issue with a DM finding ways to kill my character-and only my character-every single session. I got the hint after a few new character sheets with random rolled stats done in front of the DM. Notable deaths include: Sorcerer: death by swarm of kobolds (fair enough, they specifically targeted the caster) Wizard: familiar eaten by a passing dragon. While I was in combat (reason given: you don’t show enough interactions with the familiar outside of encounters). Barbarian: one-shot by a bugbear using a mace-used sneak to get a surprise round in my favor, rolled 19, bugbear failed the spot check. Then another player “reminded” the DM that the bugbear has a ferret pet (why would he know this?) and the ferret had a +10 to spot. Bugbear turned around as I was preparing to swing and got a crit (hidden roll) and did three times my hp in damage. Reason: The DM said that Barbarians don’t sneak. Yes, the hunter-gatherer from the steppes who hunts wild game apparently doesn’t sneak-ever. It was at this point where I realized that the group either just didn’t like me or I had somehow gotten shoehorned into the position of being the group’s free source of extra starting loot (the party robbed my corpse blind every time my characters died). So, I dropped the campaign.
@thahirshibu5042
10 ай бұрын
Dicks that are too spineless to tell you they don't like you so they become even worse by doing what they're doing to you
@EnraiChannel
9 ай бұрын
Unfortunate. And I feel like the reason was the more sinister one, because for starting gear the DM could have just handed more stuff if they wanted. Unless they played D&D like a videogame which is also silly. I hope you and many others are playing in better tables nowadays.
@Floweramon
Жыл бұрын
Another version of the trolley problem I've heard is where the large group of people are people you don't know and the one person is someone you care about. So then the moral dilemma gets new facets: is the life of the person you care about worth more than a large group of innocent people?
@CritCrab
Жыл бұрын
That's a good one
@Patrickf5087
Жыл бұрын
Easy the person I know gets priority. For all I know they could be criminals
@Kaare-The-Heathen
Жыл бұрын
@@Patrickf5087or they could just be normal people with families of their own. If it was my mother, I'd pull the lever even if there was nobody on the other track.
@remrad4315
Жыл бұрын
I redirect the trolly to the one person and move them off the tracks. Or I just destroy the trolley.
@morrigankasa570
Жыл бұрын
@@remrad4315I agree with "DESTROYING THE TROLLEY"! I personally disagree with forcing "Moral Dilemmas" like that in general.
@Mordring
Жыл бұрын
I recently introduced my mother to the Mary Sue term (we're not native English speakers and she's from a generation that didn't study tropes passionately). She's been reading novels by a popular female author and last week she shared that, while the novels are entertaining as they're set in a historical setting with just the main characters being fictional, she's tired of literally every protagonist being an extremely beautiful girl who's at the same time also very smart, competent in her field and talented in one or more artistic skills (and, when the story is set in more dangerous times, also a capable martial figther). Of course, she's also pursued by every male character in the story (and sometimes even a few female). When I explained Mary Sue trope she couldn't agree more and then came to the conclusion she won't be reading anything by that author anymore as, though she likes the settings, those characters being so perfect are simply too boring for her liking.
@oo-vivian
Жыл бұрын
Your mom sounds fun to talk to
@Mordring
Жыл бұрын
@@oo-vivian she's quite based and doesn't buy into modern trends. Sometimes she's more ruthless than I am with criticism of lazy storytelling.
@oo-vivian
Жыл бұрын
@@Mordring pls tell her that a random person on the internet thinks she sounds like a very cool mom
@teoadventures2564
Жыл бұрын
Who is the author?
@Mordring
Жыл бұрын
@@teoadventures2564 it's a Polish author Joanna Jax, only popular here, not really known abroad.
@DaijDjan
Жыл бұрын
All this talk about the Trolley problem reminds me of a KZitem video where a father tries it with a wooden train and his 2-3 year old daughter. Her solution was picking up the single person on the other lane, putting it aside the others, then rolling them all over laughing loudly 😂
@rickay5363
Жыл бұрын
😂
@PhantomGato-v-
Жыл бұрын
The true solution
@Pixelusually
5 ай бұрын
No more survivors guilt
@NoahRoss-yn2hw
Ай бұрын
if you go to r/trolleyproblems they always say multi track drift
@ytimalaC977
Ай бұрын
The perfect answer
@clericofchaos1
Жыл бұрын
Ah a mary sue, one of the classic campaign destroyers. I saw a dm counter one once with a gary stu that existed only to upstage the mary sue. He left the rest of us alone. Best part about that though was when he made the token for gary stu, he used a real photo of Gary Busey...hell yeah, we had the craziest bastard the world has ever seen in our game.
@Linosek279
Жыл бұрын
Based
@youtubeistrash2347
9 ай бұрын
So fucking based
@GameJam230
Жыл бұрын
5:36 It's basically the "Nice guy vs good guy" dilemma. One describes somebody who does their best to br PERCEIVED as a good person, but does it for manipulative reasons, whereas the other is a legitimately good person.
@lollikabosso.w.n7153
Жыл бұрын
Honestly, as a dm, ive always felt more like mary sue, cause i tried to make some characters seem nice to the players, while my players were basicaly good psychopaths, to whom didnt matter, if ending slavery meant mass genocide of the slavers, only thing that mattered, is that The veteran gets to fix all the issues and saves his people Drunk was Satisfied from battles and murder of slavers, as he was a former slave who lost his eye for freedom And intelectual was stuck with these 2 maniac, who could at any point eat his fingers for 2 different reasons
@GameJam230
Жыл бұрын
@@lollikabosso.w.n7153 This has been a mental rollercoaster to read 😂
@lollikabosso.w.n7153
Жыл бұрын
@@GameJam230 thats pretty much what my players make as their characters whenever we play any roleplay Sometimes, we get new people in it, but they usualy try to survive the drunk by the time we start
@Dice-Z
Жыл бұрын
@@lollikabosso.w.n7153 I can hardly understand what you are saying tbh
@lollikabosso.w.n7153
Жыл бұрын
@@Dice-Z k
@JeffandBCProductions
Жыл бұрын
I made a paragon once. He was my first character; an Aasimar Paladin and angel who had been struck down from the heavens in a demonic invasion and lost his wings/memory. He was killed by Straahd in the final fight (the DM ran one) in a fit of self-sacrifice. The DM was kind enough to let me body block with my “protection” fighting style. My boy gained his wings that day 🥲
@emberfist8347
Жыл бұрын
I don't see any problems with a paragon. But your character was legitimate paragon. Not like Mary Sue who is self-serving.
@Tunda2
Жыл бұрын
“A toxic person’s idea of a good person” absolutely perfect explanation
@peepopopo7140
Жыл бұрын
Not finished with the video. I just wanted to say that, while it's important to challenge the players tactically and morally, it can be emotionally draining to continually present them with problems that have no good solutions (speaking from personal experience). Dnd, as with real life, is rarely composed of unavoidable dichotomies. If your players find a way to derail the trolley without hurting anyone, you should let them.
@bestaround3323
Жыл бұрын
Exactly, don't just throw the trolley problem at them. Make it not a binary choice. You can give hard problems with no correct options. Where several valid options exist, that each have a moral justification. Yet no one best option exists. That doesn't mean the party can't try to do it all, but it's possible they might fail at everything. You also don't need to have complex moral problems when playing. It is perfectly valid to have a black and white game where the party is the heros and the enemies are just evil. Some times you don't want to have a "realistic" game, and just want some silly fun.
@bellknight3310
Жыл бұрын
Yes, even Baldur's Gate 3 understands this, and includes it into a certain party member's questline. Spoilers for what it is below. In Act 3, Wyll's Father is taken prisoner, and Mizora offers to tell Wyll where he is, and help in retrieving him, in return for Wyll's soul. It's presented like the trolley problem, however you can find his father and release him anyway, however he is in an incredibly dangerous situation, and on top of that Mizora will try to kill him. Ultimately, however, it's possible to save him without signing away Wyll's soul. And it's the perfect example of this very concept.
@zoro115-s6b
Жыл бұрын
Yea, a good DM should encourage creative problem solving. Forcing players into a binary choice where neither option is something they want to do is far from good DMing. By all means make being a paragon difficult, but don't just artificially make it impossible. Real life is never as simple as a hypothetical trolley.
@xSaraxMxNeffx
11 ай бұрын
the point is not to offer an unsolvable problem. its to offer a problem that is not EASILY solvable all on your own. it will either require some sacrifice, or some form of help.
@tornadobrain8935
Жыл бұрын
I keep seeing his eye stalks as a mustache and it frightens me to think of him turning around. Love the vids CritCrab, makes my day when you post!
@ezrabaeza992
Жыл бұрын
It’s not a mustache?
@tornadobrain8935
Жыл бұрын
@@ezrabaeza992 that’s what I realized. I am scared by it. Y’know how crabs have stems that their eyes are on? That is his sweet ‘stache. I refuse to fully accept it
@redchan_ebooks
Жыл бұрын
oh my god, I've never noticed they were eyestalks until now
@Hjorth87
Жыл бұрын
I bloody hate crabs irl. Just as bad as spiders for some reason. Cartoon ones are pretty cute. Though. And yes, I thought it was a mustache too
@MotiviqueStudio
Жыл бұрын
Gah... you just destroyed the entire illusion for me...
@davidspring4003
Жыл бұрын
Here's my take on the trolley problem. Once you become aware of it, inaction is the same as action, so by ignoring it, you are actively choosing to let the larger number die.
@realdragon
Жыл бұрын
People die every day, big deal
@furnishclippings4183
Жыл бұрын
I’d have to disagree with you here. Usually the trolly problem goes on long enough to end up with someone essentially playing judge, jury, and executor which never sat right with me.
@ianesgrecia8568
Жыл бұрын
@@furnishclippings4183 Choice by omission is still a choice. It may fool some ignorant minds with the "but it wasn't my hand that decided' but it's still a choice they made
@dosde8391
Жыл бұрын
Yeah but by moving the lever you are actively killing 1 person, thats what the whole trolley problems leads to with the situation of pushing a passerby to slow down the trolley and the doctor one about extracting the organs of a healthy patient to save 3 patients lives.
@ianesgrecia8568
Жыл бұрын
@@dosde8391The problem with the doctor is that unless given procedure consent on the organs, the donor is still responsable of their lives, not the doctor. If the donor is about to die anyway them there could be an actual problem WITH the organs, but that is another problem. One could even argue the doctor could even use their own organs to save some. The trolley on another hand is not about consent of the victims. The one is not givin his life for the others on their consent. The driver is choosing between lanes that can not be stopped. That is the diference. The doctor not acting is an act of not having consent on a patient. The driver not acting is an actual choice of omission.
@mhasemore
Жыл бұрын
The moment Mary Sue made that insensitive suicide comment, someone should've asked "does your character say that, or is it out of character?" If in character, someone should have bitch slapped them right then and there. Would have loved to hear about her reaction to such a thing.
@emberfist8347
Жыл бұрын
If it was out of character I expect someone would react the same way.
@TitusRedwind
Жыл бұрын
I try to never make my characters overwhelmingly good on the moral spectrum. The most benevolent character i made was a paladin who swore to protect the innocent and vulnerable at any cost. He didn't care about dirtying his hands if it meant protecting those he deemed worthy of protecting. He'd be willing to spill blood if it came down to it and he wouldn't feel much regret.
@solouno2280
Жыл бұрын
sounds like one of my characters... spoiler alert, he ended undead two times, and both void of emotions made him bored to the end and a doom sayer
@swizzamane8775
Жыл бұрын
"this is just what would happen if a dnd player got bit by a radioactive narcissist" my effin gawd, you killed it with that remark 😂😂😂 I love this crab so much 😊❤😊
@cmhsky
Жыл бұрын
This Mary Sue makes me mad because this stuff is one of my biggest peeves people do irl. Watch evil stuff happen, claim they're good people cause they didn't do it. Even though they did nothing to stop it or help the victims
@EwMatias
Жыл бұрын
Do not present trolley problems to your players, and if you do, allow them to take a third option. Unless they specifically sat down to have you fuck with them, they won't appreciate it, and they will be right.
@OrtegaSauce
3 ай бұрын
I would've, as my rogue, told the party I'm not helping her and just sitting at the base of a tree smoking a cigar
@Nerobyrne
Жыл бұрын
The trolley problem is a red herring. You either allow one person to die or four, because the person to blame is whoever tied them to the tracks. It's designed to test if you can readily identify dilemmas and take the route with less negative outcome. However, you can actually set something like this up that's more grey. Like if the one person is the target of their quest, and they have no connection to the four people.
@quirda77
10 ай бұрын
But it's not really a red herring. The problem isn't asking who's to blame, just if you had the capacity to save 4 people at the cost of a life or would you or not.
@sammyvillano9502
Жыл бұрын
I gave my players a “Don’t open the box” test where they were given a wizard looking chest to take down to the very bottom of the college- it was unlocked and the whole time the box begged to be opened- one of the players gave in to temptation and got attacked by tendrils and saw horrors of oblivion- I didn’t know if the box would be opened frankly. It was a test to see how my players would react and it was great 😂
@Psilo-gn1sx
Жыл бұрын
"Mary Sues are what good people look like to someone who doesn't know what it actually means to be a good person" Damn, bars
@tora9567
11 ай бұрын
I saw this comment as soon as he said it in the video
@battlesheep2552
7 ай бұрын
Explains why Hollywood makes them all the time
@PaladinGear15
Жыл бұрын
This is what happens when a spoiled entitled brat sees even the tiniest hint of consequence for their actions.
@MitchellTF
Жыл бұрын
This is actually interesting as an inverted trolley problem. If you don't act, one innocent will die. If your party chooses to act, four people MAY die.
@dosde8391
Жыл бұрын
The trolley problem is actually deeper than that. Let me explain. The 1st (the one everyone knows) presents the choice between saving 3 people by moving the trolley to a different track with 1 person. On that situation a large percent of people will save 3 since there are more lives at stake. In the 2nd the same problem appears, a trolley is heading towards 3 victims, but another person is also looking at the situation. You have the option to push this person so the trolley slows down with the body, saving the other 3. (This one has a lower percent of people in favour than the previous one) The last situation you are a doctor and you have 3 patients, with terminal cancer in 1 vital organ each. Thankfully you have another healthy patient waiting in the next room. The choice is to either let your 3 patients die or extract those organs from the healthy patient, killing it in the process. Surprisingly this is the least chosen option. Why? *The implication in it.* In all 3 cases you sacrifice 1 person to save 3, all dying by your choice. The 1st one its just a lever, the 2nd a push and the last active murder. So by that logic the correct answer applied to the mary is to do nothing. Dont save her but neither sacrifice her just let her own actions carry out.
@tehripper6
Жыл бұрын
its only ethical to save the 3 in the first scenario, since all the parties were already in trouble to begin with. if you save the 3 in the other 2 scenarios you are setting the rule/precedent that its morally good for any individual to murder any innocent healthy person as long as it helps 2 or more others. and since there are always others more in need than you in society, that rule would always result in your own eventual murder.
@MaxRavenclaw
Жыл бұрын
@@leastselfawarepotassium I'm pretty sure NOT murdering a random patient to forcefully harvest their organs to potentially save 3 other people is the 'correct' answer.
@tyrrollins
Жыл бұрын
The only way to win is not to play.
@MaxRavenclaw
Жыл бұрын
@@leastselfawarepotassium I specifically mentioned the last example because it's the one with the most obvious solution. You need to be a psychopath to think murdering a random individual to harvest their organs is the same as letting 3 sick people to die through inaction. The others at least have a certain degree of debatability, though good luck arguing the 2nd one in front of a judge. It's grossly arrogant to assume you should even be make the decision yourself, so inaction is usually the safest bet. Plus there's the issue of the aforementioned societal implications that others mentioned.
@tehripper6
Жыл бұрын
what? of course there's a correct answer so long as we agree on basic first principles such as "life = good; murder = bad". I explained the answer. In the first scenario, taking the action is morally justifiable but supererogatory and in the other scenarios is morally unjustifiable to take the action.@@leastselfawarepotassium
@benn454
Жыл бұрын
That sounds a lot like the Death House in Curse of Strahd. Fuck that place. Lost my Wizard to those damn Shadows.
@PhoenixWeaver
Жыл бұрын
I don't understand why people want to make Mary Sue's, they're not fun. One of the flaws I'm putting into a lot of my characters for DnD is confidence issues. Either in their identity, their ability to fight on their own two feet, relationships or even just self image issues. I like having my character's build more confidence in themselves and it's great to see my notes at the beginning to how they are at the end Edit: My first character died in a spin off campaign and I was devastated. I never forced any of my friends to risk themselves to revive them but they all wanted to since they liked my character. THAT'S HOW YOU MAKE A CHARACTER PEOPLE WANT TO REVIVE
@lightbringer502
Жыл бұрын
You're assuming everyone has fun the same way you do. Some people just want to wank themselves off over a power fantasy where their character has no negative traits, no conflicts and no risks. Writers like you and I understand that making a character flawed and giving them opportunities to grow provides intrigue and development, but people who make Mary-Sues aren't interested in that stuff. They most likely see their character as a projection of their selves and don't want to confront their own flaws in real time. I imagine it's similar to the reason why people cheat in video games - some people will gain great satisfaction from struggling through countless deaths to finally beat the boss, while others will just use invincibility and unlimited ammo to get the same result and feel just as good.
@PoochMG
Жыл бұрын
Tried to solo a horde of zombies, without using turn, expecting her squad of one tap warlocks and rogues to come die for her... Nah, no narcissism there. None at all lol.
@jessk1683
4 ай бұрын
i worry so much about being someone's 'that player'. as in, constantly. but then i listen to these kind of stories and i think, it must be really difficult to do this by accident.
@thegoldentriforce542
Жыл бұрын
The sad thing is, think over your moral dilemma from the point of a Paladin I made named Lilly (she was a kind to a fault person and had some light levels of naivety) where I would try to think of a way to save them but leave them if I feel it's needed, I know that Lilly would try everything in her power to save them, even at the cost of her own life. (P.s. Lilly has now been dead for three sessions, she died holding off a powerful monster while giving the rest of the party a chance to flee. R.I.P Lilly)
@suzannepottsshorts
Жыл бұрын
Sounds like Lily would sacrifice herself to the trolley to save everyone else.
@thegoldentriforce542
Жыл бұрын
@@suzannepottsshorts if that was an option, yes. Yes she would.
@xboxoneyes7734
7 ай бұрын
Boy That escalated quickly
@gobgub
Жыл бұрын
I recently got back into DnD and found your channel by accident while searching for information. Your content is really entertaining, keep up the good work!
@VirtuesOfSin
Жыл бұрын
As a good character, the real answer to the trolley problem is to derail the train at grave mortal danger to yourself. The life of the one is the only life you are justified to sacrifice.
@marybdrake1472
Жыл бұрын
She is such a toxic individual, there s no way what so ever she should have been tolerated to any extent.
@SudrianTales
Жыл бұрын
I disagree with your sentiments on Superman, when he's written well, the poor guy will do the right thing even if it involves death but will seek the best course of action for all parties. That can make a very interesting character who has power but chooses to use it in a way to help and not always harm. Plus, Superman is weak to a lot of stuff Also solution to trolley problem, move the switch to the middle to derail said trolley
@Xylarxcode
Жыл бұрын
You don’t solve the trolley problem with a mechanical solution. It’s a moral conundrum. You choose a side to save and then you justify why you believe that side was more worth saving. If you ‘solve’ the problem any other way you’re ignoring the point of it. Why even bother at that point?
@SudrianTales
Жыл бұрын
@Xylarxcode it's looking at a third option and something DMs should be prepared to deal with. A party won't always act the way they do and like I said above. Will derail the proverbial trolley as like life, thr world isn't black or white, it's multiple choice in ways we can't account.
@emberfist8347
Жыл бұрын
@@Xylarxcode Because solving it that way is making a moral statement. That statement is that you can't weigh the relative values of people's lives.
@Astricozy
Жыл бұрын
Guarantee the DMs have just never interacted with a woman and give them everything they want thinking it somehow makes them attractive. Had the same happen to me on Roll20 where I've had DMs outright ask if I want magic items, just cos. Utter cringe.
@sussusamogus4714
3 ай бұрын
Suddenly the story makes more sense, thank you for saying this lol (although I did assume the OP here was also a woman). Absolutely insane that the others would just enable this kind of behaviour that repeatedly attempts to tear down the group's atmosphere, but now I have an idea why at least
@Jvegas2281
Жыл бұрын
Just last week I played my very first game of D&D and had a great time! I remembered your and Drake's videos and made sure to be a positive team player.
@heededshadow509
Жыл бұрын
So many people throw fits when their character dies meanwhile I'm over here like "YES! I fucked up their build and now I can make a new character without those errors!"
@Sanodi21
Жыл бұрын
I had a feeling that the Mary Sue of this story would throw a fit and blame everyone like usual instead of accepting responsibility, but she basically went full DARVO. She was the true victim, it was everyone else's fault that things went bad, etc.
@Mordring
Жыл бұрын
Ah, always good to find someone familiar with DARVO! Once you're able to recognise it early (at the D stage) you really can't be manipulated or gaslighted ever again.
@itsgenguy7275
Жыл бұрын
If you don't mind me asking, what does DARVO stand for?
@Sanodi21
Жыл бұрын
@@itsgenguy7275 It stands for 'deny, attack, and reverse victim and offender'. She denied it was her fault via action, she attacked the DM for her character dying and the others for not helping, and she made herself the victim by saying, again, saying the DM killed her character.
@thepanelbiter9915
Жыл бұрын
The thing with the trolley problem is that it’s just as much about what happens before the trolley hits as it is about after it hits. Allowing your character to live with the consequences, reflect on their decision, and letting it help develop your character is part of character building.
@stuartwalker9597
Жыл бұрын
Me trying to beat my Kickstarter addiction Crit crab: here is an awesome 3 book campaign Me: damn youuuuuuu
@jackmack4181
Жыл бұрын
2:11 Oh I already hate her, rather than actually helping out in an actual roleplay moment, it’s used as a throwaway line of how “perfectly wholesome I am” Bah
@Takisan111
Жыл бұрын
One of the characters I've used at least a couple times now is a himbo drow that is a big ball of positivity, helpfulness, and friendliness. On the surface, he could be seen as a Gary Stu or someone with main character energy. He's also probably one of the hardest characters for me to play because the reason he's like that is very personal. His outward kindness is a partly a front for how scared he actually is of being seen as unlovable. See, growing up neurodivergent, I changed a lot of myself because no one that got to know me liked me for very long and the ones that did were more amused by the superficial image I gave off. I started putting on a daily performance that I was something quite different just so people would stick around. My character is this taken to the extreme where he stuck with the social facade he created so long he doesn't really have anything else to fall back on socially when making friends. This is also why he always takes a bit of Barbarian in later levels because he has to start facing his issues and he doesn't know how to handle it in a constructive way. Yeah you can imagine how much it must suck for someone that always prided himself in being kind and friendly with everyone to suddenly have random bouts of anger break through at inconvenient times.
@tonuahmed4227
8 ай бұрын
This doesn't seem like Gary stu tho...but is really beautiful character...
@dredgendorchadas6770
Жыл бұрын
Now I kinda want to make a bard who is beloved by all, but is easily deceived by all as well and takes everything as the honest truth. Npc: I swear the gods are after me Bard: walks away slowly Npc: that's not the mcguffin, that's just eyeliner Bard: OH, how does it work? What color is it? Where do you find these?
@emmasilver2332
Жыл бұрын
I love it!
@Konpekikaminari
Жыл бұрын
you're already displaying a better understanding of the concept of "character flaws" than a Mary Sue player
@scytheproduction7667
Жыл бұрын
Dont worry Crit, being allergic to air is something i have to suffer everyday I feel your pain, we'll get through this mate
@Featuring_Dinty_From_Beef_Stew
Жыл бұрын
Rey and Kirito have essentially become the faces of Mary Sues.
@cy-one
Жыл бұрын
No idea who Kirito is, but agreed on Rey.
@Konpekikaminari
Жыл бұрын
@@cy-one Main character of Sword Art Online Dude's entire character basically boils down to 2 things: "I love my GF" (made worse by him basically having a harem) and "I'm objectively better at this than anyone else"
@cy-one
Жыл бұрын
@@Konpekikaminari Deep. My "I'm 20 years too late to the party to be a teenage edgelord, but damn if I'm not gonna make an edgy vampire character _now_"-edgelord vampire character has more depth than that :D
@erickelly1323
Жыл бұрын
Basically a Mary sue is South Parks Cartman in the Episode "Good Times with Weapons". "My power is I can have any power I want."
@enderkatze6129
Жыл бұрын
Fun fact: a current theory as to why allergies are increasingly common in the Western world is because we lack parasites that calm our immune system.
@floor413
Жыл бұрын
Okay, at first I didn’t entirely get the problem, specifically because the whole ‘holier that thou’ virtuous archetype can be played well in a comedic light… but then this person just straight up started cheating and I lost hope lol
@risingdawn6510
Жыл бұрын
I guess its cause they just want to "look" good rather than be good. Like how they would watch truly kind hearted protagonist from manga or tv shows and think "Oh wow, I want to be treated like a hero/princess like how the main protagonist are, but I don't get why are they treated like that. Anyway, I will just look only at their surface kindness attitudes and not the deeper reasons of why they are so kind." then proceeds to try make that a reality even if she were to maker herself look bad cause she could at least feel "good" through her character. Even if people were to call her out, at least they can't say that she created a "good" character *cough*sarcasm*cough* but yes, the "the holier than thou" trope can be super comedic XD
@EthanWright-t2t
Жыл бұрын
I think it's worth mentioning that not everyone wants a moral dilemma in their TTRPG. Some of us just like to relax, make simple characters in simple situations, and overall not take the funny little pretend game quite that seriously. I respect that a lot of people want more grey stories, and I can certainly appreciate them as well, it's just that I don't really want to be that grey character. Difficult situations are interesting, but you best believe that most of my characters will do the most simplistic black/white moral option available, even to their own detriment. Of course, this is where communication comes in to establish the general tone of the game in relation to what the players, GM included, want to play/do.
@guyvizard549
9 ай бұрын
I just started practicing running a Shadowrun game. Things can always be SO grey in that game setting, so instead I've opted for a more "Grand Theft Auto" vibe (without the immature humor) in my "underworld/fantasy/cyberpunk crime game." it doesn't always need to be about racism, classism, starving to death, surviving, etc. It's also about paydays, learning the ropes, going out for drinks, kicking the butt of an abusive drug dealer who has underground "hell hound" fights, or getting in the middle of a shootout in a convenience store and slipping around on the soy-based olive oil while targeting. Seeing a Great Dragon speak of American politics on a CNBC talk show. (That one always gets me...) The point is, I remember that players want, maybe need, some kind of catharsis from time to time. What fun is it if it's not fun, sometimes?
@EthanWright-t2t
9 ай бұрын
Gotta be honest, I think I'd love playing in your campaign. @@guyvizard549
@LordSvzklx
Жыл бұрын
Never seen any of the truly “edgy” or creepy or vile examples Crabs normally brings up but this, this is an archetype I’ve had to deal with! Wasn’t in DnD, just a looser chat room rpg sort of thing, but we had one player who’s character always had to be the centre of things, could always get away with things, always knew the right things, always seemed to be developing new powers and oh by the way did we mention she’s literally the child of the setting’s main deity? A deity who was supposed to be absent from the setting at best yet apparently had no problem coming over whenever for daddy daughter days. The player herself was also quite passive aggressive and manipulative, with a habit of using the bad news in her life as leverage whenever criticism was levelled against her. However unlike this story I’m pretty sure I know exactly why she was afforded so much leeway; she was the only girl in a game otherwise full of teenage boys. All the characters she made were in in-game romances with other characters and the player herself attempted real life romances with two of the players. Thing is she didn’t start out that bad. I think she just realised how easy it was to get what she wanted and it all kind of got out of hand
@Yithiru
Жыл бұрын
I once played a good character in a morally grey group. One of the companions became an undead and my character faced the dilemma of following her usual "destroy all undead" routine or accept that not all undead might be evil. She ran away from the group, got kidnapped and saved by her friends. Thus she accepted her undead companion and got even closer to them than ever. Afterwards she never really stepped in when one of her friends was about to do something evil. Through it all she battled her conscience in her mind, looking for the right path. One day she saw a vampire and snapped -she fired holy spells at him without trying talking first. Her goddess saw that and blinded her. My character then remembered her goddess' lesson about compassion and forgiving, giving everyone a chance to better themselves and not judging them for one thing they have done. I really liked that character arc and it was very fun! Playing a "overly good" character is hard if you want to stay true to them and also not hinder your group. But it gives the DM and players the chance to work together to create a good story. The Mary-Sue player here however didn't seem to factor in other people...
@yaromier1680
Жыл бұрын
Ed: I got something very wrong, this is not true. 'Trolley problem isn't a moral dilemma, it was a satiric joke that represented the stupidity of made up dilemmas, and now everyone's quoting it like a real thing.'
@queen-lilyorjiako268
5 ай бұрын
What? Wasn't it literally a section in this giant moral dilemma from a college professor?
@yaromier1680
5 ай бұрын
@@queen-lilyorjiako268 Yeah, sorry, I got it wrong. It was first introduced by Phillipa Foot in order to depict the problematic of the catholic Doctrine of the Double effect, and her article was about . Later the modified version was introduced by Judith Thompson, and as far as I understood, in the article she depicts it as completely solved and uses it to describe moral implications on the difference between killing and letting someone die. Overall, the trolley problem does not work good for describing ethics and is a pretty lazy depiction of a dilemma. It was used by original authors for the sake of describing broad moral concepts, and not for making direct points.
@delivererofdarknessshoguno1133
Жыл бұрын
While the player was an awful narcicist, I still don't understand the DM's obsession with forcing gray morality on everyone. I mean, somebody wants to play a good character, why not let them?
@Cc-Ghosthorse
5 ай бұрын
It's a problem with a Mary Sue. Who thinks playing a character that would shove their friends in danger to wait until both the team mates and enemies are near dead to do the' saved every one in the end'. Hard decisions are part of the game that should be for everyone. Grey morality scenes can be unique to each player as they make the best move for them.given the situation. A Mary Sue doesn't want to make those decisions cause no matter what.it will make their perfect character imperfect.
@alexanderwizardjar9540
Жыл бұрын
Am I early enough to sit by the Crab Throne, next to the King?
@mitth_raw_nuruodo
Жыл бұрын
Perhaps
@rossjohnstone4689
Жыл бұрын
As the queen or the fool?
@smokescreen100
Жыл бұрын
Possibly my good crab. Possibly.
@alexanderwizardjar9540
Жыл бұрын
@@rossjohnstone4689as a butler or something. Maybe a cup holder
@jasonrustmann7535
Жыл бұрын
"I don't know why *she* got preferential treatment" c'mon buddy, i think you know why
@IlyTheVampire
Жыл бұрын
Really, I know for a fact that it's not that.
@randomguy6679
6 ай бұрын
@@IlyTheVampirehow so?
@IlyTheVampire
6 ай бұрын
I mean, I was the one who posted the story on Reddit, I know the people involved. One of the weirdly forgiving DMs wasn't even into girls. The only one who liked her in that sense was the guy who helped her set up her sheet - they actually dated for a while.
@Inhaledcorn
Жыл бұрын
My character, Ash, came across a moral dilemma like the one where you described several times where the party is getting wiped out, and he can either try to save them or himself. Each time, he chose himself. He was the only one to survive the campaign from start to finish.
@ianesgrecia8568
Жыл бұрын
Only problem here is that the trolley/doctor problem of 1/5 lives dilemma only works when you have no information. The moment you input information you weight the importance of each life on a parameter: be it their professions, their age or even their sex. You CAN make a trolley problem on RPG very easily, but to make it REALLY controversial is very dificult.
@HopefulInnocence
Жыл бұрын
Sorry late reply. I was volunteering in a high school that had a similar problem and was teaching about cognitive bias. A ship is sinking and so many passenger boats. You are given half the information,, like age, sex and what they looked like. Only after the exercise was the rest like Profession, Criminal history and Health. It was interesting to see these 13 year old children as they came to their own conclusions about who to save. But I completely agree, the minute you start adding in details - you start weighing consciously or not.
@emberfist8347
Жыл бұрын
@@HopefulInnocence Except there is a bit of a problem with that analogy. Unless it is an anomalous incident like the Titanic, there would be enough lifeboats to ferry everyone but it would take multiple trips.
@HopefulInnocence
Жыл бұрын
@@emberfist8347 Thanks for the reply. Yeah in practice. But no matter which way you spin it, the trolley problem is the same with just with different window dressings. A circumstance or two is put in place and that creates a dilemma in which a shortage of X and too much of Y. The high school teacher decided to use a ship and not enough lifeboats as there window dressing.
@kamidarko
5 ай бұрын
That last message at the end. About the allergies, I feel that in my soul.
@venomRSplaysMCNV
Жыл бұрын
I can't understand why they would dislike the term Mary Sue cuz it's an accurate representation of overpowered unfairly treated characters in storytelling
@deen7530
Жыл бұрын
The meaning of a Mary Sue has changed a lot over the years. It got its start in fanfiction and was used to refer to original female characters in fanfictions who are perfect and beloved by all the other characters. Over the years, it changed from being used solely for original characters and switched over to being used for any piece of media or storytelling with a female character that was considered too perfect or overpowered. As a result, it's become overused and a lot of people consider it a discredited term.
@BlueTressym
Жыл бұрын
Because the term is frequently *misused* by people applying it to any female character who demonstrates competence or intelligence or even happens to be - gods forbid! - pretty.
@venomRSplaysMCNV
Жыл бұрын
@@BlueTressym there are a Lot of words that are serious and are misused to the point no one takes them Seriously anymore 😔
@BlueTressym
Жыл бұрын
@@venomRSplaysMCNV Indeed, I'm all too aware of that.
@darkjosem13
Жыл бұрын
8:30 pantheon said it best: Every life a jewel. Worth fighting for, worthy dying for
@searchforsecretdoors
Жыл бұрын
Feels like a good reminder that not every group is for everyone. I don't know, she didn't sound that bad to me. I feel like she would be an okay fit at my table. But I'm not easily annoyed by players who want to play a Mary Sue. But also, I had to leave a table that was a great group of players, on paper we all should have been fine. But the kind of game they wanted to run was not the game I wanted to play in. I left on good terms. But I still left. Sometimes that happens.
@IlyTheVampire
Жыл бұрын
I mean, if you're fine with players that are not interested in playing in character and also cheat in combat, she would have been a great fit at your table. Personally, I couldn't stand her.
@searchforsecretdoors
Жыл бұрын
@IlyTheVampire I was thinking about this comment and I realized that my games have mostly been online since Covid. So much stuff is automated, it's hard to cheat. I play at very supportive tables, which further minimizes the urge to cheat. But maybe I'm just having a hard time imagining what she would really be like because I have all good players at my tables.
@IlyTheVampire
Жыл бұрын
@@searchforsecretdoors There are things that you can't get away with online, like cheating on your rolls, of course, but you can keep your spell slots, change your prepared spells... even change your stats, if you're feeling particularly bold. I trust my players, so I don't usually check their sheets during the sessions - I have enough going on already, and I think that, if the DM needs to micromanage and babysit their players to that extent, that's not a table I want to play at. To be completely fair: that group was toxic as all hell, but she's the only player that I actually (strongly) suspect that would regularly cheat.
@AndrewDye-u9e
Ай бұрын
My favorite thing about your videos is the fact that I feel like we’re having a real conversation
@MultiZernez
Жыл бұрын
Love that Rey from Star Wars is becoming the face of the Mary Sue type characters.
@williek08472
Жыл бұрын
Me too!
@reloadpsi
Жыл бұрын
Star Wars is terrible and always has been. I know this because I've heard the fans complain about it for decades.
@Patrickf5087
Жыл бұрын
She is one. And seriously the last movie was bad. Wish Lando was the MC and not the 2 idiots... not to mention they literally made the SW:EU meme of the Emperor being alive a real thing in "cannon"
@reloadpsi
Жыл бұрын
@@Patrickf5087It was already canon that Luke's mother only got married because this dude who was simping for her killed a bunch of children in the desert and that made her go "oh well you're only human let's get randy" but then a few years later he killed a bunch of white kids instead and this time she died of being sad. It's canon that the Empire suddenly fell because a bunch of teddy bears dropped rocks on a few Stormtroopers so somebody could blow up an unfinished base. Remember that time the Romans just consolidated their entire command structure and military in a half-built fortress in uncharted territory and the indigenous population completely wiped them from existence? No because even though that empire fell, no empire is _that_ inept. That's the stupidest storytelling I've ever seen in my life. If you were expecting anything better after that I don't know what to say to you people. You have terrible standards. Star Wars was never good :P
@AlastorNahIdWinRadioDemon
Жыл бұрын
Now hold up, at the start the DM could have been clear and said they didn't want anyone in the game who would play a character that's too morally white.
@skorpiongod
Жыл бұрын
Her being lawfully good to the extreme is way way way down low on the list of problems. The main issue is that the DMs are complete doormats that enable horrible people.
@Patrickf5087
Жыл бұрын
@skorpiongod They were all trying to be her BF not DMs...
@bestaround3323
Жыл бұрын
That isn't a "good" character, it's an idiot. A truly good character would have tried to find the best possible solution to the morally grey problems instead of pawning it off to someone else. They wouldn't use other people as meat sheilds or only care about their image. That character wasn't good, it was evil pretending to be good.
@joshwalton25
Жыл бұрын
For all we know, they did. I had to kick someone from my game just this past week because despite being very clear during session 0 that "stupid isn't a personality, and chaotic stupid behavior isn't tolerated at this table", I had someone roll up a Barbarian who was and did exactly that. Sadly, for every "good" D&D post/discussion there is on Reddit or Facebook these days, theres three more where the majority opinion boils down to "the DM exists for the players, and what they want doesn't matter." I actually got temp banned from a FB group for pointing that out.
@IronLordEXO
Жыл бұрын
@@bestaround3323 THIS.
@coffeekat5066
Жыл бұрын
Okay it's not exactly related to the story, but I gotta say I love the soothing beach ambience this channel has. Just nice to have when hearing about the type of people that crop up in these stories haha.
@l00visa
Жыл бұрын
I just wish people would stop calling any female character they don’t like a Mary-sue. Not that I think critcrab does that. not that I know of, at least.
@kwehknight9001
Жыл бұрын
Oh man, something similar happened in my second ever campaign. the gist of it is that we were about to be flooded with a ton of monsters, so we had to find a way out of a room. We found a vent, and climbed inside. All except for our paladin, who wanted to fight some of the monsters to grind XP. We tried to save him, but he refused. Somehow this guy did not see a single horror movie trope, and was under the impression that only a few monsters would come at a time. Never mind everyone else in the party evacuating immediately.
@briangang3977
Жыл бұрын
Brian gang, rise up and remember to not be full of yourself, and don't ruin the fun for others!
@briancoolbreeze
Жыл бұрын
Can I be in the Brian gang?
@briangang3977
Жыл бұрын
@@briancoolbreeze yes
@briancoolbreeze
Жыл бұрын
@@briangang3977 Very nice
@theviking1359
2 ай бұрын
I’m sure we can all take a wild guess why she was given such leeway
@revan7383
Жыл бұрын
Braaaave man using Rey as a Mary Sue. Could start a ruckus in the comments lol
@CritCrab
Жыл бұрын
It's not a critcrab video without all out warfare in the comments
@MyName-Jeff
Жыл бұрын
I think most people recognize she's a Mary Sue. I fell asleep during the second movie though so I cant be totally sure.
@reloadpsi
Жыл бұрын
Anything relating to Star Wars usually makes me scroll away because the fans over the last 25 years have done nothing but tell me Star Wars is complete garbage (and I agree with them - I was never a fan but the fans really haven't done my opinion of the series any favours) but it's a D&D horror story video by CritCrab so I'll put up with it.
@rustinfox6762
Жыл бұрын
If she would of been doing that intentionally she would of been a brilliant evil character 😂
@DPWFG
Жыл бұрын
Only replies to praise? Simple: Oh wow, Mary, it's neat that you never seem to lose any spell slots.
@Mordring
Жыл бұрын
Sarcasm is the ultimate kryptonite of all narcissists. They're too dumb (AKA self-centered) to recognise it themselves, but everyone else will have the time of their day just witnessing them bask in something that's actually a roast.
@DeeperWithDiego
Жыл бұрын
The trolley problem is easy to solve, no sarcasm. There are no moral choices when you don't have a choice. Whatever you do is the fault of the person who put you in the trolley problem in the first place. Do one or the other as you are not more moral for taking either choice and move on with your life.
@hydragamedev6920
10 ай бұрын
1:28 sponsored segment ends
@PuffyJetsnake
Жыл бұрын
Ive been in a westmarches campaign for three years now and we are about to wrap it up with a pretty bow. I agree that its an endeavor that MUST have multiple experienced DMs on the same wavelength, otherwise its a hot mess
@JackRook
Жыл бұрын
The trolley scenario is dumb. Derail the trolley, and nobody dies (granted that it is never stated that there are people on the trolley)
@khristian625
Жыл бұрын
Derail a trolley. A vehicle 12 tons at minimum.
@JackRook
Жыл бұрын
@@khristian625 yeah, just switched the tracks after the first cart passes the track
@remrad4315
Жыл бұрын
It's dnd there's magic and other stuff. Potions that can make you giant... spells that can make you giant.... spells that can open portals.... or you can just remove the person from the tracks.
@JackRook
Жыл бұрын
@@remrad4315 Or I can use wish to put EVERYONE on the same track and make sure the trolley hits them
@remrad4315
Жыл бұрын
@@JackRook I just burst out laughing holy shit.
@TheClaw47
Жыл бұрын
One of my favorite, and recurring, characters is a 100% goody two-shoes paladin. Now, he tends to be overly optimistic, thinks short term, and generally is a "we're heroes we're supposed to sacrifice ourselves to protect people"...but in that situation, he'd run. Actually, he might intentionally throw himself to the zombies to protect his party members and tell them to save themselves if it looked hopeless enough. He made mistakes and owned them, and I loved shoving him in trolley problem situations because a lot of his reaction depended on if he recognized the trolley problem or not, he had a tendency to do immediate "gratification" (saving people) at the expense of future problems figuring he could deal with those later but this needs solving now.
@shadedias5563
Жыл бұрын
Simple answer, she was dating one of the senior members or is related to them and managed to leech off of that fact during sessions to avoid actual consequences.
@IlyTheVampire
Жыл бұрын
She wasn't.
@BigSepps
Жыл бұрын
As someone is a DM in a in-person West Marches style game with about 200 active players. It is Nightmare difficulty. The hardest part is dealing with the social aspects 100%. Balancing all the different personalities is crazy. It would be impossible without our DM team being as hard working and dedicated. Despite all the unique challenges we are going on 3 years and are still growing and we have some of the coolest players, in-side jokes and stories that can only happen in a huge game. If you find one try it out!
@bronsoncarder2491
9 ай бұрын
When a guy does it: "he's a power player, a minmaxxer. Just let him have his power fantasy." When a girl does it: "it's a sign that she lacks morality."
@IGSA101
Ай бұрын
That last statement is just what an allergy is. Your immune system treats a benign material as if it's a pathogen.
@diegorassetto
Жыл бұрын
Hello Ben, how are you doing?
@CritCrab
Жыл бұрын
I'm doing great! Thank you so much!
@MVR3IWER
Жыл бұрын
There's a trolley rolling down a hill towards someone who tied themselves to the tracks. You can divert the trolley to have it hit you instead.
@swizzamane8775
Жыл бұрын
I had many a session with a Gary Stu. EVERY session we planned 4 weeks in advance, but this selfish brat would ALWAYS call in "sick" at THE last minute. Months later, we learned he done this, because he was an alcoholic. Our sessions were cancelled by the DM because the pathetic drunk a-hole is dms personal friend (and no doubt, mr drunk was the partys Paladin xD)
@PxNxWxGxW
Жыл бұрын
I was at one TT many years ago where the DM def had it out for one player. It was cringe to see and the tension felt horrible. I found out later on it was from some real life shit. That campaign still kinda haunts me to this day.
@naiba8948
Жыл бұрын
Here's my take on Mary Sues. They're just self indulgent characters people make for funsies, to be cringe, or it's their first oc as a kid and they wanna go all out, whatever. In my opinion, they're fine (and should be encouraged in little kids because. come on. how else will they get the feeling that they're powerful other than having a character that everyone loves and is a wolf princess demon angel vampire etc hybrid. and creativity and all that.) except when they are used against other people to actually overpower them. Mary Sues are a fun idea when you're by yourself or with other Mary Sues. Not when you're the only Mary Sue.
@jameswilmshurst6973
6 ай бұрын
I once played in a campaign where the life cleric refused to heal the party and just wanted to keep spamming toll the dead and despite having the highest AC in the party of 18, would hide behind the wizard and rogue in combat
@morrigankasa570
Жыл бұрын
I actually kinda agree with the "Mary Sue" about that 'Forced Moral Dilemma'. DON'T FORCE MORAL DILEMMAS IN A GAME LIKE THIS!!! Certain types of games it can work, such as the "Fable Series" of videogames or the "Dragon Age Series" of videogames. Even various other videogames. But a TTRPG or other collaborative type games outside of videogames, don't be forcing that stuff! Also, I strongly disagree with "Player Character Deaths" in 99.9% of cases!!!
@Alresu
10 ай бұрын
"She was fine. I mean, she was dead, but" is such a TTRPG-phrase...^^
@papadikolov1378
Жыл бұрын
I super reaction'd the letters for the word CUM in the discord server :)
@papadikolov1378
Жыл бұрын
yall should join it
@CritCrab
Жыл бұрын
>:c
@cainakubiaki
Жыл бұрын
One of the DMs wants to get in Marry Sue pants.
@matiasnl
Жыл бұрын
Bro… Rey in the thumbnail pic? Really?
@StSubZero
11 ай бұрын
I suspect some of the DMs "managing" Mary Sue were quietly simping or owed her a favor here or there. No one would tolerate that kind of behavior otherwise.
@andyenglish4303
Жыл бұрын
...Can we not use Rey as the thumbnail for a video about a mary sue, that just feeds into the toxic fandom drama.
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