“I MADE A MISTAKE!” Damn, to hear Mordin of all people say that…and in a full sentence
@gerovit
Ай бұрын
I MADE HIM A STEAK!
@MrGemHunter
2 жыл бұрын
I love how a version of "had to be me, someone else would have gotten it wrong" is incorporated into every version of this scene.
@stlegion-mz2ss
6 ай бұрын
I never like the renegade options.....it hurts to see them play out, I try to be as good as I can
@phenompy
2 жыл бұрын
Honestly, in the story writing sense, this is so much better than the paragon "I'm Sorry" "I'm not" exchange.
@_MaZTeR_
3 жыл бұрын
I love how Shepard throws the gun away, so glad they added that
@stormsand9
3 жыл бұрын
Was looking for this. Very powerful to me. Shepard doesn't reveal the sabotage to anyone, but Mordin figures it out at the last second. The only way to stop the genophage now is to kill Mordin- But Shepard can't do that. As the elevator goes up Shepard bows his head- wondering if he made the right choice not shooting Mordin because he might have needed the Salarian support. And the nod from Mordin to Shepard before the elevator goes up- Shepard threatened to kill Mordin but he couldn't do it, and Mordin thanks Shepard with that nod for not denying his chance to right his wrongs.
@SkyeFyre2131
3 жыл бұрын
I don't know why, but something about the way Shepard walks away before the lift is halfway up, throwing the gun, makes it different from the Paragon playout.
@IsRickIV
3 жыл бұрын
@@SkyeFyre2131 I see what you mean. That Gun was a gift from Mordin. I interpret it as he felt disgusted by what he almost did, and believed he no longer deserved it for lying to and very nearly killing his friend and of coarse attempted to doom an entire race to extinction.
@christopherhall5361
2 жыл бұрын
I think Shepard is throwing his gun away as if to say "I betrayed a friend." Because you have to make a lot of paragon choices to get to this point, almost an entire paragon playthrough up to the point it comes time to reveal the sabotage. Saving Wrex in the first game and saving the data thus saving Eve, only to have an attempt at deception to get Salarian support discovered by the one person he knew could figure it out, then being tempted to shoot him in the back. It's probably the kind of reaction I would have if I realized years of bloodshed working towards a goal was about to undone by my own hands.
@coffeeveins
Жыл бұрын
There’s a great scene after this on the ship where Shepard is lamenting the pressure the reapers are putting on him to succeed somehow, and how he can’t believe he pulled a gun on a friend, and how close he came and generally how mixed up he is about what the right thing to do is. It’s such a nice touch because you only see it if you came this close but backed down at the last moment.
@pugtie4695
10 ай бұрын
I actually agree see I normally did Paragon whole way through but this was a good way to show even the perfect Shepard is starting to crack he doesn't know right from wrong anymore and is growing more desperate but he won't shoot a friend no matter what.
@andrewmeredith15
3 жыл бұрын
The slight nod by mordin was all he needed to say and despite how mordin might seem he's grateful, and shepherd throwing the gun away showing his own disgust that he would even think about pointing it at his friend makes me think this is the best scene with mordin ending
@efxnews4776
Жыл бұрын
Problem is that if you kill him you also would have to kill Wrex later...
@BarelloSmith
4 ай бұрын
I think him throwing the gun away means something different in this context. After all, it was the gun Mordin gave him. To me it seemed more like he was frustrated with Mordin.
@naifabdullah3465
4 ай бұрын
@@BarelloSmith true
@Darkmage1293
10 ай бұрын
Man, imagine all that and then having Wrex be buddy-buddy afterward. Shepard must feel like the worst bastard alive, about to betray two friends, about to MURDER one....and they both sing your praises, not knowing you had a backroom dealing with the Dalatrass. I'm surprised he didn't confess afterward, would've been a nice touch if you failed to answer them twice before to have the option.
@mattdylla3225
10 ай бұрын
The most perfect version of this scene. Hit all the most powerful versions of every shot. -"I made a mistake! " -shepard chucking the gun -Mordin's swan song It's all here!
@CrossCountrygamerRH1
Жыл бұрын
2:33 I think at this moment, Shepard was extremely disgusted and horrified with himself for even considering gunning down a great friend with the very firearm that that same friend gave to him, and for that very reason, felt as if he no longer deserved it
@Xpwnxage
9 ай бұрын
You throw it even if you do fire too. It works in both cases.
@s-094cam5
3 жыл бұрын
This is exactly how my Shepherd plays go. They're feeling the pressure. They know they should stop Mordin no matter what. But it'd mean killing a friend and betraying another and that's something they can't do despite themselves.
@thesixthkid7689
3 жыл бұрын
Killing Mordin I'm perfectly fine with mainly because he invented the genophage and for me THAT should be his legacy. Only 2 reasons I spared him is because he cures the genophage and the 2nd, you stated it, I can't betray Wrex. Why do I favor Wrex over Mordin? Mordin absolutely fucked the entire Krogan race, even those who didn't deserve it, and constantly said it was justified. Wrex wants to rebuild the Krogan but keep hostilities out.
@trujilojilo4887
3 жыл бұрын
@@thesixthkid7689 I MADE A MISTAKE that line says all because he admits is wrong about the krogans
@thesixthkid7689
3 жыл бұрын
@@trujilojilo4887 it was a pretty obvious mistake, even if it happened literally a million years ago yet Mordin is pretty damn smart, probably the smartest in the party and at the time thought it was right? C'mon man.
@tyler-hp7oq
3 жыл бұрын
@@thesixthkid7689 he didn't invent the genophage. He modified it because the krogan were starting to build an immunity to it after 1000 years.
@thesixthkid7689
3 жыл бұрын
@@tyler-hp7oq better him than Padok Wiks so I won't let him die in the Suicide Mission. Most Salarians thought it was good for Krogan, if the Genophage was dropped on them specifically for Salarians guaranteed they'd change their mind.
@fionnbarrcasey5247
3 жыл бұрын
I love Mordin. Such a well fleshed out character. ME2 he near flawlessly defends his logic behind the genophage. Yet the events of ME3 and this scene show how clearly it has always haunted him
@RangerJackWalker
4 жыл бұрын
By far the best version of the scene.
@Oradone
4 жыл бұрын
Totally. I love the build up and suspense right up to the end.
@RangerJackWalker
4 жыл бұрын
@@Oradone I know right? I didn’t care for the full paragon version where it’s all happy-go-lucky. But in this, it feels Shepard puts some serious thoughts in both the possibility of a future Krogan uprising and also the desperate desire for aid that the Salarians could provide. But ultimately deciding to let that glimmer of hope for a better future prevail.
@rockymckay1705
3 жыл бұрын
Almost. Slightly better when Shepard explains the sabotage but then still does the rest IMO.
@TheDancerMacabre
3 жыл бұрын
I think it's best when you don't pull the gun on him You get all three of Mordin's best lines "I made a mistake!" "Had to be me" with that slight smile in his voice, and the humming to himself as he's holding back tears.
@rockymckay1705
3 жыл бұрын
@@TheDancerMacabre you can get all those lines if you do pull the gun on him too, if you do it right
@stephenb3104
3 жыл бұрын
Anyone note shepards gun is the same as the one mordin gave him on omega?
@tylersheehan-ford4047
3 жыл бұрын
:'(
@BartlebysCorpse
2 жыл бұрын
Not the only gun related callback. In the confrontation with The Illusive Man, TIM holds the same model Saren did on the Citadel, with Shepard holding the same model from that scene as well (the gun actually changes early in the ME1 scene, so it's easy to miss).
@buddabudda
Жыл бұрын
Nice to find this scenario. This is very close to how my original 'Paragon, But Basically Just Playing Myself' version went. One of the most genuine, real-feeling moments in the whole trilogy for me. I couldn't come to terms with curing the geophage with no real solutions on how to avoid repeating history, but there was just no way I could bring myself to shoot Mordin in the back.
@aca347
Жыл бұрын
I love Mordin and Wrex but when you think about all the lore the writers made for this game an eventual Krogan war seems unavoidable. You got an entire race of fast-breeding warlike violent psychos, and only one pragmatic warlord who knows eternal war doesn't work for anyone and a peace-minded female clan leader to hold the entire species back. A character like Shep probably can work this out as well. So the most "realistically" paragon storyline for this scene would be "shep decides to betray the krogan to prevent a future war with Krogan and secure Salarian aid, but can't bring himself to be so treacherous". Shep being totally on board with all this just seems too idealistic.
@benjaminberkel6935
11 ай бұрын
If anyone in the future creates a mass effect movie: Please let this be the canon ending. Shepard hunted by his nightmare desperate to save Earth at all cost. But in the last moment he reawakens his paragorn side again. He realised that a universe build on betraying friends and comrades isn't worth saving and underminieng his ideals. Mordin's Story doesn't feel complete until he admits that he made a mistake....
@SioxerNikita
10 ай бұрын
Noone in the future should make a Mass Effect movie based on Shepard. It will ruin it for too many.
@reconbravo104
2 ай бұрын
I think a renegade Shepard would WANT to do it but finds that he physically does not have it in him to pull the trigger. He finds that his position of "sacrifice anything for our survival" is untenable, that he would rather they all die than betray Mordin.
@kblargh
Жыл бұрын
The 5% that mattered.
@caydehunter3360
2 ай бұрын
If he went that far, he should've take the shot
@basedbattledroid3507
Жыл бұрын
The cutscenes in mass effect are definitely much better when they're a mixture of paragon and renegade
@rockymckay1705
3 жыл бұрын
This is almost the best version of the scene. Slightly better if you explain sabatoge to mordin then still try and stop him then threaten to shoot then decide not to.
@Oradone
3 жыл бұрын
Ah yes. It's all about the mind games. 😏
@rockymckay1705
3 жыл бұрын
@@Oradone it’s just more dramatic and the tension is high. It’s exactly what would happen in a show/movie
@KritoSkywaker
4 жыл бұрын
If I would play as Renegade Shepard, I would never kill Mordin.
@gabematthews4532
6 ай бұрын
What about Wiks?
@KritoSkywaker
6 ай бұрын
@@gabematthews4532 Same there. Wiks wants to cure the Genophage much as Mordin want to.
@one-wingedangel5107
3 күн бұрын
You should give it a try, hooligan Shepard was fun but ME3 turned him into a war criminal
@KritoSkywaker
3 күн бұрын
@@one-wingedangel5107 I managed to do a Renegon FemShep on my own pace. 😊
@Dani-xz1uw
2 жыл бұрын
Fantastic outcome. Shepard having doubts until the very last moment should be cannon in case of an adaptation imo
@Gragel_Fragel
6 ай бұрын
I think that if they decided to do ME adaption they will most likely do paragon but when they get to me3 Shepard would/should start becoming more renegade thinking he has no other option then to throw his morales out the window to save the galaxy but then he gets to this moment where in the end he can’t bring himself to be the renegade and shoot mordin which will also help influence him in the quarian and geth conflict where thinking of mordin and wants to give the geth there future and save the quarians
@christianholbrook2686
3 жыл бұрын
This scene is honestly even better if you destroy Maelon's data and eve dies, since the funeral scene with her is beautiful and Shepard and Wrex bury the hatchet.
@buddabudda
Жыл бұрын
That will always been canon for me.
@sourmeat7982
Жыл бұрын
This is the best version of the scene. Mordin finally admits to both himself and Shepard that what he did was wrong. It's a shame most players will never see it.
@Vanderyn
3 ай бұрын
What always breaks me is the nod. Mordin gets it. He created the genophage, he understands the weight of cruel decisions. He isn't even mad at Shep, he respects his decision and understands his situation.
@TreeckoBro
Жыл бұрын
1:49 That is some fine storytelling.
@tylertheultimatebadass87
2 жыл бұрын
"You're a better soul than I, mordin"
@MRbug_423
7 ай бұрын
This whole scene really is a testament of good storytelling and choice decisions. Not telling or warning Mordin of sabotage only for him to figure it out himself and putting you in the decision to either kill him or let him cure the Genophage. And him finally admitting he yearned for curing the Krogan
@wolfeusmc2011
Жыл бұрын
I love this version when you balance paragon renegade.....just the start of Mordin....'you're not going up' is very cold and intimidating and then trying to talk Mordin out of it and it escalates and yet at the end Shep just can't do it.
@youraverageinternetperson4323
3 жыл бұрын
This is as far as I can go in regards to sabotaging the cure. I love Mordin and Wrex too much to kill them, even if it's just a video game lol. Guess I'm a big softie. What made this even better was that Mordin was one of the three people my Shepard saw as she activated the Crucible (Anderson and Thane were the others.) I love how Mordin nods at Shepard both in this scene and during the Crucible vision.
@jeremygilbert7989
2 жыл бұрын
It's possible to, technically, avoid killing them both and still sabotage the Genophage. If you just let Ashley kill Wrex on Noveria you don't have to deal with the guilt there and as long as you destroy Maelon's data in ME2 you can convince Mordin that with an unchecked Wreav as their leader the Genophage is still the best option for dealing with the Krogan. He relents and even becomes a war asset and since Wreav is too dumb to notice you still get the Krogan aid. It's deplorable but it can be done. That's how I finished my one, and only, renegade Shepard run.
@one-wingedangel5107
Жыл бұрын
If you saved Wrex in ME1, your only course of action should be curing the genophage, destroying the cure would only lead Wrex to a painful death.
@lucaswest5078
Жыл бұрын
If I commit to not curing the genophage all the way up to deciding to not shoot mordin (so exactly like this video plays out), will wrex confront me on the citadel with his recording of shep or will everything pan out alright with wrex?
@Kashlikaro
10 ай бұрын
@@lucaswest5078 As long as the genophage works, Wrex won't go digging. Or he did, and figured that you double-crossed the Salarians.
@TheBlackKakashi
Жыл бұрын
Thanks for this. Now I can experience the betray scene and still cure the genophage
@GFTW1
3 жыл бұрын
I MADE HIM A STEAK!
@DrDze
3 жыл бұрын
I want to laugh now instead of being sad watching this... Why did you have to post this comment and why the f have I read it?!))
@prismanic24
3 жыл бұрын
I f*cking love steak
@_MaZTeR_
3 жыл бұрын
@@prismanic24 Steak, Liara. I think about when there's a lot of steak.
@wolfeusmc2011
Жыл бұрын
Shepard I'm a reaper doomsday device
@smnoy23
4 ай бұрын
It was such a smart idea of them to frame the Renegade interrupt like that. "You're willing to kill Mordin over this? Ok, let's see you do it."
@SuperDora150
9 ай бұрын
Just found this and thank you so much for sharing it. It hits so hard. I only saw the full sabotage or cure success, never this mixture.
@thecollectivegamer3600
3 жыл бұрын
Mordin: Krogan free...promising future...for all of us...
@omz3848
3 ай бұрын
It's almost 12 years since ME3 came out and that "I MADE A MISTAKE" hits just as hard. Not to mention, I've still only had the heart to experience this moment via KZitem clips (i.e. the shooting that happens after). Never could play the renegade route (perhaps if Wrex wasn't in the picture, this wouldn't be required then)
@EloquentTroll
Жыл бұрын
I'm one those naturally friendly people who pick of the positive moral choices because I really don't like being cruel or deceitful, my power fantasy is about having the power to help people, though it doesn't keep from occasionally making a fitting Renegade option, sometimes you have to take out the trash. Thank you for posting this because I was never going to see this in game, playing an absolute bag of dicks Shepherd ruins the entire game for me
@litmus7325
Ай бұрын
This has got to be how they wanted the ending to playout. The music blending is ONLY smooth here
@BarelloSmith
4 ай бұрын
I would love if there was a mod that would give you this outcome and the additional possibility - if Shepard lowers their gun - to get the sea shell dialogue and the "I'm sorry" from Shepard.
@trevorb1898
3 жыл бұрын
Awww you didn’t get the extra line of dialogue with Eve if you talked to her in the medbay
@thecollectivegamer3600
3 жыл бұрын
Perfect renegade playthru!
@crusadernikolai1996
Жыл бұрын
Damn man I played full paragon but the mix with renegade sometimes makes for some good drama I admit
@greyd.99xsome
2 ай бұрын
Renegade Dialogue, Paragon decision. Perfect.
@vrinnmetagen
Жыл бұрын
shepard would have shot mordin with the gun mordin gave him in ME2. fucking blew my mind
@supervegito2277
Жыл бұрын
Ive heard that if you chose the paragon option in the first scene here, Shepard can tell Mordin that he isnt sure he/she trust the Krogan but DO trust Mordin. Might try this on my next playthrough, i wanna see that scene, and it doesnt prevent the Good ending either (like this one dont)
@BarelloSmith
4 ай бұрын
I love the fact, that the cutscene after Mordin's death is different too in this scenario. Wrex seems to be way more appreciative of Mordin than in the paragon scenario, which he should! After all, it was Mordin who sacrificed his life for the cure, not Shepard.
@somevideos269
6 күн бұрын
Perfect scene! But I [Explain sabotage].
@adamzak6055
Ай бұрын
I wanted to see this version of the ending where Shepard aims the gun at Mordin, but doesn't shoot him. Thanks
@newbiegain117
3 жыл бұрын
I play both rene and para, it should feel nature to who you are :)
@turtlegod98
Ай бұрын
Does this scenario effect Wrex in anyway?
@gabematthews4532
5 ай бұрын
I honestly had no idea you could ignore that interrupt
@knightsotl796
5 жыл бұрын
Question .... Does wrex still confront you?
@Oradone
5 жыл бұрын
If you pull that Trigger, then yes. 🔫
@idonthavh1n166
3 жыл бұрын
@@Oradone This always seemed like a plot hole to me. If you don't tell Wrex that the dalatrass offered salarian support to Shepard in exchange for him saboting the cure, and then proceed to kill Mordin, Wrex finds out that you sabotaged the cure by intercepting the message. But if you do what you did here, where you don't tell Wrex about the sabotage, but don't kill Mordin, the circumstances are no different. Wrex could still intercept the message and think Shepard sabotaged the cure. Or am I missing something?
@ignacio4159
3 жыл бұрын
@@idonthavh1n166 wrex probably intercepts the message anyway, but the genophage was indeed cured, so there may already be an increase of births or any other evidence that makes wrex conclude shepard didn't mention it (probably to not make things more tense between the krogan and salarians) but simply didn't go along with the salarian plan.
@fumeknightofshovelry3901
3 жыл бұрын
@@ignacio4159 Wrex mentions an "unborn son" if he finds out about the sabotage so I would assume his unborn child miscarried if the genophage was not cured, but since Eve is successfully carrying the pregnancy he knows it was cured.
@anthonyrodriguez8788
6 ай бұрын
@@idonthavh1n166Wreav mentions that the females are having trouble giving birth if you trick him into thinking the genophage is cured. Wrex unlike Wreav is smart enough to come to the conclusion that Shepard lied to him after seeing the first still born Krogan post "cure"
@ledelste
14 күн бұрын
That 5% counts
@doncore1163
2 жыл бұрын
Perfect
@rogerm4a1
Жыл бұрын
I shot him, I didn’t want to but the future of the galaxy after the reapers was more important. Tough choice but one that needed to be made.
@efxnews4776
Жыл бұрын
The level of dificulty in this game isn't tied to the enemies or gameplay, is tied to the story, play as Paragon is pretty easy, but play as Renegade is incredibly hard man...
@onetailedjin
2 жыл бұрын
DAMN
@bananadragonfromjupiter
9 ай бұрын
He made him a stake?
@LDRTrejo
10 ай бұрын
I remember reading that Mordin was intended to be somewhat looked at as a genuinely evil character, they wanted him to be the guy who made the genophage but obviously can’t work within lore, so they made him the guy who made essentially the second genophage and felt he was completely justified and reasonable. And you can as Shepard throughout ME2 sway him to consider, maybe it wasn’t right for him to decide the fate of an entire sentient race. And by 3, you can see how it fucked him up, and that “I made a mistake” was 2 games worth of build up. He wants to repent essentially, he even says in 2 he doesn’t have much time left, he wants to spend it giving his all to the galaxy. And if he you let him, he does. 🥹 truly a touching turnaround
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