love how you stand there and talk!!! ABSOLUTLY zero shooting
@waltkerbel7103
9 жыл бұрын
I shot this bow yesterday. Very nice smooth shooting bow. I'm a Martin person but after shooting this bow I might be making a switch.
@bulletsandbroadheads
9 жыл бұрын
Might be my next bow
@fadzleya.rahman7956
8 жыл бұрын
No cam is so deceptive lol. This bow still has a cam. If you noticed, the inner wheel is eccentric. This is actually a normal dual cam bow with small cam and more rigid limb.
@BossNotes
6 жыл бұрын
That ol buck at 10 yards was like , man that's one sweet bow you have , but damn bro , OT camo ? Really bro. I was givin it to my doe friend 2 weeks ago , she said you had a nice bow , all them there pretty little green and red kinda glow in the dark looking thingys on it , and even had this long thingy on the front if it , kinda like that thingy you putting in me now . Any body seen grandpas ? He's been missin for 2 weeks now . Anyway he coulda had me at MEAH .!!!!
@stevefloresappalachianrang4000
9 жыл бұрын
Its an HHA sight with a modified, extension. They now make a sight with an extension. King Pin? I think
@vico.2514
8 жыл бұрын
Oh thats right! So he has the sports king pin I presume. I bought me the ultra lite 5000. Still nice but want the extension. I may have to do some research.
@DominoEffect15
9 жыл бұрын
Just FYI the IBO is 331 with 85% let off that doesn't mean it's going to actually shoot 331 fps with any specific set up. I just shot this bow last night at my local shop and it was 29" draw (I'm a 30") at 73lbs and we still only hit 285 on the chrono. Don't get me wrong that's plenty enough to kill a deer no doubt but just wanted to make everyone aware that you won't be able to get 330 fps out of this bow. My Chill R IBO is 342 and with 85% let off 30" draw at 73lbs. With the 80% let off mods I hit 332 fps. So with the 75% mods I'm sure it may get close to the IBO but I'm also shooting 75 grain broadheads. I'm still up in the air on the new no cam bows but if they harvest deer that's all that matters. Good luck, aim small miss small
@shaneberkness2124
9 жыл бұрын
No Cam IBO ratings 85% let off 321 IBO, 75% let off 326 IBO, 65% let off 330 IBO. You will get 330 fps at 30" draw length, 70lb draw weight and 350 grain arrow. Every No Cam at a archery shop comes standard with the 85% mod because that will be what most people would use anyway because it's the most comfortable, I would change it to a 75% mod just because 70lb draw weight gaining 4lb at full draw is not a big deal for me and I'm gaining 5 fps.
@justing6909
9 жыл бұрын
Shane is right. The IBO rule is 5 grains of arrow weight per pound of draw. So that equals out to a 350 grain arrow, which is pretty light. Most common arrows (with the common 100 grain head) will be around 400 grains.
@Mathewsman11
9 жыл бұрын
What kinda hha sight is that? I'd be interested in getting one with a long rail like that thanks. Btw great review
@isakkane97
9 жыл бұрын
what is the extension bracket you have for the HHA sight?? ive been looking for something like that.
@johnwalter6410
3 жыл бұрын
The term "no cam" is misleading. It actually is a cam. Just a round one. The axle hole is offset. That's what gives it the wall and let off. I've shot one before and it was the smoothest bow I've ever shot. The arrow would simply disappear. You can't even feel it leave the bow. The string stop is horrific looking though.
@vico.2514
8 жыл бұрын
WHERE DID YOU GET THE SIGHT EXTENSION FOR YOUR HHA SIGHT? I have the same sight and am looking for an extension!
@triplez300
8 жыл бұрын
How do you change the cable on this bow ? Do you need to remove the cable attachment wheel to replace a new cable sets ? Thanks.
@andrewelmer9266
5 жыл бұрын
Lmfao. I'm no engineer. I'd say. The Bush cables run the opposite limb on either side. That's how it works. It's just like a dual cam without single cam style control cable
@ericcampbell6572
3 ай бұрын
Hey bud u still have this bow I'd love to have one would you be willing to trade for a pse performance x 3d
@manoloramirez6456
7 жыл бұрын
as is called the stabilizer that you use
@icemaniscoming
9 жыл бұрын
Go shoot one! Amazing!! Ordered mine last week
@snapcrack55
9 жыл бұрын
Wow. Um, It still has a cam action. Because if the offset/eccentric motion of the center hub. That's how it creates the let off.
@Honeygooyumy69
9 жыл бұрын
My thoughts exactly ...but people new to bowhunting will know no better and those fan boys will just be drooling but at least it is still archery ") Hunt hard, Hunt smart, Hunt noble ...kiwininja - Aotearoa (Land of the long white cloud) New Zealand
@Palpac
9 жыл бұрын
I shoot a Mathews, but yeah from what I can see it's just round cams, as you said the module is still offset.
@Alpine3d33
9 жыл бұрын
Yes what model hha is that
@xxHydroponicxx
9 жыл бұрын
Can I pls ask; without the cams does that mean that all weight of the pull must be held prior to the shot the same as a recurve?
@baileycrowe619
9 жыл бұрын
No, this bow still has let off. 80% I think but I could be wrong
@baileycrowe619
9 жыл бұрын
just looked it up, you can get it with 65%, 75%, or 85%
@xxHydroponicxx
9 жыл бұрын
+Bailey Crowe hey thx for the quick reply Bailey! I'm already saving for the trg9!!!
@chancephillips4525
9 жыл бұрын
Guys you can order any hha that is just an extension bar for target
@tommytorence5557
8 жыл бұрын
Can you please find a link to one and reply to this comment with it I'm really trying to find one
@kerrypinkstaff5648
5 жыл бұрын
Yep not an engineer........
@joepoulson9398
9 жыл бұрын
Thats still a cam... There would be no let-off with just a wheel.
@insanecbrotha
9 жыл бұрын
Wheel-shaped cams... so what?!?!??
@Palpac
9 жыл бұрын
Yeah they may be round but the module is still offset, so it won't roll around on center like he thinks saying it's just like a recurve with wheels on the end, have heard that the Chill R is actually nicer to draw
@claymontg
7 жыл бұрын
This have off-set idler wheels that still gives the let-off at full draw.
@collinwilliams9510
9 жыл бұрын
Ugliest bow I've seen
@bowhunt9968
4 жыл бұрын
Wow.........you couldn't be more wrong
@Yettyhunter
9 жыл бұрын
If you think this is a great bow. You're more lost than their camo.
@justing6909
9 жыл бұрын
What's your problem with this bow? I've been shooting for a long time, and this is one of the smoothest bows I have ever shot.
@Yettyhunter
9 жыл бұрын
justin g I don't have an issue with the bow at all. I don't think there is a bad high end bow made today. However, do have a problem with the company which makes the bow. Mathews is by far the most dishonest bow manufacturer in the industry. For example: Mathews prints the speed of the No Cam at an "up to" speed, writes "approximate" next to the listed bow weight, has printed posters that have hung in pro shops about how two cam bows (The No Cam is a two cam bow) are a "thing of the past", talked about how split limb bows are inferior (remember thin is in), claims to have invented solo cam bows, and constantly says ridiculous things like "the most accurate bow ever built". I know it can be hard to take emotion out of it because people get so attached to the brand of bow they own and defend it without a leg to stand one. But if you forget about the name printed on the bow and look at just the FACTS, what I said is all 100% true. If Mathews listed the speed of their bow at 330 ATA speed they'd most likely get sued. ATA is a specific measurement. When you toss in the words "up to" that is enough for them to avoid a law suit. But Mathews knows lots of people care about performance, so they list their bow as a high performing bow even though it's ATA speed is far slower. Mathews knows you want a light weight bow, so they list the bow with the word approximate next to its weight. I haven't weighed the bow itself but I have weighted a Z7 in the past which was listed at 3.97**. Why the two **? Great question. The bow that I weighted was almost 4.5lbs. Bottom line is they know most people want a lightweight bow so they mislead people into thinking it's lighter than it really is. Solo cam bows were made before Mathews was even around. Mathews did however patent solo cam. Patent and invent are two totally different things. But they sure take credit for the idea! They trashed split limb bows and dual cam bows in the past and now they're making them. "Catch us if you can". Really? I could go on but this has already gotten long enough! Bottom line is I'm not a fan of people who lie to me. The same hold true for manufacturers. And for this reason, I do have a problem with Mathews.
@justing6909
9 жыл бұрын
Yettyhunter for the record I don't have emotions put into this argument. I work part time at Robinsons Archery in Tucson AZ, and have sold/ shot all the major bows. You are right, they do have different marketing techniques. That aside, they have, by far (I'm talking leaps and bounds) the best warranty. They stand behind their product. Trying to get any other company to pay for a repair is a nightmare. I call up Mathews and they fix it, even when it isn't the fault of the bow. One example is, we had a guy run his bow over, they sent him a new one. They are also the only company to keep the molds of the bows they make. This means when someone comes in with a switchback, that was made in 05, I can still get parts. Any other company would laugh if I told them I needed parts for a 10 year old bow. They are the only one with a true lifetime warranty. So yes I do agree their marketing is somewhat funny, but once you get past the surface they are a great company.
@Yettyhunter
9 жыл бұрын
justin g You're spot on about their warranty. It is great. Elite has a lifetime transferable warranty which is also very good. And you're also correct that lifetime doesn't always mean lifetime but with Mathews it pretty much does. However, I'm the kind of customer who buys a new bow about once every 3 to 5 years. Because of that, I'm not buying a bow based off warranty. The fact that Mathews has in the past sent a new bow to a guy who ran it over with his truck is incredible. Good for hat guy! But personally, I know the odds of that happening to me are almost zero. Therefore, that would not be a reason for me to buy a Mathews. I buy a new bow based off fit, feel, quality and performance. Like they said in the movie Tommy Boy, "If you want me to take a dumb in a box and stamp is guaranteed I will, I have spare time" (I don't think Mathews is a dumb in a box either). Based off fit, feel, quality and performance I am of the opinion Mathews is no longer a leader in the archery industry.
@justing6909
9 жыл бұрын
Yettyhunter as far as the one guy getting a bow, it was only an example. I have personally seen it happen many of times. I have a dry fire at least once a month that they fix, free. I understand the fit and performance though. You need to shoot the bow that feels best for you.
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